[00:00] <M4dH4tt3r> Could not burn the image (The provided stream to write is not supported)
[00:01] <CFHowlett> M4dH4tt3r   make a usb instead?
[00:01] <M4dH4tt3r> yeah i was just trying to avoid downloading something to do it
[00:01]  * M4dH4tt3r is lazy
[00:02] <Muelli> M4dH4tt3r: i think you can just dd the ISO to the pendrive.
[00:02] <M4dH4tt3r> no
[00:02] <M4dH4tt3r> has to be mounted
[00:02] <MonkeyDust> M4dH4tt3r  or use MultiSystem
[00:02] <Rico> !lis
[00:02] <M4dH4tt3r> i was just gonna use yumi
[00:02] <Rico> !list
[00:03] <M4dH4tt3r> lol
[00:03] <M4dH4tt3r> warez?
[00:03] <Muelli> M4dH4tt3r: I *think* nowadays you don't need to mount anything. Just dd the image onto the pendrive and off you go. Haven't tried it myself...
[00:03] <dez4rk> M4dH4tt3r: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[00:03] <M4dH4tt3r> already got it
[00:04] <scientes> to install to usb just do cat foo.iso > /dev/sd[letter]
[00:04] <scientes> but be careful to not write on your disk
[00:04]  * M4dH4tt3r isnt using nix atm
[00:04] <Muelli> well. obviously, that's the first problem ;-)
[00:04] <M4dH4tt3r> :P
[00:05] <Muelli> so you're not asking for Ubuntu support anyway...
[00:05] <M4dH4tt3r> i am not gender biast i swing both ways ;)
[00:05] <dez4rk> M4dH4tt3r: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ ?
[00:05] <M4dH4tt3r> yeah thats a goodun
[00:05] <haux> The partition table on one of my hard disks looks like this: sdb1 sdb2 (free space) sdb4 (free space). sdb4 is my /var directory in Ubuntu. I'd like to move it up to sdb3, so I can create a new sdb4 extended partition to make a few more logical ones. How can I do that without messing up Ubuntu?
[00:06] <Muelli> haux: check gparted. It's quite convienient. I hope that won't mess up anything. Can't guarantee, though.
[00:06] <Muelli> haux: to be totally safe, boot off a different disk, i.e.pendrive or CDROM and then move your partition up.
[00:06] <haux> Muelli, I don't think gparted can move partitions OVER other partitions. At least, not that I can figure out
[00:08] <haux> I know you can customize the placement of a partition in am enpty space, but that's all I see that the resize/move option can do.
[00:08] <Muelli> haux: boot off another drive and try gparted then.
[00:08] <_Marcus> How do I make Gnome load by default instead of Unity?
[00:09] <_Marcus> I already installed Gnome.
[00:09] <Muelli> _Marcus: just select it once in the display manager and it should be selected the next time you log in.
[00:09] <urfr332gO> _Marcus, choose it at login and it will default there
[00:09] <_Marcus> Muelli: Where is that?
[00:10] <Muelli> _Marcus: in the display manager, the thing that let's you enter the password once you've booted up.
[00:10] <urfr332gO> _Marcus, the gear next to the login is a dropdown
[00:10] <_Marcus> Thanks Muelli and urfr332g0!
[00:10] <_Marcus> urfr332gO*
[00:11] <urfr332gO> _Marcus, no problem. :)
[00:12] <rickk> hi
[00:12] <rickk> main: ../../src/xcb_io.c:183: process_responses: Assertion `!(req && current_request && !(((long) (req->sequence) - (long) (current_request)) <= 0))' failed.
[00:12] <rickk> Aborted
[00:12] <emu> bluefrog: Ah, thanks a lot.
[00:13] <rickk> please help me to resolve this problem
[00:13] <Muelli> rickk: well.. What software is that?
[00:13] <Muelli> rickk: It's a bug in the software, really...
[00:14] <rickk> I am developing stream server
[00:14] <rickk> my software...
[00:15] <Muelli> so fix your software then, rickk.
[00:15] <L3top> lol
[00:15] <rickk> can you tell me where should I look?
[00:15] <Muelli> no. that's offtopic. Maybe buy a book or two on programming.
[00:16] <Muelli> !offtopic | rickk
[00:16] <rickk> the thing is it happened suddenly
[00:17] <rickk> i didn't changed anything
[00:19] <dedicated1> hi I am trying to set up an ufw firewall but I cannot figure out which port to open to allow irc to connect. and even when I managed to open some I could connect to quakenet but not to freenode. anyone here that can help me with that?
[00:19] <Muelli> hm dedicated1. How do you know that you can't connect to freenode/
[00:20] <dedicated1> it kept trying to log on to it but couldn't
[00:20] <dedicated1> while quakenet had no problems
[00:20] <Muelli> dedicated1: how do you know?
[00:21] <dedicated1> in empathy you see the some icon trying to connect, quakenet account got connected, freenode kept spinning
[00:22] <dedicated1> now i turned off the firewall to ask for help here
[00:22] <Muelli> hm dedicated1. Can you use smth more verbose, i.e. xchat or even telnet..?
[00:22] <frederick> hi friends
[00:22] <dedicated1> I am sorry but I think it is Empathy, it's the Ubuntu 11.10 default
[00:23] <dedicated1> hi there frederick
[00:23] <frederick> im from colombian then mi english is more or less
[00:23] <_Marcus> dedicated1: I don't think you need to open a port to connect out. You only need it to accept in(You(server) <- Other(client)), not connect out(You(client) -> Other(server)).
[00:23] <Muelli> i.e. do "telnet irc.freenode.org 6667" and paste us the output
[00:23] <Muelli> ?
[00:23] <_Marcus> frederick: What is your native language? Ubuntu has many rooms for many languages
[00:24] <_Marcus> frederick: It may be easier to talk to someone in your native language.
[00:24] <frederick> im spanish
[00:24] <_Marcus> !es | frederick, this may help
[00:24] <frederick> i like this room
[00:24] <_Marcus> Okay
[00:24] <_Marcus> So, what problem are you having with Ubuntu?
[00:25] <dedicated1> erwin@ubuntu:~$ telnet irc.freenode.org 6667
[00:25] <dedicated1> Trying 193.219.128.49...
[00:25] <dedicated1> Connected to chat.freenode.net.
[00:25] <dedicated1> Escape character is '^]'.
[00:25] <FloodBot1> dedicated1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:25] <dedicated1> :sendak.freenode.net NOTICE * :*** Looking up your hostname...
[00:25] <Muelli> dedicated1: uh. use pastebin
[00:25] <dedicated1> :sendak.freenode.net NOTICE * :*** Checking Ident
[00:26] <_Marcus> Oh, Floodbot
[00:26] <_Marcus> That should be a TV show
[00:26] <Muelli> dedicated1: anyway, your connection to freenode works. But probably you have the firewall turned off.
[00:26] <dedicated1> I have it turned off yes
[00:26] <dedicated1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/861304/
[00:26] <Muelli> dedicated1: turn it on and try again.
[00:26] <dedicated1> roger
[00:27] <_Marcus> What does ufw have to do with connecting to freenode?
[00:27] <Muelli> dedicated1: well done anyway. Nicely quoted your shell in its entirety. Very well done.
[00:27] <dedicated1> is that bad? xD
[00:28] <_Marcus> Not at all
[00:28] <Muelli> no, it's good. go ahead with the firewall turned on. If it returns the very same output, your firewall is fine.
[00:29] <danpsy> Is there any documentation for letting your application update the icons in real time with Unity?  (i.e. nuding the icon, displaying a number, progress bar, etc)
[00:29] <dedicated1> same output so far but maybe it's not active yet.. I'm gonna log out and back in and see what it does. thank you for your help Muelli
[00:31] <jord_> hey guys i have a 313u air card from at&t and i want to use it but its not recognized in ubuntu  any help??????!!!!!!!!
[00:35] <Muelli> well jord. there might be no driver for it. I'd recommend to unplug it, reboot, login, do a dmesg -c, plug it in, do a dmesg -c and give us the output.
[00:38] <jord_> can somone help me my 313u air card 4g is not recognized in ubuntu 11.04
[00:42] <jalal> hi
[00:49] <UnknownFearNG> hey al
[00:49] <UnknownFearNG> all*
[00:50] <_Marcus> Hello, UnkownFearNG
[00:51] <pokuy> hi to all
[00:52] <CFHowlett> pokuy   greetings
[00:53] <pokuy> CFHowlett, hi can i ask something, how to unintall in ubuntu from download file?
[00:53] <CFHowlett> pokuy   you couldn't install from software center??
[00:54] <CFHowlett> is that install or uninstall
[00:55] <pokuy> CFHowlett, i just download the file and i want to uninstall it its not from the software center or package ,its a third party software
[00:56] <CFHowlett> pokuy   is this a .deb file?
[00:56] <pokuy> CFHowlett, yes
[00:57] <DShepherd> hello all. Can someone tell me what I need to do to find out when (what date) my Ubuntu OS was installed?
[00:57] <CFHowlett> pokuy   sudo dpkg -r filename.deb
[00:57] <Random833> DShepherd: what date was your home directory created
[00:57] <JulinBM> I can not see / home partition on the monitor
[00:58] <JulinBM> is "flashing"
[00:58] <Random833> DShepherd: seriously, check the timestamp on a file you have never edited, like .face or examples.desktop
[00:59] <JulinBM> _srp: do you helpme?
[00:59] <UnknownFearNG> _Marcus: hello
[01:01] <DShepherd> hmm. let me check Random833
[01:01] <kingofswords> my video is crashing all the time in 10.04.....utube ads play but main vid crashes......any ideas?
[01:01] <Random832> kingofswords: what flash plugin do you have installed
[01:01] <kingofswords> lastest
[01:01] <Random832> also, what video is it? maybe it's a different format from the ads
[01:02] <kingofswords> Random832, i have no idea
[01:02] <kingofswords> Random832, i have flashaid
[01:02] <Random832> whats that
[01:02] <kingofswords> Random832, sum useless prog sum1 here recommended me
[01:03] <kingofswords> video is fine in windows btw
[01:03] <tomvolek> HI , all of a sudden, I am getting   apache http segmetnation faults and its not stopping :)
[01:05] <kingofswords> any help
[01:05] <TheAncientGoat> kingofswords: try disabling hardware accelleration
[01:06] <designbybeck> Any "R - stat" users in here? I'm trying to find people that use it in Linux?
[01:06] <TheAncientGoat> right click on video - settings, advanced, untick hardware accelleration
[01:06] <tensorpudding> does anyone know what causes notify-osd to be started in gnome sessions?
[01:07] <RoDiMuS-X> Hello, I was wondering if anyone can suggest a good RSS Reader for Ubuntu
[01:07] <Scunizi> !rss
[01:07] <kingofswords> TheAncientGoat, thx that seems to stopped the crashes
[01:07] <Scunizi> Is the bot sleeping?
[01:07] <trism> tensorpudding: a request for the org.freedesktop.Notifications service, defined in /usr/share/dbus-1/services/
[01:07] <_Marcus> !ping
[01:08] <_Marcus> Scunizi: Nope
[01:08] <tensorpudding> trism, gnome-shell provides org.freedesktop.Notifications
[01:08] <RoDiMuS-X> !rss
[01:08] <tensorpudding> it's not proper that it should start notify-osd
[01:08] <RoDiMuS-X> I guess the Bot doesn't know
[01:08] <_Marcus> There is no "rss" node
[01:08] <Scunizi> _Marcus: guess not.. I saw it did send me a private message that it didn't know anything about rss.. that was after my post that I noticed it.
[01:08] <tensorpudding> every single time i log in, i have to kill notify-osd and restart gnome-shell
[01:08] <tensorpudding> it's getting to be a truly egregious cycle
[01:09] <Scunizi> tensorpudding: uninstall it
[01:09] <tensorpudding> i don't want to have to, since it's required for ubuntu-desktop
[01:09] <trism> tensorpudding: I do understand this, I believe there is a race when it starts, because I've had times where gnome-shell gets it first, and other notify-osd. As a workaround I just install notification-daemon and uninstall notify-osd
[01:09] <RoDiMuS-X> So I guess no recommendations
[01:09] <tensorpudding> yes, but it's a bug
[01:09] <tensorpudding> and i filed a bug on it
[01:09] <tensorpudding> and recommended that
[01:12] <ken> my ubuntu 11.10 partition seems to hang on boot,  just before the login screen;  suggestions?
[01:12]  * ken looks for changes recently made
[01:12] <tensorpudding> and they said they can't remove notify-osd from ubuntu-desktop
[01:13] <trism> tensorpudding: that isn't a fix for the bug, just a workaround
[01:13] <tensorpudding> i know
[01:16] <nyancattt> i'm using wireless braondband and i want to know whether i'm now using gsm or hsdpa , how to find out ?
[01:17] <nyancattt> or which app is good for wireless braodband ?
[01:20] <derp> Is Evolution the best email client for linux that includes exchange support?
[01:21] <Random832> Anyone know how to install a new keyboard layout?
[01:21] <Random832> like, so i can properly select it in gnome - no crufty xmodmap crap
[01:23] <kthomas2> hmm.  setting my Synaptic driver *.conf to emulate middle button mouse clicks,  hangs boot
[01:27] <tensorpudding> i filed a new bug for the problem, this time in notify-osd
[01:27] <tensorpudding> since it's probably notify-osd's fault
[01:28] <nyancattt> i'm using wireless braondband and i want to know how to force it to use  hsdpa
[01:29] <tensorpudding> my conspiratorial mindset is the devs don't care because they don't care about providing a good gnome-shell experience
[01:29] <tensorpudding> of course it's probably not true
[01:30] <nyancattt> nobody know the answer ?
