[03:27] <TommyT> Hope things are going well for folks... I haven't checked the logs to see if anyone has been around lately.
[03:29] <TommyT> Anyone actually here tonight? (I can't stay so I don't know why I'm bothering...)
[03:30] <kwadroke> I'm not here
[03:31] <TommyT> oops sorry to bother you then :-)
[03:31] <kwadroke> I'm not sure if anyone else isn't here
[03:31] <kwadroke> :)
[03:31] <kwadroke> long time no see
[03:32] <TommyT> ya... things have been tough around here.  my wife has been sick, and now her mother is sick, too!
[03:32] <kwadroke> that sucks
[03:32] <TommyT> I do have some things I'd like to chat with folks about, but I'm getting the "come to bed" texts earlier than usual since she is sick.
[03:33] <TommyT> Do you use Thunderbird for email?
[03:34] <kwadroke> no
[03:34] <kwadroke> using Gmail at the moment, but thinking of switching
[03:34] <TommyT> I use Gmail for Gmail but T'bird for everything else
[03:35] <TommyT> but it doesn't coexist with Chrome very well on a 1GB RAM netbook.
[03:35] <TommyT> at least I THINK that's the limiting factor
[03:35] <TommyT> The whole thing bogs way down. Seems processor-bound. Either alone is OK (not great).
[03:36] <kwadroke> chrome's sandboxes are nice, but it starts to eat memory
[03:36] <kwadroke> fast
[03:36] <TommyT> That is probably the problem. I always have 6-10 tabs open and I know it makes new processes for each one
[03:37] <TommyT> the latest Thunderbird seems to have some performance issues, too, so between them it's painful
[03:38] <TommyT> The netbook is an Acer Aspire One something-or-other and the RAM is not easy to get to. Not impossible (youtube directions say) but just enough I haven't cracked it
[03:38] <kwadroke> I have 7-8 tabs pinned on my desktop at work and it can take up all my cpu and memory sometimes
[03:39] <TommyT> this desktop system in my office does great with lots of things open, but it has... (looking) lots of ram... don't know how much
[03:40] <TommyT> 3gb RAM and two 2.80gb pentium cores
[03:40] <kwadroke> I think it's mostly a cpu problem for me, it's an old single core cpu
[03:41] <TommyT> it makes a huge difference. The netbook has two 1.8ghz (sorry mistake above) cores
[03:42] <TommyT> I bought a junk single-core 1.8Ghz machine at Luyet the other day for a project for $35 and it just isn't the same. :-)
[03:42] <TommyT> they are really nice -- Debian fans
[03:43] <kwadroke> really... Is that the place on oak>
[03:43] <kwadroke> ?
[03:43] <kwadroke> I need to get about 6-7 junkers
[03:43] <TommyT> I have been intending to take them an Alt install disk (Ubuntu) so they can see it is Debian underneath. Yes, Oak & Harkrider
[03:43] <kwadroke> ok. almost went by there the other day
[03:44] <kwadroke> just show them apt-get, if they are truely debian fans, they'd know
[03:44] <TommyT> about a month ago they had a passel of these Optiplex systems. OK but not much better than the junker I was replacing.
[03:44] <kwadroke> I have a game I need the computers for, but unfortunately it's a windows game
[03:45] <TommyT> Ya these $35 systems come with Windows XP "skinned" with their logo
[03:45] <TommyT> Or maybe it was Windows 7... I never looked
[03:45] <TommyT> I wiped the drive as soon as I got it... then wondered if I would regret it if I need a BIOS update
[03:46] <TommyT> this is one of the models the Dell linux BIOS tools don't work on
[03:46] <TommyT> It also was very picky about RAM; I had to try twice before I found some cheap stuff to get it up to the max 2Gb
[03:47] <kwadroke> you know if they have more?
[03:47] <TommyT> When I bought this one they had three on the floor and said they had bought a pallet of them
[03:47] <TommyT> But now that I think about it I probably bought this in December
[03:47] <TommyT> Or early January
[03:48] <TommyT> They are definitely a better place to buy junkers than Family computer on Front st.
[03:49] <TommyT> I went into Family one day and they were showing me a Dell; wanted $75 for it. They bought it from the hospital. I said "I bet you could get some interesting viruses from that." they said "Not after WE take care of it!" I said (coughing) I meant HUMAN viruses.
[03:50] <kwadroke_> lol
[03:50] <kwadroke_> some reason my connection died
[03:50] <TommyT> does it failover to a different account?
[03:50] <kwadroke_> I went there a couple weeks ago looking for a AT-PS2 adapter
[03:51] <kwadroke_> took me 5 minutes for them to understand
[03:51] <kwadroke_> no, on the webchat client
[03:51] <TommyT> My theory is the guy who runs it started the business because a spouse wanted him out of the house. He smokes a LOT, so everything smells of smoke.
[03:53] <kwadroke_> yeah, I noticed that
[03:53] <TommyT> Well, I still have to go wash some dishes etc. Good to chat with you; Check out Luyet; I was reasonably happy for my $35.
[03:54] <kwadroke_> yeah, might go by there tomorrow
[03:54] <kwadroke_> cya laters
[03:54] <TommyT> seeya
[04:16] <kwadroke> ugggh, keep getting bumped