G | hads: disappointed in sudden change in sales tact of RPi? | 10:33 |
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ibeardslee | morning | 18:27 |
ibeardslee | G: I was, but it does make a lot of sense for them | 18:27 |
ibeardslee | ordered mine from http://nz.element14.com/raspberry-pi/raspbrry-pcba/sbc-raspberry-pi-model-b/dp/2081185, although there is a 38 lead time on those. | 18:54 |
ibeardslee | $48.26+GST | 18:55 |
snail | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Wilkes made the front page of wikipedia over night... | 19:05 |
ajmitch | morning | 19:23 |
snail | mÅrena | 19:25 |
Atamira | mornin | 19:35 |
chilts | morning | 19:45 |
codepal | morning | 19:52 |
* codepal hopes ajmitch got an early night ;-) | 19:52 | |
thumper | morning | 19:53 |
thumper | hmm... this channel is now one of four that start #ubuntu- | 19:54 |
codepal | any suggestions for a screwed up 10.04, I installed updates that are giving me segmentation faults on nm-applet & other things... | 19:54 |
thumper | that I have open | 19:54 |
codepal | I'm thinking dpkg --force-downgrade *.deb | 19:54 |
codepal | for some files, but maybe a kernel downgrade would help in this case instead? | 19:54 |
ajmitch | thumper: only 4? | 19:56 |
chilts | *cough* one-upper *cough* :-p | 19:56 |
chilts | sorry, only messing, I had to :) | 19:56 |
codepal | I stuck with LTS because I wanted my wacom tablet to work | 19:57 |
codepal | I had it working | 19:57 |
codepal | now I have no reason to use 10.04, cause it's broken | 19:58 |
* codepal considers upgrading to next LTS | 19:58 | |
snail | thumper: I'd start by reinstalling all currently installed packages... | 19:58 |
codepal | I've no network connection to reinstall with.... | 19:58 |
thumper | codepal: well that blows | 20:01 |
thumper | unfortunately I don't actually know that much about ubuntu :) | 20:02 |
codepal | yea, I'd have to create a script for all the packages I want to reinstall, download that on another machine ( maybe my debian 6 box ) | 20:03 |
codepal | then move those debs over to the faulty 10.04 | 20:03 |
codepal | it's doable, but messy | 20:03 |
ajmitch | boot off live cd, get networking going there, mount & chroot your actual installation, fix it, ???, profit | 20:04 |
* ajmitch got to do that recently when switching out a hard drive in the laptop | 20:04 | |
codepal | ajmitch, that's probably my problem | 20:04 |
codepal | I switched this SSD out of a desktop machine to laptop | 20:04 |
codepal | but when I put it back in the desktop | 20:05 |
codepal | it's still got no networking, gonna try the live-cd route first | 20:05 |
ajmitch | you shouldn't need to take it out to fix it, but getting segfaults on things is a bit interesting | 20:05 |
codepal | a bit? - I don't find it interesting at all | 20:06 |
ajmitch | oh it's interesting, just not desired :) | 20:06 |
codepal | darned inconvenient when it's my main ubuntu LTS that's not working..... | 20:06 |
codepal | I let you know if I make progress | 20:07 |
codepal | if I don't, well, I'll probably sit in a puddle of despair for a couple of days | 20:07 |
ajmitch | or just ask, I'm sure someone has an idea of how it could be fixed | 20:08 |
mwhudson | morning | 20:17 |
ojwb | morning | 20:55 |
G | ibeardslee: (argh powercut) that price is +GST? oh gosh, and I thought it looked like a notbad deal... and yeah, I agree in teh long run it's great for the project, just a pity that they changed it last minute | 22:28 |
ibeardslee | G: yeah +GST | 23:37 |
* ajmitch hopes that shipping isn't extra on top of that | 23:38 | |
ibeardslee | nope | 23:39 |
ibeardslee | it's included | 23:39 |
G | ibeardslee: I couldn't (and still can't) see anything on that page that says +GST, pretty bad imo | 23:40 |
* ojwb wonders if there's any connection between this element14 and the element14 which was part of Acorn's later history | 23:42 | |
G | ibeardslee: ahhh I see, add to cart, check cart = GST magicly appears... at least places like PB Tech are pretty open and forthcoming that GST is extra | 23:43 |
ojwb | maybe they typically supply to businesses | 23:45 |
ojwb | but it would be clearer to mention it alongside the price even so | 23:45 |
G | ojwb: yeah, but even places that supply to businesses and exclude GST have in the footer "Prices exclude GST" | 23:47 |
G | ojwb: RS are good citizens too and make it pretty clear: http://newzealand.rs-online.com/web/p/single-board-computer/7166400/?origin=PSF_352187|fp | 23:49 |
ojwb | element14 don't quote their GST number prominently either | 23:51 |
ojwb | and the "pricing" section of the faq doesn't mention gst | 23:51 |
G | ojwb: I was just going to say that, their FAQ/Help pages don't mention | 23:51 |
G | bad way to go about it imo | 23:52 |
ojwb | yeah | 23:52 |
G | I'd prefer to buy from RS, but RS' NZ & AU sites don't mention the RPi | 23:54 |
G | might fire them off an e-mail and ask | 23:54 |
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