| arand | quidnunc: Aren''t they doing pretty much the same thing? | 00:12 |
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| jtaylor | strange, I synced espeakup via syncpackage today but still not accept mail | 00:16 |
| jtaylor | its been a couple of hours already | 00:17 |
| RAOF | jtaylor: Beta freeze is a hard freeze; it'll be sitting in unapproved. | 00:19 |
| jbicha | jtaylor: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue?queue_state=1 | 00:19 |
| jtaylor | :O O forgot about the freeze :/ | 00:19 |
| jtaylor | a its not seeded so no damage done? | 00:19 |
| ajmitch | just have to be patient :) | 00:20 |
| RAOF | It's in unapproved; it hasn't hit the archive, so no damage done, even if it were seeded. | 00:20 |
| quidnunc | arand: I can only build dsc with pbuilder-dist | 00:36 |
| quidnunc | I think | 00:36 |
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| stefanct | "[qastaging] Launchpad is processing new changes to this branch which will be available in a few minutes. Reload to see the changes." that was 10 hours ago...? :) | 09:39 |
| tumbleweed | stefanct: -> #launchpad | 09:39 |
| stefanct | thx | 09:42 |
| pipedream | tumbleweed: I kinda crashed last night. more or less ready to resume my efforts now | 09:50 |
| tumbleweed | pipedream: maybe we should move this to #ubuntu-packaging, as it's about a PPA package | 09:51 |
| * ajmitch wishes he had an SSD in his desktop now, upgrading from natty to oneiric is taking awhile | 09:52 | |
| pipedream | tumbleweed: ok | 09:56 |
| geser | dholbach: thanks for sponsoring my vim merge. So the changelog shortening I've done is in your opinion ok (dropping 800 lines of debian/changelog delta)? There was a short discussion yesterday if it should be kept | 10:38 |
| dholbach | geser, personally I think it's alright | 10:38 |
| dholbach | it has happened before :) | 10:38 |
| Laney | call it "rebase" instead of "merge" and kill the changelog delta :-) | 10:39 |
| * ajmitch should finish off this merge & upload it | 10:40 | |
| geser | I tried to find a balance between preserving history (1000 lines) and the size of the real delta (30-40 lines) and dropped entries older than lucid | 10:40 |
| dholbach | sounds reasonable to me | 10:40 |
| dholbach | archaeologists should be able to find old changelogs still :) | 10:41 |
| geser | it's not like LP forgets something (for the main repositories) | 10:41 |
| ajmitch | though I'm merging a new upstream release of phpldapadmin due to some security issues in the current one :) | 10:41 |
| micahg | ajmitch: might need an FFe still | 10:43 |
| ajmitch | micahg: yeah it likely will | 10:43 |
| ajmitch | http://phpldapadmin.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Release shows a number of new features since 1.2.0 | 10:43 |
| micahg | ajmitch: and thanks, that saves me from doing it :) | 10:43 |
| ajmitch | micahg: I don't want to deprive you of your fun ;) | 10:44 |
| micahg | heh, I've got a large bucket of "fun" to choose from :) | 10:44 |
| debfx | geser: my apt-cacher-ng sync has superseded your upload so you need to upload it again based on 0.7.1-1 | 10:44 |
| micahg | debfx: I'd venture to say, depending on who uploaded whoever uploaded the package second is responsible (don't know if there's a way to tell at this point) | 10:47 |
| geser | will do, my change just quietens the logrotate warning from the unknown option | 10:47 |
| geser | would soyuz allow to upload a version if a newer version is sitting already in the queue? | 10:48 |
| micahg | yes, it was sitting in unapproved (since we're frozen) | 10:48 |
| micahg | but whoever's approving the queue should be watching for these things :)) | 10:48 |
| debfx | still lp shouldn't allow accepting both | 10:48 |
| micahg | sure, it's unapproved | 10:48 |
| micahg | oh, accepting... | 10:49 |
| micahg | well, it's accepted, but wouldn't build | 10:49 |
| debfx | yeah it is accepted but it shouldn't allow it to be accepted | 10:50 |
| micahg | well, that doesn't seem like a high priority at this point | 10:51 |
| ajmitch | Laney: what do you need from me for this FFe fun? :) | 10:51 |
| Laney | money | 10:51 |
| * ajmitch has 10c around here somewherew | 10:51 | |
| ajmitch | I can post it to you, should arrive in a couple of months | 10:51 |
| Laney | £ please | 10:51 |
| ajmitch | closest I have is euros, sorry :( | 10:52 |
| Laney | play money :( | 10:52 |
| Laney | usual stuff | 10:52 |
| Laney | how major is the update? any rdeps? | 10:52 |
| ajmitch | closest to an rdep is a Suggests from samba4, the update looks to be about 85% bugfixes | 10:53 |
| Laney | smoke testing would be nice, otherwise bug with rationale | 10:54 |
| Laney | build/install logs probably wouldn't be that interesting ... | 10:55 |
| ajmitch | it's a php app, so build logs should be boring | 10:55 |
| nigelb | Laney: can we gift you the metric system instead? :D | 10:55 |
| ajmitch | the main rationale is OMG security holes (it's php...) | 10:55 |
| tumbleweed | so, it'll still have security holes :) | 10:56 |
| ajmitch | yup | 10:56 |
| tumbleweed | maybe even bigger ones, if php itself is anything to go by :P | 10:56 |
| ajmitch | 2+2=4, except when running php? :) | 10:56 |
| nigelb | haha | 10:56 |
| * Laney measures nigelb in links, then runs several furlongs away | 10:57 | |
| * nigelb goes to find a converter. | 10:57 | |
| Laney | 1/25 of a rod | 10:59 |
| nigelb | ... | 11:00 |
| Laney | 1/100 of a chain? | 11:00 |
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| ajmitch | Laney: bug 941855, want u-release subscribed? | 11:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 941855 in phpldapadmin (Ubuntu) "[FFe] phpldapadmin 1.2.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/941855 | 11:02 |
| Laney | did it | 11:03 |
| Laney | do you have any ability to test? | 11:03 |
| ajmitch | limited, I don't have an ldap server up & running | 11:04 |
| Laney | k | 11:04 |
| * Laney sticks a cherry on top | 11:04 | |
| * ajmitch is just trying to look at some of the big bad bugs on the rc bugs page, though tumbleweed & micahg seem to have got most :) | 11:05 | |
| nigelb | phpldapadmin *shudder* | 11:05 |
| ajmitch | nigelb: I know... | 11:06 |
| nigelb | I spent 2 weeks playing with it :) | 11:06 |
| ajmitch | it's like giving a teenager the keys to an expensive car & hoping that they don't crash it ;) | 11:06 |
| tumbleweed | ajmitch: I'm sure there are lots of worthwile things there, still | 11:06 |
| nigelb | ajmitch: wow, exactly! | 11:06 |
| tumbleweed | the automated lucid->precise upgrade tests are main-only, right? It'd be nice to run some on universe packages. But I doubt we'd have the manpower to deal with them... | 11:07 |
| micahg | tumbleweed: stgraber is running upgrade tests on the flavors | 11:08 |
| tumbleweed | right, but nothing approaching debian's piuparts upgrade tests of the whole archive | 11:08 |
| tumbleweed | (a few issues in rcbugs were squeeze->wheezy ugprades, which applied to lucid->precise) | 11:09 |
| * ajmitch thinks having universe upgrades tested is probably almost as important | 11:11 | |
| tumbleweed | I agree, they are important bugs for our users | 11:12 |
| tumbleweed | Ubuntu has a reputation of not upgrading cleanly, and only part of that comes from crazy PPAs :P | 11:13 |
| micahg | I fixed a release upgrade bug in lucid at the last UDS :) | 11:14 |
| tumbleweed | unfortunatly, they are a pain to test, becasue of the debconf upgrade problem (that's worked around in update-manager) | 11:15 |
| ajmitch | Laney: ta for the ffe approval, uploading now | 11:23 |
| Laney | ye beauty | 11:33 |
| hakermania | Hello :) May I be told when is the last timeline (which 'freeze') in which ubuntu can accept backports(new version of program already in the repos). I have thhe realease schedule link but setill not sure. Thanks :) | 12:55 |
| tumbleweed | hakermania: the last time for FFes to be processed is unseeded universe final freeze https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule | 12:56 |
| tumbleweed | and the -backports for new packages process doesn't appear to be usable yet | 12:57 |
| hakermania | tumbleweed, so, what do you suggest for having a ready backport? | 13:07 |
| tumbleweed | go with an FFe ifyo want a newer version in precise, and please try and do it before beta 2 | 13:18 |
| geser | jtaylor: do you plan to get your planner FTBFS fix directly into Ubuntu or wait some more on a new upload? | 13:50 |
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| === dholbach changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: REVU is back up | Precise: Feature Freeze | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://bit.ly/fz6AyQ | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ | ||
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| jtaylor | geser: probably makes sense to fix planenr directly, the new upload will likely include new features | 18:08 |
| jtaylor | I'll do that later | 18:08 |
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| AnAnt | Hello, is universe/multiverse also freezed ? | 20:24 |
| broder | AnAnt: universe and multiverse are subject to feature freeze | 20:24 |
| broder | due to lp limitations, uploads also get held for beta freeze, but if the package isn't on any beta products (cds, etc.), then they basically get instantly approved | 20:25 |
| broder | (so effectively not beta-frozen) | 20:25 |
| AnAnt | broder: so, I can sync packages that aren't on CDs ? | 20:26 |
| broder | AnAnt: yes | 20:26 |
| AnAnt | ok | 20:26 |
| broder | AnAnt: note that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BetaFreeze only mentions main and restricted | 20:26 |
| AnAnt | ok | 20:27 |
| micahg | AnAnt: the archive is frozen, but sources that don't affect images are usually waved through | 20:29 |
| micahg | that wiki page needs updating | 20:29 |
| broder | micahg: i thought non-imaged packages were actually an automatic accept and not just "usually" | 20:30 |
| micahg | it still requires a human | 20:30 |
| broder | right, but as automatic as anything done by a human can be | 20:31 |
| micahg | and if someone uploaded some crazy universe package that took 2 days to build, it might not go through | 20:31 |
| AnAnt | ok | 20:31 |
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| broder | fyi, for people who are doing the stripe ctf, they're planning to shut it down on wednesday | 21:04 |
| tumbleweed | so soon? | 21:05 |
| tumbleweed | broder: have you finished yet? | 21:05 |
| broder | no :-/ | 21:05 |
| broder | but i haven't put more than about 5 minutes of serious effort into it | 21:05 |
| broder | i know conceptually what i want to try and do, but haven't figured out how to do it yet | 21:06 |
| tumbleweed | :) | 21:07 |
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