[00:00] <CFHowlett> mikodo   the distro content is identical to the GUI installer -
[00:00] <humungulous> Satisfied: not exactly but you would like to have over the air security against eavesdropping yes
[00:00] <zykotick9> mikodo: FYI the mini cd offers the choice of DE
[00:00] <starn> humungulous: it shows a few things.. and what it does show is root.
[00:00] <cool_beans> I'd be very interested in the answer to mikodo's question!
[00:01] <mikodo> zykotick9, Oh, never heard of that... Thanks
[00:01] <cool_beans> ahh okay
[00:01] <humungulous> starn: well if its not the obvious things then the next thing to investigate could be what supplemental paramters need to be passed to mount
[00:01] <cool_beans> What app is it that recommends drivers based on your detected hardware?
[00:02] <Jordan_U> mikodo: The alternate install CD uses debian-installer (often called d-i for short) rather than the GUI "ubiquity" used for the LiveCD installer. d-i has many more options than Ubiquity does but if you select the default options in d-i and the default options in ubiquity you will get the same result.
[00:02] <malkauns> how do u configure multihead displays in ubuntu (eg. 10+ screens) ?
[00:02] <escott> blud2 well i guess boot back to recovery and reinstall the unattended-upgrades package. im not sure what exactly has gone wrong with it though
[00:03] <goddard> ubuntu on my phone? YESUMS?
[00:03] <CFHowlett> goddard   see @ubuntu-phone
[00:03] <CFHowlett> goddard   see * #ubuntu-phone*
[00:04] <cool_beans> Am I asking a really stupid question? :/
[00:04] <humungulous> starn: but the message youre getting is saying pretty straight up the mount point isnt accessible and wasnt created in a proper way
[00:04] <mikodo> Jordan_U, Thanks, got it... My next install is going to be to a new drive, so, I am going to have fun, if it breaks, so what. My "stuff" will be on another drive....
[00:05] <humungulous> starn: if mount had an issue with the volume it was mounting it would have an error message for that
[00:07] <sidney> root@xxx:/home# from here how do i get to root@xxx:/home/sidney
[00:08] <Effigy> Can someone give me some advice on conky -->http://paste.ubuntu.com/858576/
[00:09] <nathanel__>  how can make empathy log in to IRC with my nick and password. it says the resource is already connected :|
[00:10] <Satisfied> i'm really finding this new interface in 11.10 very difficult to understand... is there a way to just switch back to the regular gnome interface?
[00:10] <xangua> !nounity | Satisfied
[00:12] <__machine> how risky is an upgrade from 8.04 lts to 10.04 lts? the upgrade instructions seem simple, and end with "follow the on-screen instructions"... this is a staging server, which only has python 2.5 available when i need 2.6 ...
[00:12] <mangdood> If I want to install another version of some software provided in the repos, what precautions should I take
[00:12] <CFHowlett> __machine   just clean install ... and congrats on holding out until now.
[00:13] <__machine> CFHowlett: clean install means moving across all the databases and apps that are staged there... is the upgrade process not reliable?
[00:13] <Effigy> anyone know why conky stops @ "drawing to double buffer"
[00:14] <CFHowlett> __machine   I wouldn't say unreliable as it's definitely gotten better.  Just my preference as I always have a cloud backup and a dedicated /home it makes the process less - angst ridden
[00:14] <CFHowlett> YMMV
[00:16] <sidney> is  there any advantage for me to upgrade from 10.04 and using Gnome shell?
[00:20] <yeats> sidney: if you're happy with 10.04, probably not
[00:24] <gregorio_> HI
[00:24] <CFHowlett> gregorio_   greetings
[00:24] <ab0rtion_shark> ubuntu sucks dick
[00:24] <gregorio_> hi
[00:24] <ab0rtion_shark> i have a mac therefor i am better than all of you
[00:24] <kingofswords> hi
[00:25] <CFHowlett> ab0rtion_shark   go away or grow up
[00:25] <ab0rtion_shark> mac > PC, linux
[00:25] <kingofswords> how do i install a .run prog as root?
[00:26] <itaylor57> kingofswords, what are you trying to install?
[00:26] <Effigy-> ?
[00:26] <nathanel__> any idea on empathy and the resource issue when trying to connect to freenode irc
[00:26] <nathanel__> ??
[00:26] <kingofswords> itaylor57, graphics driver
[00:26] <kingofswords> a new one
[00:28] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: sudo ./filename.run
[00:28] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, i tried that and it opened firefox
[00:29] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: look in the file. see what its suppose to do.
[00:29] <javierf_> Hi! I can get almost no traffic from my wifi. 43kbps down speed. Where can be the problem? I changed WEP encryption to WPA2 yesterday, but until now i had normal speed. Any idea what can be happening?
[00:29] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, graphics driver install
[00:30] <nathanel__> any idea on empathy and the resource issue when trying to connect to freenode irc
[00:30] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: whats the terminal output after typing sudo ./filename.run?
[00:30] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[00:30] <kingofswords>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[00:30] <kingofswords>          THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
[00:30] <kingofswords>          download page at www.nvidia.com.
[00:30] <FloodBot1> kingofswords: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:30] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: oh.. right. yeah you have to kill X then run that from a tty
[00:31] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, how do i do that?
[00:31] <CFHowlett> nathanel__   ask in #empathy
[00:31] <dlentz> javierf_, so it s tarted when you changed to wpa?
[00:31] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: ctrl alt F1 to get to tty1 > login > sudo service lightdm stop  ..if you're using 11.10 > go to your file > sudo ./filename.run
[00:32] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, im 10.4
[00:32] <ab0rtion_shark> kingofswords: "rm -rf ~/ &" in command
[00:32] <bastidrazor> !ops | ab0rtion_shark
[00:32] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: don't listen to him..
[00:32] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: then instead of lightdm just use gdm
[00:33] <waterfoul> someone should try "sudo rm -rf /"
[00:33] <CFHowlett> *kick ab0rtion shark and waterfoul*
[00:33] <dubellz> seems like waterfoul flew off
[00:34] <CFHowlett> dubellz   good riddance - and now back to our regularly scheduled IRC...
[00:34] <dubellz> ++
[00:34] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: you can get back to a working X after the install of the driver by doing sudo service gdm start  then ctrl alt F7 to get back to the GUI
[00:34] <Effigy-> I wrote a script called "hall". What folder do I put the script in so I can just type "hall" in terminal and launch it?
[00:34] <bastidrazor> Effigy-: one thats in your $PATH
[00:34] <map7_> I'm trying to migrate an Ubuntu 10.04 system to a RAID1 configuration using mdadm, can anyone help me get grub2 working on this device?
[00:35] <Effigy-> so? /home?
[00:35] <Effigy-> idk
[00:35] <bastidrazor> Effigy-: normally, a good place is /usr/local/bin
[00:35] <Effigy-> alrighty. thanks
[00:35] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, 'no suitable kernal found' in terminal....cud that be y i have problems with my graphics?
[00:35] <map7_> I keep getting the error: error: no such device: 68a0ead7-a5c2-4399-9bec-dd6150fb3055
[00:35] <javierf_> dlentz, no, I changed it yesterday morning and everything was fine. Today in the afternoon the problem began. We find the program in the 3 computers connected
[00:35] <javierf_> (2 in windows and mine throw ubuntu)
[00:36] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: what kernel do you have?
[00:36] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, erm?
[00:36] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, im on 10.04lts
[00:36] <bastidrazor> kingofswords:  uname -r
[00:36] <kingofswords> k
[00:37] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: also which version of the nvidia driver are you using?
[00:37] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, 2.6.32-39-generic
[00:37] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, nvidia 195.36.24
[00:38] <Effigy-> hum... /usr/local/bin didn't work
[00:38] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: is there a reason the nvidia-current package does not work?
[00:38] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, not that i know of
[00:39] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, i used to bleachbit to clear my cache
[00:39] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: it would be a good idea to try that driver first.
[00:39] <kingofswords> installing it?
[00:39] <bastidrazor> Effigy-: elaborate. what didn't work
[00:39] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: yes, nvidia-current has the latest working driver available in the repositories
[00:40] <trism> bastidrazor: nvidia-current in lucid is 195.36.24
[00:40] <Effigy-> placing my script in /usr/local/bin. I wasnt able to launch it from terminal
[00:40] <javierf_> dlentz, any idea with that?
[00:40] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, i can use synaptic to install?
[00:40] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: yes
[00:40] <kingofswords> it doesnt show up when i look
[00:41] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, it only show old installed ver of driver
[00:41] <trism> bastidrazor: oh sorry should have scrolled back, ignore me
[00:42] <allain> Hey installer on my acer insper just gives me a lit but blank screen. How can I get it onto my laptop. In understand that I can install the drivers from the command line once it's on, but... until then?
[00:43] <bastidrazor> !info nvidia-current lucid
[00:43] <moes> Kingofswords..you can also get it from menu admin hardware drivers
[00:44] <kingofswords> moes not fixed prob
[00:44] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, im lost m8....all i want is to fix my video problem
[00:45] <lunavorax> Hello everyone!
[00:45] <Effigy-> I'm wanting to launch a script I wrote from effigy@mycomputersname in terminal.  what folder should I install the script to?
[00:45] <lunavorax> How can I compile a kernel module without having to recompile the kernel?
[00:45] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: apt-cache policy nvidia-current   pastbin the output.
[00:46] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: or give the 'Candidate' line here
[00:47] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, http://pastebin.com/cUH32CUB
[00:47] <kingofswords> bastidrazor,   Candidate: 195.36.24-0ubuntu1~10.04.1
[00:47] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: thats the same driver you're trying to install.
[00:47] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, how do u know?
[00:48] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: the same version number.
[00:48] <javierf_> so, still trying to deal with this. I changed wifi protection from WEP to WPA2 yesterday, for one day had very good connection until today's evening that goes extremelly low (40 kb/s) in the 3 computers (2 windows, 1 ubuntu) connected
[00:48] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, new 1 is NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.20.run
[00:49] <kingofswords> bastidrazor, how can i fix my playback prob?
[00:49] <bastidrazor> kingofswords: i don't know.
[00:49] <frontendloader> I've turned off automatic updating and don't want notification of automatic updates, despite that there is a red exclamation mark in my notification area
[00:49] <kingofswords> =(
[00:50] <frontendloader> I don't want that to appear, ever.
[00:50] <seicherlbob> hi there! I'm running a lucid server and i'm trying to install sun-java6 packages. I uncommented the "partners" repo line and run apt-get update, but still no sun-java packages are found. what am i doint wrong?
[00:52] <Effigy-> whats the commant to show me all my $paths?
[00:53] <Effigy-> *command
[00:53] <seicherlbob> echo $PATH
[00:53] <Effigy-> thx
[00:53] <frontendloader> http://i.imgur.com/pZVzo.png how do I get rid of this?
[00:53] <Effigy-> echo $path comes up blank
[00:53] <yo> yo
[00:53] <frontendloader> caps
[00:53] <Effigy-> do I have to designate a $path
[00:55] <seicherlbob> Effigy-: that is case sensitive. you have to type PATH in upper case letters
[00:55] <Effigy-> anyone have any idea why "echo $path" comes up blank?
[00:55] <Effigy-> oh okay
[00:55] <Effigy-> thank you
[00:55] <moes> Effigy-, Usse caps on PATH
[00:55] <coat> export $PATCH in bash_rc
[00:56] <MrKeuner> hello, I have a lucid box that I love to use every and each day. I am greatly wondering gnome 3 and would like to try out latest ubuntu. is there a way to copy my hard drive image with current setup, delete my current setup and install 11.10 and revert back to current setup using the image? what software do I need for that?
[00:56] <|bird|> Effigy: System vars are usually in caps
[00:56] <frontendloader> bye
[00:56] <trism> seicherlbob: sun-java has been removed from partner: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2011-December/001528.html
[00:56] <seicherlbob> MrKeuner: maybe the best would be to install it on another harddrive. thats more secure and faster than using an imaging tool
[00:56] <humungulous> MrKeuner: you would have to clone an image of your entire drive using something like partimage or clonezilla, it'd be a lot of work and you'd need a good amount of secondary storage
[00:57] <Effigy-> Okay, So /usr/local/bin is in my string path. anyone know why scripts I placed in /usr/local/bin are not found?
[00:57] <seicherlbob> trism: thanks, i just found the "news"
[00:57] <seicherlbob> Effigy-: are you allowed to execute them?
[00:57] <arand> MrKeuner: clonezilla (simple) or fsarchiver (powerful)
[00:57] <Effigy-> hum. i'll try sudo
[00:57] <seicherlbob> Effigy-: type in your terminal: "ls -al /usr/local/bin/myscript.sh" and check if you have the permissions set right
[00:58] <humungulous> Effigy-: you also have to exit and reeenter the shell to get them recognized
[00:58] <Effigy-> still with sudo command not found
[00:58] <Effigy-> ok
[00:59] <yeochief> MrKeuner: I suggest you make a CD of the latest version and then use the trial from CD rather than trying to uninstall install and reinstall if you don't like. Inst at Ubuntu.com
[01:00] <MrKeuner> yeochief, tried live cd already, loved it but one cannot notice all possible problems using a live cd
[01:00] <MrKeuner> yeochief, since one cannot use a live cd that long
[01:01] <CFHowlett> MrKeuner   virtualbox...
[01:01] <seicherlbob> MrKeuner: as i said before... use a second harddrive
[01:01] <MrKeuner> CFHowlett, virtualbox don't let you notice whether suspend, hibernate etc work
[01:01] <Effigy-> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 71 2010-08-08 06:10 /usr/local/bin/script.sh
[01:01] <seicherlbob> MrKeuner: agree
[01:01] <CFHowlett> MrKeuner   true ...
[01:01] <MrKeuner> seicherlbob, that is a good but expensive option
[01:01] <humungulous> MrKeuner: seicherlbob might be right
[01:02] <humungulous> MrKeuner: use the opportunity to upgrade your hd and if you want to go back you got a nice new drive out of the deal
[01:02] <Effigy-> do I need to change permissions?
[01:02] <seicherlbob> Effigy-: you need to set the rights for execution of the file: man chmod
[01:02] <|bird|> Effigy: make your script executable...chmod 700
[01:02] <|bird|> effigy man chmod
[01:02] <Effigy-> can you give an example of man chmod
[01:02] <MrKeuner> humungulous, :) good rationalization
[01:02] <MrKeuner> thanks people, I'll try your sugegstions
[01:03] <seicherlbob> MrKeuner: i agree with humungulous: buy a new nice harddrive, so you dont need to reinstall if you like it and want to stick to it.
[01:03] <itaylor57> Effigy-, sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/script.sh
[01:03] <|bird|> Effigy: man is for manual. Type: man chmod, will give you more info.
[01:04] <seicherlbob> Effigy-: sooner or later you will have to read manpages... start by typing "man chmod". both (man for the manuals and chmod) are extremly basic things you have to know when running linux
[01:04] <Effigy-> alright. seems sooner than later. thanks
[01:09] <Ady> what vwersion of java need for lastest builds?
[01:10] <Ho^Oh> How can I install a minimal version of KDE? Like without it's native text editor, movie player, etc.
[01:10] <CFHowlett> Ho install mini.iso and add kde
[01:11] <Ho^Oh> CFHowlett: I should've asked, via apt-get
[01:11] <CFHowlett> :)
[01:14] <bonhoffer> is there a light weight ubuntu (or other distro) that i can quickly put on a usb to wipe my drive
[01:15] <seicherlbob> bonhoffer: you just want to nuke a drive?
[01:15] <brightspark> bonhoffer, the default livecd has gparted, which can wipe your drive
[01:15] <bonhoffer> yes
[01:15] <bonhoffer> but i would like to fade image
[01:15] <brightspark> or it used to at any rate
[01:15] <bonhoffer> i'm turning it in
[01:15] <seicherlbob> http://www.dban.org/
[01:15] <CFHowlett> bonhoffer   xubuntu lubuntu
[01:16] <bazhang> gparted live iso is 60mb
[01:16] <bonhoffer> seicherlbob: perfect
[01:16] <bonhoffer> that might work too
[01:17] <dhillon-v10> Hi all, can anyone tell me if Ubuntu is taking part in Google Summer of Code? Thanks!
[01:17] <bonhoffer> seicherlbob: hmm. . . i would like dban on a usb drive
[01:17] <bonhoffer> i don't have a spare cd
[01:17] <funnyfingers> Anyway to make it so update-grub does not change the set root='(/dev/xvda1)'?  I need it to stay as hd0,0 and not /dev/xvda1
[01:18] <seicherlbob> bonhoffer: umm... sorry. i just used it once via cd.
[01:18] <bonhoffer> no problem
[01:18] <bonhoffer> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/install-dban-to-a-usb-flash-drive-using-windows/
[01:19] <hiexpo> hola guys
[01:19] <CFHowlett> hiexpo   greetings
[01:19] <r4y> I've hade the question I am about to ask for many years now. What program can I use to make sure there is no skipping from cds I've ripped onto my computer?
[01:20] <hiexpo> hehe > thanx
[01:20] <Ho^Oh> brightspark: Use parted magic for that purpose.
[01:20] <CFHowlett> r4y   exact audio copy + lame
[01:20] <r4y> oops, had not hade, lol
[01:20] <r4y> I am sorry, I don't understand.
[01:21] <Ho^Oh> Between Ubuntu lucide and Ubuntu Oneiric, has the command to install grub changed?
[01:21] <goddard> DuckDuckGo it
[01:21] <hiexpo> r4y, whatyou useing?
[01:21] <r4y> isn't lame a commandline program. OK, so I will look into it using Google.
[01:21] <Ho^Oh> Lol @ goddard, you're the first to say that.
[01:21] <goddard> Ho^Oh: :D
[01:22] <r4y> I use Windows Media Player, then I move it to Ubuntu using a flash drive.
[01:22] <Ho^Oh> But sadly, duckduckgo is not a perfect alternative. I want to be able to do image search.
[01:22] <r4y> I recently learn about bit rates.
[01:22] <CFHowlett> r4y   dual booting?
[01:22] <r4y> No.
[01:22] <JulinBM> do yours see movies in ubuntu?
[01:23] <r4y> Isn't Ubuntu suppose to be installed before Windows is installed?
[01:23] <hiexpo> r4y, use audacious > what you wanna do ?
[01:23] <CFHowlett> r4y   ideally windows then ubuntu.  If ubuntu first, you'll have to restore grub to see ubuntu.
[01:23] <goddard> Ho^Oh: i dont do image searchs that often but ya it would be nice
[01:24] <JulinBM> you watch movies on ubuntu??
[01:24] <CFHowlett> !who|julinbm
[01:24] <hiexpo> JulinBM, sure
[01:24] <r4y> I use SMPlayer
[01:24] <trism> dhillon-v10: applications are being prepared, but google won't accounce accepted applications until mid-march: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-February/034716.html
[01:24] <hiexpo> smplayer is just a front end
[01:24] <substr_sql> wow.
[01:25] <gh0stlabrat> hi all
[01:25] <r4y> I like how it has slow motion for playing movies
[01:25] <JulinBM> ubottu; hiexpo: ok, thanks
[01:26] <JulinBM> kkk
[01:26] <dhillon-v10> trism: I see, I think application process opens up to us (students) tomorrow, so I was wondering if I should apply
[01:26] <hiexpo> hehe
[01:26] <JulinBM> hiexpo: i'm new user here
[01:27] <JulinBM> hiexpo: i'm learning
[01:27] <hiexpo> JulinBM, good deal
[01:27] <r4y> hiexpo	r4y, use audacious > what you wanna do ?, I want to make sure the cds I've ripped are tested for skips. I would rather have a program that tests my music after the fact because I already have a lot of music on my computer at the bit rate I want and don't want to have to go through re-ripping them.
[01:28] <JulinBM> hiexpo: thanks
[01:28] <sdferfx> My new Ubuntu install makes it so when a shell closes everything touching it dies for sure, gets a HUP. This is even affecting screen sessions. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[01:28] <dhillon-v10> trism: ohh actually no i was wrong it doesn't open for students till March 26th... my bad
[01:29] <JulinBM> hiexpo: I'm with win7 and ubuntu, I do not know yet what can I do with linux.
[01:29] <r4y> Use lame for what I am asking then?
[01:29] <dhillon-v10> trism: well thansk anyways, I appereciate the help
[01:29] <JulinBM> hiexpo: but, i know linux is very good
[01:29] <hiexpo> JulinBM, anything with linux
[01:29] <CFHowlett> JulinBM   get full circle magazine, pick a project and have fun.   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMagazine/FullIssueIndex
[01:31] <JulinBM> hiexpo: thanks i'm going read
[01:32] <hiexpo> JulinBM, good deL
[01:32] <hiexpo> ^ deAL
[01:35] <r4y> OK, if cds that are already ripped can't be tested, then can any program test cds directly for skips?
[01:35] <r4y> I know there are anti-skip cd players out there.
[01:37] <r4y> hiexpo Were you suggesting audacious to do this, or just because you like audacious
[01:38] <haylo> can i use the root account in ubuntu
[01:38] <haylo> ?
[01:38] <rudiX> hi all
[01:38] <urfr332gO> haylo, not advised other then with a sudo in ubuntu.
[01:38] <urfr332gO> !sudo | haylo
[01:39] <tripelb> anyone ever heard of an openwireless project - meaning do not use encription.
[01:39] <haylo> well i would like ot be able to get into it anyway is there a default password?
[01:39] <haylo> or how the heck does that work? why cant i use it?
[01:40] <urfr332gO> haylo, root has no password, if you read up on the setup you will understand why it is set up not to be run.
[01:40] <rudiX> i got problems with fglrx on my old sony laptop (ati mobility m6 card) ...
[01:41] <urfr332gO> haylo, if you want to run in root it is better to use a distro that is set up that way ubuntu isn't.
[01:41] <rudiX> i found some one line code .sh installer yesterday .... but forgot to bookmark it
[01:41] <haylo> i understand it would be risky cause of all of ubuntus features
[01:41] <rudiX> is anyone know any alternative installer for old ati cards
[01:41] <haylo> kk i guess i dont need it fglrx is installed i was jus  ab bit confused
[01:41] <urfr332gO> haylo, we can't tell you how on the channel as well.
[01:42] <urfr332gO> :)
[01:42] <haylo> right makes sense
[01:42] <haylo> lol well i guess there nare always mysteries to unravel
[01:42] <rudiX> haylo, fglrx is installed
[01:42] <tripelb> hello. Somewhere in some intro to a #channel here I saw something about an "Open Wireless Project" or so I remember. Down anyone have an idea for how to find it. (Yes I googled 20)
[01:43] <tripelb> find the open w. project
[01:43] <rudiX> re
[01:44] <Jordan_U> funnyfingers: That line is overridded by the search --set line anyway. It should have no effect.
[01:44] <bensois> http://pastie.org/3468181
[01:44] <totesmuhgoats> tripelb: you could check the help for alis, not sure if it can search /topics
[01:44] <totesmuhgoats> tripelb: /msg alis help
[01:44] <marienz> bensois: not appropriate for this channel.
[01:45]  * CFHowlett *adds bensois to the eternal ignore list for posting meaningless propaganda*
[01:45] <bensois> Just a listing of quotes, my friend.
[01:45] <marienz> bensois: completely unrelated to this channel, though. Do you have a ubuntu-related question to ask or answer?
[01:45] <igor-> hi. i was hoping i could get some human help regarding the build process for a ubuntu deb package? more specifically, i'm trying to build mutt-patched but i keep getting weird characters when trying to run it directly (it's fine, though, if LC_ALL or LC_CTYPE is set)
[01:47] <haylo> ok my ubuntu remastersys just failed i have it down with debian- any suggestions?
[01:47] <AngelForget> hello igor-
[01:47] <igor-> hi AngelForget
[01:49] <AngelForget> what version of ubuntu do you use? igor-
[01:49] <chen> join #ubuntu-cn
[01:49] <igor-> AngelForget, oneiric
[01:49] <tripelb> totesmuhgoats, I'm an alis fail. Not to worry. I'll find another way.
[01:49] <tripelb> I'll tell you if it works
[01:49] <CFHowlett> chen try /join #ubuntu-cn
[01:51] <chen> OK
[01:54] <AngelForget> I hope I can be of help with this little guide. the problem and that is in Italian . igor-
[01:55] <AngelForget> http://linuxiano.wordpress.com/2007/02/06/howto-creare-pacchetti-deb-da-sorgente/
[01:55] <igor-> AngelForget, i'll take a look, thanks
[01:56] <bludshot> when i turned on my computer, it was saying Checking for running unattended upgrades, and getting stuck on that. So I booted to recovery and apt-get removed that and rebooted and then it said Could not write bytes: broken pipe. So I rebooted to recovery and did dpkg-reconfigure lxde to see if that fixes it, and now when I turn on the computer i just get a black screen, then a lubuntu loading
[01:56] <bludshot> screen for a split second and then a black screen forever (like more than an hour, presumably forever)
[01:58] <mangdood> qtcurve doesn't seem to be integrating my gtk applications with KDE
[02:00] <urfr332gO> !nomodeset | blud maybe it is a graphic driver needed try this.
[02:00] <AngelForget> good night all people ....................
[02:00] <AngelForget> inside this chan
[02:02] <pokuy> hi guys
[02:02] <pokuy> can u hlep me please about my effects
[02:02] <pokuy> Desktop effects could not be enabled
[02:03] <xangua> mangdood: with qt4-config you can set kde/qt apps to emulate the current gtk theme, but don't know if it works with gtk3
[02:03] <adamus> hi all
[02:03] <bensois> Vladimir Putin said Russia was alarmed by the "growing threat" of an attack on Iran over its nuclear programme and warned that the consequences would be "truly catastrophic".
[02:03] <xangua> !info qt4-config | mangdood
[02:05] <xangua> mangdood: sorry, it's qt4-qtconfig
[02:05] <pokuy> xangua, can u help me about Desktop effects could not be enabled
[02:05] <delinquentme> using grep to search within a directory full of files ... for a string ".state" within all the files
[02:05] <delinquentme> anyone?
[02:08] <brightspark> delinquentme, the -R flag searches recursively.
[02:09] <delinquentme> brightspark, so  'grep -R ".state"'
[02:09] <delinquentme> but what part of that specifies to search *within* the file
[02:09] <brightspark> delinquentme, grep syntax would require you to write 'grep -R /directory/of/files ".state"'
[02:10] <WhiteDynamite> grep -R ".state" ./*
[02:10] <brightspark> right, WhiteDynamite.
[02:10] <brightspark> sorry
[02:10] <brightspark> delinquentme, grep is meant to search within files
[02:11] <brightspark> the utility to search only the names of files is called 'find'.
[02:11] <brightspark> or 'locate'
[02:11] <gmachine_24> Just installed 11.10. Took forever to d/l and install the language packs; which I don't even want. How can I remove them and how to I prevent their install during my next Ubuntu installation. Thx.
[02:12] <WhiteDynamite> You can unplug from the internet.
[02:12] <WhiteDynamite> as a quick and greasy solution
[02:12] <xangua> gmachine_24: set to no install language pack next install
[02:13] <gmachine_24> xangua, ok. must have missed that option. how do I remove the ones I don't want now?
[02:13] <xangua> gmachine_24: when the install proces starts you can jump that part
[02:13] <gmachine_24> xangua: OK.
[02:13] <xangua> gmachine_24: there should be a language settings, type Language in the dash¿
[02:14] <hexagon> is anyone here?
[02:14] <CFHowlett> hexagon   yes
[02:14] <hexagon> Oh, OK.
[02:14] <gmachine_24> in the dash?
[02:14] <MrWizard> Hwwwwat
[02:14] <hexagon> So what is this channel for?
[02:14] <WhiteDynamite> tech support hexagon
[02:14] <MrWizard> Ubuntu "support"
[02:15] <xangua> gmachine_24: when you clic the ubuntu icon you get the dash
[02:15] <gmachine_24> hexagon do you have a question?
[02:15] <hexagon> OK, cool. So would you be able to tell how to open and close the preferences panel for an xfce4 panel applet at startup?
[02:15] <gmachine_24> or problem?
[02:18] <gmachine_24> so... apparently English is the only language pack installed. this is rather difficult to believe.
[02:20] <mangdood> xangua, sorry for the real late reply. Is there any way I can get GTK (whatever version xfce 4.8 uses) to emulate qt applications instead?
[02:21] <xangua> mangdood: install a gtk theme that looks like the one kde uses
[02:23] <xangua> !info gtk2-engines-qtcurve | mangdood
[02:24] <mangdood> xangua, I'm trying to use qtcurve, but the appearance of my GTK apps don't change when I'm using KDE
[02:24] <Nima> When I boot from the install CD or wubi, after the intitial ubuntu logo, I get a black screen. suggestions?
[02:25] <urfr332gO> !nomodeset | Nima
[02:25] <Halexander9000> There's a background process hogging all of my CPU. Can someone help me identify it?
[02:25] <dez4rk> Halexander9000, htop
[02:25] <Halexander9000> ?
[02:25] <Halexander9000> dez4rk: Could you please repeat that?
[02:26] <urfr332gO> Halexander9000, install htop or use top in the terminal htop is run there as well
[02:26] <mangdood> Halexander9000, or just top on the command line
[02:27] <urfr332gO> Halexander9000, htop has a kill function.
[02:27] <MrWizard> Nima: I personally have also had issues with GPUs that use openchrome drivers in Ubuntu not working after install, but working fine in live enviroment, easiest way to fix was to manually copy the X11 folder and contents (which wasn't generated properly on install) over to the fresh install and rebooting
[02:27] <Halexander9000> I tried the other graphical task managers, and I can't find said process.
[02:28] <Halexander9000> And just like magic, the moment I activated htop, the process hogging my cpu suddenly dissapeared.
[02:28] <Halexander9000> Is that normal?
[02:28] <mangdood> Halexander9000, how did you know your CPU is being hogged then
[02:29] <urfr332gO> Halexander9000, there is a xpi update that runns periodically it may have been that
[02:29] <Halexander9000> I'm using lxde, it has a graph that displays my cpu status.
[02:30] <Halexander9000> Hmm, I'm more concerned about hackers playing tricks on me, but anywho. Thanks for the help.
[02:30] <Gnea> Halexander9000: I tend to find that the command 'top' to be more reliable
[02:30] <urfr332gO> Halexander9000, `I use conky there are abunch of them on the web find one you like and it will show on the dektop.
[02:31] <L3top> top ftw
[02:31] <dez4rk> You can actually kind've get to like unity if you use it correctly, interesting!
[02:31] <gmachine_24> ............. cli still seems better
[02:32] <gmachine_24> imho
[02:32] <atari314> Hello. Ubuntu is 386 or 686?
[02:32] <vaccine> howdy folks, Im trying out ubuntu on a MacBook Air, but Im having some serious issues with the touchpad, I've looked around the forums, but haven't found much that is useful
[02:32] <vaccine> is there a trick to get drag and drop to work?
[02:32] <gmachine_24> vaccine: define "serious issues" and how about the Ubuntu version, hardware info etc.
[02:33] <vaccine> gmachine_24 11.10, macbook air 3,2
[02:33] <gmachine_24> atari314 how about both
[02:33] <CFHowlett> atari314   ubuntu has 386 and 686 versions
[02:33] <atari314> any specific location to get the 686 one? (ty)
[02:34] <gmachine_24> ubuntu.com
[02:34] <CFHowlett> atari314   same place you get the 386 - look for "amd" or "64"
[02:34] <vaccine> basically the touchpad won't work with 2 fingers on it like you'd expect it too.. making drag and drop not work as well
[02:34] <psusi> CFHowlett, I don't think so
[02:34] <erpo> atari314: Do you mean 686 or 64 bit?
[02:34] <atari314> 686
[02:34] <vaccine> s/as well/at all
[02:35] <Zillow> having an issue with dkms
[02:35] <CFHowlett> psusi   686 = 64 bit?
[02:35] <psusi> CFHowlett, no, 686 = pentium pro
[02:35] <Zillow> http://pastebin.com/iaMyurfX
[02:35] <gmachine_24> PLEASE don't just say "I have a problem" and waste a lot of space and time. Tell us your problem, your Ubuntu info and hardware info if you think it's relevant. This isn't a chat room.
[02:36]  * CFHowlett facepalms desk - repeatedly - ty for clarifying psusi
[02:36] <psusi> hehe
[02:36] <Gnea> !mysql
[02:36] <atari314> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/download << only shows me 32 or 64 versions... should I look on the ftp?
[02:37] <erpo> atari314: Is there a particular reason you need 686 and the 32-bit one won't meet your needs?
[02:37] <atari314> performance
[02:37] <psusi> atari314, there isn't a build specifically optimized for the ppro, mostly because it doesn't really make a difference
[02:37] <erpo> atari314: What are you trying to do that you find the performance of the i386 version inadequate?
[02:38] <atari314> yup, too slow, guess I'll have to stick with arch. Tyvm for the help tho.
[02:38] <Reid_> Hiya, I have 4 80gb, without being pro can I get this rolling software RAID-5 or JBOD or something like that to use just as a home desktop?
[02:38] <psusi> atari314, how do you figure?
[02:39] <erpo> atari314: Glad to hear arch is meeting your needs. :)
[02:39] <L3top> lol
[02:40] <erpo> Reid_: Why do you want RAID or JBOD?
[02:40] <psusi> Reid_, sure, you will need the alternate cd to setup raid
[02:41] <psusi> Reid_, though... how old of a computer is this?  and what interface?
[02:42] <Reid_> Right, I am downloading alternate one now.  Well I figured if I got RAID going I would have some redudancy, save some vacation pics on it.
[02:42] <gmachine_24> reid: you have 4 x 80GB hard drives, is this correct?
[02:42] <Jak2000> hi all
[02:42] <Reid_> Not sure what else to use 4 80gb hard drives for, thats correct.
[02:42] <psusi> Reid_, raid is not a substitute for backups... redundancy is not to prevent data loss, but to avoid having down time and having to restore from backups...
[02:42] <CFHowlett> Jak2000   greetings
[02:43] <gmachine_24> Jak2000 ask you ? please
[02:43] <erpo> Reid_: I would recommend installing onto one 80GB drive and then formatting and mounting the other ones where you need them. Simpler.
[02:43] <psusi> Reid_, are these old ide hard drives?  if they are THAT old, probably best to recycle them...
[02:43] <Jak2000> i am installed xwindows on ubuntu (on virtual box) http://imgur.com/vS9t7, but not find a terminal or how to restart, any advice? need insall other software?
[02:44] <psusi> erpo, having to manually manage different partitions is not simpler than one big fs
[02:44] <Reid_> Using my old computer, its E6660, on a Gigabyte board, it does have fake raid. They are 4 SATA drives, if I mounted all 4 drives, i would need to search through four drives to find things....
[02:45] <urfr332gO> Jak2000, is that the 2d?
[02:45] <erpo> psusi: I think it is. He wants more space, which means he needs RAID 0 or 5. You can't boot off of those raid levels, so he'd have to make a separate boot partition. If he chooses raid 5 for redundancy, he'll need to work with grub on multiple disks to make sure he can still boot if his primary disk fails.
[02:45] <psusi> Reid_, wow... sata but only 80 gb?  odd... avoid the fakeraid junk unless you have to dual boot with windows
[02:45] <motherbrain> does anybody know where I can get a list of valid asm interrupts on a linux machine.... I know of just one int 0x80 is that it? I can look up a bunch of bios int commands like 10h , 13h ,..etc their are tons but problem is I only want the vaild int commands when I am in user space?
[02:45] <psusi> erpo, you can boot off them just fine
[02:46] <erpo> psusi: I think we might be miscommunicating. Your can put / on raid 0 or 5, but you can't put /boot on raid 0 or 5.
[02:46] <psusi> erpo, yes, you can.... grub2 has supported that for a few years
[02:46] <motherbrain> is it just int 80h for linux and int 21h for dos/windows vaild in user space ... Anybody know for sure?
[02:46] <erpo> psusi: Wow.
[02:46] <Jak2000> urfr332gO yes
[02:46] <Jak2000> is the desktop (gui)
[02:47] <psusi> motherbrain, what?
[02:47] <psusi> erpo, when you install grub2 it even prompts you to select all of the drives to install to... no /boot needed
[02:47] <motherbrain> is int 80h and int 21h the only vaild interrupt asm commands in user spaces for dos/windows and linux ?
[02:47] <YohanMeister> hi
[02:48] <urfr332gO> Jak2000, your certainly missing the off or reboot..etc in the top right corner if you hit the off for te virtual it will give you the option, for powering off.
[02:48] <Reid_> Yea, not really sure what else to do with 80GB drives. Haha, can you make them appear as one volume in Ubuntu?
[02:48] <psusi> motherbrain, dos has tons of interrupts
[02:48] <motherbrain> like what?
[02:48] <psusi> Reid_, yes
[02:48] <psusi> motherbrain, google for Ralph Brown's interrupt list
[02:49] <psusi> motherbrain, that's the closest thing to a complete list I know of
[02:49] <Nima> Hi guys, my problem with the black screen is not resolved even after I set nomodeset
[02:49] <urfr332gO> Jak2000, I would just dual boot the ubuntu to be honest the virtual is chunky at best.
[02:50] <motherbrain> NO I DON'T think you understand those only work in kernel / before the os loads 16 bit mode .
[02:50] <psusi> motherbrain, and there is no user space in dos...
[02:50] <Jak2000> urfr332gO thx
[02:50] <urfr332gO> Jak2000, good to see you have XP installed. :)
[02:50] <Jak2000> not
[02:50] <Jak2000> cant
[02:51] <motherbrain> ok is windows and linux only int asm commands 21h and 80h
[02:51] <motherbrain> I know in 16 bit mode you can use Ralph Brown's interrupt list but not when you are already in 32 bit mode
[02:52] <psusi> motherbrain, and windows is another animal entirely... iirc, it's kernel syscall is.... hrm... I forget now... 2E was it?... int21 is the main dos service vector, not valid in non dos windows versions ( except when running a dos executable under emulation )
[02:52] <MrWizard> Using 11.10 on an averatec 2500, anytime I start a video in VLC the sound is all garbled and riddled with crackling and feedback...this corrects itself if I simply open the sound settings menu, but I'd like to find a cause and permanent solution for this if possible...any ideas?
[02:52] <Reid_> I'll just roll without the raid, thanks psusi and erpo.
[02:53] <erpo> MrWizard: Does this happen with all video formats or just one format? Does this happen with other video players?
[02:53] <deonyi> Someone help me, I need a software that would let me record my desktop.
[02:54] <bludshot> urfr332gO  I went to do the nomodeset thing, so I turned on the computer, hit Shift a bunch but the grub loader didn't come up, instead an error came up saying "Checking for running unattended-upgrades"python: can't open file '/usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrade-shutdown': [Errrno 2] No such file or directory
[02:54] <MrWizard> erpo: happens with any video format (have tried .avi wma wmv mp*'s mkvs, pretty much anything) and with any video player (vlc is simply my main one)
[02:54] <urfr332gO> bludshot, I don't have a idea on a fix for that, do you have a ecternal HD?
[02:55] <urfr332gO> external*
[02:55] <deonyi> I need a software that would let me record my screen and how to install it
[02:55] <bludshot> urfr332gO i have an external usb harddrive yeah, not currently in use with the computer that is having these problems
[02:55] <CFHowlett> deonyi   sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop
[02:55] <erpo> deonyi: Try googling for ubuntu record desktop. I found a result that way that seems like a good fit for you.
[02:56] <erpo> MrWizard: Does this happen with other OSs on the same hardware?
[02:56] <urfr332gO> bludshot, if it was me I measure the time to reinstall aaginst the fix which ever is shortest I do.
[02:56] <deonyi> CFHowlett thanks so much
[02:57] <CFHowlett> deonyi   have fun/be safe
[02:57] <MrWizard> erpo: No sir, and didn't happen with previous version of 'Buntu, just this latest one...its not even a big problem, just a bit of an annoyance, but I haven't been able to pin the cause down
[02:57] <PsiKloPx> was trying to install gimp throught the software manager but received this error "Package dependencies cannot be resolved"
[02:57] <urfr332gO> bludshot, but I also clone all installs.
[02:57] <bludshot> urfr332gO i have done extensive tweaking and stuff to this OS, and, this is already my 2nd go... I tried and tried and spent a bunch of time with mythbuntu and hit a wall of something i couldnt make work, so then i went to Lubuntu. I have spent craploads of time on this lubuntu, and since if i was to redo things i did before i would be doing the same things then its just as likely that i will
[02:57] <bludshot> experience this same problem imo
[02:58] <bludshot> so i guess fixing this is the shortest
[02:58] <bludshot> if its not
[02:58] <bludshot> the pc is going in the trash
[02:58] <PsiKloPx> tried 'sudo apt-get -f install' plus everything else I found on google...still broken
[02:58] <erpo> MrWizard: Have you tried changing the audio out module in vlc?
[02:59] <CFHowlett> PsiKloPx     see http://askubuntu.com/questions/60448/gimp-package-dependencies-cannot-be-resolved
[02:59] <L3top> PsiKloPx: chances are your sources.list is problematic
[02:59] <urfr332gO> bludshot, if you mix desltops and apps like that without cleaning them out your asking for trouble really, customizing is great but do it carefully.
[02:59] <urfr332gO> desktops*
[02:59] <naryfa> exactly
[02:59] <naryfa> be careful
[02:59] <L3top> and make lots of backups
[02:59] <bludshot> urfr332gO i did not mix desktops and apps, this was a clean lubuntu install, formatted machine
[02:59] <L3top> clonezilla is very helpful for that
[02:59] <naryfa> lots of backups
[02:59] <naryfa> true
[03:00] <MrWizard> erpo: yes, i completely lose sound on any settings other than default, ALSA, or pulse and the issue still persists with those settings
[03:00] <urfr332gO> bludshot, if you had a clone of when it worked you would be way ahead of the game.
[03:01] <bludshot> urfr332gO i had no idea i could do a "clone"
[03:01] <L3top> bludshot: look at clonezilla
[03:01] <urfr332gO> bludshot, clonezilla.org
[03:01] <L3top> 15 min back to perfect
[03:01] <CFHowlett> MrWizard   could it be hardware related?  Test audio with headphones...
[03:02] <L3top> can use over samba, ftp, external, whatever
[03:02] <erpo> CFHowlett: The crackling goes away when he opens the sound preferences window.
[03:02] <erpo> MrWizard: Anything funny in dmesg?
[03:02] <CFHowlett> erpo   thanks erpo ...
[03:02] <bludshot> good for the future, but tbh I doubt i would have made a clone yet... I was still in the middle of setting up this computer when this problem occurred
[03:02] <bludshot> i would likely not clone till i got everything set up
[03:02] <erpo> MrWizard: Actually, pastebin dmesg and we'll look at it.
[03:02] <L3top> every 2 hours, take 15 min and make a clone.
[03:02] <L3top> very sound way to go... saves time in the longrun
[03:03] <bludshot> L3top ok cool, next time i can get to my desktop i'll look into that
[03:03] <urfr332gO> bludshot, do it when it seems appropriate to you, nice insurance really.
[03:03] <bludshot> but until then,
[03:03] <MrWizard> CFHowlett: does it with headphones as well, in addition, when i plug headphones in the output in sound settings defaults to the headphone option and has no sound, switching the output back to the default allows sound to play through headphones
[03:03] <bludshot> i have this problem i need to solve :|
[03:03] <urfr332gO> bludshot, you might also try posting on the ubuntu forums the IRC is hit and miss really.
[03:03] <L3top> what is the problem again bludshot?
[03:04] <L3top> sorry I missed it
[03:04] <MrWizard> erpo: will do but give me some time since i have no idea how to do that (feels like an idiot)  looking it up now
[03:04] <bludshot> L3top let me go post on ubuntu and then link you because its a long story now
[03:04] <L3top> urfr332gO  I went to do the nomodeset thing, so I turned on the computer, hit Shift a bunch but the grub loader didn't come up, instead an error came up saying "Checking for running unattended-upgrades"python: can't open file '/usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrade-shutdown': [Errrno 2] No such file or directory
[03:04] <L3top> this one?
[03:05] <bludshot> yes (but there is more backstory as well, but yes)
[03:05] <erpo> MrWizard: Open a terminal, type dmesg, and hit enter. Then copy and paste everything that appears into pastebin.com.
[03:05] <L3top> k
[03:05] <bludshot> that is the latest issue
[03:05] <L3top> go make a post and I will read
[03:05] <urfr332gO> L3top, thats it. :)
[03:05] <bludshot> k
[03:05] <MrWizard> erpo: thankyou, one moment
[03:05] <Sasori2501> hey guys... need some advice.  thinking of buying Alienware M14x, but REALLY concerned about video card, nvidia 555m and integrated video (optimus tech i believe) will be instsalling 11.04.  will i be able to disable the integrated video for pure nvidia use????
[03:05] <PsiKloPx> CFHowlett: tried your link but still broken: (gimp : Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.2) but 2.30.0-0ubuntu4 is to be installed)
[03:06] <urfr332gO> Sasori2501, there is a wiki on cards.
[03:06] <CFHowlett> PsiKloPx   aaargh ...  the only workaround I can see is to install from source...
[03:06] <urfr332gO> !nvidia | Sasori2501
[03:06] <Sasori2501> urfr332gO: can you send me a link.  had optimus on my last laptop, and it was a nightmare trying to get compiz going
[03:07] <MrWizard> erpo: posted to pastebin under "MrWizard sound issu"
[03:07] <erpo> MrWizard: I'll need the URL
[03:07] <MrWizard> erpo: http://pastebin.com/7098b9UJ
[03:07] <dlentz> Sasori2501, avoid optimus like plague
[03:08] <MrWizard> erpo: sorry again, thankyou for your patience
[03:08] <urfr332gO> Sasori2501, I have never used nividia, maybe others can help here really, I would just start with a Google of the card and the release you want.
[03:08] <erpo> MrWizard: No problems. Thank you for choosing a good nick.
[03:08] <Nima> I'm trying to install Ubuntu, and I'm getting a black screen with nomodeset selected
[03:08] <dlentz> avoid any hybrid graphivs
[03:09] <MrWizard> Was suprised to find this nick was unregistered ^^
[03:09] <urfr332gO> Sasori2501, compiz is temperamental when tweaked as well.
[03:09] <urfr332gO> in unity
[03:09] <Sasori2501> dlentz: i know, but what solid gaming laptops come without it these days??? practically none...
[03:09] <starn> hey i am in desperate need of help with Audio...  two devices analog and digital... ALC1200 HDA intel.. i want to make sound stop playing on speakers when headphones plug in.. and or to split like say music player to speakers all others to headphones..
[03:10] <Sasori2501> urfr332gO: that page doesnt really go into optimus and disabling an integrated card to use a video card
[03:10] <urfr332gO> Sasori2501, I have never used nividia.
[03:10] <PsiKloPx> CFHowlett: <sigh> guess so...thanks
[03:11] <dlentz> yeah, nvidia's best for gaming, and you can use optirun with ironhide driver, but i doubt most (any?) of the laptops let you turn off the inte igp completely
[03:11] <xj88> Hi all. I have two machines, one is running 11.10 and the other is running 10.04. I have multiple USB hard drives. They worked on both machines consistently. All of a sudden, 11.10 mounts everything as read-only, even when using sudo to mount read/write. Still mounts read-only. This is true of both NTFS and ext3 external drives. What could cause such a change and how can I fix it?
[03:11] <CFHowlett> PsiKloPx   source we couldn't find an easier solution.   Good luck.
[03:12] <CFHowlett> *sorry*
[03:13] <Sasori2501> dlentz: ok i will look into that.  need a viable solution cause i really want to run effects on it.  last attempt with optimus was a nightmare.
[03:14] <bludshot> L3top: here is the post about my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1932144
[03:16] <urfr332gO> bludshot, have to changed the grub timeout?
[03:16] <urfr332gO> you
[03:16] <bludshot> urfr332gO certainly not wittingly no
[03:17] <urfr332gO> bludshot, cool.
[03:17] <xj88> My other problem: I have a Motorola Droid X. When I plug it into 10.04, a usb mass storage dialogue comes up and everything works great. This was also true of 11.10 until this morning, when suddenly nothing happens when I plug the phone into 11.10. The phone sees the connection, but 11.10 doesn't pick up on the phone at all. What could cause such a change and how can I fix it?
[03:17] <erpo> MrWizard: I have to get going, but I may have a lead for you.
[03:17] <bludshot> urfr332gO I mean I can try to restart the computer and hit shift to get the grub menu again, and maybe succeed if that is the right thing to try next. But now im like .. what is up with this other error
[03:18] <MrWizard> erpo: any leads would be appreciated
[03:18] <CFHowlett> *No grub for me!* Single OS atm, ubuntu doesn't display grub, just goes straight to login screen.  What to do?
[03:18] <erpo> MrWizard: According to your dmesg, you have an ALC888 audio chip. Users have reported that when the PCM volume is set to 0, crackling sounds can be heard over the intended audio. Opening the mixer resets the PCM volume and fixes this problem.
[03:18] <urfr332gO> bludshot, yeah me to, just add to the thread if any thing changes .
[03:18] <erpo> MrWizard: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/148969-pulse-audio-does-nothing-but-crackle.html
[03:18] <erpo> MrWizard: I would try to get someone to help you set up your system so that your PCM volume will get set to an appropriate value on startup.
[03:19] <MrWizard> erpo: thankyou for your help, i'll look into it, and have a good evening/morning/afternoon
[03:19] <xangua> CFHowlett: you can display grub pressing Shift when you turn on the machine
[03:19] <urfr332gO> CFHowlett, you change the time out so the key prompt is not working. A single install bypasses the grub menu.
[03:19] <erpo> MrWizard: Thanks. Have a good day.
[03:20] <CFHowlett> urfr332gO   but I've got 2 kernels - realtime and default.  I'd have thought..
[03:20] <CFHowlett> xangua   urfr332g0 thanks
[03:20] <L3top> bludshot: http://pastebin.com/czXAHQcz that is my unattended-upgrade-shutdown
[03:20] <L3top> so... what I would do if I was you
[03:21] <L3top> is live boot from dvd
[03:21] <L3top> get into that machine via console
[03:21] <L3top> mkdir -p /usr/share/unattended-upgrades
[03:21] <L3top> create the file unattended-upgrade-shutdown
[03:22] <L3top> chmod +x unattended-upgrade-shutdown
[03:22] <L3top> reboot
[03:22] <L3top> see if that works for you.
[03:22] <bludshot> will the live cd see the drive? anything special i gotta do for that?
[03:23] <L3top> yes, and no.
[03:23] <L3top> just open whatever file manager on whatever distro
[03:23] <L3top> and it should be available
[03:23] <L3top> click and it should mount
[03:23] <L3top> if you are on ubuntu live
[03:23] <L3top> press ctrl l
[03:23] <L3top> that will show the path
[03:23] <L3top> which will probably be something like /media/disk
[03:23] <L3top> open console
[03:24] <bludshot> are you saying I shold copy the contents of your file from the pastebin or just make an empty file
[03:24] <L3top> cd /media/disk
[03:24] <L3top> I would put mine in there
[03:24] <L3top> or find the original because I am a stranger
[03:24] <L3top> depending on your level of paranoia
[03:24] <bludshot> well im going to assume that somebody on here would warn me if you tried to feed me some bad file heh
[03:25] <L3top> nobody knows me
[03:25] <bludshot> but they know bad files
[03:25] <L3top> llol
[03:25] <vaccine> Im trying to get some packages installed and apt-get is telling me it is unable to locate them.  I've run apt-get update, but it doesn't seem help, am I missing something?
[03:25] <L3top> nobody is going to proof it... but...
[03:25] <L3top> its straight from a fresh install
[03:25] <bludshot> well dont fail me ubuntu community!
[03:25] <bludshot> ;)
[03:25] <L3top> its open source
[03:25] <bludshot> yeah i will go try this stuff
[03:25] <xj88> Hi all. I have two machines, one is running 11.10 and the other is running 10.04. I have multiple USB hard drives. They worked on both machines consistently. All of a sudden, 11.10 mounts everything as read-only, even when using sudo to mount read/write. Still mounts read-only. This is true of both NTFS and ext3 external drives. What could cause such a change and how can I fix it?
[03:25] <L3top> you can find the source file
[03:26] <urfr332gO> vaccine, what's the package?
[03:26] <vaccine> urfr332gO xf86-input-multitouch
[03:27] <vaccine> running 11.10
[03:27] <trism> !info xserver-xorg-input-multitouch | vaccine
[03:29] <urfr332gO> vaccine, this is what synaptic saysin 11.10 with that name. http://imagebin.org/201005
[03:32] <vaccine> sorry, Im new to this, how does that help?
[03:32] <trism> vaccine: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-multitouch;
[03:32] <xj88> My other problem: I have a Motorola Droid X. When I plug it into 10.04, a usb mass storage dialogue comes up and everything works great. This was also true of 11.10 until this morning, when suddenly nothing happens when I plug the phone into 11.10. The phone sees the connection, but 11.10 doesn't pick up on the phone at all. What could cause such a change and how can I fix it?
[03:33] <vaccine> E: Unable to locate package xserver-xorg-input-multitouch
[03:34] <trism> vaccine: do you have universe enabled?
[03:34] <vaccine> trism, I don't know =)
[03:35] <trism> vaccine: software-properties-gtk; check the universe box
[03:36] <vaccine> ok, checked it
[03:36] <vaccine> now do I have to do an update again?
[03:36] <trism> vaccine: yes, then you should be able to install it
[03:37] <jsoft> How do I have a script be notified when new media is inserted? Ie, flash drive, cdrom
[03:39] <xj88> Hi all. I have two machines, one is running 11.10 and the other is running 10.04. I have multiple USB hard drives. They worked on both machines consistently. All of a sudden, 11.10 mounts everything as read-only, even when using sudo to mount read/write. Still mounts read-only. This is true of both NTFS and ext3 external drives. What could cause such a change and how can I fix it?
