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| Daviey | Has anyone reported losing right click ability on synaptic touchpads? | 16:33 |
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| bryceh | Daviey, dunno but cnd's been working on that chunk of code lately so he'd be the one to chat up | 16:34 |
| bryceh | Daviey, upgrade or downgrade your -synaptics until you find a version that works. | 16:34 |
| Sarvatt | Daviey: sorry was responding in #ubuntu-desktop | 16:36 |
| Sarvatt | Daviey: easiest way is to disable the synaptics clickpad xinput option | 16:36 |
| Daviey | Sarvatt: yes, sorry for x-posting | 16:36 |
| Daviey | thanks | 16:36 |
| Sarvatt | xinput --list, find the id for the bcm5974 device, xinput --list-props <id>, find the number for the clickpad property then xinput --set-prop <id> <clickpad id> | 16:37 |
| Sarvatt | hmm there was a better bug cnd responded on, trying to find it | 16:37 |
| Daviey | Sarvatt: sorry is the proprty the "Synaptic clickPad (259): 1) .. is it 1 or 259? | 16:40 |
| Sarvatt | 259 | 16:40 |
| Daviey | Sarvatt: perfect, thanks! | 16:41 |
| Daviey | That worked | 16:41 |
| Sarvatt | guess its easier to link people to http://paste.ubuntu.com/859398/ this is going to come up a lot :P | 16:45 |
| Sarvatt | not being able to right click at all is nasty | 16:45 |
| bryceh | hmm | 18:03 |
| sforshee | There have been multiple reports of desktop freezes on systems with sandy bridge (it doesn't seem to be related to RC6) which I am also seeing (bug 938770). For me they seem to go away if I downgrade mesa to 7.11-0ubuntu4. Can anyone suggest next steps for debugging? | 21:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 938770 in unity (Ubuntu) "Desktop becomes completely unresponsive" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/938770 | 21:46 |
| sforshee | one user also reported that going back to a 3.0 kernel gets rid of the issue, but I can't confirm this as my graphics aren't working at all with any pre-3.2 kernel | 21:48 |
| Sarvatt | sforshee: check your ~/.xsession-errors to see what desktop component failing and killing your session :) | 21:49 |
| Sarvatt | sforshee: a lot of the dupes you're referring to i believe were the ones fixed in the 8.0.1 mesa upload so be careful looking for dupes until you find out whats actually going wrong | 21:49 |
| Sarvatt | aka you'll see a lot of noise in the bug reports | 21:50 |
| sforshee | Sarvatt, I'm not searching for dupes, these are from people reporting problems on the RC6 testing bug | 21:50 |
| Sarvatt | since when? | 21:51 |
| Sarvatt | link? | 21:51 |
| sforshee | let me find it... | 21:51 |
| Sarvatt | i've been following the wiki closely with leann and cking and the intel guys since i'm the one that did the sauce patch to reenable it | 21:51 |
| Sarvatt | haven't see anything | 21:51 |
| Sarvatt | the rc6 freezes aren't an issue anymore with 3.2.0-17.27, with -17.26 and earlier kernels it was still enabling rc6p and there were some hard system power offs because the bioses put the voltages too the more aggressive rc6 states | 21:53 |
| sforshee | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/818830/comments/70 | 21:53 |
| Sarvatt | err bioses put the voltages to low in the more aggressive rc6 states i meant | 21:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 818830 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "[Sandy Bridge] serious power regression from kernel 3.0.0-6 to 3.0.0-7 (rc6 disabled)" [Medium,Triaged] | 21:53 |
| sforshee | that user still sees hangs with -17.27 | 21:53 |
| sforshee | and I do too :) | 21:53 |
| Sarvatt | libre office intel antialiasing text crash.. | 21:54 |
| sforshee | I see it with chromium | 21:54 |
| sforshee | it doesn't matter whether rc6 is enabled | 21:54 |
| sforshee | I went back to older precise kernels too from when I wasn't seeing this issue, and it still happens | 21:54 |
| sforshee | with rc6 disabled | 21:54 |
| sforshee | any other reports I see haven't confirmed it with -17.27 though | 21:55 |
| Sarvatt | compiz stuck polling in your backtrace, you should have something in ~/.xsession-errors saying what crashed and made your desktop unresponsive, especially if restarting compiz fixes it | 21:56 |
| * Sarvatt is getting confused why you're mentioning rc6 with this userspace bug :) | 21:56 | |
| Sarvatt | you'll probably see some kind of assert killing things in there | 21:57 |
| sforshee | Sarvatt, I figured when I said sandy bridge the first assumption would be that it was rc6 related :) | 21:57 |
| Sarvatt | if ya can grab the log over ssh whenever it happens next | 21:57 |
| sforshee | Sarvatt, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/859778/ | 21:58 |
| sforshee | don't need ssh, my vts still work | 21:58 |
| Sarvatt | its stuck right now? | 21:58 |
| sforshee | that's .xsession-errors when it's hung | 21:58 |
| sforshee | no, but I copied xsessin-errors while it was hung, and that's the contents | 21:58 |
| Sarvatt | ** CRITICAL **: syncdaemon_status_info_get_online: assertion `SYNCDAEMON_IS_STATUS_INFO (sinfo)' failed | 21:59 |
