[00:26] <fluvvell> does the current distro of mythbuntu boot being able to run live myth running system?
[00:26] <fluvvell> for testing tv cards for example
[01:10] <mrand> fluvvell: if you mean the live-cd (without doing an "install"), there is no backend in the live-cd, so you can't use THAT to test tv cards.  But you could use vlc or mplayer that is there to test the tv cards.
[01:13] <fluvvell> yes, I have a going myth 0.23 install on a 10.04 release that cant seem to use a new card I've put in, so I was considering booting a live distro to test it.
[01:13] <fluvvell> I could install a backend for test purposes I guess
[01:16] <mrand> yeah, creating a second partition isn't hard, if you want to go that route
[01:18] <fluvvell> well, I was actually thinking of apt-get installing on the ramdisk -I have 2Gb RAM onboard
[01:34] <fluvvell> but there is 37G available on the myth drive, I could snaffle a few gigs of that just for a test run
[03:33] <superm1> fluvvell: well the backend is present on the live cd, but the upstart job for both it and mysql-server are set to disabled
[03:34] <superm1> if you rename those jobs, you can probably finagle getting it running on the live cd
[03:34] <fluvvell> ah, so all I have to do is enable in /etc/default and start them up?
[03:34] <superm1>  in /etc/init
[03:34] <superm1> they should stand out to what they're renamed to
[03:35] <superm1> whenever myth grows automatic card detection and such it might make more sense for us to have a functional backend on the CD
[03:35] <superm1> but right now it's just way too much configuration to be useful for most people
[03:37] <fluvvell> superm1, sounds much better.  now if only I can get him easily into remote support mode I'm cooking with gas.
[03:38] <superm1> as in VNC?
[03:38] <superm1> that should be do-able too
[03:38] <fluvvell> well I might use teamviewer
[03:38] <superm1> i think the MCC VNC option will work on the live cd
[03:38] <fluvvell> oh, right
[03:39] <fluvvell> no firewall?
[03:39] <superm1> not enabled by default
[03:40] <superm1> you need to set a password for the VNC though when you turn it on
[03:40] <superm1> it isn't "on by default"
[03:40] <fluvvell> yep, very used to using vnc.
[03:40] <fluvvell> I'd forgotten about mcc
[03:41] <fluvvell> i've got ssh into the box atm, but when he boots the live cd that will all be gone
[03:42] <superm1> ah i see.  well don't think there is an easy way to solve that - you will at least need a USB keyboard while on the live cd to get to things and re-enable SSH or anything else
[03:43] <fluvvell> yep, he can do most of that form me. but if he can enable vnc from the MCC then I'm probably good
[03:43] <superm1> yeah
[03:45] <fluvvell> thanks :-)
[03:46] <superm1> sure, hope it works out!
[05:58] <fluvvell> whats with the username and password on the live cd????
[06:56] <fluvvell> anyone familiar with the stupid login on the 11.10 live cd???
[07:05] <fluvvell> mrand, do you know why the cd just boots to a stupid box with a pc icon and the username Ubuntu under it, but keeps giving the X server fail on failsafe error??
[07:08] <fluvvell> superm1, do you know?
[07:58] <fluvvell> can somebody please tell my why the live 11.10 cd won't login to an xfce session???
[08:03] <fluvvell> hmm, nobody answered it in the ubuntu forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11463929 either.
[08:44] <Technophil> Hi Can someone tell me where to put "sudo service dvbhdhomerun-utils start" in to run at boot time, as referenced at http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/dvbhdhomerun/wiki/UbuntuPackages and http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/dvbhdhomerun/wiki/FAQ
[08:44] <Zinn> [sourceforge.net] UbuntuPackages â dvbhdhomerun
[08:46] <Technophil> I tried writing a file under /etc/init.d/starter.sh and put it in there, less the sudo, made it executable but that does not seem to work...
[08:59] <Technophil> I think I see the problem, LAN not up yet...
[15:25] <superm1> fluvvell: if it's asking for a username and password, that means the X server crashed in it's initial attempt and the failsafe attempt started
[15:25] <superm1> you can put in the username "ubuntu" and no password to login however
[21:24] <fluvvell> superm1, yes then the x server re-crashes and it comes back to the login.  This same iso downloaded in two places boots the same on two different pcs.
[21:26] <fluvvell> there are hints that it may have to do with xfce, but as no other desktop option exists on the distro, its effectively a non-starter.
[22:08] <superm1> fluvvell: double check the md5sum of the ISO image i would recommend
[22:09] <superm1> and if you can, write it to a USB stick instead
[22:11] <fluvvell> the MD5 Checksum is just fine superm1, the disk is fine also. I think this is a dud distro.
[22:11] <fluvvell> and it pains me to say it.
[22:12] <fluvvell> its mythbuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[22:18] <fluvvell> I can CTRL-ALT-F1 across to a terminal, ps aux |grep xfconfd    shows that xfconfd is in fact not running, just as the failsafe error message suggests.
[22:20] <fluvvell> trying to start or restart dbus locks me out of the computer and requires a reboot
[22:37] <DaveMorris> hey all
[22:37] <DaveMorris> not sure if what I want is possible so any pointers.
[22:38] <DaveMorris> I'm looking to run MythTV client and a Squeezebox client on the same PC. (Which I know I can do and currently do)  However I want to output Myth sound over HDMI and squeezebox sound over coax
[22:39] <DaveMorris> is it possible?  Will I need to maybe run squeezebox in a virtual machine with a second sound card in the machine?
[22:41] <DaveMorris> might pick up a raspberry pi to run squeezebox
[23:21] <fluvvell> superm1, mrand and anyone else listening to my ramblings - I added a user via the tty console, and was able to log in with that. The ubuntu user will NOT let me log in (apart from via tty)
[23:21] <fluvvell> I am about to reboot, because I also tried other things before adding the user - I want to see if that is the main issue.
[23:21] <rhpot1991> DaveMorris: is this Squeezebox just some network music app?
[23:21] <DaveMorris> yeah
[23:21] <DaveMorris> opensource java client
[23:22] <DaveMorris> the free app on my phone is good for selecting and playing music
[23:22] <DaveMorris> since I cna use it without having to turn on the TV  (like with myth music)
[23:22] <rhpot1991> DaveMorris: I'd venture its as easy as configuring sqeezebox to use your coax output and leaving mythtv alone
[23:22] <DaveMorris> from what I've played with, they both just want to use the one clingured via sound preferences
[23:23] <rhpot1991> DaveMorris: well in myth you can tell it what sound device to use
[23:23] <rhpot1991> so maybe you make coax the default and let sqeezebox use that
[23:23] <DaveMorris> worth a play :)
[23:23] <rhpot1991> and then in myth (frontend, setup > general > page 3 I think)
[23:23] <rhpot1991> tell it to do hdmi
[23:24] <DaveMorris> cheers
[23:24] <rhpot1991> and hopefully your hdmi isn't jumpered from the same sound device as the coax
[23:24] <DaveMorris> btw I'd recommend Squeezebox, it works nicely