[00:22] <knon> can anyone help with a problem mounting SSD _
[00:27] <roger_> knon: what's the problem?
[00:27] <knon> Thank you for answering
[00:28] <knon> I got files on SD , I can mount no problem but as soon as i copy or do anything to the files the SD goes offline - running Mint Blue
[00:29] <roger_> knon: you can cd to the directory and ls the gilee?
[00:31] <knon> yes
[00:31] <knon> I can see all the files until i try to open any of them
[00:32] <knon> i suspect a problem with partion header - is a fat32
[00:34] <abmoraz> Hello
[00:34] <abmoraz> can someone give me a hand?
[00:34] <abmoraz> I did a fresh install of kubuntu 11.10 and my apt sources are broke out of the gate
[00:35] <roger_> knon: did you run a chkdsk against it?
[00:35] <roger_> abmoraz: what would you like?
[00:35] <knon> i did it did not work
[00:36] <abmoraz> I've tried switching them and everyone gives me a "Hash Sum invalid"
[00:36] <abmoraz> or something of that nature
[00:36] <abmoraz> one second, I will paste the error
[00:37] <knon> i tried partition magic too
[00:37] <bazhang> hash sum mismatch?
[00:38] <abmoraz> yes, that
[00:38] <bazhang> just got that one
[00:38] <abmoraz> hash sum mismatch
[00:38] <abmoraz> I get it no matter what repository I choos
[00:38] <roger_> knon: the chkdsk failed?
[00:38] <abmoraz> *choose
[00:38] <knon> yes
[00:39] <abmoraz> I have tried using apt-get -f and --fix-missing
[00:39] <abmoraz> neither work
[00:39] <roger_> knon: possibly the disk is corrupted? hve you tried testdisk on it?
[00:39] <abmoraz> I have removed the partial debs
[00:39] <abmoraz> no avail
[00:39] <knon> chkdsk is win right ?
[00:40] <bazhang> abmoraz, removed the folder?
[00:40] <abmoraz> bazhang: what have you tried so far?
[00:41] <roger_> knon: yes
[00:41] <roger_> testdisk is linux
[00:41] <bazhang> knon, perhaps he meant fsck
[00:41] <knon> i think this partition is gone but if I can see the files i should be somehow able to get them off the medium ...
[00:41] <knon> i tried testdisk
[00:41] <abmoraz> no, just the broken debs and sources in each respective partial folder (/var/cache/apt/archive/partial/ and /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/)
[00:41] <roger_> it's a fat32 disk. I meant chkdsk though at this point it doesn't make a difference
[00:41] <bazhang> abmoraz, how did you delete those
[00:42] <roger_> that's going to be the issue if it's a partition error. if the chipset is messed up though then it maybe that youc an't remove anything from the drive without bypassing the firmware
[00:42] <abmoraz> bazhang: sudo rm /var/apt/cache/archive/partial/*
[00:43] <bazhang> abmoraz, and the subsequent apt-get update had the same issue?
[00:43] <abmoraz> I've been pulling my hair out over this issue for 2 days now.  I have re-installed 5 times and still get the same error every time
[00:43] <abmoraz> bazhang: yes
[00:44] <abmoraz> I am running kubuntu 11.10 amd 64
[00:44] <bazhang> removing the ones from /var/lib/apt/partial fixed it here
[00:44] <abmoraz> ok, I will try that
[00:44] <bazhang> let me just double check it still is ok
[00:44] <abmoraz> I was removing the partial debs (According to some forum posts)
[00:44] <abmoraz> I will try the partial lists
[00:45] <knon> what firmware?
[00:45] <roger_> on the SSD
[00:45] <roger_> lets' go with good thoughts and presume it's a software configuration error
[00:46] <knon> no firmware on there as i formatted the whole thing
[00:46] <roger_> hard drives noawadays are so propietary that if somethign goes wrong your data is screwed without an electron microscope
[00:46] <abmoraz> bazhang: ok, no errors on update
[00:47] <roger_> knon: Your firmware would survive the formatting. It is what would do the formatting
[00:47] <abmoraz> bazhang: but errors on the upgrade
[00:48] <abmoraz> bazhang: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.5.11~dfsg-1ubuntu2.1_amd64.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[00:48] <bazhang> abmoraz, yep, it's back here after being fixed momentarily. will have to check launchpad for the specific bug and comments for possible workarounds
[00:48] <knon> sorry i meant to say SD no SSD
[00:49] <abmoraz> bazhang: what is launchpad?
[00:49] <knon> it is just  a little chip as used in cameras and phones
[00:49] <bazhang> abmoraz, where the bugs are noted and addressed
[00:49] <abmoraz> knon: are you trying to mount an SD chip to your linux?
[00:49] <bazhang> !bugs
[00:50] <knon> yes
[00:50] <knon> via usb of course
[00:50] <abmoraz> I had an issue with that at work last week.  I had to use a different USB mount for it.
[00:51] <abmoraz> I got a 32GB SD chip, but my old USB SD adapter wouldn't handle it
[00:51] <knon> 32gb it is
[00:51] <abmoraz> it would mount my old 2GB SD chip fine.  I borrowed a co-worker's USB adapter and it worked fine with my 32GB SD chip
[00:52] <knon> tried 3 so far
[00:52] <knon> will explore this as you may be right although 1 of them came with the chip
[00:53] <abmoraz> it may not be the same issue, then
[00:53] <abmoraz> I would assume that the one that game witht he ship would work
[00:53] <abmoraz> *came with the chip
[00:53] <knon> thing is the whole set-up worked initially and then stopped working
[00:53] <abmoraz> afk a few minutes to switch laundry
[00:54] <roger_> abmoraz: it mounted but then unmounted when you looked at the files?
[00:55] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/82747/update-manager-not-working   abmoraz this one, correct?
[00:55] <knon> yes that happens now but before i could save to the device and read/write everything
[01:01] <abmoraz> bazhang: yes
[01:01] <abmoraz> bazhang: wait, no
[01:02] <abmoraz> bazhang: same final error, but the start of the error is different
[01:02] <roger_> knon: when did this start?
[01:02] <abmoraz> bazhang: I am not seeing signature errors
[01:02] <bazhang> so my hash sum mismatch errors are gone, and now I got that. wunderbar
[01:03] <knon> 2 days
[01:03] <knon> started while saving to the device - was not even full
[01:04] <roger_> knon: who makes the device ?
[01:04] <knon> anyway i will keep searching for solutions - should have backed up of course
[01:04] <knon> sandisk
[01:05] <roger_> knon: does it support SMART ?
