| TheMuso | Is it just me, or is anybody else unable to click on an icon in the Unity 3D dash and have it activate? | 00:24 |
|---|---|---|
| RAOF | TheMuso: Worked here just now. I do recall that behaviour yesterday, but I was hoping to chalk it up to my built-from-source unity plugin being awkward; it was also crashing like mad. | 00:29 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: Hrm ok. This is after updating to latest packages and a reboot this morning... | 00:43 |
| RAOF | I'm running cleaner stuff now, and it's working. For now! :) | 00:44 |
| TheMuso | hrm ok | 00:55 |
| RAOF | Bah, multiarch. Stop having conflicting changelog.gz | 01:31 |
| jbicha | RAOF: wasn't that supposed to be fixed? | 01:43 |
| RAOF | jbicha: Which particular problem? Multiarch changelogs sometimes getting into a weird super-awesome conflicty state? | 01:44 |
| jbicha | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=647522 | 01:45 |
| ubot2` | Debian bug 647522 in gzip "gzip -9n is not deterministic" [Normal,Open] | 01:45 |
| RAOF | I'm not sure this was actually the same problem. | 01:47 |
| RAOF | But it might have been. | 01:47 |
| === topdownjimmy is now known as jay-tmt-2 | ||
| === jay-tmt-2 is now known as topdownjimmy2 | ||
| TheMuso | RAOF: Hrm seems things with the dash are working after a reboot. | 02:18 |
| TheMuso | Weird. | 02:18 |
| stgraber | robert_ancell: apparently the new gnome-screensaver doesn't want to let me unlock it... any thought? | 02:28 |
| robert_ancell | stgraber, don't know anything off hand - do you know what version triggered the problem? | 02:29 |
| jbicha | stgraber: caps lock? ....lol | 02:30 |
| stgraber | oh, now that's really odd. 3.2.1 was failing for me since I installed it, so I just reverted to 3.2.0 and it worked fine | 02:30 |
| stgraber | but upgrading again still works | 02:30 |
| stgraber | (obviously killing the gnome-screensaver process) | 02:30 |
| stgraber | jbicha: hehe, I've been unlocking my screensaver from gnome-screensaver-command for a few days now, so believe me, I made sure I'm typing the right password ;) | 02:31 |
| stgraber | though the fact that downgrading/upgrading worked is really odd, maybe one of the binaries got corrupted somehow | 02:31 |
| jbicha | oh, a few days? wow | 02:31 |
| stgraber | jbicha: yeah, been busy with other things and was initially suspecting some PAM issues, though I then confirmed that pam_unix was indeed called and works fine outside of gnome-screensaver | 02:33 |
| stgraber | anyway, the downgrade/upgrade fixed it AFAICS so I'm happy with that | 02:33 |
| stgraber | I have my laptop configured to lock after a minute of inactivty, so switching to tty1 and back to unlock was getting slightly annoying ;) | 02:33 |
| jbicha | 1 minute, that's hardcore | 02:34 |
| stgraber | well, that's the usual time it takes me to loose sight of my laptop when heading somewhere else, so that way I don't have to remember to lock it | 02:38 |
| pitti | Good morning | 06:08 |
| pitti | Laney: OK, I'll seed these two then | 06:08 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: why does libreoffice-gnome not depend on libreoffice-gtk3? | 06:12 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: should we seed -gtk3 explicitly? | 06:12 |
| RAOF | You know what's totally awesome? Writing tests for asynchronous protocol. | 06:41 |
| RAOF | Wait, did I say awesome? I may have meant painful. | 06:41 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:48 |
| RAOF | Hey didrocks, Good morning! | 06:50 |
| didrocks | good morning RAOF ;) | 06:50 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 07:18 |
| pitti | hey RAOF | 07:18 |
| pitti | did you have a nice weekend? | 07:18 |
| didrocks | guten morgen pitti, how are you? | 07:19 |
| didrocks | was a nice week-end here, quite short, but really enjoyable :) | 07:19 |
| pitti | got a cold last Friday, so we had a very quiet weekend; getting better, though | 07:19 |
| didrocks | argh, take care! | 07:19 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: libreoffice-gnome hopefully depends on libreoffice-gtk. libreoffice-gtk3 is still _very_ experimental. | 08:32 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: ah, I see; so it should go into universe for now? (because it wants to) | 08:33 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: yes | 08:34 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: ack, moved | 08:34 |
| ricotz | Sweetshark, hi, could -gtk3 be an alternative to -gtk? meaning "libreoffice-gtk | libreoffice-gtk3" | 08:34 |
| ricotz | pitti, hello | 08:35 |
| Sweetshark | ricotz: well not yet IMHO. it should be there only for the fearless. | 08:35 |
| pitti | hey ricotz, wie gehts? | 08:35 |
| ricotz | Sweetshark, alright ;) | 08:35 |
| ricotz | pitti, danke, gut | 08:35 |
| ricotz | ich hoffe dir auch | 08:35 |
| ricotz | Sweetshark, the build size of libreoffice in ppas is still a huge problem :\ | 08:36 |
| ricotz | pitti, are you able to restart this one https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ppa/+build/3239100 ? | 08:36 |
| Sweetshark | Moin ricotz, pitti, all! | 08:37 |
| RAOF | pitti: I had a very lazy weekend; it was 39C and 37C respectively. That puts a bit of a crimp on attempting to do anything physical! | 08:37 |
| ricotz | pitti, i am not sure when i cancel it if i am able to retry it afterwards | 08:37 |
| pitti | ricotz: yes, I am, but woudl that help anything? | 08:37 |
| pitti | ricotz: yes, you should be able to | 08:37 |
| ricotz | pitti, wgrant said the buildd have different sizes | 08:37 |
| micahg | ricotz: if you cancel a PPA build, you cannot restart it | 08:37 |
| ricotz | so sometimes it works | 08:37 |
| pitti | ah | 08:37 |
| pitti | ricotz: I can help you with building it on a particular buildd, but you need to tell me which | 08:38 |
| ricotz | pitti, oh let me look | 08:38 |
| ricotz | pitti, the previous amd64 build worked fine on rutherfordium (virtual-64) | 08:39 |
| ricotz | https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ppa/+build/3237947 | 08:39 |
| Sweetshark | chrischoulson: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43868 (last three comments) and https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45171 | 08:39 |
| ubot2` | Freedesktop bug 43868 in Libreoffice "FILEOPEN document saved with password: correct password not recognized" [Blocker,Closed: fixed] | 08:39 |
| pitti | ricotz: and you know that promethium will fail? | 08:40 |
| pitti | ricotz: hm, I don't see rutherfordium on https://launchpad.net/builders | 08:41 |
| ricotz | pitti, hmm, i dont know | 08:41 |
| ricotz | https://launchpad.net/builders/rutherfordium | 08:41 |
| pitti | I guess it was taken down again for other purposes | 08:41 |
| Sweetshark | rickspencer3: I read that your LibreOffice works again. What did change? Was it the 3.5.0final upload or did you maybe remove ~/.libreoffice to get it working? | 08:41 |