[01:32] <laisner> can i convert my primary partition to a logical one without data loss?
[01:32] <konam> is there a way to make nautilus not show icons next to items of the context menu?
[01:33] <zykotick9> laisner: that's a odd request, what do you really want to do?
[01:33] <laisner> trying to get dual boot going but gparted tells me i already have 4 primary partitions when i try create a new one
[01:35] <zykotick9> laisner: ya, there is a 4 primary limit.  I doubt you can do much without deleting one of those primary to create an extended (but i'm not big on changing partioning after the fact, so someone else might have a better idea)
[01:35] <laisner> thats what i thought : /
[01:35] <guest-IXXLti> i change a setting in ccs and now i have to log in as guest to do anything with my computer. I cant get back in to ccs through my username to change it back
[01:35] <guest-IXXLti> could someone tell me what i can do to fix that?
[01:36] <urfr332gO> laisner, are those windows partitions?
[01:36] <guest-IXXLti> changed*
[01:36] <zykotick9> guest-IXXLti: just to be clear, do you mean ccsm (compiz config settings manager)
[01:36] <guest-IXXLti> yes i do
[01:36] <zykotick9> just ckeckin'
[01:36] <TUX11> can someone tell me how to get libpython2.7
[01:36] <laisner> nope
[01:36] <laisner> the one i need to change are ext4
[01:37] <urfr332gO> laisner, you can clone one probably, put a exteneded in and reload it inside and have lots of logicals.
[01:38] <jizzbeard> jizz
[01:38] <jizzbeard> beard
[01:38] <guest-IXXLti> zykotick9: do you know how i can pull cssm back up, through use of the terminal or something?
[01:38] <laisner> what program would you suggest for such a procedure ?
[01:38] <laisner> and how safe is it :-P
[01:39] <zykotick9> guest-IXXLti: sorry - i don't have any suggestions.  good luck.
[01:39] <urfr332gO> laisner, actually you would have to dd it probably a clone would not change the partition tyype, my bad.
[01:39] <laisner> i would need to clone the data and not the partition i guess
[01:39] <laisner> back up sort of thing
[01:39] <urfr332gO> laisner, yeah waht are the 4 partitions now?
[01:39] <urfr332gO> what*
[01:40] <laisner> have a boot, swap, filesystem and home dir partition
[01:40] <TUX11> guys i keep getting this message Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: python2.7 (= 2.7-6)
[01:40] <guest-IXXLti> can you pull applications with a gui up with a terminal?
[01:40] <urfr332gO> laisner, this a msdos set up noy guid?
[01:40] <urfr332gO> not*
[01:40] <laisner> arch setup
[01:41] <urfr332gO> laisner, I doubt you need the boot partition.
[01:41] <laisner> hmmm maybe your right
[01:42] <TUX11> guys i keep getting this message Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: python2.7 (= 2.7-6) andnot sure how to fix it
[01:43] <urfr332gO> laisner, if it is lvm or encrypted I would not know there though.
[01:43] <itaylor57> TUX11, what version of ubuntu and what are you running to get the error
[01:43] <TUX11> 10.4
[01:43] <TUX11> LTS. sorry in noob
[01:44] <TUX11> and its vbox
[01:44] <TUX11> version 4
[01:45] <laisner> if i remove the boot partition i would have to change fstab and such right ?
[01:46] <nyancattt> how to force my wireless connection to hsdpa in ubuntu ? anyone know ?
[01:46] <TUX11> is it a corrup file?
[01:46] <TUX11> corrpt
[01:49] <erpo> I installed kubuntu-desktop and now I have the kubuntu boot screen (blue with the kubuntu text). How do I get the default boot screen back?
[01:49] <platius> laisner, http://askubuntu.com/questions/30130/remove-boot-partition
[01:49] <laisner> How can i check which partition is primary and which is logical?
[01:49] <erpo> laisner: partitions ending with numbers 1-4 are primary. Those ending with number 5+ are logical.
[01:50] <laisner> ok
[01:51] <adpaolucci> eta for the new LTS still april?
[01:51] <erpo> adpaolucci: Why would they be off?
[01:51] <laisner> is there any reason to have a small partition dedicated to boot? might as well ask now that im considering deleting it
[01:51] <adpaolucci> wondering if it got moved up by some miricale
[01:52] <adpaolucci> *miracle
[01:52] <erpo> laisner: If you have one, don't delete it. If you're installing a new system, you don't need it.
[01:52] <arleslie> Hey guys, I'm trying to find a package for Remserial, I've checked out ser2net but it's not working the way I need it and the only alternative I can find is Remserial but it seems to be missing out of the repos (used to be in 9.04 repos), any ideas on where I can get this?
[01:52] <laisner> I have one but i need the primary partition spot for my dual boot
[01:53] <Ady> hi, can someone help me to delete java and install jdk 7 ?
[01:53] <mrguser> Hi!
[01:53] <erpo> laisner: You have Linux installed already and you're installing Windows next to it?
[01:54] <urfr332gO> laisner, the only OS that needs primaries is a windows OS partition,
[01:54] <itaylor57> Ady, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[01:55] <mrguser> Can i request some conky configs?
[01:56] <urfr332gO> mrguser, they are all over the web
[01:56] <urfr332gO> mrguser, the ubuntu forums has a huge thread of them.
[01:57] <Linuxephus> Might there be somebody here familiar with the IRSSI Client?
[01:57] <ZenIRCBot> Linuxephus: Use weechat.
[01:57] <Ady> itaylor57, i want to delete 1st
[01:57] <mrguser>  urfr332g0 still if u have can u plz share it with me?
[01:57] <bazhang> ZenIRCBot, thats not what he asked for help with
[01:57] <bazhang> Linuxephus, whats the issue
[01:58] <mrguser> Linuxephus i use mirrg on my symbian phone
[01:58] <Linuxephus> ZenIRCBot: No. now be silent infidel.
[01:58] <Linuxephus> It takes a bit of getting used to, that's for sure.
[01:59] <bazhang> Linuxephus, specific question? there's also #irssi
[01:59] <ZenIRCBot> bazhang: Use weechat.
[01:59] <bazhang> ZenIRCBot, irssi
[01:59] <ZenIRCBot> bazhang: Use weechat.
[01:59] <mrguser> Yeah it does
[01:59] <urfr332gO> mrguser, http://paste.ubuntu.com/861381/
[01:59] <itaylor57> Ady, what version of ubuntu? what jdk do you have installed? how did you install it?
[02:00] <MrStupid> can I install to an encfs filesystem?
[02:00] <brian_s> Hey All
[02:00] <mrguser> Thanks 4 sharing !
[02:01] <itaylor57> Ady, i have 5 jdk's running on my system
[02:01] <urfr332gO> mrguser, sits in top right fairly basic.
[02:01] <mrguser> Thanks urfr332g0
[02:02] <brian_s> anyone know of a good article on best practices for an Ubuntu LAMP server - security - etc
[02:02] <urfr332gO> mrguser, no problem acts a bit weird in gnome 3 though not always the same place, not sure why.
[02:02] <cory_> #xbinx
[02:03] <cory_> #xbins
[02:03] <simba_zhang> hello
[02:03] <bazhang> ZenIRCBot, hi
[02:03] <simba_zhang> hi
[02:04] <bazhang> ZenIRCBot, irssi
[02:04] <ZenIRCBot> bazhang: Use weechat.
[02:04] <tazjin> Hej, is anyone running 11.10 on a 2011 iMac?
[02:04] <mrguser>  urfr332g0 i have gnome 2.32 on my natty so the file works just fine thanks again
[02:04] <Guest95681> ey i dont know both after 20 minuts of runin ubuntu may computer jus freez
[02:05] <mrguser> Bye!
[02:08] <Escherial> hello; i seem to be missing my good old rdp client...it's been replaced by "remote desktop viewer", which is vastly inferior
[02:09] <Escherial> never mind, about to try krdc to see if it's any better
[02:11] <Escherial> actually, scratch that, too; remmina looks very nice :D
[02:14] <Oredigger> Adobe Flash is no longer working in FireFox  I reinstalled the flash package, but that didn't help.  Any ideas?
[02:15] <daniel__> anybody
[02:15] <Oredigger> I'm not sure if it's site specific.  I'm having trouble loading this video http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/mon-february-27-2012-neil-degrasse-tyson
[02:16] <daniel__> some one
[02:16] <bazhang> daniel__, you've not asked a question
[02:17] <daniel__> i try to learn ubuntu,do you have some book?
[02:17] <bazhang> Oredigger, yep, not working here either. perhaps a new version of flash was just released
[02:17] <bazhang> !manual | daniel__
[02:17] <bazhang> !wiki | daniel__ and this
[02:18] <Oredigger> bleh, I'll have to load windows to watch it...
[02:18] <grysa> mmmmmmm ubuntu keep freezing after like 20 minutes
[02:19] <bazhang> grysa, while doing what
[02:19] <Oredigger> bazhang TY for the confirmation.  It's at least not just my machine.
[02:19] <bazhang> how much ram, what's running, what does top show grysa
[02:19] <daniel__> thx bazhang
[02:20] <grysa> nothing it just freeze
[02:20] <bazhang> grysa, how about answering my questions
[02:22] <Random832> i forget, how do i fix my window decorations?
[02:23] <grysa> 8 gb of ram 1tb hard drive and i jus freez
[02:23] <KaeruCT> ubanto
[02:23] <bazhang> grysa, what does top show. what processes are running, please list the top 2 or 3
[02:23] <Dr_willis> Random832, you mean run 'compiz --replace' ?
[02:24] <M4dH4tt3r> send it to me grysa ill fix it :D
[02:24] <bazhang> M4dH4tt3r, thats not helpful
[02:25] <M4dH4tt3r> actually it kind of is beause it caused me to think of something ;)
[02:25] <bazhang> !ot > M4dH4tt3r
[02:26] <Dr_willis> grysa,  also is it a desktop? laptop? whats your video card?  if you run the live cd - does it also freeze after 20 min. If you just let it sit does it freeze,  basically we need to figure out if its freezing due to overheating, or driver or app crashing.
[02:26] <lolmatic> hello
[02:26] <bazhang> grysa, open a terminal, type top: what processes do you see running; list the top 2 or 3
[02:26] <lolmatic> i am looking for tools to download files from one click hosters on the shell
[02:26] <Dr_willis> lolmatic,  cant say ive ever seen any.  - seen browser extensions. but thats it.
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[02:27] <Tribal> Erm
[02:27] <Dr_willis> lolmatic,  you are refering to those 'free file hosting sites' like.. err.. rapidshare, and others.
[02:27] <lolmatic> yes
[02:28] <bazhang> Tribal, ?
[02:28] <KaeruCT> he's bugging
[02:28] <lemmu> hi kaery
[02:28] <CreativeGuy> LAMP Channel was dead
[02:31] <bazhang> CreativeGuy, support question related to same?
[02:33] <CreativeGuy> hey bazhang - sorry I did not see your post
[02:33] <CreativeGuy> I was just looking for good CURRENT info on running a secure LAMP server
[02:33] <zennez0009> hello, new ubuntu user here
[02:33] <bazhang> did not think that 'lamp' had a channel
[02:34] <zennez0009> i juz did a clean install of ubuntu and run update manager
[02:34] <zennez0009> after i did a full update
[02:34] <zennez0009> i cant connect to wireless anymore
[02:34] <CreativeGuy> most stuff seems out of date and lots of incomplete info on best practices
[02:34] <bazhang> zennez0009, kernel update?
[02:34] <zennez0009> i was able to connect wireless before update manager full date
[02:34] <CreativeGuy> I typed in LAMP to the channel search
[02:34] <CreativeGuy> bunch of people sitting in there - no chatting
[02:35] <CreativeGuy> lots of <crickets>
[02:35] <CreativeGuy> I was just looking in Apache channels
[02:35] <bazhang> CreativeGuy, whats the specific issue? how to install it? or what
[02:35] <CreativeGuy> actually - I found my way through installing - it was really easy
[02:36] <bazhang> zennez0009, tried booting into an earlier kernel?
[02:36] <zennez0009> bazhang, i use update manager until the system was up to day
[02:36] <CreativeGuy> I have some Rackspace Cloud servers setup
[02:36] <zennez0009> now i cant use wireless
[02:36] <zennez0009> how do i do that?
[02:36] <CreativeGuy> I just started my own IT Consuting company
[02:36] <zennez0009> however if i disable my wirelss
[02:36] <bazhang> zennez0009, tried booting into an earlier kernel?
[02:36] <zennez0009> and restart
[02:36] <CreativeGuy> I was planning to work through this and get my ducks in a row before havig clients
[02:36] <CreativeGuy> having*
[02:36] <zennez0009> and enable my wirelss after restart i am able to connect to one network
[02:37] <CreativeGuy> but I am still coming up to speed and I am getting slammed by new clients
[02:37] <CreativeGuy> word is out I guess
[02:37] <zennez0009> if i disconnect my wireless . i have to repeat the trick. disable wireless. restart and connect again
[02:37] <CreativeGuy> I don't want to be that guy deploying crap LAMP servers
[02:37] <zennez0009> i can only connect to one wireless network per restart
[02:37] <CreativeGuy> so I have servers active - reading through my amazon books on Ubuntu
[02:38] <Varq> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu and I have no idea what I'm doing. I want to user a version of Blender from graphicall.org, but I have no idea what to do with the files.
[02:38] <CreativeGuy> just not enough time and it scares the hell out of me
[02:38] <erpo> Varq: The normal blender won't do for you?
