=== smb` is now known as smb === doko_ is now known as doko === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch === Guest37385 is now known as jrgifford === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback === bladernr_afk is now known as bladernr_ === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:00] hello! [16:00] heyhey [16:00] ok let's get started!! [16:00] #startmeeting Ubuntu Friendly meeting [16:00] Meeting started Mon Feb 27 16:00:48 2012 UTC. The chair is roadmr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Ubuntu Friendly meeting Meeting | Current topic: [16:00] This should be a short one [16:01] Hi everyone, welcome to the Ubuntu Friendly meeting! [16:01] Today we have the following topics to talk about: [16:01] * Checkbox 0.13.3 in Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 1 - please help test! (roadmr) [16:01] * Any Other Business [16:01] As usual, you're welcome to participate, to do so, indicate you want to speak by raising your hand (o/). Don't forget to also signal when you're done using .. [16:01] Let's get started with the (rather short) agenda! [16:01] [TOPIC] Checkbox 0.13.3 in Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 1 - please help test! (roadmr) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Ubuntu Friendly meeting Meeting | Current topic: Checkbox 0.13.3 in Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 1 - please help test! (roadmr) [16:02] Checkbox version 0.13.3 was accepted in Ubuntu last Thursday! It contains some interesting bug fixes so if you've been using recent versions of checkbox, be sure to give this one a try. [16:02] Also, 0.13.3 will be included in Precise's Beta 1 release, which is expected to land on Thursday. This is the first milestone where checkbox-qt, rather than checkbox-gtk, will be the default when you run System Testing. [16:03] As such, it would be important to ensure that the checkbox experience is as usable as possible. [16:03] So once again, we'd like to ask for your help in running it and reporting any bugs you may find (by running ubuntu-bug checkbox, for instance). [16:04] This will allow us to continue fixing those bugs in time for the 12.04 release. [16:04] ... OK I guess that's all for this topic! any questions? comments? [16:04] i'm installing beta1 now :) [16:04] * jedimike is upgrading too [16:05] awesome! \o/ [16:05] well do give checkbox a trial run! [16:05] ok if there are no more comments or questions, let's move on to... [16:06] cr3: any comments or questions re: checkbox 0.13.3 in Precise Beta1? [16:06] cr3: sorry to snipe at you but I thought best to ask before we move on to the next topic :) [16:08] ok then.. [16:08] * [TOPIC] Any Other Business [16:08] [TOPIC] Any Other Business === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Ubuntu Friendly meeting Meeting | Current topic: Any Other Business [16:08] (damn asterisk) [16:09] Anything else you'd like to discuss, comment on, or bring to the team's attention? now's your chance! [16:11] nothing? :) [16:11] it's a quiet meeting today.. [16:12] o/ [16:12] cr3: go ahead! [16:12] whee! [16:12] is there a concerted effort for community testing of precise beta1? if so, could we sneak checkbox into the process? [16:12] .. [16:13] cr3: do you mean like iso testing? I think that's coordinated in #ubuntu-testing, we may want to ask there [16:13] sneaking checkbox in ther would be great :) [16:14] roadmr: yes, as part of iso testing would be great [16:15] sounds good [16:15] let's add an [16:15] strictly speaking iso testing only covers installation [16:15] anything else is discretionary [16:15] ok hmm [16:16] brendand: it's not tested until it's checkboxed! [16:16] yes, an additional optional step of "run system testing and submit your results" could produce some useful test data and usage reports on checkbox [16:17] who'd like to drop by #ubuntu-testing and ask whether we're still in time and whether this is indeed possible? [16:18] I wouldn't trust myself to follow up adequately on this one :( [16:19] but if nobody else volunteers, I guess I'll make a best effort [16:19] hehe [16:19] any other volunteers? [16:20] ok I guess you get the tiger :( I'll do my best to follow up on it too [16:20] who would've thought I'd lose by winning :( [16:20] [ACTION] cr3 to inquire in #ubuntu-testing if using checkbox to test something in Beta 1 (which implicitly also tests checkbox!) is possible. [16:20] ACTION: cr3 to inquire in #ubuntu-testing if using