[16:00] <roadmr> hello!
[16:00] <jedimike> heyhey
[16:00] <roadmr> ok let's get started!!
[16:00] <roadmr> #startmeeting Ubuntu Friendly meeting
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[16:00] <roadmr> This should be a short one
[16:01] <roadmr> Hi everyone, welcome to the Ubuntu Friendly meeting!
[16:01] <roadmr> Today we have the following topics to talk about:
[16:01] <roadmr> * Checkbox 0.13.3 in Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 1 - please help test! (roadmr)
[16:01] <roadmr> * Any Other Business
[16:01] <roadmr> As usual, you're welcome to participate, to do so, indicate you want to speak by raising your hand (o/). Don't forget to also signal when you're done using ..
[16:01] <roadmr> Let's get started with the (rather short) agenda!
[16:01] <roadmr> [TOPIC] Checkbox 0.13.3 in Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 1 - please help test! (roadmr)
[16:02] <roadmr> Checkbox version 0.13.3 was accepted in Ubuntu last Thursday! It contains some interesting bug fixes so if you've been using recent versions of checkbox, be sure to give this one a try.
[16:02] <roadmr> Also, 0.13.3 will be included in Precise's Beta 1 release, which is expected to land on Thursday. This is the first milestone where checkbox-qt, rather than checkbox-gtk, will be the default when you run System Testing.
[16:03] <roadmr> As such, it would be important to ensure that the checkbox experience is as usable as possible.
[16:03] <roadmr> So once again, we'd like to ask for your help in running it and reporting any bugs you may find (by running ubuntu-bug checkbox, for instance).
[16:04] <roadmr> This will allow us to continue fixing those bugs in time for the 12.04 release.
[16:04] <roadmr> ... OK I guess that's all for this topic! any questions? comments?
[16:04] <brendand> i'm installing beta1 now :)
[16:04]  * jedimike is upgrading too
[16:05] <roadmr> awesome! \o/
[16:05] <roadmr> well do give checkbox a trial run!
[16:05] <roadmr> ok if there are no more comments or questions, let's move on to...
[16:06] <roadmr> cr3: any comments or questions re: checkbox 0.13.3 in Precise Beta1?
[16:06] <roadmr> cr3: sorry to snipe at you but I thought best to ask before we move on to the next topic :)
[16:08] <roadmr> ok then..
[16:08] <roadmr> * [TOPIC] Any Other Business
[16:08] <roadmr> [TOPIC] Any Other Business
[16:08] <roadmr> (damn asterisk)
[16:09] <roadmr> Anything else you'd like to discuss, comment on, or bring to the team's attention? now's your chance!
[16:11] <roadmr> nothing? :)
[16:11] <cr3> it's a quiet meeting today..
[16:12] <cr3> o/
[16:12] <roadmr> cr3: go ahead!
[16:12] <roadmr> whee!
[16:12] <cr3> is there a concerted effort for community testing of precise beta1? if so, could we sneak checkbox into the process?
[16:12] <cr3> ..
[16:13] <roadmr> cr3: do you mean like iso testing? I think that's coordinated in #ubuntu-testing, we may want to ask there
[16:13] <roadmr> sneaking checkbox in ther would be great :)
[16:14] <cr3> roadmr: yes, as part of iso testing would be great
[16:15] <roadmr> sounds good
[16:15] <roadmr> let's add an
[16:15] <brendand> strictly speaking iso testing only covers installation
[16:15] <brendand> anything else is discretionary
[16:15] <roadmr> ok hmm
[16:16] <cr3> brendand: it's not tested until it's checkboxed!
[16:16] <roadmr> yes, an additional optional step of "run system testing and submit your results" could produce some useful test data and usage reports on checkbox
[16:17] <roadmr> who'd like to drop by #ubuntu-testing and ask whether we're still in time and whether this is indeed possible?