[02:39] <CreativeGuy> I have the Ubuntu 11.10 Server Admin & Reference book
[02:40] <CreativeGuy> it is not bad - but typical of books
[02:40] <CreativeGuy> here do this
[02:40] <CreativeGuy> this will install
[02:40] <CreativeGuy> great - now what
[02:40] <FloodBot1> CreativeGuy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:40] <Varq> erpo: Well, I'm using a modifier that isn't in the official build of Blender in my current model.
[02:40] <CreativeGuy> search Ubuntu forms - most stuff is several revisions behind
[02:40] <erpo> Varq: What is name of the file you downloaded?
[02:41] <Varq> Blender 2.62.0 (Non-Bmesh Edition) +UV Offset Modifier + blah blah blah. http://graphicall.org/832
[02:42] <CreativeGuy> you catch all that bazhang?
[02:42] <bazhang> CreativeGuy, I did not see any actual question
[02:42] <CreativeGuy> lol
[02:42] <CreativeGuy> ok
[02:42] <CreativeGuy> so I have LAMP servers up and running in cloud
[02:42] <NitroTiger> I think screwed up xorg.conf and on start up screen stays blank what can I do now to revert it ?
[02:43] <CreativeGuy> I need a good document on current LAMP best practices for securing
[02:43] <bazhang> CreativeGuy, no need to retype all that---actual question?
[02:43] <erpo_> NitroTiger: For reasons purely related to my blood pressure, I would reinstall. Nobody likes editing xorg.conf.
[02:44] <CreativeGuy> you have a link?
[02:44] <CreativeGuy> sorry for my newbness - trying my best to search docs
[02:47] <NitroTiger> erpo: well installed 11.10 and in etc/x11 there was no xorg file so but my old xorg.conf for my Samsung monitor there. Isn't there really way to revert that some how?
[02:47] <erpo> NitroTiger: Did you install 11.10 fresh or did you upgrade?
[02:48] <erpo> NitroTiger: Also, are you saying there was no xorg.conf file right after you finished installation?
[02:48] <zykotick9> erpo: xorg.conf is not present by default - not typically used
[02:49] <erpo> zykotick9: Dang. I feel like a geezer.
[02:49] <erpo> zykotick9: If you don't remember init, get off my lawn! :)
[02:49] <NitroTiger> erpo:Fresh few days ago. Yes there was no file and my screen was unknown and low res. So hence I NASA long ago file for my monitor what I used before
[02:50] <erpo> NitroTiger: NASA?
[02:50] <NitroTiger> Sorry I'm on my phone and f* dictionary
[02:51] <NitroTiger> I ment made long ago
[02:51] <erpo> NitroTiger: So it boots and you can log in, but it was at a low resolution? What kind of video card do you have?
[02:51] <NitroTiger> Mobile 4
[02:51] <NitroTiger> On laptop
[02:51] <erpo> NitroTiger: What is the model of your laptop?
[02:52] <NitroTiger> Vaio
[02:52] <erpo> NitroTiger: Exact model number?
[02:52] <erpo> NitroTiger: There is more than one Sony Vaio.
[02:52] <NitroTiger> Vgn na38e
[02:53] <erpo> na38e?
[02:53] <NitroTiger> Ns38e
[02:56] <bilal03> hello there
[02:56] <NitroTiger> erpo: And any ideas?
[02:56] <gryza> I can't change the wireless cards channel
[02:56] <erpo> NitroTiger: I'm doing some research.
[02:57] <NitroTiger> Erpo: Thanks,
[02:57] <bilal03> I can't change resolution to 1440x900, it just stuck on 1024x768, i m using ubuntu 11.10
[02:57] <soreau> gryza: iwconfig <iface> channel <channel>
[02:57] <erpo> NitroTiger: Have you tried changing the resolution with the display tool?
[02:57] <bilal03> it was working right till last night
[02:57] <chipotle> what's the best program to rip blurays on ubuntu 10.10?
[02:58] <erpo> chipotle: I don't know that blu-ray copy protection has been thoroughly broken yet.
[02:58] <NitroTiger> erpo: And how I do that
[02:58] <Varq> erpo: Sorry to bug you, but did you know what to do with those files?
[02:58] <bilal03> I can't change resolution to 1440x900, it just stuck on 1024x768, i m using ubuntu 11.10
[02:59] <erpo> Varq: I got disconnected for a bit. I asked which files you downloaded.
[02:59] <erpo> NitroTiger: Can you log in?
[02:59] <Ninja-1> bilal03: what's your video card?
[02:59] <bilal03> Ninja-1, intel Q965
[02:59] <bilal03> its was working right with my hp 19" monitor
[02:59] <bilal03> Ninja-1, its was working right with my hp 19" monitor
[03:00] <NitroTiger> No i start my pc enter BIOS pass it starts loading ubuntu and screen turns blank
[03:00] <gryza> mmm still selling router is in channel 3 but card is on channel 1
[03:00] <Varq> erpo: http://graphicall.org/832 It's Blender 2.62 w/ UV Offset Modifier.
[03:00] <bilal03> Ninja-1, but now in display settings it does not show my monitor name
[03:01] <erpo> NitroTiger: Does the backlight turn off?
[03:01] <NitroTiger> No
[03:03] <erpo> NitroTiger: Have you installed ubuntu yet or are you trying to boot from the live cd?
[03:03] <Ninja-1> bilal03: what's the output of running "xrandr" in a terminal?
[03:04] <NitroTiger> erpo: It Is installed
[03:06] <erpo> NitroTiger: So it worked when you booted from the live cd but it doesn't work now. What have you done since you installed it?
[03:08] <NitroTiger> erpo: I installed it for while ago so I wanted to get my big screen working normally and i but my custom xorg.conf into x11 after reboot that happened
[03:08] <L551> Trying to get my printer to work in Ubuntu, but CUPS doesn't have a driver for it
[03:09] <soreau> ! printer | L551
[03:10] <matias> HOla
[03:10] <L551> Soreau, it's not listed.
[03:10] <Guest65509> estoy en problemas, necesito un poco de ayuda
[03:11] <soreau> L551: Then it may not be supported. Have you tried googling the model number with keyword ubuntu?
[03:11] <nicknick> How can I get this annoying low battery warning to stop popping up on my laptop? It indicates I only have ~45 min left with 100% charged battery (which is very wrong. it's about 5 hrs.). It is very irritating. I'm running 11.10. Any suggestions please?
[03:11] <djthree> Hola, alguno habla español?
[03:11] <nicknick> Un poco
[03:11] <soreau> ! es | djthree
[03:11] <nicknick> Que va?
[03:11] <L551> I need it to work though. I'm out $80 if it doesn't. Googling comes back with nothing
[03:12] <soreau> L551: What is the model number?
[03:12] <L551> MG3120
[03:12] <djthree> hola
[03:12] <djthree> ok, todo bien
[03:12] <CreativeGuy> bazhang: Any links to current documentation on best practices for securing a LAMP server?
[03:12] <irvan-rpla> haduh aku ramudeng iki do ngomong opo
[03:14] <soreau> L551: yea it doesn't look too promising
[03:14] <NitroTiger> Erpo?
[03:14] <L551> I need it to work though. Printer was just delievered, I need to print for tomorrow. All machines here run linux.
[03:15] <CreativeGuy> Anyone have any links to good current documentation for securing a LAMP server?
[03:15] <soreau> L551: Maybe try ##linux? I'm not really sure what else to tell you. If it's a brand new model, the linux drivers may not have been written yet
[03:16] <alaa> hi everybody i want to  change from xubuntu to unity
[03:16] <alaa> ?
[03:16] <soreau> L551: If you purchased this printer knowing it needed to run on linux, maybe you should have researched it beforehand
[03:16] <soreau> alaa: I don't think you do ;)
[03:17]  * soreau is switching to xubuntu from gnome
[03:18] <urfr332gO> alaa, you installed xubuntu to begin with?
[03:18] <alaa> how can i convert from xubuntu to unity ?
[03:19] <godofwar> does anyone know how ubuntu 11.10 can remember my running applications when restarting or shutting down my computer?
[03:19] <alaa> yep, I've installed xubuntu, and I wanna change it to unity ..
[03:20] <zykotick9> alaa: you could install ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[03:20] <urfr332gO> alaa, ^^^^ and or remove xubuntu as well if you want at some point. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[03:27] <Varq> Well, I guess erpo disappeared. So can anyone help me install this version of Blender from http://graphicall.org/832?
[03:29] <philipballew_> Should a Ubuntu laptop mute of hibernation/suspend by default?
[03:33] <nicknick> How can I get this annoying low battery warning to stop popping up on my laptop? It indicates I only have ~45 min left with 100% charged battery (which is very wrong. it's about 5 hrs.). It is very irritating. I'm running 11.10. Any suggestions please?
[03:34] <Dark|Code> http://indonesiandefacer.org/mirror/2012/02/zuienkaruizawa.html
[03:34] <Dark|Code> ?echo\
[03:35] <urfr332gO> nicknick, have you actually gotten 5 hours use in ubuntu?
[03:36] <nicknick> Not using it heavily. I've gotten about ~2.5, but I just wanna get rid of this annoying warning
[03:37] <brianp1992> what is the KDE desktop?
[03:37] <StevenX> Hi everyone. I just upgraded my ubuntu to 11.10.
[03:37] <StevenX> and now my nxserver is not working
[03:38] <StevenX> although my ssh server is
[03:38] <nicknick> brian
[03:39] <nicknick> It's an alternative desktop environment to gnome
[03:39] <nicknick> It has a somewhat more windows-like feel
[03:40] <brianp1992> nicknick, dose it use alot of resorces?
[03:41] <nicknick> As far as I know it's about comprable to Gnome in that aspect
[03:41] <nicknick> If you're looking for a less resource heavy desktop environment there's fluxbox or xfce and several others
[03:41] <brianp1992> nicknick, do you use it?
[03:42] <brianp1992> yes im useing xubuntu right now
[03:42] <brianp1992> nicknick, yes im useing xubuntu right now
[03:42] <pengw> howdy everyone
[03:42] <Guest13279> yes, X server, X client, and Windowmaker would be a great start.
[03:42] <beckiebest122> How can I set Windows to boot by default in GRUB? 10.10
[03:43] <pengw> who know if i want to view EAX EBX ECX... what should I do with linux.
[03:43] <nicknick> I don't and I haven't since before Hardy Heron, but I have used it before. I'm not sure how it has changed over the years though. I was plenty more buggy than gnome when I left it. That's actually why I stopped using it
[03:44] <brianp1992> nicknick, ahh okay well ill keep asking around before i jump into it then
[03:45] <nicknick> Why not go ahead and get it and try it out for yourself? you can keep your xfce desktop manager and choose which one to use at login. If you don't like KDE, then you don't have to use it and can uninstall it. If you do like it, you can keep both and switch back and forth or if you want, uninstall xfce. There's no better way to decide if you like it than to jump right in and start using it
[03:45] <travis69420> ubuntu question for everyone... I am currently using ubuntu as my router and i am using IPTables as my firewall (this is Ubuntu server, so no GUI).  I am trying to get my box set up to accept ssh from outsde my LAN (WAN port) my WAN port is eth0
[03:46] <travis69420> i have ssh server running on port 54321
[03:46] <intok> can anyone recommend a NeoGeo emulator that actually works unlike Mednafen? Seems none of the emulators in the official Ubuntu repos works
[03:46] <travis69420> how do i set up iptables to accept all incoming connections on port 54321
[03:46] <travis69420> but to the local host
[03:47] <pjman> I'm doing some testing that requires me to change the kernel boot options. After booting I want to double check that used the correct options. What command do I use to list the current kernel options in use?
[03:49] <Jordan_U> pjman: cat /proc/cmdline
[03:49] <zykotick9> intok: mame is probably the best neogeo emulator out there, gngeo is ok to (and supports the home console like options)
[03:49] <pjman> Jordan_U: Thank you!
[03:50] <Jordan_U> pjman: You're welcome :)
[03:50] <travis69420> i did try the #IPTables channel but no one seems to be awake :-(
[03:51] <intok> zykotick9 the mame version in the repos doesn't work, and GnGeo is a long dead project
[03:51] <nicknick> It seems that no one with advanced knowledge is really on this channel right now either
[03:51] <zykotick9> intok: if you claim both mame and mednafen "don't work" perhaps they're not the issue.  good luck.
[03:52] <revilodraw> hello. when istalling xp in a virtual machine using virtualbox, which filesystem should i use - ntfs or fat?
[03:52] <travis69420> NTFS revilodraw
[03:52] <travis69420> how large is your drive?
[03:52] <revilodraw> travis69420: 30gb
[03:53] <brianp1992> nicknick, ahh okay well ill guess ill give it a try
[03:53] <travis69420> eh i'd just use NTFS revilodraw
[03:53] <nicknick> do you know how to get it?
[03:53] <revilodraw> travis69420: thank you
[03:54] <travis69420> better performance... I really only use FAT nowadays for Flash drives, as FAT is the most universal filesystem for all OSes (all can pretty much read and write without adding anything)
[03:55] <intok> zykotick9 mednafen launches and loads the rom, but gets stuck in a constant loop of configuring keys, the version of mame in the repos launches, but crashes when you do anything, I can't even get it to load a bios or a rom
[03:55] <fully_human> Hello, trying to update time with ntpdate; however, whichever server I use I get the error: 28 Feb 11:55:11 ntpdate[5750]: no server suitable for synchronization found.
