[00:00] <Daekdroom> That's a feature.
[00:04] <thumper> snadge: push harder
[00:08] <thumper> mhall119: ping
[00:16] <snadge> yeah i know
[00:16] <snadge> but im trying to figure out why thats changed
[00:17] <snadge> or how to turn it off
[00:22] <Daekdroom> That change happened a few weeks ago, I think.
[00:29] <thumper> snadge: I don't think you can turn it off
[00:29] <thumper> DBO: the multimonitor barrier can't be removed can it?
[00:30] <DBO> thumper, nope
[00:33] <mhall119> thumper: pong
[00:33] <thumper> mhall119: one sec, back shortly
[00:41] <thumper> mhall119: back
[00:44] <bilal> DBO: Any idea what in my code might be causing this? http://pastebin.com/Ddjbrbqu Tried several clean rebuilds already
[00:44] <bilal> I defined a new SCLauncherMoveWindow class btw, and it's in a file that's already included during the build
[00:45] <thumper> mhall119: I was thinking about how to socialise the idea of writing autopilot tests for unity
[00:45] <thumper> mhall119: as something people could do to in unity
[00:45] <thumper> mhall119: python based (mostly), rather than C++
[00:46] <thumper> mhall119: unless you need to expose more data
[00:46] <snadge> of course... it continues on in the tradition of unwanted changes, that cant be undone
[00:46] <snadge> along with dodge windows ;)
[00:47] <thumper> snadge: it was very much wanted
[00:48] <DBO> bilal, not really...
[00:48] <thumper> snadge: perhaps we may want to allow it to be switched off, but then you can't reveal a hidden launcher on a secondary monitor
[00:48] <snadge> i dont want a launcher on my second monitor
[00:49] <snadge> you can adjust the sensitivity from memory.. i remember seing an option for it
[00:49] <thumper> no there isn't a setting for it
[00:49] <snadge> reveal sensitivity in desktop background -> behaviour
[00:49] <snadge> im not sure if thats relevant to that
[00:50] <snadge> but because i dont understand what that means i've just left it alone
[00:56] <mhall119> thumper: how hard is it to write auto-pilot tests?
[01:02] <thumper> mhall119: quite simple
[01:02] <thumper> mhall119: we could get thomi to help write a guide
[01:02] <mhall119> thumper: if we can make a simple, step-by-step tutorial like I had for quicklists and keywords, I'm sure we can get some community involvement
[01:03] <thomi> thumper: mhall119: I wrote a guide ages ago on the ubuntu wiki, but it's fairly out of date now
[01:03] <mhall119> especially if we can give a handful of target tests for people to write
[01:03] <thomi> but the basics are the same
[01:03] <mhall119> thomi: "out of date" seems to be the perpetual state of the wiki :(
[01:03] <thomi> I also have a blog post that I need to finish for the QA team blog that explains what one needs to do
[01:04] <thomi> mhall119: "wikis are where documentation goes to die" ;)
[01:04] <mhall119> thomi: do you have a link to the wiki page?
[01:04] <mhall119> thomi: so true
[01:04]  * thomi looks
[01:04] <mhall119> but it's zombie documentation, because after it's dead it's still around causing pain and suffering
[01:04] <thomi> mhall119: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/QA/Autopilot
[02:22] <snadge> finally turned off the fragging desktop hints .. much relief was had
[02:23] <snadge> they're broken anyway, to add insult to injury :p
[02:24] <snadge> when switching desktops, the previous desktop is seen through the transparent background
[02:24] <snadge> and also zooming desktops it gets in the way.. has anyone proposed fixes for these yet? ;)
[02:25] <snadge> also.. is there any particular reason why super+ctrl wasn't considered for the default change desktop shortcut? (over super-shift)
[02:56] <snadge> also.. if someone proposes to invert the behaviour of the scroll wheel.. i will literally kill that person ;)
[02:57] <snadge> that will be the proverbial straw that breaks the camels back
[03:01] <Daekdroom> snadge, inverting the behaviour of scrolling only makes sense for touchscreen.
[03:05] <snadge> it was a light hearted poke at apple
[03:06] <snadge> i thought maybe i'd shift the attention of dubious interface decisions to another party temporarily ;)
[03:06] <Daekdroom> All you did was state that it's possible the Unity-design team would take a decision that's far more controversial than anything done by them so far :P
[03:07] <Daekdroom> Does Apple use natural scrolling in Macs?