| rickspencer3 | Sweetshark, dunno, just did a dist-upgrade on Friday, and it started working after that | 08:42 |
| rickspencer3 | Sweetshark, I saw there was a crasher that I had fixed | 08:42 |
| rickspencer3 | so I assumed it was that | 08:42 |
| Sweetshark | rickspencer3: most likely. | 08:42 |
| ricotz | pitti, the lucid amd64 build was smaller by 3gb, so these builder might not -- https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ppa/+build/3239141 | 08:43 |
| ricotz | pitti, hoping the best for promethium ;) | 08:46 |
| ricotz | micahg, thanks for making this clear :) | 08:46 |
| seb128 | hey | 09:00 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 09:00 |
| seb128 | hey pitti, wie gehts? had a good w.e? | 09:00 |
| pitti | seb128: fairly quiet, we didn't do much at all; veery relaxing :) | 09:01 |
| pitti | quite nice after travelling three weekends in a row | 09:01 |
| pitti | and I got a light cold anyway | 09:01 |
| seb128 | pitti, relaxing is good as well indeed ;-) | 09:02 |
| didrocks | salut seb128! | 09:03 |
| seb128 | didrocks, lut, en forme ? | 09:03 |
| didrocks | seb128: ouai, on commence toujours pas un crash Xorg, mais ça va :) | 09:03 |
| didrocks | et toi? | 09:04 |
| seb128 | ca va bien, mon xorg est stable ;-) | 09:04 |
| didrocks | :p | 09:06 |
| seb128 | https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/compiz-core/fix-940139/+merge/94715 waouh: '"DOUBLED the CPU performance of compiz." | 09:06 |
| seb128 | good start of week for compiz ;-) | 09:07 |
| pitti | "Status: Superseded" ? | 09:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/compiz-core/fix-940139/+merge/94728 is the new one it seems | 09:09 |
| seb128 | (was reading from bug emails) | 09:09 |
| pitti | wow indeed! | 09:09 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 09:09 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, will be in this week compiz release :) | 09:10 |
| seb128 | didrocks, excellent | 09:10 |
| didrocks | apparenlty sam had a similar one last cycle but forgot to merge it | 09:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, so, tell me, how frozen is beta? | 09:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, is that worth trying to get the nautilus,zg integration patch from dx in or is that better after beta? | 09:11 |
| seb128 | (the patch does register every file copied to zg) | 09:11 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm not driving this time, not sure if we have another rebuild planned | 09:12 |
| pitti | better coordinate in #u-release | 09:12 |
| pitti | seb128: there's certainly room for a respin still | 09:13 |
| seb128 | well I wouldn't want a respin for that | 09:13 |
| seb128 | I guess I can just upload and then ask there to see if they want to let it in or daly | 09:13 |
| seb128 | delay | 09:13 |
| pitti | right | 09:14 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: will libreoffice-report-builder realistically come back for precise? | 09:19 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: if not, would you mind dropping it from the transitional openoffice.org-report-builder package? (it should just be a "dead" transitional package without dependencies then, to avoid breaking upgrades) | 09:19 |
| Sweetshark | for precise -- no it wont. | 09:21 |
| * Sweetshark adds todo. | 09:21 | |
| pitti | thanks | 09:21 |
| Sweetshark | chrisccoulson: chris, old friend! | 09:29 |
| tkamppeter_ | pitti, hi | 09:29 |
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| Sweetshark | chrisccoulson: There is the suspicion going on that your latest oneiric firefox update broke LibreOffice! Isnt that a great way to start the week? | 09:30 |
| seb128 | is anyone else having alt-tab or issues? like I run gedit from a command line and doing alt-tab once doesn't send me back to it | 09:31 |
| tjaalton | uh, why oh why was the "switch desktop" shortcut changed. current one doesn't even work right | 09:34 |
| Sweetshark | tjaalton: <flame on> | 09:35 |
| micahg | Sweetshark: bug #? | 09:37 |
| didrocks | seb128: just tried, works here | 09:38 |
| Sweetshark | ricotz: btw, are you on the "libreoffice packaging mailing list"? I get multiple questions because people are missing the 3.4.5 update for oneiric in the ppa now. | 09:38 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: it's just a keybinding change, I would be surprise for it to not work well | 09:38 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ok, I regularly get it, like running dch, alt-tabbing back to the command line and alt-tab goes it my IRC | 09:38 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: but for all the keybinding remarks, please ping JohnLea | 09:38 |
| tjaalton | didrocks: keeping super down brings the shortcut popup in front | 09:39 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, or better than ping, please open bugs | 09:39 |
| didrocks | seb128: hum, not fun, need to have a reproducible test case when you get a chance to unerstand what's going on | 09:39 |
| tjaalton | anyway, was easy to change back.. | 09:39 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: right, known issue, bug opened even before the upload. It's tricky | 09:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yeah, I will try to get one, first step was to see if others get the issue as well ;-) | 09:39 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: will be fixed by a compiz upload and an unity patch | 09:39 |
| tjaalton | didrocks: ok | 09:40 |
| didrocks | seb128: never noticed until now, sorry :( | 09:40 |
| Sweetshark | micahg: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43868 (last three comments) and https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45171, also bug 919659 | 09:40 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 919659 in libreoffice "[Downstream] Can't open/save document or spreadsheet with password" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/919659 | 09:40 |
| ubot2` | Freedesktop bug 43868 in Libreoffice "FILEOPEN document saved with password: correct password not recognized" [Blocker,Closed: fixed] | 09:40 |
| chrisccoulson | Sweetshark, oh, how so? | 09:40 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone :) | 09:40 |
| Sweetshark | chrisccoulson: existing firefox profile+firefox update+LibreOffice-3.4.5 => bad (cant open password protected files anymore) | 09:42 |
| micahg | Sweetshark: we don't use the system nss/nspr for firefox/thunderbird anymore, so LO shouldn't be affected by updates | 09:42 |
| didrocks | good morning chrisccoulson :) | 09:43 |
| Sweetshark | chrisccoulson, micahg: It is not that critical as LibreOffice 3.4.5 is still in proposed. | 09:43 |
| chrisccoulson | hey didrocks | 09:43 |
| Sweetshark | micahg: does system nss maybe still read the profiles (and the updates change/migrate them)? | 09:43 |
| micahg | Sweetshark: not sure | 09:45 |
