[00:11] anyone around to help me with server crashing a few hours ago? related to apache i think [00:12] stgraber: one other thing: the default fssize with -B lvm is 500M, which isn't big enough for the GINOURMOUS ubuntu-cloud image [00:12] so i'll probably bump that to 1G :( [00:12] also i need to know why on restart ubuntu sets my apache modules based on some 'default' [00:13] i dunno, maybe i need to detect the templates and make it conditional. but that's fugly [00:14] wonderman: if it crashed, it's probbably better to open a bug - so that there's a place to collect all the relevant info [00:14] hallyn what if its not a bug? but my configs [00:15] if it's not a bug, it may get marked invalid, but not until we've been able to help you [00:15] hallyn: 1G has been my default size for containers (vserver, vz, lxc) for years, so I'm fine with that ;) [00:15] stgraber: oh, ok, i'll do that then [00:15] wonderman: what sort of crash then? [00:15] let me pastebin some relavant [00:16] OOM [00:17] http://pastebin.com/XnirkVnd [00:17] Feb 27 15:21:59 server1 kernel: [ 1321.513390] Out of memory: kill process 1595 (apache2) score 1225215 or a child [00:17] it swapped :O === sixstringsg|afk is now known as sixstringsg [00:31] New bug: #942338 in lxc (universe) "Make default lvm blockdev size 1G" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/942338 [00:56] Can someone help me? I've installed postfix, imap, etc. I can send and receive emails when doing it from terminal but I tried connecting through thunderbird and it won't let me. [00:59] That sounds like a problem for #thunderbird [00:59] Probably on irc.mozilla.org [00:59] No it's actually my server. [01:00] That's for sure. [01:00] It's something with imap [01:00] I installed roundcube and it spits out "problem connecting to imap server" [01:01] imap is a protocol, not a daemon. [01:02] I realize that, I'm just telling you what is going on. [01:02] Any idea what could cause such problem? [01:03] What imap daemon are you using? [01:04] I'm new to this, I just did what the guide told me to do, so how would I find that out? [01:04] What guide? [01:04] ubuntu guide [01:05] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto [01:05] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Roundcube [01:05] Don't follow that. Couriour is old crap. [01:05] *Courier [01:05] =[ [01:05] So what do I do? [01:05] There is an official guide which uses dovecot, it is linked from topic for 10.04 version [01:06] topic as in /topic [01:06] Huh? [01:06] Where is that guide? [01:07] wonderman: apache is the one that got killed, but it looks just as likely that cron executing /usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -config=awstats -update >/dev/nul was what made you run out of mem [01:09] twb, I'm sorry, I'm new to it all. [01:10] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/dovecot-server.html [01:10] Nevermind, found it. [01:11] twb, do I need to uninstall all the stuff I just installed? [01:14] If you are running 10.10 that is the right URL yes. [01:14] You should probably uninstall courier stuff, uninstalling postfix is probably not necessary [01:25] i disabled that cron, but that was the default one installed by ubuntu when i installed awstats, and there is no site in that location or anything, i have another that runs and that hasnt crashed in the past [01:26] o well, ill see how it goes [01:26] Isn't there something better than awstats by now? [01:26] Like maybe google analytics [01:27] IIRC when $boss wanted shiny graphs I said "go use analytics and stop bothering me" === lifeless_ is now known as lifeless === sixstringsg is now known as sixstringsg|away [03:02] Is there a channel for apcupsd? [03:28] man, the internet here is so bad :( [03:28] 300ms pings. and >50% packet loss [03:40] hallyn: I just saw Daniel's e-mail about LXC 0.8, do you know if there's any patch that we still need to forward upstream? [03:41] stgraber: there probably are. well there are some which aren't in bc they rely on our lxcbr0. i need to check what others i haven't pushed [03:41] bbl [03:59] stgraber: http://paste.ubuntu.com/860057/ i think that's the list of not yet applied patches [04:02] no, 0048-warn-if-container-started is there === sixstringsg|away is now known as sixstringsg [04:48] hey guys, I have a RAID 1 question [04:48] I would like to know if my setup would allow hot swapping [04:55] SATA drives are always hot-swappable; bays are not. [04:55] mdadm should allow hot-swapping of a RAID1 node just fine, but you will need to ssh in and tell mdadm to fail/remove/add the node [05:25] twb: thanks, sorry I left the keyboard for a moment [05:25] sorry I asked the question here because I didn't really know where to ask