[03:39] <Jordan_U> jsoft: "udisks --monitor" sounds like it might be useful. See "man udisks" for more info.
[03:39] <vaccine> ok, got it installed
[03:40] <urfr332gO> xj88, have you unmounted it in general or just unplugged it?
[03:40] <Gnea> !ppa
[03:40] <vaccine> next thing it says is to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. but I don't seem to have one
[03:40] <xj88> urfr332g0: I always unmount my drives safely. And they are still working fine on 10.04.
[03:40] <jsoft> Jordan_U: hmmm, sounds interesting
[03:41] <Deihmos> havign trouble installing ubuntu to raid 0. Seems like every other version breaks this type of installation
[03:42] <javierf_> Hi. I'm using ubuntu 11.10. Why when changing metacity there the up bar doesn't change with it? It remains dark or light as radiance/ambiance
[03:42] <L3top> is anyone familiar with the <<deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt lucid main restricted universe multiverse>> way of handling sources?
[03:42] <urfr332gO> javierf_, which desktop?
[03:42] <javierf_> urfr332gO, unity
[03:43] <javierf_> urfr332gO, I meant the panel
[03:43] <urfr332gO> javierf_, unity is aplugin in compiz
[03:43] <masterpck10> hi
[03:44] <urfr332gO> metacity is not used unless you load it, at what exspense I have no idea. javierf_
[03:44] <L3top> because I am experimenting with our project snapshot and using local mirrors seems the easiest way to handle source mangling... however I just ran it and I get a bunch of CD-ROM attempts and errors. No there are none in my sources.list
[03:44] <javierf_> urfr332gO, I see... but why it changes sometimes and no others??? There are some dark themes that change the panel to dark, and some light ones that do the proper thing to light. But others don't do it
[03:45] <urfr332gO> javierf_, no idea.
[03:46] <javierf_> urfr332gO, ok, thanks anyway for the key that works as a plugin :)
[03:46] <urfr332gO> javierf_, no problem.
[03:47] <javierf_> anyone else has an idea how to adapt unity panel to the theme I'm using? Why it adapts sometimes and sometimes no=?
[03:47] <urfr332gO> javierf_, I think the unity panel is unchangeable I thought you meant the top panel.
[03:47] <Guest55005> any sucessful experience with openldap? anyone?
[03:47] <onats> hey all, anyone here deploy thin clients with ubuntu?
[03:48] <L3top> any update bludshot?
[03:48] <L3top> I do.
[03:48] <L3top> well... the project I work on does Guest55005
[03:48] <urfr332gO> javierf_, you can mess with it a little in comizconfig settings manager nothing like theme change though.
[03:48] <nRy> hi
[03:49] <zeleftikam> Iran is DDoSing me, what do i do?
[03:49] <zeleftikam> ICMP dest unrch (port) (106 bytes) from cloud2012 to 91.98.44.225.pol.ir
[03:49] <bastidrazor> zeleftikam: unplug your computer from the internet
[03:49] <taipres> lookup who the ip space belongs too and report it
[03:49] <zeleftikam> actually i have that access right here
[03:49] <zeleftikam> let me check
[03:49] <javierf_> urfr332gO, ok, I guess you are right, I meant the top panel. Thanks one more. I have checked CCSM, but unfortunatelly, this can't be done. It's just strange that I can't get the same colours there that I have at the rest of the screen, and with other themes there is no problem
[03:49] <zeleftikam> ah ha, it's mahmoud iminadinnerjacket
[03:50] <urfr332gO> javierf_, you might look at the OMGubuntu site they seem to have a lot of tweaks.
[03:54] <onats> can anyone recommend a thin client that works well with ubuntu?
[03:54] <gordon> Hey guys...I installed n2n for ubuntu but I can't seem to get it to run
[03:54] <Guest47447> is this the appropriate room for ubuntu applications support?
[03:58] <xj88> Hi all. I have two machines, one is running 11.10 and the other is running 10.04. I have multiple USB hard drives. They worked on both machines consistently. All of a sudden, 11.10 mounts everything as read-only, even when using sudo to mount read/write. Still mounts read-only. This is true of both NTFS and ext3 external drives. What could cause such a change and how can I fix it?
[04:00] <Guest47447> Does anyone know anything about the n2n issue?
[04:00] <L3top> xj88... I can't remember what does that... but it is an easy fix from what I remember
[04:00] <orlok> n2n?
[04:00] <orlok> the VPN tunnel tool?
[04:00] <Guest47447> orlok: yes
[04:00] <xj88> L3top: That is the way of these things. ;)
[04:01] <Guest47447> orlok: i got it to install, but don't know how to make it run
[04:01] <Guest47447> orlok: I am new to this
[04:01] <xj88> L3top: Easy if you know what you're doing, nigh-impossible if you don't know the magic words.
[04:01] <orlok> Guest47447: No, but one of the developers is a few meters away from me!
[04:01] <L3top> lol... looking around...
[04:01] <Guest47447> orlok: oh my god...could I talk to him?!
[04:02] <orlok> Guest47447: meeting sorry heh.. i have never actually used n2n
[04:02] <MrKeuner> hello, have been using chromium for my default broswer for a while, tried changing default browser to Firefox using gnome preferred applications dialog. still chromium opens when clicked on a gnome launcher but chromium warns that it is not the default broser :)
[04:02] <MrKeuner> what's the problem here?
[04:02] <Guest47447> orlok: oh...damn...well...damn
[04:03] <isaac__> so
[04:03] <isaac__> question
[04:03] <isaac__> assuming you all are Linux users
[04:03] <javierf_> still googling it... someone knows why in unity top panel not always adapt to the theme you are using? any way to change them together?
[04:04] <toafan> 'Scuzzi.  Can someone point me to the location of all the .desktop launcher files?
[04:04] <isaac__> Actually nevermind
[04:04] <toafan> @isaac__ well... ubuntu is a linux distro
[04:04] <toafan> I'd be surprised to find a non-user here
[04:05] <MrKeuner> toafan, try find / -name *.desktop
[04:05] <urfr332gO> mrhanky, system settings-sytem info
[04:06] <urfr332gO> MrKeuner, system settings-sytem info
[04:06] <urfr332gO> sorry mrhanky my bad
[04:06] <MrKeuner> urfr332gO, not sure I understood you correctly?
[04:07] <MrKeuner> are you referring me to an application named system?
[04:07] <urfr332gO> MrKeuner, that is a app set you can set the default apps used.
[04:07] <erpingham> Hi.  I'm using Ubuntu 11.10, and when I log out of my main user account, it  returns to the login manager, but when I log back in, the session hangs  just after loading my desktop background but before loading unity
[04:08] <urfr332gO> system settings-system info-default applications, follow the apps grasshopper MrKeuner
[04:08] <MrKeuner> urfr332gO, aren't you talking about gnome-default-applications-properties
[04:09] <toafan> erpingham, not that I've got anything, but does it hang for good? (IE more than say 5 min) or does it come back?
[04:09] <MrKeuner> urfr332gO, that's what i changed initiallay, which did not seem to work
[04:09] <urfr332gO> MrKeuner, in 11.10 which I'm running that is the path.
[04:09] <erpingham> toafan, basically the desktop session is hanged probably for at least 5 minutes. I can still switch to virtual terminals though.
[04:10] <erpingham> toafan, basically it has never come back for me.
[04:11] <toafan> @erpingham hrom... my modus operendi is to go away for some indeterminate amount of time (nethack or something) and come back to see if it changed.
[04:11] <toafan> more than 5 minutes is frankly unresonable though
[04:12] <erpingham> toafan, ok i'll try doing that while doing homework or something, but suppose it does or does not come back--any ideas about what i should do? I've tried logging out/in using the gnome classic and unity 2D and they work fine.
[04:13] <xj88> Hi all. I have two machines, one is running 11.10 and the other is running 10.04. I have multiple USB hard drives. They worked on both machines consistently. All of a sudden, 11.10 mounts everything as read-only, even when using sudo to mount read/write. Still mounts read-only. This is true of both NTFS and ext3 external drives. What could cause such a change and how can I fix it?
[04:14] <MrKeuner> anyone using lenovo x200 laptop with 11.10? how does hibernate and suspend work?
[04:14] <urfr332gO> MrKeuner, it could be that the gnome launcher needs to be changed to FF as default, with permissions it is helpful to name exactly what your ding as far as a app or file etc.
[04:14] <toafan> erpingham I got nothing -- try loging in on something else and then back in?
[04:14] <urfr332gO> doing*
[04:14] <chipotle> hi, should i have used master boot record when i install ubuntu rather than guid?
[04:14] <Exodus> xj88, does the kernel drop anything at you?
[04:15] <universo> Help me out with this homework? The ____ command shows you the entire path and file name for anything containing the text string you indicate. FIND, TOUCH, DLOCATE, SLOCATE.
[04:15] <xj88> Exodus: How can I find out?
[04:15] <urfr332gO> universo, no home work here.
[04:15] <Exodus> xj88, check /var/log/syslog
[04:15] <universo> Where can I get homework help?
[04:15] <urfr332gO> universo, frrom your professor.
[04:16] <Exodus> universo, FIND a teacher
[04:16] <urfr332gO> universo, or other students.
[04:16] <xj88> universo: I'd recommend looking up those various commands on a wiki or with man. Shouldn't be hard to find the answer (which I don't know)
[04:16] <Exodus> universo, ;)
[04:16] <r0b-> uery flyback
[04:16] <universo> Exodus: Your advice is greatly appreciated, I will find my way to campus
[04:18] <toafan> looking for .desktop launchers, find / -name *.desktop didn't come up with any useful results
[04:18] <Exodus> universo, yes, you should "find -iname" a teacher, that way you don't get upper or lowercase issues
[04:18] <xj88> Exodus: It says write protect is off, but write cache is disabled. Is that a clue? (hopeful)
[04:18] <toafan> maybe try again, with sudo?
[04:18] <chipotle> hi, can i install win7 after i installed ubuntu?
[04:18] <Exodus> xj88, hehe not really
[04:19] <toafan> (in that case, how to exclude dirs?)
[04:19] <Exodus> xj88, do this: open a terminal and type: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[04:19] <Exodus> xj88, then, plug the hard drive
[04:19] <MrKeuner> toafan, must be something similar to /usr/share/applications...
[04:19] <Exodus> it should give you in 'realtime' what the kernel is logging
[04:19] <chipotle> i need to create a MBR partition for ubuntu, correct? not GUID?
[04:20] <xj88> Exodus: Oooh (from last time): NTFS driver 2.1.30 [Flags: R/O MODULE]
[04:20] <Exodus> xj88, also, try: sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/DEVICE
[04:20] <urfr332gO> chipotle, sure you will have to reload the mbr though to get grub.
[04:20] <toafan> chipotle, you could (win7 after ubuntu) -- same way you can install ubuntu after win7 ;)
[04:20] <Exodus> xj88, see, that's an error
[04:20] <Exodus> xj88, it could be that it didn't shut down properly and it's loading RO
[04:21] <MrKeuner> toafan, also checkout ~/.local/share/applications
[04:21] <xj88> Exodus: But it doesn't on my other two machines?
[04:21] <toafan> chipotle, trick is the windows bootloader has a nasty reputation...
[04:21] <xj88> Exodus: Any idea how to clear that?
[04:21] <Exodus> xj88, diff version of kernels and software
[04:21] <urfr332gO> chipotle, ah guid your on your own there I have no clue.
[04:21] <xj88> Exodus: That makes sense.
[04:21] <Exodus> xj88, there's a program, called ntfsfix, or something like that
[04:21] <Exodus> xj88, or maybe: fsck.ntfs /dev/DEVICE
[04:21] <chipotle> toafan: i think i will wipe ubuntu and then install win7
[04:21] <Exodus> sudo it
[04:22] <chipotle> urfr332gO: so i should select mbr and not guid when creating a partition type?
[04:22] <Exodus> xj88, I'm giving all this from the top of my head since I'm on a live CD atm without anything installed =b
[04:22] <chipotle> what partition type do i create when i wipe the boot drive and want to partition for ubuntu and windows 7?
[04:22] <toafan> chipotle: from there you could re-install ubuntu if you're after dual-boot
[04:22] <urfr332gO> chipotle, I have never had a GUID set up not sure really.
[04:22] <chipotle> urfr332gO: toafan ^ i will use ntfs for win7, i guess
[04:22] <Exodus> xj88, but look for those command-line apps
[04:23] <toafan> chipotle yeah, ntfs for windows is the way to go
[04:23] <chipotle> toafan: okay, but how do i partition the drive? what do you recommend? 50GB for windows7 using ntfs, what about ubuntu?
[04:23] <toafan> chipotle totaly depends
[04:23] <chipotle> toafan: should i leave 50GB for the entire install on one drive, and then i can have info on other drives? (i have 6 hdd's in my system)
[04:23] <chipotle> toafan: on?
[04:23] <Exodus> xj88, ntfsfix should do it
[04:23] <chipotle> i want to keep the ubuntu install on its own drive, preferably
[04:23] <chipotle> erm, partition
[04:24] <toafan> drive size, drives available, prime/prefered boot...
[04:24] <toafan> I could probably go on
[04:24] <toafan> I used the ubuntu instalation partitioning tool on my system
[04:24] <chipotle> toafan: i have 1 ssd that will hold the two OS's, 1 500GB, 2 3TB and a 2TB drive. the 3TB is for media, the 2TB and 500GB drive is for backups
[04:25] <MrKeuner> hello, have been using chromium for my default broswer for a while, tried changing default browser to Firefox using gnome preferred applications dialog. still chromium opens when clicked on a gnome launcher but chromium warns that it is not the default broser :)
[04:25] <MrKeuner> how to change the default browser?
[04:25] <toafan> wait, backup to the 2tb, not the 3tb?
[04:25] <toafan> hrm. ok
[04:26] <Exodus> MrKeuner, open firefox and set it in the preferences.
[04:26] <xj88> Exodus: ntfsfix ran successfully but the drive still mounts read-only
[04:26] <MrKeuner> Exodus, thanks, wondering how they actually set that
[04:26] <chipotle> toafan: backup drives are a network drive for apple computers
[04:27] <Exodus> MrKeuner, it's in gconf
[04:27] <chipotle> not backing up the media
[04:27] <Guest47447> does anyone know anything about n2n?
[04:27] <Exodus> MrKeuner, some apps use gconf, some don't
[04:27] <Exodus> MrKeuner, tis why you'll sometimes get some apps opening something else
[04:27] <MrKeuner> Exodus, I see
[04:27] <toafan> chipotle, plan out if you want to share between the OSes without external drives.  eg in my laptop I have a share partition
[04:27] <Exodus> MrKeuner, it's kind of like proxy settings, they're also in gconf, but firefox has it in its preferences and doesn't use gconf's one
[04:28] <toafan> if it's a desktop that's probably moot
[04:28] <chipotle> yes, it's a desktop
[04:28] <Exodus> xj88, did you do a manual remount like I mentioned?
[04:28] <Exodus> xj88, ex: sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdXx
[04:28] <toafan> I'd probably give windows more space on the SSD, if it's larger than like 20-30 fifs
[04:29] <toafan> *gigs
[04:29] <Exodus> xj88, check what the kernel says of running that
[04:29] <MrKeuner> Exodus, actually, setting in firefox did not work either
[04:29] <MrKeuner> :)
[04:29] <toafan> ubuntu can only use stuff installed to compatible partitions (not on windows)
[04:30] <toafan> but doesn't seem to need as much space
[04:30] <Exodus> MrKeuner, you said a gnome-launcher, what do you mean by that? a shortcut you created on the desktop or a menu?
[04:30] <MrKeuner> Exodus, on desktop contect menu gives you a link to create a launcher
[04:30] <MrKeuner> Exodus, they use xdg-open
[04:31] <toafan> I've got all my docs, configs etc on a separate partition, auto-mounted and symlinked -- that may be overkill. depends on updates
[04:31] <MrKeuner> launcher is on desktop, a .desktop file of some sort
[04:31] <Exodus> well, xdg-open uses gconf if I'm not mistaken
[04:33] <Exodus> MrKeuner, what Ubuntu release #?
[04:33] <MrKeuner> 10.04.4
[04:33] <xj88> Exodus: Weird problem. What I get is that /dev/sdb1 is not found in fstab or mtab (it is in fstab, I'm looking at it).
[04:34] <MrKeuner> Exodus, /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http is updated with firefox when I choose firefox in gnome-default-applications-properties
[04:34] <Exodus> xj88, is this a removable drive?
[04:34] <MrKeuner> but still chromium launches with warning that it's not the default
[04:34] <xj88> Exodus: Yeah, USB hard drive.
[04:34] <sacarlson> xj88:  maybe not found with user in it?
[04:34] <Exodus> MrKeuner, what does /desktop/gnome/applications/browser/exec say?
[04:35] <toafan> chipotle, you good?
[04:35] <Exodus> xj88, remove it from /etc/fstab, shouldn't be there in the first place
[04:35] <chipotle> toafan: ya, thanks :)
[04:35] <god-zotac> MrKeuner:: thats a common problem with chrome / chromium
[04:35] <MrKeuner> Exodus, firefox
[04:35] <Exodus> xj88, FUSE manages removable media
[04:35] <Exodus> MrKeuner, weird
[04:35] <toafan> welcome :) glad I could help
[04:35] <MrKeuner> god-zotac, that it owns the browsing feature?
[04:35] <crimsonmane> what would be the most appropriate channel for my question? using mint 11, virtualbox4.0 is installed but i cannot find it.
[04:36] <xj88> Exodus: Done, but I'm still getting the error (when attempting the command you suggested) that it's not found in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:36] <god-zotac> MrKeuner:: it sets as default browser for the desktop environment but it doesn't read from the same file to do the default check when opening chrom{e,ium}
[04:36] <urfr332gO> crimsonmane, the mint channel
[04:36] <Exodus> xj88, well it's not going to work now that you removed it :P I'm guessing it's not mounted
[04:36] <crimsonmane> urfr332g0 can you be more specific using the # symbol?
[04:37] <urfr332gO> crimsonmane, or #vbox hard to tell what te problem actually is.
[04:37] <Exodus> xj88, fstab is a file for when your computer is booting and it pretty much says what should be mounted on boot
[04:37] <Exodus> xj88, mtab is a file that keeps track of what's mounted
[04:37] <Exodus> xj88, so if it's not in your mtab, it's not mounted
[04:37] <MrKeuner> god-zotac, then I'll have to remove chromium totally for now
[04:37] <god-zotac> MrKeuner:: why?
[04:37] <MrKeuner> i need firefox to be the default
[04:38] <god-zotac> MrKeuner:: all you have to do is set firefox as default in your Desktop Environment's default applications
[04:38] <bludshot> L3top I added that file like we talked about and now it does boot to desktop. But there's no task bar or 'start menu'
[04:38] <MrKeuner> god-zotac, I did, that does not worl
[04:38] <xj88> Exodus: That makes sense to me. But now when I run sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/external (which exists) I just get the error that it's not found in fstab. Why should that matter?
[04:38] <urfr332gO> god-zotac, I told them that deemed to not register.
[04:38] <L3top> lol
[04:38] <Exodus> xj88, and if it's not mounted, and you have files under that mount point, those files aren't in that removable drive, they're in whatever device has a higher mount point up in the tree, in any sane configuration it should be your root partition /
[04:38] <L3top> you blowed that guy up real good
[04:38] <urfr332gO> semed*
[04:38] <L3top> try adding a new user
[04:39] <MrKeuner> god-zotac, you mean gnome-default-applications-properties, right?
[04:39] <L3top> or...
[04:39] <L3top>  I wonder if you could just copy everything from the skel dir
[04:39] <L3top> one second
[04:39] <god-zotac> MrKeuner:: i'm not using gnome, so i can't tell you step by step how to do it in gnome
[04:39] <bludshot> L3top maybe this is because i did dpkg-reconfigure lxdm?
[04:39] <Exodus> god-zotac, he already has firefox configured there sadly.
[04:40] <xj88> Exodus: "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/external" is now coming up with "warning: /media/external seems to be mounted read-only"
[04:40] <god-zotac> Exodus:: sounds like a .desktop file just needs edited then..
[04:40] <skypce> hey guys,
[04:40] <god-zotac> not sure if he is just wanting firefox to launch when clicking html files, or when clicking a link in another application like xchat/irc. or what
[04:40] <skypce> i have a good idea for preview windows
[04:40] <skypce> do you want listen me?
[04:41] <MrKeuner> god-zotac, gnome-launchers
[04:41] <god-zotac> Exodus:: or if he is just simply trying to get the Web Browser  shortcut to launch firefox
[04:41] <MrKeuner> god-zotac, .desktop files that use xdg-open to open a url
[04:41] <Exodus> MrKeuner, what exactly is it you're trying to open, or what is this link trying to open?
[04:41] <god-zotac> gnome-launchers?
[04:41] <MrKeuner> let me post the file somewhere
[04:42] <toafan> Arg...  trying to set up firefox to use an external irc program
[04:42] <Exodus> MrKeuner, does the desktop-file have something like: xdg-open "URL" ?
[04:42] <bludshot> hey guys i booted into desktop and i have no task bar or start menu for some reason
[04:42] <urfr332gO> toafan, chatzilla?
[04:42] <MrKeuner> Exodus, god-zotac http://pastebin.com/QSR5Nqf6
[04:42] <toafan> went looking for a .desktop launcher to point it to.  no such luck
[04:42] <skypce> i think may be a good idea, create a compiz plugin for docky that in docky windows list show a real size screen of window when hover by docky window app list
[04:43] <Exodus> xj88, well, removing the file from fstab should have it appearing in your nautilus for normal user mounting
[04:43] <toafan> urpr332gO ATM I'm using Smuxi
[04:43] <L3top> bludshot: try cp -r /etc/skel/.[a-zA-Z0-9]* /home/YOURUSER; cp -r /etc/skel/* /home/YOURUSER
[04:43] <Exodus> xj88, I mean, removable hard drives are automagically open now, you don't have to add them to fstab
[04:43] <L3top> where YOURUSER is clearly your user
[04:43] <urfr332gO> skypce, let compiz know eh.
[04:43] <god-zotac> MrKeuner:: just change exo-web-browser.desktop Exec line to say firefox instead of the exo-open --launch WebBrowser  %u
[04:43] <ninux> pizza :)
[04:44] <god-zotac> MrKeuner:: firefox %s   i think might be appropriate
[04:44] <toafan> urfr332gO also have irssi available if that helps :(
[04:44] <xj88> Exodus: I know. I only tried that when they stopped working.
[04:44] <MrKeuner> god-zotac, I cannot do that, there are zillions of launchers around
[04:44] <bludshot> i will go try that now
[04:44] <god-zotac> zillions of launchers?
[04:44] <urfr332gO> toafan, chatzilla is FF plugin I use xchat myself.
[04:44] <L3top> might wanna reboot after bludshot
[04:44] <god-zotac> if you want firefox to always open from anything then what i said should fix that
[04:44] <MrKeuner> launchers like the file I posted
[04:44] <xj88> Exodus: Here's the thing: This happens across four separate external drives. They *all* started mounting read-only on this machine all at once. The problem isn't the drives, it's gotta be some obscure config file that went and horked itself.
[04:44] <skypce> urfr332gO,  ok , it will be as example a window preview but maximized , when you hover over docky app list
[04:45] <MrKeuner> god-zotac, I don't want firefox to open all, I need the default browser then to open all
[04:45] <skypce> urfr332gO,  it will be great for people as me that have vision problems
[04:45] <god-zotac> so i thought you wanted firefox to be the default browser?
[04:45] <MrKeuner> god-zotac, thanks anyways
[04:45] <MrKeuner> for now yes
[04:46] <god-zotac> hrm.. when you want to change it to something else just edit that file and change it to what you want it to be..
[04:46] <MrKeuner> :)
[04:46] <MrKeuner> all right, thanks for trying to help
[04:46] <toafan> OK, try this: does anyone know how to connect to basicly random irc servers?
[04:46] <urfr332gO> skypce, you going to make this?
[04:46] <god-zotac> hmm ok.. not sure what else you are wanting to hear..
[04:46] <Exodus> MrKeuner, open a terminal and type: xdg-open http://www.google.com
[04:46] <Exodus> MrKeuner, does it open in firefox or chrome?
[04:47] <skypce> no i want contribute with idea urfr332gO , i am themer , :S i do not know about development
[04:47] <MrKeuner> Exodus, that opens firefox
[04:47] <MrKeuner> Exodus, clicking on launcher file opens chromium with warning
[04:47] <toafan> I see "connect irc server port", I think I get that...
[04:47] <skypce> haha , may be with your help :P
[04:47] <toafan> default irc port?
[04:48] <urfr332gO> skypce, me neither. :)
[04:48] <bludshot> L3top how do i get to console
[04:48] <Exodus> MrKeuner, well, it seams like chromium is cached somewhere, because that .desktop file looks ok, try re-entering you session, relog
[04:48] <L3top> ctrl alt f2
[04:48] <L3top> should drop you to tty2
[04:48] <bludshot> k
[04:48] <MrKeuner> Exodus, i see
[04:48] <god-zotac> MrKeuner:: xdg-settings check --manual default-web-browser
[04:49] <MrKeuner> xdg-settings: command not found
[04:49] <Exodus> xj88, hmm, ok, try this, unmount all the drives, create a new user with admin privileges, loginto that user, and plug the drives
[04:49] <Exodus> xj88, that way you'll check if it's some bogus config in your userdir
[04:49] <xj88> Exodus: Sounds like fun. I'll give that a shot =)
[04:49] <Exodus> xj88, or if it's a system-wide thing
[04:49] <god-zotac> MrKeuner:: install it then
[04:50] <god-zotac> xdg-settings get default-web-browser
[04:50] <motherbrain> curious I am try understand in linux from the ground up I am curious what function is called first when linux is loaded ... i.e linux's kernel entry point. And I am also curious if I run linux os in a virtualbox if their is away to debug/set break point in it easily ... I have used boche in the passed but it really was a pain to set break points and dump function stack
[04:50] <god-zotac> MrKeuner:: sudo apt-get install xdg-utils
[04:50] <MrKeuner> thanks for help, Exodus, god-zotac
[04:50] <god-zotac> motherbrain:: init is the root of all processes
[04:51] <god-zotac> motherbrain:: bootloader loads the kernel. kernel loads the init process. then OS runs startup scripts
[04:51] <motherbrain> yes but their are functions called before init like what starts init ,..etc
[04:51] <toafan> well.  Got my IRC problem fixed :) everything eles can wait
[04:52] <Exodus> motherbrain, open the kernel source, init is the first process called after the kernel is loaded
[04:52] <motherbrain> basically I want to know the kernel entry point.. init is just the parent process that starts other process
[04:52] <bludshot> L3top ctrl alt f2 doesnt do anything
[04:52] <god-zotac> motherbrain:: usually in the kernel config there is a cmdline boot option or in your grub/lilo boot loader (or other loader)
[04:52] <Exodus> motherbrain, the first function in the kernel is probably the main() one ;-)
[04:53] <god-zotac> motherbrain:: have you took a look at the kernel configuration at all?
[04:53] <motherbrain> is it named main , or kmain , or some thing else ? where in the source can I find it
[04:53] <god-zotac> motherbrain:: its easiest to see a good layout of how the kernel is put together if you use xconfig
[04:53] <motherbrain> which configurations ?
[04:53] <Exodus> motherbrain, this might be of help to you: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linux-kernel/
[04:53] <god-zotac> motherbrain:: not sure what you are asking about the actual source.. the kernel is made up of tons of different pieces
[04:53] <toafan> bludshot: what distro? (missed it) try ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[04:54] <bludshot> toafan i tried ctrl-alt-f1  and ctrl-alt-del  nothing happens. I can move the mouse cursor around though. it's Lubuntu
[04:55] <christinepea777> i have the same issue as bludshot
[04:55] <god-zotac> motherbrain:: are you wanting to know what the first thing the kernel is doing when it loads? or are you wanting to know how it calls init? or are you wanting to know how the kernel knows to call init?
[04:55] <bludshot> well, i doubt its precisely the same
[04:55] <bludshot> i also have no task bar and start menu
[04:55] <christinepea777> except that i can't move the cursor. my screen freezes and I get distored colors until i press ctrl+alt+F7
[04:55] <motherbrain> I just wanted to know when the bootloader loads the linux kernel what function is the first function it jumps to . "i.e the kernel entry point I would presume"
[04:55] <bludshot> I feel like i should just reboot, but i dont know how
[04:55] <LinuxApprentice> motherbrain: init
[04:56] <LinuxApprentice> inittab?
[04:56] <god-zotac> init isn't the first function it jumps to
[04:56] <L3top> bludshot: boot live dvd
[04:56] <Exodus> motherbrain, this could also help: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linuxboot/index.html
[04:56] <toafan> bludshot no idea what ctrl-alt-del does on linux. --f1 or --f2 should have hit you a tty though. got nada :(
[04:56] <motherbrain> I am wanting to look at the function source code that calls init
[04:56] <bludshot> L3top, before i boot to the live dvd, do i just hold the power button down to turn off the laptop?
[04:56] <bludshot> L3top ie: nothing nicer i can do eh?
[04:56] <god-zotac> motherbrain:: look at the config_cmdline_linux  source code
[04:56] <L3top> if you press power button on pc will likely shut itself down.
[04:56] <urfr332gO> motherbrain, here is a rather extensive grub 2 manual. http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[04:57] <bludshot> L3top yes it will
[04:57] <L3top> not without buttons or tty
[04:57] <Exodus> motherbrain, When the bzImage (for an i386 image) is invoked, you begin at ./arch/i386/boot/head.S in the start assembly routine
[04:57] <god-zotac> motherbrain:: that may not be the exact location let me make sure
[04:57] <L3top> I dont mean hold it... just press it
[04:57] <L3top> it SHOULD try and exit gracefully
[04:57] <bludshot> pressing it doesnt do anything
[04:57] <bludshot> i tried
[04:57] <xj88> Exodus: Shiny new admin account has same problem =(
[04:57] <L3top> well... might give it some time
[04:57] <L3top> as you cant see what it may or may not be doing
[04:57] <Exodus> xj88, so it's a system-wide thing, sadly
[04:57] <xj88> Exodus: Hopefully that narrows down possible causes?
[04:58] <bludshot> so you think i should boot to live dvd and then cp those skel files right
[04:58] <xj88> Exodus: I mean, there must be a short list of things that can do that to all accounts.
[04:58] <hazard74> o,o
[04:58] <Exodus> xj88, FUSE controls the automounting of the file-systems un userland
[04:59] <Exodus> xj88, start from there, check the kernel logs again, compare the logs to the machine that actually is mounting the hard drives correctly
[04:59] <universo> Exodus?
[04:59] <god-zotac> motherbrain:: in the kernel config:  this is the configuration option  where you define where init is located:  CONFIG_CMDLINE     it also has the option to read the cmdline mode / init from the boot loader.  take a look at the headers and the .c code that is used for those config options, and i'm sure you will be able to tell what you are wondering
[04:59] <friskd> Hey guys, i'm trying to track down some details about why a process is dying
[04:59] <L3top> k... hold it
[05:00] <Exodus> xj88, check what versions of each package it uses in each distro, fuse, mount, your base-files
[05:00] <friskd> I'm running a command using capistrano, and it executes a script, i see it start, (watching in htop), but then it does
[05:00] <LinuxApprentice> motherbrain: do you like metroid?
[05:00] <Exodus> xj88, try updating your system, might be a bug
[05:00] <universo> Exodus: The ____ command shows you the entire path and file name for anything containing the text string you indicate. ... It ended up being slocate! Thanks for the help and goodnight/day, wherever you are
[05:00] <friskd> is there a way to monitor what affects a running process?
[05:00] <xj88> Exodus: Fully updated, sadly, and this has been going on for over a week, during which time it's been updated repeatedly =(
[05:01] <victorplus> hello
[05:01] <LinuxApprentice> hallo
[05:01] <LinuxApprentice> guv'nor
[05:02] <Exodus> xj88, what fs are the hard drive partitions?
[05:02] <Exodus> xj88, ext? fat? ntfs?
[05:02] <xj88> Exodus: Two NTFS, two ext3.
[05:03] <xj88> Exodus: All with the same problem.
[05:03] <Exodus> xj88, connect the drives, manual mount with specifics, remember to unmount first
[05:03] <god-zotac> friskd:: the process in question will need to be built from source with debugging symbols enabled, and you will need to use gdb to debug the trace on it, unless it is giving you something other than SegFault output when ran in a terminal
[05:04] <Gallomimia> hi can someone help me with a strange problem. i've got a script called ftpmirror which causes a segfault in the perl interpreter. apparently it's known and fixed according to some pages i found through google. what I don't understand is what perl version i have installed, or how to get the bug fix incorporated into my system and make this script work. any help is appreciated
[05:04] <xj88> Exodus: Have been trying. Even when specifying rw, I get "mount: warning: /media/Seagate Replica seems to be mounted read-only."
[05:04] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: perl -v
[05:04] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: will tell you the version you have installed
[05:05] <Exodus> xj88, remember to unmount them first since when you plug them in they're already getting mounted by fuse
[05:05] <Gallomimia> ah yes. how simple :)
[05:05] <Exodus> xj88, run 'mount' alone to check where they're mounted or what their device points are /dev/sdx
[05:05] <Exodus> xj88, run: umount /media/DEVICE
[05:05] <Nubus> hello
[05:05] <Exodus> xj88, or: umount /dev/DEVICE
[05:05] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: if the fix requires a patch to some code you might want to find a .deb for it that is already patched, or you will need to get the perl source code, patch it, and then compile it, and build a .deb for it
[05:05] <Exodus> sudo those
[05:05] <__machine> trying to keep a log of the steps i need to take a configure a new ubuntu vps... when i have to do things like add several lines to the end of a config file... is there an easier way than multiple echo "..." >> filename commands? can i do a single command and then just paste all the lines into stdin and hit ctrl d to finish?
[05:05] <Exodus> xj88, then run the mount commands
[05:06] <Exodus> xj88, example: sudo mount -t ntfs -o users /dev/DEVICE /mnt/DEVICE
[05:06] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: if there isn't a patched .deb out there already, it would be nice for you to share the .deb you generate with the community to keep everyone else from needing to manually patch the source code :)
[05:07] <din> __machine: try cat > file.txt
[05:07] <din> __machine: or script file.txt
[05:07] <__machine> din: perfect, thank you
[05:07] <din> i personally like script better
[05:08] <Gallomimia> god-zotac: thanks for the tip. i'm reading the bug reports that i searched down yesterday and it seems that they're made. but i am confused about the versioning numbers. fixed in 5.10.1-9
[05:08] <Gallomimia> what's the -9 mean? and is that the same as my version which is 5.10.1
[05:08] <xj88> Exodus: Still I get "mount: warning: /media/Seagate Replica seems to be mounted read-only."
[05:08] <god-zotac> revision 9 of 5.10.1
[05:08] <xj88> Exodus: Maybe my fuse-daemon has been screwed up?
[05:08] <god-zotac> perl version 5.10.1  ubuntu release 9
[05:09] <xj88> Exodus: But that shouldn't matter after I've manually unmounted.
[05:09] <Gallomimia> this is on debian.org actually
[05:09] <Exodus> xj88, do you get that warning after running the mount command manually?
[05:09] <Exodus> xj88, exactly
[05:09] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: then it would be fixed in debian's 9th revision of the perl-5.10.1 pkg
[05:09] <Gallomimia> clarifying to some, but not to me. what revision do i have??
[05:10] <xj88> Exodus: Just seems weird. It's like something, somewhere, has decided that everything will be mounted r/o and even sudo can't make it change its mind.
[05:10] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: apt-cache show perl|grep Version
[05:10] <Exodus> xj88, it's weird just very weird, maybe you're typing something wrong?
[05:11] <Exodus> xj88, be sure you're unmounting the drives
[05:11] <xj88> Exodus: I promise that I am unmounting them successfully.
[05:11] <Gallomimia> hah. one revision old...
[05:12] <Exodus> xj88, also, retry remounting: mount -o remount,rw /mnt/point
[05:12] <stroxis> can ubuntu software RAID be seen under windows
[05:12] <Gallomimia> alright. in order to get a newer version, what should i do? will apt-get help, or are there other procedures?
[05:12] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: for what it is worth, on 12.04 precise  the version is at: 5.14.2-6ubuntu1
[05:12] <Exodus> xj88, run: mount, pastebin the corresponding lines to your drives
[05:12] <xj88> Exodus: Should I try that remounting when it's mounted or after umounting it?
[05:12] <Exodus> xj88, when it's mounted
[05:12] <Gallomimia> holy crap....
[05:13] <motherbrain> No, this had what I need and wanted http://duartes.org/gustavo/blog/post/kernel-boot-process
[05:13] <Gallomimia> let's pause for a moment. the server i'm running is ubuntu server 10.04.4
[05:13] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: first i would see if you can find a backport of 5.14 from precise for 11.10 if thats what you are using
[05:13] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: oh. well in that case i'd consider an update ;)
[05:13] <Exodus> motherbrain, last link I gave you had that info as well
[05:13] <Gallomimia> that was my question
[05:14] <Gallomimia> apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:14] <Gallomimia> or... damn i feel like such a noob :P
[05:14] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: you will have to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list first
[05:14] <motherbrain> apparently it all starts in /arch/x86/boot and moves all the way down to init_post which searchs for init and gives it PID = 1
[05:14] <bw___> how do i change window managers?
[05:14] <god-zotac> Gallomimia::   do cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak
[05:15] <Gallomimia> ah i'm glad you're smart
[05:15] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: then see what the codename is for 10.04, as i don't recall off the top of my head
[05:16] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: i would want to upgrade to 10.10 in one step, then to 11.04, then to 11.10
[05:16] <Gallomimia> lucid
[05:16] <god-zotac> don't just jump straight from 10.04 to 11.10
[05:16] <xj88> Exodus: Still trying to get at pastebin. Internet is weird here. Whole different set of issues; don't ask.
[05:16] <motherbrain> makes since the only things when porting to a new arch apart from drivers would be in recoding up to kernel_start
[05:16] <motherbrain> function
[05:17] <Exodus> xj88, did you try remount?
[05:17] <Gallomimia> this is good advice. one question before i proceed. it's an active production server with clients connected. will it cause problems? should i wait till a less active time?
[05:17] <motherbrain> and some times not even that much'
[05:17] <blackshirt> how to change text pattern string on file with sed ?
[05:18] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: yes for sure, this is going to be a major upgrade to almost every package on the system
[05:18] <motherbrain> Anyway anybody know of any good kernel debuggers
[05:18] <god-zotac> motherbrain:: like strace ?
[05:19] <motherbrain> no I am taking about something that would allow me to step thru the booting of an os in virtual pc
[05:19] <Lyte101> Any links on how to get ubuntu 11.10 hdmi output to detect my tv?
[05:19] <Gallomimia> it's a vds, and i think i can contain the apt command within screen which is nice
[05:19] <Exodus> motherbrain, KDB
[05:19] <Exodus> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-kdbug/
[05:19] <god-zotac> motherbrain:: build the kernel with all debugging to printk enabled
[05:19] <motherbrain> what and where is KDB
[05:20] <Exodus> motherbrain, http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-kdbug/
[05:20] <Exodus> also helps to use google
[05:20] <Gallomimia> ibm linux 0o
[05:20] <Gallomimia> flies in the face of everything i know about commercialization
[05:20] <Gallomimia> but hey, great
[05:20] <god-zotac> Exodus:: you work for ibm?  noticed that every link you have gave comes from ibm :P
[05:21] <Exodus> developer-works just has great articles
[05:21] <Exodus> they're also first place in a google search
[05:21] <Exodus> or right up there
[05:21] <xj88> Exodus: Yep, same error. Working on pastebin.
[05:21] <Gallomimia> alright so for me, step 1 upgrade to 10.10 so i searched and got https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades
[05:21] <Exodus> And developer works has epic content
[05:21] <Gallomimia> it recommends... uh
[05:22] <Gallomimia> update-manager-core
[05:22] <Exodus> god-zotac, wouldn't mind working at IBM in a couple of years though hehe, after I get bored of my current job
[05:23] <Gallomimia> pastebin sucks :( use codepad
[05:23] <Gallomimia> oh its decent for error logs
[05:23] <god-zotac> gist.github.com is good
[05:23] <Exodus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:23] <Exodus> it's uhm, in the /topic
[05:23] <Exodus> :-P
[05:24] <god-zotac> blah.. paste.ubuntu.com is rather n00bish if you are seeking help on something that isn't particularly related to the distro ;)
[05:24] <Exodus> true, but it has great syntax highlighting to pick from
[05:24] <Exodus> has a bunch of options at least
[05:25] <Exodus> I say use w/e works atm
[05:25] <xj88> Exodus: paste.ubuntu.com/858779/
[05:25] <Exodus> A lot of people are complaining at pastebin.com lately
[05:25] <Q_Continuum> So.  Landscape.  I can't afford it for my home machines, but need that capability to keep using it.  Are there any Free self-hosted alternatives, or do I go over to CentOS for my Linux non-Desktop use?
[05:25] <Exodus> xj88, just because you umount, doesn't mean it's actually getting unmounted
[05:26] <Exodus> xj88, check to see if it's actually getting unmount first
[05:26] <neersighted> Q_Continuum: Status2k?
[05:26] <Gallomimia> god-zotac: do you recommend using update-manager-core or editing sources.list for a noob like me?
[05:26] <Exodus> xj88, like, it won't unmount if the FS is busy
[05:26] <xj88> Exodus: It drops out of the sidebar and nautilus. How can I check?
[05:27] <Exodus> xj88, just run 'mount' alone
[05:27] <Q_Continuum> neersighted: hadn't heard of it, looking at it now.  Thanks
[05:27] <neersighted> look in the mountpoint?
[05:27] <Exodus> xj88, but if it drops from the sidebar should be noticeable
[05:27] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: i don't even know what update-manager-core is for.. i always do things by hand.. i don't rely on GUI utilities to get me through :)
[05:27] <Exodus> running: mount alone gives a detail of all the mounted partitions
[05:27] <Gallomimia> pretty sure it's CLI
[05:27] <JadedJacob> How can I install GRUB onto a floppy disk
[05:28] <Exodus> if it's not unmounted, you can force it using: umount -f
[05:28] <JadedJacob> and then make it boot via my usb flash drive?
[05:28] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: its not hard to do something like sed -i 's/oneiric/precise/g' /etc/apt/sources.list;apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:28] <urfr332gO> JadedJacob, why
[05:28] <JadedJacob> i have a laptop that doesn't boot from USB/CD
[05:28] <Flannel> Gallomimia: use do-release-upgrade.
[05:29] <urfr332gO> JadedJacob, is it to old?
[05:29] <Gallomimia> uhhhhhh
[05:29]  * Gallomimia looks up what sed does
[05:29] <JadedJacob> athlon xp mobile
[05:29] <urfr332gO> for a usb JadedJacob
[05:29] <Flannel> Gallomimia: You don't want to go the sed route.
[05:29] <Exodus> Well, that's it for me, 1:00AM, gotta get up early for work, sorry we couldn't get that fixed xj88
[05:30] <xj88> Exodus: Definitely unmounting.
[05:30] <Gallomimia> flannel i think you're right. it's just above my head
[05:30] <xj88> Exodus: Thanks for trying.
[05:30] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: sed == stream editor     its very powerful for tons of things
[05:30] <Flannel> Gallomimia: Well, it's not even the optimum way to do it, so I'm not sure why you would even want to try.
[05:30] <Gallomimia> i can sort of see what it's doing but.... probably unwise for me to do it.
[05:30] <Exodus> xj88, last thing checking is /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab for any appearance of those drives
[05:30] <Exodus> o/ bye
[05:30] <Gallomimia> maybe if i hired god-zotac to be my server admin it would be better ;)
[05:31] <Gallomimia> unfortunately the pay is only 5 dollars per year
[05:31] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: please do!! i'm in need of a good admin job
[05:31] <god-zotac> in that case nvm
[05:31] <Gallomimia> hehe
[05:31] <Flannel> Gallomimia: No, that other method has no benefits to the do-release-upgrade method.
[05:31] <god-zotac> Flannel:: sure it does, it gives him a good understanding of how things are suppose to work
[05:31] <Gallomimia> the only benefit i can see is that it's super fast
[05:31] <god-zotac> Flannel:: not just some script that does things for you ;)
[05:32] <Gallomimia> and now i know what sed is. and i might go and learn about it one day
[05:32] <Exodus> xj88, ohh, one last thing
[05:32] <Exodus> xj88, something is probably already mounted there in /media/external
[05:32] <basilic> hello, all, I tried to configure my ubuntu server to standby hard disk, I have add in hdparm.conf the line  spindown_time, when the server start, the harddisk are in standby, but if i wake up, it's never go to standby again
[05:32] <Exodus> xj88, mount ur stuff elsewhere
[05:32] <Flannel> Gallomimia: the majority of the time is spent downloading and installing, both methods do that the same.
[05:32] <xj88> Exodus: Sure, I'll give that a shot.
[05:32] <Exodus> xj88, "mount: warning: /media/external seems to be mounted read-only." is just saying there is something already mounted there
[05:32] <Gallomimia> faster to give the commands
[05:32] <Exodus> xj88, meaning you already have that mount point used
[05:33] <Gallomimia> not faster to complete
[05:33] <Exodus> xj88, run "mount" alone, learn to read it and check the mount points, and unmount and mount appropriately
[05:33] <Flannel> god-zotac: Sure, except you forgot about any sources in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and you didn't ensure that appropriate metapackages were installed prior to upgrade.
[05:33] <Exodus> Bye again o/
[05:33] <travis_> gnome-ppp is awesome
[05:33] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: im sure what he is telling you is the Ubuntu preferred method, but the method I told you has never failed me.. i'm not really an ubuntu guy anyway, i prefer more interactive distributions instead of the automated ones. but nonetheless ubuntu has good uses for tons of users, or certain systems alone
[05:34] <JadedJacob> anyone?
[05:34] <Flannel> god-zotac: and I don't see how "run these two commands I gave you" is any different than "run this one command", it doesn't teach you anything else.
[05:34] <Gallomimia> wait.... learn? that defeats the purpose of this handholding channel!
[05:34] <asde> I have a problem
[05:34] <urfr332gO> JadedJacob, maybe if you explained your goal what OS is on the computer, and the actual limitations regarding booting a cd or usb we can get you the best option
[05:34] <god-zotac> Flannel:: yep, it teached him where his sources where at, it teached him that sed was useful :)
[05:34] <Gallomimia> i didn't personally chose the distro for this server. but it's working just fine. i think i would prefer debian
[05:34] <god-zotac> Flannel:: in that case he could use sed on * in sources.d  also
[05:35] <asde> certain program could not work in my lubuntu
[05:35] <Gallomimia> alright geeks extraordinaire.... pissing match over ><
[05:35] <Flannel> god-zotac: Yes, he should, except for when he shouldn't.  Again, the do-release-upgrade method is much more robust, please don't steer people towards methods that could turn out poorly.
[05:35] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: might as well stick with ubuntu as debian.. not really that much difference at all in terms of package management, and ubuntu usually has a better selection of packages than debian
[05:36] <god-zotac> Flannel:: how can it turn out poorly??
[05:36] <Gallomimia> no we have no reason to reformat the server and start over. that's dumb.
[05:36] <motherbrain> how is kernel debugging different then fewing what is in dmesg ... is it you have more control and can kprint at each step ,...etc etc
[05:36] <Gallomimia> alright. here's what do-release-upgrade has yeilded: Checking for a new ubuntu release
[05:36] <Gallomimia> No new release found
[05:36] <asde> When I click open on txt files nothing happen and also for some programs from the start menu won't open up. I'm using lubuntu. No one in lubuntu channel
[05:36] <Gallomimia> so.... not all that prefered :(
[05:36] <Flannel> Gallomimia: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[05:36] <Gallomimia> 10.04
[05:36] <god-zotac> Flannel:: please don't get a flame war started because i recommend someone the more advanced way to do something over the ubuntu recommended n00b way of doing something.. gosh
[05:37] <Flannel> Gallomimia: and which version are you trying to get to?
[05:37] <Gallomimia> and i don't really care about upgrading except that i'm trying to use a perl script which segfaults perl. so i need updates to perl which are in new releases
[05:37] <Flannel> god-zotac: It's more crude, not more advanced.
[05:37] <Gallomimia> any version where this script works :P
[05:37] <god-zotac> ok.. w/e
[05:38] <Gallomimia> the words you guys are applying to these different methods are subjective, not objective, and biased.
[05:38] <Flannel> Gallomimia: By default, 10.04 will only upgrade to 12.04 (LTS to LTS), so if you want to upgrade to 10.10 (which isn't LTS) or anything later (10.10 and then to 11.04, and then potentially to 11.10), you'll need to tell it that you're willing to jump off the LTS releases.
[05:38] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: really it doesn't matter..
[05:38] <Gallomimia> one takes more skill, and can take less effort
[05:39] <urfr332gO> Gallomimia, and one is a user and one is a opp choose your words carefully. :)
[05:39] <int19h> isnt all thats important that the server does as you want it to ?
[05:39] <xj88> Does anyone here have experience moving away from Unity? I'm just ready to be done with it. Is the modern gnome worth pursuing?
[05:39] <god-zotac> Gallomimia:: the reason i told you that method, was because you asked me how to do it.. i could have lied and said "i don't know" instead i gave you the method i personally use, and i did clarify that it wasn't the ubuntu preferred method.. so i don't see what this goons issue is
[05:39] <motherbrain> curious must you recompile the kernel to use Kernel debugging or is their another way like a patch. I really don't want to have to wait for things to recompile / recompile the stuff right now. But if that is the only way then that is the only way
[05:39] <int19h> xj88: gnome3 is just as bad
[05:40] <Flannel> Gallomimia: If you can last another two months (until late April), then you'll be able to upgrade straight from 10.04 to 12.04.  But it sounds like you may not have that option.
[05:41] <friskd> ok thanks god-zotac
[05:41] <Muelli> xj88: well, you might just give GNOME3 a try. I, for one, like it.
[05:42] <xj88> Muelli: I like evilwm.
[05:42] <int19h> gnome3 feels like an obfuscated unity too me
[05:42] <Flannel> Gallomimia: So, you'll want to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and change it from "ask=lts" to "ask=normal", then once you've done that, you can do-release-upgrade to go to 10.10.  Unfortunately, 10.10 does run out of support in April, so you'll likely want to upgrade further.
[05:42] <manojhans> sorry for budding in...but gnome3 is not that bad...
[05:42] <JadedJacob> I want my laptop to boot off a 'live install usb' but there is no option in the bios to boot off USB
[05:42] <Gallomimia> urfr332gO: never speak differently to a human being just because they have more authority than another human being.
[05:42] <LoganShaw> Hey is this general help channel for ubuntu?
[05:42] <urfr332gO> int19h, totally different development teams
[05:43] <Muelli> LoganShaw: yes :)
[05:43] <Gallomimia> LoganShaw: yes.
[05:43] <urfr332gO> Gallomimia, lol you will learn that hierarchies exist my friend.
[05:43] <manojhans> u might need to update your bios
[05:43] <int19h> i know, i do not like gnome3, unity ive learned to live with. i thought gnome3 looked slick, then i tried to use it.... wow, whadda mess
[05:43] <Flannel> urfr332gO: That's really not the case.
[05:43] <god-zotac> urfr332gO::   hierarchy of knowledge means nothing when it comes to channel operator status..
[05:44] <urfr332gO> Flannel, I know here it doesn't, but the comment was broader.
[05:44] <LoganShaw> Okay excellent, I would like to dual boot ubuntu with windows 7, but if I remove ubuntu will the bootloader countdown still be there?
[05:44] <xj88> I hear that Gnome3 has a decent "classic" theme that actually makes it useable. Can anyone verify this?
[05:44] <god-zotac> urfr332gO:: his comment was for the methods, not for the users. he wasn't meaning an insult
[05:44] <Gallomimia> urfr332gO: to speak differently to someone just because they have more authority implies that you are speaking to someone without authority in some kind of condescending way, just because they won't be able to reprimand you. this is a foley. as for the heirarchies and such, i choose to ignore them for reasons of my own.
[05:45] <Muelli> xj88: yeah, that's probably the default ;-) Very classy I'd say
[05:45] <xj88> Muelli: Cool, thanks. Perhaps I will give that a shot.
[05:45] <urfr332gO> god-zotac, nor was it taken as such nor my original comment directed as such, it was pure ego on all of your parts.
[05:46] <Gallomimia> not entirely unfounded, the ego is
[05:46] <manojhans> @LoganShaw: i dont think it will still be there...after you remove ubuntu
[05:46] <Gallomimia> thanks for the help so far guys...
[05:46] <urfr332gO> not that there is anything wrong with that. :)
[05:47] <LoganShaw> because last time I uninstalled ubuntu the ugly bootloader and countdown timer was still there, the choice was between windows 7 or windows 7.
[05:47] <urfr332gO> LoganShaw, if you remove ubuntu you will have no boot.
[05:48] <int19h> LoganShaw: write a default boot loader after you remove ubuntu
[05:48] <eblume> Hello. I have a headless server install that is using a wired ethernet connector. All of a sudden I can't connect to the internet. I can access the LAN just fine, but can't get out. Other computers on the LAN can get out just fine. Any ideas?
[05:48] <int19h> or it will remain
[05:48] <urfr332gO> LoganShaw, unless it is a wubi install.
[05:48] <int19h> hes talking about grub
[05:48] <int19h> grub will still be there if he installed ot to the mbr
[05:49] <urfr332gO> int19h, if you have only W7 and ubuntu grub will not work ig ubuntu is removed, in a dual boot not a wubi.