[03:07] <snadge> i personally haven't used any apple products, but i was aware of that particular controversial change in particular
[03:08] <Daekdroom> I know they do it in iPhones, iPads and whatever, but it kinda makes sense to do there.
[03:08] <snadge> and they did invert the scroll wheel behaviour by default, and they did include a toggleable option to change it back again
[03:08] <snadge> but the reaction from some apple users, was priceless
[03:09] <snadge> people threatening to boycott apple products, violent acts towards steve jobs etc
[03:11] <snadge> "Its very annoying. I tried turning the mouse upside down, but that doesn't work!"
[03:12] <snadge> heh
[03:12] <Daekdroom> To be honest, I'm trying it and it doesn't feel wrong.
[03:13] <Daekdroom> It's just that I have to pay attention to the change.
[03:13] <Daekdroom> (therefore, it doesn't pay off)
[03:13] <snadge> kinda like the other changes i dont like and have to get used to ;)
[03:14] <snadge> perhaps the option should be there to invert it though.. might be useful for people who are used to OSX 10.7
[03:14] <snadge> i cant believe i just said that
[03:15] <snadge> actually.. im an evil man.. but not only should it be an option, but it should be enabled by default for 12.04 .. *chuckles*
[03:23] <Daekdroom> snadge, well, it is possible to change it through Ubuntu Tweak.
[03:24] <snadge> that doesnt sound mainstream enough ;)
[04:16] <thumper> bschaefer: ping
[04:17] <thumper> bschaefer: I'm trying to determine if the ibus changes need a feature freeze exception
[04:17] <thumper> bschaefer: if the primary code was just moved from unity to nux + bug fixes
[04:17] <thumper> bschaefer: we are all fine
[04:17] <thumper> bschaefer: if it was more substantial, we may need a FFe
[04:30] <bschaefer> thumper, sorry, was at the store
[04:31] <bschaefer> thumper, that is pretty much what happened, but we don't have gtk in nux
[04:31] <bschaefer> thumper, so I had to re do it using the ibus apit
[04:31] <bschaefer> api*
[04:31] <bschaefer> jay and I *
[04:32] <bschaefer> thumper, also pretty much all the code was in Nux before the feature freeze also
[04:32] <bschaefer> thumper, it was named TextEntryIM, and when we finished it we replaced TextEntry
[08:35] <smb> didrocks, Just for letting you know, because I had the feeling this will change anyway. I re-mapped the workspace changing keybindings to super+ctrl+cursor and I think not only my brain is happier about that combo. My hand started to hurt a bit too. :)
[08:36] <smb> Some nitpick there is bug 942460... ;)
[08:51] <jokerdino> where is the keyboard shortcut overlay in the unity trunk?
[09:06] <thumper> jokerdino: what do you mean?
[09:07] <jokerdino> i am looking for the code for shortcut overlay in the unity branch
[09:07] <thumper> jokerdino: there are two parts, one in UnityCore, on in the plugins/unityshell/src directory
[09:08] <thumper> jokerdino: andyrock knows more as he wrote ite
[09:08] <jokerdino> well, i just found it :)
[09:08] <andyrock> jokerdino, thumper morning :)
[09:09] <andyrock> jokerdino, what do you need? :)
[09:09] <jokerdino> i thought it will be good to add the shortcut for video lens :)
[09:10] <thumper> we do need to be careful about adding too much there
[09:10] <thumper> screen sizes and all
[09:10] <jokerdino> i note that it is not in that file
[09:11] <andyrock> jokerdino, yuo cannot add it without design input
[09:11] <andyrock> but but but...
[09:11] <jokerdino> well?
[09:11] <jokerdino> i can just hack it in here right?
[09:12] <andyrock> we need to add an item for the HUD
[09:12] <andyrock> if you want, you can do it
[09:12] <jokerdino> HUD is already there
[09:13] <jokerdino> hints_.push_back(new shortcut::Hint(menubar, "", "", _("Reveals application menu."), shortcut::HARDCODED_OPTION, "Alt"));
[09:13] <jokerdino> ^^
[09:15] <andyrock> no :)
[09:15] <jokerdino> andyrock: just adding in the src file and compiling won't make the shortcut for video lens to show up?