| Sarvatt | hmm | 21:59 |
| sforshee | i can readily reproduce it, so if there's something else you'd like me to try let me know | 21:59 |
| Sarvatt | thats part of gnome-settings-daemon | 21:59 |
| Sarvatt | sforshee: do you have 2 instances of syndaemon running? | 22:00 |
| sforshee | nope | 22:00 |
| Sarvatt | sforshee: and no segfaults in dmesg? | 22:02 |
| sforshee | no, no segfaults, no gpu hangs, nothing in i915_error_state | 22:02 |
| sforshee | nothing interesting at all in dmesg when this happens | 22:03 |
| RAOF | If compiz is polling it probably means it's waiting for a swap to complete. | 22:04 |
| sforshee | I might have to take that back -- there's something interesting this time, but this is the first time I've seen it | 22:04 |
| Sarvatt | sforshee: by any chance, does apport-collect 938770 add any more info? | 22:04 |
| sforshee | init: hybrid-gfx main process (2809) terminated with status 127 | 22:04 |
| Sarvatt | i reassigned to xorg so we can get some logs on the bug | 22:04 |
| RAOF | sforshee: Yeah, that's entirely benign; it's tselliot's “make hybrid nvidia systems less awful” upstart script running. | 22:05 |
| broder | RAOF: what source package did that script end up in? (curious to skim it) | 22:07 |
| Sarvatt | sforshee: I see exactly what you're describing when I have clickpad support enabled and scroll with 2 finger scrolling for instance with xserver 1.12 and it's a synaptics/utouch issue, restarting unity from a VT makes it work again and its definitely not video related even though it looks it so that would be worth trying | 22:07 |
| RAOF | broder: nvidia-common. | 22:07 |
| sforshee | Sarvatt, I was thinking it might be clickpad related earlier | 22:08 |
| Sarvatt | does unity --replace from a VT fix the desktop? | 22:08 |
| sforshee | I couldn't reproduce on another system with radeon graphics and the same clickpad however | 22:08 |
| Sarvatt | (note I have to unity --replace twice for it to actually work) | 22:08 |
| sforshee | unity --replace does work, and I only had to do it once | 22:09 |
| Sarvatt | when it happens to me, I get some warnings from utouch-frame in unity's stderr in the VT that dont show up in ~/.xsession-errors ever, WARNING: failed to get previous touch value | 22:11 |
| Sarvatt | wonder if its the same issue, i should get off xorg-edgers and go back to stock precise to see if that newer synaptics is still busted there on this machine so i can file a real bug | 22:12 |
| sforshee | Sarvatt, I don't see those | 22:13 |
| sforshee | I get some 'invalid cast' warnings | 22:13 |
| sforshee | and some icons it can't find, that's about it | 22:13 |
| sforshee | Sarvatt, apport-collect has finished | 22:18 |
| Sarvatt | sforshee: heh same exactly laptop as me | 22:19 |
| sforshee | that's convenient :) | 22:20 |
| Sarvatt | so there might be merit in it indeed being a synaptics/utouch issue i'm hitting on xserver 1.12, i'll downgrade to 1.11 in precise and get more info on this | 22:20 |
| Sarvatt | there should be no reason i can only hit it in 1.12 since we have the same commits for input in both | 22:20 |
| sforshee | I'm doing enablement on the machine and also on a macbook pro with the same touchpad but radeon graphics, and I can't reproduce it there | 22:20 |
| Sarvatt | i'm going to go ahead and move this over to x-x-i-synaptics | 22:22 |
| Sarvatt | xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.5.99+git20111212.9f9b55ab is fine, thats what i've been using for months to work around the issue | 22:22 |
| Sarvatt | whats apple-bl-gmux btw? | 22:23 |
| Sarvatt | ah | 22:24 |
| sforshee | it's for some macbooks that need to control the backlight through the gmux (display mux device) | 22:24 |
| sforshee | not needed for the air | 22:25 |
| sforshee | Sarvatt, bug 940771 is a similar freeze with libreoffice, but he isn't using a touchpad. You think that one is different? | 22:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 940771 in linux (Ubuntu) "Scrolling in LibreOffice Calc causes hang" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/940771 | 22:28 |
| Sarvatt | so libreoffice has other issues historically with antialiased text (which is turned on by default) on intel and those are actual crashes, i wouldn't necessarily assume its the same even if its while scrolling too but could be wrong | 22:30 |
| sforshee | okay, thanks. | 22:30 |
| Sarvatt | but yeah that is interesting | 22:31 |
| Sarvatt | i dont *think* i had a screwed up actually enabling rc6p instead of rc6 in the place he linked | 22:31 |
| Sarvatt | that was like 4 am saturday night though so all bets are off if i actually did that in a daze | 22:32 |
| Sarvatt | the crashes from libreoffice were memory exhaustion related so it could be he didnt test the other one enough too | 22:33 |
| Sarvatt | and they definitely show in dmesg which that person didn't attach | 22:35 |
| sforshee | I think he was running an unofficial rc6 test kernel, so apport refused to collect the logs | 22:35 |
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