[03:56] <intok> zykotick9 I've had the same kind of issues with bsnes and zsnes, neither of those runs either, zsnes crashes silently and bsnes launches, doesn't load a rom and doesn't do anything till manually killed
[03:56] <zykotick9> intok: well, sdlmame (if available in ubuntu) is a big improvement over xmame -- but neither is "easy" to setup.
[03:56] <zykotick9> intok: are you using ati graphics by chance?
[03:56] <physically_fit> any DJ here?, i have a question
[03:57] <intok> zykotick9 sdlmame is what I've got, nope, Nvidia Geforce 6200 NV44a core
[03:58] <fully_human> Anyone know why I can't connect to ANY time server?
[03:59] <fully_human> It's very frustrating: I can't do anything on the net except surf the web (whithout a proxy).
[04:00] <NitroTiger> Is here Eunuch specialist?
[04:01] <NitroTiger> Is here wubi specialist? Sorry I made mistake..
[04:02] <brian1992> nicknick, whats the apt-get for the kde?
[04:02] <travis69420> none of us are specialists in anything lol
[04:03] <nicknick> sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[04:03] <Varq> I'm new to Ubuntu and I don't really know what I'm doing. Does anyone know how to install this version of Blender? http://graphicall.org/832
[04:03] <zykotick9> nicknick: kubuntu-desktop you mean?
[04:03] <NitroTiger> :)
[04:04] <travis69420> varq: i think it may be in synaptics package manager
[04:04] <nicknick> yes that's right. my bad
[04:04] <fully_human> Varq: Usually with blender, just extract it and run the executable in the directory.
[04:04] <travis69420> isnt it?
[04:04] <nicknick> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:04] <Ady> how i open port pls command?
[04:04] <Varq> fully_human: I double clicked on it, and nothing happened. :/
[04:05] <fully_human> Why is it that I can't connect to any time server?  I run sudo ntpdate -q ntp.ubuntu.com, and get the error: no server suitable for synchronization found
[04:05] <travis69420> ady what do u mean?
[04:05] <fully_human> Varq: Then you may not have python or OpenGL installed.
[04:05] <travis69420> varq: did u check the synaptic package manager i think it's in there
[04:05] <travis69420> you dont need to use their site
[04:05] <Ady> travis69420, i mean how i open port utw from console
[04:06] <travis69420> ummm utw?
[04:06] <travis69420> firewall ports i assume you mean ady?
[04:06] <Ady> travis69420, y
[04:06] <travis69420> u need to be alot more specific
[04:06] <travis69420> utw and port means nothing
[04:06] <Ady> travis69420, y sry i newbie
[04:06] <travis69420> what are you trying to do ady?
[04:07] <travis69420> start from the begining
[04:07] <Ady> travis69420, open my game server ports
[04:07] <Varq> travis69420: I'm on Windows right now, so I'm going to have to restart and check. I'll be back in a bit.
[04:07] <travis69420> ady that's controlled by your router
[04:07] <travis69420> i assume you are on a home network ady?
[04:07] <Ady> travis69420, rooter alredy open
[04:08] <travis69420> huh?
[04:08] <Ady> travis69420, yes home
[04:08] <travis69420> wht do u mean router is already open?
[04:08] <travis69420> what kind of router do you have?
[04:08] <Ady> already configurated
[04:08] <brian1992> well it would seem ill be waiting for 30 minues while my kubunt-desktop downoads
[04:08] <Ady> speedport
[04:08] <travis69420> so u already configured that in the router?
[04:09] <Ady> yes
[04:09] <travis69420> well then there shouldnt be a problem
[04:09] <travis69420> i dont think
[04:09] <Ady> my ubuntu ports ? i think that i cant connect to game...
[04:10] <travis69420> ummm well i dunno that ubuntu has a firewall application
[04:10] <Ubuntunub> iptables?
[04:10] <travis69420> so if u opened it up on the router and forwarded it to the corect machine
[04:11] <travis69420> well yes but doesnt he have to setup iptables
[04:11] <travis69420> i thought by default ubuntu just leaves the ports open
[04:11] <Ubuntunub> Believe so.  Think it's empty of rules by detault.
[04:11] <travis69420> could be wrong tho
[04:11] <Ubuntunub> *default
[04:11] <Ady> <newbie
[04:11] <NitroTiger> How to boot wubi to safe graphics mode
[04:11] <travis69420> oh great... i dunno if ubuntu has a firewal gui dores it
[04:11] <travis69420> does it*
[04:11] <travis69420> we're discussing ady...
[04:11] <Ady> how i check?
[04:12] <Ady> open ports?
[04:12] <travis69420> ady, trying to find out the best way
[04:12] <travis69420> give us a min to discuss the issue
[04:12] <Ady> travis69420,  good
[04:12] <travis69420> more like the easiest way
[04:12] <Ady> travis69420,  will be gr8
[04:13] <Ubuntunub> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[04:13] <Ady> Ubuntunub, ty
[04:13] <travis69420> ooo thans ubuntunub
[04:13] <travis69420> jst found that myself
[04:13] <travis69420> never used ufw before
[04:14] <travis69420> lol i'm on ubuntu server
[04:14] <Ubuntunub> Same.  Never used the ufw -- just fumbled through iptables, lol.
[04:14] <underground_> Who's speack french
[04:14] <underground_> ?
[04:14] <Jordan_U> !fr | underground_
[04:14] <travis69420> yea i tend to use iptables from within webmin on ubuntu server
[04:14] <underground_> i need help with my armitage
[04:15] <scottj> is there a gui tool for creating xmodmap lines? like pick a key and pick what key you want it mapped to and it outputs the right code/syntax?
[04:16] <Ubuntunub> Anyone familiar with using cron as a automated backup tool?  Just needing to copy the folder content from one one dir to another dir -- but I want to make sure that if the source directory is empty it doesn't overwrite what might already be in the backup dir.  Hope that makes sense.
[04:17] <zykotick9> Ubuntunub: you should check out rsync
[04:17] <chris_8> Hey room: Can someone help me add trash icon to taskbar for GNOME running on Ubuntu 11.10? I looked online to no avail sadface
[04:17] <underground_> back
[04:18] <underground_> toc toc
[04:18] <Ubuntunub> zykotick9, that's what I was planning, but then someone informed me that if the source dir is blank it might overwrite the backup directory to be empty as well.  The source is a ramdisk, so it might very well be empty when the cron runs.
[04:19] <Ubuntunub> So would a standard cp command be better?
[04:19] <zykotick9> Ubuntunub: just avoid the --delete stuff and you "should" be ok
[04:19] <chris_8> Right-click/add to panel doesn't work because "Trash" doesn't appear on the list of things to add
[04:19] <Ubuntunub> zykotick9:  Awesome.  I'll go give it a try.  :)  Thanks!
[04:20] <travis69420> anyone here recommend an opendns update client for ubuntu?
[04:20] <chris_8> Anyone running GNOME with 11.10? How to get trash icon on taskbar?
[04:21] <intok> zykotick9 I take it you had no luck either? I did find a ppa for SNES9x which works for SNES, but that still does nothing for the lack of NeoGeo emulation
[04:22] <Varq>  All right, I'm back. Now what do I do about this Synaptics Package thing, travis69420?
[04:22] <zykotick9> intok: so long as your on 32bit zsnes is certainy my favourite snes emulator.  For neo-geo I think sdlmame is probably one of the best options.  good luck.
[04:23] <xangua> chris_8: doesn't unity has a trash icon in the launcher?
[04:23] <chris_8> Xangua: maybe, I only used unity for a few minutes before DLing GNOME interface...
[04:24] <chris_8> and I'm staying with GNOME, trash icon or not
[04:24] <chris_8> I can bring up the Add to Panel window np but Trash isn't on it :/
[04:24] <intok> zykotick9 yeah I'm on 32 bit, but as I said, zsnes instantly crashes and bsnes launches but doesn't display anything, just runs invisibly eating resources silently till it's manually killed
[04:25] <zykotick9> intok: well, i don't run ubuntu - so can't really comment on stability issues on your distro
[04:26] <intok> zykotick9 mint? debian?
[04:26] <zykotick9> intok: doesn't matter ;)  it's ot.  Not mint for sure.
[04:27] <travis69420> varq: did u look in the package manager for blender?
[04:28] <avy> is there a way i can change the settings on the dash sidebar in  11.10?
[04:28] <Varq> travis69420: I did a search, and all I could find was Blender 2.58, which isn't what I'm looking for.
[04:28] <urfr332gO> avy, settings?
[04:29] <travis69420> ok so guess we'll have to use the one on blenders site then varq, i just wasnt sure if it was in the package manager which would save us steps
[04:30] <avy> i want it to be like it was in 11.4 where i have to touch the top left cornerto bring it up instead of touching any part of the left hand side
[04:30] <urfr332gO> avy, look in ccsm.
[04:32] <urfr332gO> avy, unity is a plugin there if anyc hnages can be made it would be there short of a hack.
[04:35] <Varq> Is there any reason I just can't use the files from http://graphicall.org/832 to install blender?
[04:36] <travis69420> varq give me one minute
[04:36] <travis69420> sorry working on many things
[04:36] <CFHowlett> Varq   as opposed to getting it from a known and trusted source?  No, go ahead.
[04:37] <Varq> Oh, dang it. It opened now. I guess I'm fine. It didn't open before. :/
[04:37] <travis69420> varq: u need 64-bit or 32-bit Blender?
[04:37] <travis69420> oh
[04:37] <travis69420> nvm then
[04:37] <travis69420> all that work for nothing
[04:37] <Varq> I'm sorry.
[04:38] <avy> damn that sucks im 100% sure there was an option that let you change basic settings in 11.4
[04:38] <avy> thanks for the help
[04:38] <fachex> Help, help!  :) I just reinstalled windows 7 in my laptop and wanted to install Ubuntu but now it would not boot any linux distro, the screen will go blank, finally I just got an error: Found something at drive = 91, erro 80, AX = 4283, drive 91
[04:38] <CFHowlett> fachex   does windows boot?
[04:39] <fachex> yes
[04:39] <fachex> I had no problem booting before
[04:39] <CFHowlett> fachex   what's your ubuntu installation media?  usb/cd??
[04:39] <fachex> any other linux distro
[04:39] <fachex> CD
[04:39] <fachex> but I am trying mint, PCLOS and all of them get stuck
[04:39] <CFHowlett> fachex   that look like a DRIVE fail message to me ...
[04:40] <fachex> it is like this installation of Win7 Ultimate did something to the drive
[04:40] <CFHowlett> fachex   consider trying a USB installation
[04:40] <fachex> it does look like that but I don't think so
[04:40] <fachex> I guess I will do that
[04:40] <CFHowlett> fachex   normally media can't do much to a drive, but I find that suspicious...
[04:40] <fachex> but I wanted to install a version of Linux Commodore 64 Vision distro
[04:40] <chipotle> hi, how do i configure my receiver on ubuntu? do i run amixer with pulseaudio?
[04:40] <CFHowlett> fachex   virtualbox is an option...
[04:40] <fachex> and that is on DVD
[04:41] <chipotle> my receiver has 5 channels/speakers that i want to configure... it is connected via hdmi
[04:41] <fachex> well, Linux will be my primary OS
[04:41] <fachex> I need some windows for work
[04:41] <CFHowlett> fachex   try usb.  If it STILL fails, you're iso is the problem.
[04:41] <fachex> I don't think my ISO is the problem
[04:41] <fachex> i tried several
[04:42] <fachex> and some of them used to work before
[04:42] <fachex> I don{t think is a drive problem bcz I am trying to run liveCD
[04:42] <fachex> so HDD should not matter
[04:42] <CFHowlett> fachex   if the optical drive won't boot, there's a problem with that...
[04:43] <fachex> it does boot windows thou
[04:43] <nathan28> CFHowlett: if the optical drive won't boot, it might not be in the bios boot list in the right order
[04:43] <chipotle> how do i configure pulseaudio?
[04:43] <tim167> hi,I'm trying to find files that contain a word, using grep, but grep doesn't seem to do anything; i do grep -R "word" ./ and it finishes immediately with no results
[04:43] <CFHowlett> nathan28   see the error msg, but you're right.
[04:43] <fachex> it does boot other things like MacOS
[04:44] <fachex> for Intel
[04:44] <fachex> but no Linux distro
[04:44] <CFHowlett> fachex   this is on a mac?
[04:44] <fachex> very weird
[04:44] <eQuiNoX__> is there an ubuntu application that can help monitor any kind of application crashes and log that?
[04:44] <fachex> no, PC
[04:45] <travis69420> how can i kill a tty session
[04:45] <aeon-ltd> eQuiNoX__: launch something from a terminal
[04:45] <urgodfather> does anyone in here use xbmc???
[04:45] <tim167> how can I get grep to work for finding a word inside files, in a subdirectory ?
[04:45] <travis69420> i have my useraccount logged on from two locations and i want to kill one
[04:45] <fachex> I have Hiron Boot CD on my usb and it did work
[04:45] <eQuiNoX__> aeon-ltd: yes, thats how im doing it - so I redirect the stderr stream to a file, thats what you mean?
[04:46] <fachex> let me try hiron on CD
[04:46] <cal_> how do i change the console video mode in ubuntu 11.10?
[04:46] <aeon-ltd> eQuiNoX__: it logs/prints messages to the terminal anyway
[04:46] <aeon-ltd> urgodfather: they do in #xbmc
[04:47] <eQuiNoX__> aeon-ltd: uh, im running a script and chances are that i'll be away when it runs so...