[01:05] <knon> no
[01:05] <roger_> might want to run smartmontools on it if it does
[01:06] <roger_> if not then look on sandisk's site if they have an integrity tool
[01:06] <roger_> Disks do fail
[01:06] <knon> ok
[01:06] <knon> it is the partition header i am certain
[01:07] <abmoraz> here is the error I get when running "sudo apt-get update"
[01:07] <abmoraz> Get:31 http://archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-updates/universe amd64 Packages [97.4 kB]
[01:07] <abmoraz> 99% [23 Packages bzip2 0 B] [31 Packages 1,533 B/97.4 kB 1%]                                              584 kB/s 0s
[01:07] <abmoraz> bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing.
[01:07] <abmoraz>         Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
[01:07] <abmoraz> It is possible that the compressed file(s) have become corrupted.
[01:07] <FloodBotK1> abmoraz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:08] <roger_> knon: testdisk should be able to list the files and pull them then
[01:09] <knon> it failed sadly
[01:11] <bazhang> abmoraz, well it seems I fixed the hash sum mismatch by deleting the partial folder
[01:11] <knon> once the sd goes offline I have to reinsert it and it mounts again
[01:12] <abmoraz> bazhang: try and do an "apt-get upgrade" and see if it really fixed
[01:12] <bazhang> then switching servers on the subsequent update got rid of the linked one abovce
[01:12] <bazhang> update and upgrade yep
[01:13] <knon> must go cheers everyone
[01:13] <abmoraz> which server did you witch to?
[01:13] <abmoraz> I will try that one, no matter how far away it is :)
[01:13] <bazhang> another one , same country
[01:14] <bazhang> was tw.archive switched to some other tw
[01:18] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-on-ec2/+bug/914936
[01:18] <bazhang> but ec2 is the cloud iirc
[01:20] <abmoraz> I found another guy who had the problem and he is using the same NIC card I am.  I'm gonna swap it out and see if that helps
[01:20] <abmoraz> thanks for the help.  good luck
[01:22] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1905494 abmoraz
[01:22] <bazhang> augh
[02:20] <abmoraz> bazhang: that's what it was.  I switched out my NIC and everything is working fine now
[02:20] <abmoraz> bazhang: thank you for your help earlier
[02:20] <bazhang> welcome
[02:42] <doomon> hey
[02:44] <Ho^Oh> How can I install KDE without apps like their text editor and such?
[02:47] <doomon> question, does kubuntu 32bit support 8GB ram?
[02:56] <mgolden> Question: last night I noticed a large number of changes that made it to the kubuntu-ppa/beta repository.  When I applied them, I found that I could no longer log in to my system - after it accepted the password nothing much happened.  I removed the beta repository from my list and purged all the packages and it fixed the situation.
[02:57] <mgolden> I noticed in my .xsession-errors what seems to be a problem in nepomuk or Soprano
[02:57] <mgolden> Anyway, I now see what seems to be a similar set of packages appearing, I think in the backports repository
[02:58] <mgolden> Anyone know what these are?
[02:58] <TorpedoSkyline> mgolden: Are you working with the next version of Kubuntu? You should probably be in #kubuntu+1
[02:59] <mgolden> Ah, ok
[02:59] <TorpedoSkyline> np mgolden
[02:59] <mgolden> I am still running 11.10 not 12.04
[02:59] <mgolden> but I do have the 4.8 KDE installed
[02:59] <mgolden> Should I go there?
[03:08] <almoxarife> mgolden: its a bug, i see it too
[03:28] <mgolden> almoxarife: And if I apply the recent update from backports it'll break my machine?
[03:29] <almoxarife> mgolden: i doubt it, i apply every update that comes along, do you mean the updates i am seeing avail right now?
[03:30] <mgolden> Yes, they look just like the updates in the beta repository that I applied yesterday, and then I couldn't log in
[03:30] <mgolden> I took the beta repository out and purged all the packages.
[03:30] <almoxarife> mgolden: but i will tell you in a sec as i am about to install them
[03:31] <mgolden> OK
[03:31] <almoxarife> brb
[03:31] <mgolden> OTOH, if you can't log in you won't be able to reply!
[03:31] <mgolden> :)
[03:31] <almoxarife> mgolden: wth, its just another issue to resolve :)
[03:33] <almoxarife> if it all crashes i have the install iso for 12.04 kubuntu
[03:33] <mgolden> almoxarife: good luck!
[03:33] <almoxarife> mgolden: installing right now
[03:34] <mgolden> almoxarife: logging out and re-logging in should be sufficient to see it;
[03:34] <almoxarife> mgolden: got you
[03:36] <mgolden> almoxarife: actually, now that I think of it, I think I restarted X as well
[03:36] <almoxarife> mgolden: a nice cold boot should prove or disprove
[03:36] <mgolden> almoxarife: yes
[03:37] <almoxarife> mgolden: is there suppose to be a work around?
[03:37] <mgolden> almoxarife: I came here to find out!
[03:38] <mgolden> almoxarife: IOW, no idea
[03:38] <almoxarife> mgolden: stick around then, the install is about complete
[03:38] <mgolden> almoxarife: glued to the scrren
[03:39] <almoxarife> mgolden: going to log out/in brb
[03:41] <almoxarife> still here
[03:43] <almoxarife> mgolden: no issues found
[03:43] <mgolden> almoxarife: so the kubuntu-backports one is okay, but kubuntu-beta isn't?
[03:43] <almoxarife> mgolden: i have both ppa's, which updated?
[03:44] <pazhitox> que tal
[03:44] <almoxarife> nada
[03:44] <pazhitox> hola hola
[03:44] <pazhitox> :D
[03:44] <mgolden> almoxarife: last night it was beta, but now I guess it looks like backports
[03:44] <pazhitox> creo que ando un poco perdido
[03:44] <pazhitox> D:
[03:45] <almoxarife> sim, fala engles
[03:45] <pazhitox> ah pero hay que hablar ingles ?
[03:45] <almoxarife> mgolden: i am guessing its safe
[03:45] <mgolden> Good to know, I'll try it tomorrow
[03:45] <almoxarife> yeap pazhitox, english
[03:46] <mgolden> almoxarife: too much to do tonight
[03:46] <mgolden> almoxarife: thanks, BTW
[03:46] <mgolden> almoxarife: do you know where we should be reporting this problem that we saw on the beta channel?
[03:46] <mgolden> almoxarife: I don't even know what application/package caused it
[03:46] <pazhitox> Pero soy de chile solo hablo español :'(
[03:47] <almoxarife> mgolden: the soprano error ?
[03:47] <mgolden> almoxarife: Well, the problem logging in
[03:47] <mgolden> almoxarife: I don't know if it was the Soprano error that was causing it
[03:47] <mgolden> almoxarife: It was just what I saw in the .xsession-errors
[03:48] <almoxarife> mgolden: i cant duplicate the login error, the soprano error is something i see being googled and no fix found
[03:49] <mgolden> almoxarife: So you never saw the login problem, just the soprano problem?
