[03:16] <philipballew_> if only there was a way LibreOffice would type my papers for me...
[05:00] <iheartubuntu> i updated the Game Night wiki... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/GameNights
[05:00] <iheartubuntu> feel free to add comments, change, etc
[05:01] <iheartubuntu> maybe we can whittle down the list
[05:01] <iheartubuntu> would anyone like to test "pyscrabble" with me right now? it should be available in the software center
[05:06] <MarkDude> Whats the link for the Ubuntu parties?
[05:06] <MarkDude> The Jonopalooza one?
[05:10] <iheartubuntu> Jonopalooza.com
[05:10] <iheartubuntu> :D
[05:12] <MarkDude> So its only listed in UTC
[05:12] <MarkDude> For a local event
[05:13] <MarkDude> in one timezone, that makes it rather simple to share with folks....
[05:13] <MarkDude> XD
[05:13] <pleia2> that's just because jono didn't set a timezone for the venue
[05:13] <pleia2> which is kind of weird
[05:14] <pleia2> I can fix it, sec
[05:14] <pleia2> MarkDude: fixed
[05:15] <MarkDude> Yes it said March 2, 2012 10:30 UTC
[05:15] <pleia2> Fri, 02 March 2012 10:30 - 17:00 PST
[05:15] <pleia2> :)
[05:16] <MarkDude> Good, I did not see Jono and G there before the sun rises
[05:16] <pleia2> lol
[05:16] <MarkDude> Thx pleia2 I was inviting a friend
[05:16] <MarkDude> And was like well, just a second
[05:16] <pleia2> sure
[05:19] <MarkDude> Shame it ends at like 5 tho, so it wont be the same time as G-Lug
[05:21] <MarkDude> I dont think they can make it
[05:25] <MarkDude> Hmm I forgot my LP stuff. Besides, people are more likely to show up if they dont expect to see me there :D
[05:27]  * philipballew_ would only come if MarkDude was there
[05:27] <philipballew_> aint no party like a MarkDude party
[05:27] <MarkDude> Fair enough.
[05:27] <MarkDude> lol
[05:28] <MarkDude> Jono's no slouch at parties, he is a downright role model
[05:28] <MarkDude> Did you see that Jono what people think I do picture?
[05:29] <philipballew_> yeah, I saw that. the meme seemed to nail it I think
[05:33] <MarkDude> Well, minus the what he actually does should have had some booze nearby :)
[05:34] <MarkDude> Those that did not see in on FB http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2424094/Jono%20Cm.jpg
[05:38] <iheartubuntu> PyScrabble anyone? :)
[07:05] <philipballew> Whats the proper way to upgrade kernels in debian?
[18:56] <philipballew_> still waiting on the libreoffice plugin to write papers for me. Any takers here who wanna write it for me?
[18:58] <MarkDude> philipballew_ I started using my phone to take dictation, sorta like having someone write for you
[18:59] <philipballew_> my papers on a summery of a book. Maybe if i just block quote the entire sections from the book, I'll get by.
[19:00] <philipballew_> in my writing class last year i got in trouble because every paper i was assigned I chose typing it on why Linux is the best thing ever
[19:01] <philipballew_> so i had to switch to typing all my papers to Discuss Star Wars. they didnt like that either
[19:06] <philipballew_> MarkDude, i think i should do something like that. might be easy
[19:07] <MarkDude> Well it only does a sentence or 2
[19:07] <philipballew_> im also considering bringing a typewritter to class one day to take notes on and see if anyone notices
[19:07] <MarkDude> good enough forr me thol
[19:07] <MarkDude> lol
[19:07] <MarkDude> do it
[19:07] <MarkDude> take pics
[19:08]  * MarkDude is not ready to let google fine tune my results yet
[19:09] <MarkDude> no point in fighting it tho, I have enoughaudio/video of me already on web
[19:11] <philipballew_> march first is the day.
[19:12]  * philipballew_ needs to delete all of his shufflin dancing videos on youtube now
[19:12] <philipballew_> cant have google know im a bad dancer
[19:13] <nhaines> philipballew_: Android 4.0 does infinite, realtime speech-to-text.
[19:13] <nhaines> So if you're really looking for cheap dictation....  (I think Dragon might have some Android software as well, but not sure on that.)
