[05:21] <KM0201> Using Lubuntu 12.04 (yeah i know it's alpha, but i don't thikn this is related)... when i add custom sound events in xchat settings, they work fine, until I restart my laptop.  At that point, the sound settings, and sound settings only, are gone.  My other settings (auto join channels, auto hidding the userlist) are all intact
[05:23] <Unit193> If you quit with xchat>quit or ctrl+q does it save it?
[05:23] <Unit193> And that'd explain your cycleing. ;)
[05:27] <KM0201> hold on
[05:27] <KM0201> lemme try that, brb
[05:29] <KM0201> weird, thats what it was
[05:30] <Unit193> Bug #851104
[11:35] <lulz87> i have problem with sound volume, lubuntu find and install driver, but sound is silenced
[12:32] <kuldeepdhaka> -------hep-----i installed Lubuntu on my thin client  1Ghz processor,5 gb [1gb internal + 4 gb external pendrive],521 mb ram,,,,installed lubuntu on pendrive...now it is not loading...only text mode can be seen by pressing atl+ctrl+f1
[12:32] <kuldeepdhaka> -------hlep-----i installed Lubuntu on my thin client  1Ghz processor,5 gb [1gb internal + 4 gb external pendrive],521 mb ram,,,,installed lubuntu on pendrive...now it is not loading...only text mode can be seen by pressing atl+ctrl+f1
[12:32] <kuldeepdhaka> -------help-----i installed Lubuntu on my thin client  1Ghz processor,5 gb [1gb internal + 4 gb external pendrive],521 mb ram,,,,installed lubuntu on pendrive...now it is not loading...only text mode can be seen by pressing atl+ctrl+f1
[12:47] <kuldeepdhaka> help-----i installed Lubuntu on my thin client  1Ghz processor,5 gb [1gb internal + 4 gb external pendrive],521 mb ram,,,,installed lubuntu on pendrive...now it is not loading...only text mode can be seen by pressing atl+ctrl+f1
[13:00] <kuldeepdhaka> help-----i installed Lubuntu on my thin client  1Ghz processor,5 gb [1gb internal + 4 gb external pendrive],521 mb ram,,,,installed lubuntu on pendrive...now it is not loading...only text mode can be seen by pressing atl+ctrl+f1
[14:50] <Mito125> hi
[14:51] <Mito125> I'm trying to add to main menu a new custom category, but I don't find a good tutorial to do it... I tried to modify *.menu file and created *.direcotry file, but it didn't work...
[15:40] <smkatz> hey. pardon the question, but how do I enable automount or equalivent?
[15:41] <smkatz> how do I make something happen when I insert removable media?
[15:41] <smkatz> (btw, I fixed my problem from yesterday)
[15:43] <KM0201> smkatz, automount would be handled by fstab
[15:43] <KM0201> what are you trying to automount?
[15:43] <smkatz> I'm giving this computer to a novice user
[15:43] <KM0201> ok, but.. that doesn't tell me what you're trying to automount
[15:43] <smkatz> I'm relatively novice myself, but not as novice as she
[15:44] <smkatz> at the moment, cds and dvds
[15:44] <KM0201> cd's and DVD's should automount
[15:44] <smkatz> so.. where are they?
[15:44] <KM0201> (i don't use much of either, but i'm pretty sure they do)
[15:44] <KM0201> insert cd/open up FileManager, look on the left
[15:44] <smkatz> ok
[15:44] <smkatz> sorry, I assumed they didn't
[15:45] <KM0201> it's ok, they just don't show up on the desktop
[15:46] <KM0201> to unmount... simply open filemanager, right click the item, and choose "remove"
[15:46] <KM0201> there might be a way you can get removable items to show on the desktopp, hang on
[15:47] <KM0201> hmm, maybe not.. i thought there was..
[15:47] <KM0201> must be thinking of xfce
[15:52] <smkatz> we have another problem first
[15:52] <KM0201> ok..
[15:52] <smkatz> it's not actually mounting
[15:52] <smkatz> but, it may be something funky with the drive
[15:52] <smkatz> I thought I needed to reinstall the other day
[15:52] <KM0201> thats likely (or the disk)
[15:52] <smkatz> and out of the several isos I burned
[15:52] <KM0201> does it mount a USB?