[09:15] <andyrock> yep
[09:15] <andyrock> but the layout is a little weird
[09:15] <jokerdino> oh
[09:15] <jokerdino> and why are the shortcuts not dynamic?
[09:16] <andyrock> jokerdino, what do you mean?
[09:17] <jokerdino> I changed a couple of shortcuts and that is not reflected in the overlay
[09:17] <andyrock> some of them are hardcoded
[09:18] <jokerdino> I wonder if I am in the right file :/
[09:19] <andyrock> jokerdino, unityshell.cpp
[09:19] <jokerdino> ah, ok. i am right there.
[09:20] <jokerdino> can i file a bug for video lens shortcut not being there?
[09:20] <andyrock> jokerdino, yeah
[09:21] <andyrock> JohnLea, ^^^
[09:21] <jokerdino> is the addition as easy as:
[09:21] <jokerdino> hints_.push_back(new shortcut::Hint(dash, "", " + V", _("Open the Dash Video Lens."), shortcut::COMPIZ_KEY_OPTION, "unityshell", "show_launcher"));
[09:24] <andyrock> yep
[09:24] <andyrock> but it can break the layout...
[09:24] <andyrock> an easy way is to add it removing another item
[09:24] <jokerdino> looks like it
[09:25] <jokerdino> i have another bug in mind.
[09:25] <jokerdino> let me finish filing it. :)
[09:25] <jokerdino> filing the first one i mean
[09:27] <andyrock> ok
[09:27] <jokerdino> hmm, you sound annoyed :/
[09:27] <jokerdino> am i disturbing your work flow?
[09:28] <jokerdino> (bug 942476 has been filed)
[09:32] <andyrock> jokerdino, of course not :)
[09:33] <andyrock> jokerdino, i've just a problem: I just woke up! :)
[09:34] <jokerdino> oh right. that makes plenty of sense
[10:02] <snadge> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/770283
[10:03] <snadge> this needs some traction :p
[10:05] <snadge> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/879156
[13:13] <Saviq> didrocks, did you already shut the merger bot down?
[13:14] <didrocks> Saviq: will do in 15 minutes
[13:14] <didrocks> still another branch to merge?
[13:14] <Saviq> didrocks, yes, one last
[13:14] <didrocks> Saviq: ping me once approved
[13:14] <didrocks> if not already
[13:14] <Saviq> didrocks, alread yis
[13:15] <didrocks> great, I'm waiting for the 20's run
[13:15] <didrocks> and will shut down then
[13:15] <Saviq> ok great thanks
[13:26] <jibel> could you look at bug 937421 , it occurs pretty frequently when I press alt.
[13:31] <seb128> gord, DBO: ^
[13:31] <seb128> jibel's bug
[13:32] <gord> will do
[13:33] <seb128> thanks
[13:34] <gord> really need to fix this optimized out thing in our stacktraces, it really makes a useful stacktrace worthless
[13:34] <rye> Hello, my ubuntuone-indicator is listed as "Untitled indicator", where do I make it titled?
[13:37] <seb128> rye, call app_indicator_set_title
[13:37] <seb128> with a title
[13:37] <rye> seb128, thank you!
[13:37] <seb128> yw
[13:40] <didrocks> Saviq: your branch for rejected
[13:42] <Saviq> didrocks, yeah I saw that
[13:42] <Saviq> didrocks, the tests pass here, no idea what happened there
[13:43] <didrocks> Saviq: issues with a local dbus-launch?
[13:44] <Saviq> didrocks, those were unit tests that failed
[13:44] <Saviq> not ui tests
[13:44] <didrocks> Saviq: I'm freezing, feel free to UNBLOCK this one once you will get to it
[13:45] <jokerdino> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/910167 guys, i am planning to have a go at this, any inputs/
[13:47] <Saviq> didrocks, will do
[13:48] <rye> yay! for python that's indicator_instance.set_property("title", "some title")
[13:59] <mhall119> has anyone seen johnlea?