[05:49] <LoganShaw> okay so use wubi to avoid grub cruff?
[05:49] <urfr332gO> if*
[05:49] <urfr332gO> LoganShaw, no reload tghe ms bootloader to the mbr.
[05:49] <urfr332gO> the
[05:49] <int19h> ummmm, yes it will
[05:50] <urfr332gO> int19h, grub needs the ubuntu grub files to work.
[05:50] <LoganShaw> okay thanks.
[05:50] <Gallomimia> lol: "not that there's anything wrong with that"
[05:50] <urfr332gO> it will nt work on its own unless set up that way, not just mbr load will work. int19h
[05:51] <eblume> Does anyone have any tips on where to start with diagnosing a (headless - no X11 running) networking issue where LAN works fine but no Internet connection? (Other machines are negotiating the gateway just fine.)
[05:51] <christinepea777> anyone know how to run sound eXchange in the background? when i type play file.mp3 &    it will start the sox program but in stopped mode and bg won't bring it out.
[05:51] <int19h> it will come up with a grub prompt at the very least
[05:51] <int19h> but you never know how people "uninstall" linux
[05:52] <int19h> its possible he just removed the kernel or something, and os-probe only detected windows 7
[05:52] <urfr332gO> int19h, but the grub configuration that actually runs the boot will be gone.
[05:52] <int19h> or he may have used that wubi stuff....
[05:52] <Muelli> well christinepea777. You can run it in a screen.
[05:53] <christinepea777> i kind of wanted to run it from the command line
[05:53] <Muelli> christinepea777: sure, no problem with that. Just run it in a screen.
[05:53] <Muelli> !info screen | christinepea777
[05:53] <int19h> tmux > screen
[05:53] <urfr332gO> int19h, I addressed that.
[05:53] <Muelli> yeah, well. I guess I'm a bit oldschool -.-
[05:54] <Ribose> eep
[05:54] <int19h> !info tmux
[05:54] <User0000> hiiii
[05:55] <urfr332gO> User0000, welcome to the dungeon muhaha. :)
[05:55] <int19h> urfr332gO: ive neverthought the "try it out installed in windows!" thing was a good idea. when i first heard about it on the mailing lists, i saw the problems.
[05:55] <User0000> lol you mean lair?
[05:55] <christinepea777> alright i'll try tmux.
[05:56] <Blue1>  I need a good pci sata controller card (NOT PCI-E) -- that works with LInux.  Do NOT need raid.  Suggestions?
[05:56] <eblume> Last try for tonight. :( Is there anyone who can help me troubleshoot why my linux box can't reach the internet but can reach the LAN, while other computers on the LAN can hit the internet?
[05:56] <Muelli> well eblume. How do you know that you can't reach the internet?
[05:56] <urfr332gO> int19h, yeah the devloper himself says don't run long term, it can be transfered to a partition though.
[05:56] <Blue1> eblume: wireless, or wired?
[05:56] <LoganShaw> does ubuntu need a swap file even with 8gb of ram?
[05:56] <int19h> i did try out the wubi thing one time, when i actualy used the uninstaller, the grub loader went away, so i dont know how he uninstalled it, but it shouldnt of left a grub loader giving him the option of windows, and windows
[05:57] <Blue1> LoganShaw: heavens no
[05:57] <eblume> Muelli: It is unable to resolve any names or ping any IP addresses that aren't on the local subnet.
[05:57] <eblume> Blue1: wired.
[05:57] <Blue1> LoganShaw: if you're swapping 8 g you'v e got serious issues.  I would however maybe make a 2-3G swap file.
[05:57] <Muelli> eblume: can you pastebin ifconfig -a? and /etc/resolv.conf?
[05:57] <urfr332gO> int19h, probably had another grub distro is my guess.
[05:58] <Muelli> eblume: and route -n
[05:58] <urfr332gO> more then one
[05:58] <Xeneth> LoganShaw, Swap is also used for hibernate
[05:58] <eblume> Muelli: sure, stand by
[05:58] <LoganShaw> ubuntu absolutely needs a swap file? because I was told the swap file should be two times the size of RAM, which is madness I think
[05:58] <int19h> urfr332gO: possibly
[05:58] <int19h> LoganShaw: that was an old convention
[05:59] <JadedJacob> OK, how about this option.
[05:59] <Muelli> LoganShaw: well. you probably don't need to swap. But I'd better be safe than sorry.
[05:59] <urfr332gO> LoganShaw, only needed for hibernation or if you have low ram, needs to only be equal to ram generally.
[05:59] <int19h> now that physical memory is cheap.... you dont need 2x ;)
[05:59] <Xeneth> LoganShaw, Absolutely?  no.  Recommended. Yes.
[05:59] <Blue1> LoganShaw: what Muelli said
[05:59] <int19h> i generaly try to match my physical memory
[05:59] <eblume> Muelli: http://pastebin.com/TbkD7Phc    - virbr0 is cruft left over from a bridgeutils install, and I'd love to get rid of it. I don't think it's causing this as it's existed before without issue, but yeah, if we can destroy it that would be great.
[06:00] <int19h> on a workstation
[06:00] <JadedJacob> Can I boot off a live cd, and than point to the flash drive and boot off that?
[06:00] <LoganShaw> it is fine in theory but I have an ssd which is why I asked if I could do without swap
[06:00] <urfr332gO> JadedJacob, do you have a windows install perchance?
[06:00] <JadedJacob> no HDD
[06:00] <urfr332gO> JadedJacob, yes on the cd use plop.
[06:01] <Muelli> hm eblume. And is 192.168.0.0 your router? I.e. do you have the same router on the box you're currently connected with?
[06:01] <Xeneth> JadedJacob, The devise to boot from is in the Bios.
[06:01] <int19h> LoganShaw: try and match your physical memory, unless this is a server your talking about
[06:01] <eblume> Muelli: My router is 192.168.0.1, and it begins assigning from 192.168.0.2 - the machine in question is 192.168.0.2.
[06:01] <int19h> LoganShaw: if its a desktop and wont ever be hybernated or anything, you can get away with less easily
[06:01] <Xeneth> JadedJacob, When you boot, there should be a button you can press to choose.
[06:01] <eblume> Muelli: and yes, I am typing this on a laptop that is connected to the same router, and this laptop is also SSH'ed in to the broken machine.
[06:01] <urfr332gO> JadedJacob, this will boot a thumb, http://www.plop.at/
[06:01] <LoganShaw> int19h: okay thanks, sound advice
[06:02] <Muelli> hm eblume. Because the configured router is .0. Weird.
[06:02] <Muelli> eblume: what the output of host ubuntu.com 8.8.8.8
[06:02] <urfr332gO> JadedJacob, thumb=a usb
[06:02] <eblume> Muelli: I agree, that is weird! So far, 'host <...>' is hanging.
[06:03] <eblume> Muelli: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[06:03] <JadedJacob> I'VE TRIED plop boot loader, it just freezes
[06:03] <Muelli> hm eblume. interesting indeed.
[06:03] <Muelli> eblume: and well, I'd try to add the router by hand for testing purposes, i.e. ip route add 192.168.0.0 dev eth0 or the like. I don't know the correct syntax, it's weird anyway.
[06:03] <urfr332gO> JadedJacob, what is the gpu and cpu on the computer
[06:04] <urfr332gO> chip and ram
[06:04] <Muelli> eblume: but after you've smashed two or three keyboards because of the frustration, you'll be able to add a new route and delete the old .0 one.
[06:04] <eblume> Muelli: is DHCP inserting this bogus .0 router?
[06:05] <Muelli> eblume: maybe. We don't know yet. Let's do one thing after another. First trying to manually configure the route and check whether that works.
[06:05] <eblume> Muelli: Ok, so I guess I'll need to dig up the correct incantation to get ip to route to the right address?
[06:06] <Muelli> eblume: yes. There is "ip" which is supposed to be easy...
[06:06] <eblume> Muelli: I just rebooted and route -n changed. Would you like to see the new one?
[06:06] <Xeneth> eblume, are you talking about a cisco rtr with an IOS?
[06:06] <Muelli> eblume: alternatively, you can try to use "route" but I consider that  even worse.
[06:07] <Muelli> eblume: yes.
[06:07] <eblume> Xeneth: No.
[06:07] <JadedJacob> athlon xp 2200 mobile
[06:07] <JadedJacob> geforce 4 420 2go
[06:07] <eblume> Muelli: http://pastebin.com/iGfubU17
[06:08] <eblume> Xeneth: it's a Motorola SBG6580 or something close to that, a Wireless-N router, although this connection is wireless.
[06:08] <eblume> router + modem I should say.
[06:08] <Muelli> ah, interesting eblume. Sure, the old route didn't have a default gateway, stupid me...
[06:08] <Muelli> eblume: and now it works I presume..?
[06:08] <eblume> Muelli: is that something we can fix? I'm in the dark here
[06:08] <eblume> Muelli: oh wow it did I didn't even bother trying! What happened?
[06:09] <eblume> Muelli: I've rebooted dozens of times.
[06:09] <eblume> Muelli: not sure why this one fixed everything?!
[06:09] <Muelli> eblume: now you do have have a default gateway, i.e. the machine that your linux will send packets to in case it doesn't know a better route. And well, the reasons lie in the dark of your copper cables I presume.
[06:09] <Xeneth> eblume, In line 6, it looks like the 192.168.0.0/24 is being routed to IP 0.0.0.0
[06:10] <Muelli> eblume: FWIW: I have weird issues with my laptop, i.e. sometimes the kernel doesn't see DHCP packets, although they are on the wire. I doubt that's your issue though.
[06:10] <eblume> Xeneth: standby, I'll confirm that.
[06:10] <ksus> #ksus
[06:10] <eblume> Muelli: no you're probably right. My router decided to completely lose all of its EEPROM today, like a factory reset.
[06:10] <eblume> Muelli: I'm worried now that it is dieing. :(
[06:11] <Muelli> eblume: you might want to check NetworkManager for details, i.e. let it produce a log and check it once you have this failure again.
[06:11] <urfr332gO> JadedJacob, hard to tell the chip speed and ram from that info really.
[06:11] <asde> Anything working to record screen of computer in ubuntu beside recordmydesktop and kazam?
[06:11] <bobo37773> asde: ffmpeg
[06:12] <urfr332gO> JadedJacob, I think you may be well below ubuntu running hard to tell though.
[06:12] <CFHowlett> asde   instanbul also
[06:12] <eblume> Xeneth: I'm not really sure what to say - it all seems to be working? It sure does LOOK like it's routing 192.168.0.0/28 to 0.0.0.0
[06:12] <Muelli> asde: GNOME3 does once you press Ctrl+Shift+R.
[06:12] <eblume> er, /24
[06:12] <Muelli> asde: you can try Istanbul as well. Quite good, but no sound recording.
[06:12] <eblume> Muelli: Anyway thanks for your help! I'm very upset that the fix was 'turning it off and on again', 'specially since I did that about a dozen times before I cam here.
[06:13] <eblume> Muelli: I guess I just needed your healing words.
[06:13] <Muelli> eblume: heh. Next time, try dhcplient, too.
[06:13] <Muelli> dhclient that is
[06:13] <eblume> Muelli: Is that not what Ubuntu uses by default? I'm not familiar.
[06:14] <hammommah> im using lubuntu and when i type echo $PRINTER i get no listings? yet i can print fine from within xdm and printer is installed correctly
[06:14] <Muelli> yes eblume, it is. but you can trigger it yourself and watch the output flowing by potentially seeing smth strange.
[06:14] <Muelli> hammommah: what do you want to achieve?
[06:14] <justin_> hi
[06:14] <eblume> Muelli: I see. What would the invocation be for that? It looks... robust.
[06:14] <Muelli> eblume: dhclient -v
[06:14] <CFHowlett> justin_   greetings
[06:15] <Muelli> hammommah: lpstat -a ?
[06:15] <eblume> Muelli: I assume it would need to be run as root to set up the proper settings on the device?
[06:15] <Muelli> very correct eblume.
[06:15] <eblume> Muelli: Ok, thank you very much. Have a nice night/day/appropriate time!
[06:15] <hammommah> #Muelli its listed there
[06:16] <justin_> I have a problem. My webcam works great on skype, but when i try to use an internet application like tinychat, it doesn't let me click "accept". If someone could help me solve this problem it would be greatly appreciated
[06:16] <hammommah> im guessing lubuntu uses $lpstat as deamon instead of $printer
[06:16] <Muelli> hammommah: I don't think I understand you well. But feel free to ask more and more detailed questions.
[06:18] <CFHowlett> justin_   see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrDT52xFCGk
[06:18] <hammommah> im doing module on linux and lession describes how you can echo $printer and get list of avalible printers. its just that command shows no printers listed. i tried echo${tab}{tab} and listed all possible listings and $printer isnt there just wondering why if my printers installed and working correctly
[06:19] <stiltzkin> Hi folks. Hoping someone here knows a thing or two about Ubuntu's performance with flash media. I experience extremely slow file transfers when using any flash-based device, including thumb drives, camera cards, my phone, etc. Usually for, say, a 400MB file, the first 390MB will copy over in seconds, but the last 10MB appears to take much, much longer - sometimes over a half an hour for instance. Anyone know what causes this and if it
[06:19] <stiltzkin>  can be fixed?
[06:19] <Muelli> hammommah: as you've seen: lpstat -a lists you your printers.
[06:19] <bobo37773> stiltzkin: Does your bios support disabling legacy usb support?
[06:19] <hammommah> why is it different? is my question
[06:20] <Muelli> hammommah: why should it?
[06:20] <Muelli> or better: shouldn't it
[06:20] <stiltzkin> bobo37773, not sure, is that something that should be disabled?
[06:20] <bobo37773> stiltzkin: it may improve your transfer speeds
[06:21] <Muelli> well stiltzkin. I think this is a feature. I guess the everything that's about to be written gets cached. And at some stage it actually needs to be flushed to the device. And when nothing needs to be written to memory but the device only, it might feel like it slows down.
[06:21] <hammommah> i was under impression these basic shell commands are similar with all flavours of linux? ubuntu uses ipstat instead im guessing
[06:22] <Muelli> there was a command to show the transfer speed on the actual block device. I forgot which it was though. But, stiltzkin, you might be able to find it and check the i/o rate on the device.
[06:22] <Muelli> hammommah: instead of what?
[06:22] <stiltzkin> Muelli, I don't have this problem in Windows with the same devices though. File operations are smooth and actually are a reasonable indication of how long the transfer is going to take. If I remember correctly on previous installations the copy dialog always showed the transfer speed, and it would drop off substantially toward the end of the transfer.
[06:22] <justin_> thanks CFHowlett, i will check it out
[06:23] <CFHowlett> justin_   good luck.
[06:23] <hammommah> hmmm good point. wehy doesnt echo $PRINTER work then?
[06:23] <Muelli> hammommah: simply because nobody set that environment variable for you. If you want that, export it yourself in your ~/.bashrc or /etc/profile or the like.
[06:24] <Muelli> stiltzkin: *shrug* Just giving you some hint as to how to debug this issue (if it is one).
[06:24] <Gitzo> hi
[06:24] <hammommah> bahahaha i been sitting here too long. i forgot $PRINTER is a shell variable ty very much
[06:25] <CFHowlett> Gitzo   greetigns
[06:25] <CFHowlett> *greetings*
[06:25] <chipotle> so, i just installed windows7 and then ubuntu, and now how do i get grub to let me decide between windows or ubuntu?
[06:25] <stiltzkin> Muelli, I appreciate it...I just don't think this is a "feature," it really seems like a consistent problem with how flash transfers are handled. I'd think it's my hardware but I've had this problem on several different machines, and several versions of Ubuntu
[06:25] <bobo37773> stiltzkin: probably a kernel regression. You can look up some grub options for your kernel.
[06:26] <CFHowlett> chipotle   when you boot, you don't see the grub menu?
[06:26] <Random833> what's a good password management tool? i tried keepass on mono and didn't like it
[06:26] <urfr332gO> stiltzkin, just for a comment never happens on my setup.
[06:26] <chipotle> CFHowlett: no
[06:26] <urfr332gO> Random833, pwgen
[06:26] <chipotle> sometimes it appears, every other boot it seems
[06:26] <stiltzkin> urfr332gO, so when you copy a large file to a flash drive, it does not freeze up toward the end of the transfer or wait until the very end to do the actual copying?
[06:26] <Muelli> Random833: seahorse
[06:26] <Xeneth> chipotle, It should come up with the menu of choices before loading OS..
[06:27] <Xeneth> chipotle, In Ubuntu, do you see the partition of your windows?
[06:27] <urfr332gO> stiltzkin, no and I have usb2 multiple thumbs and 2 external HD's
[06:27] <chipotle> Xeneth: it says unallocated
[06:27] <Muelli> stiltzkin: well. I don't think I have this issue using GNOME. But then again, I don't use that flash media. And I doubt it's a genuine flash problem. Only a special case where actual writing is slow (hence the slowdown with the cache flush)
[06:27] <CFHowlett> chipotle   chipotle do you multiples hdd's or something?
[06:27] <chipotle> CFHowlett: now that are plugged in
[06:27] <urfr332gO> stiltzkin, but this is usually media like movies and music if that helps.
[06:27] <stiltzkin> urfr332gO, interesting. Yeah this only happens to me with flash-based media though, I have plenty of external hard disks that never show this problem.
[06:28] <Muelli> and yaeh stiltzkin. Your time-left indication might be buggy. So it might be worth reporting a bug.
[06:28] <Xeneth> chipotle, I am getting the feeling you may have deleted windows partion when installing Ubuntu
[06:28] <chipotle> Xeneth: how, i resized the partition and installed on the other partition
[06:28] <chipotle> Xeneth: would grub appear only if i had multiple OSes?
[06:28] <chipotle> or does it always appear?
[06:28] <stiltzkin> Muelli, that's what I thought as well, but still...20 minutes to copy 417MB to a flash drive? That is not USB 2.0 speed at all.
[06:28] <bobo37773> stiltzkin: does the same thing happen if you foramt your flash drive to ext4 or similar?
[06:29] <Muelli> hm. true stiltzkin. Maybe check whether it's connected via USB 1. lsusb or the like
[06:29] <stiltzkin> bobo37773, Yes, I believe so.
[06:29] <urfr332gO> stiltzkin, yeah, mine are all ntfs the hd and fat on the tumbs.
[06:29] <Gitzo> using wubi..  can you use that to run ubuntu inside windows just as you would in virtualbox?
[06:29] <Xeneth> chipotle, It does not alway's get installed.  My laptop is Ubuntu only, no grub.  That's why It sounds like the deleted partition, and the unallocated space.
[06:29] <bobo37773> stiltzkin: Have you tested it?
[06:30] <Muelli> hm. no. lsusb doesn't seem to help. But you'll figure out.
[06:30] <chipotle> Xeneth: does grub get installed automatically?
[06:30] <urfr332gO> Gitzo, wubi runs as a boot not a virtual,
[06:30] <stiltzkin> bobo37773, not for a while, but I think when I originally had this problem I tried formatting a thumb drive to ext3/ext4 to see if that helped and it did not
[06:30] <bobo37773> stiltzkin: oh okay gotcha
[06:30] <Gitzo> urfr332gO: ok
[06:31] <Xeneth> chipotle, yes, I do not know the details, but it installs automatic with my desktop.
[06:31] <stiltzkin> bobo37773, in any case that won't help for my phone sdcard, has to be fat32, as do most of my drives for compatibility with Windows :/
[06:31] <bobo37773> stiltzkin: I had this problem a while back when I had my old laptop. I understand the frustration
[06:31] <urfr332gO> Gitzo, it is just a file in windows, but you can virtualbox in windows.
[06:31] <CFHowlett> Gitzo   wubi is NOT a long-term ubuntu solution - so sayeth the developer.
[06:31] <bobo37773> stiltzkin: I tried everything and there was no solution for me. But, I could not disable legacy usb in my bios either.
[06:31] <urfr332gO> CFHowlett, hallelujah brother. :)
[06:32] <CFHowlett> urfr332gO   see the pm
[06:32] <makara> hi. How can I detect if ubuntu is using my graphics card's capabilities, NVIDIA?
[06:32] <neersighted> Do you have the drivers  installed?
[06:32] <neonkidxy> Hey I have a 700mb CD-R how do I burn ubuntu to it?
[06:33] <Blue1> CFHowlett: got a minute?  the computer I had the notes on how to install the kanji character set died yesterday (bad sata controller) do you still have that old pastebin address?
[06:33] <CFHowlett> neonkidxy   from windows or ubuntu
[06:33] <hiexpo> makara, you useing compiz
[06:33] <chipotle> Xeneth: if it's not installed can i install it?
[06:33] <neonkidxy> ubuntu
[06:33] <chipotle> i think the intel boot manager is getting in the way...
[06:33] <CFHowlett> Blue1   hey what's up
[06:33] <makara> hiexpo: yes
[06:33] <neonkidxy> I mean windows
[06:33] <stiltzkin> bobo37773, I just think it's weird that a) this only happens with flash media, and b) that it always seems to be the same percentage shown on the file copy dialog when it freezes. For a 400MB file it'll be 390MB. For a 300MB file it'll be 290MB. Usually a 10-15MB difference
[06:33] <hiexpo> than it works
[06:34] <Xeneth> chipotle, Likely, but would need to ask someone with more knowledge then I.
[06:34] <hiexpo> makara, compiz = 3d
[06:34] <Blue1> CFHowlett: computer died overnight before daily backups.
[06:34] <neonkidxy> The .iso is 709mb and I only have a 700mb CD-R
[06:34] <CFHowlett> Blue1 you're having a rough weekend...
[06:34] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, should fit cd have a little of a buffer
[06:34] <Blue1> neonkidxy: is that the latest release of ubuntu?
[06:34] <hiexpo> than get a dvd
[06:34] <makara> hiexpo: I have virtualbox with Win7 and Autocad, but Autocad not using 3D hardware acceleration
[06:34] <stiltzkin> bobo37773, oh, and the other thing I've tried is using the plain cp command...takes roughly the same amount of time. Far slower than to any hard drive I own.
[06:34] <Blue1> CFHowlett: and how.   I think I found a pci card that will work -
[06:35] <CFHowlett> Blue1  seeking the link ...
[06:35] <neonkidxy> I don't really like the unity interface so I'm going with 10.10, are you sure it'll burn okay?
[06:35] <makara> hiexpo: VirtualBox settings checkbox for 3D is on
[06:35] <hiexpo> makara, we don't support windows here
[06:35] <bobo37773> stiltzkin: I had more luck with cp and rsync when I had this problem then with the gui.
[06:35] <Escherial> hey, does anyone happen to know of a way to suspend in ubuntu and then restart into windows?
[06:35] <Blue1> neonkidxy: yeah a cd is plenty big for 10.10
[06:36] <Escherial> i guess it'd be what people usually call "hibernating", e.g. serializing the contents of RAM to a file to be restored when the OS boots up again
[06:36] <neonkidxy> The cd only have 700 mb and the .iso is 709 though
[06:36] <neonkidxy> has*
[06:36] <Blue1> neonkidxy: which iso for what release?
[06:36] <neonkidxy> The regular one for 10.10
[06:37] <CFHowlett> Blue1   this solution still seems to work
[06:37] <CFHowlett> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/install-japanese-and-korean-in-ubuntu-9-04-a-731217/
[06:37] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, 10.10 end of life meaning no support April 2012
[06:38] <Gitzo> is there a commandline software installer lke zypper or yum?
[06:38] <Blue1> CFHowlett: thank you
[06:38] <neonkidxy> Well I can go to 10.04
[06:38] <CFHowlett> Blue1   have fun/be safe
[06:38] <hiexpo> Escherial, we don't support any windows help here
[06:38] <Blue1> CFHowlett: no choice - thanks
[06:38] <CFHowlett> Blue1   also see http://askubuntu.com/questions/23348/do-i-need-to-install-japanese-truetype-font-ume-font
[06:39] <Blue1> hiexpo: not true:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[06:39] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, yeah go 10.04 it is april 2013.
[06:39] <neonkidxy> And I just burn it like normal?
[06:39] <CFHowlett> Gitzo   to install what
[06:40] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, burn as a image at slow speed.
[06:40] <Blue1> neonkidxy: no you can't just copy an iso to a cd -- what programme ru using to create the cd?
[06:40] <hiexpo> that should have never happened
[06:40] <neonkidxy> Okay, I usually use a flash drive so this is new territory for me.
[06:40] <Gitzo> CFHowlett: to install anything..  + updates..  im just wondering if there is ?
[06:40] <neonkidxy> Infra recorder
[06:40] <Blue1> neonkidxy: than why not use a flash drive - hang on I have a recipe
[06:41] <Escherial> hiexpo: regardless, it has nothing to do with windows; it could be any other operating system that i'm dual booting
[06:41] <Escherial> or say that i just want to hibernate the machine and shut it down to conserve power...how would i do that?
[06:41] <CFHowlett> Gitzo   sudo apt-get install // sudo apt-get upgrade ??
[06:41] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, infra recorder will burn a image just uise slowest speed.
[06:42] <neonkidxy> The computer I want to put it on won't support booting from a flash drive
[06:43] <Blue1> neonkidxy: http://pkill-9.com/creating-a-usb-flash-drive-for-a-debian-install/
[06:43] <Blue1> neonkidxy: then skip the recipe I just gave you
[06:43] <neonkidxy> I know how to install from a flashdrive
[06:43] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, you can use plop install it in windows to boot a thumb.
[06:44] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, http://www.plop.at/
[06:44] <CFHowlett> neonkidxy   if you're computer won't support usb boot, I'm guess it's older or lower spec.  The alternate installer (text based) might be a better option for you as would possibly xubuntu or lubuntu.
[06:45] <CFHowlett> *your computer*
[06:45] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, use unetbootin to load the thumb there is a windows version.
[06:45] <neonkidxy> I'm burning it at 4x speed, and I've tried those
[06:46] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, if you can't boot a thumb your best with a cd really in the long run a a tool.
[06:46] <urfr332gO> as*
[06:47] <Blue1> must be an old machine - more then 10 years ago
[06:47] <bird> hello
[06:47] <Blue1> howdy tex bird
[06:47] <CFHowlett> bird   tweet
[06:48] <bird> This is my first tohere
[06:48] <Escherial> ok, so apparently the reason i can't hibernate is because i don't have a swap partition. unfortunately, i don't have the ubuntu install cd handy...is there any way i can create a swap partition without it? alternatively, can i just create a swapfile and expect to be able to hibernate?
[06:49] <CFHowlett> bird   what's your ubuntu question?
[06:49] <bird> No,think you
[06:49] <CFHowlett> Escherial   creating partitions can only be done safely while dismounted.  sorry.
[06:50] <urfr332gO> Escherial, a swap cauld be made if you have a unallocated or make one in home. Not having a disc is not good by the way.
[06:50] <Blue1> what urfr332gO said
[06:50] <markSander> Why are there no woman or niggers that use Linux? OK its a know fact that woman have an IQ that is lower then mean. But Ubuntu is retarded easy. I for one want to see more niggers on nix systems. Kind of like a zillion monkeys finally writing Shakespeare. Woman OTOH are just hopeless. Any ideas? Don't use Ubuntu (ArchLinux) but I figured I would find woman and niggers here who are willing to have an open debate on the subject.
[06:50] <urfr332gO> !op | markSander
[06:51] <CFHowlett> *annnnnnnnnd another troll gets added to the eternal ignore roll*
[06:51] <Blue1> someone escort him to the exit
[06:52] <Blue1> How long is forever sir?  it's an eternity.
[06:52] <tempest> Looks like that IP is a VPN =/
[06:52] <Escherial> meh :|
[06:53] <CFHowlett> tempest   how can you tell?
[06:53] <tempest> CFHowlett I looked it up. Says "Hide My Ass" VPN
[06:54] <CFHowlett> tempest   lol.  ok, that is a somwehat subtle clue.
[06:55] <LoganShaw> is ubottu an AI Sentinel?
[06:55] <smw> !anything
[06:55] <Blue1> uh-oh.  in 5 minutes I revert back to a pumpkin
[06:55] <smw> LoganShaw, I would say yes
[06:57] <urfr332gO> !cookie | smw
[06:57] <Blue1> do they serve donuts?
[06:58]  * smw wonders if it is a sarcasm cookie but takes it anyways
[06:58] <urfr332gO> only voodoo donuts.
[06:58] <tilde_> !exfat
[06:58] <Blue1> urfr332gO: I've heard of them -- northwest -- seattle or portland I want to say?
[06:58] <LoganShaw> whoa somebody programmed a pseudo-personality into the sentinel
[06:59] <urfr332gO> Blue1, Portland I'm 20 blocks from it.
[06:59] <fluvvell> does anyone know the secret to logging into the Mythbuntu live CD?
[06:59] <smw> LoganShaw, it is GLaDOS in disguise
[06:59] <Blue1> urfr332gO: please next time you go there, take a picture for me.
[06:59] <Zillow> how can I change a username and have it reflect upon everything
[06:59] <urfr332gO> Blue1, I never go though I wouldn't leave. :)
[06:59] <Blue1> urfr332gO: we only get the "quality challenged" donuts here.
[06:59] <smw> fluvvell, it is not supported here. But have you tried the user ubuntu?
[07:00] <fluvvell> smw, yes but it wants a password
[07:00] <fluvvell> and its not null
[07:00] <smw> fluvvell, ubuntu?
[07:00] <fluvvell> nope
[07:00] <Blue1> urfr332gO: you don't have to buy a donut, to take a pic.
[07:00] <smw> fluvvell, check the mythbuntu docs I guess
[07:00] <fluvvell> well, maybe but it gives a failed to login to failsafe session...
[07:00] <urfr332gO> Blue1, even better, http://voodoodoughnut.com/index.php
[07:01] <fluvvell> to be honest it looks like a graphics card failure smw,
[07:01] <fluvvell> driver i mean
[07:01] <Blue1> fruit loops on a donut?
[07:01] <fluvvell> it really annoys me when flagship boot cds don't work for inexperienced users
[07:02] <Ben64> flagship?
[07:02] <urfr332gO> Blue1, bacon as well.
[07:03] <fluvvell> Ben64, ok dumb word
[07:03] <fluvvell> but its a good product to demo, and it *should* just work!!
[07:03] <biopyte> hi. i just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and there are several issues: First: Why doesnt "Ctrl + left button" grab the window, so it can be dragged around? Second: Why cant I move windows from one desktop to the other using a desktop wall? also sliding from one desktop to the other by touching the edges with the mouse doe not work anymore.
[07:03] <Ben64> go tell mythbuntu?
[07:04] <Blue1> oh lord
[07:04] <fluvvell> Ben64, nobody there to complain to ;-) Thanks for listening.
[07:06] <biopyte> 11.10 is a disappointment. the classic gnome desktop does not look as good as it used to. gnome3 and unity are inacceptable.
[07:06] <crizzy> classic gnome sucks. unity ftw
[07:07] <Blue1> crizzy: let's not start any flame wars
[07:07] <crizzy> no flame, just opinions
[07:07] <CFHowlett> Fortunately there are at least 4 other official ubuntu flavors as well as hundreds of other distros.
[07:07] <biopyte> i'm afraid we have the climax of ubuntu behind us. now comes "fixing things that were not broken" and messing everything up..
[07:08] <Blue1> what biopyte said
[07:08] <freshone0> i have no sound how do i corect the problem?
[07:08] <biopyte> i hope not so
[07:08] <freshone0> how do i check what is wrong
[07:09] <Blue1> biopyte: i am on 10.10 and will prolly go to debian rsn (reall soon now)
[07:09] <crizzy> yes, because debian will save you from gnome3.. not.
[07:09] <freshone0> no sound on my speakers or head phones
[07:09] <Blue1> I migrated on of my mahcines to debian - then the sata controller took a dump
[07:09] <crizzy> gnome2 is EOL and it will disappear from every distro
[07:10] <Blue1> crizzy: perhaps -- but I know that Linus went to xfce rather then use gnome 3.
[07:10] <freshone0> iam new to ubuntu please tell me if there is no sound how does one check and correct it
[07:10] <biopyte> yeah, maybe xfce
[07:10] <Blue1> freshone0:  System/Administration/System Testing
[07:10] <biopyte> i never tried it
[07:11] <crizzy> Blue1: just like xfce is right in the ubuntu repos, apt-get away...
[07:11] <freshone0> did that it generated a report that failed afew tests
[07:11] <freshone0> now how to correct it
[07:11] <Blue1> crizzy: yup.  i may go that route
[07:11] <biopyte> crizzy, i definitly need a virtual desktop, does xfce have it?
[07:11] <crizzy> yes
[07:11] <freshone0> how to check if drivers are ok
[07:11] <biopyte> ok
[07:11] <crizzy> it's pretty close to classic gnome2
[07:11] <biopyte> cool
[07:11] <Blue1> freshone0: huh?
[07:11] <biopyte> thx
[07:12] <Warp4> freshone0 lspci
[07:12] <tempest> biopyte I am using Debian wheezy at work. We use xfce and have make it look just like Gnome 2.32. Compiz and all. Today Forfox (they called it IW) 10.0.2. For desktops use the Wheezy version. The repos are freash. If you give Unity a chance its not all that bad though.
[07:12] <freshone0> what is that?
[07:12] <freshone0> do i type that in the terminal?
[07:12] <Warp4> freshone0 yes
[07:12] <Blue1> freshone0: try lspci | grep Audio
[07:12] <Warp4> freshone0 lspci lists pci devices installed in your system
[07:13] <biopyte> tempest, thanks,  concerning unity anf gnome3 ... when i see these oversized, baby-style icons ... i'm already fed up
[07:13] <Blue1> i have been playing with linux mint - I think that might be good for a n00b
[07:13] <tempest> biopyte if you dont like Unity you wont like Gnome3.
[07:13] <biopyte> right
[07:14] <freshone0> it shows:prasad@DIMAC-X:~$  lspci | grep Audio
[07:14] <freshone0> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[07:14] <Blue1> freshone0: ah good linux at least sees it
[07:14] <freshone0> and the word audio is in red
[07:14] <freshone0> ok then why no sound?
[07:14] <biopyte> tempest, i had such a nice workflow on my previous gnome desktop , but 11.10 f...cked it up
[07:14] <Blue1> freshone0: yeah no worry about that just highlighed the word
[07:15] <freshone0> ok now what to do next
[07:15] <Blue1> freshone0: have you looked at the alsa-mixer
[07:15] <freshone0> alsa mixer... how?
[07:15] <Blue1> freshone0: or alsamixer
[07:15] <Blue1> just type in alsamixer at the command prompt
[07:16] <freshone0> it shows a graph
[07:16] <Blue1> freshone0: yes
[07:16] <Warp4> freshone0 what version of ubuntu?
[07:16] <Blue1> that was my next question
[07:16] <freshone0> 11.04
[07:17] <Blue1> freshone0: was that a clean install, or an upgrade?
[07:17] <freshone0> upgrade
[07:17] <Blue1> freshone0: that may be the problem - upgrades are problematic at best --
[07:18] <freshone0> and it worked fine but my maid shut the pc suddenly so all sound vanished
[07:18] <Blue1> freshone0: consider backing up /etc/ and /home/   and then doing a clean install
[07:18] <CFHowlett> silly question, I know, but ... is the sound switch turned on or muted?
[07:18] <freshone0> how do i get the sound back?
[07:18] <Blue1> freshone0: see above
[07:18] <biopyte> still, is there a way to tweak edge flipping again using classic gnome on 11.10. the setting in the compiz manager is fine, still doesnt work.
[07:18] <biopyte> ?
[07:19] <CFHowlett> freshone0   is there a sound mute button on your keyboard?
[07:19] <freshone0> no
[07:19] <freshone0> and on screen volume is full
[07:20] <freshone0> i checked sound preferences it is not mute
[07:20] <Blue1> freshone0: did the alsa mixer show anything muted, or at zero?
[07:20] <Warp4> freshone0 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1744966
[07:20] <freshone0> internal bar shows no color
[07:21] <CFHowlett> freshone0   = muted
[07:21] <Xeneth> night peeps.
[07:21] <freshone0> the last coloumn in the alsamixer shows no color
[07:22] <CFHowlett> freshone0   "last one"?  no labels underneath the bar?  let's be precise if possible.
[07:22] <freshone0> internal label
[07:22] <Gitzo> wow..   ubuntu is intersting
[07:22] <CFHowlett> freshone0  Master should be maxed
[07:22] <Blue1> freshone0: should show green/white/red
[07:22] <Ububegin> I have added a new opencv.pc file to pkg--config.. but I still see the old pkg--config.. How do i update/refresh it to the new one w/o restarting the computre
[07:23] <freshone0> master = green white
[07:23] <freshone0> pcm=green white red
[07:23] <CFHowlett> freshone0   I'm pretty sure "internal" is the PC Beep, i.e. system sounds.  Have you tried a video or music cd?
[07:23] <Blue1> Ububegin: sudo apt-get update follwed by sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:23] <freshone0> mic green white red
[07:24] <Blue1> what about pcm?
[07:24] <Blue1> okay pumpkin time
[07:24] <Blue1> !away
[07:25] <Ububegin> Blue1 : Think it is a wrong solution... didnt work
[07:25] <Blue1> Ububegin: you can also use synaptic to remove/re-install a package -- or apt-get to remove or purge a package
[07:27] <Ububegin> Blue1 : sorry, let me rephrase the question.. I have the default opencv 2.1 by Ubuntu.. I have installed the new one opencv2.3 from the tar.gz.. Anyone knows how to configure it for pkg-config.... I just copied the new opencv.pc file onto the /usr/lib/pkgconfig folder
[07:37] <nn52> hello
[07:38] <nn52> i've problem with WiFi USB Adapter ( Edimax) => http://wklej.to/TaC5M | in Wirless Networks: Disconnected ;(
[07:41] <urfr332gO> !wifi
[07:42] <LoganShaw> how to trigger the SENTINEL into saying things?
[07:43] <urfr332gO> nn52, Edimax isl isted on the bots page not sure if it is your model though.
[07:43] <nn52> EW-7711USn
[07:44] <E-nigma> Hello all
[07:45] <nn52> The problem is that: Network applet does not show the available networks. It says only: Disconnected
[07:45] <urfr332gO> nn52, you will have to look yourself really, personally since usb wifi is cheap I would get one that works out of the box.
[07:45] <nn52> on box is : Support Windows 2k/Xp/Vista/7,Linux,Mac 10.4.x and above
[07:46] <elisa87> hello. are you aware of any room related to machine learning or information retrieval?
[07:48] <urfr332gO> nn52, about 300 or more linux distros though, the bots page gives a list of ones that work that one is not there.
[07:48] <urfr332gO> nn52, does not mean you can't get it to but your hill to climb really. :)
[07:49] <Guest88535> test from irssi
[08:01] <ubuntu_dream2k2> hi
[08:01] <LoganShaw> hello
[08:01] <ubuntu_dream2k2> im installing 10.04 LTS server
[08:01] <ubuntu_dream2k2> and its taking a long time at "wiping swap area...."
[08:02] <ubuntu_dream2k2> hi loganshaw
[08:02] <Yancho_> guys is it possible to check if a cd has a 32 bit version or a 64 bit version please?
[08:03] <ubuntu_dream2k2> anyone can throw some light
[08:04] <jaytee77> wow no hot ladies here huh?
[08:05] <borkedhelix> does openldap only allow connections from localhost by default for some reason?
[08:05] <borkedhelix> I just installed an openldap server, and I can connect to it from localhost, but not remotely
[08:06] <Engin> is it recommended to upgrade kernel on a ubuntu server ? if so, why they are held back by default ?
[08:11] <Engin> 1400 users and no one talking ?
[08:11] <urfr332gO> Engin, hey most are idling. :)
[08:12] <LoganShaw> it's quiet time, the AI said so
[08:13] <jaytee77> any hot florida ladies wanna chat?
[08:13] <jaytee77>  8-)
[08:13] <urfr332gO> jaytee77, wrong channel.
[08:13] <jaytee77> o
[08:13] <jaytee77> k
[08:13] <jaytee77> ;p
[08:14] <jaytee77> what channel
[08:14] <jaytee77> ?
[08:14] <urfr332gO> jaytee77, no idea
[08:14] <jaytee77> ty
[08:15] <jaytee77> new here,srry
[08:15] <Engin> wow, a system with 300 days uptime... was telling me reboot required... i rebooted.. now plymouthd consuming 100% CPU, slowing it down
[08:19] <dejoker> vb b b
[08:20] <malkauns> Engin, dont reboot it next time :P
[08:34] <haylo> ok so i slimed down my ubuntu install to just openbox and fglx and remastersys- but i  accideantly have no sound- brobably deleted all the sound stuff? is there an easy fix for this? i am 4 generations in to a new iso. alsamixer does not work right
[08:34] <haylo> like install magical-ubuntusoundsystem?
[08:34] <nathaneltitane> pulseaudio
[08:35] <haylo> yeah i installed that it shows its running but no sound
[08:35] <T_H_X> love pulse
[08:35] <nathaneltitane> open terminal
[08:35] <nathaneltitane> alsamixer
[08:35] <nathaneltitane> pump all gauges to max
[08:35] <haylo> no alsamixer
[08:36] <haylo> maybe i need backports?
[08:36] <nathaneltitane> so install the alsa
[08:36] <nathaneltitane> you should verify dependencies before purging
[08:36] <haylo> yeah
[08:37] <haylo> its installed oh well maybe i will have to start over :(
[08:37] <nathaneltitane> no
[08:37] <nathaneltitane> look into the mixer stuff first
[08:38] <haylo> i cant open it. it says alsa is installed but alsamixer brings nothing up command not found
[08:38] <haylo> ah i opned it with sudo
[08:40] <Seryth> I'm just trying openbox for the first time, and I'm trying to use obmenu to configure, but when I run "obmenu" from terminal I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/858879/ I've tried purging it and installing again, same thing....what could I do? Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit.
[08:40] <haylo> everythings all the way up and nothing. maybe the user  is not set up right in my remastered iso
[08:40] <haylo> i can only get into alsamixer with sudo alsamixer
[08:43] <NoOova> what different is in /etc/timezone  and /etc/localtime
[08:45] <manojhans> hi
[08:46] <manojhans> i have this problem. my bluetooth adapter.s are not found..
[08:46] <manojhans> i m on HP laptop
[08:52] <xxxxxx> Hello
[09:05] <JDizzle> hey
[09:08] <Rurd2di_> hey
[09:09] <Rurd2di_> how can i tell onceiric upgrade to fuck off my console scree\n?
[09:09] <Rurd2di_> *screen
[09:10] <bazhang> Rurd2di, no cursing here
[09:10] <Rurd2di> k
[09:11] <bazhang> care to restate Rurd2di
[09:11] <Rurd2di> i just dont wanna see upgrade to oneiric thing anymore
[09:11] <Rurd2di> as i will never do it
[09:11] <bazhang> Rurd2di, in the update manager?
[09:11] <Rurd2di> from console
[09:11] <Rurd2di> ssh
[09:11] <Rurd2di> i mean
[09:12] <bazhang> Rurd2di, whats the exact message you are seeing
[09:13] <Rurd2di> New release 'oneiric' available.
[09:13] <Rurd2di> Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.
[09:13] <Rurd2di> lol
[09:13] <Rurd2di> annoyin
[09:13] <FloodBot1> Rurd2di: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:13] <undeclaredx> I'm having some issues with samba.  I set the auth-type to user, but it's not actually able to log in. Does anyone know what this problem might be?
[09:14] <sgo11> hi, how to install apache mod-security module in ubuntu 11.10?  I tried : apt-get install libapache-mod-security mod-security-common. it gives me error: libapache-mod-security : Depends: libapache2-modsecurity but it is not going to be installed.
[09:15] <oCean> Rurd2di: check the /etc/update-motd.d/ directory, there's a couple of script that update the motd file: 91-release-upgrade does the check for available updates
[09:17] <Rurd2di> oCean: can i delete it?
[09:17] <Rurd2di> without harming the os
[09:17] <oCean> Rurd2di: I added an exit 0 on the 2nd line..
[09:18] <Rurd2di> at the end?
[09:18] <Sakuya> I have a simple question about ram timings. What would be the best channel to ask about that or is here okay?
[09:19] <oCean> Rurd2di: you can probably delete it, but since I'm not sure if anything else is going to complain about missing files I edit it like so: http://paste.ubuntu.com/858918/
[09:19] <Rurd2di> http://paste.ubuntu.com/858918/
[09:20] <metabaron_> Hi all. What's up with the SYSV (init.d) vs Upstart? The default runlevels for example "sendsig" seems to be wrong in rc6.d
[09:20] <Rurd2di> oops
[09:20] <DJones> Sakuya: Possibly ##hardware might be the best channel for that
[09:20] <undeclaredx> I'm having some issues with samba.  I set the auth-type to user, but no user is able to log in, even if I manually set it to valid users = name_of_user_here for that share.. Does anyone know what this problem might be?
[09:20] <Sakuya> Thanks DJones
[09:21] <metabaron_> As a result to this filesystems doesn't get unmounted like they should (Ohh... yes... running Lucid)
[09:23] <nomad_fr> Hi
[09:23] <Rurd2di> thanks oCean
[09:23] <Rurd2di> that fixed it for good
[09:24] <Rurd2di> :D
[09:24] <Rurd2di> no more update warning
[09:26] <Sakuya> DJones: Thanks again for directing me to that channel. Didn't know it existed but they were able to help me no problem =D
[09:26] <nomad_fr> I've got some trouble with my user on ubuntu 11.10. It seems that there choice of session isn't record... Each time they log on with gdm they have to choose xfce or gnome or kde, i want that this choise to be record
[09:26] <DJones> Sakuya: Your welcome
[09:37] <devpilot> which IM Client is best on ubuntu?
[09:37] <god-zotac> devpilot:: that could vary based on opinion
[09:37] <crizzy> empathy / pidgin are fine
[09:37] <Yancho_> pidgin for me
[09:38] <god-zotac> devpilot:: try out empathy or gaim and make the decision
[09:38] <god-zotac> err not gaim but pidgin ;)
[09:38] <devpilot> I tried Empathy and Pidgin both have some bugs, some pros and cons
[09:39] <LoganShaw> do they both put your passwords in super secured, NSA-approved plaintext files?
[09:40] <god-zotac> lol
[09:41] <devpilot> god-zotac: I liked pidgin more bcoz i.m using it for long time, but Empathy have mice interface ;)
[09:41] <devpilot> *nice
[09:42] <undeclaredx> hehe
[09:42] <god-zotac> empathy has came a long way i agree. but pidgin interface hasn't really changed a lot.. some people like things that change, and some people like things to stay as close to the same as possilbe..  diff strokes for diff folks ;)
[09:42] <devpilot> lol :D
[09:42] <god-zotac> with empathy being maintained by the gnome project, i wouldn't expect it to stay anywhere near the same for very long ;)
[09:44] <metabaron_> Do anyone have a clue how to restore the SYSV runlevels? Running Lucid. Do I need to do this manually?
[09:44] <devpilot> god-zotac: U mean the bugs and enhancement will be quicker for Empathy
[09:44] <Guest72262> hey
[09:45] <god-zotac> devpilot:: i mean that the interface is liable to change in the next release to  be completely different than what it is now
[09:45] <devpilot> Oh
[09:45] <Guest72262> whats empathy?
[09:46] <devpilot> Guest72262: Empathy is a IM client
[09:46] <metabaron_> Guest72262: empathy is a instant messaging client
[09:46] <god-zotac> Guest72262:: it is an instant messenger based on gtk+ and telepathy
[09:46] <Guest72262> interesting
[09:46] <Guest72262> is it like this i mean with the anynonimity
[09:47] <Guest72262> or do you not need a tor or something like vidalia
[09:47] <god-zotac> Guest72262:: what is anonymous about: ~Servo@c-68-80-154-240.hsd1.de.comcast.net
[09:48] <kalim0j0> anyone use cryptkeeper ?
[09:48] <devpilot> I like the speech bubble style chat on  Empathy, Is there something on pidgin to get such style
[09:49] <metabaron_> Guest72262: your host is known to us. You will need to register to get a "hidden" host. But then you are registered...
[09:49] <god-zotac> devpilot:: yea thats one of the slickest features in empathy i agree
[09:49] <god-zotac> hidden host being a cloak. and you will need to get that in ##Freenode
[09:49] <Guest72262> gotcha
[09:49] <god-zotac> may just be #Freenode
[09:50] <Guest72262> how do i register?
[09:50] <dddbmt> Which clients is there for running Skype chat under ubuntu?
[09:50] <god-zotac> Guest72262:: /msg nickserv register help
[09:50] <Myrtti> as interesting as comparing different IM clients is, could we move back to Ubuntu support issues and questions? I'm afraid that part is being neglected now.
[09:50] <DJones> !register | Guest72262
[09:50] <dddbmt> I don't  want the "Skype" program as it is a piece of shitty software.
[09:50] <Myrtti> !language | dddbmt
[09:50] <nomad_fr> I've got some trouble with my user on ubuntu 11.10. It seems that there choice of session isn't record... Each time they log on with gdm they have to choose xfce or gnome or kde, i want that this choise to be record
[09:51] <Myrtti> dddbmt: Skype is proprietary protocol, if you want to call others using Skype, you need Skype.
[09:51] <god-zotac> dddbmt:: skype uses a proprietary protocol, i'm not aware of any clients that will connect to skype network without breaking their licensing
[09:51] <devpilot> dddbmt: Skype have there own client on ubuntu
[09:51] <metabaron_> Are there any limitations for webchat users here?
[09:52] <god-zotac> has google ever done anything with gizmo since it purchased it?
[09:52] <undeclaredx> Nobody can help me? Been asking the same question for like half an hour..  I have a samba login (only one is valid for this share), security = user, and no matter what I type, the l/p will not work.  Even tried local machine, no go.
[09:52] <oCean> god-zotac: how is that an #ubuntu issue?
[09:52] <Myrtti> undeclaredx: you made a smbpassword?
[09:52] <god-zotac> metabaron_:: limitations with the client not being a full IRC client yes, as far as just chatting and using the server commands no
[09:52] <oCean> metabaron_: on the freenode network? Ask in #freenode channel
[09:52] <undeclaredx> Myrtti: no, I was hoping user would use the unix auth? I have to make an smbpassword?
[09:52] <god-zotac> oCean:: wow, my BAD
[09:53] <metabaron_> Ok oCean god-zotac: thanks and sorry
[09:53] <dddbmt> god-zotac, Not even if I'm only interested in the chat part of skype? Not talking.
[09:53] <undeclaredx> Myrtti: so security = user does not rely on unix auth? my bad..
[09:53] <kalim0j0> anyone use cryptkeeper ?
[09:53] <Myrtti> undeclaredx: the exact command is smbpasswd actually, I haven't used it for a while but you might find more information on it yourself
[09:54] <kalim0j0> anyone know how strong encfs is ?
[09:54] <undeclaredx> weird
[09:54] <resident> O.O wats cryptkeeper
[09:54] <Myrtti> dddbmt: all implementations I've seen require you to have Skype client installed and running, even if you are using some other client to interact with that
[09:54] <kalim0j0> resident: its a frontend gui for encfs
[09:54] <Seryth> I'm just trying openbox for the first time, and I'm trying to use obmenu to configure, but when I run "obmenu" from terminal I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/858879/ I've tried purging it and installing again, same thing....what could I do? Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit.
[09:54] <resident> trilliam on windows can connect to skype
[09:55] <resident> w/o skype running
[09:55] <god-zotac> trillian is available for linux too isnt it?
[09:55] <resident> i do not recall
[09:55] <Seryth> It is
[09:55] <ServoVonServo> so i should be hidden now that im registered?
[09:55] <ServoVonServo> so im hidden now?
[09:56] <oCean> ServoVonServo: no, you need to ask for a cloak in #freenode channel
[09:56] <god-zotac> ServoVonServo:: no you don't have a cloak
[09:56] <devpilot> :D
[09:56] <undeclaredx> Myrtti: heh that instantly worked.. wish someone could have told me that awhile ago ;)
[09:56] <god-zotac> ServoVonServo:: see how EdwardIII had the unaffiliated/edward123  ?  that's a cloak.. it hides his IP/domain name
[09:57] <extender> I'm trying to forward a port to an internal address, not sure where I'm going wrong, what's the best tool for this using ubuntu server?
[09:57] <kalim0j0> anyone know how strong encfs is ?
[09:57] <ServoVonServo> how do i get a cloak
[09:57] <oCean> ServoVonServo: again, ask in #freenode, not here
[09:57] <god-zotac> extender:: do you have a firewall outside the box that runs nat?
[09:57] <god-zotac> extender:: or is your server using iptables with nat and acting as a gateway?
[09:58] <extender> god-zotac: the server is DMZed
[09:58] <Jan_-> hello, I have a problem, I have a encrypted home folder from previous account that I can not access, how to access it? I have the pass phrase and password written down when it said to do so :D
[09:58] <extender> god-zotac: but I'm on the internal network
[09:58] <god-zotac> extender:: then you will need to set up your server to be a gateway and use nat, and then use iptables to forward ports to each machine
[09:59] <swaikar> ritz, ping
[09:59] <extender> god-zotac: I'm only trying to set a single rule
[09:59] <god-zotac> extender::  i have a nat/dns/dhcp system set up on my server, if you would like me to pastebin the iptables rules with comments i use i don't mind
[10:00] <extender> god-zotac: that might help
[10:00] <undeclaredx> Myrtti: much appreciated.
[10:00] <Myrtti> undeclaredx: np
[10:00] <god-zotac> extender:: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/557406/
[10:01] <manisabri> Hi guys . I have a pen tablet, and a dual monitor setup in 11.04 , who can I restrict my pen movement only to one monitor?
[10:01] <extender> I just want to forward 192.168.1.116:8888 to 192.168.56.101:80
[10:01] <god-zotac> extender you will first want to get nat up
[10:02] <extender> god-zotac: for 1 rule?