[15:52] <smkatz> only one worked in terms of booting
[15:53] <KM0201> yeah, sounds like your drive might be going fubar
[15:53] <smkatz> that's really weird because it installed ok
[15:53] <smkatz> ok
[15:53] <smkatz> I'll try usb. thanks
[15:53] <KM0201> well.. hardware can be very strange, and intermittent failures very difficult to diagnose
[15:54] <KM0201> are USB drives automounting?
[15:54] <smkatz> what file systems can it read?
[15:54] <smkatz> ntfs ok?
[15:54] <KM0201> yes
[15:54] <KM0201> ntfs has been pretty well supported by Linux for several years
[15:58] <smile4ever> hi :)
[15:58] <KM0201> o/
[15:59] <smile4ever> how are you? ;)
[16:00] <smkatz> yes it mounted
[16:00] <smkatz> gave me a nice prompt asking me what to do
[16:00] <smkatz> I did have a broken package system yesterday
[16:00] <smkatz> I did fix it
[16:00] <smkatz> but given that it can't boot off of cd either
[16:00] <smkatz> ...
[16:01] <KM0201> smile4ever, livin the dream. :)
[16:01] <KM0201> smkatz, yeah, i think your cd drive is fubar, but thats my opinion
[16:01] <smile4ever> KM0201: your life dream? :)
[16:01] <KM0201> can the cd boot on another machine
[16:03] <smkatz> I'll test that. I know it can see it in another machine (the machine that burned it)
[16:03] <smkatz> I also have a disk containing photos, it can't read that either
[16:03] <KM0201> well, if the other machien boots it without issue, (or maybe try an unreladed 3rd machine if possible)
[16:03] <KM0201> does the photo disk read on the other PC?
[16:04] <smkatz> yes, it's a mac
[16:04] <smkatz> but it reads it fine
[16:04] <KM0201> then i'd say that pretty well narrows it down, the drive on the problem machine is fubar.
[16:04] <KM0201> if it's a desktop, you can replace it for a song
[16:05] <KM0201> man, skype works so well with 12.04
[16:05] <KM0201> i think a lot of it is this new laptop, the hardware jsut seems to be very linux compatible
[16:05] <KM0201> other than the friggin wireless, which doesn;'t work in 11.10, but works great in 12.04
[16:05] <smkatz> btw, I have the ubuntu software center on lubuntu. is that going to be ok?
[16:05] <smkatz> yeah, I really like usb wireless dongles
[16:06] <smkatz> they work great
[16:06] <smkatz> but if it works in 12.04, the patch will eventually get into a stable release
[16:09] <KM0201> yeah, it should.
[16:09] <KM0201> but i'm a gamer and live on the edge, so i'm just using 12.04
[16:09] <KM0201> lol
[16:09] <KM0201> ubuntu software center should be fine on Lubuntu, why you'd want it, i don't know, but it should be ok.
[16:10] <KM0201> for what it's worth, there's a far less bloated version on Lubuntu 12.04.
[16:12] <KM0201> smkatz, http://imagebin.org/201217
[16:12] <smkatz> well lubuntu's software center was in ppa
[16:12] <smkatz> which was defined as cutting edge
[16:12] <smkatz> I was having trouble with the package system
[16:12] <smkatz> so I was worried about third-party sources
[16:12] <KM0201> it's installed by default on 12.04 (or at least right now it is, i can't imagine that changing)
[16:12] <smkatz> I'm trying to set it up for a novice user
[16:13] <smkatz> apt-get or synaptic is fine for me
[16:13] <KM0201> right... i actually find synaptic pretty easy... but it's really easy when you know what you're looking for
[16:13] <KM0201> when you don't, it can be a little daunting (that's what makes software center appealing, it simply shows available software, rather than every single package available
[16:17] <smkatz> If I were to dual boot a system, would it see the ntfs drive in the file manager (the partition)?
[16:17] <KM0201> yes
[16:18] <KM0201> then you could do one of two things
[16:18] <KM0201> simply click it and mount it (and thus access it)
[16:18] <KM0201> or, edit fstab, and mount it automatically
[16:18] <smkatz> can you recommend any good resources to learn linux?
[16:19] <smkatz> editing the fstab for instance
[16:19] <KM0201> smkatz: not to be a smart aleck, but just google.. ubuntu has a bazillion tutorials out there for different things.... for insance, google "editing fstab ubuntu" and the first link is an official ubuntu doc (thats what i used to learn how to do it)
[16:20] <smkatz> sorry
[16:20] <smkatz> rtfm
[16:20] <smkatz> the open source community is so kind
[16:20] <smkatz> I'm used to having to read books on things
[16:20] <smkatz> :-)
[16:20] <KM0201> no no, don't misunderstand, not saying RTFM..
