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| vindolin | is someone here using loggerhead? | 08:34 |
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| poolie | vindolin, yes, but right now i have to go | 08:36 |
| poolie | might be best if you ask on the list | 08:36 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i'm using bzr builddeb and just tracking debian/. should i keep debian versioned, or a directory above debian? (eg, bar/debian , where bar has the .bzr in it) | 08:57 |
| mgz | morning all | 09:06 |
| jelmer | hi mgz | 09:22 |
| jelmer | Kamping_Kaiser: hi | 09:34 |
| jelmer | Kamping_Kaiser: you should keep debian/ versioned | 09:34 |
| poolie | jelmer, mgz, hi? | 10:33 |
| mgz | hey poolie | 10:33 |
| jelmer | hi poolie | 10:34 |
| poolie | oops | 10:38 |
| poolie | will help if i talk in a channel that has you in it | 10:38 |
| poolie | mgz, jelmer, how about a mumble? | 10:38 |
| poolie | or hangout or whatever | 10:38 |
| mgz | mumble works for me | 10:38 |
| jelmer | sure, one sec | 10:39 |
| === mgz changed the topic of #bzr to: Bazaar version control <http://bazaar.canonical.com> | try https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr for more help | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Patch pilot: gz | ||
| mgz | jelmer: what's the status of your two approved-but-yet-to-land branches? | 12:35 |
| mgz | ...I can never remember which two of shelve/unshelve --destroy/--delete match up | 12:38 |
| mgz | they should just use the same switch | 12:38 |
| jelmer | yeah | 12:39 |
| jelmer | mgz: there was a test failure or two, I should bump them back to in progress I think | 12:39 |
| jelmer | the downstairs neighbours have been noisly redecorating for the past couple of hours, I'm going to find a better place to work | 12:54 |
| mgz | I've got room here! | 12:58 |
| mgz | it's just a short swim away... | 12:58 |
| mgz | okay, upgrading cythong fixed the importing of static_tuple, but broke the version parsing thing in setup.py again... | 13:00 |
| jelmer | heh | 13:01 |
| jelmer | not sure if that's worth the effort, considering the ferry already takes 5 hours or so :) | 13:01 |
| jelmer | mgz: urgh :( | 13:01 |
| mgz | they now like the form '0.16.beta0' | 13:03 |
| sladen | I'm puzzled: https://code.launchpad.net/~sladen/unity-2d/unity-2d-no-glow-lp933578 (Diff) shows "=== renamed file 'shell/launcher/artwork/launcher_pip_ltr.png' => 'shell/launcher/artwork/launcher_pip_ltr.png.OTHER'" | 14:06 |
| sladen | but find -name \*.OTHER doesn't find such a file | 14:07 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 14:08 |
| ahasenack | hi guys, where can I find a 2.5b6 build for ubuntu? The beta ppa only has beta2 | 14:23 |
| ahasenack | I'm being hit by this bug in beta5, which is in precise: #917733 | 14:25 |
| jelmer | ahasenack: 2.5 should be in precise now | 14:26 |
| ahasenack | jelmer: 2.5 final? | 14:26 |
| ahasenack | jelmer: cool, let me try that, didn't see it | 14:27 |
| ahasenack | jelmer: nice, it's working now, thanks | 14:28 |
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| jelmer | great | 14:38 |
| mgz | darn it, would notice problem just after merging everything up | 15:02 |
| mgz | ah well, should have tested again with the cython problem fixed before merging, could see it was causing failures | 15:05 |
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| === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck | ||
| DBO | where can I get bzrlib api docs? | 19:13 |
| DBO | doh, nevermind | 19:13 |
| DBO | related comment: | 19:13 |
| DBO | http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.2.4/developers/ | 19:13 |
| DBO | the bzrlib api docs link there is busted | 19:14 |
| jelmer | DBO: hi | 19:23 |
| jelmer | DBO: thanks for the hint | 19:23 |
| jelmer | mwhudson: hi | 19:23 |
| jelmer | mwhudson: http://starship.python.net/crew/mwh/bzrlibapi/ seems b0rked | 19:23 |
| DBO | jelmer, if Im writing a plugin to a text editor to make it support bzr | 19:28 |
| DBO | is it best to use bzrlib | 19:28 |
| DBO | or to just call out to the bzr binaries? | 19:28 |
| jelmer | DBO: if the plugin is in python then the best thing is indeed to use bzrlib directly | 19:28 |
| jelmer | if not then there are perhaps other things that may work better | 19:28 |
| jelmer | there is a fair bit of overhead in invoking the bzr binary directly (because of starting python, importing all modules, etc) so you probably don't want to do that, at least in a naive manner | 19:29 |
