[10:07] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:28] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[10:29] <JonathanD> hey
[13:04] <teddy-dbear> morning
[14:18] <InHisName1> good DayTime to all
[14:33] <MutantTurkey> weeewub
[14:52] <waltman> MutantTurkey: Sorry, the connector on my old powerbook display dongle doesn't look anything like the one on your Lenovo.
[14:54] <JonathanD> waltman: new laptop has the "displayport" or whatever it is thing... is that what the macs have?
[14:55] <MutantTurkey> okay thank you.
[14:56] <waltman> JonathanD: Mac laptops now have something they call a "mini displayport".
[14:56] <MutantTurkey> huh
[14:57] <JonathanD> ok.
[14:57] <JonathanD> ah, found images.
[14:58] <waltman> On newer macs that's become the thunderbolt port, but it's the same size.
[14:58] <JonathanD> waltman: well, you may call yours thunderbolt... but I call mine VICTORY.
[14:58] <JonathanD> Or something like that.
[14:58] <JonathanD> My laptop can have cool names for it's ports too!
[14:59] <JonathanD> This one over here is "bob" and it's for the network.
[14:59] <waltman> mine's pre-thunderbolt
[14:59] <JonathanD> ah
[14:59] <waltman> Thunderbolt's actually an intel technology. Apple's just an early adopter of it.
[14:59] <JonathanD> waltman: I think when/if the prices ever come down, I'm gonna find an expresscard SDD.
[15:00] <JonathanD> I can dual boot with 2 seperate disks...
[15:00] <JonathanD> Which just sounds nice.
[15:00] <waltman> I saw something this morning about a linux computer the size of a usb thumbdrive.
[15:00] <JonathanD> Where?
[15:00] <waltman> dual cpu, gets its power from usb
[15:00] <JonathanD> did you see the ubuntu/android thing?
[15:00] <waltman> it might've been the same thing.
[15:01] <waltman> give me a sec to check...
[15:01] <JonathanD> some kind of hybrid phone that you can also use to power a monitor, keyboard, mouse and use as a desktop
[15:01] <JonathanD> or something like that.
[15:01] <waltman> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2012/02/linux-computer-the-size-of-a-thumb-drive-now-available-for-preorder.ars
[15:02] <JonathanD> nifty.
[15:02] <JonathanD> so if your TV has a USB, and an hdmi, you have a computer.
[15:03] <JonathanD> and most new TVs have both.
[15:03] <JonathanD> and netflix is available for android, so...
[15:11] <MutantTurkey> proprietary ports are baaad
[15:13] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: displayport is supposed to be relatively free.
[15:13] <MutantTurkey> yeah
[15:13] <MutantTurkey> but thunderbolt is not designed in a way to make it usable by everyone
[15:13] <MutantTurkey> mac has their way with everything
[15:13] <MutantTurkey> to be able to cash out on it.
[15:25] <waltman> My understanding is that the thunderbolt tech is relatively open. The bigger issue was the shape of the connector.
[15:25] <waltman> thunderbolt seems pretty cool
[15:27] <MutantTurkey> the shape of the connector?
[15:27] <MutantTurkey> I wish usb was better designed...
[15:29] <JonathanD> oh, thunderbolt
[15:30] <MutantTurkey> is there a way to follow what files a process has open?
[15:30] <teddy-dbear> http://www.extremetech.com/computing/119031-canonical-reveals-ubuntu-for-android
[15:33] <waltman> MutantTurkey: lsof
[15:34] <MutantTurkey> thanks waltman
[15:43] <InHisName1> ubuntu on a thumb drive, hmmmm
[15:44] <InHisName1> will it take keyboard and mice?   Have to cnx to USB via a hub ?
[15:46] <waltman> InHisName1: bluetooth
[15:48] <InHisName1> well I guess that's better than really LOOOONG cables.