| Sweetshark | chrisccoulson: on the LibreOffice side, moggi on #libreoffice-dev is doing excellent work on this. But he just went to work, so will be back later maybe. | 09:45 |
| Sweetshark | micahg, chrisccoulson: this bug hits debian, ubuntu and gentoo, but it seems fedora/opensuse are spared by it. | 09:46 |
| ricotz | Sweetshark, hmm, i guess i am not subscribed then (will do), i removed this package in favour of the official one in oneiric, but i see it is still -proposed | 09:52 |
| Sweetshark | ricotz: yes and bug 873702 hits the builds to oneiric-proposed, but _not_ the ones in the ppa. So people were happily using the ppa and will not be happy with the same version in proposed. | 09:55 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 873702 in libreoffice "some function names in Calc appear in english others in local language (mixed up) " [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873702 | 09:55 |
| asac | didrocks: hello ... got latest upgrades this morning and ctrl+alt+cursor-keys is broken to move around workspaces :/ | 09:56 |
| Sweetshark | ricotz: why that bug only hits builds to proposed/main, but not ppas is *cough* "interesting" ... | 09:56 |
| asac | didrocks: it doesnt do anything | 09:56 |
| didrocks | asac: it's not broken, it has been reaffected :) | 09:56 |
| Sweetshark | ricotz: it is exactly the same source package | 09:56 |
| * didrocks is giving the same answer for the 20th time | 09:56 | |
| asac | didrocks: what does that mean? | 09:57 |
| didrocks | on IRC, email :) | 09:57 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: having fun yet? ;) | 09:57 |
| didrocks | asac: design changed the shortcut | 09:57 |
| asac | didrocks: whats the shortcut? | 09:57 |
| asac | now? | 09:57 |
| didrocks | asac: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1jqeKtIJwqLtl58Wk_fqjr9Rrgxn9zsouCYOo-cZsLSE/edit | 09:57 |
| didrocks | asac: please, address any complain to JohnLea :) | 09:57 |
| * didrocks changed back the shortcuts finally after trying for 5 days | 09:58 | |
| seb128 | asac, bug #940085 | 09:58 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 940085 in compiz "12.04, Compiz Wall plugin default shortcut keys are incorrect" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/940085 | 09:58 |
| asac | didrocks: how can i switch workspaces now :) | 09:58 |
| asac | i need to do that | 09:59 |
| asac | if i cannot do that i am lost :( | 09:59 |
| asac | well ... can move all apps to one workspace again | 09:59 |
| didrocks | asac: on the documentation, it's Shift + super + arrowss | 09:59 |
| ricotz | Sweetshark, i see, there are two huge differences the ppa doesnt build against the -propose pocket, and it depends on ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/ppa ! | 09:59 |
| didrocks | asac: to move a window on another ws, it's Super + alt + arrows | 09:59 |
| asac | hah | 09:59 |
| mpt | erg | 09:59 |
| asac | when i press that | 09:59 |
| asac | i even get the shortcut keys documentation | 09:59 |
| asac | while switching | 09:59 |
| seb128 | right, "known bug" | 09:59 |
| didrocks | asac: yeah, known issue | 09:59 |
| asac | seems its double occupied | 09:59 |
| asac | in this case it was good :) | 10:00 |
| asac | hehe | 10:00 |
| seb128 | asac, got to the control center and put it back to what you want and comment on the bug | 10:00 |
| asac | so whats the rational? | 10:00 |
| asac | just random ergonomics? | 10:00 |
| seb128 | there is no point to flood #ubuntu-desktop with it, it's a design,dx decision | 10:00 |
| asac | like shift+super is in average better to type | 10:00 |
| didrocks | asac: Super is wanted to be the "central point of switching" | 10:00 |
| seb128 | asac, I think the basis is that they want to make all the standard keybindings super based | 10:00 |
| mpt | Super based? Like Nick Minaj? | 10:00 |
| asac | if i think about my real keyboard where the super key is like exposited very far outside | 10:00 |
| asac | its not better | 10:00 |
| mpt | Nicki Minaj, rather | 10:01 |
| seb128 | asac, i.e always do super-<something> | 10:01 |
| seb128 | mpt, lol | 10:01 |
| asac | didrocks: well ... making super key the central point of switching is not so nice | 10:01 |
| asac | because on my real keyboard its not a central key | 10:01 |
| didrocks | asac: I'm not supportive of the change for the record | 10:01 |
| asac | well | 10:01 |
| seb128 | asac, well as said better to comment on a but, we all basically agree here and the discussion is not very useful | 10:01 |
| asac | i think it makes sense | 10:01 |
| asac | somewhat | 10:01 |
| didrocks | but something that you need to convince design on | 10:01 |
| asac | but only if there were keyboard manufacturers | 10:01 |
| seb128 | but->bug | 10:01 |
| asac | that listened and made ubuntu keys :) | 10:01 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 10:02 |
| didrocks | I tried for 5 days, didn't get accustomed to it and made my arms feeling pain | 10:02 |
| seb128 | asac, maybe it's a first step, make the key actual special | 10:02 |
| seb128 | then we can convince them we need an ubuntu logo on it ;-) | 10:02 |
| asac | and then i have to send in my keyboard so they can make it a centrally located key | 10:02 |
| * didrocks would have been happy with Ctrl + Super on his keyboard TBH | 10:02 | |
| didrocks | Shift + super is quite painful | 10:03 |
| asac | let me show you | 10:03 |
| asac | thing is ... the ctrl+alt+cursor doesnt do anything now | 10:03 |
| asac | so it could have been preserved | 10:03 |
| asac | as legacy | 10:03 |
| Sweetshark | ricotz: well, there is nothing in of relevance in ubuntu-toolchain-r for oneiric it seems to me. And we had the same issue waaay back with 3.4.4 -- fine in the ppa, broken in proposed. I dont think there is a broken package in proposed for that long. | 10:04 |
| didrocks | asac: compiz doesn't support multiple key for the same action | 10:04 |
| Sweetshark | ricotz: or is it? hmmmm. | 10:04 |
| asac | didrocks: thats odd | 10:06 |
| asac | didrocks: is itusing a key/key hashmap rather than key/value? | 10:06 |
| asac | hehe | 10:06 |
| asac | why do yuou need a unique way from actkion to key? | 10:07 |
| didrocks | talk to upstream please ;) | 10:07 |
| * didrocks has already more than 12 hours of work to do today | 10:07 | |
| ricotz | Sweetshark, building against "gnutls26 - 2.12.11-1" rather than 2.10.5-1ubuntu3 looks like a difference to me | 10:08 |
| seb128 | didrocks, stop replying to random channels IRC comment and get to work! ;-) | 10:09 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, I stop replying to your questions on #ubuntu-unity :p | 10:09 |
| seb128 | didrocks, good first step ;-) | 10:09 |
| didrocks | seb128: I propose that you switch the nautilus + quicklist work with the nux blacklist :p | 10:10 |
| seb128 | lol, no thanks :p | 10:10 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: stop whining and write down how awesome I am at | 10:10 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I'm looking to the nautilus zg stuff to start | 10:10 |