but my question was more purely hardware related (not so much to Ubuntu server) [05:26] I'm indeed using SATA drives, it's a hardware RAID 1 on Intel Server Board S3420GP [05:28] Don't use ICH10R raid [05:28] It's a fakeraid [05:29] In fact, unless you paid at least $200 for your RAID card, and it has a BBU or equivalent, it is useless fakeraid and you should stick to mdadm [05:56] hi all [05:56] It's been about 40 something hours that I'm awake trying fix this mail server and it keeps giving me problems, I need help desperately, is anyone willing to help set it up the right way? Please don't ask what is the problem, because I messed with so much settings that nothing is working now. [06:10] twb: thanks agaih, let me Google this ICH10R you mentioned [06:10] dindeman: ICH10R is your southbridge controller [06:10] dindeman: i.e. the thing on your motherboard that gives you raid [06:10] oh k [06:10] so sorry, what's the issue with this controller ? [06:12] it's fakeraid [06:13] so you're telling me I'd better off use software raid instead of that ? === aarcane_ is now known as aarcane [06:20] twb: thanks for your tips anyway, since this will be a ESXi host I might pursue with VMware peepz to see what's their take on raid when it comes to ESXi [06:21] offhand i do not believe esxi support intel storage array [06:21] "intel storage matrix" sorry [06:22] yeah http://communities.vmware.com/message/1876032?tstart=0 [06:22] the Matrix RAID from Intel ? (checking your link) [06:23] yeah the raid onboard the ICH chipset [06:23] there's actually two [06:24] ESRT2 and Matrix [06:24] your link sort of mentions Matrix, ESRT2 seems more recent [06:25] I can just try any, install ESXi and see whether there is some support about RAID from the vSphere client [06:26] you'll know if it wont work if the installer exits with an screen that says no supported storage adapter found [06:26] (to point out the obvious) [06:27] ah ok [06:27] Any mail experts here? [06:28] If it's esxi you can't use mdadm [06:28] humungulous: what about hot swapping ? [06:28] I assumed since you were here, you were running ubuntu on it [06:29] esxi is its own crackhead linux distro [06:29] dindeman: He left the channel. [06:29] twb: sure, my mistake, I wanted to ask general questions about raid in fact and wasn't too sure where to ask [06:29] No problem [06:30] I will pop by #vmware and see what's peepz take on this over there [06:30] Either buy an expensive RAID card, use mdadm (you can't on ESXi), or use shit raid and deal with when it inevitably falls over and dies [06:30] twb: what about hot swapping tho ? [06:30] what is the meaning or purpose of "sudo pkill -9 squid" ? [06:30] doubt ich10r supports it [06:31] linocisco: it sends a KILL to all processes named squid [06:31] linocisco: see man 7 signal [06:31] twb, when should I run this command , after stoping squid or starting squid? [06:31] twb: thanks tho for your input on this, bye [06:32] linocisco: never [06:32] dont understand [06:32] linocisco: who told you to run it === sixstringsg is now known as sixstringsg|away [07:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnBG_LEvvVw told me [07:15] twb, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnBG_LEvvVw told me to run [07:22] good morning all, what's the word on the street about beta 1? [07:23] rickspencer3: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.04-beta-1 [07:23] hi humungulous [07:24] rickspencer3: possibly you can find people discussing it in #ubuntu+1 [07:25] thanks for the suggestion humungulous [07:51] hi all === smb` is now known as smb [07:59] hi all, who have done setup for failover between two ISP links? [08:05] linocisco: do you mean with BGP routing? [08:06] linocisco: or something simpler? [08:06] SpamapS, there is no specific protocols. ISP is not sharing anything with us. THey allow us only port 8080,443 and NSlookup for DNS 53 [08:07] linocisco: doesn't sound like much of a "service provider" [08:08] SpamapS, I agree. They bought public IPs and they sells us private subnetted IPs [08:40] Hi [08:40] how to download squid package and how to install ? [09:24] Daviey: I'm curious.. How long time does it take to install a box using netinst these days? [09:27] soren: Honestly, i couldn't tell you from a wallclock perspective, but it's better than it was. [09:27] soren: We have some ideas to make it faster for 12.10.. [09:27] Daviey: Is it more like 2 minutes than 10 minutes? [09:28] probably ~4 [09:28] Daviey: Cool. [09:28] soren: It can be done in the time it takes me to make a cuppa. [09:29] soren: One idea we are thinking about for next cycle is using squashfs on the server :) [09:29] ie, like Desktop. [09:29] Daviey: I've come up with a little interesting hack