[03:49] <almoxarife> mgolden: correct
[03:49] <mgolden> almoxarife: makes me nervous
[03:49] <mgolden> almoxarife: I suppose I'll just have to try it
[03:50] <pazhitox> ALMOXARIFE: Como me voy a una sala de chat que hablen español?
[03:50] <almoxarife> mgolden: the soprano error is easy enough to correct in user session, kill the kactivitiesd
[03:50] <mgolden> pazhitox: que problema tiene?  (Hablo poco)
[03:51] <almoxarife> pazhitox: aki se ninguen tiene problema
[03:51] <mgolden> almoxarife: What was its symptom for you
[03:51] <pazhitox> how I'm going to a chat room to speak Spanish?
[03:51] <almoxarife> mgolden: none, i just noticed the xsessions log indicating the error every 5 sec
[03:52] <Snowhog> !sp | pazhitox
[03:52] <Unit193> !es
[03:52] <pazhitox> thank you very much :)
[03:53] <almoxarife> mgolden: my not seeing symptoms may have to do with the fat-free settings i use
[03:55] <mgolden> almoxarife: Those being?
[03:55] <mgolden> almoxarife: I am just using the defaults
[03:55] <mgolden> almoxarife: I suspect, from what you say, that the login problem has nothing to do with the Soprano issue
[03:56] <almoxarife> mgolden: i would agree
[03:58] <mgolden> almoxarife: sux
[03:58] <mgolden> almoxarife: you know any way to debug the failure of KDE to start?
[03:58] <almoxarife> mgolden: what happens at login?
[03:59] <mgolden> almoxarife: the login box disappears
[03:59] <mgolden> almoxarife: and then nothing
[03:59] <almoxarife> black screen?
[03:59] <mgolden> almoxarife: no, it stays blue
[03:59] <mgolden> almoxarife: just no rectangle with the startup stuff in it
[04:00] <mgolden> almoxarife: when I switch to a terminal to look at things, and then switch back, then it's black
[04:00] <almoxarife> mgolden: try uninstall kdm and re-install?
[04:00] <mgolden> almoxarife: good idea
[04:00] <mgolden> almoxarife: what I did try was creating a new user
[04:01] <mgolden> almoxarife: with no profile
[04:01] <almoxarife> mgolden: or install lightdm just to see
[04:01] <mgolden> almoxarife: tried loggin in as him, same result
[04:01] <almoxarife> mgolden: purge kdm and install fresh
[04:01] <mgolden> almoxarife: you know where this stuff is logged?
[04:02] <almoxarife> mgolden: in syslog and kern.log
[04:02] <almoxarife> mgolden: perhaps also xorg.0.log
[04:02] <mgolden> almoxarife: saw nothing much in syslog, didn't think about kern
[04:03] <mgolden> almoxarife: you think it would be an xorg thing?
[04:03] <almoxarife> mgolden: might as well look
[04:04] <mgolden> almoxarife: will do
[04:33] <jorge> alguien que hable español
[04:33] <jorge> ?
[04:34] <Unit193> !es
[04:34] <jorge> necesito aser unca consulta
[04:34] <Unit193> En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en  el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[04:34] <jorge> tengo un problema con mi tarjeta
[04:37] <jorge> tengo un problema con mi tarjeta
[04:37] <jorge> de video
[04:37] <jorge> soy novato y no pude intalarla
[04:37] <almoxarife> jorge: what is 'tarjeta'?
[04:38] <mgolden> almoxarife: card
[04:38] <almoxarife> jorge: ke problema?
[04:40] <almoxarife> se fue iguess
[04:40] <mgolden> parece
[05:01] <alex_k>   
[06:05] <Linuxephus> So what's the take on Ubuntu dropping support for Kubuntu in the coming months? Is that going to effect future releases in a negative way? Personally I don't think so.
[06:08] <Tm_T> Linuxephus: Ubuntu isn't dropping any support (:
[06:14] <Linuxephus> Ubuntu isn't dropping support for Kubuntu or KDE in general as per an article published on Zdnet last week?
[06:16] <mgolden> Linuxephus: Canonical is dropping paid support for Kubuntu.  JRiddell will not be working on it during his job hours.  Other than that no change
[06:16] <mgolden> Linuxephus: Unless you have a support contract for Kubuntu, you probably won't notice
[06:19] <Linuxephus> mgolden: That's right. I just went back over the article in question. I had a few of my details mixed up. Good news mixed up aforehand.
[06:20] <mgolden> Linuxephus: Partly the confusion was brought about by Riddell's somewhat philosopical post announcing the change.  Non-careful readers may have thought that there was some possibility of Kubuntu going away
[06:22] <Linuxephus> Exactly. All in all though, it's good to know that it's not a complete negative situation for Kubuntu in those regards.
[06:26] <Linuxephus> This "auto nickname" completion with-out tabbing it is beginning to be a painfull annoyance.
[06:45] <nixmaniack> hi, I'm getting this error. -> http://i.imgur.com/pp9uZ.png
[06:45] <nixmaniack> i'm not able to connect to my WiFi
[08:46] <argentum> anyone home?
[08:47] <bazhang> argentum, whats the issue
[08:47] <argentum> um
[08:47] <argentum> just checking in; seeing if anyone is active at this hour
[08:47] <argentum> I was wondering though; if anyone has experience running a hackintosh virtual machine
[08:49] <bazhang> dont think thats allowed. iirc only mac os x servers are legally available for virtualization
[08:49] <argentum> you mean
[08:49] <argentum> discussion of non-legal mac servers
[08:49] <argentum> is prohibited by the governance of this IRC?
[08:50] <bazhang> you should ask in a ##macos channel
[08:50] <argentum> you're eright
[08:50] <bazhang> nothing to do with Kubuntu support
[08:50] <argentum> right
[08:50] <argentum> I understand
[08:50] <bazhang> try alis
[08:50] <bazhang> !alis
[08:50] <argentum> thank you
[08:50] <argentum> !alis
[08:51] <argentum> I'll be sure to come here when I have any serious issues;
[08:51] <argentum> thank you very much for your responsiveness
[09:28] <faLUCE> Hi. I'm using a 8 channels video card based on saa7134 chip. I can see good images for 5 channels simoultaneously. But when I add the remaining channels, the quality decreases very strongly and I see horrible lines when there is a motion on the video. how can I solve?
[09:57] <Anypotaktos> anyone can help me?
[10:00] <Anypotaktos> my kopete cant connect on msn acc
[10:02] <Anypotaktos> This means Kopete cannot reach the instant messaging server or peers.
