[15:02] <reve99> congratz
[15:03] <thelinuxer> reve99: thanks :)
[15:05] <reve99> so any special preparation for the event
[15:05] <reve99> or u will just attend the event like any one else
[15:06] <thelinuxer> we are actually working on some rough edges
[15:06] <thelinuxer> we will have a booth isA if everything goes well
[15:06] <thelinuxer> and you will be able to meet us their :)
[15:07] <reve99> available if you needed any help
[15:07] <reve99> u know who am i exactly right ?!
[15:07] <reve99> I'm Mohamed El Feky
[15:07] <thelinuxer> reve99: oh didn't know until u told me :D
[15:08] <thelinuxer> can you please send an email to anas telling him you want to help ?
[15:08] <thelinuxer> cause he's the project owner
[15:08] <reve99> no prob ....will talk to him
[15:08] <thelinuxer> reve99: cool
[15:10] <reve99> lol
[17:02] <ashams> uys, can you please mention in the topic of this channel that it's logged.
[17:03] <ashams> Freenode requires that users should know that their activity can be logged
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[17:04] <ashams> * - take place where the channel owner(s) has requested this
[17:04] <ashams> * - and users of the channel are all made aware (if you are
[17:04] <ashams> * - publically logging your channel, you may wish to keep a
[17:04] <ashams> * - notice in topic and perhaps as a on-join message).</quote>
[17:04] <ashams> thelinuxer, EgyParadox ^ :)
[17:05] <thelinuxer> ashams: of course EgyParadox please add this to the topic of the channel
[17:05] <ashams> thelinuxer, Thank you, I appreciate it :-)
[17:05] <thelinuxer> ashams: sure ya man :)
[17:07] <thelinuxer> ashams: i having trouble with the saas-class homework
[17:07] <thelinuxer> i don't know when am i going to prepare for the freaking session :D
[17:07] <ashams> EgyParadox, Thanks :D
[17:07] <thelinuxer> EgyParadox: thanks man
[17:07] <ashams> thelinuxer, saas class ezzay ay3ni ? :)
[17:08] <thelinuxer> u know about the berkly saas class ?
[17:08] <thelinuxer> someone shared this a couple of month ago
[17:08] <ashams> no
[17:08] <thelinuxer> i joined this webclass
[17:08] <thelinuxer> and we have homework
[17:08] <thelinuxer> and i am actually stuck :D
[17:08] <ashams> hahahaha
[17:08] <thelinuxer> on very basic stuff if u ask me
[17:08] <thelinuxer> shakly kebert :D
[17:08] <ashams> I was about to say it :D
[17:08] <thelinuxer> lool
[17:09] <ashams> so, how can I help dude :)
[17:09] <thelinuxer> i don't think u can help me
[17:09] <thelinuxer> unless u decide to give the session ;)
[17:09] <ashams> session of packaging?
[17:09] <ashams> no way
[17:09] <thelinuxer> yep
[17:10] <thelinuxer> lool
[17:10] <ashams> NO WAY
[17:10] <thelinuxer> thought so
[17:10] <ashams> :P
[17:10] <ashams> I can't, I don't know it
[17:10] <thelinuxer> i am not that good actually ..
[17:10] <ashams> I was relying on you to learn :)
[17:10] <ashams> not a big problem just start engines :)
[17:12] <ashams> thelinuxer, Enta hatgeeb wara delwa2ty ? Ay 7aga ya man, keda walla keda I will kill you As2ela :)
[17:12] <thelinuxer> !
[17:12] <thelinuxer> mashy we will see
[17:12] <ashams> cool
[17:13] <thelinuxer> prepare ur questions so i can actually do my research and answer them
[17:13] <ashams> ok, good point
[17:13] <ashams> give me 24 hrs
[17:13] <thelinuxer> deneela 3alaya !
[17:13] <EgyParadox> Thanks for joining reve99
[17:14] <thelinuxer> i had the correct answer 30 mins ago!
[17:14] <thelinuxer> i was chasing wild geese!
[17:14] <ashams> thelinuxer, what are doing right know, cuz I can imagine some nad things
[17:14] <ashams> bad*
[17:15] <thelinuxer> imagine bad things ezay ?
[17:15] <thelinuxer> i am doing my homework, didn't have any for so long el sara7a :D
[17:15] <ashams> thelinuxer, ha2ollak ba3dain :P
[17:15] <thelinuxer> mashy
[17:30] <reve99> sorry guys i was kind of busy working ...eating
[17:48] <ashams> thelinuxer, I have to move the wiki.u.com/EgyptTeam/ArabNet section to wiki.u.com/Arabnet, it is making problems with Palestine team, it shows up Egypt Team/ on the fb links!!!
[17:49] <thelinuxer> don't!
[17:49] <thelinuxer> that's like saying Arabnet is a partnet with ubuntu
[17:49] <bahaa2008> how are you guys
[17:49] <thelinuxer> there is no problem that the url shows EgyptTeam
[17:49] <thelinuxer> and u can copy the page their if u want
[17:49] <thelinuxer> hi bahaa2008
[17:49] <ashams> bahaa2008, Hi o/
[17:49] <thelinuxer> how r u ?