| seb128 | let's see what I can do next | 10:10 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BjoernMichaelsen/YourDeveloperApplication now that you did sponsor an upload for me ;) | 10:10 |
| asac | wasnt there a feature to make ctrl+alt the super key | 10:11 |
| BigWhale | Greetings. So, is it safe to select download while updating and install 3rd party software with precise? Is this fuxed yet? | 10:11 |
| asac | very down on the low level for old keyboards tha dont have super? | 10:11 |
| BigWhale | err fixed. | 10:11 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: well, an upload is not sufficent for a testimonial :) | 10:11 |
| didrocks | seb128: see, you pick your priorities! that's mean :) | 10:11 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: does money help? | 10:11 |
| seb128 | asac, you can look in gnome-control-center, layout, the option button in the bottom right corner | 10:12 |
| micahg | Sweetshark: I think he's volunteering for more uploads :) | 10:12 |
| seb128 | asac, that has all the low level xorg options stuff | 10:12 |
| asac | thx | 10:12 |
| asac | let me check | 10:12 |
| Sweetshark | micahg: indeed | 10:13 |
| seb128 | ups | 10:26 |
| BigWhale | seb128, what's this ex-chat you people are using? :) | 10:31 |
| seb128 | BigWhale, it's an IRC client, why? | 10:31 |
| seb128 | well I use xchat-gnome | 10:31 |
| seb128 | sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome | 10:32 |
| BigWhale | Oh... I didn't realize that xchat had such signoff... :> I'm using it too. | 10:32 |
| chrisccoulson | nice, http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-57385616-78/telefonica-mozillaphone-costs-10-times-less-than-an-iphone/ | 10:35 |
| chrisccoulson | when can i get one??! :-) | 10:35 |
| seb128 | want a crappy phone? ;-) | 10:36 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: ricotz just had an interesting idea about the calc formula l10n bug. unknown to me, the ppa had a dep on the toolchain ppa from ancient natty times. this could be the difference why it does not work in -proposed, but does in the ppa. | 10:37 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: the build log should tell you which gcc/ld/etc. version it uses? | 10:38 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, seems like those a semi-smart-phone, a samsung phone with bada is probably around the same | 10:38 |
| BigWhale | hmmm... my mouse just became unresponsive on my new laptop ... in 12.04. is this known bug? : | 10:39 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I've one, I can tell you it's feeling far from a smart phone experience, even if you can do stuff like browse the web etc | 10:39 |
| dholbach | hiya | 10:43 |
| dholbach | can somebody have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/884366? | 10:44 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 884366 in unity-greeter "Theme is not customizable by downstream (derivative) distros" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:44 |
| seb128 | dholbach, hey, I guess that's one for robert_ancell or mterry, but they are both not working at this time | 10:45 |
| dholbach | ok, I hope I remember it later on and give them a prod :) | 10:46 |
| dholbach | seb128, when is the next gnome release due? | 10:46 |
| seb128 | I will try to ping them, I looked at it before but I just hate conffiles handling | 10:46 |
| dholbach | I was wondering how you'd feel about pushing bug 933710 now so it can be properly tested | 10:46 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 933710 in gnome-desktop3 "Laptops with eDP panels do not suspend when lid closed" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933710 | 10:46 |
| chrisccoulson | dholbach, please do :) | 10:47 |
| chrisccoulson | i can test that too | 10:47 |
| seb128 | dholbach, I can sponsor that now if you want | 10:47 |
| chrisccoulson | i have one of those displays | 10:47 |
| dholbach | seb128, as you like it - I can do it too | 10:48 |
| seb128 | same here I think, but I never suspended on lid close :p | 10:48 |
| dholbach | I just ran across it | 10:48 |
| seb128 | dholbach, let me do it, thanks | 10:48 |
| dholbach | rock and roll | 10:48 |
| seb128 | dholbach, I just finished what I was doing | 10:48 |
| seb128 | thanks for pointing it | 10:48 |
| * dholbach hugs you all | 10:48 | |
| * seb128 hugs dholbach | 10:48 | |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i hope that mozilla's platform is a bit better than bada btw ;) | 10:58 |
| chrisccoulson | and it already looks like it is, from what i saw when i saw it demoed | 10:58 |
| chrisccoulson | http://www.openwebdevice.com/ ;) | 10:58 |
| chrisccoulson | "This is a 100% open project where, for instance, operators and OEMs can actively and openly contribute to the code, instead of Mozilla developing internally and making code drops available." | 10:59 |
| chrisccoulson | lol, i wish some other people did that too ;) | 10:59 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, right, I just doubt that for 50€ you can get as good hardware that a galaxy or iphone | 11:00 |
| seb128 | it's like the cost of the device production with the material they use | 11:00 |
| seb128 | stuff like the screen, cpu etc are no that cheap | 11:00 |
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| chrisccoulson | hopefully it will end up some decent devices :) | 11:00 |
| seb128 | I would have prefered a decent phone for half the price | 11:00 |
| seb128 | rather than a cheap phone ;-) | 11:01 |
| seb128 | but yeah, let's see | 11:01 |
| seb128 | I'm sure that has potential on markets where people can't afford expensive smart phones though | 11:02 |
| xclaesse | hmm, ctr-alt-up/down does not work anymore in gnome-shell to switch workspace | 11:03 |
| xclaesse | in ubuntu precise | 11:04 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, change the keybindings in the control center | 11:04 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, we changed the default to be super-shift rather than ctrl-alt | 11:04 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, btw while you are there, where did the "revert ctrl-del keybinding" changes you commit for nautilus were discussed? | 11:05 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, it would be nice to add some context in the commits, especially after ui freeze | 11:05 |
| xclaesse | they always said the correct fix is the undo, it's now done, I reverted the poor workaround | 11:06 |
| xclaesse | as everyone asked on bugzilla | 11:06 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, did you get an ack from maintainers? where was it discussed ? | 11:06 |
| xclaesse | not as if they asked to make that in the first place | 11:06 |
| seb128 | well "they" are the maintainers, they don't need to ask to do changes to what they maintain... | 11:07 |