[14:00] <seb128> mhall119, he's away (at a conference)  this week
[14:00] <seb128> mhall119, use emails if you need to contact him
[14:05] <mhall119> ok
[14:10] <kamstrup> mhr3: i s'pose by now we need to unblock all branches for dee if we want to land anything
[14:19] <mhr3> kamstrup, yea, although the leader writability doesn't make sense without libunity part
[14:19] <mhr3> well, as in it's not going to fix anything by itself
[14:20] <mhr3> didrocks, so how do you feel about some unblocks? :P
[14:20] <gord> jibel, hey, if you are comfortable building unity, would be great if you could test https://code.launchpad.net/~gordallott/unity/fix-937421/+merge/94970 as its entirely unreproducible for me
[14:22] <didrocks> mhr3: are they justified?
[14:22] <didrocks> mhr3: that's the question :)
[14:22] <kamstrup> mhr3: it has been requested by libdee consumers multiple times
[14:22] <mhr3> didrocks, how does 4 bugs sound? :)
[14:22] <kamstrup> si I think it does make sense
[14:23] <didrocks> mhr3: show me! :p
[14:23] <mhr3> but, yea, first i'd like to finish the libunity part
[14:23] <mhr3> not that the api is set in stone (ie in trunk)
[14:23] <mhr3> now*
[14:25] <kamstrup> didrocks, mhr3: it's all bugs on the 1.0.6 milestone https://launchpad.net/dee/+milestone/1.0.6
[14:26] <didrocks> kamstrup: ok, dee is small
[14:26] <kamstrup> AND
[14:26] <didrocks> kamstrup: so even if the bug all don't make sense to me for the release, quickly unblock them :)
[14:26] <kamstrup> we have a truckload of tests! :-D
[14:26] <didrocks> yeah, that's the part who makes me feel "I can't say no" :p
[14:27] <kamstrup> mhr3: ^^ will you have the honor?
[14:27] <didrocks> see, tests bring confidence
[14:27] <didrocks> and more flexibility :)
[14:27] <mhr3> kamstrup, could you, pls, i'm adding this to libunity
[14:27] <kamstrup> mhr3: k
[14:30] <jibel> gord, hey, I can't, beta 1 is in 2 days and I need this machine for testing but I can test from a ppa
[14:31] <seb128> jibel, do you use any application you don't normally use since the issue started?
[14:33] <jibel> seb128, heavy usage of vbox and kvm which use 'ctrl+alt' to exit 'pointer capture' or 'alt+arrow' for console switching
[14:33] <seb128> jibel, can you trigger the bug by opening the hud on any of those?
[14:33] <seb128> jibel, it seems it's the icon or pixmap it tries to use which leads to the bug
[14:34] <seb128> jibel, is the icon of any of those changing while running or something?
[14:35] <jibel> seb128, the bug occurs on the host not in vms
[14:35]  * jibel reenables HUD
[14:35] <seb128> jibel, right, but I wonder what's the trigger, if that's the vb icon or something
[14:36] <jibel> seb128, yep, that's what i'm checking
[14:36] <seb128> jibel, for the record no issue opening the hud on vb here
[14:46] <jibel> seb128, hm, the icon in front of the hud changes while I stay on the same application and press alt multiple times
[14:46] <jibel> seb128, sometimes it's a question mark on a grey background, sometimes it is a white sheet of paper
[14:46] <seb128> jibel, but no segfault?
[14:48] <jibel> seb128, not always. when the whole thing crash, there is a segfault logged in dmesg in libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0.2502.0
[14:48] <seb128> jibel, right, I've seen the bug and patch from gord, I just wonder how you end up having an invalid icon there
[14:49] <seb128> jibel, nobody else reported it so it seems a pretty special case, I was wondering if an application like virtualbox was shipping with a broken icon which triggered the issue every time
[14:49] <seb128> but seems not
[14:49] <seb128> jibel, thanks for testing
[14:50] <jibel> seb128, thanks for investigating :)
[14:55] <mhr3> kamstrup, one quickie pls https://code.launchpad.net/~mhr3/libunity/use-owned-models/+merge/94975
[14:55]  * mhr3 starts attaching bugs to that branch
[14:56] <kamstrup> mhr3: you need to require dee >= 1.0.5 for this
[14:56] <mhr3> kamstrup, there's no dee 1.0.5 :/
[14:57] <kamstrup> mhr3: oh, sorry, forgot we didn't do post release version bump anymore
[14:57] <mhr3> and it would need a mr :/
[14:57] <kamstrup> right
[14:59] <kamstrup> mhr3: can you add an explanatory comment in create_master_model()? otherwise it looks like dark magic
[15:00] <mhr3> but it is dark magic :)
[15:00] <kamstrup> mhr3: also, noting why filter model shouldn't be leader_writable
[15:03] <mhr3> kamstrup, pushed
[15:07] <kamstrup> mhr3: how much of a rush is this? I really want to test this in jhbuild before approving if there is time
[15:07] <kamstrup> as we're activating a lot of new code with this
[15:08] <mhr3> kamstrup, i'd like this in 5.6
[15:08] <mhr3> we really need to push it early, cause the only way to know it worked is by not getting any more dupes
[15:08] <kamstrup> mhr3: doing a jhbuild now... should be reay in 30 mins or so
[15:09] <kamstrup> +1
[15:09] <mhr3> but fwiw i'm running it, and it still works :)
[15:11] <mhall119> didrocks: have you had a change to review the unity-lens template yet?