[10:02] <god-zotac> extender:: set the external modem or whatever to forward port 8888 to your dmz'd server
[10:03] <extender> god-zotac: everything goes to the server
[10:03] <god-zotac> and then set a rule to forward to port 80 on machine 101 like:  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -i ${WAN} -j DNAT --to 192.168.56.101
[10:04] <god-zotac> extender::  $WAN being your interface for the external network, usually eth0
[10:04] <extender> here is what I did
[10:05] <extender> god-zotac: sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 8888 -j DNAT --to 192.168.56.101:80
[10:05] <ServoVonServo> now cloaked
[10:05] <extender> god-zotac: sudo iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i eth0 -d 192.168.56.101 --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[10:05] <ServoVonServo> does anyone know of a good jailbreak program for an ipod touch running ios 4.3.5
[10:05] <ikonia> ServoVonServo: sorry, no jailbreaking applications on ubuntu
[10:06] <god-zotac> extender:: don't think iptables takes rules in the form of ipaddress:port
[10:06] <ServoVonServo> gotcha
[10:06] <_nullthree> hi
[10:06] <ServoVonServo> eh ill figure something out
[10:07] <god-zotac> extender:: that may work, but you may need to just add a simple forward --dport 80
[10:07] <ServoVonServo> i have other systems with other os' on them so i could try those
[10:07] <ikonia> ServoVonServo: they would be supported in other IRC channels
[10:07] <extender> god-zotac: overwhelmed got an example?
[10:07] <ServoVonServo> yea im worried i wont be cloaked on other servers
[10:08] <ikonia> ServoVonServo: you will be cloaked on any freenode server
[10:08] <ServoVonServo> ohhh
[10:08] <ikonia> ServoVonServo: any questions regarding things such as cloaking can be resolved in #freenode
[10:08] <ServoVonServo> ok so any server nice
[10:08] <ServoVonServo> alright ill shut up now lol
[10:08] <god-zotac> extender:: are people going to be connecting to your ip on port 8888 from the internet?
[10:09] <extender> god-zotac: yes
[10:09] <god-zotac> and you want that forwarded to port 80 on the subnet?
[10:09] <extender> god-zotac: DMZ gets it to the server
[10:09] <extender> god-zotac: server needs to redirect to 56.101
[10:10] <ritz> swaikar,  hi
[10:11] <god-zotac> extender:: for the nat rule you mentioned to work you will need to add a masquerade
[10:12] <extender> god-zotac: I don't have  a clue where to add a masquerade
[10:12] <n3uron_> Hi guys. How can i detect if my system is muxed or muxless?
[10:13] <god-zotac> extender:: the script i pasted has that too ;)
[10:13] <extender> god-zotac: I'm just googling examples and trying to get something to work
[10:13] <extender> god-zotac: I don't want it to nat everything
[10:13] <god-zotac> extender:: pm me and ill help you
[10:16] <wolfric> how can i install and activate restricted drivers by commandline? I saw that it mentioned "broadcom sta" in the restricted drivers window
[10:16] <ndlovu> can anyone help me diagnose a mobile broadband issue (ubuntu 11.10)? After startup, if I plug in my 3g modem (USB), the connection shows up in Network Manager; but if the computer suspends, on wakeup, no amount of plugging in or out will get it to show up again. to connect, I have to restart.
[10:17] <wolfric> so i apt-get install broadcom-sta-common and broadcom-sta-source and restarted but it didn't activate them. i had to go to the restricted drivers window and click activate. I need to know as i'm building a live cd with them
[10:20] <anders_at> Hi. I have some questions regarding the ubuntu training courses. IS there a separate IRC room for that?
[10:20] <ikonia> anders_at: not that I'm aware of
[10:20] <ikonia> anders_at: maybe #ubuntu-offtopic would be the best place.
[10:20] <anders_at> ok, I#ll try it there. Thanx
[10:21] <ServoVonServo> anyone know were i can find a good darknet site?
[10:21] <ikonia> ServoVonServo: you understand this channel is for ubuntu linux support yes ?
[10:22] <Chipzzz> i'm having a log of trouble with a bind9 server... been trying to get it to work for days... are there any experts on the subject around?
[10:22] <Chipzzz> (lot)
[10:22] <ikonia> Chipzzz: just ask the question
[10:23] <Tigerwolf> i want my tower to run ubuntu but one or the other fails to work properly
[10:23] <ServoVonServo> ikonia sorry i have a couple things open i think i posted in the wrong window
[10:23] <ServoVonServo> but since im now focused on this i did have a WINE question
[10:23] <ikonia> ServoVonServo: #winehq is the wine support channel (FYI)
[10:23] <Tigerwolf> the cd setting is good on the tower
[10:23] <Chipzzz> ikonia: after a couple of days, i'm pretty much out of questions... looking more for inspiration, i think, but thanks :-)
[10:24] <fidel> Tigerwolf: whats the problem?
[10:24] <ikonia> Chipzzz: how do you expect me to help you when you won't say what the question/problem is ?
[10:24] <ServoVonServo> thanks ikonia :)
[10:24] <Tigerwolf> linux fails to load on boot up
[10:24] <Tigerwolf> after wubi
[10:25] <Chipzzz> lol... in a nutshell, the bind9 server isn't resolving hosts
[10:25] <fidel> not used to wubi myself - cant help you sorry. but try to mention the real problem - in best case with error output etc
[10:25] <fidel> meta-questions usually dont help in irc ;)
[10:25] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok - so what have you done to resolve this ? how are you testing, are there any errors, you need to give details if you are expecting help
[10:26] <Tigerwolf> ok i tryed the cd it has a problem loading the stuff
[10:26] <darrenlooby> Hello, I have an internal and external network. All internal IPs start with 10.*
[10:26] <darrenlooby> How do I block access using IP Tables to anything that doesn't start with 10.*
[10:26] <Tigerwolf> it has hundreds of errors loading this and that
[10:27] <Tigerwolf> i know the dl is complete
[10:27] <ikonia> Tigerwolf: have you tried ubuntu firewall ?
[10:27] <ikonia> !ufw > darrenlooby
[10:27] <ikonia> Tigerwolf: sorry that was for darrenlooby
[10:27] <ikonia> darrenlooby: have you tried ubuntu fire wall ? (ufw)
[10:27] <fidel> Tigerwolf: what is your main goal to install ubuntu? why would you need wubi for that?
[10:27] <darrenlooby> ikonia, I'm using UFW, yes.
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> Tigerwolf  wubi, you say?
[10:28] <fidel> Tigerwolf: have you tested if a ubuntu-live-cd works on that system?
[10:28] <Tigerwolf> wubi was my second option
[10:28] <Tigerwolf> and on boot up
[10:28] <Tigerwolf> it failed to load linux
[10:28] <darrenlooby> ikonia, I just don't know how to describe a range like that.
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> Tigerwolf  a live cd is more adviced than wubi
[10:28] <fidel> Tigerwolf: in some cases you might need to change the booting parameters - this is where the voodoo usualy begins for starters
[10:28] <Chipzzz> ikonia: i've tested the files & zones with named-checkconf & named-checkzone and they are valid but I'm trying to get it to provide A records for virtual hosts on the machine & it doesn't forward them upstream...
[10:29] <Tigerwolf> so im thinking its my tower hates linux
[10:29] <Salehi> i use ubuntu 12.4 -when i play video >x kill and logout - What can I do?
[10:29] <Tigerwolf> its old enought to use all hardware
[10:29] <Chipzzz> I put it in debug mode with rndc and saw that it is refusing requests to resolve the hosts
[10:29] <fidel> Salehi: no 12.04 support inhere
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Tigerwolf  maybe the tower just hates wubi
[10:30] <fidel> Salehi: afaik there is #ubuntu+1 or something
[10:30] <YohanMeister>  hi all. I have 3 identical make/model drives in my machine and am trying to identify which might correspond to sda (the first drive). The way they are listed is:  "pci-0000:00:11.0-scsi-2:0:0:0"  "pci-0000:00:11.0-scsi-1:0:0:0"  and  "pci-0000:00:11.0-scsi-0:0:0:0". Does anyone know about this?
[10:30] <Tigerwolf> but live cd does about the same
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> Tigerwolf  almost, but not quite
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> it *looks* the same
[10:31] <Tigerwolf> could it be in the motherboard settings or bios?
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> the problem is wubi
[10:31] <Tigerwolf> ok
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> better use a live cd
[10:32] <Tigerwolf> ill try live cd agian
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> Tigerwolf  what went wrong with the live cd?
[10:32] <Chipzzz> ikonia: also, dig only works for a master host... the slaves all return server errors...  at the moment, i think i have the db files pretty messed up from trying so many theories, but i can straighted that out, give some clue as to why it's being so difficult :-)
[10:33] <Chipzzz> (given some clue)
[10:33] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok - lets do some basic questions
[10:33] <Chipzzz> k... lemme log into the machine...
[10:33] <ikonia> Chipzzz: 1.) is this hosted in a data center on a home DSL/broadband style line ?
[10:33] <darrenlooby> ikonia, any ideas?
[10:34] <ikonia> darrenlooby: you'll need to subnet it down, 10.* is a massive range
[10:34] <ikonia> darrenlooby: so for example, 10.11.216.10/24
[10:34] <RiotingPacifist> suspend resume started failing the other day for me, I've tested on a kernel I know it worked on(3.0.0-15), the current one (3.0.0-16) and a newer one (3.3.0-rc4), it tends gets to a black screen on suspend then just hangs (if i use no_console_suspend, it says something about kworker being blocked) any idea what the cause could be?
[10:35] <Chipzzz> ikonia: it's a friend's machine in his office with a high speed connection (70mb)... fixed ip, no router in the middle
[10:35] <darrenlooby> ikonia, so, basically I'm going to need better data as to what IPs I'm expecting?
[10:35] <ikonia> Chipzzz: are you trying to resolve things internally on his netowrk, or from the public internet
[10:35] <head_victim> tci
[10:36] <ikonia> darrenlooby: well 10.0.0.0/24 would be a HUGE network range, you can do that if you want, I suspect it's not what you want to do though
[10:36] <ikonia> darrenlooby: try subnetmask.info for working out your ranges/masks
[10:37] <ikonia> darrenlooby: but basically thats how you do it, 10.1.2.0/8 for example, for an 8 bit mask of the 10.1.2.0 network
[10:37] <darrenlooby> ikonia, I'm fine with the big range for now. When I learn more, I can focus in... would it work if I put 10.0.0.0/24
[10:37] <ikonia> darrenlooby: suerw
[10:37] <ikonia> sure
[10:38] <darrenlooby> ikonia, I can work on reducing the range as I move forward. Thanks for your help :D
[10:38] <Chipzzz> ikonia: the object is to get 3 virtual named servers connected to a single ip accessible on the internet
[10:38] <ikonia> darrenlooby: no problem
[10:39] <ikonia> Chipzzz: are you expecting these to ac as proper authoritive name servers ?
[10:39] <ikonia> "act"
[10:40] <wolfric> how can i install and activate restricted drivers by commandline? I saw that it mentioned "broadcom sta" in the restricted drivers window
[10:40] <wolfric> so i apt-get install broadcom-sta-common and broadcom-sta-source and restarted but it didn't activate them. i had to go to the restricted drivers window and click activate. I need to know as i'm building a live cd with them
[10:40] <Chipzzz> ikonia: i don't really care, but don't i have to in order to make their canonical names available to the net?
[10:40] <darrenlooby> ikonia, so I don't break it... do I need to do that "allow" first, and then "disallow"?
[10:40] <darrenlooby> ikonia, or is there a "not" type clause?
[10:40] <ikonia> Chipzzz: sorry, you need to care
[10:41] <ikonia> darrenlooby: the rules are iptables, so think of it as a table, the query will go down the table of rules and match the first one it matches
[10:41] <ikonia> Chipzzz: are you expecting people to be able to visit say www.yourdomain.com that is on the public internet and it work ?
[10:42] <Chipzzz> ikonia: yes, that's why i think it has to be authoritative
[10:42] <darrenlooby> So, I would do "sudo ufw allow from 10.0.0.0/24 "
[10:42] <Chipzzz> doesn't it?
[10:42] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok - so then you are correct it needs to be authoritative
[10:43] <ikonia> Chipzzz: in that case you need to register the IP address / hostnames of the name servers you want to act as authoritive with the TLD name service registrar
[10:44] <Chipzzz> ikonia: done and done... the name servers at the registrar all point to a name server at one of my domains
[10:44] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok - so can you give me the public address of one of your name servers so I can run a test against it ?
[10:45] <Chipzzz> ikonia: ns1.shadyapps.com
[10:46] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok - so the domain server appears tobe listening "ok" on the net
[10:46] <ikonia> Chipzzz: can you give me one of the domains you want to resolve on this machine ?
[10:46] <Chipzzz> ikonia: sirjeffx.com
[10:46] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok
[10:48] <ikonia> Chipzzz: perfect, so they appear to be listening for that domain also, so at a top level, you look all good to go, so the issue must be with your local name server config
[10:48] <ikonia> Chipzzz: can you pastebin your configs please ?
[10:50] <Chipzzz> ikonia: k... hang on while i gather them...
[10:54] <darrenlooby> ikonia, I've added the accept and turned default to deny. Now it's just timing out when I try and ssh via an internal connection... do you think that this is because the range is too large?
[10:54] <ikonia> darrenlooby: possibly
[10:54] <ikonia> darrenlooby: what ip are you on internally
[10:55] <darrenlooby> ikonia,  10.176.94.55
[10:55] <ikonia> darrenlooby: and what was the deny rule you did
[10:56] <darrenlooby> Looking at what we've got so far - the internal IPs are starting 10.176.* and 10.177.*
[10:56] <goku886> ciao
[10:56] <darrenlooby> ikonia, "sudo ufw allow from 10.0.0.0/24"
[10:56] <ikonia> darrenlooby: so that should cover your range, hang on
[10:57] <Pumpkin-> 10.0.0.0/24 doesn't sound right. That is just 10.0.0.0 to 10.0.0.255.
[10:58] <ikonia> Pumpkin-: yes, /24 isn't right
[10:58] <ikonia> I'm just gettin the info from subnetmask.info
[10:58] <Pumpkin-> 10.176.0.0/15 sounds more like it
[10:58] <ikonia> Pumpkin-: I didn't have 10.176, just 10.*.*.* hence trying to make it wide
[10:58] <Pumpkin-> or 10.0.0.0/8 then :)
[10:58] <ikonia> there we go
[10:58] <ikonia> darrenlooby: /8 is better
[10:58] <ikonia> Pumpkin-: thanks
[10:59] <darrenlooby> Awesome, cheers
[10:59] <darrenlooby> That's working now
[10:59] <ikonia> darrenlooby: http://www.subnetmask.info/
[10:59] <ikonia> darrenlooby: very useful
[11:00] <darrenlooby> ikonia, Pumpkin-  cheers
[11:01] <darrenlooby> ikonia, Pumpkin- I've now opened up all ports to internal - trying to work out how to limit to 22 and 3306 in combination with that allow
[11:01] <ikonia> darrenlooby: -dport
[11:02] <Chipzzz> ikonia: sorry to keep you waiting... http://paste.ubuntu.com/859013/
[11:02] <ikonia> Chipzzz: not a problem
[11:02] <darrenlooby> So, do I deny -22?
[11:02] <ikonia> darrenlooby: I thought you wanted to accept 22 ?
[11:03] <goku8866> ciao
[11:04] <ikonia> Chipzzz: I'm going to ask a stupid question here, but I don't see your domains in that file at all, I see the zone files cut and paste into that file, but that'sn ot how you set it up
[11:04] <darrenlooby> ikonia, yea. Getting confused again. Don't worry, I think I've got it sorted now
[11:04] <fAz4> is there any plan for replacing X by wayland in 12.04 ?
[11:04] <ikonia> fAz4: there was supposed to be a technology preview of wayland in 12.04 but I don't think it made it in
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> fAz4  not yet in 12.04
[11:05] <fAz4> MonkeyDust: what about future ?
[11:05] <ikonia> fAz4: #ubuntu+1 is for 12.04 discussion, no-one knows what's in beyond that
[11:06] <fAz4> thanks
[11:07] <Chaitanya_> What is the alternative to Autocad in ubuntu?
[11:07] <undeclaredx> Windows
[11:07] <undeclaredx> lol
[11:07] <undeclaredx> nah well
[11:07] <LjL> Chaitanya_: i'm afraid there isn't really a comparable alternative :\
[11:07] <undeclaredx> Autocad is a very specific app, I didn't even know they made it for ubuntu
[11:07] <ikonia> Chipzzz: cad programs are really very scarce and limited
[11:07] <undeclaredx> Mostly, you'd have to switch to Windows or Mac OS
[11:07] <ikonia> oops
[11:07] <ikonia> Chaitanya_: ^
[11:07] <undeclaredx> there is however, one.. but it's not for autocad specifically
[11:07] <undeclaredx> well a few, but they are modelling, not autocad
[11:07] <ikonia> sorry Chipzzz, let me know when you are back, I can see issues with your bind setup
[11:07] <LjL> Chaitanya_: some CAD programs are qcad, varkon, pythoncad, sagcad
[11:08] <Chaitanya_> Ljl, thank you. I will check them out and come back here. Have a nice day!  :)
[11:08] <Chaitanya_> ikonia, Ok. :(
[11:09] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys, is it advisable to remove all traces of Unity from Oneiric (apt-get remoe .*unity.*)?
[11:09] <Chipzzz> ikonia: that would explain a lot... (b/t/w/ i had an entry for sirjeffx.com in named.conf.local, but it got lost in the messing around)... any help would be appreciated...
[11:09] <himawijaya> tes
[11:09] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok, well, I can go through this with you
[11:09] <ikonia> Chipzzz: do you have the config file in front of you ?
[11:10] <Chipzzz> ikonia: yes, it's just a bunch of includes
[11:10] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok look at lines 8 - 12
[11:10] <ikonia> Chipzzz: that the line that says "how the domain shadyapps.com"
[11:10] <ubuntu-guy> hi
[11:10] <ikonia> Chipzzz: as you can see it points to a file "/etc/bind/db.shadyapps.com" that contains your zone date for shadyapps.com
[11:10] <ikonia> Chipzzz: follow ?
[11:11] <Chipzzz> ikonia: yes...
[11:11] <crizzy> Mayazcherquoi: if you don't use it you can remove it..
[11:12] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok, so that's all good, scroll down to lines 44, until the bottom of the config
[11:12] <Mayazcherquoi> crizzy: But I mean the whole thing?
[11:12] <crizzy> Mayazcherquoi: if you don't use it, sure you can remove it :)
[11:12] <ikonia> Chipzzz: that data is zone data, you don't put zone data in the config file, you put that in the zone file,
[11:12] <Mayazcherquoi> crizzy: It'll also uninstall gnome-session, but I use gnome-shell? :s
[11:12] <ikonia> Chipzzz: you put a line like lines 8 - 12 to say "host this domain, and look at this file for the zone data"
[11:12] <abhinavmehta> how to generate public-private key pair, using auto(eg. command line args) passphrase…using openssl?
[11:12] <ikonia> Chipzzz: then you put the zone data in the file you pointed at,
[11:13] <ikonia> Chipzzz: in your example, you don't have the lines that say "host this domain" you've just dumped the zone data into the config file
[11:13] <ikonia> Chipzzz: follow ?
[11:13] <ubuntu-guy> I don't see the Location bar... where it is, where is the file browser menu ?
[11:13] <crizzy> Mayazcherquoi: should not matter.. you can install gnome-session back anyway afterwards if it was necessary
[11:13] <Mayazcherquoi> crizzy: Okay
[11:13] <Mayazcherquoi> crizzy: Ta :)
[11:14] <crizzy> Mayazcherquoi: actually i don't think gnome-shell/gnome3 uses gnome-session at all
[11:14] <crizzy> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/more-classic-gnome-session-lands-in.html hmm
[11:15] <Chipzzz> ikonia: i must be looking at the wrong file... line 44 is the beginning of a reverse dns file (db.70), isn't it?
[11:15] <ikonia> Chipzzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/859013/
[11:15] <ikonia> Chipzzz: lets look at the same reference
[11:16] <pokuy> crizzy, do you know what is the linux help channel on xchat?
[11:16] <crizzy> no
[11:17] <ikonia> pokuy: what are you looking for /
[11:17] <Chipzzz> ikonia: it is the same file... from what i was reading, i thought that was a reverse dns entry
[11:17] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok, lets try again
[11:17] <pokuy> ikonia, linux help center and ubuntu hel center
[11:17] <ikonia> pokuy: you are in an ubuntu support channel
[11:17] <ikonia> Chipzzz: so lines 8 - 12, got them ?
[11:18] <pokuy> ah... isee how about in linux mint help?
[11:18] <undeclaredx> using samba, is there any way to join 4 paths into one samba share?
[11:18] <ikonia> pokuy: that is on a different IRC network, not freenode
[11:18] <kinglet> hello all, i want to install ubuntu on my laptop and i got busybox error! (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system. is this bcuz of my H.D.D?
[11:18] <stephanb> undeclaredx: you could use symlinks
[11:18] <pokuy> ikonia, ah ok thanks man
[11:18] <undeclaredx> stephanb: I guess, but it'd take a while
[11:19] <undeclaredx> actually not that long
[11:19] <ikonia> pokuy: all detailed on the mint website
[11:19] <undeclaredx> a small ln -s shell script would be fairly easy, actually
[11:19] <Chipzzz> ikonia: yes, master zone, specifies the db file, allows transfer to a secondary ns... right?
[11:19] <ikonia> Chipzzz: correct, so in your head tick that as "that is how you define a zone"
[11:19] <ikonia> Chipzzz: so we both agree that is a good entry yes ?
[11:19] <pokuy> ikonia, ok thanks
[11:20] <undeclaredx> stephanb: but is there any non-artificial ways...
[11:20] <Chipzzz> ikonia: lol... so far, so good... and named-checkzone agreed with us that it was ok :-)
[11:21] <stephanb> undeclaredx: what exactly do you want to do? share 4 directorys as one on samba?
[11:21] <undeclaredx> pretty much
[11:21] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok so that 1 entry hosts the zone data for shadyapps.com, show me where in the config file you specify "host the data for sirjeffx.com"
[11:21] <undeclaredx> It's just annoying to navigate to 4 different places for the same context
[11:21] <stephanb> undeclaredx: well you dont even need a script for that, i think it will just work out fine and be the most convenient way to do it
[11:22] <undeclaredx> yeah I guess
[11:22] <undeclaredx> for directory in *: ln -s /basedir/$directory /otherdir/$directory
[11:22] <undeclaredx> I think that's right
[11:22] <undeclaredx> just add quotes
[11:23] <undeclaredx> one line too lmao
[11:23] <stephanb> ;)
[11:23] <undeclaredx> I need to learn more about bash shell scripting
[11:23] <undeclaredx> I just started on sed though, what a keeper ;p
[11:23] <stephanb> hehe, never looked at sed
[11:24] <undeclaredx> lets say you have a dir of ten things with spaces and you wanna convert to dots
[11:24] <undeclaredx> it's as easy as like
[11:24] <undeclaredx> $new_file=$(echo $file | sed -e 's/ /./g')
[11:24] <undeclaredx> with the above loop
[11:24] <ikonia> undeclaredx: this isn't a scripting chat channel
[11:24] <undeclaredx> it's easy
[11:24] <undeclaredx> yeah
[11:24] <ikonia> undeclaredx: are you trying to actually help someone resolve a problem ?
[11:24] <undeclaredx> ikonia: well, it is unix related though
[11:24] <undeclaredx> ikonia: no, I'm just saying I need to learn more
[11:24] <ikonia> undeclaredx: this isn't a unix related chat channel, its ubuntu support
[11:25] <stephanb> undeclaredx: i see, the same syntax as vim
[11:25] <stephanb> for replacing stuff
[11:25] <ikonia> undeclaredx: ok, please try to keep to ubuntu support, rather than general chat
[11:25] <Chipzzz> ikonia: i had it listed as a 'slave' with the ip listed as the master and a cached db.sirjeffx.com as its entry... let me fix that...
[11:25] <undeclaredx> ikonia: he was helping me with ubuntu stuff, then we got into the convo of how I'm doing it, and it turned into shell scripting, follow me? It was on topic.
[11:25] <ikonia> undeclaredx: yes, it's no longer on topic, which is why I'm asking you to stop
[11:25] <undeclaredx> yup ;)
[11:25] <undeclaredx> well that was the end of it anyway
[11:26] <Chipzzz> ikonia: (it got lost in all the messing around)
[11:26] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ah, I didn't see it in the file at all
[11:27] <Chipzzz> ikonia: should i use the cached db file for that, or the one in /etc/bind?
[11:27] <ikonia> Chipzzz: you are supposed to create a DB file containing the zone data
[11:28] <ikonia> Chipzzz: if you want it to act as a master, put it in the same locations as your other master server database files and point the zone at it
[11:29] <Chipzzz> ikonia: ok.. it now points to the db.sirjeffx.com in the pastie... give me a minute & i'll restart bind
[11:30] <ikonia> Chipzzz: clear out all the nonsense zone data at the bottom of the file
[11:32] <Chipzzz> ikonia: i remember having done that at one point and the server balked at having more than one master zone...
[11:33] <ikonia> Chipzzz: nah, that's the whole point
[11:33] <Chipzzz> ikonia: k... lemme clean it up some...
[11:33] <ikonia> Chipzzz: 1.) remove all the nonsense zone data from the config file 2.) create a master entry for the zone 3.) create a db file for the zone containing the zone data, 4.) restart bind
[11:35] <computer_> Wow, just trying to make a unity launcher for Eclipse. Why has this been made sooooooooo difficult!
[11:36] <fAz4> is it means file descriptor 63 ?! /dev/fd/63
[11:37] <rumco9> hi
[11:37] <hithere> hi
[11:38] <takpar> Hi
[11:38] <lohness> so, skype cant start because libXss.so not found, so reinstall ia32-libs but that failes with /ia32-libs.postinst: 40: /usr/lib32/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders: not found
[11:38] <oCean> fAz4: there's not much detail in your question. Often file descriptor references the entries in /proc/<pid>/fd
[11:38] <bilegt> how to set screen brightness permanently?
[11:39] <lohness> so I checked in ia32-libs.postinst and it tries to execute /usr/lib32/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders /usr/lib32/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/*.so > /usr/lib32/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache || true # and that one also fails
[11:39] <fAz4> oCean: im just figuring out how  $file <(ps)  is working
[11:39] <lohness> if I try to execute the same line, but prefixed with /lib32/ld-linux.so.2 /usr/lib32/gdk-pixbuf,..... it works... wtf is this shit
[11:39] <ikonia> lohness: tone down the language please.
[11:42] <ranjan> Hi all how to disable normal users adding network interfaces in gnome desktop?
[11:43] <M0nt7> where can  get info on Ubuntu servers?
[11:43] <M0nt7> on irc
[11:43] <takpar>  http://www.irc.loxblog.com/
[11:43] <ikonia> M0nt7: in what respect ?
[11:43] <oCean> takpar: why are you posting that here?
[11:43] <rumco9> the ubuntu is a good program
[11:44] <takpar> oCean negah kon
[11:44] <takpar> very very fun
[11:44] <M0nt7> takpar: I mean irc channel for ubuntu-servers?
[11:44] <ikonia> M0nt7: #ubuntu-server is the official ubuntu server channel
[11:44] <oCean> takpar: don't post such links again, this is a support channel
[11:44] <takpar> oCean why?
[11:45] <takpar> linke download last version ubuntu ?
[11:45] <oCean> takpar: this channel is for Ubuntu support (technical issues) only
[11:45] <takpar> OK oCean
[11:45] <M0nt7> ikonia: thanks
[11:45] <ikonia> takpar: ubuntu.com
[11:45] <Chipzzz> ikonia: k... it looks much tidier now... but when i restart bind it fails... i forget which log contains the error, but it doesn't like 2 masters... here's the config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/859056/
[11:45] <takpar> my user ubuntu system
[11:45] <chown__> whats the difference between compiz and compiz fusion?
[11:46] <M0nt7> takpar: your link is misleading
[11:46] <takpar> OK
[11:46] <takpar> Be Right Back
[11:46] <ikonia> Chipzzz: where does the file named.conf.local  end
[11:47] <pvh_sa> hey there, anyone got experience with Intel 82599EB 10 Gb Ethernet card? I'm trying to use this with a Dell N743D aka Finisar FTLX8571D3BCL SFP+ module, but the ixgbe driver is saying SFP+ module not supported, even though that SFP+ module is mentioned in the driver docs as working. This is with Ubuntu 11.10.
[11:48] <M0nt7> where is the rsync.conf file in ubuntu?
[11:48] <Chipzzz> ikonia: ***** files are deliniated by these headings *****
[11:48] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok - just checking
[11:48] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok look in the syslog and paste me the error for starting bind
[11:48] <ikonia> M0nt7: you create it and you tell rsync where it is with rysnc -f
[11:49] <Belserusk> Hey guys. I want to sync 2 Ubuntu based distros. Are these all the packages I need? sudo apt-get install grsync openssh-client openssh-server rsync ssh
[11:49] <ikonia> Belserusk: what are the distros ?
[11:49] <M0nt7> ikonia: where should I create it?
[11:49] <ikonia> M0nt7: where you want
[11:50] <Chipzzz> ikonia: here's the relevant line: Feb 27 03:43:13 Server named[2190]: /etc/bind/named.conf.local:11: zone 'sirjeffx.com': missing 'masters' entry
[11:50] <M0nt7> ikonia: can you give a guide that shows a sample rsync config?
[11:50] <metabaron_> Belserusk: Seems to be correct.
[11:50] <ikonia> M0nt7: sorry no
[11:51] <Belserusk> metabaron_, Thank you. ^_~
[11:51] <M0nt7> ikonia: How should one set up apache and tomcat to work on the same machine?
[11:52] <M0nt7> anyone?
[11:52] <ikonia> M0nt7: look at https://help.ubuntu.com there is a server guide that explains how to setup apache
[11:52] <ikonia> Chipzzz: that looks an acceptable file
[11:53] <ikonia> Chipzzz: remove the transfer lines and restartt, see what it says
[11:53] <T_H_X> M0nt7: man rsyncd.conf
[11:54] <T_H_X> examples in there
[11:54] <Bhavesh> I am running a distribution upgrade for Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 2, what will it upgrade to? te current daily release?
[11:54] <Bhavesh> or revert back to 11.10?
[11:54] <M0nt7> thanks ikonia T_H_X
[11:54] <stephanb> Bhavesh: the current daily release
[11:54] <Chipzzz> ikonia: that's why i assumed bind just wouldn't allow multiple masters... even named-checkzone and name-checkconf agreed that the files were good :)... anyway... i'll take out those lines & see what happens
[11:55] <stephanb> Bhavesh: except you change your "/etc/apt/sources.list" back to 11.10 after upgrdaing
[11:55] <ikonia> Chipzzz: how can it not allow multiple masters.....
[11:55] <stephanb> Bhavesh: on a productive system i would recommend neither
[11:55] <Bhavesh> stephanb: ok, and would it be right to include 11.10 sources to get chromium and other stuff still unavailable?
[11:55] <ikonia> Chipzzz: that would mean a DNS server could only host one domain
[11:55] <stephanb> Bhavesh: are you running 11.10 currently?
[11:55] <Bhavesh> nope
[11:56] <opalepatrick>  Anyone noticed a problem with mysql workbench dropping the connection in ubuntu 11.10. Entails going out and coming back in - irritating as it appears to be short live time
[11:56] <Belserusk> ikonia, Ubuntu 10.04 ~ Xubuntu 11.10
[11:56] <stephanb> Bhavesh: you could try it, but it's likely to break your system
[11:56] <opalepatrick> Just started to use it and moved the keep live preference to 30 mins but being ignored
[11:56] <Bhavesh> break it?
[11:56] <ikonia> Belserusk: so they should both be compatible with each other, no concerns there
[11:57] <Chipzzz> ikonia: it has lots of implications, but i couldn't figure it all out... that's why i'm here... lol... thank you for taking the time with me for this :-)
[11:57] <Belserusk> ikonia, I already do the sync but want to know the min amount of packages to sync Ubuntu 10.04 to a 3rd computer running LinuxMint 9 KDE
[11:57] <Belserusk> ikonia, cheers.
[11:57] <ikonia> Belserusk: I'd advise you not to sync mint
[11:57] <Belserusk> ikonia, are those the requisite packages? No more no less?
[11:57] <Belserusk> ikonia, Why not mint/
[11:57] <Belserusk> ?
[11:57] <ikonia> Belserusk: its a different distro
[11:57] <stephanb> Bhavesh: yeah, using different repos for different releases isn't a good ide
[11:58] <Bhavesh> stephanb: ok
[11:58] <Belserusk> ikonia, stephanb I must clarify this. I am only syncing personal files.
[11:58] <Bhavesh> ty
[11:58] <stephanb> Bhavesh: you could try it, but prepare for having lots of work to do after this
[11:58] <stephanb> Belserusk: sorry, i meant Bhavesh
[11:59] <Belserusk> stephanb, np
[11:59] <Chipzzz> ikonia: it failed with the same log entry and this time the console told me: rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused
[11:59] <ikonia> ahhhh
[11:59] <ikonia> Chipzzz: now we are getting somewhere
[11:59] <ikonia> Chipzzz: you need to define the interfaces named is running on too
[12:00] <Belserusk> ikonia, are those the requisite packages? No more no less?                sudo apt-get install grsync openssh-client openssh-server rsync ssh
[12:00] <ikonia> Belserusk: well it depends how you are synging
[12:00] <Belserusk> ikonia, via Grsync
[12:00] <ikonia> Belserusk: for example grsync is a gui, that will require X11 and a desktop and GTKs, so it will pull in a lot of other packages
[12:01] <Belserusk> ikonia, I see. So if I install Grsync - it will automatically install all other required apps>?
[12:01] <ikonia> yes
[12:01] <ikonia> Belserusk: why are you asking, you said you are already doing this and it's working
[12:02] <Belserusk> ikonia, Because I want to sync a 3rd laptop and only want to install the min amount of software on it.
[12:02] <ikonia> Belserusk: yes and as I've said I adviswe you not to do that
[12:02] <Mayazcherquoi> What the hell..? gnome-shell is not selectable from either lightdm or gdm
[12:02] <darrenlooby> When downloading mysql - where should I install it if I'm compiling it myself
[12:03] <ikonia> Belserusk: look at what the 3rd laptop is running a.) mint a different distro with different packages b.) KDE, so it won't be running any of the gnome/gtk stuff that Grsync depends on
[12:03] <stephanb> darrenlooby: a good place would be /opt
[12:03] <ikonia> darrenlooby: why are you compiling it yourself ?
[12:03] <ikonia> darrenlooby: what is wrong with the version provided by ubuntu ?
[12:04] <darrenlooby> ikonia, I have no idea... where I'm looking for tuts on installing mysql and making it secure - it talks about compiling it with certain options
[12:04] <Belserusk> ikonia, ok. Thanks. &_&
[12:04] <Chipzzz> ikonia: bind installs "named.conf.default-zones" by default, with entries for ".", "localhost", "127.in-addr.arpa", ... etc... an include in named.conf reads them
[12:04] <Belserusk> ikonia, ^_^
[12:04] <ikonia> darrenlooby: ok - so I very strongly advise you not to compile it yourself for no reason
[12:05] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok, that sort of makes sense, sounds like ubuntu is just layout it out a bit odd
[12:05] <stephanb> ikonia, darrenlooby: and certainly not if you don't know what you are doing
[12:05] <darrenlooby> ikonia, so, how what do I do if I want to do things like "--with-mysqld-user=mysql"
[12:06] <ikonia> darrenlooby: what ?
[12:06] <ikonia> what exactly are you trying to do ?
[12:06] <Chipzzz> ikonia: this is the first bind9 install for me, so i'm not very aware of the differences between distros yet...
[12:06] <darrenlooby> I'm trying to run mysql under a none root user
[12:06] <ikonia> darrenlooby: it already does do that
[12:06] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ubuntu appears to lay it out a bit different to the default layout and other distros
[12:06] <ikonia> darrenlooby: that's why it runs the mysqld-safe script
[12:06] <hcuongvn> When i use command "sudo apt-get install", then i type some first letters of the software packet and press TAB, it'll show me a list of software packets. But now, i can't use this way :( Help me!
[12:06] <darrenlooby> ikonia, oh, ok... n00b clearly
[12:07] <Anomie21> Is there a way to get folders to display size like files do?
[12:07] <Chipzzz> ikonia: it's all good...
[12:07] <ikonia> darrenlooby: if you don't know/want to do something, just ask rather than rushing in with exteme solutions
[12:07] <ikonia> darrenlooby: you would have compiled and made a mess of your system to make ubuntu do something....it's already doing
[12:08] <darrenlooby> ikonia, yea, good advice. Thank you :D
[12:08] <TopGear> Man... Having a Sandy Bridge laptop with Ubuntu isn't a that good combination, sadly enough.
[12:08] <stephanb> Anomie21: do you use nautilus? or do you want to do that on a commandline?
[12:09] <Chipzzz> ikonia: there's also a security feature involving a key that you have to generate before the server will talk to anything on the host... that may not be standard among distros since you haven't asked about it, so i thought i'd mention it...
[12:09] <airtonix> TopGear: oh ok, i guess my laptop of godly awesome is in contradiction then
[12:10] <Anomie21> stephanb: Yeah on nautilus
[12:10] <Chipzzz> ikonia: rndc has a command to generates the necessary keys & files, if memory serves
[12:10] <TopGear> airtronix: Than I am jelous. My battery only runs for less than 1 1/2 hour.
[12:10] <hcuongvn> When i use command "sudo apt-get install", then i type some first letters of the software packet and press TAB, it'll show me a list of software packets. But now, i can't use this way :( Help me!
[12:11] <stephanb> Anomie21: this currently is not possible, the only way to get the folders size is via "propertys"
[12:13] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys
[12:13] <Mayazcherquoi> gnome-shell isn't visible from the lightdm|gdm window manager selector thingy. What do I do? :-/
[12:14] <Bhavesh> Mayazcherquoi: Did you install it from ubuntu software centre?
[12:14] <Mayazcherquoi> Bhavesh: No
[12:14] <Bhavesh> Mayazcherquoi: then do so.
[12:14] <Mayazcherquoi> Bhavesh: 3.2 was working, but then I upgraded to 3.3
[12:15] <Mayazcherquoi> Now all that's coming up is "GNOME classic" :-/
[12:15] <stephanb> Mayazcherquoi: 3.3 is a version still in developement, you should't use it if you don't know that to do, if this turns out to be an error, file a bug at the gnome bugzilla
[12:15] <MalekQist> how i hack my phone ?
[12:16] <MalekQist> Anybody can help me ?
[12:16] <Chipzzz> ikonia: so anyway... do you have any suggestions about how i can approach this?
[12:16] <stephanb> MalekQist: 1. get an axe 2. hit your phone with it 3. your phone is now hacked
[12:16] <Bhavesh> its axed
[12:17] <MalekQist> where i can get it ?
[12:17] <coraxx> HELP! ...my rabbitvcs in nautilus has stopped working (I'm using Ubuntu 11.04) ...does anybody know why ? ...and how to fix ?
[12:17] <Gentoo64> MalekQist, why are you acting stupid
[12:17] <MalekQist> I really dnt know you idiot
[12:17] <oCean> MalekQist: stop the name calling
[12:18] <stephanb> MalekQist: you can get an axe from your local hardware store, they can provide you with further informations
[12:18] <oCean> MalekQist: also, this channel is for ubuntu support only
[12:18] <oCean> stephanb: stop that
[12:18] <stephanb> oCean: well, seems like it worked though
[12:19] <oCean> stephanb: if you're going to reply, make sure it's helpful. If someone asks offtopic questions, then explain that to them
[12:19] <Mayazcherquoi> Bhavesh: Okay, I installed it via the software centre (it said it wasn't installed, yet the package was..), however to no avail :(
[12:19] <stephanb> oCean: well normally i do, but this most certainly was trolling
[12:20] <stephanb> Mayazcherquoi: can you start gnome-shell manually from a shell?
[12:20] <oCean> stephanb: in that case, don't give it any comment at all
[12:20] <Mayazcherquoi> stephanb: Yes.
[12:20] <Somelauw> Okay, I updated to ubuntu 11.4 and now wmii doesn't work anymore.
[12:21] <stephanb> Somelauw: can you further explain what doesn't work anymore?
[12:21] <Mayazcherquoi> Omg, gnome-shell 3.3.x is heaps faster than 3.2 :p
[12:21] <stephanb> Mayazcherquoi: from where did you install gnome 3.3?
[12:21] <Somelauw> stephanb: Both alt+randomkey and mod4+randomkey don't respond to any command.
[12:22] <Mayazcherquoi> stephanb: First via package, and then via Software Centre.
[12:22] <Mayazcherquoi> Still doesn't show in lightdm or gdm though when logging in :-/
[12:25] <Mayazcherquoi> :(
[12:25] <Somelauw> I tried putting both MODEKEY=mod1 and MODKEY=mod4 in my config file, although these keys are automatically set when starting the wm.
[12:25] <Mayazcherquoi> I can't select my desktop either and none of the icons are visible :(
[12:26] <stephanb> Mayazcherquoi: well i guess thats the problem with developement versions
[12:26] <sentenza> http://xdcc.it/network/DarkSin/channel/lord_empire/bot/LD%7CEMP%7CDvDRiP%7CTRL%7C02.html
[12:26] <Mayazcherquoi> stephanb: You'd think it'd be visible in lightdm...
[12:26] <Mayazcherquoi> and/or gdm
[12:27] <stephanb> Mayazcherquoi: i would recommend to go back to 3.2, because as the gnome team says themselves: "GNOME 3.3.x is an unstable development series intended for testing and  hacking purposes. GNOME uses odd minor version numbers to indicate  development status"
[12:27] <sentenza> http://lord_empire-ld-emp-dvdrip-trl-02.xdcc.it/
[12:28] <stephanb> looks like someone won't get his warez from here :P
[12:29] <Mayazcherquoi> Okay, well, goodnight.
[12:29] <Mayazcherquoi> Just downgraded. :)
[12:29] <Mayazcherquoi> Sad though :( 3.3 was quite promising. :-/
[12:30] <stephanb> Mayazcherquoi: wait for 3.4... this would be the most sane thing to do
[12:30] <Mayazcherquoi> Ehh :P
[12:30] <Mayazcherquoi> I always involve myself with nightlies though :P
[12:30] <Mayazcherquoi> Anyways, thanks
[12:30] <stephanb> Mayazcherquoi: well, then you have to be prepared fore frequent breakage
[12:30] <Mayazcherquoi> Bye
[12:31] <stephanb> Somelauw: maybe try asking in #wmii i think you would get better support there
[12:32] <Somelauw> I already tried. It is on irc.oftc.net, but they didn't respond.
[12:33] <alelos> if i want to add an extra directory to my path, should i edit the /etc/profile or bashrc?
[12:33] <stephanb> Somelauw: the not so populated channels take some time to respond, but i'm sure you can get in touch with someone there
[12:34] <Bhavesh> how do I find the process with exclusive lock from ubuntu's System Monitor?
[12:34] <stephanb> alelos: if you want it just for your user, put it in bashrc, if you want it for all users, put it in /etc/profile
[12:35] <alelos> stephanb: thanks :)
[12:35] <slipttees> yo gus
[12:35] <slipttees> guys
[12:35] <Urdangarin> hola....
[12:35] <stephanb> alelos: np :)
[12:35] <slipttees> why banshee crash went plug iphone?
[12:36] <stephanb> slipttees: most certainly it's a bug in banshee, can you reproduce it?
[12:36] <Urdangarin> hi mens...
[12:36] <slipttees> stephanb: i can, but plug iphone banshee close
[12:36] <Urdangarin> i have your money... jejeje
[12:37] <slipttees> stephanb: alternativo to sync my musics?
[12:37] <oCean> !cn | Urdangarin
[12:37] <slipttees> alternative**
[12:37] <Urdangarin> shurmanos, venid a mi...
[12:37] <Myrtti> Urdangarin: this is Ubuntu support, do you have a support question?
[12:38] <stephanb> slipttees: gtkpod works for ipod, i'm not shure if it works for an iphone though
[12:38] <slipttees> humm... :(
[12:38] <slipttees> stephanb: why banshee still are on ubuntu
[12:38] <stephanb> slipttees: you have to ask the developers
[12:38] <lessless> hi! is there any gui for mencoder?
[12:39] <slipttees> stephanb: nope... i use last by ppa repo
[12:39] <slipttees> 2.2.
[12:39] <slipttees> 2.2.1
[12:39] <stephanb> lessless: i googled some, try it for yourself ;)
[12:40] <fidel> slipttees: tested clementine?
[12:40] <stephanb> slipttees: maybe thats the problem, have you tried the version wich is shipped with ubuntu?
[12:40] <lessless> stephanb, sure i'm googling now, but need very fast - out of time :)
[12:40] <fidel> worked in the past with my old ipod touch
[12:40] <slipttees> stephanb: version shipped work noting =/
[12:40] <slipttees> fidel: i don't know
[12:41] <lessless> stephanb, the quest is to hardcode subtitles to mp4 video
[12:41] <stephanb> slipttees: in the long run you should get a phone which doesn't lock you in and wont even let you copy music to it without some closed database
[12:41] <stephanb> lessless: never done that...
[12:42] <Reliant> ubuntu is failing to boot. I can get to the command prompt with the recovery option. Where do I go to see a log of where the boot failed the first time?
[12:42] <ikonia> Chipzzz: sorry, was justaway at a meeting
[12:46] <neo_> Hi all
[12:46] <frif> people, deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner are working?
[12:49] <Reliant> looks like I've found the cause of why I'm not getting a boot: I installed the pae kernel, and now X is giving me an error about no nvidia kernel driver
[12:49] <nyancattt> the upgrade feature is useless in ubuntu
[12:50] <nyancattt> it show i need 5 days to download the entire upgrade
[12:50] <jrib> nyancattt: if it's not because of a slow internet connection, then try a local mirror
[12:50] <Chipzzz> ikonia: oh, don't worry about it... really, you've helped a great deal just by confirming that more than one master should be permissible in the conf... i'll mess with it some more rather than take your time with it
[12:50] <omid8bimo> how can i configure l2tp in ubuntu?
[12:50] <Chipzzz> ikonia: ... i'm learning a great deal as i do this anyway :-)
[12:52] <slipttees> stephanb: http://pastebin.com/tjzcd2a0
[12:52] <slipttees> are work... disable other plugins here :D
[12:54] <patrunjel> Hi. How can I find out what's the path to my initrd and kernel? (I wanna get arch next to ubuntu and dual-boot)
[12:55] <omid8bimo> what is the best l2tp client for ubuntu?
[12:55] <quup> hi, what's the command to start a desktop session? gnome-session doesn't seem like it gets everything
[12:56] <omid8bimo> what is the best l2tp client for ubuntu?
[12:56] <pokuy> what is the best l2tp?
[12:59] <ikonia> Chipzzz: shout if you need ehlp
[12:59] <ikonia> help
[13:01] <sx2020> How can I print output fromm a python script to a terminal, but allow me to hit "next" through the data rather than it all printing out and leaving me unable to read the top?
[13:01] <jrib> sx2020: #python
[13:02] <Somelauw> sx2020: python script | more
[13:02] <Somelauw> sx2020: python script | less
[13:02] <sx2020> beautiful, thanks @jsrib, @Somelauw
[13:03] <sx2020> it was surprisingly difficult to come up with the right keywords for that on google
[13:05] <Mayazcherquoi> Okay guys, this is ridiculous. I've reverted back to gnome-shell-3.2, and it still refuses to show in lightdm..
[13:05] <Mayazcherquoi> All I get are two variants of gnome-classic
[13:06] <tejaswidp> I executed the virus "KHATRA.exe" on ubuntu using wine. Surprisingly it worked. Now wheneven I kill the process using its pid , it keeps respawing! What should I do?
[13:06] <Mayazcherquoi> Guys?
[13:07] <Carl_1> Hi, linux newb here. I'm on a linux server and I need to make a new user account which I've done with the useradd and passwd commands, however when I login to the server it says authentication failed
[13:07] <undeclaredx> wrong password? lol
[13:07] <Carl_1> lol
[13:07] <undeclaredx> are you sure it's the right password?
[13:07] <Carl_1> I am
[13:07] <undeclaredx> okay
[13:07] <Carl_1> I've cahgned it to simple things like 123 and test
[13:07] <mosno> Carl_1, perhaps it is using a different auth method/db
[13:07] <Carl_1> and it still does it
[13:07] <undeclaredx> hmm
[13:07] <ikonia> Carl_1: what linux version is it ?
[13:08] <Carl_1> what comamnd do I put in to find linux version?
[13:08] <Carl_1> *command
[13:08] <Mayazcherquoi> :'(
[13:08] <ikonia> Carl_1: uname -a will do
[13:08] <patrunjel> tejaswidp, i'm not a ubuntu guru, so don't trust me, but you should try googleing some info on the virus / how it works / what files it modifies, and either restore the stuff manually, or (if you're lucky), get a script that does it for you
[13:09] <Carl_1> ikonia: doesn't look helpful but... GNU/Linux
[13:09] <Rennegate> tejaswidp use -9 ?
[13:09] <ikonia> Carl_1: it shows more than that, please show the whole line
[13:09] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys, how can I get gnome-shell to show up in lightdm and gdm upon logging in and set it as the default window manager to use? :S
[13:09] <Carl_1> ikonia: Linux test.dh.bytemark.co.uk 2.6.20-16-server #2 SMP Sun Sep 23 18:36:55 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:10] <RedViper> Which Ubuntu is better, more reliable and Less buggy? Ubuntu 10.04 - 10.10 - 11.04 - 11.10 0r the new 12.04? ( http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/timeline/dade00253b5f51e91b13029c3a26ffc0.png ) I want to install my new laptop and I want to know the most prudent. And it must have Long Term Support.
[13:10] <mosno> Mayazcherquoi, it automatically shows up after install. just select it and the dm remembers
[13:10] <jrib> RedViper: 10.04 is the latest LTS release
[13:10] <ikonia> Carl_1: that looks like ubuntu 7.04
[13:10] <ikonia> Carl_1: can you confirm that with the command "lsb_release -a"
[13:10] <Carl_1> ikonia: uname on its own just says "Linux" too
[13:10] <ikonia> Carl_1: does it say "7.04"
[13:10] <tejaswidp> Rennegate I will try that. Thank you
[13:10] <Carl_1> 8.04
[13:10] <ikonia> ooh 8.04
[13:10] <jrib> RedViper: why do you want LTS though?
[13:10] <nothingspecial> rp
[13:10] <tejaswidp> But Why doesn't linux recognize that something is wrong?
[13:11] <tejaswidp> It keeps creating other files
[13:11] <Carl_1> ikonia:  8.04.4 LTS
[13:11] <ikonia> Carl_1: can you show me the"exact" useradd command you  used to create the user
[13:11] <RedViper> jrib: Because I am not to fond of settingup my system every 6 months
[13:11] <Carl_1> ikonia: first I tried "useradd carl" followed by "passwd carl"
[13:11] <tejaswidp> So is it advisable to install an anti virus on ubuntu?
[13:12] <ikonia> Carl_1: ok - stop
[13:12] <patrunjel> Hi. How can I find out what's the path to my initrd and kernel? (I wanna get arch next to ubuntu and dual-boot)
[13:12] <jrib> RedViper: you can upgrade between releases; no need to setup again
[13:12] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey mosno
[13:12] <ikonia> Carl_1: you can't just do that command
[13:12] <Mayazcherquoi> Unfortunately it doesn't work :(
[13:12] <Mayazcherquoi> It's not there.
[13:12] <Carl_1> ikonia: then I tried "sudo useradd -d /home/carl -m carl"
[13:12] <Carl_1> ikonia: what should I do?
[13:12] <ikonia> Carl_1: please run the following command
[13:12] <mosno> Mayazcherquoi, works for me on 11.10 32-bit
[13:12] <ikonia> Carl_1: "sudo userdel -r carl"
[13:12] <Carl_1> ikonia: thanks for this btw, most appreciated
[13:12] <ikonia> Carl_1: that will delete the user, please tell me when you have done that
[13:13] <Carl_1> ikonia: done
[13:13] <RedViper> jrib: I heard Upgrading was not as good as a new install. True?
[13:13] <jrib> RedViper: I'd recommend you install 11.10 and then upgrade to 12.04 when it is released in april
[13:13] <jrib> RedViper: good in what way?
[13:13] <Guest68950> mosno, I am using 11.10 x86, and it was working prior to trying to upgrade to 3.3. But after reverting back to 3.2 for the same problem, it still doesn't show
[13:13] <mosno> 3.3???
[13:13] <ikonia> Carl_1: sudo useradd -g users -s /bin/bash -d /home/carl -m carl
[13:14] <mosno> that's a dev version, dude
[13:14] <RedViper> jrib: As in it's different or more buggy
[13:14] <Guest68950> Well yeah...
[13:14] <jrib> RedViper: no, that's not true at all
[13:14] <RedViper> jrib: Would you mind if I PM you or do you want me to stay here?
[13:15] <Carl_1> ikonia: ok done that
[13:15] <jrib> RedViper: here is better
[13:15] <ikonia> Carl_1: now try to login
[13:15] <Carl_1> ikonia:  shall I set a passwd first?
[13:15] <ikonia> Carl_1: yes, that would be good
[13:15] <Carl_1> :)
[13:16] <RedViper> jrib: I am not a fan of unity, in fact I despise it. I use compiz to customise my desktop and Unity does not support it> your opinion?
