[14:59] <thafreak> Morning Ohio
[15:00] <paultag> heyya the
[15:00] <paultag> heyya thafreak
[15:00] <thafreak> what's going on
[15:00] <paultag> thafreak: nada, brotato
[15:00] <yano> good morning
[15:00] <yano> http://i.imgur.com/bG2zs.jpg
[15:00] <paultag> thafreak: what's new with you?
[15:00] <paultag> heyya yano
[15:01] <yano> hello
[15:01] <thafreak> nice
[15:07] <thafreak> Anyone remember the links that went around the ML from smk about how to keep oracle java on a machine?
[15:07] <thafreak> Or actually
[15:07] <thafreak> has anyone used openjdk with eclipse + android dev plugin?
[15:08] <thafreak> I need to setup a dev desktop for some student to use
[15:44] <_bbb> i installed it once when i was trying to find fastboot bin
[16:13] <thafreak> You know if it runs ok with openjdk?
[16:15] <_bbb> sorry fell asleep
[16:15] <_bbb> cant recall but i was likely using sun
[16:16] <thafreak> well, google it is then
[16:18]  * canthus13 yawns.
[16:20]  * _bbb tosses peanuts
[16:21] <canthus13> Oh wow. We're offering 110/5 now.
[16:21] <canthus13> or, will be starting 3/1.
[16:21] <thafreak> what the hell
[16:22] <thafreak> why does no isp ever provide more than 5 up?
[16:22] <paultag> because piracy
[16:22] <canthus13> We'll be upping it soon. we're still rearranging our upstream channels.
[16:22] <thafreak> fuck piracy
[16:22] <canthus13> paultag: Actually, it has more to do witht he fact that 99% of customers will NEVER saturate 2MB up.
[16:22] <paultag> canthus13: yeah yeah :)
[16:22] <paultag> thafreak: http://www.unhappybirthday.com/
[16:23] <thafreak> I'm seriously going to start investigating buying up dark fibers!!
[16:23] <canthus13> thafreak: too late. AOL did that a few years back.
[16:23] <_bbb> dark fruit and fiber
[16:23] <paultag> ha!
[16:25] <paultag> thafreak: that's my buddy's site :)
[16:26] <thafreak> does he work for sunlight too? :)
[16:26] <paultag> thafreak: nack, http://mako.cc/
[16:26] <thafreak> oh...is that morgan?
[16:26] <paultag> nah, benjamin mako hill
[16:26] <paultag> founded ubuntu and stuff
[16:26] <thafreak> oh that mako
[16:26] <paultag> yep, not maco
[16:27] <thafreak> i have one of his books
[16:27] <paultag> he writes well
[16:27] <thafreak> never really read it all the way
[16:27] <thafreak> got it for learning about the ubuntu community in preparation to try to take the LPI ubuntu cert
[16:27] <thafreak> which doesn't even exist now
[16:27] <paultag> haha
[16:28] <_bbb> yeah not sure i see the value in that
[16:28] <thafreak> yep
[16:28] <_bbb> im gonna go for vmware certification this year
[16:28] <thafreak> i think it had a cd with the first LTS release in it too
[16:28] <thafreak> _bbb: yeah, saw you were listing certs like crazy on linkedin
[16:28] <paultag> I don't have a single cert
[16:29] <paultag> and I don't think I ever will
[16:29] <paultag> I can't stand the idea, personally
[16:29] <thafreak> well, I'm behind LPI atleast...
[16:29] <thafreak> it's community written
[16:30] <paultag> mmm
[16:30] <thafreak> but yeah, certs are kinda silly
[16:30] <thafreak> i'm kind of over sysadmin stuff for work anyway
[16:31] <_bbb> well i got no degree so
[16:31] <_bbb> need some filler up there heh
[16:31] <_bbb> actually i just steamlined my linkedin a bit
[16:33]  * canthus13 really needs to study up and get his LPI.
[16:34] <canthus13> paultag: A lot of recruiters grep app databases for cert names...
[16:34] <paultag> lolwut
[16:34] <paultag> not any good ones ;)
[16:34] <canthus13> paultag: It's a starting point.
[16:34] <thafreak> i fucking hate recruiters
[16:35] <canthus13> obviously that's not the only criteria, but it narrows the field a lot when you have 10k apps to dig through.
[16:35] <canthus13> s/apps/resumes
[16:35]  * canthus13 needs caffeine. :P
[16:38] <_bbb> i just want my company to pay for it..
[16:40]  * canthus13 just wants a job where he's not dealing with the average ISP customer. :/
[18:56] <_bbb> i know that feeling
[18:56] <_bbb> NO! RIGHT CLICK!
[18:57] <Unit193> Nothing happend.
[18:57] <_bbb> i dont miss those days heh
[18:57] <Unit193> It don't work, can you fix it now?
[18:58] <Unit193> Still have family members, don't you?
[18:59] <_bbb> one of my first tech just was dial up tech support for small isp
[18:59] <_bbb> err
[18:59] <_bbb> s/just/jobs
[19:15] <thafreak> http://digitizor.com/2012/02/22/adobe-flash-linux-chrome/
[19:15] <thafreak> so no more flash in firefox for linux users?
[19:15] <thafreak> Kinda lame
[19:15] <Unit193> 0_o
[19:15] <thafreak> atleast it's still in chromium
[19:16] <thafreak> or chrome i guess
[19:16] <thafreak> not sure what that means for chromium
[19:16] <Unit193> Who cares about those, I use firefox. :P
[19:16] <thafreak> adobe's a bunch of f***ing d-bags
[19:16] <thafreak> then no flash for you
[19:16] <thafreak> wonder what this means for hulu desktop on linux...
[19:16] <canthus13> firefox has turned to crap anyway.
[19:17] <thafreak> i dunno...10.0 seems ok so far
[19:17] <Unit193> "Adobe, however, will continue to release security updates for Flash Player 11.2 for five years."
[19:18] <canthus13> thafreak: Since 7.0, firefox has decided that it's running on a freaking cellphone, and requests the WAP version whenever possible. :/
[19:18] <canthus13> on 3 of my machines, anyway.
[19:18] <Unit193> thafreak: 12 isn't doing me too bad, but they don't need to be doing some things they are doing.
[19:18] <Unit193> I have never gotten the WAP mismatch...
[19:19] <canthus13> I can never avoid it, and can't find any settings that would fix that. :/
[19:19] <canthus13> I finally gave up and switched to chrome.
[19:19] <canthus13> (Or chromium...)