that does it in ~30 seconds. [09:30] It's all cheating, of course. [09:30] soren: oh? [09:30] but it works. [09:30] I'm using the cloud images. [09:30] and qemu-img from initramfs. [09:30] Shoving the image onto the disk. [09:30] Fetching it over http. [09:30] heh, interesting concept... how big is your initramfs? [09:31] Good questino. Let me check. [09:31] soren: Couldn't you loopback mount the .img, and use that as the rootfs? [09:32] maybe pivot_root [09:33] Daviey: It costs ~3 MB in the initramfs. [09:33] Yes, but then I'd have to use raw images. [09:33] Right now, I'm using a qcow2. [09:34] ...which is loads faster on account of not having to transfer all the unused bits of the original disk. [09:34] right [09:35] soren: is it persistent ? [09:35] As in? [09:36] soren: save data across reboots? [09:37] Daviey: WEll, sure. It's for installing, not for "live CD"-ish sort of stuff. [09:38] I don't use the image after it's done installing. [09:38] It boots into the initramfs, fetches the image and writes it to disk, and reboots. [09:38] soren: so do you dd? Gah, where is the script? :) [09:38] Done. [09:39] No, I use qemu-img. [09:39] qemu-img convert http:/blah -O host_device /dev/sda [09:39] -ish. [09:39] soren: I think i prefer the squashfs-in-di approach TBH. [09:40] soren: then you touch users and hostname? [09:40] I don't do any of that yet. [09:40] Hmm, that might be inappropriate [09:40] ...but I expect to try to rely on cloud-init for stuff like that. [09:40] soren: right [09:41] soren: There will be a UDS session purely about this. [09:43] Daviey: I'm not sure I understand you squashfs-in-di idea. [09:45] soren: Same as ubiquity on the desktop, but for alternate/di [09:45] Daviey: How would that work over the network? [09:45] so a satic image that gets unpacked to disk, and customised based on instaler options. [09:45] (ie users / hostna,e / network config) [09:46] soren: I imagine the netinstaler would have to wget the squashfs for mini.iso. [09:46] * Daviey adds some extra l's [09:47] Where would it put it? [09:47] "I don't know" is a valid answer :) [09:47] I have an educatumacated guess, but i don't know [09:48] soren: Colin sees it as viable fwiw [09:48] I see it working for ISOs. [09:48] I just wonder how you'd do it over the network. [09:49] soren: I imagine the squashfs would be either on cdimage/releases or the same part of the archive which houses the mini.iso [09:50] Daviey: Perhaps I'm missing something.. You need to mount the squashfs somewhere and then copy it to a fresh filesystem... right? [09:50] soren: Hmm, well i don't want to speak for Colin... but the way i see it. [09:50] mini.iso gets you into d-i [09:50] wget http://squashfs [09:50] dd squashfs to /target [09:50] Storing it where? [09:50] New bug: #942487 in openssh (main) "scp -f option not documented" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/942487 [09:51] Sorry, go on. [09:51] soren: You don't think we have enough ramfs these days? [09:51] customise /target based on preseed [09:52] soren: I suppose the other option is that the squashfs is exposed via iscsi|nfs .. OR part of the server-mini.iso (but that is no longer mini :) [09:54] My motivation is: I want to unify the way I provision cloud instances and metal. I.e. shove an image onto a disk and rely on cloud-init to do the customisation. I get annoyed having to deal with two completely separate systems for this stuff. [09:55] ...and I think we've got the whole shared-image-followed-by-first-boot-config solved pretty well with cloud-init. [09:55] So why not use it? [09:55] I'm having some networking problems I need to solve, but it's mostly functional. [09:56] And then I need to find a few to feed data to cloud-init. [09:56] zul: essex-3 has some new python deps, http://paste.ubuntu.com/860317/ I am finally able to get it working from source :) [09:56] soren: right! [09:57] i meant keystone essex-3 :P [10:04] hello, does anyone know why the squid package on ubuntu was not compiled with the --enable-ssl flag? is there a reason, or should I just compile own with it? I want to be able to use the https_port directive in the configuration [10:04] http://www1.it.squid-cache.org/Versions/v3/3.HEAD/cfgman/https_port.html [10:05] morning o/ [10:06] mandel: the squid package comes straight from debian, I'd suggest building your own package in your PPA, filling a bug and attaching a patch to it [10:06] lynxman, you could have said that too me yesterday, puto!! ;) [10:07] mandel: it was just too fun replying "lol" instead ;) [10:07] mandel: if you need any help let me know, I'll be glad to build the package for you [10:08] lynxman, don't say it to loud or I'll delegate hehe [10:08] mandel: that's why I'm offering, I like being