| KM0201 | Using Lubuntu 12.04 (yeah i know it's alpha, but i don't thikn this is related)... when i add custom sound events in xchat settings, they work fine, until I restart my laptop. At that point, the sound settings, and sound settings only, are gone. My other settings (auto join channels, auto hidding the userlist) are all intact | 05:21 |
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| Unit193 | If you quit with xchat>quit or ctrl+q does it save it? | 05:23 |
| Unit193 | And that'd explain your cycleing. ;) | 05:23 |
| KM0201 | hold on | 05:27 |
| KM0201 | lemme try that, brb | 05:27 |
| KM0201 | weird, thats what it was | 05:29 |
| Unit193 | Bug #851104 | 05:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 851104 in xchat (Ubuntu) "Xchat fails to save sound preference Beep." [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851104 | 05:30 |
| lulz87 | i have problem with sound volume, lubuntu find and install driver, but sound is silenced | 11:35 |
| kuldeepdhaka | -------hep-----i installed Lubuntu on my thin client 1Ghz processor,5 gb [1gb internal + 4 gb external pendrive],521 mb ram,,,,installed lubuntu on pendrive...now it is not loading...only text mode can be seen by pressing atl+ctrl+f1 | 12:32 |
| kuldeepdhaka | -------hlep-----i installed Lubuntu on my thin client 1Ghz processor,5 gb [1gb internal + 4 gb external pendrive],521 mb ram,,,,installed lubuntu on pendrive...now it is not loading...only text mode can be seen by pressing atl+ctrl+f1 | 12:32 |
| kuldeepdhaka | -------help-----i installed Lubuntu on my thin client 1Ghz processor,5 gb [1gb internal + 4 gb external pendrive],521 mb ram,,,,installed lubuntu on pendrive...now it is not loading...only text mode can be seen by pressing atl+ctrl+f1 | 12:32 |
| kuldeepdhaka | help-----i installed Lubuntu on my thin client 1Ghz processor,5 gb [1gb internal + 4 gb external pendrive],521 mb ram,,,,installed lubuntu on pendrive...now it is not loading...only text mode can be seen by pressing atl+ctrl+f1 | 12:47 |
| kuldeepdhaka | help-----i installed Lubuntu on my thin client 1Ghz processor,5 gb [1gb internal + 4 gb external pendrive],521 mb ram,,,,installed lubuntu on pendrive...now it is not loading...only text mode can be seen by pressing atl+ctrl+f1 | 13:00 |
| Mito125 | hi | 14:50 |
| Mito125 | I'm trying to add to main menu a new custom category, but I don't find a good tutorial to do it... I tried to modify *.menu file and created *.direcotry file, but it didn't work... | 14:51 |
| smkatz | hey. pardon the question, but how do I enable automount or equalivent? | 15:40 |
| smkatz | how do I make something happen when I insert removable media? | 15:41 |
| smkatz | (btw, I fixed my problem from yesterday) | 15:41 |
| KM0201 | smkatz, automount would be handled by fstab | 15:43 |
| KM0201 | what are you trying to automount? | 15:43 |
| smkatz | I'm giving this computer to a novice user | 15:43 |
| KM0201 | ok, but.. that doesn't tell me what you're trying to automount | 15:43 |
| smkatz | I'm relatively novice myself, but not as novice as she | 15:43 |
| smkatz | at the moment, cds and dvds | 15:44 |
| KM0201 | cd's and DVD's should automount | 15:44 |
| smkatz | so.. where are they? | 15:44 |
| KM0201 | (i don't use much of either, but i'm pretty sure they do) | 15:44 |
| KM0201 | insert cd/open up FileManager, look on the left | 15:44 |
| smkatz | ok | 15:44 |
| smkatz | sorry, I assumed they didn't | 15:44 |
| KM0201 | it's ok, they just don't show up on the desktop | 15:45 |
| KM0201 | to unmount... simply open filemanager, right click the item, and choose "remove" | 15:46 |
| KM0201 | there might be a way you can get removable items to show on the desktopp, hang on | 15:46 |
| KM0201 | hmm, maybe not.. i thought there was.. | 15:47 |
| KM0201 | must be thinking of xfce | 15:47 |
| smkatz | we have another problem first | 15:52 |
| KM0201 | ok.. | 15:52 |
| smkatz | it's not actually mounting | 15:52 |
| smkatz | but, it may be something funky with the drive | 15:52 |
| smkatz | I thought I needed to reinstall the other day | 15:52 |
| KM0201 | thats likely (or the disk) | 15:52 |
| smkatz | and out of the several isos I burned | 15:52 |
| KM0201 | does it mount a USB? | 15:52 |
| smkatz | only one worked in terms of booting | 15:52 |
| KM0201 | yeah, sounds like your drive might be going fubar | 15:53 |