checkbox to test something in Beta 1 (which implicitly also tests checkbox!) is possible. [16:21] I like the "test something" part :) [16:21] hehe :) [16:21] yes, it's usually an iguanodon but a tiger is easier to understand [16:21] but I digress... [16:21] ok, any other business? AOB? anyone? :) [16:22] going once, [16:22] going twice, [16:23] sold for two lines of code to the gentleman in the front row! [16:23] Well I guess this wraps things up for today. Thanks for attending! Remember the mailing list is open to all your UF-related comments and inquiries. [16:23] Thanks! have a good day! [16:23] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:23] Meeting ended Mon Feb 27 16:23:33 2012 UTC. [16:23] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-27-16.00.moin.txt [16:23] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-27-16.00.html [16:23] thanks all :) [16:29] roadmr: thanks dude! [17:30] hey ! [17:33] is there someone? [17:33] not while no meeting is running [17:33] i saw :( [17:34] what's up ogra_? [17:36] someone to talk( :/ write)? [17:38] :/ [18:01] \o [18:01] Hello [18:02] hi! [18:02] #startmeeting [18:02] Meeting started Mon Feb 27 18:02:18 2012 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [18:02] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [18:02] The meeting agenda can be found at: [18:02] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting [18:02] [TOPIC] Announcements === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Announcements [18:03] * Andreas Moog (amoog) provided debdiffs for maverick-oneiric for gypsy (LP: #690323) [18:03] * Zubin Mithra (zubin-mithra) provided a debdiff for maverick for dhcpcd (LP: #931036) [18:03] Your work is very much appreciated and will keep Ubuntu users secure. Great job! :) [18:03] [TOPIC] Review of any previous action items === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Review of any previous action items [18:03] * sbeattie sighs [18:03] ACTION: sbeattie to follow up on qrt bugs from QA team [18:03] sbeattie: hehe [18:04] * jdstrand moves along [18:04] [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report [18:04] I'll go first [18:05] last week I was on triage and updated UCT to integrate with Debian's secure-testing even more [18:05] I fixed some bugs in the triage process, so hopefully that will be even better [18:05] tyhicks: let me know if you encounter any bugs [18:06] this week I am on community [18:06] and am patch piloting today [18:06] libxml2 should go out today [18:06] I have not been able to catchup on archive admin deNEWs, or auditing. I'm hopeful I'll get caught up on that this week [18:07] between that and an embargoed issue I am working on, I should be able to get back to reactive work soonish [18:07] that should be it from me [18:07] mdeslaur: you're up [18:08] I've finally pushed out the python-httplib2 updates this morning [18:08] \o/ [18:08] so everything that uses that library should be properly checking server certificates now [18:08] I've uploaded some preliminary mysql updates to the security-proposed PPA [18:09] I've just done basic upgrade testing with them, but haven't run the qa scripts yet, or the exhaustive test suite [18:09] if anyone is interested, testing feedback is appreciated [18:09] once I've tested them, I'll be pushing them to -proposed [18:09] and will send out a public call for testing [18:09] and will release them a week or two after that [18:09] I also have some postgresql updates to build and release [18:10] and will further go down the list if I have time [18:10] I am in the happy place this week [18:10] mdeslaur: re mysql> seems reasonable all things considered. thanks for handling that :) [18:10] that's it from me! [18:10] sbeattie: you're turn [18:10] I'm in the happy place this week, also. [18:10] s/you're/your/ [18:10] * jdstrand declares this "The Week of the Database" [18:11] I'm working on an eglibc update [18:11] also trying to get one last armel openjdk build to occur [18:12] Otherwise, I'm planning on getting to the open apparmor issues I have on my plate. [18:12] sbeattie: can you remind me how we will deal with this going forward? we will do a micro-release update in -proposed that will allow these to build on pandas? [18:12] I think that's it for me. [18:12] sbeattie: do you think you'll get those two done this week? (eglibc and openjdk)? [18:12] (and by 'we', I don't necessarily mean you ;) [18:13] jdstrand: yes, this is the last upstream supported release