[16:20] <KM0201> just saying, thats the best way to learn about this.
[16:20] <KM0201> !manual
[16:20] <KM0201> or you can use that
[16:21] <KM0201> it's based on 10.04, but a lot of it will still apply to 11.04
[16:22] <KM0201> smkatz: here's an example of an fstab entry to automount an NTFS partitoin   http://paste.ubuntu.com/860699/          line 13
[16:26] <smkatz> I don't mind rtfm
[16:26] <KM0201> smkatz: i never do..lol
[16:27] <KM0201> smkatz: i just remember going into slackware/debian channels, and jackasses constantly saying RTFM!  i think it's rude to tell people that... help them, or point them to the section of the manual that deals w/ their problem
[16:28] <smkatz> right
[16:29] <KM0201> or just sit on your hands
[16:29] <KM0201> lol
[16:29] <KM0201> debian is the worst...lol, those guys take jackass to a whole new level..lol
[16:30] <KM0201> slackware can be pretty bad as well.
[16:30] <KM0201> smkatz: you can also try the forums  ubuntuforums.org  which generally has very friendly folks there
[16:30] <KM0201> and there's also linuxquestions.org/forums
[17:06] <Timo_> hi lads, I've got a second monitor, and trying to get it work with Lubuntu. Anyone has experience with this? As using the nvidia-settings doesn't really work well :(
[17:07] <Timo_> The monitor is on, and I can get my mouse in the screne, but when I access the screen, the cursor becomes a black X, so it's not functioning properly :(
[17:20] <Sentynel> Timo_: how do you have nvidia-settings configured? I've not used a multi-monitor lubuntu system, but there's loads of options in the nvidia settings
[17:31] <Timo_> Sentynel: 2 monitors, both on 'Seperate X screen'
[17:32] <Sentynel> Timo_: you almost certainly want the TwinView option, not separate x screens
[17:32] <Timo_> Enable Xinerama is turned off, when I turn it on, it act really weird
[17:32] <Timo_> mm okay
[17:32] <Timo_> aaah oops :D
[17:38] <Timo_> Sentynel: I got it to work now, thanks a lot! :D
[17:38] <Sentynel> Timo_: great
[17:39] <valdur55> Timo_, what you did?
[18:19] <Timo_> valdur55: use TwinView, instead of Seperate X Screen
[18:22] <valdur55> Timo_, ok!
[19:46] <topoblu> I just upgraded to lubuntu 11.10, and I got some strange errors
[20:47] <izzaboo> hello
[20:48] <wxl> howdy izzaboo
[20:48]  * izzaboo reading through FAQ real quick before asking my Q
[20:49] <izzaboo> not seeing it. anybody here have any suggestions for good GUI for altering CPU speed gov?
[20:49] <izzaboo> (in Lubuntu, of course)
[20:51] <wxl> well there's an lxpanel plugin to monitor it but not for altering afaik
[21:38] <user_> Hi. Just reinstalled lubuntu. When I boot my laptop I see the lubuntu login screen, then I enter username and password, the screen turns black for half a second and then I see the login screen again. You know how I can fix this problem_
[21:39] <Unit193> What session do you select? Also, did you have caps/right pass?
[21:40] <user_> I tried every session. before reinstallation I selected lxde and it worked, now not anymore. username and pass is correct
[21:40] <user_> If I use false username or pass the login screen doesnt disappear for this half second
[21:41] <Unit193> Do you see a "Lubuntu" session?
[21:42] <user_> yes
[21:42] <user_> tried it and it doesnt work....i tried every session
[21:43] <Unit193> Right, drop to a TTY, login, and look at the logs in /var/log/
[21:43] <phillw> user_: can you boot to a terminal?
[21:43] <user_> I also reinstalled lubuntu again. but still same problem
[21:43] <user_> how can I log in to terminal?
[21:43] <Unit193> !tty
[21:44] <user_> okay, see ya
[22:03] <user33> re
[22:04] <user33> So. Just updated and upgraded the system, even got the new linux image. still the same problem. logfile says
[22:06] <user33> lxdm-binary pam_succeed_if(xdm:auth):requirement "user ingroup nopasswod login" not met by user "matt"
[22:06] <user33> session opened for user matt
[22:06] <user33> session closed for user matt
[22:06] <user33> thats pretty much everything
[22:09] <user33> I think I know...