| smkatz | that's really weird because it installed ok | 15:53 |
| smkatz | ok | 15:53 |
| smkatz | I'll try usb. thanks | 15:53 |
| KM0201 | well.. hardware can be very strange, and intermittent failures very difficult to diagnose | 15:53 |
| KM0201 | are USB drives automounting? | 15:54 |
| smkatz | what file systems can it read? | 15:54 |
| smkatz | ntfs ok? | 15:54 |
| KM0201 | yes | 15:54 |
| KM0201 | ntfs has been pretty well supported by Linux for several years | 15:54 |
| smile4ever | hi :) | 15:58 |
| KM0201 | o/ | 15:58 |
| smile4ever | how are you? ;) | 15:59 |
| smkatz | yes it mounted | 16:00 |
| smkatz | gave me a nice prompt asking me what to do | 16:00 |
| smkatz | I did have a broken package system yesterday | 16:00 |
| smkatz | I did fix it | 16:00 |
| smkatz | but given that it can't boot off of cd either | 16:00 |
| smkatz | ... | 16:00 |
| KM0201 | smile4ever, livin the dream. :) | 16:01 |
| KM0201 | smkatz, yeah, i think your cd drive is fubar, but thats my opinion | 16:01 |
| smile4ever | KM0201: your life dream? :) | 16:01 |
| KM0201 | can the cd boot on another machine | 16:01 |
| smkatz | I'll test that. I know it can see it in another machine (the machine that burned it) | 16:03 |
| smkatz | I also have a disk containing photos, it can't read that either | 16:03 |
| KM0201 | well, if the other machien boots it without issue, (or maybe try an unreladed 3rd machine if possible) | 16:03 |
| KM0201 | does the photo disk read on the other PC? | 16:03 |
| smkatz | yes, it's a mac | 16:04 |
| smkatz | but it reads it fine | 16:04 |
| KM0201 | then i'd say that pretty well narrows it down, the drive on the problem machine is fubar. | 16:04 |
| KM0201 | if it's a desktop, you can replace it for a song | 16:04 |
| KM0201 | man, skype works so well with 12.04 | 16:05 |
| KM0201 | i think a lot of it is this new laptop, the hardware jsut seems to be very linux compatible | 16:05 |
| KM0201 | other than the friggin wireless, which doesn;'t work in 11.10, but works great in 12.04 | 16:05 |
| smkatz | btw, I have the ubuntu software center on lubuntu. is that going to be ok? | 16:05 |
| smkatz | yeah, I really like usb wireless dongles | 16:05 |
| smkatz | they work great | 16:06 |
| smkatz | but if it works in 12.04, the patch will eventually get into a stable release | 16:06 |
| KM0201 | yeah, it should. | 16:09 |
| KM0201 | but i'm a gamer and live on the edge, so i'm just using 12.04 | 16:09 |
| KM0201 | lol | 16:09 |
| KM0201 | ubuntu software center should be fine on Lubuntu, why you'd want it, i don't know, but it should be ok. | 16:09 |
| KM0201 | for what it's worth, there's a far less bloated version on Lubuntu 12.04. | 16:10 |
| KM0201 | smkatz, http://imagebin.org/201217 | 16:12 |
| smkatz | well lubuntu's software center was in ppa | 16:12 |
| smkatz | which was defined as cutting edge | 16:12 |
| smkatz | I was having trouble with the package system | 16:12 |
| smkatz | so I was worried about third-party sources | 16:12 |
| KM0201 | it's installed by default on 12.04 (or at least right now it is, i can't imagine that changing) | 16:12 |
| smkatz | I'm trying to set it up for a novice user | 16:12 |
| smkatz | apt-get or synaptic is fine for me | 16:13 |
| KM0201 | right... i actually find synaptic pretty easy... but it's really easy when you know what you're looking for | 16:13 |
| KM0201 | when you don't, it can be a little daunting (that's what makes software center appealing, it simply shows available software, rather than every single package available | 16:13 |
| smkatz | If I were to dual boot a system, would it see the ntfs drive in the file manager (the partition)? | 16:17 |
| KM0201 | yes | 16:17 |
| KM0201 | then you could do one of two things | 16:18 |
| KM0201 | simply click it and mount it (and thus access it) | 16:18 |
| KM0201 | or, edit fstab, and mount it automatically | 16:18 |
| smkatz | can you recommend any good resources to learn linux? | 16:18 |
| smkatz | editing the fstab for instance | 16:19 |
| KM0201 | smkatz: not to be a smart aleck, but just google.. ubuntu has a bazillion tutorials out there for different things.... for insance, google "editing fstab ubuntu" and the first link is an official ubuntu doc (thats what i used to learn how to do it) | 16:19 |
| smkatz | sorry | 16:20 |
| smkatz | rtfm | 16:20 |
| smkatz | the open source community is so kind | 16:20 |