[04:47] <magn3ts> How on *EARTH* do I get Ubuntu/gnome-shell to forget a wifi network
[04:47] <urgodfather> aeon-ltd, i'm in there... watched you enter and leave lol
[04:47] <magn3ts> It always tries to connect to the registration netwokr no matter what I do.
[04:47] <aeon-ltd> urgodfather: heh :)
[04:47] <urgodfather> aeon-ltd... no one is answering
[04:49] <chipotle> how do i edit my pulseaudio config so it can find my a/v receiver?
[04:52] <zykotick9> cal_: it's configured through grub these days GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 type thing, there is also some KEEP option you might need?  might be more challenging if you use nvidia/ati proprietary drivers
[04:53] <mrmcgibby2> Just logged out and back in, now unity is gone and I've got some interface I don't recognize with with "Activities" in the top left corner
[04:54] <mrmcgibby2> What is this?
[04:55] <cal_> zykotick9: that doesn't seem to be entirely true. I can see the system booting, starting up all the processes, until *right before* i get a login prompt. At that point the screen goes garbled. So it seems to be setting it to a video mode my card doesn't handle right at the end.
[04:55] <armence_> I need to set some environment variables for my window manager where can I set those? Is .xinitrc the right place?
[04:55] <cal_> zykotick9: i've messed with grub video settings, that changes video mode way before that.
[04:56] <zykotick9> cal_: look for that KEEP option
[04:56] <Guest73258> if anybody knows any opensource projects that need help, and would be easy to contribute to, I would love them forever
[04:56] <DeltaWhy> I'm looking for a way to block traffic to certain sites at certain times of day. Does anyone know of such a program?
[04:56] <cal_> zykotick9: for /etc/default/grub?
[04:57] <dax> mrmcgibby2: sounds like gnome shell
[04:57] <zykotick9> cal_: that's to edit it yes, but i mean you'll probably have to search online for that actual option (i don't think it's there by default)
[04:57] <mrmcgibby2> how do I get unity back?
[04:57] <cal_> " Set to .text. to force the Linux kernel to boot in normal text mode, .keep. to preserve the graphics mode set using .GRUB_GFXMODE. "
[04:57] <cal_> zykotick9 : that looks like the ticket, found it in the help. thanks!
[04:58] <zykotick9> cal_: there you go!
[04:58] <cal_> zykotick9: i wonder what it is taking over the video mode from grub though?
[04:58] <Guest17589> any PHP, C++, or python projects looking to take on a newbie, anyone know? One without 10000 lines of convoluted code
[04:59] <zykotick9> cal_: i'm not sure... this kms stuff is rather foggy in my understanding
[04:59] <thevaliantx> looking for a general linux channel where i can chat about various desktops for older computers.  for some reason i can't write in #linux or #linuxbeginner :/
[05:00] <zykotick9> !register | thevaliantx
[05:00] <cal_> zykotick9: nowadays even grub is getting too layered and abstracted... ugh... just one file menu.lst was so much easier.
[05:01] <urgodfather> does anyone in here use xbmc, boxee, or anything of the sort?
[05:01] <zykotick9> cal_: oh, i like grub2 way more then grub-legacy myself - very automatic (once you get your head around some of the weird stuff ;)
[05:01] <Guest17589> I use xbmc
[05:01] <cal_> bah ;)
[05:01] <thevaliantx> zykotick9, would the nickname i have now already be registered since i'm using it?
[05:01] <Guest92327> hi ,I'm searching a room , talking about ARM . can you help me?
[05:01] <urgodfather> guest17589 do u use navi-x too?
[05:01] <zykotick9> thevaliantx: i don't know - did you identify when you joined freenode?
[05:01] <Nach0z> Never got my head around why grub2 seems to use bash scripts rather than just straight configs for just about all the default stuff. I'm sure there's a very good reason, I just kinda wish it was ... easier to configure XD
[05:02] <thevaliantx> zykotick9, i just started up xchat.  it automatically gave me this nickname.
[05:02] <zykotick9> thevaliantx: try #freenode for issues about registering/joining channels though
[05:02] <thevaliantx> zykotick9, ok, thanks.
[05:02] <zykotick9> thevaliantx: then, no - it's not registered nick
[05:03] <zykotick9> Nach0z: all has to do with the automajic nature of grub2 ;)
[05:03] <Nach0z> yeah, that's great and all, but unfortunately sometimes grub2 don't do what I want it to do :P
[05:03] <cal_> zykotick9: how about disabling the console screensaver is that in grub too?
[05:03] <Nach0z> like, I don't want "quiet splash", i just want splash. gotta go in and edit all the 20_linux or whatever it is to find that line and whatnot
[05:04] <zykotick9> cal_: screen blanking can be a couple of different thing - sorry, I haven't had to "really" deal with that issue.  good luck.
[05:05] <zykotick9> Nach0z: poor example - "quiet splash" is in /etc/default/grub ;)
[05:06] <Nach0z> oh. well. hell. gonna go look for that right now
[05:06] <Nach0z> either way >_>
[05:06] <zykotick9> Nach0z: i still get you point
[05:07] <Nach0z> yeah. lol. grub2 is cool and all though
[05:07] <Nach0z> supergrub2disk is the best invention ever, btw
[05:07] <Nach0z> saved my arse on a dozen different occasions
[05:07] <terr_> does anyone know if Kubuntu provides an  option to partition the hdd?
[05:07] <CFHowlett> terr_   yes
[05:07] <Random832>  why does the password prompt warn you num lock is on
[05:08] <Random832> it should warn you if it's off, if anything
[05:08] <Nach0z> Random832: because of laptop keyboards
[05:08] <Random832> oh
[05:08] <Nach0z> if you have nunm lock on on a laptop keyboard the whole right side of the keyboard is moot
[05:08] <Random832> can i turn off that setting, i have a full keypad
[05:08] <Nach0z> probably not.
[05:09] <cal_> zykotick9: bah. 'keep' didn't work. something is still taking over.
[05:09] <Ben64> what is a very light WM i can use on my server
[05:09] <zykotick9> cal_: sorry don't know then?
[05:09] <cal_> GRR. I can see stuff fine as the processes start up.
[05:09] <Ben64> apt-get install metacity wants me to install 256MB of stuff
[05:09] <Nach0z> that's a lotta dependencies
[05:10] <zykotick9> Ben64: any of the *boxs are pretty light (openbox, fluxbox, etc)
[05:10] <Ben64> cool, i'll check em out
[05:10] <terr_> CFHowlett: I didn't see an option.... I'm debating about installing debian instead of kubuntu but I've heard so many good things about Ubuntu.  If  there is an option I missed it.  Are the install steps documented?     I'm building a new machine so I can easily restart the process.
[05:10] <cal_> zykotick9; right now my evil eye is on /etc/init.d/setvtrgb.
[05:11] <CFHowlett> terr_   when you boot up the installer will ask if you want to use some or all of the hdd ...
[05:11] <zykotick9> cal_: i have no idea what that even is... hope you find the answer.
[05:11] <terr_> ...and I have a major firefox problem.  It will NOT reload.  I jsut restarted X so this means its a Javascript issue in all likelihood.
[05:11] <terr_> CFHowlett: I said all
[05:11] <CFHowlett> terr_   for less user friendly but more controlled steps, use the alternate install method
[05:11] <Nach0z> terr_: kill firefox-bin ?
[05:11] <Nach0z> kill ALL the processes :D
[05:12] <terr_> CFHowlett: give me a few moments to revert firefox's journel
[05:12] <CFHowlett> terr_   no worries
[05:12] <zykotick9> terr_: if you want an experience REALLY close to debian, but still using Ubuntu - try the mini iso
[05:13] <terr_> CFHowlett: should in in .mozilla somewhere...
[05:13] <scientes> zykotick9, wuuuut
[05:13] <scientes> thats horrible
[05:13] <scientes> ubuntu != debian
[05:13] <Nach0z> lol
[05:13] <scientes> for example debian has systemd available in the repos
[05:13] <terr_> zykotick9: I'm not really interested in experiance.  I'll set up VM's for that.
[05:14] <scientes> a big place debian lags IMHO is that they....well no, they have an installable live CD now
[05:14] <Canadian1296> I want to set up a VPN server on my server, so I can have a secure tunnel into my network. What package do I need?
[05:14] <urfr332gO> !ot | scientes
[05:14] <zykotick9> scientes: are you calling the mini iso horrible?  i was impressed with ubuntu for the first time in a long time the other day installing mini - it's got close to 40 different install options
[05:15] <scientes> zykotick9, ooooh, I though you meant the ubuntu version of that, the alternate installer
[05:15] <scientes> cause ubuntu also has the "debian-installer" as a install method
[05:16] <zykotick9> scientes: mini is the debian netinstall but with ubuntu packages... moving on.
[05:16] <scientes> zykotick9, oh, well thats not debian
[05:17] <scientes> so don't say it is
[05:17] <scientes> thats what my first point was about
[05:17] <zykotick9> scientes: trust me - i didn't...
[05:17] <scientes> yes i know, i read " REALLY close to debian" as mocking debian
[05:17] <scientes> sorry
[05:18] <Canadian1296> Anyone?
[05:18] <T_H_X> Canadian1296: openvpn
[05:19] <nathan28> Canadian1296: have you tried searching with apt or in synaptic?
[05:19] <Canadian1296> T_H_X: Does it support L2TP? And can I use a password instead of keys?
[05:19] <nathan28> btw why does ubuntu name its pkg manager GUI after the touchpad?
[05:20] <zykotick9> nathan28: you have a touchpad called "ubuntu software center" that's odd
[05:20] <Jordan_U> nathan28: Synaptic != Synaptics
[05:21] <nathan28> Jordan_U: it's close enough to be confusing
[05:21] <macele> Synaptics != Semantics
[05:22] <Nach0z> lol
[05:22] <T_H_X> Canadian1296: dunno, support password though .. google it
[05:24] <terr_> CFHowlett: I've goit ff loading... hopefully it will laod now.  are the options during install documented?
[05:24] <CFHowlett> terr_   you're using the graphic installer?
[05:24] <nagarjuna> hi guys, i'm facing a problem. Last night i didnt shutdown my system properly. Morning when i was tried to open it is stuck at the login prompt. I'm unable to get the GUI desktop, but i'm able to login via cml-terminal
[05:24] <terr_> CFHowlett: I don't think so... been a few months.
[05:25] <jessie> how to create  bootable usb
[05:25] <CFHowlett> terr_   sorry, I must have confused myself - quickly remind me of what we're dealing with please
[05:25] <nagarjuna> can anyone give me a solution.
[05:25] <nathan28> jessie: unetbootin or dd an image that is usb-ootable
[05:25] <CFHowlett> jessie   System>Administration>Startup Disk Creator
[05:25] <Jordan_U> jessie: For installation or for use as a normal installed system?
[05:25] <terr_> CFHowlett: I ddo not recall being given the option to partition the disk.  I told it to just use reasonable defaults nad it created one parition:  /
[05:26] <y0om4> what is a good torrent downloader?
[05:26] <nathan28> terr_: that's why you never trust a "reasonable default"
[05:26] <jessie> Jordan_U:for installation of 11.10 ubuntu
[05:26] <Jordan_U> jessie: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[05:27] <CFHowlett> terr_   kubuntu installation tutorial
[05:27] <CFHowlett> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/install_kubuntu_2.html#partitioning
[05:27] <Canadian1296> T_H_X: Okay, I googled it and all I could find was "openvpn vs l2tp"... Is there a VPN server similar to openvpn that supports L2TP?
[05:27] <magn3ts> I would just like to say it's beyond absurd that there is no way to get Rhythmbox to not exit like a normal application on every other desktop platform ever in existence ever.
[05:27] <terr_> CFHowlett: ff is not fully laoded yet.
[05:27] <magn3ts> especially when it happens when I'm not in Unity for my DM.
[05:27] <y0om4> what torrent program do you guys use?
[05:27] <terr_> CFHowlett: the installers should advise what they are doing.
[05:28] <CFHowlett> terr see this http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/install_kubuntu_2.html#partitioning
[05:28] <zykotick9> y0om4: this isn't a good place to poll.  you could try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:28] <terr_> CFHowlett: I have to wait for ff
[05:28] <CFHowlett> terr_   you need to select MANUAL partition to get the options.
[05:28] <terr_> Its loading about 50 pages with tabs added.
[05:28] <terr_> CFHowlett: that is jsut DUMB
[05:29] <tazjin> y0om4: Transmission && qbittorrent
[05:29] <macele> Canadian1296: I think openvpn supports passwords
[05:29] <jessie> Jordan_u:i have already downloaded n saved in usb. As my writter has been corrupted i need to install thru usb so i need to create bootable tel em how
[05:29] <terr_> CFHowlett: ff just died again!
[05:29] <CFHowlett> terr_   50 tabs?  Seriously?
[05:29] <jessie> nathan28:what image wr i will get it
[05:29] <Jordan_U> jessie: The page I linked to gives detailed instructions for createing a bootable Ubuntu USB. Where are you getting stuck?
[05:30] <T_H_X> Canadian1296: try this one http://strongvpn.com/setup_ubuntu_11.10_l2tp.shtml
[05:30] <CFHowlett> terr_   has ffox failed multiple times?
[05:30] <jessie> Jordan_U: fine i will check it out
[05:30] <Canadian1296> macele: Okay, but I need to connect to the VPN server with L2TP or PPTP.
[05:30] <ponrajuganesh> How to recursivly assign a 777 to all the driectories and subdirectories?
[05:30] <T_H_X> openvpn doesnt support l2tp
[05:30] <nathan28> ponrajuganesh: why?
[05:31] <macele> Canadian1296: Are you connecting from a phone?