[10:02] <Anypotaktos> This can be because either your internet access is down or the server is experiencing problems. Try connecting again later.
[10:14] <ubuntu> hello
[10:14] <ubuntu> I have lost my kubuntu desktop by updating my kubuntu yesterday
[10:15] <ubuntu> very funny
[10:15] <ubuntu> how can I reinstall itM
[10:16] <ubuntu> I m on the live CD oneric
[10:18] <L3top> you could apt-get install kde-standard... or kde-minimal I suppose.
[10:18] <ubuntu> L3top: I m on the live CD
[10:18] <L3top> ok... then lets have some fun. Ready?
[10:19] <ubuntu> yep
[10:19] <L3top> open file manager
[10:19] <L3top> locate and select drive
[10:19] <ubuntu> dolphin if open
[10:19] <L3top> ctrl l
[10:19] <L3top> see the path?
[10:19] <L3top> prob /media/disk
[10:19] <L3top> or something like that
[10:20] <L3top> thats a lowercase L btw
[10:21] <L3top> you with me?
[10:21] <ubuntu> how can I switch to french keymap please
[10:21] <ubuntu> yep I see 4 folder in mediq
[10:21] <ubuntu> media
[10:22] <L3top> I just want the raw path to your disk...
[10:22] <ubuntu> the /
[10:22] <L3top> if you press ctrl l with the disk selected in dolphin, it will show you the path
[10:22] <ubuntu> /media/ac257c06-88ea-495d-a6bc-7ca9cc093a08/
[10:22] <L3top> great
[10:22] <L3top> open a terminal
[10:23] <ubuntu> yep
[10:23] <L3top> sudo su
[10:23] <ubuntu> ok
[10:23] <L3top> mkdir /mnt/recover
[10:23] <L3top> wait
[10:23] <L3top> we dont need that
[10:24] <ubuntu> ok
[10:24] <L3top> mount none -t proc /media/ac257c06-88ea-495d-a6bc-7ca9cc093a08/proc
[10:25] <L3top> mount none -t devpts /media/ac257c06-88ea-495d-a6bc-7ca9cc093a08/dev/pts
[10:25] <L3top> mount none -t sysfs /media/ac257c06-88ea-495d-a6bc-7ca9cc093a08/sys
[10:25] <L3top> chroot  /media/ac257c06-88ea-495d-a6bc-7ca9cc093a08
[10:26] <L3top> apt-get install kde-standard
[10:26] <ubuntu> bash: /dev/null: Permission non accordée
[10:26] <L3top> sorry
[10:26] <ubuntu> for the last line
[10:26] <L3top> for which command
[10:26] <L3top> chroot?
[10:26] <ubuntu> yes
[10:26] <L3top> chroot /media/ac257c06-88ea-495d-a6bc-7ca9cc093a08/
[10:27] <L3top> throw a / on the end
[10:27] <ubuntu> oO
[10:27] <ubuntu> # chroot /media/ac257c06-88ea-495d-a6bc-7ca9cc093a08/
[10:27] <ubuntu> chroot: impossible de changer le répertoire racine vers /media/ac257c06-88ea-495d-a6bc-7ca9cc093a08/: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
[10:28] <L3top> ok
[10:28] <L3top> impossible I understand
[10:28] <L3top> one second
[10:28] <ubuntu> ok
[10:29] <L3top> before we go further...
[10:30] <L3top> cat /media/ac257c06-88ea-495d-a6bc-7ca9cc093a08/etc/X11/default-display-manager
[10:31] <ubuntu> cat: /media/ac257c06-88ea-495d-a6bc-7ca9cc093a08/etc/X11/default-display-manager: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
[10:31] <L3top> Can you translate that for me
[10:31] <ubuntu> no file exist
[10:31] <ubuntu> or directory
[10:32] <L3top> ...
[10:32] <L3top> when you click on your drive
[10:32] <L3top> what do you see as contents?
[10:32] <L3top> in dolphin I mean
[10:32] <ubuntu> yes
[10:33] <L3top> do you have a normal /bin /boot /etc etc?
[10:34] <ubuntu> yes
[10:35] <L3top> cd /media/ac257c06-88ea-495d-a6bc-7ca9cc093a08/etc
[10:35] <L3top> cd X11
[10:36] <L3top> ls
[10:36] <L3top> assuming you have an X11
[10:37] <ubuntu> root@ubuntu:/media/ac257c06-88ea-495d-a6bc-7ca9cc093a08/etc/X11# ls
[10:37] <ubuntu> app-defaults             X                 xorg.conf.p  Xsession.d
[10:37] <ubuntu> cursors                  xinit             Xreset       Xsession.options
[10:37] <ubuntu> default-display-manager  xkb               Xreset.d     Xwrapper.config
[10:37] <ubuntu> fonts                    xorg.conf.backup  Xresources
[10:37] <FloodBotK1> ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:37] <ubuntu> rgb.txt                  xorg.conf.old     Xsession
[10:37] <L3top> I clearly see a default-display-manager
[10:38] <L3top> must have typoed... sorry
[10:38] <L3top> cat defau*
[10:38] <ubuntu> /usr/bin/kdm
[10:39] <L3top> hmmm...
[10:39]  * L3top doesnt know why we cant chroot either...
[10:39] <L3top> can you boot into the system?
[10:39] <L3top> to a prompt?
[10:40] <L3top> or arre you on it now to be here?
[10:40] <ubuntu> yes
[10:40] <ubuntu> I have try to repear with recovery mode
[10:41] <L3top> Is this possibly a grub error?
[10:41] <ubuntu> * had tryied
[10:41] <L3top> this is a grub thing then I think...
[10:42] <ubuntu> no grub error in boot sequence
[10:42] <L3top> but if it was just the desktop not loading, you wouldnt be in recovery mode
[10:42] <L3top> you would just be sitting at a prompt
[10:44] <L3top> If I cannot chroot in, I dont think I can help... something is very broken.
[10:44] <L3top> umount -lf /media/ac257c06-88ea-495d-a6bc-7ca9cc093a08/dev/pts
[10:44] <ubuntu> I have try to add the cd rom to apt
[10:45] <L3top> umount -lf /media/ac257c06-88ea-495d-a6bc-7ca9cc093a08/proc
[10:45] <L3top> umount -lf /media/ac257c06-88ea-495d-a6bc-7ca9cc093a08/sys
[10:45] <L3top> before moving on, just cause.