| xclaesse | they did it after freeze without approval, in previous cycle | 11:07 |
| seb128 | still, it's like random people want and commited to empathy without asking you or another maintainer | 11:08 |
| seb128 | that feels weird | 11:08 |
| seb128 | let's see if one the maintainers actually complain ;-) | 11:08 |
| xclaesse | I don't think they use nautilus | 11:08 |
| xclaesse | they surely use "rm" to delete a file | 11:08 |
| xclaesse | otherwise they would have found immediately that ctr-del is too dangerous with shift-del just next to it | 11:09 |
| seb128 | or they use dnd or the context menu | 11:09 |
| seb128 | well anyway I was asking because I looked to the commit to see where it was discussed, i.e bug report or other reference | 11:10 |
| seb128 | and I wondered if you meant to commit that to master or rather to another vcs and you screwed up | 11:10 |
| seb128 | seems you meant it ;-) | 11:10 |
| xclaesse | I did not discuss it, other than around a beer with fredp :p | 11:11 |
| xclaesse | they won't listen anyway | 11:11 |
| xclaesse | so I just did it | 11:11 |
| seb128 | right | 11:11 |
| xclaesse | to see what happens | 11:11 |
| seb128 | it's often not the way to get what you want | 11:11 |
| seb128 | but let's see | 11:11 |
| seb128 | I've the popcorn ready :p | 11:11 |
| xclaesse | seb128, the bug is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648658 | 11:12 |
| ubot2` | Gnome bug 648658 in File and Folder Operations "Change the Ctrl+del key back to Del and use notifications instead" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] | 11:12 |
| xclaesse | seb128, what's the rational for changing to shift-super-up/down btw? is that an ubuntu-specific change? | 11:15 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, yes, it's ubuntu specific, and I think the rational is to have all the standard keybindings based around the super key | 11:16 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, easier for new users, though confusing for old users, we still discuss how to deal with that | 11:16 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, it's easy enough to change back in the control center for now while we sort it ouy | 11:16 |
| xclaesse | seb128, hmm, ok... | 11:17 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, i officially hate patches to CSS | 11:42 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I though you hated any patches ;-) | 11:44 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i especially hate CSS patches | 11:45 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, btw do you still plan to look at g-s-d login time this cycle? | 11:45 |
| chrisccoulson | the problem with those is that they tend to end up being one huge chunk, which means that a single character change anywhere in the file causes the entire patch to fail to apply | 11:45 |
| chrisccoulson | we get that frequently with thunderbird | 11:45 |
| seb128 | on my e6410 there is a gap of almost 3 seconds between g-s-d starts and anything else starts | 11:45 |
| chrisccoulson | and Cimi thinks he's going to be distro-patching changes to the firefox theme | 11:46 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, seems similar to glade patches :p | 11:46 |
| chrisccoulson | over my dead body ;) | 11:46 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah | 11:46 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, i still plan to look at login time | 11:46 |
| chrisccoulson | has it regressed on your laptop then? | 11:46 |
| chrisccoulson | i haven't checked mine recently | 11:46 |
| seb128 | not sure | 11:47 |
| seb128 | I've this 3 seconds gap | 11:47 |
| seb128 | but during that time xorg is busy with a pink color bar | 11:48 |
| seb128 | I've a monitors.xml for my config as well | 11:48 |
| seb128 | I need to test without a stored config | 11:48 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, sounds like display probing again ;) | 11:48 |
| seb128 | could be | 11:48 |
| chrisccoulson | this is a typical css patch btw. is this what glade patches look like too? http://paste.ubuntu.com/859061/ | 11:49 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: glade patches are worse as they are a real tree | 11:51 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 11:53 |
| chrisccoulson | sounds fun ;) | 11:53 |
| Sweetshark | chrisccoulson: please say hi to moggi_work, the guy running down the mozilla/libreoffice issue. | 12:10 |
| moggi_work | chrisccoulson: Sweetshark: hey | 12:12 |
| moggi_work | my current assumption is that we have a problem with the new firefox/thunderbird profile | 12:13 |
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| === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch | ||
| BigWhale | Why are hotkeys for moving around the desktop remapped? It used to be Meta-Arrows, now it is Super-Arrow. It results in a few weird effects because super is also used for dash and launcher... :> | 13:12 |
| BigWhale | ... hmm Meta is now used for HUD ... | 13:13 |
| rye | BigWhale, re: super behavior for dash/launcher - bug #940198 | 13:18 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 940198 in unity "Help screen activates when switching desktops (dup-of: 939521)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/940198 | 13:18 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 939521 in unity-distro-priority "Shortcut overlay appears even if you Super + another key" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939521 | 13:18 |
| seb128 | you guys, can you move those discussions to #ubuntu-unity? | 13:20 |
| seb128 | it's like 5 times we have the keybindings discussion now, it's enough spamming of this channel for dx changes ;-) | 13:21 |
| seb128 | thanks | 13:21 |
| BigWhale | Sorry. I'm just semi-present today. :) | 13:21 |
| didrocks | seb128: in fact 5+3 for when you weren't there :p | 13:22 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ;-) | 13:22 |
| seb128 | well anyway let's not discuss keybindings anymore here and just redirect to #ubuntu-unity | 13:22 |
| didrocks | +1 | 13:24 |
| didrocks | (+8 even ;)) | 13:24 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, bug 936629 is an Apport permission problem, can you have a look into it? | 13:47 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 936629 in cups "Printing fails after printing first document " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/936629 | 13:47 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: yes, it's on my radar | 13:48 |
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| kamstrup | Anyone know what happened to the bzr-rewrite plugin? It just has an empty package in precise | 14:04 |
| seb128 | kamstrup, seems micahg broke it | 14:09 |
| seb128 | kamstrup, i.e packaging error | 14:09 |
| seb128 | kamstrup, can you open a bug? | 14:09 |
| kamstrup | seb128: thanks - was wondering if had a broken setup and was merely seeing some transitional package. Will open a bug | 14:09 |