[05:31] <ponrajuganesh> nathan28 needed that?
[05:31] <nathan28> you need rwx on the whole disk?
[05:31] <nathan28> for all users?
[05:31] <terr_> CFHowlett: ya!  abouyt the 3rd or 4th time.  I must have hit a web page which it cannot digest and likely its a javascript issue or some jerk is trying to do something bad
[05:31] <Canadian1296> macele: Yes. It's just so I can have an ip and access services on my network from other networks.
[05:31] <ponrajuganesh> yup I am working on the remote machine nathan28
[05:32] <zykotick9> ponrajuganesh: without even knowing what your doing - i can say fairly confidently, that you're doing something wrong.
[05:32] <ponrajuganesh> there wll get it only as root, so to automate the writing process i need that nathan28
[05:32] <T_H_X> Canadian1296: use ssh and port forward
[05:32] <macele> Canadian1296: Android or iPhone?
[05:32] <terr_> CFHowlett: A few days back I had to manually blow away the sessionstore because even when I deleted certain web pages... teh session store still ahd them.  That store is suppose to be updated each time you visit or blow away a URL
[05:33] <urgodfather> cfhowlett, thans for the wiwfi help last night
[05:33] <nathan28> ponrajuganesh: chmod -R 777 /
[05:33] <jessie> Jordan_U:thanks i got it
[05:33] <Canadian1296> Canadian1296: iPhone
[05:33] <Jordan_U> ponrajuganesh: Do *NOT* run that command.
[05:33] <terr_> CFHowlett: I tend to work on a lot of things at a time and I do have about 50 pages open.  then some have 5-10 tabs
[05:33] <CFHowlett> urgodfather   no problem.  glad we got you fired up.
[05:33] <Flannel> ponrajuganesh: You really don't want that.
[05:33] <CFHowlett> terr_   ffox doesn't really like that ...
[05:33] <zykotick9> nathan28: if ponrajuganesh is using / to boot from - you probably just broke that install
[05:34] <terr_> CFHowlett: maybe that is why its dying.
[05:34] <Flannel> ponrajuganesh: If you really want to give that sort of access use +rwX instead.
[05:34] <Jordan_U> nathan28: 1: I think you've misinterpreted what ponrajuganesh wants, and 2: Even if that's what they think they want it's a terrible idea and will break their install. Please be more careful in the future.
[05:34] <CFHowlett> terr_   yes indeedy
[05:34] <terr_> CFHowlett: old version of ff too!  really old.  On Debian Sarge.
[05:34] <urgodfather> cfhowlett, i wish someone in here had a htpc that might be able to help
[05:34] <macele> Canadian1296: check this out... http://www.guizmovpn.com/
[05:34] <CFHowlett> urgodfather   ask on the ubuntu forums as well.  SOMEONE does.
[05:35] <terr_> urgodfather: what is an htpc?
[05:35] <nathan28> Jordan_U: hey, it's his machine
[05:35] <zykotick9> terr_: Home Theater PC
[05:35] <CFHowlett> terr_   home theater pc
[05:36] <terr_> ah... was tyring to talk to a vendor about buying a nettop for that purpose.  However a $35 raspberrypc should also suffice
[05:36] <Jordan_U> nathan28: Part 1 of my statement is important, don't forget it. And we don't give commands which are guaranteed to ruin user's installs here. Period.
[05:36] <terr_> was doiung that this evening and it might be their website that is crashing ff
[05:37] <zykotick9> urgodfather: i use MythTV for my HTPCs - i find the other frontends are quite unstable myself YMMV
[05:38] <macele> urgodfather: xbmc ftw
[05:38] <cal_> zykotick9: i had to add "nomodeset" to the kernel options. something called KMS (kernel mode setting) changes the video framebuffer which is within the kernel.
[05:39] <Canadian1296> macele: It requires jailbroken phone (that isn't an issue, I'd just prefer a server that supports L2TP)
[05:39] <zykotick9> cal_: thanks - i wouldn't have thought of that
[05:39] <terr_> CFHowlett: well... ff is up.  I cpied the session store from feb 24 over top of todays' and now its happy.
[05:39] <fede> Hi, I have a problem with konsole. I can't get it to show more than 2 colors. ¿What could be the problem?
[05:39] <cal_> zykotick9: you would think that is exactly what the "keep" option would be overriding though. oh well.
[05:40] <macele> Canadian1296: try this.. http://blog.riobard.com/2010/04/30/l2tp-over-ipsec-ubuntu
[05:41] <zykotick9> cal_: with the exception of the netbook (intel) that i'm currently typing on, all my systems/VMs require nomodeset - so it's pretty much a default for me.
[05:41] <Canadian1296> macele: I found something that could work (using openswan and xl2tpd)
[05:41] <y0om4> is there a hotkey to go to the dash screen?
[05:41] <cal_> zykotick9: what happends when you leave out that option on them?
[05:42] <macele> Canadian1296: also, there is this: http://strongvpn.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=788
[05:42] <Canadian1296> macele: It appears we found the same thing... :)
[05:42] <zykotick9> cal_: i get a black screen - ie no boot at all
[05:42] <cal_> zykotick9: ahh, okay. hey thanks for your help!
[05:42] <zykotick9> cal_: glad to help
[05:43] <Canadian1296> macele: Thanks for your help, ill give it a go tomorrow :)
[05:43] <macele> Canadian1296: good luck
[05:43] <chipotle> can i use alsa instead of pulseaudio with ubuntu>
[05:44] <chipotle> ?
[05:44] <chipotle> or is that a bad practice?
[05:44] <Canadian1296> macele: Thanks :)
[05:44] <zykotick9> chipotle: if you using gnome/unity - it's probably not a good idea.  Plus you are using ALSA, pulse requires alsa for hardware access (one is not a replacement of the other, pulse replaces esd)
[05:45] <chipotle> zykotick9: :/
[05:45] <chipotle> well, pulse isn't showing a profile for 5.0 surround sound in the ubuntu system prefs
[05:45] <Roasted> Does anybody know of a way to increase Unity's overall font size to be rather huge? I'd like to use Ubuntu with XBMC for my HTPC but if I minimize HTPC to google soemthing I want Unity to be more presentable from 12 ft away from the TV.
[05:45] <terr_> CFHowlett: can I ask your opinon on something?  If I were to write a shell which prompted people for options and verified them ... all Q&A... but not fill in the forms and something which is not at all like say BASH... much easier to program then any GUI... would that be useful for an installer and other system utils?
[05:45] <terr_> channel split
[05:46] <jessie> after installing ubuntu 11.10 whether i need to install vlc or it already contains
[05:46] <chipotle> zykotick9: is there anything i can do?
[05:46] <CFHowlett> terr_   I'm don't code, so I'm not the one to ask.  Sorry.
[05:46] <urfr332gO> jessie, you have to install it.
[05:46] <chipotle> all the searching points to threads with no one helping
[05:46] <zykotick9> chipotle: not that i'm aware of.  but sound issues are not my strong suite.  good luck.
[05:46] <macele> chipotle: As I understand it, pulse uses alsa
[05:46] <terr_> CFHowlett: think of it like your a systems admin.  Instead of being treated like a shgroom it tells you what is going on!
[05:47] <matti_> why is that that i can't correctly pin applications on the unity launcher?  it always resets after i logout.
[05:47] <chipotle> macele: yeah, i get that but lots of people on the net say they solved this by removing pulse and working directly with alsa
[05:47] <chipotle> im trying to set up a htpc and a lack of surround sound is a no-no
[05:47] <zykotick9> chipotle: you'd loose gnome sound if you remove pulse...
[05:47] <CFHowlett> terr_   I've never written a script, have no idea what/where/how such a thing would work.  Sorry, but IDK.
[05:47] <jessie> urfr332g0:thanks
[05:47] <terr_> CFHowlett: the problem as I see it and I'm a programmer is that the framework for a gui takes so much work that once its set up people try to force square pegs into round holes
[05:48] <terr_> CFHowlett: but you've used them.
[05:48] <terr_> CFHowlett: I'll have to flange up a demo... won't be too hard
[05:49] <jessie> what is gnome
[05:49] <terr_> CFHowlett: I'm going to drop the install tonight.
[05:49] <nathan28> jessie: a thing that sits on your lawn
[05:49] <nathan28> jessie: it's a DE
[05:49] <CFHowlett> terr_   good luck.
[05:49] <urgodfather> zykotick9, do u use navi on ur htpc's?
[05:49] <matti_> anybody know how to get the unity launcher on the left to correctly remember applications that should be pinned in the sidebar?
[05:49] <zykotick9> !gnome | jessie
[05:49] <zykotick9> urgodfather: i have no idea what navi is sorry
[05:49] <terr_> jessie: ints an IDE which is different than KDE and others... largely does the same things but some people  prefer one to the other
[05:50] <zykotick9> terr_: not an IDE just a DE
[05:50] <urgodfather> zykotick9 navi-x? its a plug-in
[05:50] <arjun> Apart from tty's. i'm not able to login via GUI login prompt. Can anyone tell , what might be the problem
[05:50] <zykotick9> urgodfather: then i can say NO, never heard of it
[05:50] <matti_> arjun: anything interesting in the log files?
[05:50] <urgodfather> macele do u use xbmc?
[05:51] <urgodfather> should check it out on ur mythbox's
[05:51] <macele> chipotle: Yes, and it will work with xbmc
[05:51] <terr_> zykotick9: what's the distinction?  I'm clearly out of date.
[05:51] <chipotle> macele: what will? i have no sound with xbmc and only stereo sound in my sound prefs
[05:51] <arjun> matti:yes, but unable to understand that.
[05:51] <zykotick9> terr_: IDEs are development environment, while DE is Desktop Environment
[05:51] <chipotle> i want my AVR to have sound passthru from the file to the AVR and then the AVR spit out the 5 channel sound i have
[05:52] <urgodfather> chipotle, i might be able to help
[05:52] <terr_> zykotick9: Brain fart!  Of course.  Like Borland's IDE which I happen to own!
[05:52] <macele> chipotle: My xbmc works with alsa, I installed xubuntu, so no unity or gnome to deal with
[05:52] <chipotle> urgodfather: awesome, well, i don't ahve the profile for digital surround hdmi output
[05:52] <chipotle> urgodfather: only digital stereo hdmi output
[05:52] <matti_> matti: see if there is anything interesting under /var/log/syslog
[05:52] <arjun> matti: one more thing is able to login as root, but no apps is workin glike vlc, thunderbird,firefox
[05:53] <chipotle> my htpc is connected via hdmi to my avr
[05:53] <chipotle> urgodfather: i don't know what to do?
[05:53] <chipotle> macele: oh, that's xfce4?
[05:53] <matti_> arjun: check if there's any interesting errors under /var/log/syslog
[05:53] <CFHowlett> !xfce|chipotle
[05:53] <urgodfather> chipotle, but u do have it working in ubuntu?
[05:54] <chipotle> urgodfather: oh, it looks like i am on linux 3.0.0-12 and the arch wiki says "As of Linux 3.1 multi-channel PCM output through HDMI with a Intel card (Intel Eaglelake, IbexPeak/Ironlake,SandyBridge/CougarPoint and IvyBridge/PantherPoint) is not yet supported. Support for it has been recently added and expected to be available in Linux 3.2. To make it work in Linux 3.1 you need to apply the following patches:"
[05:54] <chipotle> i'm using sandy bridge, so is that why hd audio isn't working?
[05:55] <chipotle> i guess i need to buy a video card to get surround sound to work via hdmi?
[05:55] <chipotle> urgodfather: no, that system pref is in ubuntu, can only get stereo
[05:55] <nathan28> chipotle: you can just wait for the kernel upgrade to get pushed to your repos
[05:55] <chipotle> nathan28: when will that be?
[05:55] <urgodfather> yeah
[05:55] <nathan28> no clue
[05:56] <urgodfather> macele do u use navi-x?
[05:56] <chipotle> well, i don't really want to wait since this is a htpc
[05:56] <chipotle> so i think i'll buy a video card tomorrow
[05:57] <arjun> matti: thanks..
[05:57] <urgodfather> chipotle, sounds like u problem :)
[06:01] <urgodfather> would anyone be willing to test something for me?
[06:02] <urgodfather> i want to know if the problem im experiencing is b/c of my install or if its related to the software
[06:02] <macele> urgodfather: Not sure. My xbmc connects to a serviio server I have running on another machine
[06:03] <urgodfather> macele, would u install the navi-x script for me and tell me if it is working
[06:03] <urgodfather> www.navi-x.org
[06:04] <macele> urgodfather: stand by
[06:04] <urgodfather> download the zip and install in xbmc, all you have to do is go to the add-ons and do from zip
[06:05] <melik> what are some good php forum software
[06:05] <CFHowlett> melik   phpbb
[06:05] <melik> apart from phpbbb
[06:06] <CFHowlett> melik   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_%28PHP%29
[06:06] <Chainer> i've used Simple Machine Forums and it's pretty good
[06:07] <chown_> guys im trying to mount my network partitions at my ubuntu login, i was told to look into the fstab file, and i did some progress, the thing is, i did mounted it all and can acess after the login
[06:07] <chown_> the thing is: i can only create folders/files at the root mount point
[06:08] <chown_> i cant create subfolders
[06:08] <urgodfather> in the meantime, can someone help me figure out how to update the medibuntu updates
[06:09] <jessie> what is KDE
[06:09] <CFHowlett> urgodfather   what's the issue?
[06:09] <Guest39161> ?
[06:09] <urgodfather> updater wont do the updates
[06:09] <urfr332gO> urgodfather, what are you using from medibuntu, in what release=OS
[06:09] <CFHowlett> urgodfather   error messages?