| smkatz | I'm used to having to read books on things | 16:20 |
| smkatz | :-) | 16:20 |
| KM0201 | no no, don't misunderstand, not saying RTFM.. | 16:20 |
| KM0201 | just saying, thats the best way to learn about this. | 16:20 |
| KM0201 | !manual | 16:20 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ | 16:20 |
| KM0201 | or you can use that | 16:20 |
| KM0201 | it's based on 10.04, but a lot of it will still apply to 11.04 | 16:21 |
| KM0201 | smkatz: here's an example of an fstab entry to automount an NTFS partitoin http://paste.ubuntu.com/860699/ line 13 | 16:22 |
| smkatz | I don't mind rtfm | 16:26 |
| KM0201 | smkatz: i never do..lol | 16:26 |
| KM0201 | smkatz: i just remember going into slackware/debian channels, and jackasses constantly saying RTFM! i think it's rude to tell people that... help them, or point them to the section of the manual that deals w/ their problem | 16:27 |
| smkatz | right | 16:28 |
| KM0201 | or just sit on your hands | 16:29 |
| KM0201 | lol | 16:29 |
| KM0201 | debian is the worst...lol, those guys take jackass to a whole new level..lol | 16:29 |
| KM0201 | slackware can be pretty bad as well. | 16:30 |
| KM0201 | smkatz: you can also try the forums ubuntuforums.org which generally has very friendly folks there | 16:30 |
| KM0201 | and there's also linuxquestions.org/forums | 16:30 |
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| Timo_ | hi lads, I've got a second monitor, and trying to get it work with Lubuntu. Anyone has experience with this? As using the nvidia-settings doesn't really work well :( | 17:06 |
| Timo_ | The monitor is on, and I can get my mouse in the screne, but when I access the screen, the cursor becomes a black X, so it's not functioning properly :( | 17:07 |
| Sentynel | Timo_: how do you have nvidia-settings configured? I've not used a multi-monitor lubuntu system, but there's loads of options in the nvidia settings | 17:20 |
| Timo_ | Sentynel: 2 monitors, both on 'Seperate X screen' | 17:31 |
| Sentynel | Timo_: you almost certainly want the TwinView option, not separate x screens | 17:32 |
| Timo_ | Enable Xinerama is turned off, when I turn it on, it act really weird | 17:32 |
| Timo_ | mm okay | 17:32 |
| Timo_ | aaah oops :D | 17:32 |
| Timo_ | Sentynel: I got it to work now, thanks a lot! :D | 17:38 |
| Sentynel | Timo_: great | 17:38 |
| valdur55 | Timo_, what you did? | 17:39 |
| Timo_ | valdur55: use TwinView, instead of Seperate X Screen | 18:19 |
| valdur55 | Timo_, ok! | 18:22 |
| topoblu | I just upgraded to lubuntu 11.10, and I got some strange errors | 19:46 |
| izzaboo | hello | 20:47 |
| wxl | howdy izzaboo | 20:48 |
| * izzaboo reading through FAQ real quick before asking my Q | 20:48 | |
| izzaboo | not seeing it. anybody here have any suggestions for good GUI for altering CPU speed gov? | 20:49 |
| izzaboo | (in Lubuntu, of course) | 20:49 |
| wxl | well there's an lxpanel plugin to monitor it but not for altering afaik | 20:51 |
| user_ | Hi. Just reinstalled lubuntu. When I boot my laptop I see the lubuntu login screen, then I enter username and password, the screen turns black for half a second and then I see the login screen again. You know how I can fix this problem_ | 21:38 |
| Unit193 | What session do you select? Also, did you have caps/right pass? | 21:39 |
| user_ | I tried every session. before reinstallation I selected lxde and it worked, now not anymore. username and pass is correct | 21:40 |
| user_ | If I use false username or pass the login screen doesnt disappear for this half second | 21:40 |
| Unit193 | Do you see a "Lubuntu" session? | 21:41 |
| user_ | yes | 21:42 |
| user_ | tried it and it doesnt work....i tried every session | 21:42 |
| Unit193 | Right, drop to a TTY, login, and look at the logs in /var/log/ | 21:43 |
| phillw | user_: can you boot to a terminal? | 21:43 |
| user_ | I also reinstalled lubuntu again. but still same problem | 21:43 |
| user_ | how can I log in to terminal? | 21:43 |
| Unit193 | !tty | 21:43 |
| ubottu | To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution. | 21:43 |
| user_ | okay, see ya | 21:44 |
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| user33 | re | 22:03 |
| user33 | So. Just updated and upgraded the system, even got the new linux image. still the same problem. logfile says | 22:04 |
