| mikodo | Question about using the Xubuntu Alternate installer (d-i) and choosing either the default install which gives one http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric-updates/xubuntu-desktop and choosing to install the Xfce meta-package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/xfce4 Will both work and be usable for a relative Noob? What is the difference between the two? I have only use Ubuntu with Gnome 2 before, and now want to go to the most pristine Xfc | 00:54 |
|---|---|---|
| mikodo | e, DE as I can manage, and still be not without a fair amount of "hand-holding by Xubuntu. I suppose I can then install all the other apps and dependencies, as I see fit, by going with the "Xfce meta-package install" | 00:54 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| mikodo | Quiet channel.. G'nite | 05:14 |
| * jarnos thinks automatic security updates don't work in 11.04: red icon of update-notifier is visible. | 08:11 | |
| jarnos | Is there some delay after automatic updates are started to be downloaded and installed after the red icon appears, or what is wrong? | 08:13 |
| jarnos | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/668077 | 08:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 668077 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Important security updates are not automatically installed" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 08:36 |
| Jan_- | hello, today when I tried to log in it just flashed black page with text and went back into the login screen | 09:33 |
| Jan_- | i solved it by deleting the old account and creating a new one, now the problem is that I saved the settings of the old account but the folder is encrypted and i dont know how to get the data back as it says i have restricted rights, i do have the text that i got when i encrypted it and the password that i used that account with, what kind of commands i need to know to access the folder? | 09:34 |
| nicofs | Somehow my window decorations crash on a regular basis... they look distorted an i can't activate any buttons on them or drag the window... any ideas? | 09:58 |
| nicofs | i deactivated composing and any other fancy stuff... | 09:59 |
| nikolam | Why "http" process locked both synaptic and update manager from updating and downloading updates (i suppose) for himself? | 10:14 |
| nikolam | I guess he wants to do update (automatic installing of security updates is on) | 10:15 |
| nikolam | But why user must lost control over update process during that time? | 10:15 |
| nikolam | and now, Every application that tries to list root dir ("/") freezes. | 10:17 |
| nikolam | eather it is xfce file manager, thunar, pcmanfm or simple "ls" command | 10:17 |
| TheSheep | nikolam: you can only have one installation process going at a time, otherwise you would get conflicts, for example if one process is installing someting that depends on a package that is being uninstalled by something else | 10:18 |
| TheSheep | nikolam: freezing on access to / sounds like a hardware problem with the disk | 10:19 |
| TheSheep | nikolam: does dmesg show any disk-related errors? | 10:19 |
| nikolam | guess update I have not started the process, it started itself and I can not control it. | 10:20 |
| nikolam | no disk errors except "resume from disk failed" form some days ago, that I presume is regular for ubuntu 10.04 after updates | 10:21 |
| nikolam | ok, will restart it, since i killed http process and apt is now <defunct> | 10:21 |
| nikolam | oh, no, http is back again on dowloading.. better kill net connection | 10:22 |
| nikolam | Seems like feature bug for unattended-update to me. | 10:23 |
| === Per4u32 is now known as Per4u3e | ||
| xsl | hello all... wen i create a new user and he loggs for the first time .. there are several folders created with reference on ~/config/user.dirs.dirs - How do i change the folders that are created? Where is that defined ? | 12:00 |
| Yancho_ | guys, i am installing xubuntu. after setting my keyboard layout etc, i clicked finish and now am in the Thank you screen. however the only button i have is skip. and the last msg is: ubuntu dbus[1160]: [system[ successfully activated service 'rg.freedesktop.UPower' - ad that was a msg of almost 2 hrs ago. | 12:26 |