[16:18] <cr3> I wouldn't trust myself to follow up adequately on this one :(
[16:19] <cr3> but if nobody else volunteers, I guess I'll make a best effort
[16:19] <roadmr> hehe
[16:19] <roadmr> any other volunteers?
[16:20] <roadmr> ok I guess you get the tiger :( I'll do my best to follow up on it too
[16:20] <cr3> who would've thought I'd lose by winning :(
[16:20] <roadmr> [ACTION] cr3 to inquire in #ubuntu-testing if using checkbox to test something in Beta 1 (which implicitly also tests checkbox!) is possible.
[16:20] <meetingology> ACTION: cr3 to inquire in #ubuntu-testing if using checkbox to test something in Beta 1 (which implicitly also tests checkbox!) is possible.
[16:21] <cr3> I like the "test something" part :)
[16:21] <roadmr> hehe :)
[16:21] <roadmr> yes, it's usually an iguanodon but a tiger is easier to understand
[16:21] <roadmr> but I digress...
[16:21] <roadmr> ok, any other business? AOB? anyone? :)
[16:22] <roadmr> going once,
[16:22] <roadmr> going twice,
[16:23] <roadmr> sold for two lines of code to the gentleman in the front row!
[16:23] <roadmr> Well I guess this wraps things up for today. Thanks for attending! Remember the mailing list is open to all your UF-related comments and inquiries.
[16:23] <roadmr> Thanks! have a good day!
[16:23] <roadmr> #endmeeting
[16:23] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Feb 27 16:23:33 2012 UTC.
[16:23] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-27-16.00.moin.txt
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[16:23] <roadmr> thanks all :)
[16:29] <cr3> roadmr: thanks dude!
[17:30] <thingamagic> hey !
[17:33] <thingamagic> is there someone?
[17:33] <ogra_> not while no meeting is running
[17:33] <thingamagic> i saw :(
[17:34] <thingamagic> what's up ogra_?
[17:36] <thingamagic> someone to talk( :/ write)?
[17:38] <thingamagic> :/
[18:01] <mdeslaur> \o
[18:01] <tyhicks> Hello
[18:02] <jdstrand> hi!
[18:02] <jdstrand> #startmeeting
[18:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Feb 27 18:02:18 2012 UTC.  The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[18:02] <jdstrand> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[18:02] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[18:02] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Announcements
[18:03] <jdstrand> * Andreas Moog (amoog) provided debdiffs for maverick-oneiric for gypsy (LP: #690323)
[18:03] <jdstrand> * Zubin Mithra (zubin-mithra) provided a debdiff for maverick for dhcpcd (LP: #931036)
[18:03] <jdstrand> Your work is very much appreciated and will keep Ubuntu users secure. Great job! :)
[18:03] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Review of any previous action items
[18:03]  * sbeattie sighs
[18:03] <jdstrand> ACTION: sbeattie to follow up on qrt bugs from QA team
[18:03] <jdstrand> sbeattie: hehe
[18:04]  * jdstrand moves along
[18:04] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[18:04] <jdstrand> I'll go first
[18:05] <jdstrand> last week I was on triage and updated UCT to integrate with Debian's secure-testing even more
[18:05] <jdstrand> I fixed some bugs in the triage process, so hopefully that will be even better
[18:05] <jdstrand> tyhicks: let me know if you encounter any bugs
[18:06] <jdstrand> this week I am on community
[18:06] <jdstrand> and am patch piloting today
[18:06] <jdstrand> libxml2 should go out today
[18:06] <jdstrand> I have not been able to catchup on archive admin deNEWs, or auditing. I'm hopeful I'll get caught up on that this week
[18:07] <jdstrand> between that and an embargoed issue I am working on, I should be able to get back to reactive work soonish
[18:07] <jdstrand> that should be it from me
[18:07] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: you're up
[18:08] <mdeslaur> I've finally pushed out the python-httplib2 updates this morning
[18:08] <jdstrand> \o/
[18:08] <mdeslaur> so everything that uses that library should be properly checking server certificates now
[18:08] <mdeslaur> I've uploaded some preliminary mysql updates to the security-proposed PPA
[18:09] <mdeslaur> I've just done basic upgrade testing with them, but haven't run the qa scripts yet, or the exhaustive test suite
[18:09] <mdeslaur> if anyone is interested, testing feedback is appreciated
[18:09] <mdeslaur> once I've tested them, I'll be pushing them to -proposed
[18:09] <mdeslaur> and will send out a public call for testing
[18:09] <mdeslaur> and will release them a week or two after that
[18:09] <mdeslaur> I also have some postgresql updates to build and release
[18:10] <mdeslaur> and will further go down the list if I have time
[18:10] <mdeslaur> I am in the happy place this week
[18:10] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: re mysql> seems reasonable all things considered. thanks for handling that :)
[18:10] <mdeslaur> that's it from me!