| DBO | jelmer, are there good examples of doing simple things with bzr lib? | 19:30 |
| DBO | (and yeah, the plugin is in python, so bzrlib should be easy enough to use) | 19:30 |
| jelmer | DBO: hmm, that's a good question | 19:31 |
| jelmer | DBO: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.dev/developers/ that you linked to is a good place to start | 19:31 |
| jelmer | most of the existing trivial plugins are also good for inspiration | 19:32 |
| jelmer | "from bzrlib.branch import Branch; b = Branch.open('/some/url'); print b.last_revision_info()" | 19:32 |
| DBO | jelmer, yeah I am getting along now, is there really a need to do the initialize call? | 19:42 |
| DBO | it seems to work without | 19:42 |
| DBO | meh no big deal actually, just will do it anyhow | 19:44 |
| jelmer | DBO: it's not strictly necessary at the moment but might become necessary i nthe future | 19:49 |
| DBO | jelmer, okay will just do it | 19:50 |
| DBO | jelmer, let me know if you mind the stupid questions, Im not a python guru :) | 19:50 |
| jelmer | DBO: no problem at all :) | 19:53 |
| DBO | jelmer, is there any way I can tell python where to look for some other packages, it seems this application ships a complete version of python with it... | 20:02 |
| DBO | (so the plugin cant find bzrlib) | 20:03 |
| thumper | DBO: really? | 20:03 |
| jelmer | DBO: you can modify sys.path (which is a list) to include other locations it should look in | 20:03 |
| DBO | jelmer, like this: sys.path = sys.path + ["/usr/lib/python2.7"]? | 20:05 |
| DBO | thumper, yeah | 20:05 |
| jelmer | DBO: yep, something like that (or sys.path.append(...)) | 20:05 |
| DBO | oooo append duh | 20:05 |
| DBO | hmmm | 20:06 |
| DBO | doesn't seem to work | 20:06 |
| DBO | jelmer, sorry... | 20:08 |
| DBO | sys.path = sys.path.append("/usr/lib/python2.7") | 20:08 |
| DBO | AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'append' | 20:08 |
| DBO | Im guessing that the sys hes shipping doesn't work right? | 20:09 |
| LarstiQ | DBO: append works inplace | 20:13 |
| LarstiQ | DBO: and returns None | 20:13 |
| DBO | LarstiQ, ah | 20:13 |
| LarstiQ | DBO: so just do sys.path.append("/usr/lib/python2.7") | 20:13 |
| DBO | gobject has forever broken me | 20:13 |
| DBO | LarstiQ, actually its still complaining with the same error | 20:14 |
| LarstiQ | DBO: is this some longer running process? | 20:14 |
| LarstiQ | DBO: what application is it? | 20:15 |
| DBO | sublime text | 20:15 |
| LarstiQ | DBO: http://sublimetext.info/docs/en/basic_concepts.html says "This embedded interpreter is intended only to interact with the plugin API, not for general development." | 20:18 |
| LarstiQ | I wonder how far they took that | 20:18 |
| LarstiQ | DBO: in a normal python sys.path should never be None | 20:18 |
| LarstiQ | I think | 20:19 |
| LarstiQ | DBO: what you could try then is assigning to it, sys.path = ["/usr/lib/python2.7"] | 20:19 |
| DBO | that got me further | 20:20 |
| DBO | crazy | 20:20 |
| DBO | jelmer, do you know how I can turn an lp: link into something bzrlib understands? | 21:26 |
| mwhudson | jelmer: you should be using the people.c.c version now | 21:41 |
| mwhudson | jelmer: how did you get that link? | 21:41 |
| poolie | hi mgz, jelmer, all | 21:48 |
| poolie | dbo, if you have the launchpad plugin loaded bzrlib ought to just understand it directly | 21:49 |
| DBO | poolie, do I need to do something special to make it load | 21:50 |
| DBO | because I am just getting an error | 21:50 |
| DBO | poolie, I am getting an unsupported protocol error | 21:51 |
| jelmer | hi DBO, mwhudson, poolie | 21:53 |
| jelmer | DBO: where are you passing the URL to ? | 21:53 |
| jelmer | mwhudson: it's in one of the bzr docs | 21:54 |
| jelmer | mwhudson: what is the proper URL? | 21:54 |
| DBO | jelmer, branch.push(Branch.open("lp:myurl")) | 21:55 |
| mwhudson | jelmer: http://people.canonical.com/~mwh/bzrlibapi/ | 21:56 |
| mwhudson | jelmer: i had a redirect, but it seems to have stopped working at some point | 21:56 |
| jelmer | mwhudson: thanks, I'll fix thew link | 21:57 |
| jelmer | DBO: did you call initialize() ? | 21:57 |
| jelmer | DBO: and are you calling load_plugins()? | 21:57 |
| mwhudson | jelmer: thanks | 21:57 |
| DBO | jelmer, ahhhh that makes it crash but I'll figure it out :) | 21:58 |
| DBO | is it possible to get bzrlib on python 2.6 | 22:11 |