| Os_Maleus | how about a restart of the machine? | 12:30 |
| Yancho_ | cheers Os_Maleus - was just afraid to do it in case it borkes the installation .. am now in my xubuntu | 12:32 |
| Os_Maleus | and if? ... if You are waiting more than two hours for Linux, then it is obviously hanging pretty high. ... considering that it happens during the installation. | 12:34 |
| allu2 | is it a known bug that xscreensaver doesn't support scandinavic marks in password? | 14:43 |
| GridCube | allu2, probably: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/793344 | 14:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 793344 in xscreensaver (Ubuntu) "Xscreensaver lock box is having problem with special characters (display)" [Undecided,New] | 14:51 |
| GridCube | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/828682 | 14:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 828682 in xscreensaver (Ubuntu) "In xubuntu, Xscreensaver login does not recognize the password with ascii characters" [Medium,Fix released] | 14:51 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| lol123 | Hallo | 14:55 |
| xsl | is it possible to define a panel to bottom instead of a x= y= positioning? | 16:29 |
| tsunami_ | hi there! | 16:38 |
| tsunami_ | I have a problem with my xubuntu | 16:39 |
| tsunami_ | everything was ok until today | 16:39 |
| tsunami_ | I think it has something to do with xfce | 16:39 |
| tsunami_ | all my windows lack the minimize, maximyze, close buttons | 16:40 |
| tsunami_ | all of them open in the top left corner | 16:40 |
| GridCube | tsunami_, press alt-f2 and write >xfwm4 --replace | 16:40 |
| tsunami_ | and they do not resize | 16:40 |
| tsunami_ | :))))) | 16:42 |
| baizon | tsunami_: yes it is a xfce bug | 16:42 |
| tsunami_ | thank you very much! | 16:42 |
| tsunami_ | do you know when or why it happens ? | 16:43 |
| GridCube | it happens because for some reason xfwm4 crashes | 16:43 |
| GridCube | probably after playing with compiz or other wm | 16:43 |
| tsunami_ | and this replace command.... it just restarts xfwm? | 16:45 |
| GridCube | basically, it replaces any other wm running at the moment, if there is non then it just restart it | 16:48 |
| tsunami_ | thank you very much for your help | 16:49 |
| tsunami_ | one other thing... is there any chance I can spread a window through several workspaces? | 16:50 |
| GridCube | no idea | 16:51 |
| TheSheep | no | 16:51 |
| TheSheep | workspaces are separate | 16:51 |
| TheSheep | not like the fake workspaces of compiz | 16:51 |
| TheSheep | which are just one large desktop | 16:51 |
| tsunami_ | hummm interesting... | 16:52 |
| tsunami_ | I would like to try compiz but not to screw my xubuntu. is it possible to add it as an option windos manager in the login? | 16:57 |
| tsunami_ | other question... is xubuntu 64bit compatible? I do not have a lib/64 directory | 17:00 |
| tsunami_ | usr/lib64 i mean | 17:02 |
| magerquark | there is a 64.bit version | 17:02 |
| magerquark | so it depends on the version you have installed | 17:02 |
| tsunami_ | I only found 64bit for amd | 17:03 |
| magerquark | the architecture is called amd64, actually it is also für intel cpus | 17:03 |
| magerquark | the amd64 version is for all x86-compatible cpus | 17:03 |
| tsunami_ | so it means that I have a 32bit installed on a 64bit machine... bad luck... | 17:04 |
| magerquark | do you have more than 4 GB RAM? | 17:04 |
| tsunami_ | does this also mean that I will have to reinstall the 64bit version? | 17:05 |
| tsunami_ | I will check that now magerquark | 17:05 |
| magerquark | tsunami, the 32bit version is perfectly fine for most of all users | 17:05 |
| magerquark | you dont have to reinstall a new version | 17:06 |
| magerquark | there are rare use-cases where the 64bit-version is necessary | 17:06 |
| magerquark | but you can if you want to reinstall it | 17:06 |
| tsunami_ | the system tells me I have 8 gigs memory | 17:09 |
| tsunami_ | cat /proc/meminfo tells me that | 17:09 |
| tsunami_ | MemTotal: 8166220 kB | 17:09 |
| tsunami_ | does this means it is a 64bit installation? | 17:10 |
| magerquark | wich .iso did you download? | 17:10 |