[15:11] <didrocks> mhall119: I think I did yesterday and gave you some feedback, isn't it?
[15:12] <mhall119> didrocks: in email or IRC?
[15:13] <mhall119> didrocks: you mentioned that uninstall wouldn't remove non-empty directories
[15:13] <mhall119> but it's removing the only files the install command put there, so if it's non-empty at that point it means the user has added something else, and so removing those things may not be appropriate
[15:14] <didrocks> mhall119: IRC
[15:14] <mhall119> didrocks: ^^
[15:14] <didrocks> mhall119: this, and that you need to make a run command
[15:15] <didrocks> mhall119: well, I think rmtree will still make more sense, but as you wish for this one :)
[15:15] <didrocks> the run command to tell to run "install" if not done is important though IMHO
[15:16] <mhall119> ok, I'll add that and ping you again in a few
[15:16] <rye> it takes around 25 seconds to get into unity on my machine. Is there any log I can see what is taking how much time?
[15:17] <kamstrup> rye: are you running your own build or with debug symbols?
[15:18] <kamstrup> because the unity plugins for compiz takes ages to load with debug symbols
[15:18] <kamstrup> (maybe also without, not sure)
[15:19] <mhr3> damn, you launchpad, why can't i mark 917194 as duplicate of 916356
[15:19] <rye> kamstrup, hm, well, this happens on 2 systems, on is my build with the cherrypick of "hollow pips" fix and another is on netbook which has 2 times less CPU speed but it is running off SSD and the times are virtually the same, as if there is a timer somewhere
[15:20] <kamstrup> if there is a 25s timeout in compiz startup then someone needs to be killed :-)
[15:22] <mhall119> didrocks: run.py addition has been pushed, rev 15
[15:23] <mhall119> kamstrup: IIRC, there was something about compiz startup on some intel GPUs (like mine) that has been slow lately
[15:24] <didrocks> mhall119: ah nice, looking
[15:29] <kamstrup> mhr3: approved... now to get the unblock acked
[15:29] <mhr3> didrocks, ^^?
[15:29] <didrocks> on libunity?
[15:30] <mhr3> didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~mhr3/libunity/use-owned-models/+merge/94975
[15:30] <mhr3> yea
[15:32] <didrocks> mhr3: ok, but for the record, I hate you :p
[15:33] <mhr3> didrocks, cat updated_record | diff == 0 lines :P
[15:33] <didrocks> mhr3: ahah ;)
[15:34] <didrocks> mhr3: kamstrup: all is sorted out then? nothing new?
[15:35] <mhr3> didrocks, would you like us to prepare some more unblocks? :)
[15:35] <didrocks> mhr3: that's enough for a day, isn't it? :p
[15:35] <mhr3> there's never enough code
[15:36] <didrocks> mhr3: isn't it normally, there is always too much code? ;)
[15:36] <mhr3> didrocks, you know the saying, the more the merrier
[15:37] <didrocks> heh ;)
[15:39] <mhr3> and now i can finally work on making everyone's system slower
[15:40] <kamstrup> mhr3: ohhh, awesome, what's the plan?