[10:46] <ubuntu> I reboot
[10:46] <ubuntu> thx for your help
[11:26] <kbroulik> why does the kubuntu live session do a better job in detecting screen configuration than an installed kubuntu? on the live cd, I just started it and all the monitors had perfectly native resolution, I had to rearrange them which was okay, but otherwise it worked fine. on the installed, I mostly end up with one monitor being disabled or me not able to wake that monitor up from standby, sometimes it's one monitor, sometimes both
[11:26] <kbroulik> stay offline …
[11:29] <L3top> I believe that the live cd is using vesa drivers
[11:30] <L3top> and linux support from hw manufacturers suck in large part.
[11:30] <L3top> however if you want to take advantage of the capabilities of the card
[11:30] <L3top> you have to use their driver/config tools
[11:31] <L3top> vesa drivers work on almost anything
[11:31] <L3top> but are very limited. WOuldnt wanna watch video on em prob.
[11:32] <kbroulik> L3top: well the vesa drivers are the basic 2d only stuff?
[11:32] <kbroulik> but it was composited, even wobbly windows worked
[11:35] <L3top> I find that confusing
[11:35] <L3top> oh wait
[11:35] <L3top> Im still thinking xorg stuff.
[11:36] <kbroulik> I use the radeon drivers here and they work quite well, I can play all my favorite games in maximum settings but … that it just doesnt remember the monitor config properly sucks
[11:36] <L3top> ati linux stuff is a pain.
[11:36] <kbroulik> I come from nvidia and it isnt better either
[11:36] <L3top> I would argue that.
[11:37] <kbroulik> the nouveau driver just doesnt work on my machine
[11:37] <kbroulik> it crashes reproducibly once there is more than one monitor attached
[11:37] <L3top> oh gosh no... nouveau is not awesome.
[11:37] <L3top> but the glx stuff is quite nice
[11:37] <L3top> accelleration vdpau...
[11:38] <kbroulik> problem with the open source drivers is their automatic monitor detection
[11:38] <kbroulik> and this sucks and screws upt he config everytime you restart the machine
[11:38] <kbroulik> because … well … it's not in a config file but generated on startup
[11:38] <kbroulik> funny that Plymouth (the start screen) does a perfect job in finding the correct resolution while X just messes it all up
[11:38] <L3top> you can get around that
[11:38] <L3top> creating an xorg
[11:38] <L3top> it will default to that.
[11:39] <L3top> We use proprietary drivers because of the media heavy stuff we do.
[11:40] <L3top> and ati is going to put me in an early grave
[11:40] <L3top> lol
[11:40] <kbroulik> I also used the proprietary nvidia driver because nouveau was not usable
[11:40] <kbroulik> but now I am not going to install a proprietary driver again
[11:41] <kbroulik> because they also suck
[11:41] <kbroulik> well all sucks
[11:41] <kbroulik> that's sad
[11:41] <FloodBotK1> kbroulik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:41] <L3top> well... again... the nvidia stuff plays much nicer.
[11:42] <kbroulik> nouveau crashed frequently, nvidia-current is slow as hell … fglrx ruins the entire system, radeon works perfectly except for that screen detection thingie
[11:42] <kbroulik> I am jealous on my mom's computer … she just has an Intel onboard, and I never had problems with it
[11:42] <L3top> what nvidia card are you using?
[11:42] <kbroulik> I was using a Geforce 250 GTS
[11:42] <L3top> shouldnt use current
[11:43] <kbroulik> huh?
[11:43] <L3top> nvidia-glx-290
[11:43] <L3top> er...
[11:43] <kbroulik> whatever, I just installed nvidia-current and that's all ^^
[11:43] <L3top> 260
[11:44] <L3top> current is the 295
[11:44] <kbroulik> okay …
[11:44] <L3top> 260 is much better and the opposite of slow
[11:44] <kbroulik> I dont care … I dont have that card in my machine anymore :D Now I got a Sapphire Radeon HD6870
[11:44] <L3top> for that card
[11:45] <L3top> I would think that fglrx would be the direction for that one
[11:45] <L3top> a much better driver, but... finicky
[11:45] <kbroulik> fglrx left me with an unbootable system
[11:45] <L3top> you are running multiple monitors?
[11:45] <kbroulik> fglrx is just causing trouble … both on my computer and my notebook
[11:45] <kbroulik> yes
[11:45] <L3top> our project wouldn't suit you.
[11:45] <kbroulik> I have three monitors
[11:46] <kbroulik> one attached on DP, the other two on DVI
[11:47] <L3top> I have to write all of the autodetection/driver install stuff... and as I said... ATI has been the bane of my existence the last few months.
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:59] <jonah> hi trying to change desktop icons but they won't save. also my menu editor won't work and wine apps aren't showing up on my kmenu so would like to add them in but when i do they're still not there. any suggestions what may be causing it?
[15:59] <jonah> thanks
[16:07] <BluesKaj> jonah,  open system serttings>workspace appearence and application appearance to finalize your settings , when making changes make sure you click apply
[16:09] <Riddell> !testers
[16:09] <Riddell> new images http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20120225/
[16:09] <jonah> BluesKaj: hi thanks but it's when I right click an icon on the desktop to change the icon to another. for example there's a text file on the desktop, so i click it and choose an icon with a notepad desig on instead of the default and press save and it stays the same as how it was already
[16:11] <jonah> BluesKaj: then also my wine menu doesn't have photoshop or dreamweaver entries, even though i installed them and they run if i find them in dolphin. so i tried to add entries by pressing right click on the kmenu icon and edit menu / add application, enter it all in and press save then exit out and it's not on the menu still. then i click menu editor again and what i added has dissappeared...
[16:21] <excognac> hi all
[16:23] <excognac> I am debugging print problems with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems I did atep four i. e. sudo ls -1 /var/spool/cups but there is no file beginning with d
[16:23] <excognac> what shall i do now?
[16:25] <excognac> *step 4
[16:31] <BluesKaj> excognac , reboot and the prinbter should be recognized
[16:32] <excognac> BluesKaj: prtinter is recognized but does not print, I reported a back. I think you also tried to help me with this issue last week
[16:33] <excognac> *back=gug
[16:33] <excognac> bug
[16:33] <BluesKaj> yes , dell printer ?
[16:36] <excognac> yup
[16:39] <excognac> Ignore it. my fault
[16:39] <BluesKaj> excognac,  have you run the printer wizard in system settings>printer configuration?
[16:40] <excognac> BluesKaj: I did, 10 times. Never helped.
[16:42] <BluesKaj> which driver is it recommending ...try some alternatives if there are any listed
[16:44] <excognac> I've tried all. None of them worked
[16:45] <BluesKaj> did you reboot in between driver installs ?