of icedtea 1.8.x , so we need to transition away from there. [18:14] Although, I do fear that the panda issue is a toolchain or kernel issue (I can reproduce the build failure on the porter, and I get a message in dmesg when it fails) [18:14] ouch [18:14] and that merely moving forward may not solve the issue. [18:15] mdeslaur: this week> yeah, that's the plan. [18:15] sbeattie: if you haven't (istr you have), please forward all your info to doko to see if it is a toolchain issue [18:15] jdstrand: I have not, will do. [18:15] sbeattie: ok, cool...please do your essential work items after those two...if any other updates come up, throw them my way [18:15] okay. [18:16] micahg: I think you're up. [18:16] sbeattie: thanks! :) [18:16] sbeattie: thanks! [18:17] so, I'm working on getting webkit building on stable releases, chromium beta won't even build a source package now, so I'll be looking into that, there's an icedtea regression that affects Firefox 10+ that someone needs to work on, I can take that if sbeattie is working on more pressing things [18:17] micahg: what's the regression? do we have a fix for it? [18:17] mdeslaur: fix was uploaded to precise earlier today [18:18] bug 927282 [18:18] Launchpad bug 927282 in icedtea-web (Ubuntu) "Java crash with icedtea plugin and Firefox 10+" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/927282 [18:18] micahg: ah, yes, could you please take that? [18:18] yes [18:18] micahg: thanks [18:18] micahg: were you able to reproduce the crash? Have you confirmed that the precise version is fixed? [18:19] sbeattie: was able to reproduce the crash in oneiric VM, have not tested the precise fix yet [18:19] I'll test that locally first and then move to build [18:20] so, that's my top priority ATM (icedtea), then chromium beta and webkit as they're both long builds I can work on them in parallel [18:20] micahg: did you work out the OOM stuff? [18:20] micahg: cool [18:20] oh, and powerpc is still broke for Firefox 11, I hope to grab a fix for that so we don't regress the stable releases [18:21] jdstrand: I forgot cyphermox gave me 2 build flags to fix that, I applied them wrong last night and will kick off a build shortly which hopefully will solve the OOM issues as well [18:21] cool [18:21] micahg: btw, is firefox 11 building now on older releases? [18:22] yeah, in the beta PPA (amd64/i386) [18:22] excellent [18:22] I'll have release builds next Friday, but I'd prefer not to wait until release week to fix powerpc [18:23] i.e. March 9 [18:23] upstream is working on it, so it shouldn't be too much effort on my part [18:23] micahg: is the fix known? don't spend too much time on powerpc [18:23] seems reasonable, but be mindful we can pull powerpc in later too if needed (it is no an officially supported arch as you know) [18:24] right [18:24] that's it for me then [18:24] I am in the triage role this week [18:24] micahg: poke me when you get to the openjdk patch and I give you a little guidance there. [18:25] (sorry tyhicks, go ahead) [18:25] np :) [18:26] I really feel like I can get the ruby1.8 update out today. I said that late last week, but the update breaks a number of puppet spec tests. [18:26] tyhicks: did you figure out why? [18:27] I've now found bugs opened in the puppet bug tracker for almost all of the issues, so I am in the process of adding those to the expected failure lists in test-puppet.py and then I'll rerun everything again [18:27] huh [18:27] huh [18:27] mdeslaur: Yeah, hash table list outputs being randomized after fixing the hash table DoS issue [18:27] ah, that would make sense [18:28] ah, yes, that,s a common problem [18:28] * jdstrand has to do something similar with the libxml2 tests [18:28] ok [18:28] After I get that out, I'm going to fix eCryptfs bug #842647 [18:28] Launchpad bug 842647 in eCryptfs "[git] file blocks duplicated at the end of the file" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842647 [18:28] tyhicks: after the meeting, can you paste the output of a test-puppet.py run? [18:28] jdstrand: sure [18:29] I've got a patch that I started on for that eCryptfs bug, I just need to finish it off and get it upstream [18:29] tyhicks: cool...so that would pretty much be the last ecryptfs issue for precise? [18:29] mdeslaur: That bug should probably be retargeted for beta 2. Even if I get it fixed and upstream in the next couple days, I don't think it will make it into the beta1 kernel [18:30] tyhicks: done [18:30] mdeslaur: I still need to quiet