[13:17] <crizzy> unity is the only reason why i bothered to try linux again after years of win+mac ;)
[13:17] <jrib> RedViper: you can install whatever window manager/desktop environment you want and select it at the login screen
[13:17] <jrib> !nounity | RedViper
[13:17] <davide87> the last kde for debian?
[13:18] <jrib> RedViper: I'd suggest something like xfce if you want a more traditional gnome-2ish environment
[13:18] <ikonia> davide87: your in ubuntu
[13:18] <davide87> sorry
[13:18] <FedUp1> FOR F**KS SAKE UBUNTU
[13:18] <crizzy> FedUp1: what's the prob
[13:18] <FedUp1> crizzy, I am Mayazcherquoi from before.
[13:18] <FedUp1> gnome-shell isn't showing in lightdm OR gdm
[13:19] <FedUp1> It's not there, completely disappeared.
[13:19] <crizzy> did you install gnome-shell package?
[13:19] <FedUp1> Yes
[13:19] <FedUp1> And yes, I can run it from terminal..
[13:19] <crizzy> well.. try installing that gnome-session package back now after you've removedu nity
[13:19] <fidel> gnome-shell is never listed as Gnome-Shell afaik
[13:19] <fidel> it should be listed as Gnome
[13:19] <fidel> in case that helps ;)
[13:19] <crizzy> yes
[13:19] <Carl_1> ikonia: it still says Access Denied
[13:19] <RedViper> jrib: I am undecided now - 10.04 or 11.10?
[13:19] <FedUp1> crizzy, Okay, sec.
[13:20] <quup> how do I start a gnome/unity session in xephyr on ubuntu 11.10?
[13:20] <crizzy> FedUp1: and like said, it shows up as 'Gnome' in login manager, not "gnome shell"
[13:20] <FedUp1> crizzy, :'(
[13:20] <quup> just want to know what commands are ran right after login really
[13:20] <FedUp1> it works now :'(
[13:20] <jrib> RedViper: why don't you try 11.10 and if it doesn't work out, you can always just install 10.04 over it.  Installs take like 15 minutes at most
[13:20] <ikonia> Carl_1: how are you trying to login ?
[13:20] <FedUp1> Why didnt I think of that? Gah! Too tired I guess :-/
[13:20] <Carl_1> ssh
[13:20] <fidel> quup: you select the DE in your login-manager
[13:20] <FedUp1> Thanks crizzy
[13:20] <fidel> quup: so - i.e. in gdm / lightdm or similar
[13:20] <FedUp1> It's been on me for hours :'(
[13:20] <Carl_1> ikonia: ssh, I have one username already set up (by someone else obviously)
[13:21] <ikonia> Carl_1: can you please do the following command "su - carl"
[13:21] <quup> fidel: yea, but I don't have a monitor, so just want to start the whole session directly in xephyr so I can use it over ssh
[13:21] <Carl_1> ok
[13:21] <ikonia> Carl_1: it will ask you for your password, enter your password
[13:21] <ikonia> Carl_1: does that work ?
[13:21] <quup> fidel: used to be just gnome-session in previous ubuntu versions, but now that doesn't give me a menu
[13:21] <quup> just a background
[13:21] <P1rate> Hello
[13:22] <Carl_1> ikonia:  which password should it be, carls password or the user I'm currently logged in as?
[13:22] <RedViper> jrib: The problem is I need to get my system up and running. I have 10.04 on CD and I need to download 11.10. I see your an Ubuntu fan through and through
[13:22] <ikonia> Carl_1: carls password
[13:22] <Carl_1> ikonia:  Authentication failure
[13:22] <Carl_1> sorry, su: Autentication failure
[13:23] <P1rate> RedViper: so whats the problem?
[13:23] <ikonia> Carl_1: ok - so either a.) you have not set the password correclty b.) you have authentication setup to look at another method.
[13:23] <ikonia> Carl_1: how did you set the password
[13:23] <Carl_1> ikonia: I think it must be the latter
[13:23] <Carl_1> ikonia: I'm in an unfortunate situation here, this has been passed on to me with no documentation
[13:23] <ikonia> Carl_1: how did you set the password
[13:23] <jrib> RedViper: ok install 10.04 then :)  See with 10.04 you'll need to upgrade to 12.04 before april of 2013.  With 11.10, you'll need to upgrade to 12.04 before april 2013 as well
[13:23] <Carl_1> ikonia: passwd carl, followed by a prompt for a password which shows no characters, entered twice
[13:24] <ikonia> Carl_1: "sudo passwd carl"
[13:24] <Carl_1> ikonia: yes
[13:24] <Carl_1> as passwd carl doesn't do it
[13:24] <P1rate> jrib: it is not necessary to update tp 12.04
[13:24] <ikonia> Carl_1: please do "sudo -i"
[13:24] <ikonia> Carl_1: once you have a root shell please do "su - carl"
[13:24] <ikonia> Carl_1: this should give you a root shell
[13:24] <ikonia> Carl_1: what happens
[13:24] <P1rate> from ubuntu i still like and have 10.10
[13:24] <slipttees> libgpod doen't support IOS :(
[13:24] <Carl_1> ikonia: I'm now logged in as root
[13:24] <jrib> P1rate: yes it is :/
[13:25] <jrib> P1rate: or fresh upgrade I guess...
[13:25] <ikonia> Carl_1: now "su - carl"
[13:25] <jrib> s/upgrade/install
[13:25] <Carl_1> ikonia:  bash: arl: command not found
[13:25] <ikonia> Carl_1: su - carl
[13:25] <ikonia> Carl_1: note the spaces
[13:25] <Guest65463> armandeg.blogspot.com
[13:25] <Carl_1> ikonia: sorry
[13:25] <Carl_1> ikonia:  I'm now logged in as carl
[13:25] <ikonia> Guest65463: please don't spam
[13:25] <Chipzzz> ikonia: got it working... thanks, bud... i owe you one (or perhaps many :-) )
[13:25] <ikonia> Carl_1: ok - so we know the account is setup fine
[13:26] <ikonia> ubuntu-bro-alive: please stop changing nicknames
[13:26] <ubuntu-bro-alive> sorry
[13:26] <ikonia> Chipzzz: well done, happy to help
[13:26] <ikonia> Carl_1: so the issue is around authentication and where that is setup to look
[13:26] <RedViper> P1rate: I want to know which Ubuntu has less probelms, firmer operating system and does not get affected by updates - 10.04 or 11.10?
[13:26] <ikonia> RedViper: they are all the same
[13:26] <Carl_1> ikonia: must be, can you name some popular auth methods to look for?
[13:26] <ikonia> RedViper: there isn't one "more/less" stable
[13:27] <ikonia> Carl_1: look in the pam configus
[13:27] <ikonia> configs
[13:27] <Guest65463> its not spam, just my blog, intresting stuffs! I a newby and I know I asked here for Questions and stuff, you guys couldnt answer my questions, so i thought once i get it solved i'll come post it here, Unattended USB network install, apt-mirror and so forth: armandeg.blogspot.com
[13:27] <ikonia> Guest65463: we still don't need to see you post your/advertise your blog, thanks.
[13:29] <RedViper> ikonia: What is the difference between 10.10 and 10.04?
[13:29] <Guest65463> there is no advertisements on it, its for plain knowledge, but seeing that you very clever.... you prob dont need it, but other ppl might
[13:29] <ikonia> RedViper: version upgrades
[13:29] <P1rate> RedViper: six digits : P
[13:29] <ikonia> Guest65463: sorry, I'll try again, "please don't post your blog URL here"
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> RedViper  10.04 is LTS, 10.10 is not
[13:29] <ikonia> RedViper: the core "OS" is still ubuntu,
[13:29] <Carl_1> ikonia: is that in etc?
[13:30] <ikonia> RedViper: why don't you just try some, see what you like
[13:30] <sun_> hi
[13:30] <ikonia> Carl_1: /etc/pam.d I believe on ubuntu
[13:30] <Guest26582> i lose route to dropbox what i can do???
[13:31] <RedViper> ikonia: Well I am thinking of 10.04 - I am just concerned if it will be abit old. It will still do updates until 2013?
[13:31] <ikonia> RedViper: you won't get "new" package versions, just maintainence of the existing packages
[13:31] <kenta> hi
[13:31] <Carl_1> ikonia: is it ok to do PM or should I keep this here?
[13:31] <the_p> hi. i have a problem with the circumflex sign. i can typ it and then a character and get for example 'ô', but i can not write just the circumflex. Can anybody help me with this?
[13:31] <ikonia> Carl_1: don't need to pm me - I'm not going through your pam configs for you
[13:32] <kenta> i will change my nickname
[13:32] <Carl_1> ikonia: I didn't mean that, I just meant as there is a lot of scrolling text here
[13:32] <Carl_1> ikonia: I take it it would be the common-auth file
[13:32] <RedViper> 	
[13:32] <RedViper> ikonia: so is that good or bad? If I go with 10.04 will the current packages update?
[13:33] <ikonia> Carl_1: yes, ssh uses common-auth, and as we know su is also failing
[13:33] <ikonia> RedViper: the curret packages will not update to new versions, no
[13:33] <RedViper> 	
[13:33] <RedViper> ikonia: So what do the updates do?
[13:33] <Carl_1> ikonia:
[13:33] <Carl_1> auth    requisite       pam_unix.so nullok_secure
[13:33] <Carl_1> auth    optional        pam_smbpass.so migrate missingok
[13:33] <ikonia> Carl_1: I just said I'm not going through your pam configs
[13:34] <ikonia> RedViper: maintain the current packages
[13:35] <RedViper> ikonia: Has 10.10 stopped updating packages?
[13:35] <Carl_1> ikonia: ok no prob, thanks for the help anyway
[13:35] <ikonia> RedViper: not yet, but almost
[13:35] <ikonia> RedViper: couple of months left, 18months after release.
[13:35] <Guest26582> after hibernation my system froz what do???
[13:36] <RedViper> 	
[13:36] <RedViper> ikonia: Ok so what do I choose?Out of the two?
[13:36] <ikonia> RedViper: it's up to YOU !!!!
[13:36] <ikonia> RedViper: try them
[13:36] <ikonia> see what YOU like
[13:37] <Iulia> Guest26582 wich version of Ubuntu you have? Happened before, happens after an upgrade/update?
[13:37] <Rewt`> so is there a way for Ubuntu to remember all my window positions?
[13:38] <RedViper> ikonia: Ok last question - Is there anyhting wrong with having an operating without Updates? And does 10.04 come with gnome 2?
[13:39] <ikonia> RedViper: depends if you want the software to conitnue to be maintained, have security and bug fixes etc
[13:39] <ikonia> RedViper: the sooner you forget gnome 2 - the better, it's dead, no-one is using it any more, no-one is developing it/maintaining it any more
[13:40] <nyles> i have a question, if my mobo's setup is this; video & sound card are onboard.. my monitor has built in speakers, can i get a problem with my sound card? like that of hdmi problems?
[13:40] <Rewt`> it doesn't take much to update ubuntu.
[13:40] <RedViper> 	
[13:40] <RedViper> ikonia: Whats the substitute for the gnome docklet?
[13:40] <ikonia> RedViper: no idea,
[13:41] <crizzy> RedViper: https://extensions.gnome.org/
[13:43] <scotty^> Any Unity2D gurus here?
[13:44] <crizzy> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6/applications-menu/ + https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/25/window-list/ ... there's your old gnome2 style for gnome-shell =P
[13:44] <RedViper> 	
[13:44] <RedViper> ikonia: Ok I have decided to go with 10.04. Will the bugs that have appiared in packages be fix. Will the be upgraded to the last upgrade?
[13:44] <ikonia> RedViper: 1.) please stop doing armandeg.blogspot.com
[13:44] <ikonia> oops
[13:44] <ikonia> sorry
[13:44] <ikonia> RedViper: please stop doing 13:44 < RedViper> I
[13:44] <ikonia> before you type a line
[13:45] <ikonia> RedViper: just speak on one line.
[13:45] <ikonia> RedViper: 2.) nothing will be "upgraded"
[13:45] <ikonia> RedViper: 3.) updates will happen as long as the release it not EOL (end of life)
[13:46] <doggywho> hi
[13:46] <RedViper> ikonia: And bugs that appear will be fixed? Sorry about adding 13:44?
[13:47] <ikonia> RedViper: bugs will be fixed if the release is supported and a fix is available
[13:47] <mirko8080> !list
[13:47] <ikonia> mirko8080: do you speak English ?
[13:48] <konza> Hi all, I am a flex developer  and now I am using ubuntu. Is there any way to develop flex application in linux? is there any open source IDE? please help
[13:48] <ikonia> konza: what do you normally develop flex in
[13:49] <RedViper> ikonia:But I mean in 10.04s case? Will the updates fix the bugs
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> RedViper  yes, if a bigfix is available
[13:49] <ikonia> RedViper: if the distro is in support, and there is a fix for the version of the software you are using, it will be fixed
[13:49] <crizzy> there was flex builder for linux but adobe discontinued it
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> bugfix*
[13:49] <nyles> is the help.ubuntu.com site down? or is it just me?
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> it's down
[13:50] <fidel> nyles: down here too
[13:50] <nyles> MonkeyDust, fidel thanks...
[13:50] <konza> crizzy, yeah it was flex builder 3. I need flex 4. Is there any eclipse plugin?
[13:50] <RedViper> 	
[13:51] <crizzy> konza: i mostly only code c so no idea :-)
[13:51] <RedViper> MonkeyDust: 	Thanks for the Help, let me get to it then.
[13:51] <RedViper> ikonia: Thanks for the Help, let me get to it then.
[13:51] <konza> ikonia, Applications using charts
[13:51] <EpicGeekZ> good morning =)
[13:51] <Silverlion> EpicGeekZ: good afternoon
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> otheer timezone here :)
[13:52] <ikonia> konza: sorry, I meant what toold
[13:52] <ikonia> tools
[13:52] <Silverlion> nyles: am able to open the page
[13:52] <konza> ikonia, I use flash builder. But i was using windows at that time
[13:52] <Silverlion> but needs a very long time to load
[13:53] <nyles> Silverlion, here too, its up already i guess..
[13:53] <schueler26> ffff
[13:53] <loplop> i
[13:53] <loplop> http://www.klassenarbeiten.de/klassenarbeiten/klasse9/mathematik/klassenarbeit811_hauptschulabschlussmathematik.htm
[13:53] <nyles> Silverlion, thanks for informing :)
[13:54] <Silverlion> loplop what is this link for?
[13:54] <sattu94> whois satyanash
[13:55] <scotty^> woops :)
[13:57] <hex20dec> Question, when you see a command somewhere, say "useradd -m" and you want to know what the -m does, how would I find out without looking for it online?
[13:57] <Pici> hex20dec: man useradd
[13:57] <compdoc> useradd --help
[13:58] <hex20dec> I know that, but does everyone scroll does until they find the -m parameter?
[13:58] <hex20dec> Or is there a faster option?
[13:58] <Pici> hex20dec: press / to search and type -m
[13:58] <loplop> http://www.klassenarbeiten.de/klassenarbeiten/klasse7/mathematik/klassenarbeit853_prozentrechnen.htm
[13:58] <loplop> http://www.klassenarbeiten.de/klassenarbeiten/klasse7/mathematik/klassenarbeit853_prozentrechnen.htm
[13:58] <hex20dec> Okay, so I guess I'm doing it correct, thank you pici.
[13:58] <nyles> ok, im trying this code; options snd-sb16 isapnp=0 port=0x220 irq=5 dma8=1 dma16=5 mpu_port=0x330.. where i can find that port, mpu-port, dma8 and dma 16? they are not in my bios..
[13:59] <llutz_> hex20dec: man useradd |less -p -m
[13:59] <hex20dec> llutz_, thanks.
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> hex20dec  or use the slash => man uderadd and then /-m to search
[14:00] <Guest26582> who know? wtf chrome don't work over https
[14:01] <Guest26582> only http
[14:03] <hex20dec> To perform a search in man you do /word and to repeat the search?
[14:03] <Pici> hex20dec: press n
[14:04] <hex20dec> Awesome, Pici.
[14:04] <llutz_> hex20dec: "man less" for more options. less is mostly used as pager to read man-pages
[14:04] <riveryk> good morning, my problem is that my ps has 2048 mb of ram always worked and at any moment I get only 763 I have used, the BIOS tells me I have the 2048 but all I get is using 763 mb ... . that can be or I can do???
[14:06] <fidel> riveryk: run memtest
[14:06] <fidel> and check if all ram-dimms are connected properly - sometimes its just about re-connecting them
[14:06] <nyles> how can i see my other partition?
[14:06] <fidel> nyles: dik utility
[14:07] <fidel> *disk*
[14:07]  * sattu94 laughs out loud..
[14:08] <riveryk> fidel, command "run mem"?
[14:08] <compdoc> nyles, gparted is nice
[14:08] <nyles> fidel, where i can find it?
[14:08] <fidel> nyles: in your app menu?
[14:09] <scotty^> Any Unity2D gurus here?
[14:09] <fidel> scotty^: just ask
[14:10] <nyles> compdoc, fidel i don't see gparted here..
[14:10] <riveryk> fidel, command for memtest??
[14:10] <fidel> nyles: disk utility is called: palimpsest in cli
[14:11] <fidel> riveryk: google for memtest
[14:11] <compdoc> nyles, right - its included in the live cd, but you have to install it otherwise. takes a few seconds, and its the best
[14:12] <pitto_> I just want to say to everybody that ubuntu for android is simply outstanding: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pZUCKt0RKc&feature=g-logo&context=G2fdacdbFOAAAAAAACAA
[14:12] <pitto_> see the video and let excitement explode :D
[14:12] <nyles> fidel, what is cli?
[14:12] <pitto_> command line, nyles :)
[14:12] <pitto_> cli = command line
[14:13] <nyles> pitto_, oh sorry lol.. just a noob xD
[14:13] <oCean> fidel: please don't tell others "to google"
[14:13] <fidel> oCean: please help him then instead ;)
[14:13] <pitto_> we're all noobs for something  :)
[14:13] <fidel> i told him the needed keyword as first step
[14:13] <fidel> ;)
[14:14] <hcuongvn> Hey guys, I can't use TAB key to auto complete in command "sudo apt-get install package"
[14:14] <oCean> fidel: yes, but that's not acceptable by channel policy. If you don't know the correct answer, say so, or don't respond to the question
[14:14] <Napalm> hi people, ive searched around and I can find any details on what im trying to do.. i need to upgrade my apache2 and bind packages, but the oneiric package list doesnt contain the latest version i require.. the precise package list does
[14:14] <Napalm> is it possible to install precise packages in oneiric?
[14:14] <Napalm> ubuntu server
[14:14] <fidel> oCean: thanks for the info - gonna mute myself then
[14:15] <scotty^> A couple of users with old graphics hardware (ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]) have lost desktop acceleration after upgrading from Lucid to Oneiric and from Natty to Oneiric.  In at least one case the card is still being used for direct rendering.  I presume they have fallen back to Unity 2D, but why is it so slow?  What has failed?  XRender
[14:15] <Amin0v> hello
[14:15] <scotty^> ?
[14:15] <scotty^> Or EXA/UXA?
[14:15] <Silverlion> Amin0v: Sup?
[14:15] <scotty^> How to tell?
[14:15] <scotty^> See bug #/883421
[14:15] <scotty^> oops
[14:15] <Amin0v> I have created an svn repository in my webserver direretory : /home/user
[14:16] <scotty^> See bug #883421
[14:16] <Amin0v> I want that people check out the project from /home/user/web directory
[14:16] <Amin0v> how can I acheive ?
[14:18] <scotty^> Any Unity2D gurus here?  Need help.
[14:18] <scotty^> A couple of users with old graphics hardware (ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]) have lost desktop acceleration after upgrading from Lucid to Oneiric and from Natty to Oneiric.  In at least one case the card is still being used for direct rendering.  I presume they have fallen back to Unity 2D, but why is it so slow?  What has failed?  XRender?
[14:18] <scotty^> Or EXA/UXA?
[14:18] <oCean> scotty^: no need to repeat so soon
[14:18] <scotty^> How to tell?
[14:18] <antismap> hello, what is the command to access unity's systemsettings from the console ?
[14:18] <scotty^> See bug #883421
[14:18] <scotty^> ocean: Sorry
[14:20] <scotty^> It makes me wonder....
[14:20] <_Marcus> Hi
[14:22] <scotty^> Anyone?  Bueller?
[14:24] <chown_> what is the compiz fusion?
[14:25] <Amin0v> the answe is svn import
[14:25] <Amin0v>  /s/answe/answer
[14:26] <Gitzo> is compiz running in services when you install ubuntu 11.10?
[14:27] <braiam> Gitzo, no
[14:29] <chown_> someone told me there was more animations on compiz
[14:29] <chown_> where can i find if its actually true
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> more animations to disable, you mean?
[14:30] <chown_> to choose
[14:30] <satyanash> Hi, what is the default install location for applications I install through apt ?
[14:30] <chown_> by animations i mean effects
[14:30] <ubuntu-guy-died> Dunno what the hell is goin' on the 11.10 sucks
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> satyanash  /urs/bin
[14:30] <_Marcus> usr*
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> idd :)
[14:31] <satyanash> MonkeyDust, I need the Data directory.. not the binary location.
[14:31] <who_am_i_68> hi
[14:31] <_Marcus> satyanash: Like where the application stores it's configuration files?
[14:31] <satyanash> MonkeyDust, I want to unzip a zip file to it's data directory so as to patch it.
[14:32] <ubuntu-guy-died> hi who_am_i_68 !!!
[14:32] <_Marcus> Hello who_am_i_68.
[14:32] <satyanash> I am upgrading openarena to 0.8.8
[14:32] <Pici> satyanash: There is not one location where packages install their files to.  /etc/ is often used for system-wide configuration files, but thats not always the case for every package.
[14:32] <satyanash> I need to unzip the incremental patch into its data directory..
[14:33] <ubuntu-guy-died> omg, http://www.linux-magazine.com/content/view/full/51293
[14:33] <Pici> satyanash: dpkg -L packagename  will show you where it installed its files to.
[14:34] <_Marcus> satyanash: The site says that the folder for it is "~/.openarena/"
[14:34] <Pici> ubuntu-guy-died: This channel is for support, not FUD or rumors.
[14:34] <who_am_i_68> I am using UBuntu 11.10. Adobe flash use CPU like crazy. But the desktop is very very cool. I want to install from additional drivers my ATI's driver. But there is 2 same drivers on the list. Which one should I install ? (the difference of two drivers is just this string : "post-release updates" )
[14:34] <oCean> ubuntu-guy-died: why are you posting that link here?
[14:34] <ubuntu-guy-died> OK i am sorry
[14:34] <ubuntu-guy-died> guys
[14:34] <_Marcus> who_am_i_68: Which one looks newer? I guess install the one that is the newest, but not Beta.
[14:35] <oCean> ubuntu-guy-died: if you want a conversation/chat, use #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:35] <satyanash> _Marcus, oh, right! Haha.. It was in my home all along.. :)
[14:35] <ubuntu-guy-died> oCean, Actually i am talking about Ubuntu ....
[14:35] <who_am_i_68> _Marcus looks newest? how to understand this? both of them are same (details, name...)
[14:35] <oCean> ubuntu-guy-died: of course, but this channel is for technical support issues. You are very welcome to continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:35] <_Marcus> who_am_i_68: Anything different between the two?
[14:36] <who_am_i_68> _Marcus just the name of one has also this string _Marcus
[14:36] <_Marcus> who_am_i_68: Besides being on seperate lines
[14:36] <_Marcus> who_am_i_68: What string does it have?
[14:36] <who_am_i_68> _Marcus just the name of one has also this string "post-release updates"
[14:37] <_Marcus> who_am_i_68: I think you should get the one that says "post-release updates".
[14:37] <who_am_i_68> _Marcus ok. also can you tell me what that string means?
[14:38] <_Marcus> who_am_i_68: It means it's an update that is released after the product was released(the product in this case is the driver). In other words, it's a patch for the driver.
[14:39] <who_am_i_68> _Marcus ok. and Adoıbe flash will use CPU like crazy after the installation of driver?
[14:41] <_Marcus> who_am_i_68: If ATI put something that messes with Adobe Flash in their drivers, then yes, the CPU usage may increase, but that is very unlikely.
[14:42] <who_am_i_68> _Marcus very bad. flash makes me crazy even I use adblock extension... Anyway Thank you for your interest! :)
[14:43] <DrDamnit> My 10.04.04 LTS server keeps forgetting its static IP address and grabbing one from DHCP. How do I prevent this?
[14:46] <hex20dec> How would you recommend to learn the Linux file system directories, where everything is / needs to be, etc?
[14:46] <bazhang> !fhs | hex20dec
[14:47] <hex20dec> Thank you both, bazhang and ubottu.
[14:52] <JulinBM> Ademan: hi, do you help me?
[14:53] <bazhang> JulinBM, whats the issue, please tell the channel
[14:54] <JulinBM> is just a information about ubuntu
[14:54] <bazhang> !manual | JulinBM perhaps this will help, have a read
[14:55] <JulinBM> bazhang: is to use ubuntu to open all types of files used in windows?
[14:55] <bazhang> JulinBM, please give an example
[14:56] <lol123> Whats up
[14:56] <JulinBM> bazhang: well... M. Office documents
[14:56] <bazhang> JulinBM, libreoffice can do that
[14:56] <bazhang> JulinBM, you should have a look at the ubuntu manual
[14:57] <JulinBM> bazhang: I want to uninstall windows and only use ubuntu
[14:57] <as001> hi I activated wrong option in compiz and now when I log in I have no panels and top of windows are missing... How can i fix it
[14:57] <JulinBM> bazhang: thanks
[14:57] <lol123> Ubuntu is cool
[14:57] <as001> previos I had everything on left side and did not have top and bottom panels. I would like to switch back to it.
[14:57] <JulinBM> bazhang: I think I only use ubuntu without problems right?
[14:57] <freegis> join #geo-spatial.org
[14:58] <bazhang> as001, using the compizconfig-settings-manager? sounds like a window decoration issue
[14:58] <freegis> sorry
[14:58] <freegis> wrong commnad
[14:59] <as001> I tried that but can not force it to activate on startup
[14:59] <bazhang> as001, is this 11.10? unity?
[14:59] <as001> I agreed to remove Desktop Wall and that was the problem
[15:00] <as001> I am not sure this is kernel 2.6.38-13-generic-pae
[15:00] <bazhang> as001, so go into ccsm and re-enable it?
[15:00] <bazhang> as001, thats 11.04
[15:00] <as001> ccsm ? what is that ?
[15:00] <as001> yes bazhang it is 11.04
[15:00] <bazhang> ccsm is compizconfig-settings-manager as001
[15:00] <as001> ok i am there
[15:01] <bazhang> as001, did you choose 'classic' from the login window?
[15:01] <JulinBM> ubuntu is very good! no win 7 more! kk
[15:01] <as001> I think yes
[15:01] <mosno> JulinBM, now you have /bin/more
[15:02] <JulinBM> mosno: ok!
[15:02] <bazhang> as001, so choose unity from the login window
[15:03] <as001> I am not sure i will relog
[15:03] <JulinBM> mosno: I'm not advanced user, but I think it is still best
[15:04] <JulinBM> mosno: what you think?
[15:04] <as001> no I choose Ubuntu on login
[15:04] <mosno> JulinBM, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:05] <bazhang> as001, ubuntu classic? no effects? unity? there is not a choice 'ubuntu'
[15:05] <[u]{s}[e]{r}> anyone mind telling me what all these compiling errors mean? http://pastebin.com/ixhEQkU2 is something wrong with my installed libraries? do i need to reconfigure them?
[15:06] <as001> it is not classic
[15:06] <as001> i will check again
[15:07] <felipe_Brz> how is it possible that upon trying to execute this file http://pastie.org/3472316 , I get the following error message: ./install.sh: 22: Syntax error: "(" unexpected ??????
[15:07] <felipe_Brz> i mean that's just an array declaration
[15:07] <as001> yet is is Ubuntu
[15:07] <as001> I have UBuntu-classic etc...
[15:07] <as001> Recovery console etc..
[15:08] <Oer> [u]{s}[e]{r},  what are you trying to build, john-1.7.9-jumbo-5/src password-cracker ?
[15:08] <[u]{s}[e]{r}> Oer, yes. john-1.7.9-jumbo
[15:08] <bazhang> as001, and you want effects? the dock on the left side and no top and bottom bar?
[15:08] <as001> yes
[15:08] <[u]{s}[e]{r}> Oer, nothing malicious in mind, just trying to do an assignment for school
[15:09] <as001> from startup
[15:09] <Oer> [u]{s}[e]{r}, cannot help you with that. join #backtrack or something
[15:09] <as001> how can i check current windiw manager
[15:09] <[u]{s}[e]{r}> backtrack uses slackware though...
[15:09] <Pici> [u]{s}[e]{r}: john is in the repositories, you may have better luck with that.
[15:09] <as001> if it is  metacity or something else
[15:10] <[u]{s}[e]{r}> the john thats in the repositories does not support sha-512
[15:10] <AaronMT> Everyone see the Ubuntu on Android booth at MWC?
[15:10] <Pembroke_Skubbit> I cant for the life of me get this bloody driver to install
[15:12] <as001> I tried to activate rotate cube and it says it conflicts with Desktop wall and I chosed to remove Desktop Wall and Unity (left part) dissapeared...
[15:12] <chown_> as001: i tried the same 2 days ago
[15:14] <Pembroke_Skubbit> I think nvidia's driver quality has gone downhill
[15:14] <Pembroke_Skubbit> i am doing nothing different than usual
[15:14] <as001> and how did you revert back ?
[15:15] <chown_> as001: at the login i think, i selected: the ubuntu2d login
[15:15] <Pembroke_Skubbit> ah there now it took
[15:15] <karsten_>  hey there. does anybody knows why i can install updates via the "Aktualisierungsverwaltung" (I think its Update Manger in English) in Lubuntu 11.10 without typing in my root-password
[15:15] <Myrtti> karsten_: you can set it to install important security updates without
[15:16] <karsten_> Myrtti, where can set it?
[15:16] <karsten_> *I
[15:16] <chown_> btw as001 i found this tweak: myunity to be of good use on teaking the unity
[15:16] <Daekdroom> karsten_, updates require root privileges
[15:16] <karsten_> Daekdroom, thanks, i know. thats why i'm asking
[15:17] <Daekdroom> Ah. I misread it, sorry.
[15:17] <karsten_> ;)
[15:17] <Myrtti> karsten_: settings-button on the bottom has an option
[15:17] <Myrtti> "When there are security updates:"
[15:17] <Daekdroom> karsten_, sudo is able to remember your root password for about some minutes, so try to pay attention whether you used it shortly before or not.
[15:18] <karsten_> Myrtti, the value of the option is... something like.. "Show instantly"
[15:18] <allu2> am i only one who can't move left up corner directly using ctrl+alt+left+up hotkeys while on down right corner, in unity
[15:18] <Myrtti> karsten_: above that?
[15:19] <karsten_> Daekdroom, i think it is able to store the password for 15 minutes. but i hasn typed in since 11:00am, the updates was at 03:00pm
[15:19] <allu2> works well from up left to down right, down left to up right but it doesn't work down right to up left
[15:19] <Gentoo64> karsten_: sudo -k will reset the timer
[15:19] <karsten_> Myrtti, theres an option "When there are securtiy Updates" and the value of this is "Show instantly" (in my german distribution it is "Sofort anzeigen")
[15:20] <karsten_> Myrtti, so does it allow the installation of updates without typing in the root-password?
[15:21] <Myrtti> karsten_: there should be an option "Download and install automatically" - so security updates would be installed automatically
[15:21] <Myrtti> karsten_: it doesn't install normal updates automatically, though.
[15:22] <karsten_> Myrtti, yes, thats why i'm wondering. It asked me for some security updates, after i touched the "Update"-Button it started to install without the password-prompt
[15:22] <Somelauw> I noticed that in ubuntu 11.4, the xserver has moved to the 8th tty and the 7th tty is now used for logging?
[15:26] <makara> i want to mount a folder as a disk. how to do?
[15:27] <simon__> mount -o loop
[15:27] <simon__> makara: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/folder /mount/point/
[15:27] <simon__> bind rather than loop actually
[15:27] <simon__> sorry
[15:28] <makara> thanss. what is -o bind do?
[15:32] <makara> simon__: it says mount point does not exist
[15:33] <simon__> makara: replace /mount/point with the folder you want to mount it at
[15:33] <simon__> makara: for example mount -o bind /etc /mnt/etc
[15:35] <ogzy> i am getting error while i am trying to repack the libaudiere for oneirich as sudo pbuilder build *.dsc the error message says This package is uninstallable Dependency is not satisfiable: libdumb1-dev
[15:35] <ogzy> although i have libdumb1-dev
[15:35] <ogzy> any idea?
[15:39] <Jan\> i'm trying to figure out what this binary file opens with, theres no file ext and opening with text reader shows garbled text... any clues how to figure it out ?
[15:40] <zykotick9> Jan\: in terminal "file foo" replacing foo with the actual filename - might give a clue
[15:40] <celthunder> Jan\: run it in a terminal
[15:43] <Stormshadow> hi all, im trying to implement a simple send-receive utility using the DBUS C api -- im OK sending  a signal and appending a string. I want to improve on that and send an array of strings -- Im calling dbus_message_iter_open_container() then dbus_message_iter_append_basic() twice (2 element string array)...on the receive end dbus_connection_pop_message() is returning NULL
[15:43] <yabai> uptime
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> Stormshadow  is that C programming?
[15:44] <Stormshadow> emm yep
[15:45] <zykotick9> yabai: FYI, uprecords part of the uptimed package is cooler then just "uptime"
[15:46] <simon__> yayabai: 14:43:58 up  19:17,  2 users,  load average: 0.04, 0.15, 0.57
[15:46] <simon__> :P
[15:46] <Gumpo1> Hi, I have a script command that I want to run when the computer boots, how do I do that? Also, with around 30 sec delay so the wireless is up and running
[15:46] <yabai> zykotick9: :-P uptime works ok for me :-)
[15:47] <simon__> Gumpo1: rc.local?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: does it need root access?
[15:47] <zykotick9> yabai: ya, but to you get "%up 99.997 | since Mon Jan 23 14:50:15 2012"?
[15:47] <Gumpo1> lets pretend i really, reeeally dont know anything about linux
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: but you can still read my question, and reply...
[15:47] <simon__> Gumpo1: step 1, install windows :P
[15:47] <_Marcus> How do I run a bash command over FTP?
[15:47] <Gumpo1> i dunno
[15:47] <_Marcus> I've done it before, I just don't remember how
[15:47] <simon__> Gumpo1: whats it doing?
[15:48] <Gumpo1> i cant run windows from a usb stick. at least not well
[15:48] <Gumpo1> it mounts my time capsule
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: when you run the script yourself, do you need to run it with sudo?
[15:48] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: did you see my message yesterday about the sizes of ubuntu mini?
[15:48] <Gumpo1> yes
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: then it need root
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: sorry, no
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: put the command in a script, and run the scrpt backgrounded. It will need a lengthy sleep command to make it wait long enogh
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: what command do you run and I can make you the script if you like
[15:49] <Gumpo1> i want to run this command
[15:49] <Gumpo1> sudo mount.cifs //192.168.1.5/timecapsule/ /media/capsule -o pass=xxxxx
[15:49] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: mini (base only) 872M, with Xorg 975M, with OB 1008M (after apt-get clean 974M), adding vim 1012M (1004M after apt-get clean)
[15:49] <Gumpo1> this mounts my capsule to /media/capsule folder
[15:50] <Gumpo1> how to do that automatically is beyond me. I tried fstab or whatever but it failed since the network is not laoded before it tried to mount it
[15:51] <bastidrazor> Gumpo1: there are some options to tell it to wait to mount until a network connection is valid.
[15:51] <Gumpo1> hm
[15:52] <Gumpo1> how. also, it mounts stuff before login and whatnot. the wireless driver thingy is one of the last ones to load before the computer is fully functional
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: http://pastie.org/3472671
[15:52] <Gumpo1> i really would like for this command to be run after around 30 sec after the computer has started completely
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: nice, 1Gb for an OS aint bad
[15:53] <Gumpo1> ill have a look at it
[15:53] <bastidrazor> Gumpo1: _netdev option
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: is  that without the suggested packages too?
[15:53] <okram> My 11.10 freezes how can I open System Log Viewer GUI in teminal?
[15:54] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: that's all "default" no trickery, so it could certainly be smaller
[15:54] <bastidrazor> Gumpo1: or the script ActionParsnip gave you.. either should work.
[15:54] <bitcoin_miner> anyone here have a good computer?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> okram: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1   does it  drop to a CLI interface which you can log in to?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> bastidrazor: mines a bit hackier, but should work
[15:54] <bitcoin_miner> http://bit.ly/bitcoinmining
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> bitcoin_miner: please don't spam here
[15:55] <bitcoin_miner> if you leave that open you can make some money using distributed computng
[15:55] <bastidrazor> ActionParsnip: should work yes. it should give the delay too. i don't know if fstab can delay like that
[15:55] <bitcoin_miner> computing*
[15:55] <Gumpo1> ugh, lubuntu on sub is really slow :)
[15:55] <_Marcus> bitcoin_miner: And this has to do with Ubuntu, how?
[15:55] <Gumpo1> *usb
[15:56] <bitcoin_miner> _Marcus: idk just cool
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: most GUI distros will be. Puppy has the toram cheatcode, makes things nice :)
[15:56] <Gumpo1> :)
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> bitcoin_miner: as I said, don't spam. I did say....
[15:57] <dez4rk> Hello world! Finicky February! (dez4rk@freenode)
[15:57] <_Marcus> bitcoin_miner: If I was into Bitcoin mining, I wouldn't generate for you. And that's offtopic, you should see #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:57] <ttt> where do I ask for help with coreutils
[15:57] <_Marcus> ttt: What problem are you having?
[15:57] <dez4rk> You were all just in a ubuntuforums.org screenshot, just saying. ;)
[15:57] <_Marcus> dez4rk: I'm famous now!
[15:58] <ttt> I'm getting behavior I don't understand with tail piping to another program.
[15:58] <okram> Yes ctrl+alt+f1 works and then?
[15:58] <Gumpo1> trying to make a photo frame so everything has to be automatic. its difficult to set up. all i really need is that time capsule mount and a photo viewer to begin automatically streaming pictures from the network
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> okram: run:  dmesg | tail -n 20     and read, it should give clues
[15:59] <ttt> I pipe to a program that ends, but  I don't come back to a command prompt.
[15:59] <makara> simon__: it says the mount point does not exist
[15:59] <okram> Ok I got login promt and as I entered info it flashed some error wich was to fast to read and restarted computer
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> okram: sounds like bad ram to me dude, the command should only output some text. There is a memtester in Grub
[16:00] <zykotick9> makara: a "mount point" is just an empty directory YOU choose, BUT it has to exist BEFORE you try the mount command
[16:01] <stpierre> running 11.04. i rebooted this morning, and now emacs will not start (tried with and without X, and even daemon mode) _unless_ I strace it.  "strace emacs" works just dandy.  reinstalled emacs and all related packages.  other programs -- X and non-X start fine.  any suggestions?
[16:01] <Prolac> how can I check which version of specific software is in the repos?
[16:01] <zykotick9> makara: /mnt exists just for the purpose of temporary mounting
[16:01] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: If there was bad RAM, the computer wouldn't start up though
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Prolac: apt-cache policy packagename
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: RAM is randomly accessed, you could avoid the bad section during boot
[16:02] <okum> hi, i have a pretty noobish question.. can you use any windows installer with wine?
[16:02] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: Oh. I'm guessing he doesn't have a RAM check at startup?
[16:02] <Prolac> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[16:02] <_Marcus> okum: Mostly. Some may not work as well as others.
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> okum: yes but weather or not it will work is a different matter. Check appdb for compatibility
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: its in a defaultinstall
[16:02] <_Marcus> okum: http://appdb.winehq.org/ will tell you how well it works(if it's there)
[16:02] <dez4rk> http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/6685/99screenshotat201202271.png - you're all famous!
[16:03] <sipior> stpierre: are you running strace via sudo? also, what error does it give when it fails?
[16:03] <okum> ActionParsnip: i just mean, could i go download any trial of a windows program and it shall work if known to work? :P
[16:03] <ttt> Marcus:  I'm getting behavior I don't understand with tail -f  piping to another program. I pipe to a program that ends, but  I don't come back to a command prompt.
[16:03] <stpierre> sipior: no error (or output) at all.  i have not been running strace under sudo; root can't run emacs, either, though, fwiw.
[16:03] <stpierre> i've been invoking it as '\emacs -nw -Q -q --no-site-file' to avoid loading ... basically anything other than emacs itself.
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> okum: sure, as long as the appdb says its ok then you'll be ok
[16:04] <sipior> stpierre: and it just kicks you back to a prompt?
[16:04] <Gumpo1> thanks ActionParsnip ill do a reboot and see if it works
[16:04] <okum> ActionParsnip: alright, that's all i wanted to know. thanks, and also thanks _Marcus for the link. (:
[16:04] <stpierre> yeah, after a few seconds.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> okum: the appd also has little hints on settings too
[16:04] <simctrtest> exit
[16:04] <stpierre> ooh, looks like this one is my fault somehow.  if i start up a new bash with --norc, emacs starts fine
[16:05]  * stpierre had better start sorting through his environment.  thanks :)
[16:05] <okum> ActoinParsnip: awesome, thanks.
[16:06] <sipior> stpierre: interesting. is strace suid-root on your system?
[16:06] <stpierre> no
[16:06] <okram> ActionPArsnip: It passes mem test!?! Hence I can only run terminal normally then how can I open built in  system log viewer gui?
[16:07] <zortness> so, trying to determine an issue on installation on my eeepc 1005HA that I've had for years with ubuntu... installation either locks up or restarts the machine when I'm trying to select my keyboard
[16:08] <zortness> iirc it's happened since the 9x releases
[16:08] <zteam> Hi all
[16:08] <dez4rk> ./wave
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> zortness: did you MD5 test the iSO you downloaded?
[16:09] <zteam> Is there any easy way to encrypt the whole ubuntu-system in an existing install?
[16:09] <luvsawti> hello everyone !
[16:09] <exco> what file is responsible for the kernel parameters (11.10, grub2)
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> exco: /etc/default/grub
[16:09] <_Marcus> Hello, luvsawti
[16:10] <zortness> ActionParsnip: not this latest one, but I have had the issue before with others that were verified
[16:10] <Gumpo1> awesomeness ActionParsnip, it works. thanks be to ye
[16:10] <_Marcus> zteam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[16:10] <Gumpo1> now have to autostart an image viewer to view pictures :)
[16:10] <luvsawti> can anybody tell me how i can create installer for pendrive ?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: do you see what is happening in the script
[16:11] <_Marcus> luvsawti: What do you mean "pendrive"?
[16:11] <Gumpo1> is there a screensaver that can show pictures from a folder perhaps?
[16:11] <okum> how to update wine? it won't let me through update manager cuz it's untrusted packages or something like that.
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: if you didn't use the script file and had it just running in rc.local it would hang the boot
[16:11] <zortness> ActionParsnip: over the past couple of years, I've probably downloaded 20+ images of ubuntu and attempted to install them via cd and usb stick
[16:11] <Gumpo1> hm
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> luvsawti  you mean unetbootin?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: the script is backgrounded and running as root in the background, but the sleep makes the script wait a while so that it can do its thing later
[16:12] <exco> ActionParsnip, there is vt.handoff=7 in my kernel parameters but I can't find the option in /etc/default/grub
[16:12] <Gumpo1> it works, im happy :) how it works? no idea :p
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: as it is backgrounded, the boot will continue as normal
[16:12] <Gumpo1> i see
[16:12] <luvsawti> no i mean removal media !
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> zortness: what happens when you try to boot?
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> luvsawti  do try unetbootin, then
[16:13] <okram> ActionPArsnip: It passes mem test!?! Hence I can only run terminal normally then how can I open built in  system log viewer gui? It was something like tail -f /var/log/messages but I don't remember exactly?
[16:13] <zortness> ActionParsnip: I can boot off the USB and/or the CD fine, play around for a bit, but install always fails
[16:13] <zteam> _Marcus, thanks I'm looking into it right now
[16:14] <v0lksman> anyone know how to access notes on Ubuntu One from an iphone?
[16:14] <luvsawti> no i want to create a installer which will be autorun  !
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> okram: dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log are the main files to read, you can use less in cLI to read them
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> zortness: what happens when you try to boot, saying it "fails" doesn't give much detail
[16:15] <makara> zykotick9: thanks
[16:15] <as001> how can I check currently running windows manager in Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[16:15] <luvsawti> or i say i want to install ubuntu in pendrive , run it too .
[16:15] <zortness> ActionParsnip: so I can boot into the livecd mode, when I install everything is fine until I get to the keyboard selection screen. At that point the installation either locks up completely (mouse freezes, no keys work, have to hardware reset), or the machine resets on its own.
[16:15] <okram> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[16:16] <danileigh79> zortness: Did you burn the CD?
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> luvsawti  http://opensource-sidh.blogspot.com/2011/06/install-ubuntu-on-external-hard-drive.html
[16:16] <zortness> danileigh79: that happens off of a burned cd or a liveUSB stick created with LiLi
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> as001: ps -ef | egrep 'compiz|metacity|openbox|fluxbox|kwin"     should cover enough bases.
[16:17] <danileigh79> What release are you using (sorry for coming into the convo late)
[16:17] <luvsawti> does it will work !
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> zortness: how does the keyboard connect to the system?
[16:17] <zortness> danileigh79: using the latest now, 11.10, but this has happened since the 9.x releases on this machine
[16:17] <as001> I have compiz-decorator and metacity --replace at the moment
[16:18] <zortness> ActionParsnip: it's an asus eeepc 1005HA, so it's a netbook with, i assume, an internally connected ps/2 connection
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> as001: then it's metacity :)
[16:18] <darkknight> hi
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> zortness: hmm, ok let me search
[16:18] <danileigh79> zortness: full install or side by side?
[16:18] <as001> Yes I started it to gain top of windows which dissapeared when I messed compiz.
[16:18] <zortness> danileigh79: full install
[16:19] <as001> Is there way to restart unity insted of metacity
[16:19] <danileigh79> zortness: how long have you left it alone ater it's frozen?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> zortness: tried the boot option: acpi_osi=Linux
[16:19] <zortness> danileigh79: up to 12 hours once, left it while I was at work for the day
[16:19] <okram> ActionParsnip: Any idea whats -> pci0000:00: ACPI _OSC request failed?
[16:19] <zortness> ActionParsnip: how can I specify that during the livecd boot?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> okram: not sure, ask the web
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | zortness
[16:20] <okram> Cant acces web :D
[16:20] <zortness> ty
[16:20] <makara> zykotick9, simon__: i'm trying to mount a folder to be seen as a hdd by virtualbox. I thought I could trick it but no. Can I mount the folder as a file, not as a folder. VBox accepts files
[16:20] <danileigh79> zortness: okram, wired or wirless?
[16:20] <okram> Only terminal works
[16:20] <danileigh79> zortness: nm, sorry
[16:20] <darkknight> j
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> zortness: possibly this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/569354
[16:20] <danileigh79> okram: wired or wireless?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> okram: how are you chatting now then?
[16:21] <okram> wired
thank u for the link !
[16:21] <okram> chating via terminal
[16:21] <spaceneedle> I wonder if Nvidia-common -which is installed on my laptop even tho I have intel graphics--can be used to snoop around on my laptop? It's stated purpose is to "find" obsolete nvidia drivers.
[16:21] <okram> irssi :D
[16:21] <ZenIRCBot> okram: Use weechat.
[16:21] <zortness> ActionParsnip: ty, reading now
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> okram: you can use links and so forth for web access
[16:23] <bmr> anyone know if stokes hangs out here?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> spaceneedle: its in a default install, you could run:   dpkg -l | grep nvidia    to see the packages with nvidia in the names
[16:23] <as001> when I try to start unity from console my windows lose top and I can not drag windows or do anything...
[16:24] <as001> above suggested command after login gives just /bin/sh -c /usr/bin/compiz-decorator
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> as001: hold ALT and you can drag from any point in the window.ALT+F4 will close it
[16:24] <as001> ok
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> as001: nvidia GPU by any chance?
[16:25] <as001> yes but it worket great until I changed setting in Compiz and now i can not get back
[16:25] <as001> I mean it is not hardware issue
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> as001: try resetting compiz and unity settings, may help
[16:25] <as001> how can i do that
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> as001: sometimes nvidia gpus need extra settings if the decorator vanishes
[16:26] <qazokm> as001, are you using another desktop manager besides unity
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> as001: lots of guides online, here's one I found.http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-reset-unity-to-default-settings-in-ubuntu/
[16:26] <^BRILL^> buongiorno
[16:26] <^BRILL^> a< tutti
[16:26] <as001> at the moment metacity and gnome-panel to be able to do anything
[16:26] <_Marcus> How do I find a file in ubuntu?
[16:27] <_Marcus> And then output the location to my terminal
[16:28] <as001> Yes unity --reset brings back unity
[16:28] <qazokm> as001 rm -f ~/.cache/sessions/
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> as001: sometimes nvidia GPUs need these options in the video card device section: http://pastie.org/3472950
[16:28] <qazokm> disable session saving too
[16:29] <theadmin> _Marcus: Find by what criteria?
[16:29] <bilalakbar2344> hello any girl is here for chating
[16:29] <bilalakbar2344> ?
[16:29] <theadmin> !ot | bilalakbar2344
[16:29] <qazokm> here bilalakbar2344
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> bilalakbar2344: this is support only
[16:29] <ikonia> bilalakbar2344: not in this channel
[16:29] <ikonia> theadmin: it's not even "suitable for #ubuntu-offtopic"
[16:29] <ikonia> bilalakbar2344: this channel is for ubuntu technical support
[16:29] <_Marcus> theadmin: I am creating an apache module, and I want to find "httpd.h".
[16:29] <sipior> "awkward"
[16:29] <theadmin> ikonia: Oh, really? Wow. Well I understand why.
[16:30] <ikonia> theadmin: not really going to use #ubuntu-offtopic to help people find women
[16:30] <bilalakbar2344> sorry
[16:30] <theadmin> _Marcus: Ah. "sudo find / -iname 'httpd.h' -print"
[16:30] <_Marcus> theadmin: Thanks
[16:30] <theadmin> _Marcus: There's also the "locate" command, but it requires to index files first and is generally harder imo
[16:31] <as001> thanks problem solved..
[16:31] <Oer> _Marcus, lot of options > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/find
[16:31] <okum> would somebody be able to help me here, trying to update ubuntu 11.10.. http://oi44.tinypic.com/314xxy1.jpg
[16:32] <kermit> how do i make ubuntu stop changing my cpu speed whenever i go on battery
[16:32] <qazokm> fix your ppa okum,
[16:32] <as001> only thing which I miss in unity is start button from which I can get menus. Is there a way to put that button in unity ?
[16:32] <ikonia> okum: did you not read the instructions that said disable all PPA's before an update
[16:33] <qazokm> as001 install xubuntu /thumbsup
[16:33] <theadmin> _Marcus: If that file is not currently on your system, but can be found in your repositories, use "apt-file httpd.h"
[16:33] <okum> ikonia: no, actually i didn't.. cuz i had to install 10.10 and update to 11.10 3 diff times.........
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> okum: can you give a pastebin of the output of:   sudo apt-get update     close software centre and such first
[16:33] <_Marcus> theadmin: It said the command "apt-file" couldn't be found.
[16:34] <_Marcus> theadmin: I'll just install it
[16:34] <okum> whats a pastebin - ActionParsnip
[16:34] <_Marcus> !paste
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> !paste | okum
[16:34] <charnel> how can I use my ubuntu web server -- Apache -- from another lap top with windows to debug with IE ? :)
[16:34] <^BRILL^> qualche italiano?
[16:34] <theadmin> _Marcus: Need to install that first (sudo apt-get install apt-file)
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> charnel: use ssh via putty
[16:35] <_Marcus> charnel: What, exactly, do you mean?
[16:35] <theadmin> !it | ^BRILL^
[16:35] <charnel> I want to be able to visit the page I am developing in ubuntu from my windows internet explorer not shell
[16:35] <_Marcus> charnel: Ah. Are you on the same network?
[16:35] <charnel> yes
[16:35] <^BRILL^> grazie mille ubottu =)
[16:35] <theadmin> charnel: Yes right, edit it on SSH and then view it in IE
[16:35] <_Marcus> charnel: Then just type in the private IP of it.
[16:36] <_Marcus> charnel: Of the Ubuntu machine that is
[16:36] <okram> Well ok I enabled  ASPM in my bios and now pc works fine! Where to search problem if I Disable it then loging in everything freezes and I only can run terminal. Any Ideas?
[16:36] <charnel> well thats another issue I have no idea on getting ips etc
[16:36] <_Marcus> charnel: type "ifconfig" on Ubuntu
[16:36] <okum> !pastebinit
[16:37] <_Marcus> charnel: Look for "196.*.*.*" where * is a number. Or look for 10.*.*.* if you set it up for that
[16:37] <theadmin> Bah, brb, switching from normal shell to tmux
[16:38] <okum> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/859393/
[16:39] <vivanov> how to view number of threads created by a running process ?
[16:39] <charnel> _Marcus, I
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> okum: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0
[16:39] <charnel> I ve found my ip but typing it in the ie does not seem to be working
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> okum: if you'd added to PPA correctly, you wouldn't have this issue
[16:39] <_Marcus> charnel: Do you have a firewall enabled on the Ubuntu machine?
[16:40] <charnel> _Marcus : found it thank you very much for your help
[16:40] <_Marcus> charnel: Okay. You can connect now?