| tsunami_ | and thank you for the info magerquark | 17:10 |
| tsunami_ | Origin: Ubuntu | 17:19 |
| tsunami_ | Label: Ubuntu Suite: oneiric Version: 11.10 Codename: oneiric Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:15:52 UTC Architectures: i386 Components: main restricted universe multiverse Description: Ubuntu Oneiric 11.10 | 17:19 |
| tsunami_ | dont know why but now I cannot open the partition where I have the image | 17:20 |
| tsunami_ | do not have permissions to write on the windows partition and on usb external discs | 17:21 |
| tsunami_ | which is a pain | 17:21 |
| xsl | i have a problem with the lower panel ( its configured for x= and y= ) is there an option to configure it to "bottom" instead of coordinates? | 17:21 |
| tsunami_ | i opened thunar with root access but it says there is no trash directory when i try to delete something... | 17:22 |
| tsunami_ | any suggestions? | 17:22 |
| tsunami_ | strange thing... a cannot see what I have on another partition (a 60gig extf4) but if I ask qBittorrent to open destination folder (that Im using for downloads on this other partition) it opens the directory but I cant see anything else but that directory and I can only see the directories, not the files... any suggestion? | 17:39 |
| tsunami_ | strange behavior xubuntu has today.. | 17:40 |
| tsunami_ | strange thing... a cannot see what I have on another partition (a 60gig) but if I ask qBittorrent to open destination folder (that Im using for downloads on this other partition) it opens the directory but I cant see anything else but that directory and I can only see the directories, not the files... any suggestion? strange behavior ubuntu has today.. | 17:56 |
| Os_Maleus | hey together! is it possible to have a parallel installed windows next to xubuntu and let the same windows run in a virtual machine under xubuntu? | 18:26 |
| baizon | Os_Maleus: no | 18:28 |
| baizon | driver are differenz | 18:28 |
| baizon | different | 18:28 |
| baizon | windows would crash | 18:28 |
| baizon | and the licence key wouldnt be vaild | 18:28 |
| Os_Maleus | but I can let run windows in a virtual machine. can't I? | 18:28 |
| baizon | yes you can | 18:29 |
| baizon | but running windows in a vm and at the same time native isnt possible | 18:29 |
| Os_Maleus | so, I would need to perform the whole installation from the basics for that? | 18:29 |
| baizon | yes | 18:30 |
| Os_Maleus | thanks, baizon! | 18:31 |
| baizon | np | 18:31 |
| mic_ | hello | 20:07 |
| mic_ | I have some problems setting up my dual monitors with xrandr and ati drivers | 20:18 |
| baizon | mic_: yes, and the problem is? | 20:19 |
| mic_ | xrandr tells me "xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1600x1600", of course I've looked it up, and the solution for most people was to at the line 'Virtual x y' (where x and y being the size for the virtual desktop) in their xorg.conf, this didn't fix the problem for me though.. | 20:21 |
| mic_ | add* | 20:22 |
| baizon | mic_: what drivers? | 20:22 |
| baizon | for me it didnt workd either | 20:23 |
| mic_ | gotten of amd site: amd-driver-installer-12-1-x86.x86_64.run | 20:25 |
| tsunami_ | my xubuntu is collapsing I dont know why as I did not messed around, first it was xfwm4 that started going crazy, I did xfwm4 --replace and it was ok. BUT after that I cant access other partitions on my hard disk and my keyboard is completely dis-configured... It is just colapsing. Anybody has a suggestion or should I just reinstall ubuntu again? | 20:26 |
| mic_ | I'm guessing that those do have something to do with it - before I installed them, it was no problem to extend the desktop (though I did this in xubuntu -> settings editor) | 20:26 |
| baizon | mic_: you cant use the proprietary drivers and xrandr | 20:36 |
| baizon | mic_: you can use the open source ati drivers, or if you want to use the current one you have to use xinerama | 20:37 |
| baizon | tsunami_: you can try to delete the .cache for xfce | 20:39 |
| baizon | it helps ofen for me | 20:39 |
| mic_ | But, I can, I mean, xrandr works fine, except for that 1600x1600 desktop limitation. But I wish amdcccle wasn't so buggy: it just doesn't do anything. I'll look into xinerama and otherwise I'll go back to the open source drivers. | 20:40 |