[15:40] <mhr3> integration of locate to files lens of course
[15:42] <mhall119> needs more XML
[15:58] <jml> the way the dash/launcher stays open when I change desktops is really adding to the stress of my day
[16:00] <didrocks> jml: it's been reverted btw this morning
[16:00] <didrocks> the keybindings change
[16:00] <didrocks> mhall119: ok, your turn now :)
[16:00] <jml> didrocks: ah cool.
[16:00] <jml> didrocks: it's a pity, because they are better keybindings.
[16:00] <didrocks> jml: it will come back next cycle, when we can support multiple combination
[16:01] <mhall119> didrocks: ready for me to file an FFe?
[16:01] <didrocks> jml: but switching ws will be Control+Super+arrows
[16:01] <didrocks> mhall119: "your turn" was, "I can start looking" :)
[16:01] <mhall119> oh
[16:01] <didrocks> mhall119: is it still under the singlet project?
[16:01] <mhall119> didrocks: you want the branch or the source package?
[16:01] <didrocks> mhall119: maybe, it would be better to create another project
[16:02] <didrocks> change debian/copyright and setup.py to point to it if needed
[16:02] <didrocks> isn't it?
[16:02]  * didrocks wants to bzr branch lp:unity-quickly-templates
[16:02] <mhall119> didrocks: the branch is hosted under singlet
[16:02] <didrocks> oupss
[16:02] <didrocks> mhall119: yeah, so we don't have real trunks and bzr don't like mixing repo for different sources
[16:03] <didrocks> mhall119: anyway, you need to align debian/copyright and setup.py to the branch you want :)
[16:04] <mhall119> ok
[16:06] <didrocks> mhall119: ok, the run.py change looks good, you can remove the compile gschemas though
[16:07] <didrocks> same for X display test :)
[16:07] <didrocks> not needed
[16:07] <didrocks> mhall119: tell me once you do those changes
[16:08] <mhall119> didrocks: ok, in a meeting atm, I'll get on that shortly though
[16:08] <didrocks> mhall119: also, as you need sponsorship, maybe move to somewhere than in ~mhall119? (like for packaging changes)
[16:09] <didrocks> mhall119: ok, keep me posted
[16:18] <didrocks> kamstrup: mhr3: libunity fails on armel: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/94691031/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-armel.libunity_5.4.0%2Bbzr123ubuntu0%2B101_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[16:18] <didrocks> can you please fix that quickly? :)
[16:19] <kamstrup> didrocks: it doesn't have latest dee
[16:19] <kamstrup> didrocks: it needs dee trunk
[16:19] <didrocks> kamstrup: ahah!
[16:19] <didrocks> ok, dee built
[16:19] <didrocks> let me retry
[16:19] <kamstrup> didrocks: and that was not enforcable in configure.ac since *someone* requested we didn't do post release version bumps... ;-)
[16:20] <didrocks> kamstrup: oh you can, just not after release :p
[16:20] <didrocks> kamstrup: well, there is another bug in bzr merge-upstream now that forces me to take the revision
[16:20] <didrocks> kamstrup: so you can post-bump again :)
[16:20] <kamstrup> w0000t!
[16:20] <kamstrup> mhr3: ^^!
[16:20] <kamstrup> :-)
[16:20] <kamstrup> \o/
[16:21]  * kamstrup pops the champagne
[16:21] <kamstrup> ok... maybe overdoing it a bit
[16:21] <mhr3> omg!
[16:21] <mhr3> we can be nice upstream again
[16:23] <didrocks> kamstrup: "maybe overdoing it", right :p :-)
[16:23] <kamstrup> that's the only way I know ;-)
[16:46] <Andy80> jono: are you aware of this problem in "ubuntu Accomplishment System" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-accomplishments-system/+bug/942738 ? I've reported it in the mean time and I'm trying to figure out why is happening. Please note that I'm usinig a fresh installed 12.04 and probably I could not have everything configured properly...
[16:54] <mhall119> seb128: do you have a few minutes to talk to dholbach and I about the outstanding Quicklist MPs?
[16:55] <jono> Andy80, when did you run it last?
[16:55] <seb128> mhall119, "talk", IRC is better if you can
[16:55] <seb128> but yes
[16:56] <Andy80> jono: the first time, and it was working, it was on my netbook. Now I'm testing in the development environment inside VirtualBox, but... maybe I've found why it happens. I don't have configured a U1 account yet on it. Of course the daemon should not crash anyway, but at least I know how to workaround. Let me try :)
[16:56] <jono> Andy80, aha!