[22:16] <user--> me again, still doesnt work
[22:19] <phillw> user--: take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10522180&postcount=4 which points to your install media having as little as one byte of place
[22:19] <phillw> see if have an error in you log file.
[22:23] <user433> sry, live distribution crashed
[22:23] <user433> could it be, because I changed partitions before I reinstalled lubuntu?
[22:23] <user433> I changed also the partition of /home
[22:25] <phillw> it should not know out things. as it is the only meaningful mention of your error I can find I'd be tempted to have a look in .xessions-errors to see if you also have a syntax error reported.
[22:26] <user433> where is the file .xessions-errors?
[22:26] <phillw> I am assuming you did test the integrity of the installation media you are using
[22:26] <user433> hmm, nope
[22:26] <phillw> should be in your home directory.
[22:27] <phillw> user433: then, when in the land of funny and wierd errors, that's always a good place to start :)
[22:27] <phillw> !md5
[22:27] <user433> .xessions-errors is emptz
[22:27] <phillw> if you have the live cd, boot with that and ask it to test itself.
[22:28]  * KM0201 never verifies md5
[22:28] <user433> .xinitrc: exec startxfce4
[22:28] <user433> is this right? does lubuntu use xfce4?
[22:29] <phillw> KM0201: some people never clean the led laser on their burners and wonder why they suddenly have problems.
[22:29] <KM0201> lol, i never do that either
[22:29] <phillw> user433: yeah, parts of xfce4 are used, such as power management.
[22:29] <KM0201> i don't think i've ever had a bad Ubuntu burn in the 6yrs I've used Ubuntu
[22:30] <phillw> KM0201: not have I - I always use CD-RW - forces the beast to burn at X1 speed :P
[22:31] <phillw> Oh. soz, yeah - once - when it burned at CD at X8
[22:31] <KM0201> i usually set my app to burn at the slowest speed possible, usually use cdr
[22:31] <phillw> hence me only ever using CD-RW for image burning.
[22:31] <KM0201> usually i end up burning at 4x on most linux apps.
[22:31] <phillw> KM0201: there was a bug in 9.10 that didn't allow you to burn 'slow' and it was not the newest laptop in the world :)
[22:32] <KM0201> hmm, don't really remembeer that far back
[22:32] <KM0201> i was testing ubuntu a lot, but was really using pure debian by then
[22:33] <phillw> I've had to get some DVD-RW's for the CentoOS and Scientific Linux images.
[22:33] <KM0201> well yeah, but.. when an image is over 700mb, that is to be expected
[22:33] <phillw> but, we digress. this is a chat for -offtopic :)
[22:36] <user433> (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
[22:36] <user433> problem_
[22:37] <user433> problem?
[22:40] <user433> oh gosh...i definitely need the fucking laptop tomorrow
[22:40] <user433> will reinstall once again
[22:42] <KM0201> lol, poor fella
[22:42] <KM0201> i don't do ATI, so i'm no help
[22:45] <phillw> KM0201: until he has confirmed his install media is okay - there is precious little anyone can do....
[22:45] <KM0201> phillw: affirmative
[22:46] <phillw> and using swear words on an official channel will earn him a warning and possible ban :(
[22:47] <KM0201> i kinda dig the new software center in lubuntu 12.04
[22:47] <KM0201> i hate the one in Ubuntu, it's to slow and very very bloated
[22:48] <KM0201> like everything lxde, Lubuntu's has a sexy simplicity to it.
[22:48] <phillw> KM0201: it is just a stripped down DE, no bloat.
[22:48] <KM0201> yeah, but i'm referring more to it's software center, vs Ubuntu's.
[22:49] <KM0201> i never used Ubuntu's, because it was so freaking slow/bloated, it was easier to use Synaptic
[22:49] <phillw> it is the rule for lubuntu :)
[22:49] <KM0201> i was gonna remove it from Lubuntu 12.04 w/o trying it, figuring it was just the ubuntu package, but i decided to try it, and was pleasantly surprised.
[22:50] <wumuckl> hi, anybody can help me installing my soundchip? would be very happy
[22:50] <KM0201> wumuckl: installing your sound chip... ? what is your "sound chip" or do you know?