down the logging in some error paths (simple fix). I was waiting on the kernel team to decide about turning on CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG and they determined that it increases the kernel size too much. [18:31] tyhicks: just replace all the warnings with "eCryptfs is working fine. No need to file a bug." [18:31] lol [18:31] nice one! [18:31] "This isn't the corruption you are looking for." [18:31] 5 [18:31] o/ [18:31] mdeslaur: Heh... or at least ratelimit a few of printks so that a find command doesn't fill up the hard drive ;) [18:31] :) [18:32] 5 [18:32] \o [18:32] :) [18:32] I've got a few kernel patches I need to review and apply and then I'll get back to my update queue after that [18:32] tyhicks: cool [18:32] that's it for me [18:32] you're up jjohansen [18:33] I am pushing apparmor patches upstream this week and looking into the bugs that we hit on friday when pushing in the 2.8beta into precise. [18:33] That is a minimization bug, an auditing bug, and what looks like it might be a race in the test suite for mount (no bugs #s on those yet /me needs to sync with jdstrand first). [18:33] Beyond that I need to finish up some misc workitems, add more testing to mount rules, look at why overlayfs is causing bug#925028 when attach_disconnected is not used and the task is not in another namespace), and get the latest dbus stuff into a repository so work can begin on that again. [18:33] * tyhicks wonders if jj wrote a bot that watches for me to say 'you're up jjohansen' :) [18:33] jjohansen: cool [18:33] tyhicks: nah I stole the kt bot [18:34] hrmmm I think thats it from me [18:35] jdstrand: back to you [18:35] jjohansen: I think your status report took longer than an entire kernel team meeting... [18:35] jjohansen: so, when do you think you'll be sending your stuff to the kernel team? [18:36] sbeattie: hehe, okay you caught me I didn't use the bot I was just waiting and pasted the text [18:36] mdeslaur: I sent them a pull request friday [18:36] jjohansen: oh, is the minimization issue in user space only? [18:37] mdeslaur: well yes, and no. There is a kernel interface bug it exposed as well that needs to be fixed and pushed [18:37] jjohansen: ok, cool [18:38] [TOPIC] Highlighted packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages [18:38] The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. [18:38] See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. [18:38] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libparallel-forkmanager-perl.html [18:38] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/pyftpd.html [18:39] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/cabextract.html [18:39] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/tesseract.html [18:39] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ayttm.html [18:39] [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions [18:39] Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? [18:44] * mdeslaur hears crickets === jjohansen is now known as creckets === creckets is now known as crickets [18:45] chirp chirp === crickets is now known as jjohansen [18:45] hehe [18:46] jdstrand: fall sleep? :) [18:47] * jdstrand was enjoying the chirping [18:47] chirp chirp [18:47] mdeslaur, sbeattie, micahg, tyhicks, jjohansen: thanks! [18:47] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [18:47] Meeting ended Mon Feb 27 18:47:31 2012 UTC. [18:47] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-27-18.02.moin.txt [18:47] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-27-18.02.html [18:47] thanks jdstrand [18:47] thanks [18:47] thanks jdstrand [18:47] thanks jdstrand [18:47] thanks! [19:07] !dmb-ping [19:07] bdrung, cody-somerville, Laney, micahg, geser, tumbleweed, stgraber: DMB ping [19:07] are we going to meet? [19:07] * tumbleweed changes that factoid [19:12] tumbleweed: how would you want it to be? [19:12] Myrtti: s/geser/barry/ [19:12] Myrtti: no one on the agenda :), just administrative stuff if anything [19:12] oh, that's what you mean :) [19:12] tumbleweed: one moment [19:13] * stgraber waves [19:13] * tumbleweed wonders if these bot admins have hilights on "factoid" [19:14] !dmb-ping > tumbleweed [19:14] tumbleweed, please see my private message [19:14] tumbleweed: no, I just keep my eyes open [19:14] Myrtti: lgtm, thanks [19:15] np === Ursinha_ is now known as Guest34384 === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 === Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker`