[00:12] quidnunc: Aren''t they doing pretty much the same thing? [00:16] strange, I synced espeakup via syncpackage today but still not accept mail [00:17] its been a couple of hours already [00:19] jtaylor: Beta freeze is a hard freeze; it'll be sitting in unapproved. [00:19] jtaylor: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue?queue_state=1 [00:19] :O O forgot about the freeze :/ [00:19] a its not seeded so no damage done? [00:20] just have to be patient :) [00:20] It's in unapproved; it hasn't hit the archive, so no damage done, even if it were seeded. [00:36] arand: I can only build dsc with pbuilder-dist [00:36] I think === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [09:39] "[qastaging] Launchpad is processing new changes to this branch which will be available in a few minutes. Reload to see the changes." that was 10 hours ago...? :) [09:39] stefanct: -> #launchpad [09:42] thx [09:50] tumbleweed: I kinda crashed last night. more or less ready to resume my efforts now [09:51] pipedream: maybe we should move this to #ubuntu-packaging, as it's about a PPA package [09:52] * ajmitch wishes he had an SSD in his desktop now, upgrading from natty to oneiric is taking awhile [09:56] tumbleweed: ok [10:38] dholbach: thanks for sponsoring my vim merge. So the changelog shortening I've done is in your opinion ok (dropping 800 lines of debian/changelog delta)? There was a short discussion yesterday if it should be kept [10:38] geser, personally I think it's alright [10:38] it has happened before :) [10:39] call it "rebase" instead of "merge" and kill the changelog delta :-) [10:40] * ajmitch should finish off this merge & upload it [10:40] I tried to find a balance between preserving history (1000 lines) and the size of the real delta (30-40 lines) and dropped entries older than lucid [10:40] sounds reasonable to me [10:41] archaeologists should be able to find old changelogs still :) [10:41] it's not like LP forgets something (for the main repositories) [10:41] though I'm merging a new upstream release of phpldapadmin due to some security issues in the current one :) [10:43] ajmitch: might need an FFe still [10:43] micahg: yeah it likely will [10:43] http://phpldapadmin.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Release shows a number of new features since 1.2.0 [10:43] ajmitch: and thanks, that saves me from doing it :) [10:44] micahg: I don't want to deprive you of your fun ;) [10:44] heh, I've got a large bucket of "fun" to choose from :) [10:44] geser: my apt-cacher-ng sync has superseded your upload so you need to upload it again based on 0.7.1-1 [10:47] debfx: I'd venture to say, depending on who uploaded whoever uploaded the package second is responsible (don't know if there's a way to tell at this point) [10:47] will do, my change just quietens the logrotate warning from the unknown option [10:48] would soyuz allow to upload a version if a newer version is sitting already in the queue? [10:48] yes, it was sitting in unapproved (since we're frozen) [10:48] but whoever's approving the queue should be watching for these things :)) [10:48] still lp shouldn't allow accepting both [10:48] sure, it's unapproved [10:49] oh, accepting... [10:49] well, it's accepted, but wouldn't build [10:50] yeah it is accepted but it shouldn't allow it to be accepted [10:51] well, that doesn't seem like a high priority at this point [10:51] Laney: what do you need from me for this FFe fun? :) [10:51] money [10:51] * ajmitch has 10c around here somewherew [10:51] I can post it to you, should arrive in a couple of months [10:51] £ please [10:52] closest I have is euros, sorry :( [10:52] play money :( [10:52] usual stuff [10:52] how major is the update? any rdeps? [10:53] closest to an rdep is a Suggests from samba4, the update looks to be about 85% bugfixes [10:54] smoke testing would be nice, otherwise bug with rationale [10:55] build/install logs probably wouldn't be that interesting ... [10:55] it's a php app, so build logs should be boring [10:55] Laney: can we gift you the metric system instead? :D [10:55] the main rationale is OMG security holes (it's php...) [10:56] so, it'll still have security holes :) [10:56] yup [10:56] maybe even bigger ones, if php itself is anything to go by :P [10:56] 2+2=4, except when running php? :) [10:56] haha [10:57] * Laney measures nigelb in links, then runs several furlongs away [10:57] * nigelb goes to find a converter. [10:59] 1/25 of a rod [11:00] ... [11:00] 1/100 of a chain? === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [11:02] Laney: bug 941855, want u-release subscribed? [11:02] Launchpad bug 941855 in phpldapadmin (Ubuntu) "[FFe] phpldapadmin 1.2.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/941855 [11:03] did it [11:03] do you have any ability to test? [11:04] limited, I don't have an ldap server up & running [11:04] k [11:04] * Laney sticks a cherry on top [11:05] * ajmitch is just trying to look at some of the big bad bugs on the rc bugs page, though tumbleweed & micahg seem to have got most :) [11:05] phpldapadmin *shudder* [11:06] nigelb: I know... [11:06] I spent 2 weeks playing with it :) [11:06] it's like giving a teenager the keys to an expensive car & hoping that they don't crash it ;) [11:06] ajmitch: I'm sure there are lots of worthwile things there, still [11:06] ajmitch: wow, exactly! [11:07] the automated lucid->precise upgrade tests are main-only, right? It'd be nice to run some on universe packages. But I doubt we'd have the manpower to deal with them... [11:08] tumbleweed: stgraber is running upgrade tests on the flavors [11:08] right, but nothing approaching debian's piuparts upgrade tests of the whole archive [11:09] (a few issues in rcbugs were squeeze->wheezy ugprades, which applied to lucid->precise) [11:11] * ajmitch thinks having universe upgrades tested is probably almost as important [11:12] I agree, they are important bugs for our users [11:13] Ubuntu has a reputation of not upgrading cleanly, and only part of that comes from crazy PPAs :P [11:14] I fixed a release upgrade bug in lucid at the last UDS :) [11:15] unfortunatly, they are a pain to test, becasue of the debconf upgrade problem (that's worked around in update-manager) [11:23] Laney: ta for the ffe approval, uploading now [11:33] ye beauty [12:55] Hello :) May I be told when is the last timeline (which 'freeze') in which ubuntu can accept backports(new version of program already in the repos). I have thhe realease schedule link but setill not sure. Thanks :) [12:56] hakermania: the last time for FFes to be processed is unseeded universe final freeze https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule [12:57] and the -backports for new packages process doesn't appear to be usable yet [13:07] tumbleweed, so, what do you suggest for having a ready backport? [13:18] go with an FFe ifyo want a newer version in precise, and please try and do it before beta 2 [13:50] jtaylor: do you plan to get your planner FTBFS fix directly into Ubuntu or wait some more on a new upload? === yofel_ is now known as yofel === tubadaz__ is now known as tubadaz === Topic unset by dholbach on #ubuntu-motu === dholbach changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: REVU is back up | Precise: Feature Freeze | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://bit.ly/fz6AyQ | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [18:08] geser: probably makes sense to fix planenr directly, the new upload will likely include new features [18:08] I'll do that later === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [20:24] Hello, is universe/multiverse also freezed ? [20:24] AnAnt: universe and multiverse are subject to feature freeze [20:25] due to lp limitations, uploads also get held for beta freeze, but if the package isn't on any beta products (cds, etc.), then they basically get instantly approved [20:25] (so effectively not beta-frozen) [20:26] broder: so, I can sync packages that aren't on CDs ? [20:26] AnAnt: yes [20:26] ok [20:26] AnAnt: note that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BetaFreeze only mentions main and restricted [20:27] ok [20:29] AnAnt: the archive is frozen, but sources that don't affect images are usually waved through [20:29] that wiki page needs updating [20:30] micahg: i thought non-imaged packages were actually an automatic accept and not just "usually" [20:30] it still requires a human [20:31] right, but as automatic as anything done by a human can be [20:31] and if someone uploaded some crazy universe package that took 2 days to build, it might not go through [20:31] ok === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [21:04] fyi, for people who are doing the stripe ctf, they're planning to shut it down on wednesday [21:05] so soon? [21:05] broder: have you finished yet? [21:05] no :-/ [21:05] but i haven't put more than about 5 minutes of serious effort into it [21:06] i know conceptually what i want to try and do, but haven't figured out how to do it yet [21:07] :) === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away