your helper ;) [10:09] lynxman, if is not too much work for you, I'd really appreciate it [10:09] mandel: it's really not, let me fix it up fo ryou [10:09] lynxman, I'll get you a beer whenever I go to london or barcelona :) [10:09] lynxman, thx! [10:10] during an installation with apt-get install, and if I press Ctrl+C to cancel. what will be the effect in system? [10:12] linocisco: packages half installed, mayhem, dogs and cats living together [10:13] linocisco: but just issue "apt-get -f install" and it should just catch up [10:13] ok [10:13] thanks [10:13] can I clear traces of that cancel by using apt-get -f install ? [10:14] linocisco: most of the time it should yeah [10:15] lynxman, thanks [10:24] hi [10:26] I always get this error in my auth.log: Feb 28 11:23:49 catacombe sshd[18795]: Failed password for root from 207.183.255.142 port 38861 ssh2 [10:26] what does it mean ? [10:27] some bot trying to log on my server ? [10:29] maxagaz: most likely, yes. [10:30] greppy, what can I do against that ? [10:30] Daviey: zul or adam_g: jamespage gave me your contacts because I'm having problems with my openstack implementation and he thought you might be able to help. I have four servers, one running all the nova, glance and swift services (which I'll refer to as the controller), the others just running nova-compute and nova-network. I've got two nics per server, using a vlan config. If my instance runs up on the [10:30] controller I can ssh to it and ping to it. If it ends up on any of the compute nodes, it's running but I can't connect to it. The console log shows it waiting for 120 seconds for a network connection, which it never gets. The logs are here: nova-compute.log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/860301/ nova-network.log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/860304/ Any clues? [10:30] greppy: it's polluting my logs [10:31] I have many things like "Invalid user manikswe from 204.57.82.8" [10:31] maxagaz: you can do a couple of things, install fail2ban, block that IP using iptables, notify the owner of the IP of the attempted unauthorized access, move your ssh daemon to listen to a non-standard port, like 1422 instead of 22. [10:31] with different nicks, but same ip [10:33] greppy: great :-) [10:33] greppy: fail2ban works like a charm, I forgot it :) [10:34] I don't know why it's not installed by default on ubuntu server [10:34] hi [10:34] in nano, how could I see line no.? [10:35] maxagaz: because where do you draw the line then? what else should be installed by default? :) [10:35] linocisco: have you read the man page for nano? [10:35] greppy: hmm... fair enough [10:36] greppy, yes [10:36] davepigott: I'd say the nova-network configuration is borked somehow, could you please paste it somewhere? [10:36] davepigott: also it'd help pinging the #openstack channel [10:37] lynxman: Already pinged there but got nothing. Posted on the openstack forum as well. So far no response. [10:37] lynxman: Do you mean the nova.conf file? [10:37] linocisco: use 'nano -c' to invoke nano. [10:37] davepigott: I'd say from my experience that there's something not right either in the vlan creation or the nova.conf [10:37] * koolhead17 does whois lynxman to confirm if its really him!! :P [10:37] lynxman: OK. nova.conf on its way. One moment [10:38] davepigott: cool [10:38] greppy, no . not like that. like we can see line no. in gedit [10:39] lynxman: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/860354/ [10:39] lynxman: Same on all four servers [10:40] linocisco: not possible. use gedit then. [10:40] linocisco: or use vi [10:41] greppy, ok thanks. vi is more difficult than nano [10:41] greppy, thanks anyway [10:46] davepigott: Have you looked at this? http://wiki.openstack.org/VlanNetworkSetup [10:48] lynxman: No. First I've seen of it. I'll read through. You think my db is out of sync with the config? [10:48] davepigott: if you didn't do it then yeah :) [10:49] lynxman: Fair enough. :) [10:55] New bug: #942541 in nova (main) "Short descriptions mistakes" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/942541 [10:56] smoser: How easily could you be pursuaded to extend cloud-init to accept a url on the kernel command line where it should go and find its user-data and meta-data? [11:03] soren: if you offer him candy or a bug report I'm sure he'll be happy to have a look :) [11:10] soren: how're you doing btw, all good? [11:10] lynxman: OK. Database looks ok. I did do all that, based on the "Beginners guide" so it's fine. Or at least would seem to be. [11:11] davepigott: then I'd try to ping the openstack channel, I've never handled vlan connections on openstack myself :) [11:11] hey, can anyone tell me why this cron is running