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JonathanDMorning.10:07
rmg51morning JonathanD10:28
JonathanDhey10:29
teddy-dbearmorning13:04
InHisName1good DayTime to all14:18
MutantTurkeyweeewub14:33
waltmanMutantTurkey: Sorry, the connector on my old powerbook display dongle doesn't look anything like the one on your Lenovo.14:52
JonathanDwaltman: new laptop has the "displayport" or whatever it is thing... is that what the macs have?14:54
MutantTurkeyokay thank you.14:55
waltmanJonathanD: Mac laptops now have something they call a "mini displayport".14:56
MutantTurkeyhuh14:56
JonathanDok.14:57
JonathanDah, found images.14:57
waltmanOn newer macs that's become the thunderbolt port, but it's the same size.14:58
JonathanDwaltman: well, you may call yours thunderbolt... but I call mine VICTORY.14:58
JonathanDOr something like that.14:58
JonathanDMy laptop can have cool names for it's ports too!14:58
JonathanDThis one over here is "bob" and it's for the network.14:59
waltmanmine's pre-thunderbolt14:59
JonathanDah14:59
waltmanThunderbolt's actually an intel technology. Apple's just an early adopter of it.14:59
JonathanDwaltman: I think when/if the prices ever come down, I'm gonna find an expresscard SDD.14:59
JonathanDI can dual boot with 2 seperate disks...15:00
JonathanDWhich just sounds nice.15:00
waltmanI saw something this morning about a linux computer the size of a usb thumbdrive.15:00
JonathanDWhere?15:00
waltmandual cpu, gets its power from usb15:00
JonathanDdid you see the ubuntu/android thing?15:00
waltmanit might've been the same thing.15:00
waltmangive me a sec to check...15:01
JonathanDsome kind of hybrid phone that you can also use to power a monitor, keyboard, mouse and use as a desktop15:01
JonathanDor something like that.15:01
waltmanhttp://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2012/02/linux-computer-the-size-of-a-thumb-drive-now-available-for-preorder.ars15:01
JonathanDnifty.15:02
JonathanDso if your TV has a USB, and an hdmi, you have a computer.15:02
JonathanDand most new TVs have both.15:03
JonathanDand netflix is available for android, so...15:03
MutantTurkeyproprietary ports are baaad15:11
JonathanDMutantTurkey: displayport is supposed to be relatively free.15:13
MutantTurkeyyeah15:13
MutantTurkeybut thunderbolt is not designed in a way to make it usable by everyone15:13
MutantTurkeymac has their way with everything15:13
MutantTurkeyto be able to cash out on it.15:13
waltmanMy understanding is that the thunderbolt tech is relatively open. The bigger issue was the shape of the connector.15:25
waltmanthunderbolt seems pretty cool15:25
MutantTurkeythe shape of the connector?15:27
MutantTurkeyI wish usb was better designed...15:27
JonathanDoh, thunderbolt15:29
MutantTurkeyis there a way to follow what files a process has open?15:30
teddy-dbearhttp://www.extremetech.com/computing/119031-canonical-reveals-ubuntu-for-android15:30
waltmanMutantTurkey: lsof15:33
MutantTurkeythanks waltman15:34
InHisName1ubuntu on a thumb drive, hmmmm15:43
InHisName1will it take keyboard and mice?   Have to cnx to USB via a hub ?15:44
waltmanInHisName1: bluetooth15:46
InHisName1well I guess that's better than really LOOOONG cables.15:48
MutantTurkeyadom: why did you quit on us man16:58
EvilResistance@ping22:51
PennBotpong22:51
EvilResistancehmm22:54
EvilResistance@quot22:54
PennBotI don't have a clue!22:54
EvilResistance@quit22:54
EvilResistanceits not identifying...22:55
EvilResistancethere we go22:56
InHisName1@ping23:11
PennBotpong23:11
InHisName1@quot23:11
PennBotNo idea!23:11
InHisName1@list23:11
EvilResistanceyeah that doesnt exist, i was trying to type @quit, and failed23:11
PennBotInHisName1: Admin, Channel, Config, Google, Infobot, Karma, Later, Misc, Owner, Seen, User, and Web23:11
InHisName1@asdf23:12
PennBotNo idea.23:12
InHisName1i c23:12
InHisName1@seen jthan23:14
PennBotInHisName1: jthan was last seen in #ubuntu-us-pa 1 week, 1 day, 16 hours, 45 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <jthan> I am very glad23:14
EvilResistance@karma InHisName23:14
PennBotEvilResistance: InHisName has neutral karma.23:14
EvilResistanceInHisNameyou do have to figure that PennBot was offline since yesterday, so...23:14
InHisName1Nobody plusses or minuses me23:14
EvilResistanceInHisName--23:15
EvilResistance:P23:15
InHisName1PHhhhtbbttt23:15
InHisName1@user EvilResistance23:18
PennBotInHisName1: Resistance was last seen in #ubuntu-us-pa 2 minutes and 58 seconds ago: <EvilResistance> :P23:18
InHisName1how is user diff from seen ?>23:18
EvilResistancewhat exactly were you trying to do?23:18
EvilResistance@user23:18
PennBotEvilResistance: (user [<channel>] <name>) -- Returns the last time <name> was seen and what <name> was last seen saying. This looks up <name> in the user seen database, which means that it could be any nick recognized as user <name> that was seen. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.23:18
EvilResistancebecause @user exists in several things23:19
EvilResistance@list user23:19
PennBotEvilResistance: capabilities, changename, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, identify, list, register, set password, set secure, stats, unidentify, unregister, username, and whoami23:19
EvilResistance@user list23:19
PennBotEvilResistance: adom, InHisName, Resistance, and Test23:19
EvilResistance@user capabilities InHisName23:19
EvilResistanced'aw, you have none.23:19
EvilResistance@list Seen23:20
PennBotEvilResistance: any, last, seen, since, and user23:20
EvilResistanceInHisName: @user doesnt exist as its own command in the User module.  it does, however, exist as its own command in the infobot module23:20
InHisName1@misc23:22
PennBotWish I knew!23:22
InHisName1@help misc23:22
PennBotInHisName1: Error: There is no command "misc".23:22
InHisName1@list23:24
PennBotInHisName1: Admin, Channel, Config, Google, Infobot, Karma, Later, Misc, Owner, Seen, User, and Web23:24
InHisName1@web23:26
PennBotI don't know, InHisName1.23:26
EvilResistance@list Misc23:31
PennBotEvilResistance: apropos, help, last, list, more, ping, source, tell, and version23:31
EvilResistance@Misc help23:32
PennBotEvilResistance: (misc help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.23:32
EvilResistance@list Web23:32
PennBotEvilResistance: doctype, fetch, headers, netcraft, size, title, urlquote, and urlunquote23:32
EvilResistanceInHisName: @list <plugin name>23:32
EvilResistanceit'll tell you what commands are with a plugin23:32

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