[19:14]  * philipballew_ has a 4 year old att go-phone.
[19:14] <philipballew_> is a brick!
[19:33] <philipballew_> actually I take that back. It usually breaks all time. Its a samsung though.there usually really sturdy
[19:42] <nhaines> I like my old Samsung phones.
[19:45] <philipballew_> there good. I used to have a sony ericcson, but it broke. and this one ife had for 3 years and still works fine.
[19:45] <philipballew_> it makes calls and texts. its all i need as i always have my laptop with me and i live at a place with free wifi everywhere
[19:47]  * MarkDude hella loves his smartphone
[19:48] <MarkDude> Had a razr 3 WITHOUT sd card up until a few weeks ago
[19:48] <MarkDude> Somehow had phones more pink than pleia2
[19:48] <MarkDude> I would break one, and friends would give me old phones- always extra pink
[19:49] <MarkDude> They are very good to have, unless you just use fruit ninja or angry birds :)
[19:51] <philipballew_> all the hipsters and hipster wannabees have iphones. they think there really cool because they have siri
[19:51] <philipballew_> someone in my math class lat week semester used seri on a math class...
[19:51] <raevol> cyanogenmod ftw
[19:51] <raevol> though i can't run it on my droid x :(
[20:03] <BotenAnna> i run miui.us
[20:03] <BotenAnna> it owns
[20:04] <BotenAnna> 420 send all your mobile phone data to Chinese spies every day :D
[20:11] <nhaines> BotenAnna: I am sad because I am downloading Windows 8 but it is very slow.
[20:11] <BotenAnna> nhaines> BotenAnna: I am sad because I am downloading Windows 8
[20:11] <BotenAnna> this seems to be the only important part
[20:13] <nhaines> BotenAnna: I intend to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 on my secondary machine at work once beta hits tomorrow, so I can have it running Windows 8 for a day.
[20:13] <BotenAnna> tiles
[20:15] <nhaines> Also I just realized that the product key in the FAQ and the product key on the download pages are different and this angers me.
[20:21]  * MarkDude has Android. Figured I would ruin any FOSS street cred I have if I got an Iphone
[20:22] <MarkDude> Well any I may have left since I started using photoshop
[20:22] <MarkDude> Which folks tell me I am going to hell for...
[20:31] <BotenAnna> honestly like, if someone's mad about someone using photoshop they can start by using the energy instead to go make the gimp not terrible
[20:32] <BotenAnna> they can start by changing the name to something that isn't horribly ableist
[20:32] <nhaines> BotenAnna: surely you should be *able* to see past the name.
[20:32] <nhaines> See what I did there?
[20:32] <BotenAnna> :V
[20:32] <nhaines> BotenAnna: someone was upset at me the other day because I had a chance to buy Photoshop CS5 for like $37 or something but I didn't.  I don't even remember where the offer was from.
[20:33] <BotenAnna> GNU IMP would be a cool name, with an imp mascot or something
[20:33] <nhaines> BotenAnna: that's already what they have.
[20:33] <BotenAnna> maybe an imp with gnu horns
[20:33] <BotenAnna> this is already like way cooler after 1 minute of brainstorming
[20:33] <BotenAnna> we all lose with ableism~
[20:39]  * philipballew_ can get great deals like that as a information systems major in college
[20:40]  * philipballew_ doesn't take any offers
[20:41] <nhaines> I should've grabbed Office 10 when I had the chance.  But I didn't have an OS to run it on at the time.
[20:42] <philipballew_> my uncle tried to give me visual studio for free last month, but when i said "no thanks. I use vi" he said"well thats your problem" :)
[20:45] <jtatum> some people, when confronted with a problem, think, "i know, i'll use visual studio!"
[20:53] <MarkDude> GIMP name sucks. I NEVER use the name with the public
[20:54]  * MarkDude still uses GIMP tho. CS5 can do some things gimp simply CANT
[20:54] <philipballew_> gim by name means bad.
[20:54] <MarkDude> at all
[20:54] <MarkDude> Well its not a nice word to use
[20:54]  * MarkDude used to use word lame all the time
[20:54] <MarkDude> no longer do
[20:54] <philipballew_> had cs5 punning perfectly under wine last year
[20:55] <MarkDude> it offends some
[20:55] <MarkDude> well I may end up doing that
[20:55] <philipballew_> it would offend someone with a disability for sure.