everyminute, for 1 hour, then stops > * */16 * * * curl --silent [11:11] davepigott: always used flat network [11:11] lynxman: OK. Thanks. I probably should have used flat network but not sure how to switch it over. [11:11] wonderman: because it's programmed to do so at 4pm (16:00) for every minute of that hour [11:11] davepigott: hmm good luck :) [11:12] i see, how would i make it do it every 16hours? [11:13] this should do it every 24hours > 0 0 * * * curl --silent [11:13] i also need one to run every 16hours [11:13] wonderman: 0 */16 * * * curl --silent [11:13] davepigott, how is the network switch configured? [11:14] wonderman: eitherway your mileage may vary, running something every 16 hours is a bit bizarre :) [11:14] jamespage: Pretty much as it came out of the box. Cisco switch. [11:14] hmm lol [11:14] davepigott, ah [11:14] jamespage: ah? [11:14] well, what its doing atm is totally wrong! [11:14] davepigott, one second [11:14] jamespage: sure [11:14] davepigott, I think that the switch needs some extra config [11:15] jamespage: To allow vlan? [11:15] i thought this is what i was doing 0 */16 * * * what is the difference, apart from the obvious, what does setting 0 mean over setting * ? [11:15] wonderman: 0 is minute 0 whereas * is every possible option in the minute, so every single min [11:15] davepigott, yes - the ports to your servers need to be trunk ports that support the VLAN's that you have configured nova with [11:15] ah ok [11:16] davepigott, I've not done that on cisco for a while [11:16] * jamespage tries to remember [11:16] jamespage: OK. Not over familiar with configuring cisco switches for that kind of thing. [11:16] davepigott, you might be better to not use VLAN mode and revert to one of the other networking types [11:17] jamespage: Ugh. How big a deal is that to undo it all and then re-do it? [11:18] jamespage: I have two switches. One on the main net, one on the private. Do they both need vlan config? [11:20] davepigott: I think this helps your config https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg05531.html [11:20] davepigott: you'd need to configure every switch port that is configured in vlan mode this way [11:21] * lynxman thankfully is good at Cisco so jamespage sparked his brain [11:21] lynxman: How do I get onto the switch? Over serial it's all menu driven [11:21] davepigott: oh my :) [11:21] davepigott: you need to telnet into it, have a user or a term password then the enable password [11:22] davepigott: you don't have anyone around that did actually configure those switches or are you on your own? [11:22] lynxman, that config looks good [11:22] lynxman: I'm trying to telnet but it's not responding [11:22] lynxman: On my own I'm afraid [11:22] davepigott, I think it only needs to be applied to the private network interfaces i.e. one of the switches [11:22] jamespage: OK. That's good at least. :) [11:22] davepigott: what james page says [11:23] davepigott: then try to access through serial cable, it shouldn't ask you for any password and just give you a prompt [11:23] davepigott: then just type "enable" and the default password should be Cisco [11:23] davepigott: do "sh run" to show your running configuration, write down the ports that you'll be using for your internal network [11:23] davepigott: then add that config to them using "config term" [11:23] davepigott: once you're done type exit and "write mem" to save your changes [11:24] * jamespage bows to the awesomeness of lynxman's cisco knowledge [11:24] jamespage: I used to manage spanning tree vlans on Cisco, but I'm rusty at best [11:25] lynxman: It just gives me a menu. No shell [11:25] lynxman, I had todo some integration work between IBM/HP BladeCenters and Cisco switches but that was in 2007 :-) [11:26] davepigott, if you don't need it I would suggest that you don't use VLAN networking [11:27] davepigott, this was what I was looking for - http://unchainyourbrain.com/openstack/13-networking-in-nova [11:27] jamespage: If this solves it, I'll stick with vlan. If not I'll go back and reconfigure everything [11:27] this is what the juju charms for openstack do [11:28] davepigott: I do agree with jamespage, if you don't feel comfortable managing vlan switches it's better to go to plain basic flat network [11:29] davepigott, I don't think switching is that hard TBH [11:29] you already have the right bits installed - they just need reconfiguring! [11:30] lynxman: Why am I menu driven and not command line on the switch? [11:31] davepigott: it depends on your cisco switch model, all Catalysts should run Cisco IOS but maybe you have a SoHo one that doens't [11:32] lynxman: OK. There's a VLAN menu option. Has a VLAN ID of 1. [11:33] davepigott: that's the default vlan, the