[22:51] <wxl> apt has even less bloat ;)
[22:51] <KM0201> wxl: i won't argue that... but i do like the software center for newbs
[22:51] <wxl> KM0201: agreed
[22:52] <KM0201> with all the new unhappiness and bloat of unity, it would be one more thing to help steer people to Lubuntu
[22:52] <wumuckl> KM0201: its an ati ac 97 soundchip
[22:52] <KM0201> wumuckl: pastebin the output of lspci
[22:53] <wxl> or just `lspci | grep -i audio`
[22:53] <KM0201> lspci is fine, either one
[22:54] <wumuckl> 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9100 IGP Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9100 IGP PCI/AGP Bridge 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 4367 (rev 01) 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 4368 (rev 01) 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 4365 (rev 01) 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SMBus (rev 03) 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc D
[22:54] <KM0201> ..
[22:54] <KM0201> guess someone doesn't know what a pastebin is
[22:54] <wumuckl> sorry
[22:54] <wxl> nope
[22:54] <phillw> |pastebin | wumuckl
[22:54] <phillw> !pastebin | wumuckl
[22:54] <wxl> !pastebin | wumuckl
[22:54] <wxl> oops
[22:54] <holstein> !paste
[22:54] <wumuckl> thx
[22:55] <holstein> maybe the bots are on vacation ;)
[22:55] <holstein> nm... i see it
[22:55] <KM0201> bots were  born on vacation, it's the ops that are always awake
[22:55] <wxl> if you're really good, use irssi and just /exec -out <command> | pastebinit
[22:55] <wumuckl>  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9100 IGP Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9100 IGP PCI/AGP Bridge 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 4367 (rev 01) 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 4368 (rev 01) 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 4365 (rev 01) 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SMBus (rev 03) 00:14.
[22:56] <wumuckl> sorry i dont know
[22:56] <wxl> anywho wumuckl don't see no audio there
[22:56] <ericus> Hey! Does the Zenbook work as well with lubuntu as with ubuntu?
[22:56] <KM0201> thats the real point
[22:56] <KM0201> ericus: i told you, there should be no difference
[22:56] <KM0201> Lxde is just window dressing on whatever kernel your'e using... ubuntu 11.10 and lubuntu 11.10, use the same kernel
[22:57] <ericus> what window manager does lubuntu use?
[22:57] <wxl> um
[22:58] <wxl> lxde is the desktop environment, openbox is the window manager
[22:58] <wxl> technically you're welcome to change the default window manager but that's another story…
[22:58] <KM0201> phillw: aw now see, the apps basket isn't working in the new software center
[22:59] <phillw> KM0201: stephan still has time to fix little bugs before beta2 :)
[22:59] <KM0201> yeah.,, it's minor.
[22:59] <wumuckl> !pastebinit
[22:59] <wxl> wumuckl: `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pasetbinit`
[23:00] <iceroot> any not documentaed results for this black-bug? or is the bug-status the current one?
[23:00] <KM0201> wxl: lol
[23:00]  * wxl shrugs
[23:00] <wxl> iceroot: dev's working on it from what i gather
[23:00] <wxl> iceroot: sounds like canonical chanegd something…
[23:01] <KM0201> dang, gnome-terminal isn't working with 12.04..lol
[23:01] <KM0201> probably better, i shouldn't use it anyway
[23:01] <wxl> (unexpectedly)
[23:01] <KM0201> i just like it better than lxterminal
[23:01] <wxl> lxterminal isn't my fave but i haven't bothered to install another
[23:01] <iceroot> KM0201: of course its working
[23:01] <iceroot> wxl: thx for the info
[23:02] <KM0201> not on 12.04.. i start it, i get no cursor, etc.. just a black window
[23:02] <wxl> i need a tabbed terminal where the tabs show some sort of notification upon completion of a command
[23:02] <iceroot> KM0201: working here without problems, atm i am writing with gnome-terminal to you
[23:02] <wxl> that may be related to the lubuntu-artwork problem KM0201
[23:02] <phillw> KM0201: it will be a black flashing cursor on a black back gorund.
[23:02] <wxl> iceroot: np
[23:02] <iceroot> not here, white cursor :)
[23:02] <KM0201> philipballew: lol, is that right?
[23:03] <wxl> hahaha
[23:06] <KM0201> lol, philw is exactly right
[23:06] <KM0201> i just changed the theme on gnome-terminal, and sure enough, thats what it is.. black on black
[23:06] <Myrtti> !ping
[23:06] <wumuckl> !pastebinit
[23:06] <KM0201> man, i didn't think getting a pastebin would be such an issue.
[23:07] <iceroot> what about setting the bug to critical and put it in the topic?
