[00:15] <fluvvell> superm1, mrand and anyone else listening to my ramblings - I added a user via the tty console, and was able to log in with that. The ubuntu user will NOT let me log in (apart from via tty)
[00:17] <fluvvell> but only after adding the user to a group called nopasswdlogin
[00:17] <fluvvell> now I'm in, there is no way of configuring the network.  Honestly, was this disk ever tested???
[00:46] <superm1> fluvvell: when safe graphics mode kicks in (X server crashing) all bets are off on how things work
[00:46] <superm1> unfortunately
[00:46] <superm1> but it sounds like you are hitting more problems than most people would when this would happen
[00:47] <superm1> on the disk, at the boot menu, have you tried to just pick "Install Mythbuntu"?  It boots to a special X session that if the standard driver can't handle your hardware will fall back to VESA to let you install
[00:47] <superm1> usually that works for most people who hit issues
[00:53] <superm1> it does sound like you must have some fairly modern hardware if X is crashing and you can't seem to connect to the network at all
[00:58] <fluvvell> superm1, I don't actually want to install, just boot and test some hardware. I can get into an x session with all the mucking around I've done but still it seems broken, no access to Network tools on the desktop.  I need this to work to support a myth user who is 240Km away from me whose new card doesn't work properly in his 20.04 myth install
[00:59] <fluvvell> sorry 10.04
[01:00] <fluvvell> I have dual core AMD hardware and Nvidia 9600GT graphics card, its only a couple of years old
[01:42] <rhpot1991> 9600 should work just fine
[01:42] <rhpot1991> thats what I have
[01:42] <rhpot1991> fluvvell: try the "install" option just to see if it goes through
[01:43] <rhpot1991> also if he upgrades its a bit of a different process than what you are testing
[01:44] <fluvvell> rhpot1991, yeah nothing wrong with hardware.  I would but thats not the point, I am trying to solve an issue with a running 10.04 install that had a Tiivii 420 card added that did not show up. Our card supplier said "try booting with a newer distro to see if it detects it correctly"
[01:44] <fluvvell> unfortunately the machine is about 240Km away from me, I support by remote connection. But not with a live cd, with out a few tweaks and with this live cd? Yeah I'm in a bind
[01:45] <fluvvell> yeah its a different process, I agree. But if the upgrade goes wrong
[01:46] <fluvvell> Oh I'm repeating myself all over sorry.
[01:50] <rhpot1991> fluvvell: yep remote is hardthat way
[01:50] <rhpot1991> upgrade over ssh and hope
[01:52] <fluvvell> That is of course an option, I have done that a number of times. The plan was to test the card, then if it works on the newer os and kernel, do the upgrade. I might just try a different live myth disk
[01:52] <fluvvell> Does anyone feel like downloading the cd and test booting it somewhere?
[12:01] <dkam> hi guys - at some point my mythbuntu box stopped automatically starting X and mythfrontend - now I'm trying to get it going again.   Is the fronted normally run by the mythtv user?
[12:09] <dkam> Huh - thanks to the link to the forums, autologin now works, but mythfrontend isn't starting.
[12:17] <dkam> Looks like  lightdm isn't starting mythfrontend - any tips?
[12:33] <dkam> sshing in and "export DISPLAY=:0.0 ; mythfrontend &"  does the job - but how do I get mythfrontend to start by itself?