[16:58] <MutantTurkey> adom: why did you quit on us man
[22:51] <EvilResistance> @ping
[22:51] <PennBot> pong
[22:54] <EvilResistance> hmm
[22:54] <EvilResistance> @quot
[22:54] <PennBot> I don't have a clue!
[22:54] <EvilResistance> @quit
[22:55] <EvilResistance> its not identifying...
[22:56] <EvilResistance> there we go
[23:11] <InHisName1> @ping
[23:11] <PennBot> pong
[23:11] <InHisName1> @quot
[23:11] <PennBot> No idea!
[23:11] <InHisName1> @list
[23:11] <EvilResistance> yeah that doesnt exist, i was trying to type @quit, and failed
[23:11] <PennBot> InHisName1: Admin, Channel, Config, Google, Infobot, Karma, Later, Misc, Owner, Seen, User, and Web
[23:12] <InHisName1> @asdf
[23:12] <PennBot> No idea.
[23:12] <InHisName1> i c
[23:14] <InHisName1> @seen jthan
[23:14] <PennBot> InHisName1: jthan was last seen in #ubuntu-us-pa 1 week, 1 day, 16 hours, 45 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <jthan> I am very glad
[23:14] <EvilResistance> @karma InHisName
[23:14] <PennBot> EvilResistance: InHisName has neutral karma.
[23:14] <EvilResistance> InHisNameyou do have to figure that PennBot was offline since yesterday, so...
[23:14] <InHisName1> Nobody plusses or minuses me
[23:15] <EvilResistance> InHisName--
[23:15] <EvilResistance> :P
[23:15] <InHisName1> PHhhhtbbttt
[23:18] <InHisName1> @user EvilResistance
[23:18] <PennBot> InHisName1: Resistance was last seen in #ubuntu-us-pa 2 minutes and 58 seconds ago: <EvilResistance> :P
[23:18] <InHisName1> how is user diff from seen ?>
[23:18] <EvilResistance> what exactly were you trying to do?
[23:18] <EvilResistance> @user
[23:18] <PennBot> EvilResistance: (user [<channel>] <name>) -- Returns the last time <name> was seen and what <name> was last seen saying. This looks up <name> in the user seen database, which means that it could be any nick recognized as user <name> that was seen. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
[23:19] <EvilResistance> because @user exists in several things
[23:19] <EvilResistance> @list user
[23:19] <PennBot> EvilResistance: capabilities, changename, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, identify, list, register, set password, set secure, stats, unidentify, unregister, username, and whoami
[23:19] <EvilResistance> @user list
[23:19] <PennBot> EvilResistance: adom, InHisName, Resistance, and Test
[23:19] <EvilResistance> @user capabilities InHisName
[23:19] <EvilResistance> d'aw, you have none.
[23:20] <EvilResistance> @list Seen
[23:20] <PennBot> EvilResistance: any, last, seen, since, and user
[23:20] <EvilResistance> InHisName: @user doesnt exist as its own command in the User module.  it does, however, exist as its own command in the infobot module
[23:22] <InHisName1> @misc
[23:22] <PennBot> Wish I knew!
[23:22] <InHisName1> @help misc
[23:22] <PennBot> InHisName1: Error: There is no command "misc".
[23:24] <InHisName1> @list
[23:24] <PennBot> InHisName1: Admin, Channel, Config, Google, Infobot, Karma, Later, Misc, Owner, Seen, User, and Web
[23:26] <InHisName1> @web
[23:26] <PennBot> I don't know, InHisName1.
[23:31] <EvilResistance> @list Misc
[23:31] <PennBot> EvilResistance: apropos, help, last, list, more, ping, source, tell, and version
[23:32] <EvilResistance> @Misc help
[23:32] <PennBot> EvilResistance: (misc help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[23:32] <EvilResistance> @list Web
[23:32] <PennBot> EvilResistance: doctype, fetch, headers, netcraft, size, title, urlquote, and urlunquote
[23:32] <EvilResistance> InHisName: @list <plugin name>
[23:32] <EvilResistance> it'll tell you what commands are with a plugin