[06:10] <urgodfather> jessie KDE is a lightweight gui/window manager
[06:10] <urgodfather> apport-hooks and 2 others
[06:10] <macele> urgodfather seems to work, although I can't figure out what it does above what xbmc does already
[06:11] <zykotick9> urgodfather: KDE is a lightweight ... -- you MUST be kidding!
[06:11] <urgodfather> macele, click on portal
[06:11] <arjun> Can someone help me figure out how can i know that memory of the graphic card in my system
[06:11] <zykotick9> jessie: KDE is the heaviest DE on gnu/linux - requires the most resources
[06:12] <urgodfather> is it? i thought gnome was
[06:12] <Sterist> anyone know how to use testdisk? im trying to recover my 16gb mem card and it's being detected as 2199gb
[06:12] <zykotick9> urgodfather: not even close - KDE is a memory hog
[06:13] <urgodfather> zykotick9 really?
[06:13] <arjun> ?
[06:13] <urgodfather> i thought gnome had more dependencies than kde
[06:13] <Guest39161> how to install rt3070 network adapter driver?
[06:13] <urgodfather> i know xfce is lighter than both
[06:14] <Sterist> xfce is awesome
[06:14] <macele> urgodfather: it says "cannot open file"
[06:14] <urgodfather> macele, when you click on navi-x portal does it open?
[06:14] <urgodfather> ok
[06:14] <zykotick9> urgodfather: *box, lxde, xfce, gnome, kde (lightest to heaviest)
[06:14] <urgodfather> must be their servers,
[06:14] <urgodfather> what about enlightenment?
[06:15] <Sterist> anyone know how to use testdisk? im trying to recover my 16gb mem card and it's being detected as 2199gb
[06:15] <zykotick9> urgodfather: what about awesomewm?  there are lots of others, i just listed the big ones
[06:16] <urgodfather> zykotick9, true but not as talked about as enlightenment
[06:17] <zykotick9> urgodfather: i can't understand why anyone still talks about enlightenment - it's pretty much been unchanged in 10+ years, not exactly "current"
[06:17] <urgodfather> and the 3 updates i cant get to install through manager are apport hooks for medibuntu, libav codec library, and libav utility library
[06:18] <urgodfather> zykotic9, did not know that
[06:18] <zykotick9> !tab > urgodfather
[06:18] <Canadian1296> What is the best GnuPG GUI for Ubuntu?
[06:19] <urgodfather> zykotick9: thanks for the tip
[06:20] <zykotick9> urgodfather: typing z-y-k-o-t-i-c-k-9 is a huge pain, i only noticed cause you typoed
[06:20] <urgodfather> zykotick9: its not that bad... just when youre eating
[06:21] <zykotick9> urgodfather: z-y-TAB is a LOT easier ;)
[06:21] <urgodfather> zykotick9: indeed
[06:23] <urgodfather> CFHowlett: the 3 updates i cant get to install through manager are apport hooks for medibuntu, libav codec library, and libav utility library
[06:24] <CFHowlett> urgodfather   try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:24] <arjun> hi, can anyone tel me where can i get the drivers for Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset
[06:24] <urgodfather> CFHowlett: the pc DID just do a partial dist upgrade about an hr ago
[06:24] <urgodfather> CFHowlett:  related?
[06:25] <zykotick9> urgodfather: do you mean "partial upgrade"?
[06:25] <CFHowlett> urgodfather   partial upgrade?  yeah, i'd think related.
[06:25] <CFHowlett> arjun   what drivers do you mean?
[06:25] <ye> hi everybody!!!!
[06:25] <zykotick9> urgodfather: NEVER do partial upgrade - that translates to, YOUR SYSTEM IS ABOUT TO BREAK
[06:25] <arjun> Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset
[06:26] <arjun> for ubuntu
[06:26] <urgodfather> CFHowlett: yeah it said partial upgrade
[06:26] <urgodfather> zykotick9: ^^^
[06:26] <arjun> graphic drivers i 'm talking about
[06:26] <CFHowlett> arjun   OK to DO what?  play videos?
[06:26] <zykotick9> urgodfather: ya, NEVER agree to those
[06:26] <urgodfather> first time i ever seen it
[06:26] <arjun> no. For  games
[06:27] <urgodfather> but i have had that problem with those medibuntu files for weeks
[06:27] <CFHowlett> arjun   sudo apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras should be all you need.
[06:27] <rexbutler> Question:  I have Win7 running Ubuntu 10.04 under VirtualBox.  I have share links set up to my C and D drives, but I was wondering if I can access the Ubuntu file system from Win7
[06:28] <iceroot> rexbutler: only with samba, not with vbox
[06:28] <CFHowlett> arjun   I've got the Intel mobile 4 in my Dell - watch videos, play games with no problems.  It is worth making sure you've upgraded to the latest bios...
[06:28] <anonymousinuk> can someone please recomend a decent firewall and or anti-virus?
[06:28] <urgodfather> CFHowlett: the error i was getting was an authentication error... even if i did authenticate
[06:28] <iceroot> anonymousinuk: both are not needed
[06:28] <iceroot> !virus | anonymousinuk
[06:29] <urgodfather> zykotick9: is there a way to fix partial upgrade?
[06:29] <doc-saintly> is it possible to write an ext3 FS header to a disk, and hope it finds file records in the system?
[06:29] <bazhang> !info gufw | anonymousinuk
[06:29] <zykotick9> urgodfather: time machine, if you have one of those
[06:29] <CFHowlett> urgodfather   fix the partial is now your priority...
[06:29] <doc-saintly> or - is fsck capable of retrieving file names / folder strucutres?
[06:29] <iceroot> doc-saintly: no because you also need the superblock
[06:29] <doc-saintly> iceroot: is there a way to scan to see if it's present somewhere?
[06:29] <ye> cls
[06:30] <urgodfather> zykotick9: guess i need to break out the flux capacitor
[06:30] <rexbutler> Okay, next question:  Can I get to the files on a virtual disk image if everything else gets mucked up?
[06:30] <rexbutler> Maybe I'm in the wrong channel...
[06:30] <urgodfather> CFHowlett: how to? system appears to be running fine after a series of boot failures
[06:30] <Canadian1296> rexbutler: Not that im aware of.
[06:31] <anonymousinuk> ok
[06:31] <Canadian1296> rexbutler: I guess you could boot the VM from a live cd (ISO), and then access your files
[06:31] <CFHowlett> rexbutler   save essential files in virtualbox / usb backups
[06:31] <CFHowlett> urgodfather   "series of boot failures" ...
[06:31] <CFHowlett> urgodfather   I did partial upgrade once.  ONCE!
[06:31] <zykotick9> urgodfather: "partial upgrade" is a terrible wording - but it means there are packages that aren't available at this time.  Sorry i don't have any real suggestions - FYI this is where "aptitude safe-upgrade" comes in REAL handy, but ubuntu decided to remove that from default install.
[06:32] <CFHowlett> zykotick9   is there a fix?
[06:32] <anonymousinuk> so is there a tool that i can check to see if my pc has been compromised?
[06:32] <CFHowlett> to partial upgrade
[06:32] <urgodfather> it appears to run fine now
[06:32] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: you mean besides the time machine suggestion?  sorry i don't know of one.
[06:33] <rexbutler> Soon I will get an online backup service
[06:33] <arjun> CFHowlett: i installed that. Should i need to install  anything apart from that
[06:33] <urfr332gO> anonymousinuk, what makes you think it has been?
[06:33] <urgodfather> i think the series of boot failures were related to me not doing a proper reboot
[06:33] <CFHowlett> arjun   that pretty much solved ALL your multimedia driver issues...
[06:33] <aleale97> Hi
[06:34] <arjun> ok
[06:34] <CFHowlett> greetings | aleale97
[06:34] <CFHowlett> aleale97   greetings
[06:34] <aleale97> Thanks CF
[06:35] <urfr332gO> !pm | anonymousinuk
[06:35] <aleale97> Problem with the bot?
[06:35] <rexbutler> I'll have to learn how to use rsync
[06:35] <aleale97> Google can help you! :-)
[06:36] <capecarnation> what package is needed to be installed in order to disable the touchpad on a dell inspiron?
[06:36] <anonymousinuk> cos my cpu being lil wierd and keeps calling for updates even though they are already complete and up to date, im total noob  and maybe just paranoid
[06:36] <urfr332gO> anonymousinuk, do not pm me.
[06:36] <anonymousinuk> now every fucker knows im noob they all want a piece
[06:37] <urfr332gO> anonymousinuk, I just asked you a simple question.
[06:37] <pangolin> !language | anonymousinuk
[06:38] <capecarnation> just about every person in this channel is a noob.  it is rare for someone that truly knows what they're doing to be in here.  nothing wrong with that :)
[06:38] <CFHowlett> capecarnation   there MAY be something in the dell Recovery media  creator
[06:39] <anonymousinuk> yea i know i can read like i said i didnt really wanna broadcast im a noob to whole room
[06:39] <CFHowlett> anonymousinuk   too late?
[06:39] <Canadian1296> capecarnation: Even if that's true, as long as we all know different things, together we know a whole lot :)
[06:39] <capecarnation> CFHowlett, not necessary, but thanks.  i can either disable it in the system set up menu or install a package that gives me a gui.  i'm going the route of the latter ;)
[06:39] <tables> what is the sound device on ubuntu?
[06:40] <tables> /dev/what ?
[06:40] <anonymousinuk> cfh yea kinda guessed that
[06:40] <capecarnation> Canadian1296, ok.  true, wasn't my point, but i do agree with you.
[06:41] <anonymousinuk> can i monitor my eth0 with tcpdump ?
[06:42] <anonymousinuk> and check for a compromise?
[06:43] <zykotick9> !info rkhunter | anonymousinuk
[06:44] <anonymousinuk> cheers guys
[06:44] <anonymousinuk> i may be back
[06:45] <CFHowlett> anonymousinuk   good luck mysterious stranger
[06:45] <anonymousinuk> CFH im sure thats not true
[06:45] <fairuz_> do-release-upgrade --proposed <-- does this command upgrade your machine from whatever version to the latest 12.04? Or I need something else.
[06:46] <urgodfather> CFHowlett: do you program?
[06:46] <CFHowlett> urgodfather   I do not program...
[06:47] <urgodfather> CFHowlett: ok nevermind
[06:47] <zykotick9> fairuz_: i'm not one for upgrading distros, but i think it's -d for development you want
[06:47]  * CFHowlett Thinks distro s/hoppers have commitment issues.
[06:47] <zykotick9> fairuz_: ask #ubuntu+1 for confirmation
[06:47] <fairuz_> zykotick9: thanks
[06:51] <anonymousinuk> CFHowlett how would one check to see if the site that im visiting to download hkhunter is a safe site?
[06:52] <CFHowlett> anonymousinuk   I pretty much trust my ffox settings and add-ons to alert me.  https-everywhere and betterprivacy
[06:53] <fri[k]> hi
[06:53] <CFHowlett> fri[k]   greetings
[06:53] <fri[k]> how can i see which programs are using certain ports on localhost?
[06:55] <zykotick9> fri[k]: (there's a better method) but if you know the ports you are interested in "lsof | grep 80" should list what is using port 80
[06:56] <fri[k]> cool
[06:56] <fri[k]> thx
[06:56] <fri[k]> or netstat right?
[06:56] <zykotick9> fri[k]: ya but i don't know the switches required ;)
[06:58] <_josh> anybody have experience installing ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[07:02] <Sterist> anyone know how to use testdisk? im trying to recover my 16gb mem card and it's being detected as 2199gb
[07:02] <chown_> _josh: i do want that, but as i read it has some issues with EFI
[07:03] <chown_> _josh: there are some tutorials for that, but it relates that some peaple are able to get it done and some dont
[07:03] <chown_> is there a comand to restart the interface only?
[07:04] <_josh> chown_, yeah that's what i'm finding out
[07:04] <dakiyq> Haiii
[07:04] <_josh> i'm not sure what to do about boot loader options
[07:04] <dakiyq> boot loader problem..?
[07:04] <CFHowlett> _josh   see refit
[07:04] <dakiyq> hee
[07:04] <QA> @sterist, check u've got the right disk
[07:05] <QA> @sterist, otherwise send your 2 TB SD card to me! lol
[07:05] <chown_> _josh: yeah,  the thing is some ppl are capable of use refit for lion, other dont
[07:05] <dakiyq> my problem......... notebook overheat... :'-(
[07:05] <chown_> but refit is the solution for dualboot linux/osx
[07:06] <altabq> need help pls. wanted to force quit an app using the gui widget..then the force quit window itself crashed and stays in the middle of my screen. is there any way to force quit it?
[07:06] <altabq> with force quit window i mean the little rectangle saying 'click on a window to force quit or press esc to cancel'
[07:07] <dakiyq> Overheat...... Overheat...... Need help...! Did anyone have same problem..?
[07:11]  * kthomas2 considers re-enabling middle click emulation
[07:11] <showcheap> hello
[07:11] <CFHowlett> showcheap   greetings
[07:12] <EkurioX> Hi
[07:12] <EkurioX> you know what I like... Potatoes
[07:12] <EkurioX> freaking awesome
[07:12] <kthomas2> best solution for notebook overheat:  don't let it get hot :P
[07:12] <CFHowlett> !ot|ekuriox
[07:12] <EkurioX> can make bread
[07:12] <EkurioX> vodka
[07:12] <EkurioX> pancakes
[07:12] <kthomas2> enough already.