[23:07] <wxl> …especially given the exact command was provided
[23:07] <KM0201> wxl: lol
[23:07] <KM0201> reading is fundamental
[23:08] <wxl> wumuckl: hold down ALT and hit F2 and in the resulting dialog type `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y pasetbinit` without the ``s
[23:09] <wxl> oh and hit enter when you're done
[23:09] <wumuckl> i tried to install bit it said package not found... n0ow its installing, thank you
[23:09] <wxl> oh hahaha
[23:09] <wxl> my bad
[23:10] <wxl> s/paset/paste/
[23:10]  * wxl goes and registers pasetbin.com
[23:10] <phillw> iceroot: Let us see where Rafael has gotten up to for the meeting tomorrow evening.
[23:10] <KM0201> i can't believe they done that w/ gnome-terminal.. that is blatant stupidity.
[23:10] <KM0201> lol
[23:13] <KM0201> wumuckl: how you coming along?.. did you get pastebinit installed?
[23:14] <iceroot> phillw: ah yes i forgot the last mail on the mailinglist
[23:15] <wumuckl> yes its installed but now how to use this
[23:16] <KM0201> wumuckl: now type this    pastebinit | lspci
[23:16] <KM0201> then hit enter
[23:16] <KM0201> then give us the link it gives you
[23:16] <wumuckl> thank you for this help, i know i am a noob but i am new with ubuntu...
[23:16] <wxl> wumuckl: ALT-F2 again but this time type `lspci | pastebinit`
[23:16] <KM0201> wxl: other way around
[23:16] <wxl> KM0201: nuh uh they both work
[23:16] <KM0201> oh, you're right.
[23:16] <wxl> er maybe not
[23:16] <wxl> pastebinit < lspci
[23:17] <KM0201> yeah, you're right
[23:17] <wumuckl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/861223/
[23:17] <KM0201> i stepped in it.. lspci | pastebinit
[23:17] <KM0201> wohooo
[23:17] <wumuckl> this was right?
[23:17] <wxl> hey at least you can spell paste
[23:17] <wxl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/861223/
[23:17] <wxl> oops
[23:17] <wxl> Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB300 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[23:17] <wxl> that
[23:18] <wumuckl> yes i think this is my audio chip
[23:18] <KM0201> no thinking
[23:18] <KM0201> it is
[23:18] <KM0201> lol
[23:19] <wumuckl> whats sofunny?
[23:19] <KM0201> if it were me
[23:19] <wxl> there was a bug with this in karmic
[23:19] <wumuckl> ???
[23:19] <KM0201> i would try installing pulseaudio, thats what i always do when i have sound probs.
[23:19] <KM0201> wxl: i was just looking at that as well.
[23:19] <wumuckl> with apt-get?
[23:19] <KM0201> wumuckl: sure, you can use apt-get   sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pavucontrol
[23:19] <wxl> wumuckl: hold on that's a somewhat drastic solution
[23:20] <KM0201> drastic?
[23:20] <wxl> let's see if we can find something simpler!
[23:20] <KM0201> lol
[23:21] <wumuckl> ok, i already klickes 2 days through many forums and didnt find a solution
[23:21] <KM0201> is that a fairly new laptop?... don't think i've saw that chipset before
[23:21] <wumuckl> no its a old tower..ö.
[23:22] <wumuckl> a fujitsu siemens
[23:22] <wxl> what do you get with aplay -l?
[23:22] <wumuckl> no soundcards
[23:23] <KM0201> and the truth shall set you free.
[23:23] <wumuckl> ?
[23:24] <KM0201> i'd install pulseaudio, but... thats just me.
[23:24] <wxl> let's see what modules are loaded if any
[23:24] <wumuckl> what is pulseaudio?
[23:24] <wxl> wumuckl: ALT-F2 and `lspci -v | grep -i audio -A 7 | pastebinit`
[23:25] <wumuckl> lspci -v | grep -i audio -A 7 | pastebinit
[23:25] <wumuckl> oh sorry+
[23:25] <wxl> np
[23:25] <wumuckl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/861237/
[23:25] <wumuckl> ok?