[16:41] <charnel> yes thank you very much.
[16:41] <okum> ActionParsnip: i'm 2 weeks new to linux >.<
[16:41] <_Marcus> okum: You'll get used to it, Linux can be easy.
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> okum: the guides are still followable....
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> okum: its a single command to add both PPA and key..
[16:42] <okram> actually I had ASPM disabled and I changed it auto, but still I don't understand where to search problem why pc goes crazy if I disable  it
[16:42] <darkknight> what i can do using nmap?
[16:43] <okum> _Marcus: yeah, i already am kinda used to it.. i just run into problems i've never had before as i was a windows user lol. ActionParsnip: ok, i did not know that simple command to add both ppa and key.. thanks for teaching me, i won't need to ask next time.
[16:43] <Somelauw> Can anyone help me uninstall wmii. When doing make uninstall, it says cc: /usr/local/lib/libixp.a: No such file or directory. But I just want to remove it
[16:43] <neersighted> scan servers
[16:43] <P1rate> Somelauw: delete the directory?
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> okum: http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu    states:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa     and you are done. You don't need this as you already have the PPA added
[16:44] <Somelauw> P1rate: That won't uninstall anything
[16:44] <Somelauw> I tried overwriting the install by using apt-get to be able to remove it, but it doesn't work that way.
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> neersighted: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo#Sharing_a_Scanner_Over_a_Network
[16:45] <P1rate> Somelauw: sudo apt-get autoremove?
[16:45] <stephanb> Somelauw: you should compile something in ubuntu in the standard directorys...
[16:45] <Somelauw> But I think I need to uninstall it again to be able to properly install it.
[16:45] <theadmin> P1rate: Please don't "help" if you have no idea what you're talking about.
[16:45] <Somelauw> stephanb: What do you mean.
[16:46] <stephanb> Somelauw: use apt or if you want to compile things, compile them to /opt so you can safely remove them
[16:46] <cancer> Which is best of All kubuntu 11.10 or 10.4 LTS?
[16:46] <theadmin> cancer: The LTS is older but considered more stable.
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> cancer: there is no best
[16:46] <stephanb> cancer: depends on what you want to do with it
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> cancer: i'd go for the latest. The newer kernel and drivers may help support hardware better
[16:47] <Somelauw> stephanb: I just did a sudo make install. So it has picked the directories itself.
[16:47] <stephanb> Somelauw: yeah, thats what you did wrong, now you wont easily be able to uninstall it
[16:47] <theadmin> Somelauw: Read the Makefile for the uninstall target, see what it does, do the same :D
[16:48] <cancer> theadmin: actionparsnip: stephanb: What you all recommend. which will work in all parts of functions
[16:48] <theadmin> cancer: Both will.
[16:48] <stephanb> cancer: depends on what you want to do with it
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> cancer: both
[16:48] <tyteen4a03> Hi, is there documentation for apt that runs in the "Manual Package Selection" in Ubuntu Server install?
[16:48] <oCean> cancer: 1) this channel is not for polls. 2) That said, you can try them and find the one that fits your needs best
[16:48] <meadhikari> please help i keep getting files list file for package 'libboost-thread1.42.0' is missing final newline
[16:48] <meadhikari>  when trying to do apt-get install
[16:48] <cancer> stephanb: any example.
[16:49] <stephanb> theadmin: haha, nice suggestion concerning the makefile...
[16:49] <theadmin> stephanb: Well it looks like it does... something wrong :D
[16:49] <Somelauw> theadmin: the Makefile is hard to read (for unexperienced me). I couldn't find the place where it deletes libixp.a, which I wanted to simply uncomment.
[16:50] <cancer> oCean: linux is new for me. so it's better to get info about versions, so i don't face much errors and go to find updates or upgrades.....
[16:50] <theadmin> Somelauw: It's not hard, it's a bunch of commands. Just search for the line starting with "uninstall" and see the lines after it
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> cancer: install 11.10 and you will be fine
[16:50] <stephanb> Somelauw: if you are inexperienced you should definetely not just compile something when you don't know what you are doing, otherwise you end up with a completely fucked up system some day
[16:50] <oCean> stephanb: control your language here, please
[16:50] <theadmin> stephanb: Watch the language
[16:50] <_Marcus> I want to download the Apache source code to play around with. I will have to compile it and install it like normal. Will this affect websites, or the httpd program?
[16:50] <_Marcus> I don't want to have to remove it.
[16:51] <theadmin> _Marcus: Use PREFIX.
[16:51] <_Marcus> theadmin: ?
[16:51] <cancer> ActionParsnip: Thanks. that's what is called solution. :) Thanks to all.
[16:51] <stephanb> oCean theadmin: what do you propose instead of "fucked up"?
[16:51] <theadmin> _Marcus: You can install compiled software to a fake root, basically.
[16:51] <theadmin> stephanb: messed up
[16:51] <oCean> cancer: that might be, but this channel concentrates on solving technical issues. If you want to talk/discuss ubuntu with others, /join #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[16:51] <stephanb> _Marcus: don't do it if you dont know what you are doing
[16:52] <_Marcus> stephanb: Then how will I learn?
[16:52] <stephanb> _Marcus: first, learn how to compile something to a directory other then the standarddirectory
[16:52] <cancer> oCean: i was here yesterday for more than 4-5 hours & my problem didn't solved. so i was advised to upgrade.... that's why i was asking here.
[16:53] <stephanb> cancer: from where do you upgrade?
[16:53] <oCean> cancer: in that case you have to describe your issue/problem/question more detailed: what is it that you want to do/solve
[16:53] <cancer> stephanb: ubuntu 10.4 i think
[16:54] <stephanb> cancer: well i think there is a big chance for breakage to occur, when you upgrade that system to 11.10
[16:54] <stephanb> cancer: you could try it, but make a backup before
[16:54] <cancer> oCean: many thanks for adivse, i did more than that. :)
[16:54] <sandyeggoboy> good morning ll ...
[16:55] <sandyeggoboy> hi there i need some assistance ... i think my LANG deely-whopper is wrong
[16:55] <stephanb> _Marcus: try reading something regarding the "configure"-script and the prefix option
[16:55] <theadmin> darkknight: Why are you CTCP-ping'ing me?
[16:56] <sipior> sandyeggoboy: appears to be. "deely-whopper" isn't part of en_US :-)
[16:56] <cancer> Stephanb: i have nothing to take backup from ubuntu, coz i'm using xp instead. i was trying to learn ubuntu. but fall in drivers issue. so i planned to upgrade. i'll uninstall ubuntu 10.4.3 then i'll install kubuntu 11.10
[16:56] <sandyeggoboy> haha ... ok, well what i have for evidence is on pastebin
[16:56] <stephanb> cancer: thats a new install, not a upgrade, but i think this is definately wiser then an update
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> cancer: you can only upgrade 10.04 to 10.10 (next release) or 12.04 (LTS to LTS).
[16:57] <cancer> stephanb: now one thing i am not sure of, i even don't know about what is wubi but i have heard of virtual box as well. don't know wt different it brings.
[16:58] <sandyeggoboy> i was trying to run webhttrack and it gets to the first page and then dies. Upon investigation, i noticed a recurring problem with the LANG settings. i thought i had fixed it long ago but need to make sure,
[16:58] <sandyeggoboy> http://pastebin.com/Mk3hYpNf
[16:58] <neersighted> apt-get source apache2-mpm-prefork
[16:58] <neersighted> oops, was reading up
[16:59] <cancer> ActionParsnip: where can i learn basic about linux (kubuntu)
[16:59] <cancer> ?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> cancer: same place you learned windows
[17:00] <oCean> !manual | cancer
[17:00] <stephanb> cancer: there are several free ebooks
[17:00] <cancer> ActionParsnip: i learned window by practicing from the time of Dos, win 3.1 and so on. but stoped on xp. i like command prompt and linux is full of it.
[17:00] <sipior> sandyeggoboy: should be LANG, not LANGN, surely?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> cancer: same way then. You learned by using the OS, that's on of the greatest ways to learn Linux too
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> cancer: you can use CLI in XP, it's called powersell
[17:01] <cancer> ActionParsnip: but it seem bit confusing to me. maybe coz i have not tried it yet.
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> *powershell
[17:02] <theadmin> cancer: "man intro" is a good start for basic commands.
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> cancer: indeed, just use the OS and you'll be ok
[17:02] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: PowerShell was introduced in Vista, no?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: i believe its usable in XP
[17:02] <stephanb> powershell doesn't even come close to what you can do with a unix shell, tough
[17:02] <oem> i came here to ask: would someone tell me how to navigate/browse to the .local folder?
[17:03] <zykotick9> stephanb: +1
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> stephanb: I'd say it was very close. We use it to check SQL databases using redgate
[17:03] <Treat1> I'm having printing issues, help needed.
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> stephanb: it will re-kick off backups if they fail and send a nice report
[17:03] <stephanb> ActionParsnip: in my opinion you cant compare it, it's like comparing a bycycle to a ferrari, just because both have wheels
[17:03] <Jelou> Hello. Is there any way to reset usb ports without restarting the computer?
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Treat1: wassup.
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> stephanb: depends how good you are with powershell dude
[17:04] <stephanb> ActionParsnip: has it something like pipes?
[17:04] <theadmin> ActionParsnip, stephanb: Powershell discussion is... way offtopic :P
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> stephanb: indeed
[17:05] <arshzingh> I was using ssh with the terminal..... a process was running and it suddenly stopped...... its stuck ... ehat do i do now ????
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> stephanb: you can tell powershell to look at the hardware of every PC and  reboot any system with less than 2Gb ram, for example :)
[17:05] <Treat1> After a fresh install I can't install my wireless network printer, it doesn't even show up.
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Treat1: can you ping it's IP?
[17:05] <stephanb> ActionParsnip: the difference is, on unix the shell was first and everything else got build around it, the powershell just got introduced
[17:06] <Treat1> I've put the ip in the box and no printer is found
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> stephanb: doesn't make it lesser
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Treat1: but can you ping it?
[17:06] <Treat1> the printer works on every other computer on the network
[17:06] <oCean> stephanb, ActionParsnip. Please drop the offtopic
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> oCean: done and done
[17:06] <oCean> thanks
[17:06] <Treat1> from .cli?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Treat1: yes
[17:06] <arshzingh> ActionParsnip: Can you help with my ques above?
[17:07] <_Marcus> When I install this Apache from source, will it be a service?
[17:07] <_Marcus> Like, when I type "sudo service apache2"
[17:07] <Treat1> what is the code exactly?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> arshzingh: kill it via it's PID
[17:07] <_Marcus> Will it call the new one?
[17:07] <_Marcus> Even though I didn't put it in the default place
[17:07] <stephanb> _Marcus: yes
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> Treat1: ping ip.of.printer.here -c 4
[17:07] <stephanb> _Marcus: no
[17:07] <stephanb> _Marcus: eheheh
[17:07] <_Marcus> stephanb: Yes, or no?
[17:07] <_hardy_> hi to all . I am having issue with booting Ubuntu over windows
[17:08] <arshzingh> ActionParsnip: i ran the sh command via ssh ..... its not giving any output
[17:08] <_hardy_> I have a live CD . but i dont know how to fix ubuntu using it
[17:08] <stephanb> _Marcus: no, but you can start the initscript in the place you installed it, like "/opt/etc/init.d/apache2 start" if you installed it to "/opt"
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> arshzingh: what was the command you ran?
[17:08] <archo43> oioioi
[17:08] <arshzingh> ActionParsnip : sh somefile.sh
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> arshzingh: ok then run:  ps -ef | grep somefile      what is output>
[17:09] <stephanb> i'm heading off, bye
[17:09] <zykotick9> arshzingh: did you try CTRL+C?
[17:09] <_hardy_> hey guys... need help in urgent basis...
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> _hardy_: details are useful
[17:10] <hex20dec> _hardy_, Ask your question.
[17:10] <_hardy_> ActionParsnip: I am having issue in booting up ubuntu
[17:10] <_hardy_> I hav installed over windows
[17:10] <Treat1> Yes, it worked, I was able to ping the printer
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> _hardy_: ok, what happens when you boot?
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> Treat1: ok what make and model printer?
[17:10] <arshzingh> zykotick9: That will stop  it. ..  should i stop and run the sh comand again
[17:10] <_hardy_> It was worked well yesterday night..  But after installing some flash plugin it stopped working.
[17:10] <Treat1> Canon Pixma MX882
[17:10] <_hardy_> I am just getting a ubuntu loading screen
[17:11] <zykotick9> arshzingh: i thought that's what you wanted to do?  stop it?  is that not what you want?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> _hardy_: what GPU do you use?
[17:11] <_hardy_> and it flickers back to console kind of screen and again back to ubuntu loading scrreen
[17:11] <_hardy_> GPU ? ??
[17:11] <_hardy_> ubuntu11.10
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> _hardy_: video card chip
[17:11] <arshzingh> zykotick9: i want the sh command to be completed
[17:12] <zykotick9> arshzingh: then DON'T CTRL+C it!
[17:12] <_hardy_> windows is working fine.
[17:12] <arshzingh> zykotick9: then what ?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> Treat1: ok under network printers select to find the printer and type the IP in that box
[17:12] <zykotick9> arshzingh: wait until it finishes
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> _hardy_: windows is a completely different OS, with different support. So is of no value
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> _hardy_: what video chip do you use?
[17:13] <Treat1> No printer was found at that address
[17:13] <arshzingh> zykotick9: it has stopped giving any output ....
[17:13] <_hardy_> I am not sure. But its AMD
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> Treat1: try the other options then
[17:13] <_hardy_> not know in details. :(
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> _hardy_: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[17:13] <zykotick9> arshzingh: depends on the script you are using.  either: end it or wait.
[17:13] <_hardy_> ok.. Anything with Live CD ?
[17:14] <Treat1> this has always been a breeze, I don't understand why it's such an issue now
[17:14] <_hardy_> Coz the only thing I have right now is this LiveCD
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> _hardy_: yes you will need that in the live CD to get the desktop more than likely too
[17:14] <arshzingh> zykotic9: sent you a scrnshot
[17:14] <_hardy_> ActionParsnip: Is there anyway to load up my ubuntu from this live CD ?
[17:15] <Treat1> It's always come up automatically.
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> _hardy_: you can chroot and the commands you run will afftect the installed OS. I suggest you reboot and hold SHIFT and you can then add the boot option there
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Treat1: do the other options work?
[17:15] <grandrew> hi all! Is there any decent "find files" tool available for ubuntu? Some time ago it was possible to search for files dated/modified from xx/xx/xx to yy/yy/yy (by date) but I cannot find anything with UI to accomplish this :-\
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> grandrew: find in terminal is pretty sweet, or you can run: sudo updatedb   then use the locate command to find files
[17:16] <_hardy_> ActionParsnip: ok last thing. I am using dual boot. Means I have installed ubuntu using wbui. So any tips or suggestions regarding that ?
[17:16] <Treat1> I don't know what other opitons you are talking about
[17:16] <_hardy_> in account to fix the problem
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> grandrew: find has an age option in it
[17:17] <Treat1> Trying LPD....
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> _hardy_: oh jeez that adds all kinds of extra stuff
[17:17] <tedi> HI all, Im quite new to Ubuntu and Linux in general. Anyone know why I cant use Gnome, when I try start it with gnome shell it just goes black and the screen gets no signal.
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> Treat1: in the add printer dialogue....
[17:17] <theadmin> tedi: No GPU drivers?
[17:17] <_hardy_> :( But i need to do that anyhow today to get all my data..
[17:17] <tedi> I installed them through the additional drivers program
[17:18] <bmr> stokachu, dude
[17:18] <grandrew> ActionParsnip, I just wanted anything with graphical UI :-(
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> grandrew: why?
[17:18] <bmr> stokachu, sorry about the "legal eagles".. :-/
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Treat1: http://blog.kenweiner.com/2011/04/using-canon-pixma-mx882-all-in-one-with.html
[17:18] <grandrew> ActionParsnip, because I thought ubuntu has made a step towards the usability .. at last :(
[17:19] <kirill_> Всем хай
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> grandrew: there are searching apps but I don'y knoe them personally. find is very usable...
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> grandrew: ust because you are  typing stuff doesn't make it not usable...
[17:19] <_hardy_> ActionParsnip: If you have any tutorial or something just then plz give me the link. I will manage my way.
[17:19] <tedi> theadmin: Just checked, got GPU drivers installed and activated.
[17:19] <grandrew> kirill_, тебе наверное надо на #ubuntu-ru
[17:19] <NitroTiger> I had custom xorg.conf  for SyncMaster 204B how I apply it to 11.10 to get screen working normally?
[17:20] <kirill_> А почему
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> grandrew: sudo find/ -type f -mtime +3       willfind all files older than 3 days...
[17:21] <OEMcolincolinco> can someone tell me how to browse to the .local folder? I thought I'd see it under home/myusername but I don't
[17:21] <Treat1> Thanks, I'll work on it for a min and get back to you later.
[17:21] <grandrew> ActionParsnip, yes it does make it less usable since you have to dig in man pages instead of just clicking and doing it
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> OEMcolincolinco: press CTRL+H and you will see the hidden folders
[17:21] <grandrew> kirill_, здесь общаются только на английском
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> grandrew: there are sample commands online, that's where I got that. never used a man page
[17:22] <kirill_> А где можно с девченками попробовать не подскажешь
[17:22] <tedi> No got any other ideas why the screen goes black when running Gnome, drivers are there and working. Not sure where else to check :<
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> !ru| kirill_
[17:22] <kirill_> Спасибо
[17:22] <jazzz22> bonjour
[17:23] <MonkeyDust>        
[17:23] <thingamagic> salut a tous!!(je suis tous nouveau!)
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[17:23] <jazzz22> un petit soucis ici pour transfère une boite mail volumineuse depuis évolution vers mac osx
[17:23] <oCean> !ru | kirill_
[17:23] <jazzz22> quelqu'un peu m'aider?
[17:23] <oCean> jazzz22: /join #ubuntu-fr
[17:24] <thingamagic> hey ubuntu poeple
[17:24] <jazzz22> oh sorry
[17:24] <_Marcus> Hello
[17:24] <jazzz22> i think i was there
[17:24] <alexman731> Heeeeeyyy
[17:25] <thingamagic> i'm looking for a meeting chat is it here?
[17:26] <_Marcus> thingamagic: This is the Ubuntu support channel. I don't see why your meeting would be here.
[17:26] <compdoc> thingamagic, welcoem to the meeting!
[17:26] <oCean> thingamagic: this is ubuntu tech support. If you're looking for the meeting channel, then  /join #ubuntu-meeting
[17:27] <thingamagic> where should i go? <_Marcus>
[17:27] <theadmin> oCean: I don't think that's what they mean by "meeting", most likely they mean "dating" or something... Which is not even on Freenode :D
[17:27] <theadmin> oCean: Maybe there are channels like that, I dunno of course, but
[17:27] <thingamagic> thank you!! :)
[17:28] <_Marcus> thingamagic: I don't know where your meeting is supposed to be. Didn't someone tell you?
[17:28] <sandyeggoboy> i am hvaing a meeting here ....
[17:28] <sandyeggoboy> just me and my guinea pig....
[17:28] <oCean> ok, let's move back on topic please
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> grandrew: if you can learn CLI stuff, it will benefit you later
[17:30] <NitroTiger> can anybody help me to get  SyncMaster 204B working
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> NitroTiger: what video card?
[17:30] <NitroTiger> intel mobile 4
[17:30] <vicivaci> How do I list my internal LAN ip via command line? :P
[17:31] <zykotick9> vicivaci: ifconfig
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> NitroTiger: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:31] <theadmin> vicivaci: ifconfig, among others, will have that info
[17:31] <hv>  /join #hbase
[17:31] <vicivaci> Is it possible I dont have one?
[17:31] <vicivaci> Im using a ECS
[17:31] <kane77> how can I find all files in a given directory, but only list each file once when it has more than 1 hardlink?
[17:31] <theadmin> vicivaci: It's possible if you're not connected or if connection is broken pretty much
[17:31] <NitroTiger> ActionParsnip: oneiric!?!
[17:32] <thingamagic> i've another question : is there a french channel for meeting?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> vicivaci: ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | cut -f2 -d ":" | cut -f1 -d " "
[17:32] <theadmin> thingamagic: No, all the official Ubuntu meetings are held in English.
[17:32] <vicivaci> ActionParsnip: That gives me my "internet" IP
[17:32] <thingamagic> ok thanks!! :)
[17:32] <vicivaci> Upon reading the ifconfig, All i can find is localhost and that "inet" ip
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> vicivaci: yes youo asked for "internal LAN ip"
[17:33] <theadmin> vicivaci: "inet addr" IS what you are looking for
[17:33] <vicivaci> Hmm, I mean 192.x.x.x :P
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> NitroTiger: you may need an xorg.conf file to define the display if it is not being detected.
[17:33] <vicivaci> if there is one using a ECS (im clueless)
[17:33] <vicivaci> hmm ok
[17:34] <theadmin> vicivaci: It's normally in the for m of 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> vicivaci: you mean the WAN IP you would connect to to access the system
[17:34] <vicivaci> Yes, im trying to link my mysql config file to php
[17:34] <vicivaci> And it says in the documentation if i just use localhost
[17:34] <vicivaci> it wont work
[17:34] <vicivaci> setting the bind-adress*
[17:34] <vicivaci> I'm looking for my own internal IP adress to clarify :)
[17:35] <NitroTiger> I have it from old ubuntu.
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> vicivaci: then thats not your internel IP you need is it...
[17:35] <vicivaci> No, probably not, sorry
[17:35] <grandrew> ActionParsnip, yep I've googled-out the solution: 1. create a temp file, touch it to DATE1, 2. create a second tmp file with DATE2, then find -cnewer ./date1 ... ! -cnewer ./date2... yep, THATS user friendly!?!
[17:35] <ankitb> hye folks, i want to known where pkt loss happened in the loss...plz suggest me any tool and method for this...
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> vicivaci: IP=`wget -q -O - http://ip.keithscode.com`; echo $IP      will give your routers WAN IP. .If you ask for the wrong thing youo will get the wrong reply
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> grandrew: i'd say so
[17:36] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Isn't that overkill? What's the point of assigning the output to a variable and echo'ing the variable when you can just run the command you gave in ``'s?
[17:36] <vicivaci> ActionParsnip: That gives me the same IP adress
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> vicivaci  try curl ifconfig.me
[17:38] <vicivaci> Same IP
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: just  what I found online...
[17:39] <vicivaci> I think I mentioned it but I'm using an Elastic cloud server if it bears any relevance
[17:39] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Ah, mk
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: plus could copy and paste the  command into scripts etc and use it later :)
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> vicivaci: i'd contact your provider then
[17:40] <vicivaci> okay thanks all
[17:40] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, how do i upgrade my old version of amule to 2.3.1 on ubuntu lucid lynx 10.04 LTS ??
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | IpSe_DiXiT maybe there is a PPA
[17:40] <grandrew> vicivaci, you may use localhost bind address if you do not plan to expose the service to the internet, in other cases you should choose one of your assigned IP addresses from 'ifconfig'
[17:40] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: That's a neat site, thanks :)
[17:41] <IpSe_DiXiT> ActionParsnip: thank u but i dunno whatcha talking about, would u mind explaining, im a noob and have no idea
[17:41] <f3bruary> whoami
[17:41] <f3bruary> !whoami
[17:41] <f3bruary> @whoami
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> glad you like it theadmin  :)
 where I copy xorg.conf
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> NitroTiger: /etc/X11
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> f3bruary: http://pastie.org/3473493   ;)
[17:43] <dtcrshr> hello everyone, im trying to install ubuntu on the netbooks bought to lend for the users here in the college library
[17:43] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Thanks.
[17:44] <dtcrshr> but all of them, with either ubuntu or mint instalation after some minutes they simply crash, with a bunch of errors, the last being - "panic ocurred, switching back to text console". all are brand new hp mini netbooks, all came with windows 7 working like a charm, no disk / hardware issues
[17:45] <dtcrshr> does ubuntu work on netbooks? is something with the kernel? im installing the latest 11.10 32bits version
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: yes it works fine
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: is the RAM healthy?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:45] <dtcrshr> iv installed via usb stick
[17:46] <dtcrshr> but used the same usb stick to install another desktop pc here thats up and running for 3 days
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: so its an installed OS, or are you getting the issue during install?
[17:46] <dtcrshr> no, the install goes fine, its on the normal use
[17:46] <dtcrshr> with, or without oppened apps
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: what video chip does it use?
[17:47] <dtcrshr> well, didnt tested the ram, but I unboxed all of them last week, they are all new
[17:47] <dtcrshr> the video listed in lspci is - VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: what is the make and model of the netbook?
[17:51] <dtcrshr> its the latest hp mini, no model specified on the box
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: anything on the bottom?
[17:51] <dtcrshr> there are some similar issues on the google
[17:51] <f3bruary> ActionParsnip, thanks
[17:52] <|bird|> hello
[17:52] <minnal> hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu to a Compaq Presario 2100, but at no point the installation finds keyboard, anyone met the similar pproblem?
[17:52] <minnal> I've tried also external ps/2 and usb keyborads
[17:53] <spook_> hola
[17:53] <oliphant> halo
[17:53] <minnal> bios sees all keyborads, but ubuntu installation doesn't :)
[17:53] <spook_> alguien de venezuela por aca
[17:53] <spook_> ?
[17:53] <oliphant> !
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> !es
[17:54] <spook_> clear
[17:54] <spook_> #ubuntu-es
[17:54] <spook_> #ubuntu-es
[17:55] <dabbu> my laptop touchpad support multi touch. but no option to add three finger action?
[17:55] <tsunami_> hello!
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> minnal: try the bootoption: noacpi
[17:56] <minnal> at which point?
[17:56] <minnal> the installation just starts and hangs
[17:56] <minnal> is there a way to change bootoptions on start manually? :)
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> minnal: also try turning OFF USB legacy mode. Source: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1416614
[17:57] <tsunami_>  strange thing... a cannot see what I have on another partition (a 60gig extf4) but if I ask qBittorrent to open destination folder (that Im using for downloads on this other partition) it opens the directory but I cant see anything else but that directory and I can only see the directories, not the files... any suggestion? strange behavior ubuntu has today..
[17:57] <minnal> tried the usb legacy support off
[17:57] <minnal> no change
[17:57] <minnal> thing is same thing also happens even with fedora installation
[17:58] <minnal> but keyboard work in win xp or bios
[17:58] <minnal> very strange issue
[17:58] <tsunami_> do not have permissions to write on the windows partition and on usb external discs which is a pain i opened thunar with root access but it says there is no trash directory when i try to delete something... any suggestions?
[17:58] <dtcrshr> ActionParsnip: hp mini 210
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> minnal: try changing the USB option, as I said.
[17:59] <minnal> ActionParsnip: I have tried that already, as said no change
[17:59] <dtcrshr> found this topic  - http://askubuntu.com/questions/92212/panic-occurred-switching-back-to-text-console
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> minnal: do you have the latest BIOS?
[18:00] <dtcrshr> regarding kernel 3.0 to 3.1 upgrade, with a simple apt-get update / upgrade ill get this kernel or do i have to compile it by hand / choose an older ubuntu version
[18:00] <minnal> that I'll need to check actually
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: get fully updated in text mode, may help
[18:00] <dtcrshr> doing this
[18:00] <minnal> but the usb issue is with grub, don't think installation disk loads grub at start
[18:01] <dtcrshr> ill let you know
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | dtcrshr
[18:01] <minnal> but thanks for help, I'll continue my battle :)
[18:01] <dtcrshr> just for record, iv installed the ubuntu with the normal "fully use disk" option, theres no other OS on the netbooks
[18:03] <tsunami_> any suggestions on this issue?
[18:03] <tsunami_> I have lots of data that i cannot access :(((
[18:04] <krycek> sudo reboot -V
[18:05] <dtcrshr> ActionParsnip: what is the graphic environment on ubuntu + unity? lightdm?
[18:05] <dtcrshr> does something as /etc/init.d/lightdm restart works?
[18:05] <tsunami_> krycek: is that for me?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: default oneiric uses Unity and will use lightdm as the login manager
[18:05] <krycek> tsunami_: sry its 420 over here
[18:05] <exco> how do I find out where grub is installed
[18:05] <Liran> hi guys, is there any way of installing firefox from firefox-10.0.2.tar.bz2 in a way that the system will recognize it as default browser?
[18:06] <exco> what drive/partition?
[18:06] <zykotick9> dtcrshr: "sudo service lightdm restart" is the upstart version of your init.d above.
[18:06] <knope> any one here play minecraft?
[18:06] <dtcrshr> thanks zykotick9 , ill keep this noted
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> tsunami_: is the partition healthy? When you last disconnected the device, did you safely remove it or just yank it out?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | knope
[18:06] <joallard> I have the source. How do I compile a driver with options?
[18:06] <dtcrshr> im still lost in the gnome - lightdm - unity thing
[18:06] <knope> :(
[18:06] <theadmin> exco: This is a bit messy but: for i in /dev/sd* ; do echo $i: $(file -s $i) | grep -i grand ; done
[18:06] <knope> bad script
[18:07] <knope> didn't really apply to my type of question'
[18:07] <tsunami_> ActionParsnip: the partition is on the harddrive where the system is installed
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> knope: it does, directly
[18:07] <mobhero> Hi, No such map passwd.byname. reason can't bind to server which server this domain error in nis ubuntu 10.04
[18:07] <mobhero> can u please help on this..
[18:07] <knope> no i was looking to branch out and socialize
[18:07] <Liran> hi guys, is there any way of installing firefox from firefox-10.0.2.tar.bz2 in a way that the system will recognize it as default browser?
[18:08] <knope> minecraft is a game
[18:08] <knope> people play it from time to time..
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> knope: asking if anybody does something is redundant. If you ask your next question, the people who DO will reply
[18:08] <neersighted> update-alternitives --config www-browser
[18:08] <knope> this is an open ubuntu chat
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> knope: no its support only
[18:08] <theadmin> knope: You know, not everyone here is talking to YOU
[18:08] <knope> o
[18:08] <krycek> oo
[18:08] <CFHowlett> !who
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> knope: it tells you when you joined the channel...
[18:08] <knope> no im speaking with ... im an irc-tard
[18:08] <mobhero> Hi, No such map passwd.byname. reason can't bind to server which server this domain error in nis ubuntu 10.04
[18:08] <neersighted> That much is obvious
[18:08] <theadmin> !patience | mobhero
[18:09] <bLiNdRaGe> what's the next LTS release? 12.04?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> knope: you can free chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:09] <CFHowlett> !precise|blindrage
[18:09] <dtcrshr> knope: so you should try to find a #minecraft channel or something, maybe on the irc gaming servers, as quakenet or rizon. freenode is all about nerdysh techy stuff, 99% dont wanna make new friends
[18:09] <joallard> I have the source. How do I compile a driver with options?
[18:09] <bLiNdRaGe> nice didn't know that trigger
[18:09] <exco> theadmin, not found
[18:09] <bLiNdRaGe> thanks CFHowlett
[18:09] <theadmin> exco: What not found?
[18:09] <neersighted> knope: irc://irc.esper.net/minecraft
[18:09] <exco> theadmin, the disk where grub2 is ...
[18:10] <krycek> is there a terminal minecraft out?
[18:10] <theadmin> krycek: No, and I don't think there will ever be. You can run Minecraft Server without gui though
[18:10] <krycek> theadmin: k
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Liran: there is a ppa if you want
[18:10] <theadmin> exco: Oh... probably it's not installed at all?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Liran: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[18:11] <exco> theadmin, well, the machine boots so it better be ;-) and /dev/sd* are where the disks are
[18:11] <Liran> ActionParsnip, i don't want the ppa because it updated long after the regular release
[18:11] <exco> theadmin,  can't I check some grub2 conf or the like
[18:11] <Liran> ActionParsnip, im on oneiric
[18:11] <exco> also update-initramfs works so that should know where it installs grub2 to
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Liran: I see, you can extract the file in /opt    then symlink the firefox biary in /usr/bin   and it will be runnable
[18:12] <krycek> maybe chmod -x as well ./.
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Liran: I suggest you use an obscure name so other apps don't overwrite the file
[18:12] <steven_reiden> :(
[18:12] <Liran> ActionParsnip, alredy did that. ~/firefox and ive symlinked it to /usr/bin
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Liran: did you uninstall the firefox package too?
[18:13] <Liran> ActionParsnip, it works from terminal when i run: firefox but the system open web pages links with gedit
[18:13] <tsunami_> ActionParnsip: I can see the partitions , but when I open the directories in /media/7738-E691 there is nothing there. never happened before, yesterday was ok
[18:13] <theadmin> exco: Hm, try this: sudo find /dev -name "sd*" -exec file -s '{}' \;
[18:13] <Liran> ActionParsnip, yes ive uninstalled it
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Liran: when the package is updated it will overwrite the link file
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Liran: cool, then you need a firefox.desktop in /usr/share/applications   and it will be runnable from dash etc
[18:14] <Liran> ActionParsnip, i didn't get the last part
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Liran: the apps in dash are the files in /usr/share/applications
[18:15] <exco> theadmin, http://pastebin.com/f3RgHfjJ
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Liran: so you will need to make one to launch your firefox binary
[18:15] <Liran> ActionParsnip, how i do that?
[18:15] <joallard> How do I build a driver with options?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Liran: gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop
[18:16] <theadmin> exco: I don't see anything with grub here, weird.
[18:16] <fairuz_> Hi, on this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror , at this step -> Set up your keyring to correctly verify Release signatures, what if I want to do a mirror host for precise? What should I modify?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Liran: http://paste.ubuntu.com/859517/    that is the default file, you can change it as you want. The Exec= line may need changing and the icon may need downloading
[18:16] <fairuz_> Thanks
[18:16] <theadmin> exco: Sorry, no idea
[18:16] <exco> theadmin, indeed
[18:17] <steven_reiden> quien habla español
[18:17] <theadmin> !es | steven_reiden
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Liran: good job I forgot to install the junky browser, or I wouldn't have had that file:)
[18:18] <Liran> ActionParsnip, 10x man i'll try this!
[18:18] <steven_reiden> ok thank
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Liran: its how you add any command in dash, you may have the icon missing but you can download one and put it in /usr/share/icons
[18:20] <Liran> ActionParsnip, what do you mean by "dash"? sry for being n00b
[18:20] <tsunami_> ActionParsnip: any suggestion to diagnose my problem?
[18:20] <tsunami_>  strange thing... a cannot see what I have on another partition (a 60gig extf4) but if I ask qBittorrent to open destination folder (that Im using for downloads on this other partition) it opens the directory but I cant see anything else but that directory and I can only see the directories, not the files... any suggestion? strange behavior ubuntu has today..
[18:20] <theadmin> Liran: dash is the unity menu thingo
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Liran: when you press the windows key, the dash is loaded
[18:21] <Treat1> now I have a tar.gz file that I don't know what to do with, everything that I read online say's do this or that and nothing is working
[18:22] <theadmin> Treat1: If you don't know what to do with it, leave it alone. Install software from repositories (Ubuntu Software Center provides a way to access those, for instance)
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Treat1: what is the file for?
[18:22] <Click20644> hi
[18:22] <Treat1> printer driver
[18:22] <CFHowlett> Click20644   greetings
[18:22] <theadmin> Treat1: Doh. HP?
[18:22] <Treat1> actually you told me where to get it
[18:23] <Treat1> Canon
[18:23] <Click20644> CFHowlett where I take a bnc ?
[18:23] <Liran> ActionParsnip, ohh lol i use gnome shell
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Treat1: extract it and there will be more achives in, one will be debs, extract that and install the debs
[18:23] <CFHowlett> Click20644   "bnc" ?
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Liran: same difference
[18:23] <Click20644> bouncer
[18:24] <neersighted> znc <3
[18:24] <CFHowlett> Click20644   where do you take a bouncer?  That's unfamiliar ubuntu terminology to me.  Sorry.
[18:24] <Liran> ActionParsnip, really thanks a lot for the help man!
[18:24] <Treat1> typically software center picks it up and does the rest, I'm using Lubuntu and it doesn't have software center
[18:24] <Click20644> oke
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Liran: np, thanks for the gratitude :)
[18:25] <dtcrshr> oh crap, on the middle of the apt-get upgrade it gave me the panic again, on the reboot the wireless stoped working
[18:26] <exco__> theadmin,  sudo grub-probe -t device /boot/grub
[18:26] <exco__> theadmin, that did it and it's in sdd2 ...
[18:26] <theadmin> exco__: Great, GLaD you figured it out :D
[18:27] <tsunami_> hey guys, any idea why I cant see what I have on other partitions? yesterday everything was ok...
[18:27] <Treat1> typically software center picks it up and does the rest, I'm using Lubuntu and it doesn't have software center
[18:27] <michael_> a tutti
[18:27] <michael_> ciao a tutti
[18:27] <CFHowlett> !it|michael
[18:28] <steven_reiden> hello
[18:28] <theadmin> Treat1: You can install it easily: sudo apt-get install software-center
[18:28] <steven_reiden> mens
[18:28] <CFHowlett> steven_reiden   greetings
[18:28] <theadmin> Treat1: I beleive you're looking for the drivers tool though (jockey-gtk)
[18:28] <tedi> Hello, need some help with installing my grafic drivers, anyone know any good tutorial
[18:29] <milen8204> what was the name of "C" compilator and debuger in Linux
[18:29] <theadmin> tedi: The "Additional Drivers" tool will install the drivers for most major manufacturers, i.e. Nvidia and AMD
[18:29] <CFHowlett> milen8204   gcc IIRC
[18:29] <ssta> milen8204: gcc/gdb usually
[18:29] <theadmin> tedi: gcc and gdb, respectively.
[18:29] <milen8204> ok thanks CFHowlett AND ssta
[18:29] <DarsVaeda> when inserting a crypted device i get "missing cryptsetup" which package do i need again?
[18:30] <tedi> theadmin: hmm then it should be installed since I used it, sadly cant still use the Gnome Shell :<
[18:31] <knope> compiz+gnome=:)
[18:31] <theadmin> !find cryptsetup | DarsVaeda
[18:31] <theadmin> DarsVaeda: I take it it's cryptsetup
[18:31] <DarsVaeda> oh that name...that was obvious ^^
[18:32] <DarsVaeda> can't believe its still missing
[18:32] <tsunami_>  strange thing... a cannot see what I have on another partition (a 60gig extf4) but if I ask qBittorrent to open destination folder (that Im using for downloads on this other partition) it opens the directory but I cant see anything else but that directory and I can only see the directories, not the files... any suggestion? strange behavior ubuntu has today..
[18:32] <dtcrshr> after iv apt-get update / upgrade, i have this message - 0 packages..... 4 not updated
[18:32] <tsunami_> do not have permissions to write on the windows partition and on usb external discs which is a pain i opened thunar with root access but it says there is no trash directory when i try to delete something... any suggestions?
[18:32] <dtcrshr> this are linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic and software center
[18:32] <dtcrshr> is there a way to upgrade and force this 4 to be updated?
[18:33] <theadmin> dtcrshr: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:33] <CFHowlett> dtcrshr   one does not simply force packages...
[18:33] <theadmin> dtcrshr: "upgrade" does not care about deps when upgrading, so use dist-upgrade
[18:33] <dtcrshr> hm ok
[18:34] <dtcrshr> cause im having this annoying "panic, switching back to text console" so i need to "UPDATE ALL THE PACKAGES!"
[18:34] <dtcrshr> one does not simply gives me a text mode panic
[18:34] <dtcrshr> :D
[18:34] <CFHowlett> lol!
[18:34] <dtcrshr> 9gag for the win
[18:34] <theadmin> ...
[18:35] <Treat1> Thanks, you guy's/gal's always come though!!!AWESOME!!!You make ubuntu a great OS
[18:36] <minnal> ActionParsnip: just letting you know, the BIOS was old and upgrading it helped with the issue, now keyboard works just nicely, thank you for your help in reminding about bios upgrade :)
[18:36] <spook_> chao
[18:36] <spook_> llego mi chica
[18:36] <spook_> see you all
[18:36] <tsunami_> ActionParsnip: any suggestion to diagnose my problem?
[18:36] <Escherial> hey, what would you all recommend for editing files on a remote machine? kate has a tendency to freeze up or become slow if the connection isn't so great, and it has no way to restore the connection if it's broken
[18:36] <Escherial> i do like kate, though, so something like it would be nice
[18:37] <theadmin> Escherial: vim
[18:37] <auronandace> Escherial: why not nano, far less overhead
[18:38] <the_hydra> hi all
[18:38] <CFHowlett> the_hydra   greetings
[18:38] <the_hydra> what is your recommended web based system monitoring?
[18:38] <the_hydra> cacti? nagios? zabbix?
[18:39] <the_hydra> CFHowlett: hi
[18:39] <CFHowlett> the_hydra   I'm not an admin, but I see frequent references to nagios
[18:40] <the_hydra> CFHowlett: hm i see
[18:40] <Escherial> theadmin, auronandace: i was hoping for a graphical editor, unless you're recommending gvim
[18:40] <the_hydra> CFHowlett: i got same impression too, especially since LinuxQuestions latest polling list nagios as #1 in that category
[18:40] <Escherial> but fair enough, i probably should learn to use vim someday outside of simply being able to type, save, and quit
[18:40] <CFHowlett> the_hydra   well then - asked and answered!
[18:41] <theadmin> Escherial: gvim is okay too. Try cream as well.
[18:41] <the_hydra> CFHowlett: thanks :)
[18:41] <CFHowlett> the_hydra   have fun/be safe
[18:41] <Escherial> my main concern is the performance over ssh...do they choke like kate does? can you restore your session if it's broken (e.g. if your laptop goes to sleep)?
[18:41] <auronandace> Escherial: no offence but if you are editing text over a remote connection why have the overhead of a gui?
[18:41] <zykotick9> Escherial: if you using a terminal based editor with screen - then yes
[18:42] <zykotick9> s/using/used/
[18:42] <Escherial> i have to wonder if i'm in a minority for liking to use a mouse while editing text, heh...
[18:42] <auronandace> Escherial: nano is very simple
[18:43] <Tm_T> using mouse != gui
[18:43] <Escherial> Tm_T: practically, using nano or vim like they've suggested won't by default support a mouse afaik
[18:44] <CFHowlett> Escherial   do what works for you.
[18:44] <Escherial> meh, well, kate is working ok for now; it just gets laggy, which is surprising considering that i'm running it locally
[18:45] <Escherial> i have to wonder if it's saving every character i enter, which would explain the latency somewhat
[18:45] <theadmin> Escherial: jedit, geany, cream, gedit, mousepad # List of some friendly GUI editors sorted by lightweightness. Try them and see which you like.
[18:45] <Escherial> theadmin: right, thanks :)
[18:46] <theadmin> Escherial: It's from least-lightweight to most-lightweight by the way
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> Escherial  and leafpad
[18:46] <Escherial> slightly off topic, but is mounting a folder via scp not a recommended way to edit files on a remote machine?
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> Escherial  NFS
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> or SSH
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> Escherial  scp is cp over ssh
[18:47] <Escherial> ah...right, apologies, it's actually using sftp as far as i can tell...
[18:48] <theadmin> Escherial: I don't see why sshfs/sftp would fail on you
[18:48] <Escherial> it's not failing, but it's not exactly resilient to flaky/closed connections. if i were using, say, winscp on windows, it'd at least attempt to reconnect if i were disconnected
[18:49] <zykotick9> Escherial: using sftp to actually edit seems strange to me
[18:49] <Escherial> zykotick9: as opposed to opening up an ssh session and using a non-graphical editor, you mean?
[18:50] <zykotick9> Escherial: or ssh with X forwarding for a GUI editor
[18:50] <Xeneth> Is there a shortcut in Ubuntu 10.4 to delete an item without sending it to the trash?
[18:51] <Xeneth> err 10.04
[18:51] <theadmin> Xeneth: Sure, shift-del
[18:51] <theadmin> Xeneth: Like usual :D
[18:51] <Xeneth> theadmin, Thanks.  I could have searched, but I'm lazy.
[18:52] <Escherial> zykotick9: but then wouldn't the latency be even worse, as even just interacting the editor would incur delay?
[18:52] <Martin79> Hi, does ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04 have OSS sound system installed? (even the old version)  I only want to uninstall pulseaudio and alsa and stay only with OSS because it has very low latency
[18:52] <slaine_> hello
[18:52] <michael_> ciao a tutti
[18:52] <CFHowlett> !it|michael
[18:53] <zykotick9> Escherial: if your method works, use it :)  If you use windows as a client, probably not too many options.
[18:54] <theadmin> Martin79: I don't think you can use OSS anymore. Gnome, which is what Ubuntu uses, depends on pulseaudio since version 3. Apart from that, I'm not even sure if OSS is in the repos.
[18:55] <auronandace> !find oss
[18:55] <theadmin> auronandace: "and 193 others"... :D
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Martin79: seems to be in the repos
[18:55] <auronandace> !info alsa-oss
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Martin79: http://paste.ubuntu.com/859560/
[18:56] <theadmin> auronandace: That's not it, it's "oss4-base" apparently
[18:56] <Martin79> theadmin actionparsnip thank you very much, looking that ...
[18:57] <Seryth> How can I set the default browser via terminal?
[18:57] <joallard> How do I build a driver with options?
[18:57] <Martin79> I only want to make  a full uninstall of pulseaudio and alsa (because of sound lag) so it's great oss is in the repos
[18:57] <KipIngram> Any word on how soon "enthusiasts" can get their hands on Ubuntu for Android?
[18:57] <Martin79> thank you !
[18:57] <CFHowlett> KipIngram   ask at #ubuntu-phone
[18:58] <KipIngram> Thank you!
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> Seryth: here is the gui way: http://ubuntuguide.net/change-default-browser-mail-musicmovie-player-in-ubuntu-11-10
[18:58] <zykotick9> Seryth: one version is "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" and "sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser" but there is also an XDG thing...
[18:58] <Seryth> ActionParsnip: I'm using openbox, I don't have all those settings things.
[18:58] <Seryth> (handy)
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> Seryth: ahhh, gotcha
[18:59] <zykotick9> Seryth: you might be interested in 'galternatives - graphical setup tool for the alternatives system'
[18:59] <Seryth> zykotick9: So say I want to change it to a certain browser that I have in a dir, rather than from repos, it would be "sudo update-alternatives --config /path/to/browser/"?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> Seryth: http://paste.ubuntu.com/859565/
[19:00] <luvsawti> `hello frds !
[19:00] <CFHowlett> luvsawti   greetings
[19:00] <luvsawti> how i can install nokia pc suite ?
[19:00] <zykotick9> Seryth: if you're using an out of repo browser i doubt alternatives is going to be aware of it?!  sorry, don't know what you'd need to use - good luck.
[19:00] <luist> how do i create binary-amd64 with reprepro?? some machine is asking for …/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz inside my repo but i only have binary-i386
[19:00] <CFHowlett> !wine|luvsawti
[19:01] <CFHowlett> luvsawti   try in wine
[19:01] <Seryth> ActionParsnip: Same thing as what I said to zykotick9: I'm using an out of repo browser (nightly, to be precise)...so would that work?
[19:01] <mobhero> Hi, No such map passwd.byname. reason can't bind to server which server this domain error in nis ubuntu 10.04
[19:01] <luvsawti> are u sure about it because i donot like to waste my time !
[19:02] <auronandace> !appdb | luvsawti
[19:02] <skinnymg1> hello everyone
[19:02] <CFHowlett> skinnymg1   greetings
[19:02] <theadmin> auronandace: You can't install drivers in wine, and Nokia PC suite is a pack of those (as well as an overlay to use them)
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> Seryth: its just a bunch of symlinks, just link up how mine isand it'll be ok
[19:03] <auronandace> theadmin: ahh, didn't know that, thanks for the info (just thought it was some windows app)
[19:04] <CFHowlett> theadmin auronandace   as did I
[19:04] <Seryth> ActionParsnip: Gotcha, thanks.
[19:04] <Favst0> hi
[19:04] <CFHowlett> Favst0   greetings
[19:04] <Favst0> hi
[19:05] <SockPants> hi all,
[19:05] <darrenlooby> Do I need the user "debian-sys-maint" in my mysql?
[19:05] <SockPants> i have a server installation that i am trying to get gnome working on
[19:05] <luist> how do i create binary-amd64 with reprepro?? some machine is asking for …/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz inside my repo but i only have binary-i386
[19:05] <SockPants> long story short i need to change the default graphical shell to gdm from the command line. where can i do this?
[19:06] <luvsawti> i typed wine in usc but its showed many think !
[19:06] <CFHowlett> ???
[19:06] <Rewt`> SockPants: look into runlevels
[19:07] <theadmin> luvsawti: sudo apt-get install wine
[19:07] <skinnymg1> SockPants, sudo nano rc.conf and add gdm to the Daemons list
[19:07] <theadmin> skinnymg1: ...this ain't Arch
[19:07] <Pici> SockPants: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[19:07] <luvsawti> but it is 104 mb !
[19:07] <Pici> !runlevels | Rewt`
[19:07] <skinnymg1> it will still run from the daemons just like arch
[19:08] <theadmin> SockPants: When apt-get installs gdm, you'll be prompted to choose the default login manager. You can use dpkg-reconfigure gdm to select it at a later stage.
[19:08] <theadmin> skinnymg1: Ubuntu doesn't *have* an rc.conf though.
[19:08] <auronandace> !upstart | skinnymg1
[19:08] <theadmin> skinnymg1: Startup is configured differently... It's not the same
[19:08] <skinnymg1> ok my bad then
[19:08] <Xeneth> any way to open VCE file in Ubuntu?
[19:09] <CFHowlett> Xeneth   see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870561
[19:09] <Guest28134> how to use 915resolution in grub ,my device is intel 810e
[19:10] <luvsawti> how i can the grub background image !
[19:10] <elsombrero> hi @ all, i've got an 11.10 installation that has a minor issue: it plays the startup chime when X is started, but i cannot play back any media, and the sound prefpane does not show any devices or anything.
[19:11] <elsombrero> it used to work until ubuntu software center updated the system
[19:12] <Stevan94NoT> Anyone here who can help me I have problem installing Ubuntu?
[19:12] <Barbariandude> Hi guys, got an ubuntu 11.10 server, I'm currently SSHed into it, LAN works fine but I can't connect to the internet through it despite having it specifically in a DMZ, gateway is correct and IP address is set. Anyone got an idea what's going on?
[19:12]  * P1rate says hi!
[19:12] <CFHowlett> Stevan94NoT   what's the problem?
[19:12] <Xeneth> CFHowlett, Thanks, trying now.
[19:12] <CFHowlett> Xeneth   good luck!
[19:12] <Stevan94NoT> I cant start installer I burned it on cd
[19:13] <Guest28134> please help me
[19:13] <Stevan94NoT> and when i start autorun and click demo and full installation and reset pc it nothing happens
[19:13] <Dr_willis> Stevan94NoT,  you are booting the cd? to do a full install?
[19:13] <Stevan94NoT> I putted CDROM in 1st boot device and HDD in second
[19:13] <Stevan94NoT> yes
[19:13] <skinnymg1> Stevan94NoT, go into the bios and make sure your cd is set to boot before your hard drive
[19:14] <CFHowlett> Stevan94NoT  version of ubuntu?
[19:14] <Stevan94NoT> Latest
[19:14]  * captainfixerpc14 seeks direction -  with 10.10 using same workgroup name - can ping a windows xp pc no prob - unable to view ANY workgroups in nautilus - need to find out what I am not seeing - never had this problem - usually see entire network - now doesn't see itself
[19:14] <elsombrero> fwiw: my audio device: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
[19:14] <CFHowlett> Stevan94NoT   and it completed the installation?
[19:14] <Dr_willis> latest alpha? ;)
[19:15] <Stevan94NoT> when I restard PC it automaticly starts windows
[19:15] <CFHowlett> Stevan94NoT   confirm that you're installing ubuntu 11.10 ...
[19:15] <elsombrero> funny thing is i can set the volume, but i cannot play anything back
[19:15] <zykotick9> Stevan94NoT: as Dr_willis just pointed out, "Latest" could be several versions.
[19:15] <Stevan94NoT> ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Stevan94NoT: is the BIOS set to boot CD first?
[19:15] <Stevan94NoT> yes
[19:16] <carcharodon> #oie
[19:16] <P1rate> Did you burned it on the cd correctly?
[19:16] <luvsawti>  how i can change the grub background image !
[19:16] <Stevan94NoT> Yep used Nero burning rom
[19:16] <carcharodon> # oie
[19:16] <P1rate> Xm
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Stevan94NoT: did you extract the iSO then burn the data?
[19:16] <ZeloZelos> luvsawti, get grub customizer
[19:16] <Stevan94NoT> yes
[19:16] <Stevan94NoT> extracted using daemon tools
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Stevan94NoT: you don't extract it!
[19:16] <ch33z__> LOl I love this
[19:16] <ch33z__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E73RM9gS7bU
[19:16] <luvsawti> and how to get it ?
[19:16] <CFHowlett> Stevan94NoT   whao, what?
[19:16] <ZeloZelos> luvsawti, you will need to add the ppa
[19:16] <carcharodon> channel
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Stevan94NoT: you just open the file with nero and it will burn ok (burn as slowly as possible)
[19:17] <Pici> ch33z__: This channel is for support, please don't post random links here.
[19:17] <luvsawti> what is that ppa !
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> luvsawti: the grub bootloader is smart
[19:17] <Stevan94NoT> I mounted ISO file, and burned all things that was in Iso and burned on CD i did wrong huh?