[18:10] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: you're turn
[18:10] <sbeattie> I'm in the happy place this week, also.
[18:10] <mdeslaur> s/you're/your/
[18:10]  * jdstrand declares this "The Week of the Database"
[18:11] <sbeattie> I'm working on an eglibc update
[18:11] <sbeattie> also trying to get one last armel openjdk build to occur
[18:12] <sbeattie> Otherwise, I'm planning on getting to the open apparmor issues I have on my plate.
[18:12] <jdstrand> sbeattie: can you remind me how we will deal with this going forward? we will do a micro-release update in -proposed that will allow these to build on pandas?
[18:12] <sbeattie> I think that's it for me.
[18:12] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: do you think you'll get those two done this week? (eglibc and openjdk)?
[18:12] <jdstrand> (and by 'we', I don't necessarily mean you ;)
[18:13] <sbeattie> jdstrand: yes, this is the last upstream supported release of icedtea 1.8.x , so we need to transition away from there.
[18:14] <sbeattie> Although, I do fear that the panda issue is a toolchain or kernel issue (I can reproduce the build failure on the porter, and I get a message in dmesg when it fails)
[18:14] <mdeslaur> ouch
[18:14] <sbeattie> and that merely moving forward may not solve the issue.
[18:15] <sbeattie> mdeslaur: this week> yeah, that's the plan.
[18:15] <jdstrand> sbeattie: if you haven't (istr you have), please forward all your info to doko to see if it is a toolchain issue
[18:15] <sbeattie> jdstrand: I have not, will do.
[18:15] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: ok, cool...please do your essential work items after those two...if any other updates come up, throw them my way
[18:15] <sbeattie> okay.
[18:16] <sbeattie> micahg: I think you're up.
[18:16] <jdstrand> sbeattie: thanks! :)
[18:16] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: thanks!
[18:17] <micahg> so, I'm working on getting webkit building on stable releases, chromium beta won't even build a source package now, so I'll be looking into that, there's an icedtea regression that affects Firefox 10+ that someone needs to work on, I can take that if sbeattie is working on more pressing things
[18:17] <mdeslaur> micahg: what's the regression? do we have a fix for it?
[18:17] <micahg> mdeslaur: fix was uploaded to precise earlier today
[18:18] <micahg> bug 927282
[18:18] <mdeslaur> micahg: ah, yes, could you please take that?
[18:18] <micahg> yes
[18:18] <mdeslaur> micahg: thanks
[18:18] <sbeattie> micahg: were you able to reproduce the crash? Have you confirmed that the precise version is fixed?
[18:19] <micahg> sbeattie: was able to reproduce the crash in oneiric VM, have not tested the precise fix yet
[18:19] <micahg> I'll test that locally first and then move to build
[18:20] <micahg> so, that's my top priority ATM (icedtea), then chromium beta and webkit as they're both long builds I can work on them in parallel
[18:20] <jdstrand> micahg: did you work out the OOM stuff?