[16:57] <jono> could you test it with a working U1 and let me know how you get on
[16:57] <jono> I asked when you ran it because I noticed the server was down
[16:57] <jono> my validation server
[16:58] <Andy80> jono: uhm...... so I have to test without adding an U1 account? Or do you prefer I configure mine first?
[16:58] <jono> Andy80, can you add your U1 account and then test
[16:58] <jono> and then I know if it is a U1 issue
[16:59] <jono> fortunately I know a fix for the U1 issue
[16:59] <Andy80> jono: ok. I will also fix the damon.py code so it won't crash in any case, if it's ok for you.
[17:00] <jono> Andy80, sounds good, if you could submit a merge proposal, that would be great - we are re-factoring the daemon right now and then I will merge in your changes when it is done
[17:00] <jono> thanks!
[17:03] <Andy80> jono: U1 account configured, now it doesn't crash. I'll fix the code in the case the account is not condigured.
[17:04] <jono> thanks, Andy80 as far as I am aware we just need to perform a connect to U1 and if no account is there it should show the register dialog, but I have not had a chance to look into it
[17:04] <jono> if you can take a look and fix, that would be awesome
[17:04] <jono> thanks!
[17:06] <Andy80> jono: I don't know how to display the U1 dialog, but in the mean time I submit the fix for the crash, then I'll give a look to the U1 dialog :)
[17:06] <jono> Andy80,  the U1 team built it so if you try to connect and there is no U1 account it should automatically show the dialog
[17:06] <jono> but I need to dig into the details
[17:06] <jono> protecting the daemon from crashing is a great first step
[17:07] <jono> thanks!
[17:07] <jono> also Andy80 if you have any insight into how we can write scripts to detect the things on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments/Trophies/Scripts that would be great
[17:07] <jono> while Duncan is re-factoring the daemon to use twistd I am looking to grow our accomplishments coverage :-)
[17:16] <Andy80> jono: how do I erase my U1 settings, so I can test if it doesn't crash after the fix?
[17:17] <rye> Andy80, what settings?
[17:18] <Andy80> rye: I've configured an U1 account. I want to remove U1 settings, just like I had to reconfigure it from scratch on this PC.
[17:18] <Andy80> rye: of course I don't want to delete the account eh ;) just removing settings
[17:19] <rye> Andy80, do you want to reauthorize (e.g. remove the credentials) to be able to reconnect?
[17:19] <rye> Andy80, since the settings are only for the bandwidth throttling, notifications etc.
[17:19]  * rye reads the backlog
[17:19] <Andy80> rye: something like that, yes... is it ok if I remove ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/ folder?
[17:20] <rye> Andy80, ~/.local/share/ubuntuone folder contains the metadata for the client, if you want to see how the client will react when you use it on new computer, you can remove the auth tokens only - these can be accessed from seahorse - search for Ubuntu One @ hostname token
[17:21] <rye> Andy80,  or you can do this from ubuntuone-control-panel-{gtk,qt} - Devices tab
[17:22] <Andy80> rye: done with seahorse, let me try and I tell you if it was enough :)
[17:22] <rye> Andy80, okay
[17:23] <Andy80> rye: it was enough, thanks :)
[17:24] <rye> Andy80, you are very welcome
[17:34] <Andy80> jono: merge request submitted
[17:38] <jono> thanks Andy80!
[17:39] <jono> I will merge this in when I get the completed re-factored branch from Duncan
[17:39] <Andy80> perfect
[17:39] <jono> his changes are going to be quite invasive, so I would rather merge your fixes in when he is done
[17:39] <mhall119> didrocks: lp:unity-quickly-templates rev 17
[17:39] <jo-erlend> hey, jono. I saw your message this morning. I'm around now, if you have time?
[17:39] <jono> thanks so much for the contribution Andy80!