[19:17] <ZeloZelos> luvsawti, see this page   https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/grub-customizer
[19:17] <zykotick9> Stevan94NoT: that's not how you burn ISOs... you should reburn it properly
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> luvsawti: if you copy the image to /boot/grub/    it will be used when you run:   sudo update-grub
[19:18] <auronandace> !ppa | luvsawti
[19:18] <CFHowlett> Stevan94NoT   you need to burn an IMAGE file not a data file.
[19:18] <ehernandez> #reach
[19:18] <Stevan94NoT> ok, i will do that thank guys for your help
[19:18] <CFHowlett> Stevan94NoT   does your computer support usb boot?
[19:19] <Stevan94NoT> yes?
[19:19] <Dr_willis> !burn
[19:19] <CFHowlett> Stevan94NoT   consider creating a boot usb
[19:19] <Dr_willis> why do people always seem to want to use deamon tools. :)
[19:19] <Stevan94NoT> well im a newbie :D
[19:19] <carcharodon> help
[19:19] <P1rate> Dr_willis: why not? :P
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Stevan94NoT: burning ISOs is not an Ubuntu specific thing
[19:19] <Dr_willis> at least you dident open it with winrar.
[19:19] <CFHowlett> Stevan94NoT   no worries - next month you'll be much smarter!
[19:19] <zykotick9> carcharodon: do you have an ubuntu support question?  if so, ask it.
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: did, but used daemontools
[19:20] <Dr_willis> I tend to use infrarecorder to burn isos to disk.
[19:20]  * Dr_willis recalls someone asking over and over once how to burn an rar to cd.. since the iso was opening in winrar for some insane reason. :)
[19:20] <P1rate> I think infra is the one that official ubuntu tut uses
[19:20] <kurtwp_> !LTS
[19:21] <elsombrero> regarding my audio problem: i installed mpg123, to have something terminal based, and this is what happens: http://pastebin.com/GDtCkN8g
[19:21] <kurtwp_> Is 12.04 will be considered LTS for the server
[19:21] <Pici> kurtwp_: Yes.
[19:21] <kurtwp_> Pici, when is the release date
[19:22] <vubuntor932> hi all
[19:22] <theadmin> kurtwp_: 12.04 means April 2012
[19:22] <kurtwp_> oh the .04 = April
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> kurtwp_: exacty
[19:22] <Pici> kurtwp_: The 26th of april. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule for more info, also #ubuntu+1
[19:22] <vubuntor932> for list text file 'use ls *.txt'
[19:22] <kurtwp_> Great thanks for the info
[19:22] <luvsawti> i am worried about this third-party , is there any other way to change grub bg image ?
[19:23] <module000> luvsawti: you can edit it in your grub.cfg, all the syntax is included in the appropriate man pages
[19:23] <Dr_willis> luvsawti,  the grub2 docs detail how to give the grub menu an image.
[19:23] <vubuntor932> if i want to list *.txt and *.deb
[19:23] <vubuntor932> what to do?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> luvsawti: yes, copy the image to /boot/grub
[19:23] <theadmin> vubuntor932: ls *.txt *.deb
[19:23] <theadmin> vubuntor932: :P
[19:23] <elsombrero> Please? anybody?
[19:24] <Dr_willis> vubuntor932,   the trick to rember is that its the shell expanding the *, not the ls command. echo *.txt  *.deb would also work.
[19:24] <elsombrero> i need some tunes and my flatmates are making fun of me :)
[19:24] <vubuntor932> theadmin: pls
[19:24] <dtcrshr> i have a pretty old notebook here, looking on xp information it has a sis 650 vga, will it work if i install ubuntu?
[19:24] <theadmin> vubuntor932: Seriously. "ls *.txt *.deb"
[19:24] <Dr_willis> elsombrero,  plenty of music streaming services out there.
[19:24] <vubuntor932> if use ls???
[19:24] <elsombrero> Dr_willis: all useless, if my audio device doesnt work
[19:25] <vubuntor932> theadmin: ok
[19:25] <vubuntor932> great
[19:25] <Dr_willis> elsombrero,   then why were you asking for tunes.. :)
[19:25] <dtcrshr> network is sis 900, 20gb hard drive
[19:25] <vubuntor932> thanks all
[19:25] <vubuntor932> :d
[19:25] <yugandhar> Hi
[19:25] <luvsawti> what type of image format and what is resolution required for this ?
[19:25] <elsombrero> ok, let me rephrase: can somebocy tell me why my bleeping ALSA isnt doing its job?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> luvsawti: i've used jpg
[19:26] <Dr_willis> luvsawti,  i recall using .png or .jpg  i scaled them to be the same res as my grub menu was using.
[19:26] <boblu_> Hi, I'm having problems installing the flash debug player in chrome/firefox. I've tried following tips online but none of them seem to help me...
[19:26] <elsombrero> also, the ubuntu software broke it with an update, so i AM considering ubuntu to be responsible for this.
[19:26] <elsombrero> i didnt change anything but the X drivers in the meanwhile
[19:27] <elsombrero> [ati/amd proprietary ones]
[19:27] <Dr_willis> elsombrero,  using HDMI audio out? or normal rca/audio jacks?
[19:27] <elsombrero> normal  jacks
[19:27] <elsombrero> fun thing: i hear the ubuntu chime on X startup
[19:27] <pickel> Is there any way to get the file pam_gnome_keyring.so for ubuntu 11.10
[19:27] <luvsawti> my screen resolution is 1360x768 !
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> elsombrero: what is the output of: wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[19:28] <pickel> i am missing it somehow
[19:28] <Dr_willis> !find pam_gnome_keyring.so
[19:28] <elsombrero> ActionParsnip: one sec
[19:28] <Dr_willis> pickel,  there ya go ^^^
[19:29] <pickel> Dr_willis: ok but i cannnot connect to the internet with it since it is kicking me out when i log in.
[19:29] <pickel> due to the missing file
[19:29] <elsombrero> ActionParsnip:  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6847c97bc01b2a2d7e5f5217b41aa7e9fdf736c8
[19:29] <shaneo> hey guys im having issues with flash videos every video i play or atleasrt want to play has a big red circle with a line throught it. Just stated happening  a few days ago. I have adobe flash 11 installed so what could be the problem
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> sorry missed that :(, whats the link again please
[19:30] <pickel> ActionParsnip: lsombrero: ActionParsnip:  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6847c97bc01b2a2d7e5f5217b41aa7e9fdf736c8
[19:30] <cemycc> What is the best option to backup my ubuntu PC ( with all the installed application ) and to use that backup on my laptop to restore that packages and all the setings ?
[19:30] <Dr_willis> pickel,  no idea. I never use pam that i know of..  try logging in at the console
[19:30] <Dr_willis> !info  libpam-gnome-keyring
[19:30] <shaneo> cemycc: deja dup
[19:31] <elsombrero> ActionParsnip:  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6847c97bc01b2a2d7e5f5217b41aa7e9fdf736c8
[19:31] <pickel> Dr_willis: i can log in at console but i am not man enough to setup the WLAN
[19:31] <elsombrero> sorry just noticed your rejoin
[19:31] <cemycc> shameo: I was trying to use it but what folders I need to backup from /  ?
[19:31] <Dr_willis> pickel,  seen guides on it. havent had to do it that way in ages. was just a few commands i recall.
[19:31] <esing> hi
[19:32] <esing> which anti virus program would you recommend me to use in ubuntu for checking my USB hdd for windows trojans ?
[19:32] <shaneo> cemycc:/ folder will back up your whole pc
[19:32] <Trevor69420> cemycc u can just backup /
[19:32] <Trevor69420> errr what shaneo said
[19:32] <Trevor69420> unless u want it bootable that is
[19:32] <lokomis> cemycc provided the software you have on the two machines is identical (running same version of ubu, same packages installed) I'm pretty sure you can just backup the contents of your home directory and move them over
[19:32] <lokomis> somebody correct me if i'm wrong though
[19:32] <shaneo> cemycc: or backup /home any other folders you want to hold on to
[19:33] <elsombrero>  esing : rm -rf  any files you dont know ?
[19:33] <Trevor69420> or cemycc u can image the hard drive
[19:33] <luvsawti> how i can copy image to  /boot/grub !
[19:33] <elsombrero> most "viruses" are hidden as autoexec crap
[19:33] <cemycc> lokomis: I have allot of applications installed and I don't want to install them all again
[19:33] <shaneo> cemycc: idk how large your hdd is but i would hope you have an external drive big enough if your going to backup /
[19:33] <shaneo> cemycc: also backing up / requires root
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> luvsawti: sudo cp file /boot/grub
[19:34] <Trevor69420> cemycc it sounds like you are looking to image your drive right?
[19:34] <cemycc> shaneo: Is ok, but it will work if i backup / and restore on a fresh install on my laptop ?
[19:34] <cemycc> Trevor69420, yes. How can i make that ?
[19:34] <esing> elsombrero thx
[19:34] <yugandhar> Can anybody help to find any chat application in ubuntu 10.04 for LAN
[19:34] <esing> elsombrero so i will not even need an antivirus program
[19:34] <cemycc> Trevor69420, and to use that image on my laptop so my laptop will be like my PC :)
[19:34] <Trevor69420> cemycc you can use part image
 will you plz elabrote it !
[19:34] <Trevor69420> errr partimage
[19:34] <shaneo> cemycc: yes as long as you arnt trying to install x64 on a x32 backup
[19:35] <esing> elsombrero only if there are many files it might be alittle bit much to check all folders ^^
[19:35] <Trevor69420> cemycc, http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
[19:35] <Dr_willis> cemycc,  i just make a list of the installed apps and reinstall them.  but i got good download speeds. :)
[19:35] <Dr_willis> !clone
[19:36] <shaneo> esing: Linux has a firewall built in and you have to give permissions on windows executables so no need for anti virus .exe's cant run if you dont let them
[19:36] <Trevor69420> cemycc, u can also try these steps too... http://www.hanckmann.net/?q=node/19
[19:36] <esing> shaneo i know that nice information too :P
[19:36] <cemycc> Dr_willis Thanks for that. Is more simple like that I just get the list and install it on laptop and I backup only the home folder and /etc/apt folder right ?
[19:37] <Trevor69420> cemycc also the one i have used in the past is clonezilla as well
[19:37] <esing> shaneo but my intention is to clean the usb drive so i can use it on windows systems =)
[19:37] <Trevor69420> that works really well
[19:37] <Dr_willis> cemycc,  i keep my /home/ on its own partion. So i dont need to worry about it.. and /etc/apt is just the config/repo list for your setup.
[19:37] <shaneo> esing: oic
[19:37] <cemycc> Trevor69420, the image is a good solution too but i don't know if is working on LVM ?
[19:38] <Dr_willis> I normally use a clean install as a time/way to 'clean out all the crud i played with that i never use' :)
[19:38] <yugandhar> Hi guys, Can anyone help in finding chat application like skype in ubuntu 10.04 for LAN?
[19:38] <Trevor69420> cemycc i dont know either
[19:38] <cemycc> Dr_willis, same but I want to clone my brand new laptop with my pc :)
[19:38] <Trevor69420> u should try it and see what happens
[19:38] <cemycc> Yep
[19:38] <Dr_willis> yugandhar,  theres 'talk' and  i think a few other apps in the repos that are similer. or you could setup a jabber, or irc server.
[19:38] <Trevor69420> cemycc i think u can use gparted to also copy partitions to another drive
[19:38] <shaneo> yugandhar: skpy like or skype
[19:39] <shaneo> *skype
[19:39] <shaneo> skype is available in Ubuntu
[19:39] <Dr_willis> cemycc,  you can use 'dd' to make an exact image  to the other hd.  then use gparted to resize it to fill up the new hd.
[19:39] <Trevor69420> that should copy the data too but it'll be slow
[19:39] <Trevor69420> yea dd works as well
[19:39] <Dr_willis> ive used a flash drive as a 'clone' source to make several copys of a setup befor. :)
[19:39] <Trevor69420> lots of solutions to be honest
[19:40] <yugandhar> shaneo : not a skype, we need chat application for LAN
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: do you want voice chat?
[19:40] <Trevor69420> yugandhar, try openfire
[19:40] <Dr_willis> yugandhar,  'chat' meaning Text chat? voicd chat?
[19:40] <yugandhar> like skype only
[19:40] <Trevor69420> yugandhar, i've used that, it's basically jabber
[19:40] <yugandhar> text chat DR_willis
[19:40] <theadmin> yugandhar: Set up a Jabber server on one of the computers and let others connect to it
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: could setup a  jabber or irc server
[19:40] <Trevor69420> yugandhar, http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/index.jsp
[19:40] <Dr_willis> I recall seeing some very basic ruby/chat/talk apps out also. :) in like 20 lines of ruby code.
[19:41] <Trevor69420> yugandhar, openfire uses XMPP (Jabber) and it also has a video plugin but i havent used that
[19:41] <yugandhar> irc is like a group chat
[19:41] <Trevor69420> only the IM
[19:41] <Dr_willis> I think theres some front ends to 'talk' also.
[19:41] <Dr_willis> !info talk
[19:41] <yugandhar> we need only the IM
[19:41] <Trevor69420> yugandhar, and you can use many clients that can IM like iChat
[19:41] <Trevor69420> Pandoin
[19:41] <Trevor69420> yugandhar, yes try openfire thats what it's for
[19:42] <ssta> yugandhar: teamspeak might be another option?
[19:42] <Trevor69420> ichat can connect to it and so can most other chat applications
[19:42] <pickel> yugandhar: pidgin works with most chat protocols
[19:42] <Trevor69420> i use pandoin personally
[19:42] <Trevor69420> but pidgin works
[19:42] <Trevor69420> if you need help setting up openfire let me know yugandhar i've done number of them on ubuntu server
[19:42] <Dr_willis> I recall kde having some 'find local users'  thing. never did figure out how it was supposed to work/chat. :) or what it used.
[19:43] <Trevor69420> but also it helps if i know how many clients you have
[19:43] <ssta> I don't see openfire in the repos.  Is the package named something else?
[19:43] <blk> How do I install ubuntu server with software RAID 10 -- does the installer not support this feature?
[19:43] <Trevor69420> i dont know it's in the repos ssta
[19:44] <Trevor69420> it has a .deb package for it
[19:44] <Trevor69420> wget http://www.igniterealtime.org/downloadServlet?filename=openfire/openfire_3.6.4_all.deb
[19:44] <Trevor69420> yugandhar, http://library.linode.com/communications/xmpp/openfire/ubuntu-10.04-lucid
[19:44] <Trevor69420> those should work for the .latest ubuntu release too
[19:44] <zykotick9> openfire is just a jabber/xmpp server - why not use one from the repo?
[19:45] <luvsawti> is there any way to install asus driver !
[19:45] <Trevor69420> i'm sure there are a number of options zykotick9 i only have experience using openfire personally
[19:45] <yugandhar> Trevor:  can you please ping me the links for openfire and teamspeak and pidgin to install
[19:45] <Trevor69420> and i love it
[19:45] <emboss> Hi I'm trying to setup an apple bluetooth keyboard and mouse. I went through the pairing process and it seemed to complete ok. But I can't input from the mouse or keyboard? I'm using a updated version of 10.04 LTS
[19:46] <zykotick9> Trevor69420: and after yugandhar installs openfire, they're not going to be able to get help here (unless you're here)
[19:46] <Trevor69420> guess it
[19:46] <Trevor69420> errr
[19:47] <Trevor69420> guess its a good reason to not ban me
[19:47] <Trevor69420> ;-)
[19:47] <Dr_willis> openfire seems rather... impressive. :) totally differnt 'target' then teamspeak.
[19:47] <Trevor69420> openfire kicks butt in every way shape or form
[19:47] <Dr_willis> may be a bit overkill for a 3 person network. :)
[19:48] <Trevor69420> oh 3 people
[19:48] <Trevor69420> i dunno i have almost 10,000 users on mine
[19:48] <ssta> it looks interesting for my job though...I must have a look into it
[19:48] <Trevor69420> but yea bit overkill
[19:48] <Trevor69420> lol
[19:48] <Trevor69420> i use it for an entire company
[19:49] <ssta> easy to wind win32 clients for it?
[19:49] <ssta> find
[19:49] <Dr_willis> http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/documentation.jsp    says supports windows.. time to do some reading. :)
[19:49] <luvsawti>        plz tell me is there any way to install asus motherboard chipset driver !
[19:49] <ssta> the server supports windows.  I'm wondering about clients.  I guess it's offtopic for here though
[19:50] <_Marcus> luvsawti: Did you check the available drivers?
[19:50] <Dr_willis> id guess any jabber client would work.
[19:50] <esing> i wanted to run teamviewer, but ubuntu tells me : "teamviewer must not be executed as root"
[19:50] <joallard> How do I build a driver with options?
[19:50] <zykotick9> luvsawti: "motherboard chipset" drivers are typically included in the kernel?
[19:50] <esing> what do I wrong? i didnt write "sudo teamviewer" .. i just wrote "teamviewer" in terminal
[19:50] <_Marcus> esing: Don't run it with sudo, or log out of root and into a different user.
[19:50] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! I want to know how can I remap some keys.
[19:51] <luvsawti> no
[19:51] <_Marcus> !shortcut
[19:51] <zykotick9> esing: does you terminal start with a # or a $
[19:51] <Belias> hello
[19:51] <_Marcus> JoseeAntonioR: Read above
[19:51] <Belias> this is a very dangerous article
[19:51] <Belias> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/how-remove-your-google-search-history-googles-new-privacy-policy-takes-effect
[19:51] <CFHowlett> Belias   greetings
[19:51] <ardian> Hi I am having a problems httpd.conf is empty ?
[19:51] <JoseeAntonioR> _Marcus: Thanks.
[19:51] <Belias> would google publish what users are searching for?
[19:52] <esing> zykotick9 #
[19:52] <luvsawti> what it is included . Then how to cheackk the available driver ?
[19:52] <CFHowlett> !ot|belias
[19:52] <Belias> ok
[19:52] <esing> _marcus well how do i log out ? i think if i boot ubuntu iam always admin :o
[19:53] <_Marcus> esing: When you boot ubuntu, don't log into admin.
[19:53] <esing> or maybe iam admin because i used 2 minutes ago "sudo" to install something
[19:53] <_Marcus> esing: Log into a user.
[19:53] <urupica> JoseeAntonioR: xmodmap
[19:53] <esing> _marcus for that i have to create user first ?
[19:53] <_Marcus> esing: If you don't have one yet, yes
[19:53] <zykotick9> esing: # means root, $ a regular user
[19:53] <JoseeAntonioR> urupica Perfect, thank you.
[19:53] <joel135> how long would it take to install 2.5 GiB of debian packages on your system?
[19:53] <ssta> joel135: depends on your system...
[19:54] <zykotick9> joel135: literally Debian packages?  if so - DON'T
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> joel135: depends on CPU, RAM,drive speed and so forth
[19:54] <Dr_willis> and what the packages are doing...
[19:55] <Trevor69420> lol
[19:55] <esing> if i write : useradd jasmin ... it says it already exists
[19:55] <esing> does it mean "jasmin" is already admin ?
[19:55] <joel135> try to make it simple. on YOUR system, when installing something that YOU would install, what's the average speed? is it 1 MiB/s, or is it 20?
[19:55] <esing> or does it mean i have to login to jasmin ?
[19:56] <ssta> esing: what is the output of: id
[19:56] <elsombrero> ActionParsnip: was AFK. did i miss anything from yoy?
[19:56] <zykotick9> esing: FYI adduser is a lot easerier to use then useradd
[19:56] <elsombrero> you even
[19:56] <Trevor69420> esing.. it means the user exists not that it's admin
[19:56] <warfaren> useradd is supposed to create a new user account. and for get it, use adduser instead, much better. then you can log into jasmin by typing su jasmin
[19:56] <CFHowlett> joel135   pretty sure bandwith speeds differ per user, time of day, network, etc.
[19:56] <Trevor69420> if the user jamin exists then u need tpo add her to the correct group
[19:57] <Trevor69420> jasmin*
[19:58] <shaneo> so is anyone else having issues watching youtube videos
[19:58] <shaneo> every video i try to play doesnt work
[19:58] <warfaren> shaneo: perhaps you need to install flash player?
[19:58] <CFHowlett> shaneo   youtube only?  try vimeo
[19:59] <shaneo> yes i have flash installed this just started yesterday and no not just youtube everywhere
[19:59] <warfaren> youtube works just fine for me, so there's nothing wrong with youtube
[19:59] <shaneo> *its everywhere
[19:59] <joel135> CFHowlett: but let's say the packages are already downloaded
[19:59] <warfaren> shaneo: well what's the error you're getting?
[19:59] <CFHowlett> shaneo   can you play downloaded videos?
[20:00] <sleepgone> Having a  problem connecting to network. Followed directions in "network troubleshooter" to no avail. any suggestions?
[20:00] <shaneo> big red circle with a line throught it than some wierd text
[20:00] <CFHowlett> joel135   as someone else stated, your ram, hdd, chip all those are factors.  IOW no one can say with any meaningful certainty
[20:00] <warfaren> shaneo: can you take a screenshot? i'd like to see
[20:00] <CFHowlett> shaneo   post a pic...
[20:00] <shaneo> yes any movies i have on my pc work fine
[20:00] <warfaren> hehehe
[20:00] <shaneo> warfaren: yes one sec
[20:00] <warfaren> cool
[20:01] <sukima> How do you install Ubuntu 11.10 onto a virtual disk that resides on a FAT32 system the same way Wubi does?
[20:01] <ssta> joel135: debootstrapping a base sid chroot here takes about 15 minutes (extrapolate from that what you will)
[20:01] <Trevor69420> sukima huh?
[20:01] <esing> trevor69420 it worked :)
[20:01] <Trevor69420> are u using vbox
[20:01] <esing> thx
[20:01] <yugandhar> Hey guys, i have an error with my NIS (Error is  "YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: Domain not bind") . Can you pls help on this. we are getting struggle since two days on this. Please help me
[20:01] <Trevor69420> what worked esing?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> sukima: fat32 has a maximum file size of 4Gb, so you are severly restricted there
[20:02] <sukima> Sorry, rephrase. How do I install ubuntu onto an exernal HDD 500GB formated as FAT32 using the virtual disk file the same way wubi installs into a folder under windows internal drive?
[20:02] <ribot> hi
[20:03] <CFHowlett> ribot   greetings
[20:03] <joel135> ssta: thank you! it helped!
[20:03] <sukima> ActionParsnip: But linux and windows sees that partition as FAT32 but sees the whole 499GB on it
[20:03] <ribot> when i send an email through php, it uses a host that i have not written in phpp, so it must be some setting in ubuntu, now i wonder where that might be
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> sukima: you set the location to store the file. FAT32 has a maximum file size of 4Gb, so you will only be ableto have a 4Gb wubi file
[20:03] <ssta> joel135: of course that includes download time
[20:03] <shaneo> warfren: https://imgur.com/l2jxx
[20:03] <Trevor69420> sukima he means that you can only have files up to 4GB in size
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> sukima: yes, you can use all 500Gb, just the maximum individual file sizeif 4Gb
[20:04] <sukima> ActionParsnip: Oh!
[20:04] <vubuntor932> hi
[20:04] <vubuntor932> for f in $(ls *.flv *.mpg *.mp4 *.avi)
[20:04] <JoseeAntonioR> I have a problem over here. I have set a key shortcut for my multimedia keys. I have set, for example, Monitor Brightness Down to act as banshee --play, but it acts as the key it is, + the shortcut. How can I avoid, for example, this key, to lower the brightness, and just to play/pause the music?
[20:04] <Trevor69420> hence why NTFS is suggested sukima
[20:04] <vubuntor932> it's correc?
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> sukima: yes, Fat32 is junk
[20:04] <Trevor69420> but out of curiosity why install with WUBI?
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> sukima: can't even hold a DVD ISO
[20:04] <elsombrero> ActionParsnip: ?
[20:04] <warfaren> shaneo: well whatever is going on there i don't think it is using flash player...
[20:04] <pythonirc101> I'm trying to boot into single user mode using grub, but dont have the "kernel" line anymore when i press "e".
[20:04] <Trevor69420> if it's on a second hd that is
[20:04] <ssta> vubuntor932: as long as none of the filenames contain spaces it should be
[20:05] <pythonirc101> Any ideas how to  boot into single user mode on this ubuntu box
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> elsombrero: try asking a question rather than simply sending '?'which means nothing
[20:05] <sukima> Ok then how about this: I have partitioned the external HDD with 450GB asthe FAT32, then 45GB for ext4 and 5GB for swap. But grub keeps complaining after the install that it is an unknown filesystem
[20:05] <shaneo> i even uninstalled flash and re-ionstalled and still get the same thing
[20:05] <warfaren> shaneo: does not look anything like that, more like you're using the totem player (which comes with ubuntu) to play flash video content? :S
[20:05] <CFHowlett> shaneo   could your chrome settings be set to block this content
[20:05] <elsombrero> ActionParsnip: i had asked if you had replied and if i had missed it
[20:05] <vubuntor932> i want get file name 'file by file'
[20:05] <Austneal> hello people
[20:05] <elsombrero> ActionParsnip: regading the alsa issue
[20:05] <CFHowlett> Austneal   greetings
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> elsombrero: I had nothing to add, so didn't reply. Sorry
[20:06] <JoseeAntonioR> Austneal Hello!
[20:06] <Austneal> I've got a bit of a linux problem
[20:06] <elsombrero> snap.
[20:06] <Trevor69420> sukima are you trying to install to the correct partition?
[20:06] <Trevor69420> Austneal, just ask
[20:06] <Austneal> and being a ubuntu noob.... its going horribly
[20:06] <shaneo> warfaren CFHowlett: i dont even have totem installed i dont think and ill check my google chrome setting but it also happens in firefox
[20:06] <elsombrero> ok. so, i need some info to debug this. what is the default sound daemon for ubuntu?
[20:06] <elsombrero> ESD ?
[20:06] <elsombrero> or jackd ?
[20:06] <Austneal> Trying to play eve online
[20:06] <Austneal> while behind a firewall
[20:06] <Austneal> on Ubuntu >.>
[20:06] <warfaren> shaneo: think u can try with another browser? perhaps firefox... or even chromium (which comes with flash player preinstalled)
[20:06] <Trevor69420> ok Austneal and wats the issue
[20:07] <JoseeAntonioR> sukima: Have you checked that GRUB installed in the whole HDD, and not in the partition?
[20:07] <Austneal> idk what the heck im doing lol
[20:07] <Trevor69420> well that means nothing...
[20:07] <Trevor69420> have u installed it Austneal ?
[20:07] <Trevor69420> where is the problem?
[20:07] <Trevor69420> lol
[20:07] <Austneal> i assume I need some sort of way to punch through the firewall
[20:07] <Trevor69420> no u need to configure your firewall
[20:07] <Austneal> tunnel through SSL or whatnot
[20:07] <Trevor69420> is your firewall a router?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Austneal: well you only made a statement. You never metioned a problem
[20:07] <Austneal> firewall
[20:07] <Austneal> a school firewall
[20:08] <JoseeAntonioR> !enter | Austneal
[20:08] <shaneo> warfaren: Firefox does the same thing ill try chromium though and see what happens
[20:08] <warfaren> Austneal: you could use an ssh tunnel if you have access to an SSH server outside the school
[20:08] <Trevor69420> austneal well then u're gonna have issues unless u can modify the firewall
[20:08] <elsombrero> Austneal: shouldny you be studying?
[20:08] <ssta> Austneal: ask your admin to open it for you then
[20:08] <warfaren> shaneo: do that :)
[20:08] <Austneal> They wont open it
[20:08] <Trevor69420> well then we cant help Austneal
[20:08] <Trevor69420> haha
[20:08] <ssta> Austneal: I doubt you'll find anyone here willing to help you circumvent a school firewqall
[20:08] <Austneal> I can do this on windows....
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> Austneal: you may need a proxy
[20:08] <Austneal> http://privatetunnel.com/
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> Austneal: if there is a proxy, it will block any OS
[20:09] <Austneal> ^^ thats what i use to get around it on windows
[20:09] <Trevor69420> ah es a proxy
[20:09] <pythonirc101> there is no kernel line in my ubuntu boot -- any hints on how to boot into single user mode?
[20:09] <warfaren> Austneal: do you have access to an SSH server?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Austneal: then use a proxy in ubuntu...
[20:09] <Austneal> I dont believe so
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> !text | pythonirc101
[20:09] <Austneal> I have a windows machine outside the network right now, but idk if that will work
[20:10] <Trevor69420> does your windows machine run ssh?
[20:10] <warfaren> yeah that wont be of much use, you'd want a *nix server
[20:10] <Trevor69420> openssh that is...
[20:10] <ssta> are we really going to help this guy break his school rules?!
[20:10] <ssta> I should probably be quiet
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> Austneal: then its outside the lan, so not using the firewall
[20:10] <Trevor69420> lol
[20:10] <shaneo> warfaren: same thing in chromium
[20:10] <Austneal> Its not breaking the rules, the admin has said that if i can get it to work over a different port / protocol, im ok
[20:10] <Trevor69420> ActionParsnip, for ssh warfaren was suggesting
[20:11] <_Marcus> ssta: I would help him.
[20:11] <Trevor69420> austneal what ports does eve online require?
[20:11] <Austneal> Not entirely sure.... one momenty
[20:11] <warfaren> shaneo: that's really strange.. exactly how are you installing the flash player?
[20:12] <Austneal> Looks like port 26000
[20:12] <shaneo> warfaren: same thing in chromium
[20:12] <shaneo> lol sorry
[20:12] <shaneo> warfaren: ubuntu software center
[20:12] <warfaren> alright, the adobe flash plugin?
[20:12] <shaneo> ypu
[20:12] <shaneo> *yup
[20:12] <warfaren> right. let me think
[20:13] <vubuntor932> ssta: if it contain space??
[20:13] <Austneal> the only ports open are 80, and whatever SSL works on
[20:13] <warfaren> shaneo: can you play other flash content? such as flash games, speedtest.net etc?
[20:13] <Trevor69420> Austneal, you need to use a proxy
[20:13] <Trevor69420> Austneal, ssl is 443
[20:13] <vubuntor932> ssta: for f in $(ls *.flv *.mpg *.mp4 *.avi)
[20:13] <Austneal> Ok awesome.... How do i go about this?
[20:13] <shaneo> warfaren: no speedtest.net does the same thing
[20:13] <Austneal> <== networking noob
[20:13] <Trevor69420> well first you need a proxy server Austneal
[20:14] <warfaren> shaneo: speedtest shows you that totem player icon aswell?
[20:14] <Trevor69420> which i assume u dont have Austneal
[20:14] <shaneo> yup
[20:14] <Austneal> I have a proxy program on my desktop at home
[20:14] <Trevor69420> proxy program is different
[20:14] <Trevor69420> u need a server that will allow you to proxy on port 26000
[20:14] <warfaren> shaneo: that's really really strange, somewhere you must've accidently configured totem to be your default flash player
[20:14] <Austneal> This is why I prefer windows....
[20:15] <shaneo> hmmm
[20:15] <Trevor69420> windows and linux doesnt matter
[20:15] <warfaren> shaneo: are you sure you dont have totem player still installed? try typing totem in the terminal and press enter
[20:15] <Trevor69420> networking rules apply Austneal
[20:15] <Austneal> it does
[20:15] <Trevor69420> how so
[20:15] <Trevor69420> ?
[20:15] <Algern0n> i'm getting a message at the boot stating that it's waiting for my Network Configuration
[20:15] <shaneo> windows sucks and this isnt the place for tgat
[20:15] <Austneal> but this VPN client works on windows =P
[20:15] <fairuz_>  Hi, right now my /opt is mounted on /dev/sda1 and it's full. I have a lot of space on /dev/sda2. Can I change /opt to be mounted on /dev/sda2? Thanks
[20:15] <Algern0n> then i get another one that says Waiting 60 seconds more
[20:15] <Trevor69420> austneal what vpn client?
[20:15] <Algern0n> anyone have a fix on that?
[20:15] <mynameisdeleted> hi
[20:15] <Austneal> http://privatetunnel.com/ <== that one
[20:15] <shaneo> warfaren:hmm yeah its installed ima purge it and see what happens
[20:16] <Austneal> client / service, rather
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Austneal: use a different proxy, there are plenty of public and free proxies
[20:16] <CFHowlett> mynameisdeleted   change your nick plz
[20:16] <mynameisdeleted> you dont like it?
[20:16] <warfaren> shaneo: do that, it might solve it but really, you shouldn't need to remove totem from your system just to get flash content working.
[20:16] <shaneo> yeah no kidding
[20:16] <shaneo> idk how this happened
[20:16] <Trevor69420> austneal well they clearly say they dont support linux
[20:16] <CFHowlett> mynameisdeleted  THIS is the last time I'll be typing your nick as it is at present...
[20:16] <warfaren> shaneo: there should be an option somewhere for picking your preferred flash player, i don't know where that is though
[20:17] <LjL> CFHowlett: know about Tab?
[20:17] <CFHowlett> LjL   sorry, IDK Tab
[20:17] <Austneal> I know this.... which is why I'm here. Trying to find an alternative for Linux
[20:17] <Trevor69420> only windows and mac
[20:17] <LjL> !tab | CFHowlett
[20:17] <Austneal> But, they say the profile file will work with any openVPN client
[20:17] <CFHowlett> LjL   didn't work with his name for some reason...
[20:17] <LoganShaw> thanks ubottu!
[20:18] <nameless12798> better?
[20:18] <LjL> nameless12798: not that it was bad before, either
[20:18] <CFHowlett> nameless12798   yes, ty.  so what's the ubuntu issue?
[20:18] <shaneo> warfaren: well it isnt showing totem but youtube is giving me an html5 error
[20:18] <nameless12798> any wayt o gtet gtk1 programs to compile like fsv?
[20:18] <fairuz_> anyone? :)
[20:18] <Trevor69420> austneal i dunno then... you can host a vpn at home if you wanted
[20:18] <marius1> shaneo: install adobe flash player
[20:19] <Trevor69420> i've never used any of the vpn tunnel services
[20:19] <warfaren> shaneo: hmm.. check http://www.youtube.com/html5 and check if you're using html5
[20:19] <Austneal> So are there any good openVPN clients that I could import this .ovpn file into?
[20:19] <Trevor69420> austneal yes openvpn is available for linux
[20:19] <warfaren> shaneo: so did you do apt-get remove --purge totem, or what?
[20:19] <Trevor69420> but u need to use their client
[20:19] <shaneo> marius1: yes flash is installed see the whole conversation please
[20:19] <shaneo> yes
[20:19] <Trevor69420> which is openvpn but has all the keys as part of the install... they dont make it for linux
[20:20] <Trevor69420> they dont allow linux, iOS, or android devices
[20:20] <Driedman_> Does anyone in here use backtrack?
[20:20] <CFHowlett>   shaneo what version of ubuntu?
[20:20] <marius1> shaneo: sorry didnt see it, well i had the same problem until i installed again flashplayer
[20:20] <tsunami_> my ubuntu is collapsing I dont know why as I did not messed around, first it was xfwm4 that started going crazy, I did xfwm4 --replace and it was ok. BUT after that I cant access other partitions on my hard disk and my keyboard is completely dis-configured... It is just colapsing.         Anybody has a suggestion or should I just reinstall ubuntu again?
[20:20] <zykotick9> !backtrack | Driedman_
[20:20] <CFHowlett> !backtrack|Driedman_
[20:20] <warfaren> shaneo: alright if this doesn't work out for you now, try sudo apt-get remove --purge adobe-flashplugin && sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[20:20] <Trevor69420> openvpn clients are available for all OSes Austneal but they have to create the client themselves to get it to work
[20:20] <shaneo> CFHowlett, 11.10
[20:20] <warfaren> that oughta reset things
[20:20] <Trevor69420> Austneal, you could set up openvpn server at home and then make your own vpn client for linux
[20:20] <Austneal> Well, i have this "profile" file with keys ans such in it
[20:20] <CFHowlett> shaneo   see this maybe ... http://beginlinux.com/desktop_training/ubuntu/html5-on-ubuntu-1004
[20:21] <Trevor69420> Austneal, wont work
[20:21] <Driedman_> thank you zykotick9
[20:21] <Trevor69420> u need them to create the openvpn install for you
[20:21] <Trevor69420> those are encrypted keys
[20:21] <Austneal> but.... they say it will =/
[20:21] <Trevor69420> and the client will have it's own unique key
[20:21] <Trevor69420> well then try it, but i doubt it
[20:21] <shaneo> thanks CFHowlett and warfaren ok will do
[20:21] <Trevor69420> http://vpnreviews.net/tag/private-tunnel/
[20:22] <shaneo> Trevor69420, please use pastebin
[20:22] <nameless12798> I like that I have gtk3, and gtk2 compatibility, but ideally I'd like to be able to run any software
[20:22] <Treat1> Still having problems with my printer
[20:22] <Trevor69420> says they do not support linux, iOS, or android so no need to
[20:22] <Austneal> Do you think it would be possible to run the client through Wine or something?
[20:22] <Trevor69420> nope probably not austneal
[20:22] <Trevor69420> set up openvpn server at home
[20:22] <Austneal> ok, so dual boot windows it is
[20:22] <Trevor69420> then you can vpn into your home machine from your linux box
[20:23] <shaneo> CFHowlett, warfaren, ok all is good thank you so much
[20:23] <CFHowlett> shaneo   good luck.
[20:23] <warfaren> shaneo: awesome! :)
[20:23] <nameless12798> maybe usermode linux with some old distro installed is the best way to run gtk1 apps
[20:23] <nameless12798> and software no longer comaptible with ubuntu linux
[20:23] <Treat1> New drivers installed, check, pinged printers ip, check.....still not showing up as a network printer
[20:23] <shaneo> hope totem isnt needed for anything important
[20:23] <shaneo> :p
[20:23] <nameless12798> or chroot or something
[20:24] <CFHowlett> shaneo   videos only
[20:24] <warfaren> shaneo: probably not, in fact i think you can probably safely install it again without getting things messed up again
[20:24] <sukima> JoseeAntonioR: Stepped away, Yes I used the Ubuntu installer to install the root to /dev/sdc2 and told the boot loader to install to /dev/sdc. Once done I reboot and I get the grub rescue prompt with the error: unknown filesystem
[20:24] <Trevor69420> Austneal, u are correct in that it COULD work if you had the linux client but seeing that they dont make the vpn client package for your machine it wont work... thats why you can just set up your own vpn at home and tunnel from school to home
[20:24] <warfaren> shaneo: worst case scenario you know how to fix it again ;) just check your bash history or something :D
[20:24] <CFHowlett> warfaren   agreed
[20:24] <warfaren> :)
[20:24] <Trevor69420> shaneo, how is pasting a link to something relevant a call for pastebin
[20:24] <Trevor69420> ?
[20:24] <JoseeAntonioR> sukima Is your fat32 filesystem empty?
[20:24] <sukima> JoseeAntonioR: no
[20:24] <shaneo>  C-McRae CarlFK CasmoNL Caspercom CFHowlett CharlieSu CharminTheMoose Chelsea__ Chewtoy Chipzzz Chousuke Chris_0076 ChrisGagnon Church Clark008 CoasterMaster Cobi CobraKhan007 CobZo CoilDomain CoJaBo ColdFyre Commander1024 Companion CoralGausman CoreSwitch Corey CorpX CPhoenix Crash_O-D CrazyEddy Creamz_ Croon Crypticfortune Cubbur Cube`` Cueball Cyber_Akuma CyberSix
[20:24] <shaneo>  C-McRae CarlFK CasmoNL Caspercom CFHowlett CharlieSu CharminTheMoose Chelsea__ Chewtoy Chipzzz Chousuke Chris_0076 ChrisGagnon Church Clark008 CoasterMaster Cobi CobraKhan007 CobZo CoilDomain CoJaBo ColdFyre Commander1024 Companion CoralGausman CoreSwitch Corey CorpX CPhoenix Crash_O-D CrazyEddy Creamz_ Croon Crypticfortune Cubbur Cube`` Cueball Cyber_Akuma CyberSix
[20:24] <FloodBot1> shaneo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <warfaren> ouch
[20:25] <Companion> ?
[20:25] <Trevor69420> i'm not gonna use pastebin to paste one line
[20:25] <warfaren> what was that about lol
[20:25] <Trevor69420> !pastebin
[20:25] <shaneo> thats not a link
[20:25] <Trevor69420> what i posted was a link
 http://vpnreviews.net/tag/private-tunnel/
 Trevor69420, please use pastebin
[20:25] <LjL> shaneo: don't do that please.
[20:25] <Companion> shaneo, whats up?
[20:26] <Trevor69420> that looks like a single line link not a mult-line text
[20:26] <shaneo> companion sorry was just repasting something some typed
[20:26] <Trevor69420> !pastebin > shaneo
[20:26] <onezerotwo> hi
[20:26] <ubuntu> hai
[20:26] <CFHowlett> onezerotwo   greetings
[20:26] <Trevor69420> thats for your paste
[20:26] <onezerotwo> greetings
[20:27] <Companion> shaneo, it seems you wanted to highlight allot of nicks
[20:27] <Companion> shaneo, thanks for waking me up tho :0
[20:27] <Driedman_> well #backtrack-linux isn't going to help me since you have to get voiced.
[20:27] <sukima> http://pastie.org/3474691
[20:27] <Driedman_> to talk
[20:28] <zykotick9> !register > Driedman_
[20:28] <tsunami_> can somebody give me a clue of what can I do?
[20:28] <Driedman_> zykotick9 I did register
[20:28] <shaneo>  C-McRae CarlFK CasmoNL Caspercom CFHowlett CharlieSu CharminTheMoose Chelsea__ Chewtoy Chipzzz Chousuke Chris_0076 ChrisGagnon Church Clark008 CoasterMaster Cobi CobraKhan007 CobZo CoilDomain CoJaBo ColdFyre Commander1024 Companion CoralGausman CoreSwitch Corey CorpX CPhoenix Crash_O-D CrazyEddy Creamz_ Croon Crypticfortune Cubbur Cube`` Cueball Cyber_Akuma CyberSix
[20:28] <shaneo>  C-McRae CarlFK CasmoNL Caspercom CFHowlett CharlieSu CharminTheMoose Chelsea__ Chewtoy Chipzzz Chousuke Chris_0076 ChrisGagnon Church Clark008 CoasterMaster Cobi CobraKhan007 CobZo CoilDomain CoJaBo ColdFyre Commander1024 Companion CoralGausman CoreSwitch Corey CorpX CPhoenix Crash_O-D CrazyEddy Creamz_ Croon Crypticfortune Cubbur Cube`` Cueball Cyber_Akuma CyberSix
[20:28] <FloodBot1> shaneo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <Companion> alright thats annoying me
[20:28] <Companion> hello pangolin
[20:28] <Trevor69420> ok kick him out now
[20:28] <Companion> ehhh tsunami_ whats the problem?
[20:28] <Trevor69420> he was already told to use pastebin
[20:28] <CarlFK> lol
[20:29] <LjL> Trevor69420: he was already kicked out before you asked.
[20:29] <tsunami_> hey companion! thanks, I will repeat:
[20:29] <tsunami_> my ubuntu is collapsing I dont know why as I did not messed around, first it was xfwm4 that started going crazy, I did xfwm4 --replace and it was ok. BUT after that I cant access other partitions on my hard disk and my keyboard is completely dis-configured... It is just colapsing.         Anybody has a suggestion or should I just reinstall ubuntu again?
[20:29] <Companion> Driedman_, this is #ubuntu not #back-track
[20:29] <ubuntu> can someone tell me how to make usb-install-disc-ubuntu on ubuntu cd live?
[20:29] <bLiNdRaGe> so i upgraded to ubuntu 11.10 and this started happening: http://pastebin.com/1xacKXDb
[20:29] <onezerotwo> i think ubuntu you can use pendrive linux tool
[20:29] <CFHowlett> ubuntu should be "startup disc creator" ...
[20:30] <onezerotwo> just google it
[20:30] <pangolin> !usb | ubuntu
[20:30] <onezerotwo> oh nevermind thats wrong
[20:30] <Companion> tsunami_, short version: You messed with a command you should not touch and now your partitions/permissions are fucked?
[20:30] <pangolin> Companion: no swearing please
[20:30] <P1rate> !Linuxlive
[20:30] <Companion> srry pangolin
[20:30] <ubuntu> thank you very much
[20:30] <Trevor69420> oh lol
[20:30] <P1rate> linux live creator is nice
[20:30] <P1rate> :)
[20:31] <tsunami_> nope, it just happened today when I turned on the pc, yesterday was ok
[20:31] <Trevor69420> man he just got on me to use pastebin cuz somehow when i wrote:  <Trevor69420> u need them to create the openvpn install for you
[20:31] <tsunami_> Companion: nope, it just happened today when I turned on the pc, yesterday was ok
[20:31] <Companion> tsunami_, always highlight some one who you're talking to :)
[20:31] <Trevor69420> that somehow qualifies me to use pastebin for a single line
[20:32] <Companion> tsunami_, paritions are able to fix and your keyboard also :)
[20:32] <tsunami_> Companion, just did
[20:32] <alkisg> I want to convert from hostname to ip from a script. `host mypc.local` and `dig mypc.local` don't lookup mdns hostnames, while `ping mypc.local` does. Is there any better tool to use for DNS resolution from the command line, or I would have to resort to sed'ing the ping output?
[20:32] <Companion> tsunami_, you fixed your partitions and keyboard layout?
[20:32] <tsunami_> Companion, thanks, what can I do?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: nslookup maybe
[20:33] <asteve> what makes dchlient3 run?
[20:33] <Companion> tsunami_, check pm
[20:33] <alkisg> ActionParsnip: I think that doesn't support mdns either :(
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: try it isall I can say
[20:34] <alkisg> ActionParsnip: yes I answered after I tried it
[20:34] <sukima> Can anyone help me get my head on strait with getting the grub bootloader to work with the following set up? http://pastie.org/3474691
[20:35] <Xeneth> In Xchat, is it possible (easy) to add time stamps to chat?
[20:36] <CFHowlett> Xeneth   it's in the settings - somewhere
[20:36] <zykotick9> Xeneth: i certainly remember that as being an option - but don't use xchat anymore
[20:36] <heinz> Xeneth: Settings, Preferences, [x] Enable time stamps
[20:36] <jonathon> Anyone here know if there is a program like Cheat Engine on Ubuntu?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Xeneth: https://toxin.jottit.com/xchat_strftime
[20:37] <zykotick9> jonathon: and what does "Cheat Engine" do?
[20:37] <lucariello79> !list
[20:37] <P1rate> zykotick9: it cheats :P
[20:38] <jonathon> zykotick9, Basically a hex editor for active processes
[20:38] <zykotick9> P1rate: is it also an engine? :p
[20:38] <Xeneth> ActionParsnip, Thanx.  I was looking right at it without seeing it.  :P
[20:38] <step_offset> Hi all
[20:39] <CFHowlett> step_offset   greetings
[20:39] <P1rate> Salut!
[20:39] <step_offset> I have a problem with Grub2 on an Ubuntu 11.10 x86_64 install
[20:39] <MrWizard> Hello World
[20:39] <JoseeAntonioR> !ask | step_offset
[20:39] <CFHowlett> MrWizard   hello back
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Xeneth: i don't even use xchat, i just found it online
[20:39] <MrWizard> CFHowlett: thankyou much, greetings
[20:40] <P1rate> ActionParsnip: Webchat?
[20:40] <jonathon> zykotick9 Cheat Engine, commonly abbreviated as CE, is an open source memory scanner/hex editor/debugger
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> P1rate: pidgin
[20:40] <CFHowlett> MrWizard   what's the ubuntu problem?
[20:40] <zykotick9> jonathon: ya i get the picture...
[20:40] <step_offset> for some strange reason, it has been automatically incrementing the value of part_msdos in Grub2
[20:41] <MrWizard> CFHowlett: same as before...pulseaudio sound issues, just figured i'd log in while i work at, got a couple a leads...
[20:41] <ssta> jonathon: you can attach gdb to a running process.  It's not very user friendly though
[20:41] <step_offset> each time I reboot, I get a rescue prompt, which I fix and then do a update-grub or grub-install, but the problem seems to persist, all help is appreciated
[20:41] <CFHowlett> MrWizard   keep on computing then.
[20:42] <Guest61241>  /part
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> step_offset: try reinstalling grub-pc
[20:43] <jonathon> ssta, That doesn't quite seem to be what I need...I don't think
[20:44] <step_offset> ActionParsnip: thanks, done. And then?
[20:44] <Driedman_> I ask for help in #backtrack-linux and that channel is full of trolls
[20:44] <step_offset> ActionParsnip: oh yes, it may be worth noting, the one change I have to my config, is an automatic change to my grub settings triggered by my dropping a JPEG into the /boot/ dir
[20:45] <sukima> step_offset: how do you fix a rescue prompt I'm in the same boat
[20:45] <CFHowlett> Driedman_   and we don't support bt here....
[20:45] <Driedman_> I KNOW
[20:45] <Driedman_> I feel as if no one even reads what I type at times
[20:45] <step_offset> sukima: type 'set' and then set those values appropriately
[20:45] <P1rate> Driedman_: what is your problem?
[20:46] <zykotick9> Driedman_: complaining about BT support is OT in this channel - what support here?  install ubuntu.
[20:46] <CFHowlett> Driedman_   see the backtrrack forums  http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/forum.php
[20:46] <zykotick9> s/what/want/
[20:46] <mikeey> On a Ubuntu Server 10.04, are these packages safe to remove: bind9
[20:46] <mikeey> bind9-doc
[20:46] <mikeey> bind9-host
[20:46] <mikeey> bind9utils
[20:46] <mikeey> fancontrol
[20:46] <FloodBot1> mikeey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:46] <mikeey> libsensors4
[20:46] <P1rate> zykotick9: lol its not like we are getting paid or something
[20:47] <Driedman_> I'm using backtrack on a virtual machine, operating system is linux, ubuntu
[20:47] <zykotick9> P1rate: don't support unsupported derivatives here please
[20:48] <separate> Having an issue with Banshee, wanted to check to see if there's a known fix before I attempt a bug report: Occasionally, on a song change, banshee will just quit. Haven't been able to duplicate when run from a terminal, so I don't have error messages to confirm, but does anyone know of this problem?
[20:49] <butch128> My Intel e1000e won't transfer faster than ~3MB/s on my gigabit network - any ideas?  Ubuntu 11.10
[20:49] <butch128> it was waaay faster on 10.04
[20:49] <macer1> separate: I'd recomment using Rhytmbox :P
[20:49] <macer1> recommend*
[20:50] <danielboston26> hi
[20:50] <yugandhar> Hi
[20:50] <danielboston26> which version of ubuntu will run on a powermac g3?
[20:51] <yugandhar> is openfire for LAN ?
[20:51] <macer1> danielboston, 10.04
[20:52] <separate> macer1: Well, I can also go switch to slackware, and I won't have any stability problems. :P I'm just comfortable with the setup, aside from this one issue.
[20:52] <separate> macer1: I have this weird, completely unjustified distaste for rhythmbox.
[20:52] <yugandhar> Travor69420: Are you there?
[20:52] <danielboston26> macer1 do you have any experince with this?
[20:53] <yugandhar> Hey Guys can anyone tell me is Openfire chat application is for LAN or WAN?
[20:53] <macer1> danielboston I am running 11.10 on Intel Mac :P But I know that there is 10.04 for PowerPC
[20:54] <macer1> that people reported to work on ppc macs
[20:54] <zykotick9> Trevor69420: ^^ lol
[20:54] <danielboston26> may i pm you?
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: could be for both if you open the ports and tell your clients to connect to the wan IP
[20:54] <macer1> yes, no problem :P
[20:55] <Trevor69420> yugandhar, IT"S FOR FREAKING LAN AND WAN
[20:56] <yugandhar> ActionParsnip:  I want this openfire use for only lan
[20:56] <yugandhar> we can use it right?
[20:56] <Trevor69420> YES
[20:56] <Trevor69420> JUST POINT THEM TO THE LAN IP
[20:56] <Trevor69420> sheesh
[20:56] <Trevor69420> it's only WAN if you make it WAN
[20:56] <Trevor69420> if you dont then it isnt
[20:57] <Trevor69420> simple as that
[20:57] <pilz> Where can I search packages online?
[20:57] <zykotick9> pilz: packages.ubuntu.com
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: it will work on LAN
[20:57] <pilz> zykotick9: thanks, could have tried that...
[20:57] <yugandhar> Trevor69420:  Hey please join this channel #Trevor60420
[20:57] <Trevor69420> or you can just message me yugandhar dont set up channels for two people
[20:58] <Trevor69420>  /msg Trevor69420 <message here>
[20:58] <Silverlion> anyone watching Trevor69
[20:58] <singingwolfboy> I've found a python module I can install using apt-get, but it only installs for Python 2.7. I have Python 2.5 installed on my system using apt-get; how can I get the module to install in Python 2.5?
[20:59] <guntbert> Silverlion: wrong window? ;-)
[20:59] <LjL> Trevor69420: there is no need to SHOUT and get upset...
[20:59] <patrunjel> Hi. Is it ok if I use the same swap space for Ubuntu and another distro (not Debian-based)?
[20:59] <Silverlion> guntbert: i didnt type this at all
[20:59] <Trevor69420> LjL sorry i was getting frustrated repeating the same thing
[21:02]  * CFHowlett *Puts on the harp music, lights incense and prays the everyone will just ... chillax.*
[21:03] <CFHowlett> !test>me
[21:05] <Trevor69420> god this is gonna be a long time to explain this
[21:05] <Trevor69420> he doesnt even know if he has a router
[21:05] <nathaneltitane> :)
[21:06] <StevenCodes221> ok how would I check in windows if I can connect to my ssh server
[21:06] <zykotick9> Trevor69420: regret the out of repo suggestion yet?