| user33 | lxdm-binary pam_succeed_if(xdm:auth):requirement "user ingroup nopasswod login" not met by user "matt" | 22:06 |
| user33 | session opened for user matt | 22:06 |
| user33 | session closed for user matt | 22:06 |
| user33 | thats pretty much everything | 22:06 |
| user33 | I think I know... | 22:09 |
| user-- | me again, still doesnt work | 22:16 |
| phillw | user--: take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10522180&postcount=4 which points to your install media having as little as one byte of place | 22:19 |
| phillw | see if have an error in you log file. | 22:19 |
| user433 | sry, live distribution crashed | 22:23 |
| user433 | could it be, because I changed partitions before I reinstalled lubuntu? | 22:23 |
| user433 | I changed also the partition of /home | 22:23 |
| phillw | it should not know out things. as it is the only meaningful mention of your error I can find I'd be tempted to have a look in .xessions-errors to see if you also have a syntax error reported. | 22:25 |
| user433 | where is the file .xessions-errors? | 22:26 |
| phillw | I am assuming you did test the integrity of the installation media you are using | 22:26 |
| user433 | hmm, nope | 22:26 |
| phillw | should be in your home directory. | 22:26 |
| phillw | user433: then, when in the land of funny and wierd errors, that's always a good place to start :) | 22:27 |
| phillw | !md5 | 22:27 |
| ubottu | To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 22:27 |
| user433 | .xessions-errors is emptz | 22:27 |
| phillw | if you have the live cd, boot with that and ask it to test itself. | 22:27 |
| * KM0201 never verifies md5 | 22:28 | |
| user433 | .xinitrc: exec startxfce4 | 22:28 |
| user433 | is this right? does lubuntu use xfce4? | 22:28 |
| phillw | KM0201: some people never clean the led laser on their burners and wonder why they suddenly have problems. | 22:29 |
| KM0201 | lol, i never do that either | 22:29 |
| phillw | user433: yeah, parts of xfce4 are used, such as power management. | 22:29 |
| KM0201 | i don't think i've ever had a bad Ubuntu burn in the 6yrs I've used Ubuntu | 22:29 |
| phillw | KM0201: not have I - I always use CD-RW - forces the beast to burn at X1 speed :P | 22:30 |
| phillw | Oh. soz, yeah - once - when it burned at CD at X8 | 22:31 |
| KM0201 | i usually set my app to burn at the slowest speed possible, usually use cdr | 22:31 |
| phillw | hence me only ever using CD-RW for image burning. | 22:31 |
| KM0201 | usually i end up burning at 4x on most linux apps. | 22:31 |
| phillw | KM0201: there was a bug in 9.10 that didn't allow you to burn 'slow' and it was not the newest laptop in the world :) | 22:31 |
| KM0201 | hmm, don't really remembeer that far back | 22:32 |
| KM0201 | i was testing ubuntu a lot, but was really using pure debian by then | 22:32 |
| phillw | I've had to get some DVD-RW's for the CentoOS and Scientific Linux images. | 22:33 |
| KM0201 | well yeah, but.. when an image is over 700mb, that is to be expected | 22:33 |
| phillw | but, we digress. this is a chat for -offtopic :) | 22:33 |
| user433 | (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0) | 22:36 |
| user433 | problem_ | 22:36 |
| user433 | problem? | 22:37 |
| user433 | oh gosh...i definitely need the fucking laptop tomorrow | 22:40 |
| user433 | will reinstall once again | 22:40 |
| KM0201 | lol, poor fella | 22:42 |
| KM0201 | i don't do ATI, so i'm no help | 22:42 |
| phillw | KM0201: until he has confirmed his install media is okay - there is precious little anyone can do.... | 22:45 |
| KM0201 | phillw: affirmative | 22:45 |
| phillw | and using swear words on an official channel will earn him a warning and possible ban :( | 22:46 |
| KM0201 | i kinda dig the new software center in lubuntu 12.04 | 22:47 |
| KM0201 | i hate the one in Ubuntu, it's to slow and very very bloated | 22:47 |
| KM0201 | like everything lxde, Lubuntu's has a sexy simplicity to it. | 22:48 |
| phillw | KM0201: it is just a stripped down DE, no bloat. | 22:48 |
| KM0201 | yeah, but i'm referring more to it's software center, vs Ubuntu's. | 22:48 |
| KM0201 | i never used Ubuntu's, because it was so freaking slow/bloated, it was easier to use Synaptic | 22:49 |
| phillw | it is the rule for lubuntu :) | 22:49 |
| KM0201 | i was gonna remove it from Lubuntu 12.04 w/o trying it, figuring it was just the ubuntu package, but i decided to try it, and was pleasantly surprised. | 22:49 |