[18:20] <mdeslaur> micahg: cool
[18:20] <micahg> oh, and powerpc is still broke for Firefox 11, I hope to grab a fix for that so we don't regress the stable releases
[18:21] <micahg> jdstrand: I forgot cyphermox gave me 2 build flags to fix that, I applied them wrong last night and will kick off a build shortly which hopefully will solve the OOM issues as well
[18:21] <jdstrand> cool
[18:21] <jdstrand> micahg: btw, is firefox 11 building now on older releases?
[18:22] <micahg> yeah, in the beta PPA (amd64/i386)
[18:22] <jdstrand> excellent
[18:22] <micahg> I'll have release builds next Friday, but I'd prefer not to wait until release week to fix powerpc
[18:23] <micahg> i.e. March 9
[18:23] <micahg> upstream is working on it, so it shouldn't be too much effort on my part
[18:23] <mdeslaur> micahg: is the fix known? don't spend too much time on powerpc
[18:23] <jdstrand> seems reasonable, but be mindful we can pull powerpc in later too if needed (it is no an officially supported arch as you know)
[18:24] <micahg> right
[18:24] <micahg> that's it for me then
[18:24] <tyhicks> I am in the triage role this week
[18:24] <sbeattie> micahg: poke me when you get to the openjdk patch and I give you a little guidance there.
[18:25] <sbeattie> (sorry tyhicks, go ahead)
[18:25] <tyhicks> np :)
[18:26] <tyhicks> I really feel like I can get the ruby1.8 update out today. I said that late last week, but the update breaks a number of puppet spec tests.
[18:26] <mdeslaur> tyhicks: did you figure out why?
[18:27] <tyhicks> I've now found bugs opened in the puppet bug tracker for almost all of the issues, so I am in the process of adding those to the expected failure lists in test-puppet.py and then I'll rerun everything again
[18:27] <mdeslaur> huh
[18:27] <jdstrand> huh
[18:27] <tyhicks> mdeslaur: Yeah, hash table list outputs being randomized after fixing the hash table DoS issue
[18:27] <jdstrand> ah, that would make sense
[18:28] <mdeslaur> ah, yes, that,s a common problem
[18:28]  * jdstrand has to do something similar with the libxml2 tests
[18:28] <tyhicks> ok
[18:28] <tyhicks> After I get that out, I'm going to fix eCryptfs bug #842647
[18:28] <jdstrand> tyhicks: after the meeting, can you paste the output of a test-puppet.py run?
[18:28] <tyhicks> jdstrand: sure
[18:29] <tyhicks> I've got a patch that I started on for that eCryptfs bug, I just need to finish it off and get it upstream
[18:29] <mdeslaur> tyhicks: cool...so that would pretty much be the last ecryptfs issue for precise?
[18:29] <tyhicks> mdeslaur: That bug should probably be retargeted for beta 2. Even if I get it fixed and upstream in the next couple days, I don't think it will make it into the beta1 kernel
[18:30] <mdeslaur> tyhicks: done
[18:30] <tyhicks> mdeslaur: I still need to quiet down the logging in some error paths (simple fix). I was waiting on the kernel team to decide about turning on CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG and they determined that it increases the kernel size too much.
[18:31] <mdeslaur> tyhicks: just replace all the warnings with "eCryptfs is working fine. No need to file a bug."
[18:31] <jdstrand> lol
[18:31] <jdstrand> nice one!
[18:31] <mdeslaur> "This isn't the corruption you are looking for."
[18:31] <jdstrand>  5
[18:31] <jdstrand> o/
[18:31] <tyhicks> mdeslaur: Heh... or at least ratelimit a few of printks so that a find command doesn't fill up the hard drive ;)
[18:31] <tyhicks> :)
[18:32] <mdeslaur>  5
[18:32] <mdeslaur>  \o
[18:32] <jdstrand> :)
[18:32] <tyhicks> I've got a few kernel patches I need to review and apply and then I'll get back to my update queue after that
[18:32] <mdeslaur> tyhicks: cool
[18:32] <tyhicks> that's it for me
[18:32] <tyhicks> you're up jjohansen
[18:33] <jjohansen> I am pushing apparmor patches upstream this week and looking into the bugs that we hit on friday when pushing in the 2.8beta into precise.