[20:55] <MarkDude> I dont mind photoshop, as much as I DONT LIKE using Windows
[20:56]  * MarkDude was called gimp when he was in a wheelchair, it was mildly amusing, since what I had was temp
[20:56] <MarkDude> Cant imagine how annoying it must be to hear from some
[20:56] <philipballew_> offending asside, if i made a piece of software i would not call my software disabled. even if there  was an acronym for the word disabled.
[20:56]  * MarkDude wanted to make his own version of Ubuntu at one time
[20:57] <MarkDude> put the buttons on the correct side, and also change the gimp name to ANYTHING ELSE at all
[20:57] <MarkDude> wanted to call it Dudebuntu
[20:57] <MarkDude> :D
[20:58]  * MarkDude kids about the rest, really did want to make RTF version with just icon name change nothing else
[20:58] <philipballew_> for people with a condition such as that, which is so visible to society, it can be hard to be accepted. Its sad in some ways. What I find sad and somewhat amusing is when people try to be nice to someone in a whearchair for the sole reason of being nice that their in a chain so they go and talk to them, then they talk SLOW and LOAD to them
[21:00] <philipballew_> dont worry MarkDude im gonna make sure all official ubuntu cd's for 12,04 antecedently say Philbuntu on them
[21:02] <jyo> So did anyone manage to actually order a Raspberry Pi last night?
[21:03] <philipballew_> i trued, but was unable to
[21:03] <philipballew_> *tried
[21:03] <philipballew_> could be that the paged times out, or his card was declined
[21:03]  * philipballew_ is a poor college student
[21:03] <MarkDude> Rock it
[21:04] <MarkDude> maybe put oldskool like sticker on it- with you in circle of friends- with yourself
[21:04] <philipballew_> like the old 8.whatever cd's with the people holding hands
[21:04]  * MarkDude wants like 12 PIs ty
[21:04] <BotenAnna> 20:55 < philipballew_> it would offend someone with a disability for sure.
[21:05] <BotenAnna> i'm not disabled in any way that "lame" would apply but i'm offended by narrowminded language that equates someone with a physical disability with "bad"
[21:05] <BotenAnna> i expect more out of decent people
[21:05] <philipballew_> i dont think its bad
[21:05] <philipballew_> i agree with you BotenAnna
[21:05] <BotenAnna> right so using "lame" as a substitution for "bad" is... bad! :)
[21:06] <philipballew_> does lame have two meanings maybe?
[21:06] <philipballew_> it can be seen that way?
[21:06] <philipballew_> or it could be seen and used like some people use the term gay to mean stupid
[21:06] <BotenAnna> you can't divorce the two
[21:06] <BotenAnna> using gay to mean stupid is not approrpiate, either
[21:07] <BotenAnna> the very premise that "gay" is equivalent to "bad" is horrid
[21:07] <BotenAnna> because that's what it comes from
[21:08] <BotenAnna> there's no way to use gay as a pejorative devoid of homophobic context
[21:08] <philipballew_> its weird
[21:08] <BotenAnna> well its pretty straightforward really
[21:09] <BotenAnna> equating people's innate trates that they have no control over with "bad" is not a thing that decent people do
[21:09] <BotenAnna> so if you want to be a decent person, don't do it :)
[21:09] <philipballew_> the thought that what someones desires for sex are related to their intelligence level is sad. But I would say that some people who use it dont think about it when they do
[21:10] <BotenAnna> even like, calling people stupid can be pretty ableist
[21:10] <BotenAnna> im trying to do that less myself, but that one is horribly pervasive
[21:10] <BotenAnna> and i myself have to get over the less intelligent = bad way of thinking
[21:11] <BotenAnna> but its the least i can do to work on being a basically decent person
[21:11] <philipballew_> all places say you shouldnt. all people with decent morals wouldnt even
[21:11] <philipballew_> even the bible says people who call someone a fool are in danger of hells fire.
[21:12] <BotenAnna> haha i forgot about that verse
[21:12] <BotenAnna> but good point :)
[21:12] <philipballew_> growing up in placer county, the most right wing county is ca, i would hear many gay, racist slurs come out like nothing. Makes me wonder if they know what they really mean...