| wumuckl | hi, anybody can help me installing my soundchip? would be very happy | 22:50 |
| KM0201 | wumuckl: installing your sound chip... ? what is your "sound chip" or do you know? | 22:50 |
| wxl | apt has even less bloat ;) | 22:51 |
| KM0201 | wxl: i won't argue that... but i do like the software center for newbs | 22:51 |
| wxl | KM0201: agreed | 22:51 |
| KM0201 | with all the new unhappiness and bloat of unity, it would be one more thing to help steer people to Lubuntu | 22:52 |
| wumuckl | KM0201: its an ati ac 97 soundchip | 22:52 |
| KM0201 | wumuckl: pastebin the output of lspci | 22:52 |
| wxl | or just `lspci | grep -i audio` | 22:53 |
| KM0201 | lspci is fine, either one | 22:53 |
| wumuckl | 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9100 IGP Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9100 IGP PCI/AGP Bridge 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 4367 (rev 01) 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 4368 (rev 01) 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 4365 (rev 01) 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SMBus (rev 03) 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc D | 22:54 |
| KM0201 | .. | 22:54 |
| KM0201 | guess someone doesn't know what a pastebin is | 22:54 |
| wumuckl | sorry | 22:54 |
| wxl | nope | 22:54 |
| phillw | |pastebin | wumuckl | 22:54 |
| phillw | !pastebin | wumuckl | 22:54 |
| ubottu | wumuckl: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 22:54 |
| wxl | !pastebin | wumuckl | 22:54 |
| wxl | oops | 22:54 |
| holstein | !paste | 22:54 |
| wumuckl | thx | 22:54 |
| holstein | maybe the bots are on vacation ;) | 22:55 |
| holstein | nm... i see it | 22:55 |
| KM0201 | bots were born on vacation, it's the ops that are always awake | 22:55 |
| wxl | if you're really good, use irssi and just /exec -out <command> | pastebinit | 22:55 |
| wumuckl | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9100 IGP Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9100 IGP PCI/AGP Bridge 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 4367 (rev 01) 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 4368 (rev 01) 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 4365 (rev 01) 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SMBus (rev 03) 00:14. | 22:55 |
| wumuckl | sorry i dont know | 22:56 |
| wxl | anywho wumuckl don't see no audio there | 22:56 |
| ericus | Hey! Does the Zenbook work as well with lubuntu as with ubuntu? | 22:56 |
| KM0201 | thats the real point | 22:56 |
| KM0201 | ericus: i told you, there should be no difference | 22:56 |
| KM0201 | Lxde is just window dressing on whatever kernel your'e using... ubuntu 11.10 and lubuntu 11.10, use the same kernel | 22:56 |
| ericus | what window manager does lubuntu use? | 22:57 |
| wxl | um | 22:57 |
| wxl | lxde is the desktop environment, openbox is the window manager | 22:58 |
| wxl | technically you're welcome to change the default window manager but that's another story… | 22:58 |
| KM0201 | phillw: aw now see, the apps basket isn't working in the new software center | 22:58 |
| phillw | KM0201: stephan still has time to fix little bugs before beta2 :) | 22:59 |
| KM0201 | yeah.,, it's minor. | 22:59 |
| wumuckl | !pastebinit | 22:59 |
| ubottu | pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com | 22:59 |
| wxl | wumuckl: `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pasetbinit` | 22:59 |
| iceroot | any not documentaed results for this black-bug? or is the bug-status the current one? | 23:00 |
| KM0201 | wxl: lol | 23:00 |
| * wxl shrugs | 23:00 | |
| wxl | iceroot: dev's working on it from what i gather | 23:00 |
| wxl | iceroot: sounds like canonical chanegd something… | 23:00 |
| KM0201 | dang, gnome-terminal isn't working with 12.04..lol | 23:01 |
| KM0201 | probably better, i shouldn't use it anyway | 23:01 |
| wxl | (unexpectedly) | 23:01 |
| KM0201 | i just like it better than lxterminal | 23:01 |
| wxl | lxterminal isn't my fave but i haven't bothered to install another | 23:01 |
| iceroot | KM0201: of course its working | 23:01 |
| iceroot | wxl: thx for the info | 23:01 |
| KM0201 | not on 12.04.. i start it, i get no cursor, etc.. just a black window | 23:02 |
| wxl | i need a tabbed terminal where the tabs show some sort of notification upon completion of a command | 23:02 |