| seb128 | kamstrup, thanks | 14:10 |
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| seb128 | kamstrup, you can probably wget http://cdn.debian.net/debian/pool/main/b/bzr-rewrite/bzr-rewrite_0.6.2+bzr242-1_all.deb and dpkg -i it | 14:11 |
| seb128 | kamstrup, if you want a local fix meanwhile | 14:11 |
| kamstrup | seb128: thanks | 14:12 |
| seb128 | kamstrup, yw | 14:20 |
| seb128 | lol | 14:23 |
| seb128 | I knew that this nautilus revert without approval would lead to discussion ;-) | 14:23 |
| didrocks | seb128: oh, where? | 14:29 |
| seb128 | didrocks, #gnome-hackers | 14:30 |
| didrocks | ah :) | 14:30 |
| desrt | DBO: hey? | 15:43 |
| desrt | who is michael hruby? | 15:45 |
| * desrt notes that http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/bamf/trunk/revision/446 broke bamf due to some (apparent?) bad merge conflict resolution | 15:48 | |
| chrisccoulson | desrt, i guess that is mhr3 ;) | 15:53 |
| desrt | mhr3: you broke bamf :) | 15:54 |
| mhr3 | desrt, i did what? | 15:54 |
| desrt | mhr3: see url above ^^ | 15:54 |
| desrt | plz fix :) | 15:54 |
| * Sweetshark is going slightly mad debugging bug 562027 ... | 15:55 | |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 562027 in libreoffice "[Upstream] Unable to shutdown / reboot / logout when quickstarter is active" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/562027 | 15:55 |
| mhr3 | desrt, the removal of that one line doesn't seem right | 15:55 |
| desrt | DBO: are you sure this commit is correct: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/bamf/trunk/revision/366 ? | 15:56 |
| desrt | DBO: i think you only own one ref, but you are dropping 2. | 15:56 |
| desrt | oh. read it wrong. disregard. | 15:57 |
| * desrt wonders wtf is going on here | 15:57 | |
| desrt | this is showing up in valgrind, which i find quite odd... ref() unref() should not be causing a free.... | 15:58 |
| * desrt digs into closed signal handler | 15:59 | |
| mhr3 | desrt, so what exactly did i break? | 16:01 |
| mhr3 | afaict i properly merged it - see https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/bamf/bamf.export-pid/+merge/93140 | 16:02 |
| desrt | mhr3: there was a line in the header dropped by the merge | 16:02 |
| desrt | the utf8 property getter | 16:02 |
| mhr3 | desrt, if that wasn't supposed to be removed blame the merge i pasted | 16:04 |
| mhr3 | i just re-merged it after making a tarball | 16:04 |
| desrt | mhr3: i'm afraid my bzr-fu is not up to snuff | 16:04 |
| desrt | you're saying this is macro's fault? | 16:04 |
| desrt | Trevinho: poke | 16:05 |
| mhr3 | desrt, no, marco just approved it, it was jason's branch | 16:05 |
| desrt | perplexing.... | 16:05 |
| * desrt doesn't see his name here anywhere | 16:05 | |
| desrt | mhr3: do you have access to fix it? | 16:06 |
| mhr3 | desrt, yea, need to merge propose it though, otherwise didrocks would kill me | 16:08 |
| didrocks | mhr3: do I need that particular reason to do so? :) | 16:08 |
| mhr3 | and it looks like i'm pretty close to getting killed by him :P | 16:08 |
| * didrocks looks at the pile of prooves against mhr3 on his desk :) | 16:09 | |
| desrt | didrocks: bzr messed up a merge and deleted a line of code by accident | 16:09 |
| desrt | didrocks: it needs to be added back | 16:09 |
| didrocks | desrt: yeah yeah, it's all bzr's fault! :) | 16:09 |
| didrocks | desrt: which one? | 16:09 |
| desrt | didrocks: i prefer to blame tools than coworkers :) | 16:09 |
| desrt | see https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/bamf/bamf.export-pid/+merge/93140 | 16:09 |
| desrt | 65 -gchar * bamf_window_get_utf8_prop (BamfWindow *self, const char* prop); | 16:10 |
| desrt | 66 +guint32 bamf_window_get_pid (BamfWindow *self); | 16:10 |
| didrocks | desrt: but but, tools are your best friends! :) | 16:10 |
| desrt | that should have been a straight add -- not a replace | 16:10 |
| didrocks | mhr3: you almost break ABI! :) | 16:10 |
| desrt | didrocks: not his fault! remember: blame bzr ;) | 16:11 |
| didrocks | oh right | 16:11 |
| didrocks | bad bad bzr :p | 16:11 |
| * didrocks rethinks of some sentence "if you cherry-pick this patch for the release, you will assume the consequence" :) | 16:11 | |
| mhr3 | didrocks, damn it, i should have left you do the tarball and the blame could be on you :P | 16:11 |
| didrocks | fortunatly, he has chosen the safe side! :) | 16:11 |
| didrocks | mhr3: heh, that what you get from helping! | 16:12 |
| didrocks | that's* | 16:12 |
| desrt | maybe we blame lp, actually | 16:12 |
| * desrt got bitten by a similar bug recently | 16:12 | |
| desrt | i had a working branch, pushed it | 16:13 |
| desrt | ted setup an MR | 16:13 |
| mhr3 | didrocks, so, can i push it directly or do we want a merge? | 16:13 |
| desrt | and somehow the MR ended up with a conflicted merge in it | 16:13 |
| didrocks | mhr3: no, push it directly | 16:13 |
| didrocks | mhr3: all this branch foo was already manual | 16:13 |
| didrocks | mhr3: oh no | 16:13 |
| didrocks | mhr3: sorry, propose a merge | 16:13 |
| didrocks | mhr3: so that it's pushed to the ppa | 16:13 |
| mhr3 | and you'll want test then, right? | 16:13 |
| didrocks | mhr3: self approve it | 16:13 |
| mhr3 | i'm sooo not writing them :P | 16:13 |
| didrocks | mhr3: fine for this once ;) | 16:14 |
| desrt | test: grep for bamf_window_get_utf8_prop in the header. is it there?: test passes! | 16:14 |
| didrocks | but shhhhhhh, don't tell anybody | 16:14 |
| didrocks | in addition, not to an IRC channel | 16:14 |
| desrt | :) | 16:14 |
| didrocks | we are only the three of us, that's fine :) | 16:14 |
| mhr3 | especially not a logged one | 16:14 |
| didrocks | right, so "shhhhhhhh" :-) | 16:14 |
| desrt | for google: ubuntu canonical bamf unity test merge bzr "no test" "without test" didrocks approved autolanding | 16:15 |
| ricotz | seb128, hello, was staying evolution 3.2.x a decision made by the lack of time and man-power or were there serious stability concerns? | 16:15 |
| didrocks | desrt: dude, I really hate you sometimes :p | 16:15 |
| seb128 | ricotz, hey, at UDS time they announced that they would port it to gsettings and webkit this cycle, and knowing evolution there is no way that would result in a stable version | 16:16 |
| seb128 | ricotz, so we stayed behind | 16:16 |
| seb128 | ricotz, did they back out from it? | 16:16 |
| desrt | didrocks: just trolling to keep my sanity :) | 16:16 |
| didrocks | desrt: I'm clearly seeing that ;) | 16:16 |
| * desrt attempts to sort out what the hell is going on inside bamffactory | 16:16 | |
| ricotz | seb128, i think the gsettings transitions was done, not sure about the webkit one | 16:17 |
| BigWhale | office time ends! yay! | 16:17 |
| ricotz | seb128, but there are requests to have it updated to 3.3 | 16:17 |
| seb128 | ricotz, that's risky and impact on stuff like indicator-datetime | 16:17 |