[17:50] <bahaa2008> fine
[17:50] <ashams> thelinuxer, I an't make him understand to change the link title on fb we khalas
[17:50] <bahaa2008> still alive
[17:50] <ashams> bahaa2008, lucky you :)
[17:51] <thelinuxer> ashams:  i don't understand what u mean ..
[17:51] <ashams> one sec
[17:52] <thelinuxer> ok
[17:53] <bahaa2008> moved my main system to debian :)
[17:54] <thelinuxer> bahaa2008: that's actually pretty good :)
[17:54] <thelinuxer> developing kaman ?
[17:54] <ashams> bahaa2008, Congrats :-D
[17:55] <bahaa2008> debian unstable :)
[17:55] <bahaa2008> it doesn't defer too much
[17:56] <bahaa2008> mostly the same
[17:58] <ashams> bahaa2008, just some package upgrades and bug fixes :)
[17:59] <bahaa2008> but it's more traditional
[17:59] <bahaa2008> keep the gnu/linux traditions :)
[17:59] <bahaa2008> and that's what i'm looking for
[17:59] <bahaa2008> ubuntu trying to be the new Apple
[18:00] <bahaa2008> and that's what I hate
[18:00] <ashams> it trays hard to reach the average user
[18:00] <ashams> and if it's apple's way, then no problem
[18:00] <bahaa2008> I didn't leave windows to get back to another closed system "some how"
[18:01] <bahaa2008> I don't like anyone to lead me in his own way
[18:01] <bahaa2008> I want to take my way
[18:01] <ashams> Mac gives a really good user experience
[18:01] <ashams> what you mean?
[18:01] <bahaa2008> why to change to this unity thing
[18:02] <bahaa2008> i like classic way
[18:02] <bahaa2008> i'm not comfortable with this change in UI
[18:02] <ashams> yeahm it's the hardest age in Ubuntu's life
[18:02] <ashams> no kidding
[18:03] <bahaa2008> I'm not too old linux user
[18:03] <bahaa2008> but i like Gnome way
[18:03] <ashams> gnome 3 or 2 :)
[18:03] <bahaa2008> 2
[18:04] <bahaa2008> I'm classic :)
[18:04] <bahaa2008> I don't even like gnome shell
[18:05] <reve99> sorry for intruption
[18:05] <ashams> well, there's a global belief that user needs have changed and thus should the ui do
[18:05] <ashams> reve99, soot
[18:05] <ashams> shoot*
[18:05] <reve99> i like gnome 3
[18:05] <reve99> and i like unity
[18:05] <reve99> and u don't like them
[18:06] <reve99> because u got used to doing every thing by hand
[18:06] <reve99> and customizing every thing
[18:06] <reve99> u don't like getting someone to do it for u
[18:06] <bahaa2008> that's why i moved to linux
[18:06] <reve99> i think it's all about usability
[18:06] <bahaa2008> to have my own system
[18:06] <reve99> and linux big issue is about getting new users
[18:07] <reve99> and getting new users means not making them learn how to do all the work
[18:07] <bahaa2008> usability vs features
[18:07] <ashams> bahaa2008, not necessarily!
[18:07] <reve99> yep
[18:08] <reve99> features was always  back there in linux
[18:08] <reve99> but u always needed who tells u how to use them
[18:08] <reve99> and for some how u do not need them all
[18:08] <reve99> but usability is about making the user find those features easily
[18:09] <reve99> and make best use of them
[18:09] <bahaa2008> i mean features that are accessible
[18:09] <bahaa2008> not hidden one
[18:09] <bahaa2008> it's not about linux
[18:10] <bahaa2008> blender, 3d max as examples
[18:10] <reve99> ok let me get u another example
[18:10] <reve99> u use twitter or facebook !?
[18:11] <bahaa2008> of course
[18:11] <bahaa2008> to keep a good representation of both it's not easy thing
[18:11] <bahaa2008> and you had to learn people how to use it
[18:11] <bahaa2008> and get to the hidden features
[18:12] <bahaa2008> not hidden
[18:12] <bahaa2008> you had to gave groups
[18:12] <bahaa2008> and so on
[18:12] <bahaa2008> tabs
[18:13] <reve99> ok what do u think about the new twitter style
[18:13] <reve99> u think it's  strange right
[18:13] <reve99> and the older one
[18:13] <reve99> was strange too
[18:14] <reve99> people don't know what they really want
[18:14] <reve99> u should force them to use something
[18:14] <reve99> then they get used to it
[18:14] <bahaa2008> i don't like the right thing
[18:14] <reve99> hhhhhhh we all don't
[18:15] <reve99> not me
[18:15] <reve99> but it's all about the change
[18:15] <reve99> human nature doesn't like to change
[18:15] <reve99> but change sometime gets better
[18:15] <bahaa2008> may be
[18:15] <bahaa2008> you meat it's about get used to something
[18:15] <bahaa2008> may be
[18:16] <bahaa2008> mean**
[18:17] <reve99> we can make it meat
[18:18] <reve99> i'm kind of hungery and still at work