| iceroot | KM0201: working here without problems, atm i am writing with gnome-terminal to you | 23:02 |
| wxl | that may be related to the lubuntu-artwork problem KM0201 | 23:02 |
| phillw | KM0201: it will be a black flashing cursor on a black back gorund. | 23:02 |
| wxl | iceroot: np | 23:02 |
| iceroot | not here, white cursor :) | 23:02 |
| KM0201 | philipballew: lol, is that right? | 23:02 |
| wxl | hahaha | 23:03 |
| KM0201 | lol, philw is exactly right | 23:06 |
| KM0201 | i just changed the theme on gnome-terminal, and sure enough, thats what it is.. black on black | 23:06 |
| Myrtti | !ping | 23:06 |
| ubottu | another contentless ping... sigh... | 23:06 |
| wumuckl | !pastebinit | 23:06 |
| ubottu | pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com | 23:06 |
| KM0201 | man, i didn't think getting a pastebin would be such an issue. | 23:06 |
| iceroot | what about setting the bug to critical and put it in the topic? | 23:07 |
| wxl | …especially given the exact command was provided | 23:07 |
| KM0201 | wxl: lol | 23:07 |
| KM0201 | reading is fundamental | 23:07 |
| wxl | wumuckl: hold down ALT and hit F2 and in the resulting dialog type `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y pasetbinit` without the ``s | 23:08 |
| wxl | oh and hit enter when you're done | 23:09 |
| wumuckl | i tried to install bit it said package not found... n0ow its installing, thank you | 23:09 |
| wxl | oh hahaha | 23:09 |
| wxl | my bad | 23:09 |
| wxl | s/paset/paste/ | 23:10 |
| * wxl goes and registers pasetbin.com | 23:10 | |
| phillw | iceroot: Let us see where Rafael has gotten up to for the meeting tomorrow evening. | 23:10 |
| KM0201 | i can't believe they done that w/ gnome-terminal.. that is blatant stupidity. | 23:10 |
| KM0201 | lol | 23:10 |
| KM0201 | wumuckl: how you coming along?.. did you get pastebinit installed? | 23:13 |
| iceroot | phillw: ah yes i forgot the last mail on the mailinglist | 23:14 |
| wumuckl | yes its installed but now how to use this | 23:15 |
| KM0201 | wumuckl: now type this pastebinit | lspci | 23:16 |
| KM0201 | then hit enter | 23:16 |
| KM0201 | then give us the link it gives you | 23:16 |
| wumuckl | thank you for this help, i know i am a noob but i am new with ubuntu... | 23:16 |
| wxl | wumuckl: ALT-F2 again but this time type `lspci | pastebinit` | 23:16 |
| KM0201 | wxl: other way around | 23:16 |
| wxl | KM0201: nuh uh they both work | 23:16 |
| KM0201 | oh, you're right. | 23:16 |
| wxl | er maybe not | 23:16 |
| wxl | pastebinit < lspci | 23:16 |
| KM0201 | yeah, you're right | 23:17 |
| wumuckl | http://paste.ubuntu.com/861223/ | 23:17 |
| KM0201 | i stepped in it.. lspci | pastebinit | 23:17 |
| KM0201 | wohooo | 23:17 |
| wumuckl | this was right? | 23:17 |
| wxl | hey at least you can spell paste | 23:17 |
| wxl | http://paste.ubuntu.com/861223/ | 23:17 |
| wxl | oops | 23:17 |
| wxl | Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB300 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) | 23:17 |
| wxl | that | 23:17 |
| wumuckl | yes i think this is my audio chip | 23:18 |
| KM0201 | no thinking | 23:18 |
| KM0201 | it is | 23:18 |
| KM0201 | lol | 23:18 |
| wumuckl | whats sofunny? | 23:19 |
| KM0201 | if it were me | 23:19 |
| wxl | there was a bug with this in karmic | 23:19 |
| wumuckl | ??? | 23:19 |
| KM0201 | i would try installing pulseaudio, thats what i always do when i have sound probs. | 23:19 |
| KM0201 | wxl: i was just looking at that as well. | 23:19 |
| wumuckl | with apt-get? | 23:19 |
| KM0201 | wumuckl: sure, you can use apt-get sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pavucontrol | 23:19 |
| wxl | wumuckl: hold on that's a somewhat drastic solution | 23:19 |
| KM0201 | drastic? | 23:20 |
| wxl | let's see if we can find something simpler! | 23:20 |
| KM0201 | lol | 23:20 |
| wumuckl | ok, i already klickes 2 days through many forums and didnt find a solution | 23:21 |
| KM0201 | is that a fairly new laptop?... don't think i've saw that chipset before | 23:21 |
| wumuckl | no its a old tower..ö. | 23:21 |
| wumuckl | a fujitsu siemens | 23:22 |
| wxl | what do you get with aplay -l? | 23:22 |
| wumuckl | no soundcards | 23:22 |
| KM0201 | and the truth shall set you free. | 23:23 |
| wumuckl | ? | 23:23 |
| KM0201 | i'd install pulseaudio, but... thats just me. | 23:24 |