| seb128 | ricotz, so not for this cycle | 16:17 |
| ricotz | seb128, the problem is most likely the e-d-s transition | 16:18 |
| ricotz | seb128, is there anything else serious besides indicator-datetime? | 16:19 |
| mhr3 | didrocks, i updated https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/bamf/bamf.export-pid/+merge/93140 | 16:20 |
| mhr3 | didrocks, now let's see how the merge bot will handle it ;) | 16:21 |
| * mhr3 prepares popcorn | 16:21 | |
| seb128 | ricotz, evo is not a trivial codebase, we need to test migrations, and by experience it takes them 2 cycles to get things working as good as before after such transition | 16:22 |
| seb128 | ricotz, there is no way we do that transition now | 16:23 |
| didrocks | mhr3: if something bad happens, it won't be the merger/my fault. It will be launchpad/bzr | 16:23 |
| didrocks | mhr3: I learnt that from the best, desrt! :) | 16:23 |
| desrt | :D | 16:23 |
| desrt | mhr3: are you doing general hacking on bamf? | 16:23 |
| mhr3 | didrocks, you're a quick learner... but it needs your approve ;) | 16:23 |
| desrt | mhr3: if so, and you have some time, i have a fun bug that really really needs tracking down | 16:24 |
| mhr3 | desrt, no, i just did a tarball cause didrocks was swamped | 16:24 |
| ricotz | seb128, ok, thanks, i will forward this | 16:24 |
| desrt | ah. i see. | 16:24 |
| seb128 | ricotz, thanks | 16:24 |
| ricotz | seb128, i am hoping nothing will bump its dependencies on e-d-s 3.3 | 16:24 |
| desrt | http://fpaste.org/H9Oz/ demonstrates a bug in refcounting in bamf | 16:24 |
| mhr3 | desrt, jason or Trevinho are your people ;) | 16:25 |
| seb128 | ricotz, it's past feature freeze, I doubt it | 16:25 |
| desrt | DBO, Trevinho: ^^ | 16:25 |
| ricotz | seb128, hoping so ;) | 16:25 |
| desrt | if you close a window that was open at the time the program started you get a critical (or crash if under valgrind) | 16:25 |
| Daviey | Has anyone reported losing right click ability on synaptic touchpads? | 16:32 |
| Sarvatt | Daviey: on a mac touchpad? | 16:34 |
| Sarvatt | aka 2 finger press as a right click not actually clicking the right button? | 16:34 |
| Sarvatt | if so then yes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/941046 | 16:34 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 941046 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Recent "clickpad patch" breaks two-finger-right-click" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:34 |
| Sweetshark | can anyone confirm if bug 562027 is currently visible on precise? I cant reproduce reproduce it on oneiric and on my precise-VM the only thing that disturbs the logout is the crash reporter popping back into it. | 16:44 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 562027 in libreoffice "[Upstream] Unable to shutdown / reboot / logout when quickstarter is active" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/562027 | 16:44 |
| pitti | good night everyone! | 17:10 |
| Trevinho | desrt, mhr3: I look to that | 17:10 |
| seb128 | 'night pitti | 17:11 |
| didrocks | good night pitti | 17:14 |
| desrt | Trevinho: i filed a bug with a fix here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bamf/+bug/942070 | 17:19 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 942070 in bamf "bamf matcher messes up refcounting on views" [Undecided,New] | 17:19 |
| desrt | not 100% sure of the fix, but it makes sense to me and it fixes the problem | 17:22 |
| DBO | desrt, can you explain the problem in more detail | 17:40 |
| mhr3 | desrt, is gdbusproxy thread-safe? | 17:40 |
| desrt | DBO: "run the attached code and observe criticals" | 17:40 |
| desrt | mhr3: i think that doesn't really make sense | 17:40 |
| desrt | things that fire signals really need to be owned by a single thread | 17:41 |
| desrt | ie: the thread that the signals will be delivered to | 17:41 |
| desrt | beyond that, there are varying degrees of what could be classified as threadsafety. which one did you have in mind? | 17:41 |
| mhr3 | desrt, so using it from a gio thread is not a good idea? :) | 17:41 |
| desrt | i'd guess probably not... | 17:42 |
| desrt | like, it's definitely safe to have multiple proxies in use in different threads at the same time | 17:42 |
| desrt | but i don't think it makes snese to use a gdbusproxy from a thread other than its 'owner' thread | 17:43 |
| desrt | which we actually define in terms of the thread that owns the GMainContext that was the thread-default main context in effect at the time that the gdbusproxy was created | 17:43 |
| desrt | (which for all intents and purposes is the thread in which it was created) | 17:44 |
| mhr3 | thought so, just wanted to have a confirmation from people who know for sure :) | 17:45 |
| DBO | desrt, yeah I think you are right | 17:46 |
| Trevinho | desrt: I agree :) | 17:47 |
| mhr3 | DBO, any idea what would cause bamf to think that my devhelp window isn't on my current workspace even if it is? | 17:47 |
| Trevinho | Actually I've seen that reffing thing since long time, but I'm not sure why DBO put it inside :) | 17:47 |
| desrt | does that mean you'll write the tests for me to get it committed? :) | 17:48 |
| DBO | mhr3, do you have latest unity trunk? | 17:48 |
| mhr3 | DBO, no, i'm running 5.4 | 17:48 |
| DBO | Trevinho, the internal reffing? | 17:48 |
| Trevinho | desrt: do a merge request, and see if you can add to the tests we have inb bamf | 17:48 |
| DBO | Trevinho, the matcher shouldn't be reffing but the factory should | 17:48 |
| Trevinho | DBO: the reffing on signal... I mean, it's right... But only if it happens on all cases | 17:49 |
| desrt | the factory is | 17:49 |
| desrt | in a weird roundabout way | 17:49 |
| Trevinho | yes, the factory of course | 17:49 |
| desrt | it's unclear whether the ref is conceptually owned by the list or the hashtable | 17:49 |
| desrt | in reality it's owned by the hashtable | 17:49 |
| desrt | (because the function that removes it from the hashtable calls unref() on it) | 17:49 |
| desrt | but it gets reffed as it's added to the list... | 17:49 |
| DBO | desrt, I simply think of the ref as being owned by the factory, period | 17:49 |
| Trevinho | desrt: the ref should be both owned by the internal list and the factory hashtable | 17:49 |
| desrt | DBO: sounds good to me :) | 17:49 |
| Trevinho | the factory's list has no ownership | 17:49 |
| desrt | Trevinho: well.... it gets removed from the list in a weakref handler | 17:50 |
| desrt | so the list can't own a proper ref or it would never be removed | 17:50 |
| Trevinho | desrt: I mean the cached list of the view (if it's a children) | 17:50 |
| DBO | Trevinho, propose/desrt simply propose a merge | 17:50 |
| * desrt lets the people with more launchpad experience navigate that | 17:50 | |
| DBO | good catch desrt | 17:51 |
| desrt | thanks for the fast feedback | 17:51 |
| micahg | seb128: oops, I thought I checked that, will fix | 18:02 |