question is if the switch allows trunk config per port [11:33] Hi all [11:33] lynxman: OK. If it doesn't vlan is out, right? [11:33] davepigott: afraid so [11:34] I'm having some problems with my ubuntu server, would anyone be able to help? === Leseb_ is now known as Leseb [11:34] I can't upgrade/use dpkg/apt.. specifically, I messed up Perl [11:35] and it keeps complaining about strict.pm being missing, so I tried to reinstall, but it still complains [11:43] it prevents me from using the package manager [11:43] which is annoying as I need to upgrade the server [11:49] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11724946 [12:03] lynxman: Good, thanks. Of course I'd be even better if cloud-init would do this for me :) [12:21] lynxman: OK. Looks like I can set up trunk config per port from the menu interface [12:44] smoser: Oh, hang on. It already does this somehow, doesn't it? [12:45] utlemming: hey, it looks like i won't be able to be at the weekly meeting. Are you ok driving the development part? [12:52] soren: I'm sure it somehow does, cloud-init does the kitchen sink and everything [13:13] smoser/utlemming: what's your take on including acpid in the cloud images in order to support KVM soft reboot ? [13:13] References: [13:13] http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Tips#Debian.2FUbuntu_guests_under_KVM_don.27t_shut_down_properly [13:13] https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/939557 [13:13] Launchpad bug 939557 in nova "'nova reboot' under KVM always does a hard reboot" [High,Triaged] [13:21] ttx: I have never agreed that acpid should be absent.. iirc, soren had views on it. [13:21] Daviey: I certainly do. [13:21] Daviey: It should totally be included. [13:22] Daviey: That's my view. [13:22] Daviey: I also have views on how to get it included. [13:23] soren: Hmm.. i'm *sure* you said that it shouldn't be there. [13:23] Infact, i remember saying so.. and you saying just apt-get install it! :) [13:25] Daviey: When did you ever pay attention to what I say? [13:26] acpid is important. Include it. In -minimal or -standard or whatever. Don't backdoor it into the cloud images. [13:26] AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [13:26] gezundheit [13:26] H. [13:26] Heck, or even in -server (which gets installed in cloud-init, iirc). [13:27] soren: You change your mind like the weather man! [13:27] Daviey: Maybe. [13:27] Daviey: I'd be happy to see quotes of me saying otherwise. [13:28] Daviey: I've talked many times about *relying* on its presence. [13:28] soren: UDS-Jaunty real life, and prior on irc. :) [13:28] He was young then [13:28] Daviey: Where I've told people to just go and apt-get install it, because we can't travel back intime and add it to hardy or lucid or whatever. [13:28] * jpds flips another coin. [13:29] man, can someone tell me what causes lots of 408s in apache? [13:32] soren: I'm going to add it to just server for now. [13:32] Daviey: I remember, for instance, a bug about rebooting kvm's from libvirt, where I spent way too much time explaining why you couldn't just rely on acpid for it to work. [13:32] Daviey: ...because even if acpid got added to the development release at the time, it still wouldn't work for older version of ubuntu. [13:33] Daviey: I can't imagine I'd be opposed to adding acpid by default. [13:33] Daviey: But, if I did, I'm sure I'd have excellent reasons :) [13:33] naturally [13:35] morning folks [13:38] * soren hugs kexec [13:42] soren: seen pxe-kexec ? [13:43] Daviey: I did see it in the archive, yes. Didn't quite get it, though. [13:44] Daviey: Perhaps its name confuses me. Does it actually do PXE at all? [13:46] soren: well, depends what you define as PXE :).. it pulls via tftp the conifg and kernel, then kexec's it [13:46] so not quite PXE 'booting', but the same end resut. [13:51] Daviey: ...but I don't need a bootp server? [13:56] smoser: If I pass ds=nocloud on the kernel command line, isn't cloud-init supposed to not try to contact the EC2 metadata service? [13:57] soren: it tries to find that from dhcp (unreliable), normally you declare it on the command line [13:58] Daviey: Ah, I see. [13:58] Daviey: PXE invariably means something that involves DHCP in my head. [13:58] soren: Think outside the box (head). [14:01] question about iscsi and lvms... [14:01] i have a raid, and i divide it using lvm. [14:01] larsemil: Are you asking for us to ask you a question? [14:01] my initiators mount the different luns [14:02] can the server mounting the lun, use lvm (again) on the iscsi lun that is originally a logical volume [14:02] ? [14:02] Daviey: there it came, the question [14:02] larsemil: I can't see why not? [14:03] larsemil: All you are doing is nested lvm, right? [14:03]