| wxl | let's see what modules are loaded if any | 23:24 |
| wumuckl | what is pulseaudio? | 23:24 |
| wxl | wumuckl: ALT-F2 and `lspci -v | grep -i audio -A 7 | pastebinit` | 23:24 |
| wumuckl | lspci -v | grep -i audio -A 7 | pastebinit | 23:25 |
| wumuckl | oh sorry+ | 23:25 |
| wxl | np | 23:25 |
| wumuckl | http://paste.ubuntu.com/861237/ | 23:25 |
| wumuckl | ok? | 23:25 |
| KM0201 | "capabilities: <access denied> | 23:26 |
| KM0201 | i have no idea what that means, but it doesn't sound good | 23:26 |
| wxl | shoot i gotta jet for a sec | 23:27 |
| wumuckl | its strange i have installed ubuntu and the chip worked with the live system but not when then installing was finished, after this i did install luibuntu and the chip dont work ;( | 23:27 |
| wxl | i'd search that snd-atiixp module and see if it's problematic | 23:28 |
| wxl | i don't think the access denied is an issue | 23:28 |
| KM0201 | cough, pulseaudio, cough | 23:28 |
| wxl | or you could use KM0201's lame solution | 23:29 |
| wxl | ;) | 23:29 |
| KM0201 | lol | 23:29 |
| KM0201 | wohhoo | 23:29 |
| wumuckl | sorry i dont understand, thats the alsa driver? where can i find tzhis | 23:29 |
| wxl | "oh my ubuntu doesn't work" "oh did you try installing windows?" | 23:29 |
| wxl | :/ | 23:29 |
| wxl | anyways bbl | 23:29 |
| KM0201 | later | 23:29 |
| KM0201 | wumuckl: just try this first.. | 23:29 |
| KM0201 | sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pavucontrol | 23:29 |
| KM0201 | and let all that stuff install | 23:29 |
| wumuckl | ok, i will try | 23:30 |
| wumuckl | thank you for your help | 23:30 |
| wumuckl | but what is it, pulseaudio? | 23:31 |
| KM0201 | it's just another sound driver. | 23:31 |
| KM0201 | basically | 23:31 |
| wumuckl | ok | 23:31 |
| KM0201 | i'm not sure i'd draw the comparison to "oh my ubuntu doesn't work, did you try installing windows".. but.. lol | 23:32 |
| wumuckl | after this i zhave to reboot, right? | 23:32 |
| KM0201 | wumuckl: probably.. | 23:32 |
| KM0201 | i'm not sure how to manually start the daemon, so it would be easiest | 23:32 |
| KM0201 | wumuckl: is it installing ok? | 23:34 |
| wumuckl | yes | 23:35 |
| wumuckl | i do the reboot now | 23:35 |
| KM0201 | ok | 23:35 |
| phillw | iceroot: are you on the lubuntu-qa list? | 23:38 |
| wumuckl_ | no, notjhing happened | 23:39 |
| phillw | KM0201: I did see a bug raised where live-cd user was not in the audio group, not sure if it is still live or applicable, | 23:39 |
| KM0201 | dunno | 23:40 |
| KM0201 | wumuckl_: go to menu/sound and video/pulse audio volume control | 23:40 |
| wumuckl_ | where is menu/sounbd | 23:40 |
| KM0201 | menu?... thatrs the little bird in the panel | 23:41 |
| KM0201 | at least i think its a bird | 23:41 |
| wumuckl_ | in lubuntu? | 23:41 |
| KM0201 | it's definitely not a plane or superman | 23:41 |
| KM0201 | yes, in lubuntu | 23:41 |
| phillw | KM0201: can you /join #lubuntu-offtopic | 23:41 |
| KM0201 | just go to your Lubuntu menu, then sound and video, then pulse audio volume control | 23:42 |
| KM0201 | i'm there | 23:42 |
| wumuckl_ | sorry i cant find, i m from germany its in german, may be its different? | 23:43 |
| KM0201 | wumuckl_: did you mange to get pulseaudio volume control up? | 23:43 |
| KM0201 | .. | 23:43 |
| KM0201 | do you have a sound and video optin in your menu? | 23:43 |
| wumuckl_ | i have it | 23:43 |
| KM0201 | ok | 23:43 |
| KM0201 | in that, do you have something like "Pulse Audio Volume Control: | 23:44 |
| KM0201 | " | 23:44 |
| wumuckl_ | yes i have itr | 23:44 |
| KM0201 | ok, opent hat | 23:44 |
| wumuckl_ | ok | 23:44 |
| KM0201 | and you should see a tab called "Output devices" | 23:44 |
| wumuckl_ | ya | 23:44 |
| KM0201 | whats it say there? | 23:45 |
| wumuckl_ | dummy-ausgabe | 23:45 |
| wumuckl_ | ausgabe means outpout | 23:45 |
| wumuckl_ | output | 23:45 |
| KM0201 | ok | 23:45 |
| KM0201 | do you see where it says "port" | 23:45 |
| wumuckl_ | then there are 2 faders | 23:45 |
| KM0201 | should say something like "analog output" next to it | 23:45 |
| KM0201 | it's not muted right? (you can move the sliders) | 23:46 |
| wumuckl_ | yes they are on 100 % | 23:46 |
| KM0201 | wumuckl_: ok, but you can move them right? (if you can't move them your sound is muted) | 23:47 |
| wumuckl_ | but i can dfecide between hardware or virtual output devices and its only a virtual one, may be this is wrong? | 23:47 |