| didrocks | time for some exercice! /me waves good evening | 18:02 |
| seb128 | micahg: hey, thanks | 18:02 |
| desrt | DBO: hey. another bug, while we're at it? | 18:02 |
| desrt | DBO: it seems that bamf-view is failing to properly cleanup priv->local_name and priv->local_icon in its dispose() -> leaks | 18:03 |
| DBO | desrt, Trevinho^^ | 18:05 |
| DBO | sorry I cant do it now | 18:05 |
| Trevinho | desrt: really? I tought I added them... | 18:07 |
| desrt | Trevinho: would appear not | 18:08 |
| Trevinho | desrt: yes, you're right | 18:08 |
| desrt | they're showing up in valgrind and i can't find any trace of them in dispose (and there is no finalize) | 18:08 |
| Trevinho | maybe I added them in a branch I didn't push :/ | 18:08 |
| Trevinho | it happens :P | 18:08 |
| * desrt does that a lot :) | 18:08 | |
| * Trevinho fixes it | 18:08 | |
| desrt | thanks | 18:09 |
| * desrt is nearing 0 leaks on the hud-service rewrite | 18:09 | |
| Trevinho | DBO, desrt also approve this: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/bamf/coverity-fix-937398 | 18:09 |
| * desrt is not getting involved with approvals | 18:10 | |
| DBO | Trevinho, done | 18:10 |
| * desrt is scared of didrocks, honestly | 18:10 | |
| DBO | desrt, no worries | 18:10 |
| desrt | the guy knows where i live | 18:10 |
| Trevinho | desrt: about? :) | 18:10 |
| DBO | desrt, hes french | 18:10 |
| desrt | Trevinho: if i approve something that has a bug in it, he kills me, right? :) | 18:11 |
| DBO | desrt, nah thats normally in an employment contract | 18:11 |
| DBO | stupid immune contractors | 18:11 |
| Trevinho | DBO: can be sensed to add an hashtable to cache the xprops in libunity? | 18:29 |
| DBO | Trevinho, no | 18:30 |
| DBO | they might change | 18:30 |
| Trevinho | mh ok | 18:31 |
| Trevinho | I'm dropping some things you left there... | 18:31 |
| Trevinho | DBO, desrt: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/bamf/dispose-fixes/+merge/94824 | 18:39 |
| rickspencer3 | does any one know that trick that pitti told me about how to find which Python module is being and naughty and not using goi? | 18:41 |
| DBO | Trevinho, apporved and marked as such | 18:42 |
| Trevinho | thanks | 18:42 |
| broder | rickspencer3: "echo raise Exception >./gtk.py" would probably work :) | 18:45 |
| rickspencer3 | hey broder | 18:45 |
| rickspencer3 | well, I guess I would have to add that the goi library somewhere, right? | 18:45 |
| broder | a gtk.py in your current directory will supersede the globally installed one | 18:46 |
| broder | then anytime anything tries to import gtk, it'll throw and you get a traceback | 18:46 |
| dobey | i think that's the first time i've seen someone say goi | 18:48 |
| kenvandine | broder, that is a nifty trick | 18:48 |
| dobey | in context of py-gi | 18:48 |
| dobey | rickspencer3: you can play around with sys.modules also | 18:49 |
| rickspencer3 | broder, thanks | 18:53 |
| dobey | meh, and that movie isn't on blu ray yet :-/ | 18:53 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: edit /usr/share/pyshared/gobject/constants.py and add a "raise ImportError('not me!')" at the top | 18:54 |
| * pitti off again, I didn't actually mean to open IRC | 18:54 | |
| rickspencer3 | thanks pitti | 18:54 |
| * rickspencer3 pitti & | 18:54 | |
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| mvo | pitti: hm, bug #930839 - I'm pretty sure that no thread (other than the main one) is touching the UI, sure this is not some gtk problem instead? | 20:15 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 930839 in update-manager "update-manager crashed with SIGABRT in __assert_fail_base(): Assertion !xcb_xlib_unknown_req_in_deq failed in dequeue_pending_request" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930839 | 20:15 |
| jono | what is the latest Unity release version in 12.04? | 20:24 |
| seb128 | jono, you mean the current one of the one we will ship with? | 20:25 |
| dobey | jono: i have 5.4.0-0ubuntu2 it seems | 20:25 |
| jono | seb128, the current version right now in 12.04 | 20:25 |
| seb128 | jono, what dobey says | 20:25 |
| jono | dobey, thanks | 20:25 |
| dobey | sure | 20:26 |
| jono | I just wanted to ensure I am filing bugs against the right version | 20:27 |
| jono | this bug where switching virtual desktops moves the window with focus is driving me nuts | 20:28 |
| dobey | jono: you're using the wrong keybinding. stop holding shift down with ctrl+alt | 20:29 |
| jono | dobey, I mapped it to Ctrl+Alt Arrows | 20:30 |
| jono | dobey, what is the default key-binding for this now? | 20:30 |
| dobey | jono: did you change the wrong setting then? moving a window around workspaces has been c-a-s for a very long time | 20:30 |
| jono | dobey, Ctrl-Alt-Arrow? | 20:30 |
| jono | or Ctrl-Alt-Shift | 20:31 |
| dobey | someone decided to change the change workspaces keybinding to be super-shift-arrow | 20:31 |
| jono | interesting | 20:31 |
| jono | so I re-mapped it to Ctrl-Alt-Arrow | 20:31 |
| jono | and Super-Shift-Arrow still works | 20:31 |
| jono | which is odd | 20:31 |
| dobey | jono: C-A-arrow *was* change workspaces, C-A-S-arrow has been "move current window across workspaces" forever | 20:32 |
| jono | dobey, aha | 20:32 |
| dobey | jono: you probably changed the wrong setting :) | 20:32 |
| * jono checks | 20:32 | |
| dobey | i had this exact same conversation a few hours ago with jdo :P | 20:33 |
| jono | you are right dobey | 20:33 |
| jono | I am an idiot | 20:33 |
| seb128 | lol | 20:33 |
| jono | sorry seb128, I will invalidate the bug | 20:33 |
| jono | it turns out this is epic bacon user error | 20:33 |
| seb128 | jono, no worry | 20:33 |
| dobey | and there is another bug with a bajillion duplicates about keybinding getting changed, i'm sure | 20:34 |
| desrt | aww. seb went to bed. | 20:52 |
| desrt | ==13701== definitely lost: 0 bytes in 0 blocks | 20:54 |
| desrt | ==13701== indirectly lost: 0 bytes in 0 blocks | 20:54 |
| desrt | ==13701== possibly lost: 0 bytes in 0 blocks | 20:54 |
| desrt | ah. the greatest sight there is. | 20:55 |
| chrisccoulson | desrt, oh, that can't be something that we wrote, surely? | 20:55 |
| desrt | chrisccoulson: it's the hud after a round of bugfixing :) | 20:55 |
| chrisccoulson | nice :) | 20:55 |
| desrt | well, the hud-service, that is | 20:55 |
| Sweetshark | desrt: I have another little pet projects of mine at hand, that could use one of your 'rounds of bugfixing' .... | 21:01 |
| * desrt is all rounded up for today | 21:02 | |
| desrt | gotta do real work now :) | 21:02 |
| Sweetshark | desrt: ;) | 21:02 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi, i subscribed you to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpst/+bug/942311 | 23:25 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 942311 in libpst "FFe: Update to libpst 0.6.54" [Undecided,New] | 23:25 |
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