[16:48] <excognac> I did
[16:50] <BluesKaj> and the printr show up with lsusb in the terminal ?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> printer shows
[16:50] <excognac> yes
[16:50] <excognac> the printer is recognized
[16:51] <excognac> just does not print, only the text page. Now I am trying to follow the debugging manual
[16:51] <BluesKaj> wel, that's a start ...sounds like a drive rissue to me ...wonder about dell linx support , is there any?
[16:52] <BluesKaj> it prints the test page ? then make sure you click "ok" after it prints , not before .that "sets" the print settings
[16:52] <excognac> yes, they shipped the printer with a cd with install.sh on it. Either I ran it from the disk or HDD with chmod +x, it always has logged me off from kubuntu
[16:53] <excognac> and the dell software never worked
[16:54] <excognac> same if i download it from their webpage
[16:54] <meNtha> hey guys
[16:54] <meNtha> i have a little problem
[16:55] <BluesKaj> excognac, , well dunno how to help otherwise
[16:55] <meNtha> my cpu is on 100%  cause virtuoso -t use 90%/
[16:55] <meNtha> it s a bug?
[16:55] <meNtha> any solution?
[16:55] <BluesKaj> meNtha,  why use virtuoso ...it' a hog
[16:56] <excognac> BluesKaj: no problem, you've always helped me out whenever you could
[16:56] <meNtha> what i should to do? :D
[16:56] <BluesKaj> MetaBot,  do you need virtuoso/nepomuk ?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> meNtha, ^
[16:57] <BluesKaj> sorr to many nicks with the same first 2 letters
[16:57] <BluesKaj> too many
[16:57] <meNtha> np
[16:58] <meNtha> idk, what does this application?
[16:58] <meNtha> i'm just updated my system, and amarok :D
[16:59] <BluesKaj> meNtha,  are you a home user or in a workplace ?
[17:00] <meNtha> hmm
[17:00] <meNtha> nice question
[17:00] <meNtha> i'm seo/sem consultant, so i working on my home computer :D
[17:00] <BluesKaj> !nepomuk
[17:00] <BluesKaj> !info nepomuk
[17:01] <BluesKaj> !virtuoso
[17:01] <meNtha> ohh, its better, just 95% and 55C :D
[17:01] <BluesKaj> wth , where's the bot
[17:03] <BluesKaj> MetaBot,  do you need file indexing , is the question, if not you can turn nepomuk off in system settings , startup&shutdown>service manager >startup services
[17:03] <BluesKaj> meNtha, ^
[17:05] <meNtha> i cant :O
[17:05] <BluesKaj> yes you can
[17:05] <BluesKaj> uncheck the box beside nepomuk , and it won't start the next boot up
[17:07] <BluesKaj> but you have to check "restore session " in seession management
[17:08] <BluesKaj> and to amke sure it never starts again , type mepomuk in the dialog applications tobe excluded from ....
[17:08]  * BluesKaj curses his phat phingers
[17:09] <meNtha> hmm
[17:09] <BluesKaj> hmm what ?
[17:09] <meNtha> startup services doesnt have nepomuk checkbox
[17:10] <meNtha> it hink i have to restart my pc
[17:10] <BluesKaj> meNtha,  service manager does
[17:11] <BluesKaj> meNtha,  are you on kubuntu ? or ubuntu
[17:11] <meNtha> kubuntu ofc
[17:12] <BluesKaj> look for nepomuk search module
[17:13] <meNtha> hmm
[17:13] <meNtha> cant find
[17:13] <meNtha> wat a min, i'm gonna restart
[17:18] <meNtha> re
[17:18] <meNtha> now i can uncheck the nepomuk
[17:26] <excognac> actually, why would one need nepomuk?
[17:26] <BluesKaj> meNtha,  and to make sure it never starts again , type nepomuk in the dialog box " applications to be excluded from .... '
[17:26] <meNtha> i dont need it
[17:27] <BluesKaj> and unless you need kmail , do the same for akonadi
[17:27] <jcgs> excognac: nepomuk does the things that windows search and spotlight do, ie makes things like emails easily searchable
[17:27] <meNtha> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports added, and it istalled
[17:27] <meNtha> i think
[17:27] <meNtha> BluesKaj thanks a lot!
[17:28] <excognac> cos I also had for some reason but now eliminated:)7
[17:28] <BluesKaj> if want to search files and not ahve a cpu hog daemon , install krusader
[17:29] <jcgs> Hi :) Does anyone know what to do if kmail loses all your emails? for some reason, my kmail is starting up blank, despite me having two accounts registered with it :( Also, whenever I click on "mail" in Kontact,it opens kmail in a separaet window, which is also blank. Very strange behaviour!
[17:30] <BluesKaj> jcgs,  is akonadi running ?
[17:31] <BluesKaj> kmaul uses akonadi to search the db for emails , afaik
[17:31] <BluesKaj> kamil
[17:31] <BluesKaj> i give up ...kmail
[17:31] <jcgs> BluesKaj: seems to be, it has plenty of processes open, and i can change settings and stuff
[17:32] <jcgs> BluesKaj: might it have anything to do with the fact that I recently tried to change to "disconnected mode"?
[17:33] <BluesKaj> sorry jcgs , my attempts to get kmail to work were fruitless ..I finally gave up after akonadi kept erroring with my ISP email settings
[17:34] <BluesKaj> so my knowledge base about kmail is very scattered
[17:34] <jcgs> oh dear :( i suspect it would be difficult to file a bug along the lines of "this program is fail"
[17:34] <BluesKaj> I loved kmail in kde3
[17:36] <jim_> @jcgs: Thunderbird has issues like this depending on the startup directory.  If it autostarts, it has the wrong directory because it uses /etc/passwd.  If I start it myself, it looks in the right directory because I set the starting directory.
[17:41] <BluesKaj> BBL
[18:01] <jcgs> jim_: do you know what the "right directory" is? kmail doesn't store its emails in a directory, it stores them in a database, so it shouldn't matter where i start it, surely?
[18:04] <yofel> jcgs: can you install akonadiconsole and see if the database is up fine?
[18:07] <jcgs> yofel: it's installed, how do i check if the database is "up fine"?
[18:09] <yofel> jcgs: just go on db browser, and press refresh
[18:09] <yofel> does it show anything?
[18:10] <jcgs> yofel: yeah, an incomprehensible table appeared :) is that ok?
[18:10] <yofel> yeah, meaning mysql works at least
[18:10] <yofel> jcgs: is your mail account shown on the agent tab?
[18:11] <jcgs> kk, presumably all that means is that kmail / kontact is failing to talk to it properly
[18:11] <jcgs> yofel: yeah, they both are
[18:11] <excognac> BluesKaj: I don't get stg: I just removed nepomuk search module from startup apps, set start with an empty session, and I have virtuoso-t, nepomukcontroller, four(!) nepomukservicestub and nepomukserver running. Why?