| jelmer | DBO: yeah, it works with 2.6 | 22:12 |
| DBO | jelmer, how do I make it do that on ubuntu? | 22:13 |
| DBO | :) | 22:13 |
| * DBO knows nothing of python | 22:13 | |
| jelmer | DBO: it would just be available for the default python in that case I think (which is 2.7 in your case, I think) | 22:16 |
| DBO | jelmer, yeah but im stuck on 2.6 :D | 22:17 |
| jelmer | DBO: you can manually compile bzr into a specific location I guess, or get your editor to use the system python | 22:22 |
| DBO | jelmer, it breaks with python 2.7 :) | 22:23 |
| DBO | awesome | 22:23 |
| DBO | screw it, abandoning S.S. bzrlib | 22:23 |
| jelmer | DBO: you should be able to build bzr for python2.6 into a specific location (e.g. "python2.6 setup.py install --prefix=bar") | 22:23 |
| DBO | jelmer, where do I get the sources? | 22:24 |
| jelmer | DBO: https://launchpad.net/bzr/+download | 22:24 |
| DBO | okay, trying that | 22:25 |
| DBO | this guy needs to update his editor to python 2.7... | 22:25 |
| DBO | jelmer, it gives a bunch of errors, Im thinking this might be more hassle than its worth | 22:38 |
| DBO | i can probably just call the bzr command directly and get decent enough results to not care | 22:39 |
| jelmer | DBO: I guess it depends a bit on what you're trying to do exactly | 22:39 |
| DBO | I want to do a full out integration | 22:39 |
| DBO | but its really not nice to have to deal with this python incompatibility | 22:40 |
| jelmer | DBO: the issue with not using bzrlib but the bzr command-line executable is that you have to parse the output it generates | 22:40 |
| jelmer | or use bzr-xmloutput and parse the output that generates | 22:40 |
| DBO | why is bzrlib looking to build C files | 22:41 |
| DBO | I dont get that... | 22:41 |
| DBO | gcc -pthread -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv -O2 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -I/usr/include/python2.6 -c bzrlib/_static_tuple_c.c -o build/temp.linux-x86_64-2.6/bzrlib/_static_tuple_c.o | 22:41 |
| DBO | bzrlib/_static_tuple_c.c:35:33: fatal error: _simple_set_pyx_api.h: No such file or directory | 22:41 |
| DBO | its puking on that | 22:41 |
| jelmer | DBO: there are (optional) implementations in C of some functionality, faster than the python implementation | 22:42 |
| jelmer | hmm, I think that header should be included | 22:42 |
| DBO | ah | 22:42 |
| DBO | okay, just using the python fallbacks then | 22:42 |
| jelmer | DBO: that header file should be included in the tarball I think | 22:42 |
| DBO | I just grabbed trunk | 22:43 |
| DBO | bad juju | 22:43 |
| DBO | ? | 22:43 |
| jelmer | DBO: if you want to run trunk with the C extensions, you need to have cython installed | 22:43 |
| DBO | jelmer I do | 22:43 |
| DBO | that was one of the first thigns i did | 22:44 |
| DBO | its still complaining about not having it | 22:44 |
| DBO | but it is installed | 22:44 |
| DBO | jelmer, so this is the same error I was getting before when I moved teh bzr 2.7 stuff to be used with 2.6 (just to test) | 22:47 |
| DBO | http://pastebin.com/duBb96yu | 22:47 |
| DBO | thats what I get with my locally installed bzr now | 22:47 |
| jelmer | DBO: your python installation doesn't support ssl, it seems | 22:54 |
| DBO | jelmer, a man could be driven to insanity this way... | 22:54 |
| DBO | Im sorry I have dragged you along :) | 22:54 |
| jelmer | DBO: this is really unusual; I think you might not get very far in communicating with launchpad if there is no ssl support | 22:56 |
| DBO | I wish I could talk with the app author | 22:56 |
| DBO | and get maybe a better version of python on this | 22:56 |
| DBO | either way I have switched his program to using system python 2.6 | 22:56 |
| DBO | which works mostly | 22:56 |
| DBO | except now bzr is complaining about not being able to import future, which I can do from an interpreter | 22:57 |
| DBO | ah I see | 22:59 |
| wgz | the easiest option would be if the editor supported building against the system python | 22:59 |
| wgz | rather than bundling another copy | 22:59 |
| DBO | this is the program unsetting the sys.path | 22:59 |
| DBO | wgz, its not open source | 22:59 |
| wgz | then all the stuf you've just had break would work | 22:59 |
| DBO | yeah, not my program though | 23:00 |
| DBO | alright going to ask the program author to try to give me a better python env to work in... | 23:02 |
| DBO | will see what happens | 23:02 |
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