[18:33] <jjohansen> That is a minimization bug, an auditing bug, and what looks like it might be a race in the test suite for mount (no bugs #s on those yet /me needs to sync with jdstrand first).
[18:33] <jjohansen> Beyond that I need to finish up some misc workitems, add more testing to mount rules, look at why overlayfs is causing bug#925028 when attach_disconnected is not used and the task is not in another namespace), and get the latest dbus stuff into a repository so work can begin on that again.
[18:33]  * tyhicks wonders if jj wrote a bot that watches for me to say 'you're up jjohansen' :)
[18:33] <mdeslaur> jjohansen: cool
[18:33] <jjohansen> tyhicks: nah I stole the kt bot
[18:34] <jjohansen> hrmmm I think thats it from me
[18:35] <jjohansen> jdstrand: back to you
[18:35] <sbeattie> jjohansen: I think your status report took longer than an entire kernel team meeting...
[18:35] <mdeslaur> jjohansen: so, when do you think you'll be sending your stuff to the kernel team?
[18:36] <jjohansen> sbeattie: hehe, okay you caught me I didn't use the bot I was just waiting and pasted the text
[18:36] <jjohansen> mdeslaur: I sent them a pull request friday
[18:36] <mdeslaur> jjohansen: oh, is the minimization issue in user space only?
[18:37] <jjohansen> mdeslaur: well yes, and no.  There is a kernel interface bug it exposed as well that needs to be fixed and pushed
[18:37] <mdeslaur> jjohansen: ok, cool
[18:38] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[18:38] <jdstrand> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[18:38] <jdstrand> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[18:38] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libparallel-forkmanager-perl.html
[18:38] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/pyftpd.html
[18:39] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/cabextract.html
[18:39] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/tesseract.html
[18:39] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ayttm.html
[18:39] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[18:39] <jdstrand> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[18:44]  * mdeslaur hears crickets
[18:45] <crickets> chirp chirp
[18:45] <mdeslaur> hehe
[18:46] <mdeslaur> jdstrand: fall sleep? :)
[18:47]  * jdstrand was enjoying the chirping
[18:47] <mdeslaur> chirp chirp
[18:47] <jdstrand> mdeslaur, sbeattie, micahg, tyhicks, jjohansen: thanks!
[18:47] <jdstrand> #endmeeting
[18:47] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Feb 27 18:47:31 2012 UTC.
[18:47] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-27-18.02.moin.txt
[18:47] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-27-18.02.html
[18:47] <micahg> thanks jdstrand
[18:47] <tyhicks> thanks
[18:47] <jjohansen> thanks jdstrand
[18:47] <mdeslaur> thanks jdstrand
[18:47] <sbeattie> thanks!
[19:07] <tumbleweed> !dmb-ping
[19:07] <tumbleweed> are we going to meet?
[19:07]  * tumbleweed changes that factoid
[19:12] <Myrtti> tumbleweed: how would you want it to be?
[19:12] <tumbleweed> Myrtti: s/geser/barry/
[19:12] <micahg> Myrtti: no one on the agenda :), just administrative stuff if anything
[19:12] <micahg> oh, that's what you mean :)
[19:12] <Myrtti> tumbleweed: one moment
[19:13]  * stgraber waves
[19:13]  * tumbleweed wonders if these bot admins have hilights on "factoid"
[19:14] <Myrtti> !dmb-ping > tumbleweed
[19:14] <Myrtti> tumbleweed: no, I just keep my eyes open
[19:14] <tumbleweed> Myrtti: lgtm, thanks
[19:15] <Myrtti> np