[18:11] <excognac> obviously after restart
[18:12] <yofel> jcgs: then I'm not really sure what's wrong...
[18:12] <yofel> kmail version?
[18:13] <jcgs> i just opened it and it seems to be doing better :)
[18:13] <jcgs> some folders have appeared :)
[18:13] <BluesKaj> excognac,  don't start with empty seession , then the defaults startup including nepomuk , set it to 'restore previous session" . after turning nepomuk etc off inthe service manager
[18:13] <jcgs> yofel: 4.7.3
[18:13] <yofel> why not 4.7.4?
[18:14] <excognac> BluesKaj:  ouch ok, so I shouldn't have changed it
[18:16] <jcgs> yofel: kde is version 4.7.4 kmail is version 4.7.3. i have a screenshot, but i presum it's running the latest version. i keep kubuntu updated regularly (i did updates this morning)
[18:17] <yofel> then I guess just the version number is wrong
[18:17] <BluesKaj> wish there was a method runkmail kontact independently of alaonadi and the db ..the db is of no use to ppl like me who don't store thousands of emails
[18:17] <BluesKaj> to run kmail
[18:17] <yofel> well, mails are stored in akonadi now, so without that, kmail is practically useless
[18:18] <excognac> BluesKaj: still have them
[18:18] <BluesKaj> why isn't  more like t-bird ..independent with it's own storage dir
[18:18] <jcgs> yofel: http://imagebin.org/201078
[18:20] <BluesKaj> excognac,  stiil have nepomuk ...like I said earleir , make sure you enter nepouk in the textbox in session managemet , "Applications to be excluded...."
[18:21] <jcgs> I know this is going to be quite controversial, but i think (in principle at least) akonadi is quite a good idea. There are good reasons to separate the checking-and-storing-mails process from the looking-at-mails process (the e-mail client) and sharing the former between all the clients ought to engourage better development :)
[18:21] <jcgs> That presumes of course that akonadi is actually well-implemented
[18:23] <BluesKaj> jcgs,  it's fine for office situations which need to maintain a large email database , but what use is it for home users like me who just want kmail to be optionally availble with links to an uneeded database
[18:24] <BluesKaj> without links rather
[18:25] <jcgs> it ought to allow faster and more efficient searching, and checking of e-mails in background while the e-mail client is closed, saving memory, and meaning that the email database is much more up to date. therefore it also ought to improve start-up times for clients, as they shouldn't need to do a manual email check every time
[18:27] <jcgs> but obviously it depends how you use email as to which is more appropriate, searching and background checking may not be worth having
[18:28] <yofel> it does do mail fetching in the background when kmail is closed
[18:28] <yofel> just uses a lot more memory than before :(
[18:28] <BluesKaj> jcgs,  the lack of non-db and other options in kmail is my complaint
[18:30] <BluesKaj> kmail is tied to some enterprise vision the canonical management has for kubuntu ...sad really
[18:30] <BluesKaj> or had , I guess :)
[18:32] <BluesKaj> my next peeve is the so called playlist setup in amarok ...that's a bloody mess too
[18:32] <jcgs> BluesKaj: in a sense, a mailbox is by definition a database, however it's stored, so it makes sense to use a program that specializes in handling data, rather than re-inventing the wheel
[18:32] <BluesKaj> jcgs,  did you ever run kde3 ?
[18:33] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: Canonical doesn't drive either KDE or Kmail development.  If you think that Kmail is tied to some management vision, well, that's the devs choice.
[18:33] <jcgs> possibly, but probably not as my main os
[18:34] <BluesKaj> kmail didn't use a mysql/akonadi db in kde3 ...so the devs actually did reinvent the wheel already, jcgs
[18:35] <jcgs> Could you search e-mails from krunner? or sync them without kmail being open?
[18:35] <fakher> hi everyone, i install kde minimal on ubuntu and i want install french language, how pls
[18:35] <fakher> sorry my poor english
[18:35] <DarthFrog> !fr|fakher
[18:36] <BluesKaj> well DarthFrog they approved the inclusion and drastic changes to kmail in kde4 ..I don't find that any different in their vision
[18:36] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  Who is they?
[18:36] <BluesKaj> canonical
[18:37] <jcgs> fakher: what about running "sudo apt-get install language-pack-fr language-pack-kde-fr" in a terminal?
[18:37] <BluesKaj> that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it :)
[18:38] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  Good for you. :-)  But Canonical, via the Kubuntu boys, merely implemented what upstream developed.
[18:39] <jcgs> BluesKaj: No worries :) I can well imagine that kmail in kde3 was better, since kmail in kde4 has a long way to go before mathcing something like outlook, or thunderbird
[18:39] <BluesKaj> splitting hairs , DarthFrog  ...the devs answer to management to use or not to use aspects of the desktop environment
[18:40] <BluesKaj> jcgs,  yes , afraid so
[18:42] <jcgs> But my point was that i think there are good reasons for what has happened, and i personally quite like the idea, but that's not to say that everyone has to
[18:42] <yofel> BluesKaj: well, this was more a question of supportability, as upstream support for kmail1 is dead. And we didn't think it would be *this* bad. (The pre-release test were somewhat acceptable)
[18:42] <yofel> Canonical had nothing to do with this though
[18:42] <BluesKaj> yofel,  yeah sure
[18:44] <BluesKaj> lets hope there's abetter independent email program developed for kde that doesn't need some clunky database gumming up the works
[18:44] <BluesKaj> natve kde email app that is
[18:45] <yofel> nah, they're working on fixing kmail - more or less successfull
[18:45] <BluesKaj> just try getting rid of akonadi  and see what happens ,, it's bloody ridiculous
[18:46] <BluesKaj> and I've already complained about it in kde and kubuntu-devel
[18:46] <yofel> well, I know. Not that I can do anything about it -.-
[18:47] <BluesKaj> yeah it's really unfortunate , yofel  :(
[18:49] <yofel> at least I think I've figured out why ktimetracker doesn't work
[18:49] <yofel> so some less breakage in kdepim
[18:55] <RocknRolla> help?
[18:55] <RocknRolla> savio
[18:56] <RocknRolla> help?
[18:56] <RocknRolla> anyone
[18:56] <BluesKaj> RocknRolla,  just ask you qestion
[18:57] <BluesKaj> your
[18:57] <RocknRolla> BluesKaj: which is suitable editor for web dev like dreamveaver in windows?
[19:00] <TSK> RocknRolla: http://alternativeto.net/software/adobe-dreamweaver/?platform=linux&license=free
[19:00] <BluesKaj> http://webdesign.about.com/od/htmleditors/tp/Free-HTML-Editors-Linux-UNIX.htm , RocknRolla
[19:02] <oqpo> hi, I have a problem, the KDE fonts sometimes change automatically, and I have to revert it back. Can I prevent this from happening?