[17:39] <jono> you are the first person to submit a merge proposal :-)
[17:39] <jono> jo-erlend, cool
[17:40] <Andy80> jono: oh it's just few lines :) I was starting giving a look on creating new trophies and I found that bug :)
[17:40] <jono> Andy80, new accomplishments would be great :-)
[17:40] <Andy80> the first? Got an idea for a new trophy :D
[17:40] <didrocks> mhall119: Upstream-Name: unity-singlet
[17:40] <didrocks> in debian/copyright
[17:40] <jono> as I mentioned, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments/Trophies/Scripts provides a list of ones that I think could work well
[17:40] <didrocks> this one has to change as well :)
[17:41] <didrocks> mhall119: the rest is fine, you can open a FFe :)
[17:47] <jono> Andy80, :-)
[17:51] <mhall119> didrocks: do I need to put anythign specific in the bug title for a FFe?
[17:52] <mhall119> and do I need to attach the source package, or just reference the bzr branch?
[17:55] <mhall119> didrocks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/942782
[17:59] <didrocks> mhall119: just say it has a low impact on the existing bits
[17:59] <didrocks> mhall119: and will stay in universe
[17:59] <didrocks> mhall119: that should do it :)
[18:01] <mhall119> done
[19:40] <dobey> where is the indicator-messages trunk now?
[19:41] <gord> dobey, lp:indicator-messages ?
[19:42] <dobey> oh right. got confused with libindicate version vs indicator-messages version
[19:43] <gord> aha
[19:44] <dobey> hrmm. did something seriously break api with the libindicate 0.7 bumping? this code seems to be showing a message, though the messages indicator isn't turning blue, nor does it show the message in the list :-/
[19:47] <seb128> tedg, ^
[19:49] <tedg> dobey, I don't think anything that would mark those type of reactions.
[19:51] <dobey> hrmm
[20:03] <dobey> tedg: ah; it appears the expected type for the indicator's "time" property changed to GTimeVal
[20:06] <tedg> dobey, Hmm, I think that actually changed a while ago... but, glad you've found it :-)
[20:08] <dobey> tedg: except even if i pass GLib.get_current_time(); i get the same traceback in the logs :-/
[20:09]  * dobey wonders why the heck we're using the time property anyway
[20:09] <tedg>  dobey, you kinda need either time or a count
[20:10] <tedg> dobey, Not sure which makes sense for you guys.
[20:10] <tedg> dobey, Are you using set_time ?
[20:12] <dobey> tedg: was doing set_property_time()
[20:26] <mhall119> seb128: you still around?
[20:38] <seb128> mhall119, yes
[20:42] <mhall119> seb128: do we need OnlyShowIn=Unity on the new quicklists?
[20:42] <seb128> mhall119, not especially no
[20:43] <seb128> mhall119, that's if we wanted to limit those to unity bug nothing else use that spec yet that I know about so in practice we don't know if others want it or not
[20:43] <seb128> ignore that
[20:43] <seb128> if something else start unity those groups and doesn't want the lists we added we will add those
[20:51] <mhall119> seb128: can you review these comments before I post them to the respective MPs?
[20:51] <seb128> mhall119, yes
[20:51] <mhall119> one if for packages in Main, the other for Universe
[20:54] <mhall119> if the recommended changes is correct, I'll update my blog too
[20:54] <seb128> ok
[20:54] <seb128> mhall119, where are those?
[20:58] <mhall119> seb128: lines 9, 10 and 11 of the pastebin
[20:58] <mhall119> oh, my pastebin url didn't post?
[20:58] <mhall119> http://paste.ubuntu.com/861060/
[20:58] <mhall119> there is it
[20:59] <mhall119> I swear I pasted it 5 minutes ago....
[20:59] <seb128> mhall119, no it didn't, looking
[21:00] <seb128> mhall119, looks mostly fine, small comments
[21:00] <seb128> - maybe you can put a not about the fact the capitalization use since that was incoherently used before
[21:01] <seb128> not->note
[21:01] <seb128> - for the universe case you might want to write something saying that we will discuss how to deal better with those in Ubuntu at UDS to provide a better solution next cycle
[21:02] <seb128> mhall119, but otherwise it looks good ;-)
[22:57] <mhall119> seb128: I've updated all the add_quicklist MPs I know about
[22:57] <mhall119> you can reject the Universe ones now if you want
[22:58] <seb128> mhall119, thanks
[23:19] <bschaefer> thumper, ping
[23:40] <thumper> bschaefer: hi
[23:44] <bschaefer> thumper, hey,
[23:45] <bschaefer> thumper, so did you need to do an FFe for the ibus code?