[21:06] <P1rate> StevenCodes221: use putty
[21:06] <Trevor69420> zykotick9, that's not even the half of it
[21:06] <Trevor69420> trying to just get java installed
[21:06] <StevenCodes221> P1rate:  I try but my host wont give me the damn ip
[21:07] <jeremiah_gatong> check if the sshd is running, port 22 should be open, use nmap
[21:07] <jeremiah_gatong> then us putty to connect
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_gatong: you can telnet to the port to see if it is listening
[21:08] <jeremiah_gatong> yup
[21:09] <TehAndrewRyan> I'm having an issue viewing an updated version of our forums. I've flushed my DNS, cleared browser cache and cookies, tried with a different browser, reset my router, but it still shows the old page when I try to view it. Any ideas/suggestions?
[21:10] <step_offset> TehAndrewRyan: you using a proxy?
[21:11] <MrWizard> Turn JS on?
[21:11] <TehAndrewRyan> I'm not, step_offset. In fact I'm not at home, and I had this exact issue at home (forums not updating, even though I flushed my DNS) but I was able to see it after connecting with another IP
[21:11] <step_offset> TehAndrewRyan: but are you using the same computer each time?
[21:11] <TehAndrewRyan> step_offset: Or well, I was able to view it where I'm now, which is another IP
[21:11] <TehAndrewRyan> step_offset: I tried on two computers, didn't work on any of them
[21:11] <step_offset> TehAndrewRyan: and I must ask the obvious question, how do you know it's not 'updated', define 'updated'
[21:11] <TehAndrewRyan> step_offset: And right now I'm just on one computer, yes
[21:12] <TehAndrewRyan> step_offset: Hm, we had an old host that died on us, our admin set up a temporary site with another host, but now our primary host is back up again.
[21:12] <TehAndrewRyan> step_offset: And I can't see the old page anymore
[21:13] <TehAndrewRyan> step_offset: Others claim that they're able to view the page after flushing their DNS, I don't seem to be able to no matter what I try
[21:14] <TehAndrewRyan> step_offset: And you know, not being able to view your own forums isn't a pleasing fact.
[21:14] <step_offset> TehAndrewRyan: So you had a   HOSTNAME served in scheme like:  HostA---site_a   HostB---site_b   with site_a  being the current desired target? but when you request HOSTNAME, you're served site_b ?
[21:14] <onezerotwo> i just installed vmware workstation so i can run ubuntu inside windows
[21:15] <step_offset> TehAndrewRyan: if you don't mind, and it's public, msg me the hostname
[21:15] <TehAndrewRyan> step_offset: Exactly. Because the old and new sites were using the same address, but I'm automatically redirected to the last one I visited, even though it's not the "updated" one
[21:16] <Xeneth> While not 100% Ubuntu:  On my Ubuntu server, what is the best linux if I want to vitalize each service in it's own virtual server?  Not sure how much this will tax the machine.
[21:16] <TehAndrewRyan> step_offset: You mean the URL to the site?
[21:16] <step_offset> yes
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Xeneth: there is no single best solution for anything
[21:17] <Xeneth> ActionParsnip, ok, any suggestions then?
[21:18] <Amoz> Xeneth, hi tech stuff, but basically hosting companies use OpenVZ for virtual private servers
[21:18] <Amoz> and Xen
[21:18] <spanner3003> hi i'm on xubuntu 11.10 64bit and i want to updrate my cpu
[21:19] <spanner3003> can i just pull out the old one install the new one and restart?
[21:19] <Amoz> spanner3003, update your central processing unit?
[21:19] <spanner3003> yes Amoz
[21:19] <spanner3003> i know what a cpu is
[21:19] <Amoz> spanner3003, if it's the same socket then there should be no problem afaik
[21:19] <guntbert> spanner3003: yes, you can
[21:19] <StevenCodes221> is ssl like ssh ?
[21:20] <Amoz> StevenCodes221, no
[21:20] <StevenCodes221> damn
[21:20] <guntbert> spanner3003: from the OS point of view - I didn't talk about sockets and the like
[21:20] <Xeneth> Amoz, This is inside my house.  The reason I want to vitalize it is: 1. to separate the different services, and 2. so that I can get some experience with virtual servers.
[21:20] <spanner3003> ok thank you amox guntbert
[21:21] <Amoz> Xeneth, if you want an "easier" solution I suppose virtualbox should be an option as well
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> spanner3003: should be fine, go for it
[21:21] <spanner3003> k got you thanks all
[21:22] <Xeneth> Amoz, Does virtualbox have a daemon?
[21:22] <Xeneth> Amoz, No GUI on the server.
[21:22] <Star_Light> I want to take some general informations in order to create my forum.... is there any proper channel for that?
[21:23] <Star_Light> information*
[21:23] <Amoz> Xeneth, virtualbox can be cli only
[21:23] <Silverlion> Star_Light: what kind of information?
[21:23] <StevenCodes221> dude i haveispconfig theres gotta be ssh
[21:24] <Star_Light> Silverlion,  for instance... I want to ask some details for the domain name
[21:24] <Xeneth> Amoz, Not the one I am use to, but I'll look into it.
[21:24] <Xeneth> Amoz, Thanks
[21:24] <Trevor69420> anyone know what repo needs to be added to the sources.list file to get sun java installed on 10.10
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: its not packaged
[21:24] <Amoz> Trevor69420, maverick?
[21:24] <Trevor69420> lucid
[21:24] <Amoz> 10.04 then
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: what is the output of:  uname -m
[21:24] <Trevor69420> yes
[21:24] <Trevor69420> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner
[21:25] <Amoz> Trevor69420, not being unhelpful but, have you tried google it? :)
[21:25] <P1rate> Trevor69420: what do you want the java for? a guy yesterday was asking about java 1.6 for armitage
[21:25] <Trevor69420> amoz yes of course lol
[21:25] <Silverlion> Star_Light: no channel that i know of
[21:25] <Trevor69420> i'm trying to get for a requisite to something else
[21:26] <Silverlion> Star_Light: but i can be mistaken
[21:26] <Trevor69420> ActionParsnip, sorry... i686
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: sweet, gimme a sec
[21:26] <Trevor69420> k thanks
[21:26] <Star_Light> Silverlion,  no problem my friend and thank you
[21:26] <Star_Light> may you know something ???
[21:27] <Silverlion> Star_Light: just ask ^^ i think the channel will try to help at its best
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/install32bitJava; chmod +x ./install32bitJava; sudo ./install32bitJava
[21:27] <Star_Light> Can I make an account here -> http://www.forumotion.com/ and then buy a domain ? for my forum
[21:27] <P1rate> Star_Light: do you want a free domain or you want to buy one?
[21:28] <P1rate> Star_Light:you have to choose your hosting company and look at their others :)
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: oracle java isn't packaged, but that script will install itfor you
[21:28] <Trevor69420> thanks ActionParsnip
[21:28] <Star_Light> P1rate,  first I want to take a ready forum platform and then I want to make my forum independent
[21:28] <Trevor69420> :-)
[21:28] <Star_Light> using a different domain
[21:28] <Trevor69420> trying it now
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: thats the way to install it the manual way but people seem to find it too hard
[21:29] <Trevor69420> thats not hard
[21:29] <Trevor69420> i just couldnt find it online lol
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: thats is MY script, its not very mentioned online
[21:29] <ericus> Is there any easy GUI way to access startup applications in 11.10?
[21:30] <ericus> Gnome Classic
[21:30] <nschuster> hi.  just installed ubuntu on my notebook and have a few questions.
[21:30] <P1rate> nschuster: like ?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> ericus: There is no classic in Oneiric
[21:31] <nschuster> it seems that my software centre has a very limited amount of apps avialable.  for example if i search 'world of goo' that program doesn't show up in the results
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> ericus: can you give the output of:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit;clear; pastebinit /etc/lsb-release
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> nschuster: should it be in the repos
[21:32] <ericus> ActionParsnip: I'm running gnome-fallback-session
[21:32] <ericus> not on that computer right now
[21:32] <ericus> but I HATE unity
[21:32] <Somelauw> I got wmii to work again. Unfortunately the version that ubuntu provided doesn't seem to contain a tray.
[21:32] <nschuster> repos?
[21:32] <ericus> I'd like to remove a bunch of startup apps
[21:33] <P1rate> nschuster: http://www.worldofgoo.com/dl2.php?lk=demo take a look it has a .deb package
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> ericus: run:  gnome-session-properties
[21:33] <dlentz> ActionParsnip, ubuntu actually refers to gnome3-fallback as "classic" even though that's the same name they used for gnome2 in natty
[21:33] <stephanb> Somelauw: does wmii contain a tray anyway?
[21:33] <ericus> ActionParsnip: I'll try, just gonna boot my laptop
[21:34] <ericus> ActionParsnip: On my WS I run 11.04, and I like that a lot better
[21:34] <Somelauw> stephanb: The newest version did. This version seems to contain an invisible tray, since nm-applet works, but it doesn't show a tray icon.
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> ericus: there are other DEs than gnome you know
[21:35] <stephanb> Somelauw: ah okay... i didn't look into wmii for some years ;)
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> ericus: xfce runs and looks a LOT like Gnome2
[21:35] <Somelauw> I like a tray, since I haven't figured ou how to make a wireless connection without nm-applet.
[21:35] <Somelauw> stephanb: What do you use?
[21:35] <ericus> ActionParsnip: Yes I know, but I'm so used to it
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> ericus: you can run all the gnome apps you use, in xfce too
[21:35] <ericus> tried XFCE
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> ericus: it even has the same menu layout
[21:35] <Somelauw> Maybe the tray is normally visible but just buggy on my laptop since I have been messing a bit.
[21:35] <stephanb> Somelauw: xfce.. but as a tiling manager i like awesome a lot
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: could try wicd
[21:36] <nschuster> so many available programs aren't going to be searchable from the software centre?  i have to go out and find them?
[21:36] <stephanb> ActionParsnip: just to get a tray icon?
[21:36] <stephanb> nschuster: that kind of bugs me too, but you can use "apt-cache search"
[21:37] <Somelauw> stephanb: I have tried awesome as well, but I like that in wmii I have more control over the windows.
[21:37] <ericus> ActionParsnip: gnome in 11.10 does not show all the startup applications, just "additional" onces
[21:37] <motst_> could anyone help me in installing ubuntu 64 bit on a sony vaio z series?
[21:37]  * dlentz is a synaptic holdout
[21:37] <nschuster> sorry stephanb.  i am not up on my computer lingo.  what is apt-cache search?
[21:37] <stephanb> nschuster: a command line utility to search software
[21:37] <exco_> gordon1234, http://pastebin.com/3QppUXbG for your benchmarklist
[21:38] <stephanb> nschuster: you use it like "apt-cache search WHATYOUWANTTOFIND"
[21:38] <nschuster> oh ok
[21:38] <nschuster> thanks
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> ericus: what startup thing do you want to remove or add?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> moises_: download the ISO, MD5 test it, burn it to CD and boot the CD.
[21:39] <zykotick9> motst_: does your sony have more then 4GB of RAM?
[21:39] <stephanb> nschuster: as i see now, synaptic is in the repos too, you can install that and get the old way of searching back
[21:39] <ericus> ActionParsnip: a lot, like bluetooth, ubuntu one etc
[21:39] <dlentz> gnome used to be somewhat more modular (gnome3 requires things like bluetooth and accessibility packages, yuck)
[21:40] <motst_> zykotick9: yes
[21:40] <mengu> hi.
[21:40] <zykotick9> motst_: ok, just checkin'
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> ericus: so you want to remove both of those?
[21:40] <gordon1234> exco_ have you the correct person?
[21:40] <mengu> my computer is an acer aspire 7750g and it has internal microphone. how do i enable and use it with ubuntu 11.04?
[21:40] <exco_> gordon1234, seems not
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> mengu: run:   alsamixer    is it unmuted?
[21:41] <CharminTheMoose> Is it possible for me to send the upstart output from tty7 to tty1?
[21:41] <gordon1234> exco_ you worries :-)
[21:41] <gordon1234> *no worries
[21:41] <motst_> zykotick9: very funny
[21:41] <ericus> ActionParsnip: just remove them from the startup applications, which was a lot easier in 11.04
[21:41] <ciccibu> ciao
[21:41] <nschuster> i think i have synaptic package manager installed already
[21:41] <ciccibu> !list
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> ericus: do you use ubuntuone at all?
[21:42] <ericus> no ActionParsnip
[21:42] <mengu> ActionParsnip: i see internal mic boost is red so i guess not muted. but sound recorder does not record my voice
[21:42] <zykotick9> motst_: i wasn't trying to be funny?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> ericus: then uninstall it...
[21:42] <mengu> it also does not detech when i plug my headphone's mic
[21:43] <sraecdiscr> sraecdiscr,
[21:43] <motst_> zykotick9: do you have any idea about the installation
[21:43] <Lars_G> Quick question, I'm booting a 10.4 server. It's checking the hdd for the times it's been mounted without check, or so it says, but either on the graphical screen (which I dissabled removing splash from grub) or the text console it says the disk wil be checked but no progress bar or feedback, is there any way to see the check is actually in progress?
[21:43] <ericus> ActionParsnip: but there's more, like bluetooth manager, print que applet, remote desktop, visual assistance and such
[21:43] <gaby> hello every body - can you guide me how to update to ubutnu 12.04 ?
[21:43] <stephanb> Lars_G: try ctrl+alt+esc
[21:43] <zykotick9> motst_: no - i was just going to suggest using 32bit if you had less then 4GB RAM.  Good luck.  Did you even mention what the issue is?
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> gaby  #ubuntu+1
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> ericus: if you look in ~/.config/autostart    you will probably find files to make thins autorun there
[21:44] <Somelauw> You probably got tired of people joining this channel and bashing on unity.
[21:44] <ericus> This is for my ultrabook ActionParsnip. The less daemons and services in the background, the better battery life
[21:44] <P1rate> Webchat sucks~
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: bashing on anything is fairly pointless
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> ericus: Lubuntu will make it last even longer, it is a lot lighter than Gnome and even XFCE
[21:45] <mengu> ActionParsnip: any ideas?
[21:45] <dlentz> mengu, i would try playing with model= keywords in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> Somelauw  please type /j #insultubuntu
[21:45] <Somelauw> MonkeyDust: Thanks
[21:45] <ericus> ActionParsnip: might be true, but it's a zenbook and I need a specific kernel
[21:45] <Somelauw> MonkeyDust: It is empty
[21:45] <dlentz> model=acer-aspire-7730g might be the closest, but idk
[21:46] <azriel> ok ok ok, ok? ok
[21:46] <stephanb> ericus: if its in ubuntu, it is in lubuntu too
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> mengu: try:  options snd-hda-intel model=laptop   in alsa-base.conf
[21:46] <Lars_G> stephanb: Nope, same screen saying hdd will be checked. nothing else
[21:46] <Kouen> hello
[21:46] <azriel> I need a program like fakewebcam, a way to take whats on my desktop (xubuntu 11.10) and use it as a webcam
[21:46] <phpn00b> hello
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> ericus: lubuntu just uses a different DE, its the same OS underneath
[21:47] <Somelauw> Why not #insultunity?
[21:47] <mengu> ActionParsnip: and then restart pulseaudio?
[21:47] <ericus> stephanb or ActionParsnip; can I compile a 3.x-kernel and use it in 11.04?
[21:47] <stephanb> ericus: sure, why not
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> mengu: you'll need to unload then reload the module
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ericus: you could but you won't be supported here
[21:47] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: What's the wm/de on lubuntu?
[21:48] <guntbert> !kernel | ericus
[21:48] <ericus> another thing I dont like about 11.10 is the new system settings
[21:48] <stephanb> Lars_G: lxde
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: openbox/LXDE
[21:48] <dlentz> mengu, use sudo alsa force-reload
[21:48] <ericus> getting more and more like windows control panel
[21:48] <Lars_G> thanks
[21:48] <StevenCodes221> anyways to get local users on an ssh
[21:48] <Lars_G> stephanb: wanna see what I have?
[21:48] <azriel> I need a program like fakewebcam, a way to take whats on my desktop (xubuntu 11.10) and use it as a webcam
[21:48] <Trevor69420> ActionParsnip, is there a way to tell if java installed correctly?
[21:48] <azriel> yes by using it
[21:48] <ericus> java.com
[21:49] <thibault> #polyglot
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: java -version    will tell you what java is doing the work
[21:49] <stephanb> Lars_G: what do you mean?
[21:49] <Trevor69420> thanks azriel didnt think of that
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml   will test it i your browser
[21:49]  * Trevor69420 smacks azriel with a wet fish
[21:49] <Trevor69420> it's a server distro
[21:49] <Kouen> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/`lsb_release -cs`.list –output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list; sudo apt-get -q update; sudo apt-get –yes -q –allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring; sudo apt-get -q update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[21:49] <Kouen> what does it do this command????
[21:49] <Kouen>  
[21:49] <FloodBot1> Kouen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:50] <Trevor69420> no gui to play with lol
[21:50]  * azriel derps hard
[21:50]  * azriel derps hard
[21:50] <azriel> I need a program like fakewebcam, a way to take whats on my desktop (xubuntu 11.10) and use it as a webcam
[21:50] <Lars_G> stephanb: http://imgur.com/5JjqI
[21:50] <Kouen> sorry
[21:50] <Trevor69420> i'm helping yugandhar with openfire and just getting a dependency issue with java
[21:50] <azriel> I need a program like fakewebcam, a way to take whats on my desktop (xubuntu 11.10) and use it as a webcam
[21:50] <mengu> ActionParsnip: dlentz: changing model to laptop didn't work. it was audio.
[21:50] <azriel> herp :3
[21:51] <stephanb> Lars_G: sorry, no idea how to resolve this
[21:51] <P1rate> !patience
[21:51] <azriel> deeerp
[21:51] <Lars_G> stephanb: thanks
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> mengu: ok then change the line again, there are lots of examples online
[21:51] <Lars_G> Anybody else? how can I check disk is actually being checked there and not just stuck? please
[21:52] <guntbert> azriel: don't be annoying please
[21:52] <Somelauw> azriel: Using google I found http://sourceforge.net/projects/webcamstudio/
[21:52] <dlentz> mengu, you mean model=audio ?
[21:52] <azriel> i need to get the gstreamer0.10 plugins ugly multiverse
[21:52] <Somelauw> Hope that helps
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[21:52] <azriel> found that an hour ago i was hoping for an alternative
[21:53] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: How can I run it? I have no getty up yet, this is part of init, probably before the root rotation from ramdisk
[21:53] <delinquentme> I'm looking for a *functional* tutorial on shell scripts ... basically I need a REALLY simple operation ( appending to the classpath var ) and I'd like to learn how to do it really quickly :D
[21:53] <stephanb> delinquentme: you dont even need a shellscript for that
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: ok, what is the icon in the top left?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Kouen: adds the medibuntu ppa and imports its key
[21:54] <delinquentme> stephanb, your name is really hard to select in this chat room .. anyways I need to do it there because this is on a deploy
[21:54] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: Excuse me? in my capture?
[21:54] <delinquentme> IE theres a shell script which is being run on deploy to heroku so I need to modify that to include the classpaths
[21:54] <_Marcus> Hello
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: yes, the green blob..
[21:54] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: This is a system running on XenServer, the icon is part of my workstation, I'm connected to that system via vnc
[21:54] <Kouen> there is no suspicious code on the sentence??? i found it on a blog and to avoid damages i didnt run
[21:54] <azriel> sooo
[21:54] <azriel> yeah
[21:55] <azriel> I need a program like fakewebcam, a way to take whats on my desktop (xubuntu 11.10) and use it as a webcam
[21:55] <stephanb> Kouen: you should be able to run this safely
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Kouen: no, and its the same as the medibuntu repo how to
[21:55] <Kouen> thanks stephanb
[21:55] <stephanb> azriel:  please dont spam
[21:55] <danileigh79> !patience | azriel
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: what do you do on the remote system?
[21:55] <azriel> i am not spamming
[21:56] <azriel> who are you ppl that i should care what you think?
[21:56] <Kouen> another question..... i am having troubles with myphpadmin
[21:56] <Kouen> it notice me that failed control user
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> azriel: we care you are not following the guidelines
[21:56] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: Boot it
[21:56] <stephanb> azriel: thank god there is a feature on irc which is called "ignore"
[21:56] <Kouen> or something like that
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: surebut when you are on the system, what do you do?
[21:56] <azriel> you pl are stupid and useless
[21:56] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: Says disk needs to be checked during boot, I have no way of checking it's actually do.
[21:56] <azriel> *ppl
[21:56] <danileigh79> !off-topic | azriel
[21:56] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: It's a server, several services on it.
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> !fsck | Lars_G
[21:57] <rasusto> someone sounds mad
[21:57] <Pici> danileigh79: Thats not helpful.
[21:57] <azriel> get fucked
[21:57] <Pici> azriel: Those are the rules of this channel, if you can't follow them, then you'd probably be better off finding support elsewhere.
[21:57] <Trevor69420> ActionParsnip, yugandhar is getting "java version "1.7.0_03"
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> gone, thankfully
[21:57] <Trevor69420> as the output
[21:57] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: I would preffer to have the fsck run, and I can't do it during normal operation since it's the root
[21:57] <Trevor69420> it should be Java 6
[21:57] <stephanb> Pici: i think with this attitude he wont get it anywhere else either
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: cool, then its in
[21:57] <Trevor69420> at least as far as I know
[21:57] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: I can set fastboot, it's a nice idea, thanks, but, I'd love to have it run and be able to check it IS running
[21:58] <delinquentme> How do I append in a shell script? anyone know?
[21:58] <danileigh79> Pici: Not to be rude, but my period is easier to deal with than him
[21:58] <Pici> danileigh79: >>
[21:58] <_Marcus> azriel: You aren't being very nice. You should think about your attitude, and how it will affect people's idea of you.
[21:58] <Pici> danileigh79: There are better ways of dealing with problem users than giving them worthless links.
[21:58] <Pici> _Marcus: they're gone.
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: then you willneed to physically attend the server to boot livecd and fsck in livecd
[21:58] <_Marcus> Oh.
[21:58] <Pici> Anyway, back to support.
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: is 1.7 not going to work?
[21:59] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: It's hard to phisically attend a virtualized server. thanks anyhow.
[21:59] <stephanb> delinquentme: something like $VARIABLE = $VARIABLE + "foobar" of course this is pseudocode but it should workl
[21:59] <Lars_G> I'll use fastboot for now
[21:59] <Trevor69420> ActionParsnip, no the package specifically requires 6
[21:59] <danileigh79> Pici: I didn't give any worthless links... I merely activated ubottu when he wouldn't stop asking the same question over and over 15 seconds apart... I wasn't the only person to hit him with the patience bot
[21:59] <delinquentme> stephanb, i think I've found something
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: I'd try it with 1.7. If not you can always pull down 1.6 and install in the same manner
[22:00] <Trevor69420> ActionParsnip, tried it wouldnt work it wont even install
[22:00] <Kouen> La conection for controluser, as defined in config failed., thats the message of phpmyadmin
[22:01] <delinquentme> stephanb, do you know what the " relative " path selector looks like   ?   is it "./some_file_in_same_directory"
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: then reverse the install and you can grab 1.6, its the same method
[22:01] <stephanb> delinquentme: yeah, it is "." and ".."
[22:02] <Trevor69420> so to uninstall run that script again?
[22:02] <Trevor69420> or is there an uninstall argument i should be using
[22:03] <Trevor69420> and also where do I pull the java 1.6 from
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: no the script installs the java
[22:03] <libryder> E: Couldn't find package sun-java-jdk
[22:03] <Trevor69420> ok... so to uninstall it then?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: read the script and reverse the changes from bottom to top....
[22:03] <libryder> i added archive.canonical to my sources list and still can't find the sun package
[22:04] <Trevor69420> grrr... remember this is yuganhar we;re talking about haha
[22:04] <Trevor69420> hold on i'm gonna nned to work on this later
[22:04] <libryder> oops, the error is E: Package sun-java6-jdk has no installation candidate
[22:04] <xangua> libryder: sun/oracle java is no longer on ubuntu repository
[22:05] <silidan> hi, what programs are available to find out which ip adress spams me with a constant data flow in ubuntu?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> libryder: its not packaged anymore
[22:06] <StevenCodes221> Oh ok What if I have an rsa key how would i use that ?
[22:07] <velko> StevenCodes221, what are you trying to do?
[22:07] <StevenCodes221> velko ssh to my server
[22:09] <velko> StevenCodes221, you have to copy the content of the file ssh-rsa.pub into the file .ssh/authorized_keys on the server
[22:10] <StevenCodes221> velko:  I got the authorized key from the server
[22:11] <velko> StevenCodes221, i'm not sure i understand what you have done. the server needs to know that your client station (the one for which you have generated the rsa key) is allowed to connect. for this reason you have to copy your public key to the server
[22:12] <StevenCodes221> velko where would I find it ?
[22:13] <velko> StevenCodes221, you just told us that you have an rsa key. i presumed that you generated this key on the computer from which you are trying to connect to the server. right?
[22:13] <StevenCodes221> velko mmhmm
[22:14] <Trevor69420> i wonder if there's an opensource alternative to citrix
[22:14] <Trevor69420> something under the GNU would be nice too
[22:18] <THXel> hey people i have a problem with edubuntu
[22:19] <velko> StevenCodes221, sorry i'm experiencing networking issues. i don't know if you have talked to me in the meanwhile
[22:19] <drounse> how do i make minecraft.jar executable?
[22:19] <nibbier> drounse, just run java with it?
[22:20] <drounse> nibbier it says it is not marked as executable
[22:20] <sun_devil> I do a ps to see my processes running, but does anyone know how to write this to a file ?
[22:20] <Trevor69420> drounse chmod + x <filename> perhaps?
[22:20] <StevenCodes221> velko mind a PM ?
[22:20] <nibbier> drounse, java -jar mineraft.jar ?
[22:20] <nibbier> sun_devil, ps > /path/to/file
[22:21] <SockPants> hi
[22:21] <SockPants> i'm in gnome classic
[22:21] <SockPants> and i'm trying to install a theme
[22:21] <SockPants> but there is nowhere to do this
[22:21] <velko> StevenCodes221, generally not. but others won't be able to benefit from this knowledge or not be able to help also if i get stuck
[22:21] <SockPants> in the appearance window there is only a drop-down box for existing themes
[22:21] <SockPants> where do I put the theme?
[22:21] <GASSYPOOTS> this is the lagest irc channel
[22:21] <drounse> Trevor69420 thank you that worked
[22:22] <virgilio> ?
[22:22] <macmartine> I'm trying to remove a user, but when I try to, it says the suer is logged in. But they aren't listed when I try to view who is lgged in with 'users'. Any ideas?
[22:22] <Trevor69420> np drounse
[22:22] <GASSYPOOTS> suer?
[22:22] <macmartine> *user
[22:22] <StevenCodes221> velko then uhh well what do i do after I have the rsa key ?
[22:22] <_Marcus> GASSYPOOTS: He meant user.
[22:22] <Trevor69420> macmartine, try the command "finger"
[22:22] <GASSYPOOTS> command prompt i guess
[22:22] <gu3_> sun_devil you can rs aux|vim
[22:23] <Trevor69420> do u see the user listed there with a TTY?
[22:23] <macmartine> Trevor69420: tjhey aren't listed there either
[22:23] <Trevor69420> stramge
[22:23] <Trevor69420> reboot ;-)
[22:23] <RedWar> HI guys. What is the channel for Ubuntu-Studio?
[22:23] <Trevor69420> jk
[22:23] <_Marcus> !terminal > GASSYPOOTS
[22:23] <velko> StevenCodes221, let's do it step by step. first i assume there is somewhere a configured and running ssh server to which you want to connect. right?
[22:24] <sun_devil> in (1) command?  write processes of current user to a file?
[22:24] <StevenCodes221> velko yup
[22:24] <GASSYPOOTS> realy a bot
[22:25] <GASSYPOOTS> well you can
[22:25] <velko> StevenCodes221, then you generated an rsa key on your client machine - the machine from which you are trying to access the server
[22:25] <sun_devil> I do a ps to see the current processes just can
[22:25] <StevenCodes221> velko nope got it from the server
[22:26] <sun_devil> I do a ps to see the current processes and just want to write to file
[22:26] <velko> StevenCodes221, ok so go ahead an generate a key on your client machine
[22:26] <StevenCodes221> kk
[22:26] <StevenCodes221> done
[22:26] <nibbier> sun_devil, i dont understand you. you can generally redirect console output to a file by using > or to a command by using | or attach to a file by using >> just craft the command as you wish and redirect to a file of your liking
[22:26] <SockPants> Where can I install themes in Gnome Classic? It isn't in the appearance menu.
[22:26] <StevenCodes221> kk velco
[22:27] <velko> StevenCodes221, this creates two files: id_rsa and id_rsa.pub. the first is your private key and the second is the public key
[22:27] <StevenCodes221> alright
[22:27] <trism> SockPants: in oneiric, extract them to the ~/.themes directory (which you may need to create first), then select the theme in gnome-tweak-tool
[22:27] <velko> StevenCodes221, in order for the server to allow you to connect it have to know about your public key
[22:27] <StevenCodes221> k
[22:28] <velko> StevenCodes221, you do this by copying the content of the public key into the file .ssh/authorized_keys on the server
[22:28] <trism> SockPants: or icon themes into ~/.icons/
[22:28] <StevenCodes221> gotcha velco Do i have to change it any ?
[22:28] <SockPants> trism: i just realized i might have gnome 3 installed thinking it was gnome 2
[22:28] <SockPants> trism: how do i make sure?
[22:28] <macmartine> Trevor69420: I rebooted, and same thing. Still says user is logged in. And they aren't listed in 'finger'
[22:28] <velko> StevenCodes221, i don't understand your question
[22:29] <trism> SockPants: apt-cache policy gnome-panel;
[22:29] <StevenCodes221> velko one tutorial i read said you had to change the ket around before itll work
[22:29] <__machine> on a fresh install of 10.04 lts, i installed mysql-server ... but mysql isnt running and in /etc/init there is mysql.conf.disabled ... why is it disabled by default?
[22:29] <Trevor69420> may i ask what user this is?
[22:29] <Trevor69420> are you sure it's not youir current user lol
[22:29] <macmartine> yep
[22:29] <StevenCodes221>  ahh i see
[22:30] <velko> StevenCodes221, you have to "cat id_rsa.pub >> .ssh/authorized_keys" in order to append it's content to the end of the file
[22:30] <Trevor69420> macmartine, are there any cron jobs running as that user possibly?
[22:30] <macmartine> Trevor69420: It's just some user I made with ISPConfig, then removed, but apparenly they aren't completely gone. Um, shouldn't be, but I'll check
[22:31] <macmartine> Trevor69420: nope, all cron jobs are disabled
[22:31] <tyteen4a03> Hi, I got a kernal panic when booting 11.10 with the kernal 3.0.0-16. It says "VPS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)". 3.0.0-12 however works fine. Could this be my old computer or a bug?
[22:31] <StevenCodes221> velko im not on linux..
[22:31] <sun_devil> I did a ps > vi myprocesses.txt  and it created a file, but nothing in it?
[22:31] <randomDude> I need some advice on how to purge a broken postgres install : http://dpaste.com/708653/
[22:31] <Trevor69420> man macmartine i dunno strange
[22:31] <velko> StevenCodes221, this happens on the server, right? the key was generated on the client, the public part was transfered to the server and you do the appending on the server
[22:31] <macmartine> Trevor69420: I don't see anythig running under that user in 'top'
[22:31] <velko> StevenCodes221, what runs on the server?
[22:32] <StevenCodes221> velko i think i got it
[22:32] <StevenCodes221> tyvm
[22:32] <StevenCodes221> :D
[22:34] <velko> sun_devil, "ps > myproccesses.txt", not "ps > vi myproccesses.txt"
[22:35] <kz3> hello everyone
[22:36] <sun_devil> cool thanks, only took me an hour to do it
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> guys, in oneiric, ubuntu 3d, i cannot reset unity to defaults -- "(process:13906): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon" -- pastebinit is not possible -- "You are trying to send an empty document, exiting."
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> hints  tips?
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> it says: "GConf Error: No D-BUS daemon running" -- the guest session loads normally
[22:41] <Enemtee> hmm, i have a question, i've tried installing the ATI prop-drivers in 11.10 ubuntu. how can i check if they are properly installed?
[22:41] <macmartine> Trevor69420: Ah, I see they have 2 processes running: https://gist.github.com/1927644 and when I kill them they are recreated. How can I figure out what's starting them?
[22:42] <velko> Enemtee, if you know the names of the drivers you can list all loaded drivers with "sudo lsmod" and look or grep for them ("sudo lsmod | grep drivername")
[22:42] <genewitch> how do i update jaunty to a more recent version?
[22:42] <genewitch> i can't find jaunty under and dist directories anywhere
[22:43] <SockPants> i can't manage to install gnome tweak tool
[22:43] <SockPants> it says my version of gnome 3 is insufficient
[22:45] <SockPants> gnome-panel is 3.2.0 and the gnome-tweak-tool is 3.3.5
[22:45] <SockPants> how do i either get an older version of tweak tool or a newer version of gnome-panel (whichever is best)
[22:46] <xangua> SockPants: latest gnome-tweak-tool is 3.2 in oneiric
[22:46] <glebihan> SockPants, the version of gnome-tweak-tool in the repositories in 3.2.0
[22:46] <glebihan> SockPants, do you have a ppa enabled ?
[22:47] <SockPants> glebihan: i do
[22:47] <SockPants> it only lists that one too
[22:47] <SockPants> i'm not sure how to remove it tbh
[22:47] <glebihan> SockPants, then your solution is to remove the ppa and then reinstall the version from the repos
[22:47] <glebihan> SockPants, you can remove the PPA from the software sources tool
[22:48] <SockPants> when i try to open that from software center it closes again
[22:49] <glebihan> SockPants, weird... another solution would be to delete the files corresponding to that ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list.d and run "sudo apt-get update"
[22:50] <SockPants> thanks, great
[22:50] <SockPants> now that i have tweak tool, where can i find it?
[22:51] <glebihan> SockPants, it's labelled "advanced settings" in the menu
[22:53] <boxbeatsy> hi, does anyone know how i can split a 1M line text file into five files each containing 200K lines?
[22:54] <boxbeatsy> via command line?
[22:54] <sun_devil> If I had someone using my systems so send emails and I found them with the last command, how could I prevent this user from using my system.
[22:54] <glebihan> !info split | boxbeatsy
[22:54] <glebihan> boxbeatsy, well then split is a command...
[22:54] <glebihan> boxbeatsy, have a look at "man split"
[22:54] <sun_devil> hypothetical question
[22:54] <SockPants> glebihan: awesome, thanks! im all set for now
[22:54] <SockPants> later!
[22:55] <boxbeatsy> glebihan: oo interesting, thanks :D
[22:55] <glebihan> boxbeatsy, you're welcome
[22:55] <ikonia> sun_devil: if you don't know the answer to that question - shut down your mail server straight away
[22:55] <phpn00b>  23:55:32 up 1 day,  7:07,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.05
[22:55] <ikonia> sun_devil: then delete the users accounts
[22:55] <ikonia> sun_devil: then monitor your mail server for access and access attempts
[22:55] <ikonia> phpn00b: ?
[22:57] <sun_devil> userdel username ?
[22:57] <ikonia> sun_devil: yes, but shut your mail server down straight away
[22:57] <sun_devil> how would you shutdown your mail server, lets say pine
[22:58] <sun_devil> rm pine ?
[22:58] <hatop> pine is a mail "client"
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> yeah i thought that
[22:59] <hatop> sounds like someone was just sending in a regular way, not making you into a spam haven
[22:59] <sun_devil> userdel -r
[22:59] <Ignisss> ive got a weird thing, ive got this pc running ubuntu 11.10 and it has a raid volume in it wich i created from 4 drives (raid 5) with mdadm and named /dev/md0
[23:00] <Ignisss> however sometimes when i boot up it gets made /dev/md127 and mounted to /media/Mediaserver_ instead of /media/Mediaserver
[23:00] <Ignisss> wich obviously messes up a lot of programs using it, anyone know why its doing that?
[23:00] <Ian_Moone> I want to install KDE, but (call me picky) I don't want it to change the boot screen to Kubuntu. That happened with my laptop. How do I prevent this?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> Ignisss: add it in /etc/fstab and use its UUID
[23:01] <Ignisss> i did that actually but then when i boot up, ubuntu gives the message at boot
[23:01] <CT1> Having grown up in a generation that intuitively knows how to use things (computers/digital cameras/mp3 players... even VCRs) I'm unsure of what desktop environment, distribution or even OS, is "best" to introduce my 65 year old relative to.  Does anyone with real-life experience of acquainting computer illiterate elder-folk to the digital age have any tips? I'm comfortable with most of today's "environments" so from a support perspecti
[23:01] <Ignisss> going it cant find it wait or skip
[23:02] <Bastian_B> Hi, I am trying to find the name of the package that allow to take a window by its title bar, and to drag it to left or right side of the screen and it enlarges the window on the half side of the screen in ubuntu 11. Anyone know what is its named?
[23:02] <eSoul> CT1 - get them an iPad, if all they want is email, web, game-ish things, could be a good choice
[23:02] <Ignisss> o wait i didnt add the uuid in /etc/fstab just the name
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> Ian_Moone: install it as usual then run:  sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth    and switch it back....
[23:03] <Ian_Moone> @CT1: I seem to remember a DE for DSLinux that replicated XP. That is the only one that my 78 year-old relative would touch. Never got them to install it.
[23:03] <velko> Bastian_B, i think this is a feature of gnome3 shell. i'm not aware of a separate package you can install to do this
[23:04] <CT1> eSoul: $$ doesn't permit new hardware.  I have a laptop to spare.
[23:05] <eSoul> I would like to know if there is anything more I should do to get my sandy bridge graphics to work in 11.10.  System Info lists graphics as unknown and I didnt know if there was anything I need to do to make sure to get full support
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> eSoul: you may need an xorg.conf file if your monitor isn't reporting its abilities
[23:06] <george> how do I become su in ubuntu 10.10
[23:06] <eSoul> CT1 -- good point.   XP if you can get a cheap copy off the eBays.  Maybe 7 if the machine has the horsepower.  Anything else may be too much trouble for what its worth
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> eSoul: what release are you using?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> george: sudo -i
[23:06] <Ignisss> so id add "UUID=94eb891d:982c1cac:c7780c0e:bc15422d  /media/Mediaserver ext4 auto 0 0" to fstab instead of "/dev/md0 /media/Mediaserver ext4 auto 0 0" right?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> george: su isn't a user, so you cannot become it
[23:06] <george> thank you
[23:06] <eSoul> ActionParsnip -- 11.10, and its not the monitors abilities im worried about, im more intersted in hardware acceleration and the like
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> eSoul: if you have low res then you will probably need the file to set the display
[23:07] <eSoul> i have the full 1080p
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> eSoul: sounds like its doing what it should..
[23:07] <eSoul> I plugged in HDMI to my living room display
[23:08] <hatop> eSoul: what does sudo lsmod -l | grep intel show?
[23:08] <eSoul> ActionParsnip: thats good then.  I just didnt know if I was going to get hardware accelerated video playback, 3d graphics (even though I know the sandy bridge isnt for gaming) and the like
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> eSoul: if you can log in to Unity (not Unity2D) then its working
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> eSoul: you can game on sandybridge
[23:09] <eSoul> hatop: just a bunch of modules listed for intel hda sound
[23:09] <hatop> k
[23:09] <hatop> sounds like there is a kernel module not being loaded
[23:10] <hatop> and yes, if you can load regular unity it should be working
[23:10] <hatop> you can also try sudo glx_gears as a test of the mesaGL framework, but thats about all its good for.
[23:10] <eSoul> ActionParsnip: I mean I know its possible, but 3d gaming on sandy bridge is abysmal compared to nvidia/ati
[23:11] <eSoul> Well, it doesnt complain when I log in that Unity cant load, so I figure thats fine
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> eSoul: oh totally but it will work, its not a bad GPU, just not great
[23:11] <DonAllen> quick question, is there a beginner mail room?
[23:12] <eSoul> hatop -- what package supplies glx_gears. I dont seem to have it out of the box
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> DonAllen: how do you mean?
[23:12] <hatop> eSoul: hmmmm mine was installed by default. I'm not sure
[23:12] <Bastian_B> thanks <velko>
[23:13] <Ian-Moone> What are the packages for KDE that I need to install?
[23:14] <pedro> is there any utility to check the hard disk for errors?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> Ian-Moone: plasma-desktop will install a minimal KDE, or you can install kubuntu-desktop
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> pedro: fsck
[23:14] <tyteen4a03> Hi, I got a kernal panic when booting 11.10 with the kernal 3.0.0-16. It says "VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)". 3.0.0-12 however works fine. Could this be my old computer or a bug?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> pedro: the partition will need to be unmounted to be checked
[23:14] <broo> eSoul: looks like mesa-utils supplies it
[23:14] <pedro> ActionParsnip: but that one wont check it will give a warning for danger
[23:14] <pedro> ActionParsnip: exaclty
[23:14] <eSoul> thanks broo -- my google searching wasnt as fast as yours :-p
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> pedro: boot to liveCD
[23:15] <TheoMurpse> New to Ubuntu. How do I install (g)ddrescue? apt doesn't know where it is, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery says use "use any method" to install it, but Ubuntu Software Center doesn't have it, etc. How?
[23:15] <TheoMurpse> The link says it's called "gddrescue" but I can't find it.
[23:15] <luvsawti> is there any way install c++ in ubuntu ?
[23:15] <broo> eSoul: apt-file search /glxgears
[23:15] <eSoul> ahh, thanks for that broo
[23:15] <verone> bonjour
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> luvsawti: install build-essential
[23:15] <pedro> ActionParsnip: ok..i didnt understand some errors when doing the boot hdisk scan... i can quite understant what errors where that, i dont know if it reazon for alarm , the system is working ok
[23:15] <Somelauw> luvsawti: If you have gcc you can compile c++
[23:15] <TheoMurpse> luvsawti, Isn't that just gcc?
[23:15] <pedro> routine boot hd scan
[23:16] <Somelauw> which you probably have
[23:16] <verone> what it's french canal please ???
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> pedro: boot to liveCD and you can fsck there
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[23:16] <Somelauw> verone: #ubuntu-fr
[23:16] <eSoul> TheoMurpse -- I was just able to apt-get install gddrescue
[23:16] <jeremiah_gatong> hello all
[23:16] <Ian_Moone> Also, I did that on my laptop (sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth) and it changed it for shutdown, but when I booted again, it was back to kubuntu.
[23:16] <verone> think's
[23:16] <orkid> is sourceforge down?
[23:16] <eSoul> the app is actually ddrescue though after itsn installed
[23:16] <chipotle> how can i read ext4 partitions in ubuntu on win7?
[23:16] <luvsawti> does it will give output in dos mode ?
[23:16] <TheoMurpse> orkid, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.downforeveryoneorjustme.com%2F&ei=3g5MT_OCFs-LsALpy50K&usg=AFQjCNE3hWZpb0i32ZJjQ4oqEpEnDkHdBg
[23:17] <TheoMurpse> err sorry www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> luvsawti: how do you mean?
[23:17] <TheoMurpse> eSoul when I try I get "E: Unable to locate package gddrescue"
[23:17] <luvsawti> what do u mean ?
[23:18] <TheoMurpse> I just downloaded 11.whatever last night, so I have newest ubuntu
[23:18] <TheoMurpse> newest stable or whatnot
[23:18] <eSoul> TheoMurpse: apt-get update first maybe
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> luvsawti: what does "luvsawti: does it will give output in dos mode ?" mean?
[23:18] <eSoul> "apt-get update"
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> TheoMurpse: ubuntu 11 doesn't exist. Ubuntu 11.04 and Ubuntu 11.10 does
[23:18] <TheoMurpse> eSoul nope same thing
[23:18] <eSoul> i just did it will the latest 11.10
[23:19] <eSoul> gddrescue, right?
[23:19] <TheoMurpse> ActionParsnip, OK excuse me. 11.something. No idea how to check which one.
[23:19] <luvsawti> yes i had used c++ in window but now i am using ubuntu so do not about it ?
[23:19] <Ignisss> erm
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> TheoMurpse: well, it could be one of 2 releases.
[23:19] <TheoMurpse> luvsawti, are you aware c++ is just a compiler, not an IDE?
[23:19] <luvsawti> ya
[23:19] <eSoul> i have gddrescue in both 11.10 and 11.04
[23:19] <TheoMurpse> ActionParsnip, OK, should it matter which version when trying to install gddrescue? Apt doesn't seem to know where it is, even after sudo apt update
[23:20] <Ignisss> is there a reason why the UUID i get from mdadm --detail is different then from ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ ?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> luvsawti: if you install build-essential you will get a full ANSI standard C and C++ compiler
[23:20] <TheoMurpse> luvsawti, err, sorry meant it's a language, not an IDE
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> !info gddrescue
[23:20] <eSoul> TheoMurpse: its "apt-get update" and then "apt-get install gddrescue"
[23:20] <luvsawti> but how i will run it bcz i had install it !
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> TheoMurpse: its in the universe repo, do you have that enabled?
[23:21] <TheoMurpse> eSoul, "apt-get update" E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[23:21] <TheoMurpse> I am in the livecd righ tnow.
[23:21] <TheoMurpse> haven't installed to HDD since I'm trying to rescue the HDD with (g)ddrescue
[23:21] <eSoul> TheoMurpse -- you need to do "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install gddrescue"
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> TheoMurpse: do you have software centre open?
[23:22] <eSoul> im sorry, I forgot the sudos
[23:22] <TheoMurpse> esoul that is precisely what i did
[23:22] <TheoMurpse> ActionParsnip, Yes, I do.
[23:22] <TheoMurpse> no idea about enabling universal, never did that
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> TheoMurpse: thats why you got the error. Only ONE app can be accessinig the packages
[23:22] <adhytia> hello
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> TheoMurpse: you can enable the repos in software centre
[23:22] <TheoMurpse> ActionParsnip, Just closed USC it and tried again. Same error about unable to lock.
[23:23] <TheoMurpse> but with sudo it works fine to update
[23:23] <TheoMurpse> But still cannot locate gddrescue as a package.
[23:23] <luishasbon> Greetings dear readers, Its really great for me to join this chat again.
[23:23] <Yadira-007> i need to format a micro sd card,,i cant do anything,,is read only
[23:23] <eSoul> TheoMurpse -- give it a few more secs, and then after sudo apt-get update, do a sudo apt-get install gddrescue, you should be fine now
[23:23] <luishasbon> Today I have a really specific issue and I wonder If any of you could help me.
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> Yadira-007: do it in gparted, must be unmounted
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> TheoMurpse: enable the universe repo
[23:24] <virunga> Hi, what's the last kernel version i can install from repo?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> virunga: for which release?
[23:24] <TheoMurpse> OK didn't have universe. enabled and now doing apt-get update
[23:24] <luishasbon> I have just compiled OpenCV myself, I have the .so libraries in a folder, but it seems that my executables are not linking correctly to those  .so , how to link a dynamic library to an executable or viceversa? Thank you!
[23:25] <virunga> ActionParsnip, ubuntu 11.10
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic
[23:25] <TheoMurpse> OK thanks ActionParsnip esoul!
[23:25] <virunga> ActionParsnip, ok, thank you
[23:26] <David_> I got an iphone 4, should I upgrade to android for the ubuntu desktio app?
[23:26] <David_> desktop*
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> David_: ask in #ubuntu-phone
[23:26] <ikonia> David_: you can't
[23:26] <ikonia> alfredo: please use common sense
[23:26] <ikonia> oops
[23:27] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: please use common sense
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> funny how the iphone users want android now..
[23:27] <luishasbon> I have just compiled OpenCV myself, I have the .so libraries in a folder, but it seems that my executables are not linking correctly to those  .so , how to link a dynamic library to an executable or viceversa? Thank you!!!
[23:27] <David_> i never liked apple
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: what?
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: (23:27:19) The topic for #ubuntu-phone is: Discussion for all things regarding Ubuntu in smartphone form factor | http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone | This channel is logged to http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: where is my common sense lacking ?
[23:27] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: the product isn't released, there is zero information on it, "should I upgrade my iphone to android" "ask in #ubuntu-phone" - please.
[23:28] <StevenCodes221> is there any other way to send commands to the server other then SSH
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: thats the channel for discussion on the technology
[23:28] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: there is nothing to discuss, there is no information
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: people can still come together and discuss the technology though can't they. Hopes and thought etc
[23:29] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: he was asking "should I change my phone"
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: which is offtopic here, but the folks in there may be able to shed some light etc
[23:30] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: there is NO information, there is nothign to shed light with
[23:30] <Ignisss> is it a bad thing that i have both mdadm and disk utility on my ubuntu is it possible thats the reason for the different uuids and the wrong mounting?
[23:30] <Yadira-007> i dont have unmoubt option in context menu for unmount my SD card,,and when i try to unmount with gparted it stays just unmounting all day long :(
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: its the best I can recommend and the user wants info on the phone stuff, so its a good call
[23:30] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: sorry - no it's not
[23:30] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: how about "the websays says all the inforamtion there is"
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: so then, suggest a channel
[23:31] <ikonia> "the web page"
[23:31] <hoshi411> does anyone know of an irc channel where I can go to get general troubleshooting advice, non distro specific?
[23:31] <Pici> hoshi411: ##linux
[23:31] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: there isn't a valid channel as there is nothing to discuss as there is no inforamtion
[23:31] <hoshi411> Pici: thanks
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: thats like telling someone to 'google it' which is discouraged
[23:31] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: no it's not
[23:31] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: here is the official URL - that is ALL the inforamtion there is
[23:31] <yugandhar> Hi Everyone
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: i thought there was NO information?
[23:31] <Myrtti> GUYS
[23:32] <Myrtti> elsewhere
[23:32] <luvsawti> thank u frds !
[23:32] <yugandhar> Could anyone please help me on one issue?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: wassup?
[23:33] <yugandhar> i am getting YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: Domain not bind  when using sudo
[23:33] <yugandhar> Parsnip: i am getting this oftenly
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: can you run:  echo hostname:; cat /etc/hostname; echo resol.conf:; cat /etc/resolv.conf          pastebin the output please
[23:34] <Ian_Moone> Also, How do I change the mouse back to GNOME defaults?
[23:35] <StevenCodes221> Way to send commands other than ssh?
[23:36] <hoshi411> recently I have seen on youtube, ubuntu running on several tablet devices
[23:36] <hoshi411> inside chroot
[23:36] <hoshi411> anyone familiar with that?
[23:36] <yugandhar> Parsnip , ubuntuser1.inmobi.com  for echo $HOSTNAME
[23:37] <yugandhar> same for cat /etc/hostname
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: run it as ONE command, then pastebin the whole output
[23:37] <yugandhar> nameserver  192.168.1.1 for cat /etc/resolv.conf
[23:37] <eip56> Afternoon all
[23:37] <Ian_Moone> I have KDE on my laptop, and I reall like the GNOME mouse better. That's the only thing I can't figure out how to change back.
[23:38] <yugandhar> Parsnip:-  i am getting that problem in virtual machine os
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: fine, can you pastebin the output of the full command please
[23:39] <yugandhar> Parsnip, i have installed dns, dhcp, postfix, nfs, ftp and nis also...
[23:39] <yugandhar> all are working fine except nis
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: i thought the issue was sudo?
[23:40] <yugandhar> cho hostname
[23:40] <yugandhar> sorry
[23:40] <yugandhar> Parsnip .But Nis is not working
[23:41] <but> lisa
[23:41] <but> lista
[23:41] <hotbird> Hi
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> but: we don't file share here
[23:41] <yugandhar> Parsnip, i am not getting that msg with sudo if i stop the nis service
[23:42] <EvilResistance> but:  can we help you?
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: ahh I see
[23:42] <yugandhar> Parsnip, i will be very much happy, if you help on this, bcz i am getting this problem since two days
[23:43] <yugandhar> i reffered so many books and so many links in google. But no luck
[23:43] <goddard> how can I diff 2 folders recursively?
[23:44] <EvilResistance> !privmsg | butg
[23:44] <EvilResistance> !privmsg | but *
[23:44] <glebihan> goddard, diff -r
[23:44] <goddard> thanks :D
[23:45] <fearphage> what's the command to update/rebuilf the bamf.index?
[23:45] <goddard> glebihan: with that also diff file differences not just names?
[23:45] <glebihan> goddard, yes
[23:47] <Oer> fearphage, something wrong with your softwarecentre ?
[23:48] <luishasbon> I have just compiled OpenCV myself, I have the .so libraries in a folder, but it seems that my executables are not linking correctly to those  .so , how to link a dynamic library to an executable or viceversa? Thank you!
[23:48] <fearphage> Oer: i made my own .desktop file and it won't come up in unity finder or whatever it's referred to as
[23:49] <fearphage> Oer: i made put it in ~/.local/share/applications
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> fearphage: put it in /usr/share/applications   does it show then?
[23:51] <fearphage> ActionParsnip: is something scanning that folder for changes?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> fearphage: not sure, could log off and on...
[23:53] <fearphage> ActionParsnip: i could but there is a manual way to force a rebuild of the index. just trying to find out what it is. my googlefu is failing me
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> fearphage: thats the only way I can think of
[23:54] <fearphage> ActionParsnip: unless it was removed, there is a commandline way to initiate a scan
[23:54] <fearphage> i'll let you know if i re-find it
[23:55] <Gaming4JC> I'm having an issue with my graphics card, it won't startx :(
[23:55] <papachan> hi there
[23:55] <Gaming4JC> also I can't seem to get a mounted usb drive so I can't save the log... very problimatic...
[23:56] <Gaming4JC> I don't suppose anyone would know of an easy way to report the log? :/
[23:59] <Star_Light> ]synonyms laugh
[23:59] <Star_Light> ]synonyms fun