[19:03] <TSK> Personally, I've tried more than a few web editors and eventually just settled on hand coding in Kate editor instead.  Cleaner code, and Kate is one of the better editors I've found for pretty much ANY code in every language.
[19:13] <antonio_> русские есть??
[19:14] <Unit193> !ru | antonio_
[19:14] <antonio_> !ru
[19:17] <Guest50448> ciao
[19:18] <oqpo> Some times when opening files from Dolphin, I get the error: "Could not find the program 'rekonq'. I don't have that program installed, and I don't need it either. How can I fix that?
[19:21] <TSK> oqpo: You need to edit the default file associations and find the one that's trying to load rekonq (lightweight web browser) and change it to your preference.
[19:23] <boblu> Hi, bit of a n00b here.. can someone point me in the direction of installing the flash debug player in chrome and/or firefox?
[19:24] <oqpo> TSK, I have search for that in System Settings, but the default program to is every time kate. And kate opens after I click ok in the error message.
[19:27] <kamelie1706> Hello
[19:28] <oqpo> boblu: I have never hear of a debug version of flash. But the normal flash package is adobe-flashplugin
[19:30] <TSK> oqpo: There are two places in System Settings that I've had affect which app tries to open a file.  If it's not in one, then it's in the other.  Check "System Settings > Default Applications" first, as it's simpler, but if it's not there, then it's somewhere in "System Settings > File Associations".  Another way to solve the issue is to right click on one of the problem files in Dolphin, and select "Properties" from the context menu and then
[19:30] <TSK> click the little wrench button and edit which app opens in there.
[19:30] <kamelie1706> I have just update from http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu + oneiric + main and I have lost all my widget/icons settings on the default activiyt ... Search and Launch & Desktop Icons activities are also completly empty
[19:30] <boblu> I'm sure there is one. I'm a actionscript developer but mostly on win.. but now I would like to move entirely to linux. I do have the debug player standalone version but I must have the plugin debugger aswell. Otherwise I wont be able to work...
[19:32] <oqpo> TSK: Thank you for your help, but there is nothing, the file association is already in this order: kate, kdiff3, firefox, opera. There is no rekonq in the list.
[19:32] <TSK> oqpo: Well, that's just plain strange then.  I haven't had anything try to open rekonq for a LOoooooOooong time now.
[19:33] <kamelie1706> KDE update 4.8.0b :-(
[19:35] <oqpo> TSK: I think maybe it is hard-coded somewhere in a kde lib. I searched for files containing rekonq, but there is noting in ~/, maybe in /etc/.
[19:36] <TSK> What filetype is giving you this problem?
[19:44] <kamelie1706> has anyone successfully update to 4.8.0b
[19:44] <kamelie1706> ?
[19:45] <yofel> kamelie1706: can you check if kubuntu-desktop is installed?
[19:45] <yofel> and libkactivities-bin
[19:47] <kamelie1706> yofel: kubuntu-desktop not there
[19:47] <yofel> please install that
[19:47] <yofel> and please pastebin your /var/log/apt/history.log
[19:48] <jamil_1> hi all, I am trying to change shortcut for show desktop widget to Meta+D but the shortcut is not being assigned
[19:48] <kamelie1706> yofel: my mistake kubuntu-desktop there already
[19:49] <yofel> kamelie1706: and libkactivities-bin?
[19:49] <kamelie1706> yofel: libkactivities-bin also there
[19:49] <yofel> do you have this? /usr/bin/kactivitymanagerd
[19:50] <kamelie1706> yofel:kactivitymanagerd there
[19:51] <jamil_1> here: http://imgur.com/2Rexi
[19:51] <yofel> can you pastebin your history.log please? so I see what the upgrade actually did
[19:51] <jamil_1> you can see, some not printable characters rather than meta key
[19:51] <jamil_1> non*
[19:52] <kamelie1706> yofel: not familiar with pastebin. How do you do that?
[19:52] <yofel> !paste
[19:53] <kamelie1706> !pastebinit
[19:58] <kamelie1706> pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com/859638/
[19:59] <kamelie1706> !patse
[19:59] <kamelie1706> !paste
[19:59] <kamelie1706> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/859638/
[20:08] <kamelie1706> yofel: Did you manage to access the log?
[20:09] <yofel> kamelie1706: hm, that's trimmed already, can you please run this?
[20:09] <yofel> cd /tmp
[20:09] <yofel> gunzip -k /var/log/apt/history.log.1.gz
[20:09] <yofel> pastebinit history.log -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:09] <yofel> errrr
[20:09] <yofel> pastebinit history.log.1 -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:10] <kamelie1706> sorry I trimmed only the part of today update
[20:10] <yofel> ah
[20:10] <yofel> well, that one looks fine
[20:10] <yofel> you might find a hint to what's wrong in ~/.xsession-errors
[20:11] <kamelie1706> pastebinit /var/log/apt/history.log -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:12] <kamelie1706> !pastebinit /var/log/apt/history.log -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:14] <kamelie1706> yofel: the complete log http://paste.ubuntu.com/859655/ (sorry thought pastebin was irc command getting back to irc after 14 years!)
[20:15] <yofel> kamelie1706: hm, nothing recent that would cause this.
[20:16] <yofel> kamelie1706: if you press ctrl+esc, and search for kactivitymanagerd, is it running?
[20:19] <kamelie1706> yofel: maybe something wrong there http://paste.ubuntu.com/859662/
[20:20] <kamelie1706> yofel: errors related to /usr/bin/kactivitymanagerd(2401)
[20:21] <kamelie1706> yofel: found using ps -ef | grep kactivitymanagerd
[20:21] <yofel> then I'm out of ideas, sorry
[20:21] <yofel> anyone else?
[20:25] <Guest87158> !list
[20:37] <kamelie1706> yofel: thanks ... at least I learn some new thing today :-)
[20:49] <darthanubis> anyone here try an upgrade to Kubuntu Precise?
[20:56] <TopGear> Hi Folks. I've got a problem with Amarok. I have quite some gigs of music on my 2nd HDD. I moved everything from that HDD to the Amarok playlist, but it won't migrate the album covers. What do I need to do to have the album covers shown in Amarok?
[21:04] <TopGear> Oh. Working now. Whatever.
[21:35] <jcook_5xdata> anyone know f it possible to have the Im windows pop up in the new KDE telepathy client list in 12.04
[21:38] <ArchangelSe7en> not sure , but Kopete does it afaik
[22:13] <excognac> is there anyway I can automatically copy outputs from the terminal for a while?
[22:13] <excognac> *a way