[23:26] <KM0201> "capabilities: <access denied>
[23:26] <KM0201> i have no idea what that means, but it doesn't sound good
[23:27] <wxl> shoot i gotta jet for a sec
[23:27] <wumuckl> its strange i have installed ubuntu and the chip worked with the live system but not when then installing was finished, after this i did install luibuntu and the chip dont work ;(
[23:28] <wxl> i'd search that snd-atiixp module and see if it's problematic
[23:28] <wxl> i don't think the access denied is an issue
[23:28] <KM0201> cough, pulseaudio, cough
[23:29] <wxl> or you could use KM0201's lame solution
[23:29] <wxl> ;)
[23:29] <KM0201> lol
[23:29] <KM0201> wohhoo
[23:29] <wumuckl> sorry i dont understand, thats the alsa driver? where can i find tzhis
[23:29] <wxl> "oh my ubuntu doesn't work" "oh did you try installing windows?"
[23:29] <wxl> :/
[23:29] <wxl> anyways bbl
[23:29] <KM0201> later
[23:29] <KM0201> wumuckl: just try this first..
[23:29] <KM0201> sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pavucontrol
[23:29] <KM0201> and let all that stuff install
[23:30] <wumuckl> ok, i will try
[23:30] <wumuckl> thank you for your help
[23:31] <wumuckl> but what is it, pulseaudio?
[23:31] <KM0201> it's just another sound driver.
[23:31] <KM0201> basically
[23:31] <wumuckl> ok
[23:32] <KM0201> i'm not sure i'd draw the comparison to "oh my ubuntu doesn't work, did you try installing windows".. but.. lol
[23:32] <wumuckl> after this i zhave to reboot, right?
[23:32] <KM0201> wumuckl: probably..
[23:32] <KM0201> i'm not sure how to manually start the daemon, so it would be easiest
[23:34] <KM0201> wumuckl: is it installing ok?
[23:35] <wumuckl> yes
[23:35] <wumuckl> i do the reboot now
[23:35] <KM0201> ok
[23:38] <phillw> iceroot: are you on the lubuntu-qa list?
[23:39] <wumuckl_> no, notjhing happened
[23:39] <phillw> KM0201: I did see a bug raised where live-cd user was not in the audio group, not sure if it is still live or applicable,
[23:40] <KM0201> dunno
[23:40] <KM0201> wumuckl_: go to menu/sound and video/pulse audio volume control
[23:40] <wumuckl_> where is menu/sounbd
[23:41] <KM0201> menu?... thatrs the little bird in the panel
[23:41] <KM0201> at least i think its a bird
[23:41] <wumuckl_> in lubuntu?
[23:41] <KM0201> it's definitely not a plane or superman
[23:41] <KM0201> yes, in lubuntu
[23:41] <phillw> KM0201: can you /join #lubuntu-offtopic
[23:42] <KM0201> just go to your Lubuntu menu, then sound and video, then pulse audio volume control
[23:42] <KM0201> i'm there
[23:43] <wumuckl_> sorry i cant find, i m from germany its in german, may be its different?
[23:43] <KM0201> wumuckl_: did you mange to get pulseaudio volume control up?
[23:43] <KM0201> ..
[23:43] <KM0201> do you have a sound and video optin in your menu?
[23:43] <wumuckl_> i have it
[23:43] <KM0201> ok
[23:44] <KM0201> in that, do you have something like "Pulse Audio Volume Control:
[23:44] <KM0201> "
[23:44] <wumuckl_> yes i have itr
[23:44] <KM0201> ok, opent hat
[23:44] <wumuckl_> ok
[23:44] <KM0201> and you should see a tab called "Output devices"
[23:44] <wumuckl_> ya
[23:45] <KM0201> whats it say there?
[23:45] <wumuckl_> dummy-ausgabe
[23:45] <wumuckl_> ausgabe means outpout
[23:45] <wumuckl_> output
[23:45] <KM0201> ok
[23:45] <KM0201> do you see where it says "port"
[23:45] <wumuckl_> then there are 2 faders
[23:45] <KM0201> should say something like "analog output" next to it
[23:46] <KM0201> it's not muted right? (you can move the sliders)
[23:46] <wumuckl_> yes they are on 100 %
[23:47] <KM0201> wumuckl_: ok, but you can move them right? (if you can't move them your sound is muted)
[23:47] <wumuckl_> but i can dfecide between hardware or virtual output devices and its only a virtual one, may be this is wrong?
[23:47] <wumuckl_> yes i can move them
[23:47] <KM0201> ok
[23:48] <KM0201> click on the configuration tab
[23:48] <wumuckl_> i cant find analog output
[23:48] <KM0201> whats it say next to "profile" on the configuration tab
[23:49] <wumuckl_> on the konfiguration tab there is a message like no cards existing to configurate
[23:49] <KM0201> hmm, seems thats your problem
[23:49] <KM0201> what version of lubuntu did you install?