| wumuckl_ | yes i can move them | 23:47 |
| KM0201 | ok | 23:47 |
| KM0201 | click on the configuration tab | 23:48 |
| wumuckl_ | i cant find analog output | 23:48 |
| KM0201 | whats it say next to "profile" on the configuration tab | 23:48 |
| wumuckl_ | on the konfiguration tab there is a message like no cards existing to configurate | 23:49 |
| KM0201 | hmm, seems thats your problem | 23:49 |
| KM0201 | what version of lubuntu did you install? | 23:49 |
| wumuckl_ | 10.04 | 23:50 |
| KM0201 | i'd try the current version. | 23:50 |
| KM0201 | 11.10 | 23:50 |
| wumuckl_ | you think it can help to install a newer version? | 23:50 |
| wumuckl_ | or older? | 23:50 |
| KM0201 | newer | 23:51 |
| wumuckl_ | ah ok thanks | 23:51 |
| KM0201 | 10.04 was the first lubuntu release.. frankly, i found it to be problematic, even if it was LTS | 23:51 |
| KM0201 | 12.04 should be much better if you want LTS, but it won't be out for a couple of months, you can just upgrade 11.10 to 12.04 | 23:51 |
| wumuckl_ | ok, i chose it because LTS | 23:51 |
| iceroot | lubuntu does not have lts | 23:52 |
| iceroot | not 10.04 and not 12.04 | 23:52 |
| KM0201 | LTS is pointless for 99% of home users, unless you're paying for support, or you're supporting multiple machines | 23:52 |
| iceroot | both are supported 18 month | 23:52 |
| wumuckl_ | canm i update out of my current version? | 23:52 |
| KM0201 | iceroot: really? | 23:52 |
| KM0201 | interesting | 23:52 |
| iceroot | KM0201: yes | 23:52 |
| wumuckl_ | or its better to mske complete new | 23:52 |
| KM0201 | lol, guess i should pay more attention to release notes | 23:52 |
| KM0201 | wumuckl_: i never upgrade, i always clean install, but that is entirely up to you | 23:52 |
| iceroot | KM0201: lubuntu is supported 18 month, all other packages which are also used in gnome/unity are 5 years supported | 23:52 |
| KM0201 | gotcha. | 23:52 |
| wumuckl_ | ok nice info | 23:53 |
| iceroot | KM0201: apt-cache show packagename there is a line "support" there you can see how long it is supported | 23:53 |
| KM0201 | wumuckl_: is it a single boot machine, or a dual boot? | 23:53 |
| wumuckl_ | its single boot | 23:53 |
| iceroot | e.g. Supported: 5y | 23:53 |
| KM0201 | wumuckl_: ok, so it should be easy to reinstall. | 23:53 |
| wumuckl_ | yes but i have no cd or dvd right now | 23:54 |
| KM0201 | can it boot usb? | 23:54 |
| wumuckl_ | i've already downloaded the iso | 23:54 |
| wumuckl_ | no i tried but couldn get it | 23:55 |
| KM0201 | if the machine can boot usb, and you have a 2gig thumbdrive... you can put the iso on a thumb drive | 23:55 |
| KM0201 | you tried... can the machine not boot USB, or did you have trouble setting up the USB>? | 23:55 |
| wumuckl_ | yes but it cant boot usb | 23:55 |
| KM0201 | gotcha, just making sure i understood | 23:56 |
| wumuckl_ | or how can i sure know if it can or not | 23:56 |
| KM0201 | it should be in the BIOS | 23:56 |
| KM0201 | how old is the machine? | 23:56 |
| wumuckl_ | i had a stick and boot another machine from this stick but i coulnd find an option withn boot from usb on this machine | 23:57 |
| KM0201 | it should be in the BIOS... | 23:57 |
| KM0201 | assuming the PC is within 5yrs old, it should boot USB just fine | 23:57 |
| wumuckl_ | 5years | 23:57 |
| KM0201 | 6-8yrs, it gets kinda shaky.. | 23:57 |
| phillw | wumuckl_: drat, 10.04 was very young :/ | 23:57 |
| wumuckl_ | ^ | 23:57 |
| KM0201 | wumuckl_: i woul dthink it can boot usb | 23:58 |
| KM0201 | have you checked the BIOS? | 23:58 |
| wumuckl_ | yes | 23:58 |
| KM0201 | no USB option in the "boot sequence" section? | 23:58 |
| wumuckl_ | i found in the boot priorities an optiuon FDD | 23:58 |
| KM0201 | thats floppy disk | 23:58 |
| wumuckl_ | i think its the card reader | 23:59 |
| wumuckl_ | ??? | 23:59 |
| wumuckl_ | ah ok | 23:59 |
| KM0201 | no | 23:59 |
| wumuckl_ | thanks for this information | 23:59 |
| wumuckl_ | i found no usb | 23:59 |
| KM0201 | those card readers are an IDE device usually (on a machine that age) or nowdays, they are a sata device | 23:59 |
| KM0201 | then it can't boot usb | 23:59 |
| phillw | if you cannot get a newer iso, then it *is* possible to update to 10.10 --> 11.04 --> 11.10 But a newer CD would be much better | 23:59 |
| wumuckl_ | :( | 23:59 |
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