[21:13] <BotenAnna> will remember that if im ever talking to a christian that is being stubborn about ableism ;)
[21:15] <philipballew_> that verse is even in what is the new testament BotenAnna , so no Christian can claim it is anything they are not accountable for.  fyi BotenAnna
[21:16] <philipballew_> and fool, by some's logic fool means gimp, lame and gay. so therefor... not a nice thing to say
[21:17] <BotenAnna> one of the reasons im not particularly religious anymore is that there was way more time spent causing divisions between, say, christianity and LGBT/GSM people, than educating people on ableism :3
[21:18] <BotenAnna> just in retrospect now, weird priorities
[21:19] <BotenAnna> actually i have an ubuntu question
[21:19] <BotenAnna> to bring things on topic
[21:19] <philipballew_> do it!
[21:19] <BotenAnna> so i always have problems with more than one ssh key
[21:19] <BotenAnna> it only ever seems to use the first one
[21:20] <BotenAnna> how do i specify id_rsa.1 and such to be used as keys, or specify explicitly when necessary
[21:24] <BotenAnna> ok well for starters, dont ssh from another computer that doesn't have you rkeyfile lmao
[21:25] <broder> BotenAnna: you want to use -i
[21:25] <BotenAnna> broder: thanks, i ended up trying that :D
[21:25] <nhaines>   
[21:34] <jyo> Could always specify IdentityFile for the host in your .ssh/config
[21:37] <philipballew_> Hey! I finished my paper!!!
[21:38] <nhaines> philipballew_: found the "write paper" command?
[21:38] <nhaines> Unity HUD will make that even faster come April.
[21:40] <philipballew_> true, nhaines It look me a long time reading man pages, but i finially found it. saved me from having to read the book
[21:50]  * MarkDude was ordained online, and is willing to perform marriages of people gay straight , whatever
[21:50] <MarkDude> I know a few real ministers or whatever their title is that do too:)
[21:50]  * MarkDude has never had luck with more than one ssh key, I think they fight it out or sumthin'.....
[21:50] <MarkDude> :D
[21:52] <philipballew_> my paper is on Early Christian history and I pray I dont misspell gentile with a word that sounds similar. Thats what happened last time...
[21:52] <nhaines> pleia2: cats.
[21:52]  * philipballew_ loves cats
[21:52] <pleia2> cats++
[21:53]  * philipballew_ has two
[21:53] <philipballew_> i always see stray ones around here and I wanna snatch one sometime and take it home with me
[21:53]  * philipballew_ is out
[22:03] <MarkDude> Cats are great. The 6 month old 10 pound kitten has really figured out how to type, hit enter, as well as open all sorts of dialogs and random pages
[22:28] <bkerensa> MarkDude: http://i.imgur.com/p5urc.png
[22:43] <MarkDude> What is that pic of bkerensa ?
[22:43] <bkerensa> MarkDude: That would be a giant candy cane man walking down the streets in Portland
[22:43] <bkerensa> :D
[22:44] <bkerensa> they are occupying the streets again
[22:44] <MarkDude> Right on
[22:44] <MarkDude> Portland does not do boring either
[22:44] <bkerensa> I'm glad they stay downtown and don't try that nonsense on the East Side
[22:44] <bkerensa> :D
[22:44] <MarkDude> CAn I expect to see this in upcoming episode of Portlandia?
[22:45] <BotenAnna> im only impressed if there is a bird on the candy cane man
[22:48] <bkerensa> MarkDude: They are occupying the Oregonian offices right now
[22:48] <bkerensa> heh
[22:49] <MarkDude> Did you see the mayor on Portlandia?
[22:50] <MarkDude> He was making some fun of himself and the city.
[22:50] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Yeah I have seen a little bit
[22:50] <MarkDude> He is rather funny. I highly doubt he would have been elected without name like sam Adams
[22:55] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Yeah... He is not running for re-election but I doubt he had a chance at being re-elected anyways and likely most of the city council will lose their seats
[22:56] <bkerensa> :D
[22:58] <MarkDude> Well, I really like how Portland in general could care less how gay he is
[22:58] <MarkDude> I mean folkks that hated his politics mostly never brought it up
[22:59] <MarkDude> Hey is that the mayor in drag? Yep (everyone goes back to what they were doing)