[23:50] <wumuckl_> 10.04
[23:50] <KM0201> i'd try the current version.
[23:50] <KM0201> 11.10
[23:50] <wumuckl_> you think it can help to install a newer version?
[23:50] <wumuckl_> or older?
[23:51] <KM0201> newer
[23:51] <wumuckl_> ah ok thanks
[23:51] <KM0201> 10.04 was the first lubuntu release.. frankly, i found it to be problematic, even if it was LTS
[23:51] <KM0201> 12.04 should be much better if you want LTS, but it won't be out for a couple of months, you can just upgrade 11.10 to 12.04
[23:51] <wumuckl_> ok, i chose it because LTS
[23:52] <iceroot> lubuntu does not have lts
[23:52] <iceroot> not 10.04 and not 12.04
[23:52] <KM0201> LTS is pointless for 99% of home users, unless you're paying for support, or you're supporting multiple machines
[23:52] <iceroot> both are supported 18 month
[23:52] <wumuckl_> canm i update out of my current version?
[23:52] <KM0201> iceroot: really?
[23:52] <KM0201> interesting
[23:52] <iceroot> KM0201: yes
[23:52] <wumuckl_> or its better to mske complete new
[23:52] <KM0201> lol, guess i should pay  more attention to release notes
[23:52] <KM0201> wumuckl_: i never upgrade, i always clean install, but that is entirely up to you
[23:52] <iceroot> KM0201: lubuntu is supported 18 month, all other packages which are also used in gnome/unity are 5 years supported
[23:52] <KM0201> gotcha.
[23:53] <wumuckl_> ok nice info
[23:53] <iceroot> KM0201: apt-cache show packagename   there is a line "support" there you can see how long it is supported
[23:53] <KM0201> wumuckl_: is it a single boot machine, or a dual boot?
[23:53] <wumuckl_> its single boot
[23:53] <iceroot> e.g. Supported: 5y
[23:53] <KM0201> wumuckl_: ok, so it should be easy to reinstall.
[23:54] <wumuckl_> yes but i have no cd or dvd right now
[23:54] <KM0201> can it boot usb?
[23:54] <wumuckl_> i've already downloaded the iso
[23:55] <wumuckl_> no i tried but couldn get it
[23:55] <KM0201> if the machine can boot usb, and you have a 2gig thumbdrive... you can put the iso on a thumb drive
[23:55] <KM0201> you tried... can the machine not boot USB, or did you have trouble setting up the USB>?
[23:55] <wumuckl_> yes but it cant boot usb
[23:56] <KM0201> gotcha, just making sure i understood
[23:56] <wumuckl_> or how can i sure know if it can or not
[23:56] <KM0201> it should be in the BIOS
[23:56] <KM0201> how old is the machine?
[23:57] <wumuckl_> i had a stick and boot another machine from this stick but i coulnd find an option withn boot from usb on this machine
[23:57] <KM0201> it should be in the BIOS...
[23:57] <KM0201> assuming the PC is within 5yrs old, it should boot USB just fine
[23:57] <wumuckl_> 5years
[23:57] <KM0201> 6-8yrs, it gets kinda shaky..
[23:57] <phillw> wumuckl_: drat, 10.04 was very young :/
[23:57] <wumuckl_> ^
[23:58] <KM0201> wumuckl_: i woul dthink it can boot usb
[23:58] <KM0201> have you checked the BIOS?
[23:58] <wumuckl_> yes
[23:58] <KM0201> no USB option in the "boot sequence" section?
[23:58] <wumuckl_> i found in the boot priorities an optiuon FDD
[23:58] <KM0201> thats floppy disk
[23:59] <wumuckl_> i think its the card reader
[23:59] <wumuckl_> ???
[23:59] <wumuckl_> ah ok
[23:59] <KM0201> no
[23:59] <wumuckl_> thanks for this information
[23:59] <wumuckl_> i found no usb
[23:59] <KM0201> those card readers are an IDE device usually (on a machine that age) or nowdays, they are a sata device
[23:59] <KM0201> then it can't boot usb
[23:59] <phillw> if you cannot get a newer iso, then it *is* possible to update to 10.10 --> 11.04 --> 11.10 But a newer CD would be much better
[23:59] <wumuckl_> :(