| baizon | im using the proprietary one and have to use xinerama for dual-screen | 20:40 |
| baizon | xrandr doesnt work with ati | 20:41 |
| mic_ | okay quick question: 'you must restart your computer', can I just log out and back in? lol. | 20:46 |
| tsunami_ | baizon, it said invalid filename when I try to delete .cache...... funny | 20:46 |
| baizon | .cache folder :P | 20:46 |
| baizon | ^^ | 20:52 |
| mic_ | baizon: Thank you for setting me onto xinerama. I thought I had bad memories about this, but everything is working fine :) | 20:57 |
| tsunami_ | I have a .cache folder with lots of folders there do you whant me to delete them all? | 20:57 |
| baizon | mic_: good to hear | 20:58 |
| tsunami_ | baizon, I have a .cache folder with lots of folders there do you whant me to delete them all? | 20:58 |
| baizon | tsunami_: no | 20:58 |
| baizon | tsunami_: ~/.cache/sessions | 20:59 |
| tsunami_ | ah ok shoul I delete all tose txt files? | 21:03 |
| baizon | yes | 21:03 |
| baizon | and restart X server | 21:03 |
| mic_ | baizon: I just noticed the resolution on my right monitor isn't quite right. (I thought I'd fix that by turning xinerama off, change resolution, turn on; description in amdcccle made me think so) but I think the new resolution didn't stay when going into xinerama | 21:04 |
| baizon | mic_: try... sudo aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=right | 21:04 |
| baizon | aticonfig --overlay-on=1 | 21:04 |
| baizon | Restart X Server. | 21:04 |
| baizon | aticonfig --xinerama=on | 21:04 |
| mic_ | alright | 21:05 |
| mic_ | baizon: no change | 21:08 |
| baizon | aticonfig --resolution=0,1680x1050 | 21:09 |
| baizon | aticonfig --resolution=1,1680x1050 | 21:09 |
| baizon | and try to change the resolution | 21:09 |
| baizon | for your screen | 21:09 |
| tsunami_ | baizon, all is the same, cant access partitions | 21:10 |
| baizon | tsunami_: are they detected? | 21:10 |
| baizon | fdisk -l | 21:10 |
| mic_ | baizon: errir at set screeb resolution : screen1 does not exist | 21:11 |
| mic_ | error* | 21:11 |
| mic_ | (for --resolution=1) | 21:12 |
| tsunami_ | baizon, http://pastebin.com/9AJAGjgn | 21:16 |
| tsunami_ | baizon, yes they seem to be detected | 21:17 |
| baizon | whats the error msg? | 21:18 |
| baizon | is it mounted? | 21:18 |
| baizon | mic_: google ;) | 21:18 |
| tsunami_ | they say to be mounted but there is nothing there when I go there /media/xxxx | 21:19 |
| tsunami_ | I think it might be something to do with fstab but I cant fix it | 21:21 |
| tsunami_ | baizon, can you have a look here? http://pastebin.com/45cegSGR | 21:22 |
| baizon | tsunami_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab | 21:25 |
| baizon | :) | 21:25 |
| tsunami_ | do you think is the fstab, I am afraid of braking it | 21:29 |
| tsunami_ | baison, do you think something is wrong in the fstab ? | 21:30 |
| spanner3003 | how do i stop the gui in xubuntu? | 21:30 |
| spanner3003 | from within tty1 | 21:31 |
| tsunami_ | it seams that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab is down | 21:32 |
| tsunami_ | and this one too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs | 21:32 |
| baizon | spanner3003: what version? | 21:32 |
| spanner3003 | 11.10 | 21:32 |
| tsunami_ | up again! :) | 21:33 |
| spanner3003 | baizon, | 21:33 |
| baizon | spanner3003: http://www.uptechtalk.com/?p=162 | 21:34 |
| baizon | first link that google search gave me :P | 21:35 |
| spanner3003 | can i do the with sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop? | 21:37 |
| baizon | spanner3003: but it will start at next boot | 21:38 |
| baizon | so it is pointless | 21:38 |
| spanner3003 | not if your build and it's on all the time | 21:39 |
| spanner3003 | thank you :D | 21:39 |
| baizon | ok | 21:39 |
| baizon | np | 21:39 |
| andythenoob | hi all, does anyone know a good place on the web to understand the dmesg output properly please? | 21:46 |
| baizon | andythenoob: http://linuxgazette.net/issue59/nazario.html | 21:48 |
| andythenoob | perfect, many thanks! | 21:49 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!