[07:12] <kthomas2> the channel's OT enough :P
[07:12] <CFHowlett> !iot>ekuriox
[07:13] <EkurioX> Nah thrs never enough of potatoes
[07:14] <EkurioX> i love fuckin potatoes
[07:14] <EkurioX> man they are great
[07:15] <EkurioX> has anyone seen that new Ubuntu Tv
[07:16] <zykotick9> EkurioX: do you have an ubuntu support question?  If so, ask away.  To chat about UbuntuTV use #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:18] <EkurioX> Have you seen that Ubuntu tv
[07:18] <EkurioX> zykotick9
[07:19] <Corey> EkurioX: Do you have a support question?
[07:19] <CFHowlett> EkurioX   please take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:20] <kthomas2> anyone out there using Xdmx/xpra?  Instead of attempting xinerama over displays of different sizes,  I'm using xpra to move apps between X sessions in a single Xdmx session
[07:20] <kthomas2> but there are issues :)
[07:20] <helioz> Hi, is there any chance to get ubuntu without too many preloaded software ( I don't use the half of it anyway) an istallation like arch?
[07:21] <kthomas2> lubuntu?
[07:21] <zykotick9> !mini | helioz
[07:22] <helioz> Thanks, I owe you guys one! Good day.
[07:26] <user1> hi gm
[07:26] <arjun> hi guys, i update my ubuntu. after that its unable to detect the eth0. can someone tell me
[07:26] <EkurioX> how r you online right now thn ?
[07:27] <arjun> hey this is not for this laptop
[07:27] <EkurioX> use www.opensuse.org
[07:28] <joe_evans> hi, newbie here, anyone spend a couple of minutes with me as i have a ZERO SOUND problem, thanx
[07:28] <impi> hello. i know it's silly, but i cant get flash 64bit installed on my firefox v10.0.2 and ubuntu 10.4
[07:29] <joe_evans> speakers ok, sound settings ok, volume up, butno sound
[07:29] <EkurioX> You may want to try a cloud OS http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/overview/index.html
[07:29] <impi> i've downloaded the latest firefox, extracted it, and the latested flash player, but nothing i do will make firefox pick up flash
[07:29] <theadmin> EkurioX: Spam is not welcome here.
[07:29] <arjun> EkurioX: Hi, i need a solution, i dont want to change my entire os / reinstall new ubuntu
[07:30] <EkurioX> install flash under root
[07:30] <zykotick9> arjun: ignore EkurioX
[07:30] <tsimpson> EkurioX: stop giving bad advice place
[07:30] <tsimpson> *please
[07:30] <arjun> yup
[07:31] <impi> EkurioX: but if firefox is in /home/win/firefox/ where should i put the libflash.so file?
[07:31] <EkurioX> Sin?
[07:31] <arjun> tsimpson: hi, can i get it back
[07:31] <EkurioX> r you using it under tthat emulator ?
[07:32] <EkurioX> Win **
[07:32] <urfr332gO> bot
[07:32] <theadmin> impi: ~/.mozilla/plugins/ or /usr/lib/firefox
[07:32] <impi> theadmin: thank you let me try this
[07:32] <tsimpson> arjun: sorry, I can't really help with that. my network "just works" so I've never had to troubleshoot it
[07:32] <EkurioX> Fire fox should be installed under ~/user/lib
[07:33] <theadmin> *facepalm*
[07:33] <theadmin> tsimpson: Thank you.
[07:33] <EkurioX> hi guys
[07:33] <theadmin> Tm_T: You too :)
[07:33] <tsimpson> EkurioX: make sure you read the guidelines link in the channel /topic
[07:34] <theadmin> EkurioX: If you have no idea what you are talking about, don't talk.
[07:34] <EkurioX> shut up moron i done said the exact thing u did... BS
[07:34] <theadmin> Heheh.
[07:34] <arjun> ok
[07:34] <theadmin> Tm_T: And thanks again
[07:37] <XDS2010> hello
[07:37] <XDS2010> the grub menu isn't coming up anymore, i just upgrade to SP1, used wubu to initially install
[07:37] <XDS2010> please help
[07:38] <XDS2010> i think i might have installed to the wrong partition
[07:38] <theadmin> XDS2010: You may need to reconfigure your bootloader to point to wubi again somehow, or just do a normal install
[07:38] <urfr332gO> XDS2010, wubi is a file in windows.
[07:38] <XDS2010> theadmin: i don't want to overwrite anything
[07:38] <XDS2010> urfr332gO:  is there a fix for this?
[07:38] <recognosco> did anyone here build a gcc-4.7 snapshot on ubuntu successfully? i have tried quite a few times... and failed :(
[07:39] <urfr332gO> XDS2010, maybe really a regular install is a better way to go.
[07:39] <XDS2010> urfr332gO:  nnnnno i dont want to overwrite
[07:40] <theadmin> XDS2010: You can install Ubuntu near Windows without any problems
[07:40] <urfr332gO> XDS2010, NOT MUCH WUBI EXPERTISE HERE, YOU WOULD BE BETTER WITH A THREAD ON THE UBUNTU FORUMS REALLY.
[07:40] <recognosco> ps. the gcc-snapshot package that is currently installable from oneric is from october 2011
[07:40] <XDS2010> i dont understand, am i in shock
[07:40] <urfr332gO> opps sorry cap locked mistake my bad
[07:41] <XDS2010> do the wubi files live on the partition ?
[07:41] <XDS2010> :(
[07:41] <urfr332gO> XDS2010, yeah the windows partition, as a file.
[07:41] <pfifo> recognosco, whats the problem?
[07:42] <XDS2010> urfr332gO: all i see is a 2 meg exe file
[07:42] <XDS2010> and the iso
[07:43] <urfr332gO> XDS2010, I know very little about wubi really, other then what I have posted.
[07:43] <XDS2010> ok
[07:43] <theadmin> XDS2010: The Ubuntu install in case of wubi is stored in drive/ubuntu/disks/root.disk (where "drive" is the partition you "installed" to)
[07:44] <XDS2010> theadmin:  i see no ubuntu folder in any drives
[07:44] <Sterist> anyone know how to use testdisk --or-- know of an alternative? im trying to recover my 16gb mem card and it's being detected as 2199gb
[07:45] <recognosco> pfifo: failing to build gcc-4.7 snapshot
[07:45] <chown_> hey guys, supose i want to install linux on another pc, is there a way to me back up all my configuration from this pc and take it to the another one? if there is, how should i proceed?
[07:45] <recognosco> pfifo: had any success with it?
[07:46] <pfifo> recognosco, well there not guaranteed to build at all. Ill try the latest and see what happens
[07:46] <theadmin> chown_: Just take a disk image with dd
[07:46] <theadmin> chown_: That is, though, only if the target machine has a hard drive of size equal to or greater than that of the source machine.
[07:46] <XDS2010> theadmin:  are you sure it lives as a file
[07:46] <theadmin> XDS2010: Yes.
[07:47] <drcode> hi all
[07:47] <XDS2010> :-/ , my god i hope so
[07:47] <pfifo> recognosco, ill try with GCC 4.7-20120225 Snapshot
[07:47] <drcode> how can I disable pae in ubuntu 11.10
[07:47] <zykotick9> theadmin: that is going to cause network issues however - udev is going to find a new MAC and thus change the ethX
[07:47] <zykotick9> drcode: install a non PAE kernel
[07:47] <recognosco> pfifo: i am trying that myself. thanks.
[07:47] <pfifo> drcode, install a non-pae kernel
[07:47] <drcode> I use it in other virtualbox with pure 64bit
[07:47] <theadmin> zykotick9: Yeah some I guess. Well.
[07:47] <llutz_> chown_: tar your old installation, copy/extract to new, edit /etc/fstab, rewrite grub, done
[07:47] <theadmin> zykotick9: You could use tar
[07:47] <drcode> the vdi is installed with pae , is there way to change it?
[07:48] <chown_> theadmin: ok, im sorry i think i didnt express what i mean. how would i backup my linux, so if something happened i would have my linux backup to put in this machine or another one? the same thing?
[07:48] <tsimpson> drcode: unless you installed (and booted from) a PAE kernel, it's not enabled. if you did, then just boot from a non-PAE (ie -generic) kernel
[07:48] <chown_> Oh, really that simple?
[07:48] <tsimpson> drcode: sorry, wrong one
[07:48] <tsimpson> pfifo: unless you installed (and booted from) a PAE kernel, it's not enabled. if you did, then just boot from a non-PAE (ie -generic) kernel
[07:48] <theadmin> chown_: Probably so. But I suggest you use the tar methd.
[07:48] <tsimpson> ignore me..
[07:48] <llutz_> chown_: and remove /etc/udev/rules.d/*persisten-net*
[07:48] <drcode> I have old vdi that pae is enabled
[07:49] <pfifo> tsimpson, drcode is asking
[07:49] <tsimpson> pfifo: yeah, just ignore me. not enough caffeine
[07:49] <llutz_> "70-persistent-net.rules" it is
[07:50] <chown_> theadmin: im sorry im new to this world. when a new update comes to ubuntu, like 12.04 is comming. How would i handle that? should i do a clean install and somehow put my things there or it would just updame my 11.10?
[07:50] <drcode> is it possible to use ubuntu rescue and remove kernel-image-pae?
[07:50] <drcode> any huide?
[07:50] <drcode> guide
[07:50] <theadmin> chown_: Clean installs work, but you can upgrade too (then again you can never be sure it works right, it doesn't work for everyone)
[07:51] <drcode> can I tell in boot menu to diable pae?
[07:51] <drcode> so I can boot and remove the kerenl?
[07:52] <zykotick9> chown_: ubuntu's release schedule doesn't allow for much testing of upgrades from one release to the next, so issues are VERY common.  You'll probably find most experienced ubuntu users will recommend clean installs.
[07:52] <XDS2010> theadmin:  E2FS worked
[07:52] <chown_> theadmin: i see. ty. do u know a good source for me to search and understand what each subfolder of / is for? like bin,etc,usr etc?
[07:52] <XDS2010> thanks guys
[07:52] <XDS2010> you guys are freakin SUPERB!
[07:53] <chown_> zykotick9: i see, but in this case, how should ibackup my things and configurations to pass to clean install?
[07:53] <llutz_> !fhs | chown_
[07:53] <XDS2010> i think im going to cry
[07:53] <chown_> zykotick9: just my home folder?
[07:53] <theadmin> chown_: Google for "FHS"
[07:53] <Kartagis> do you guys know of a broken link checker for websites behind CAS?
[07:54] <zykotick9> chown_: home is a good place to start for sure, if you don't personally edit system settings /etc, then /home might be all you need.
[07:54] <XDS2010> for anyone else that runs into this http://www.chrysocome.net/downloads/vv-0.7-install.exe , this will read the volume
[07:55] <chown_> thank you guys, theadmin, llutz_, zykotick9. i apreciate your help.
[07:59] <Linuxephus> Who here has experience installing scripts for the IRSSI client? The directions for doing so at irssi.org are inadequate at best.
[07:59] <llutz_> Linuxephus: ~/.irssi/scripts
[07:59] <llutz_> Linuxephus: ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun for those you want to "autorun"
[08:00] <Linuxephus> llutz_: That directory doesn't exist in my home folder. Nor have I been able to create it using the listed commands to do so.
[08:00] <llutz_> Linuxephus: mkdir -p ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun
[08:00] <chown_> quick question, there are programs that install themselves at /usr/bin?
[08:01] <Linuxephus> llutz_: Ah, now I'm getting somewhere, my thanks. Standby.
[08:01] <chown_> i mean, if my pc has 2 users registred, and i intall a software, this software is able for both users, or just for me?
[08:01] <llutz_> chown_: for all users
[08:02] <zykotick9> chown_: most programs install there... /usr is shared
[08:02] <theadmin> chown_: Depends on how you install it. If you use APT, then for everyone
[08:03] <chown_> ok, ty again. now im gonna read a little for more understanding. thank you!
[08:03] <llutz_> chown_: "a user" can only install stuff inside his $HOME. to install things to /usr/* it needs root-rights(sudo) and it will be available systemwide the
[08:03] <llutz_> n
[08:03] <Linuxephus> llutz_: My thanks. Such a simple command opens many a door way.
[08:04] <llutz_> Linuxephus: well, linux basics :)
[08:04] <pfifo> recognosco, im failing at building libiberty, most likely due to new code only partially being introduced. there could be a patch on the mailing list. but Im not going to search for it.
[08:04] <Linuxephus> Apparently I need to brush up onmine friend.
[08:04] <chown_> llutz_: oh, i got it! by default the ubuntu software center install things as root?
[08:04] <llutz_> chown_: yes
[08:05] <chown_> ok, thanks llutz_
[08:08] <mike___> Hey, anyone around that knows about problems with nvidia drivers and (impossible) max resolution on external monitors?
[08:12] <recognosco> pfifo: i just downloaded the frozen 4.7 snapshot for ubuntu from launchpad. which is supposed to be patched. or so i assume. building it now. *crossed fingers*
[08:12] <recognosco> pfifo: thanks anyways.
[08:12] <okum> homeboys.. i used to be able to watch fullscreen vids on youtube, after updating my driver, fullscreen is laggy.. like it skips pixels or something.
[08:13] <Sterist> anyone know how to use testdisk --or-- ANY alternative? im trying to recover my 16gb mem card and it's being detected as 2199gb
[08:15] <pneftali> hi guys, how to create symbolic link ? ln -s name_of_link path/of/the/file ?
[08:15] <helmut_> hi
[08:17] <tsimpson> pneftali: "ln -s target link_name"
[08:17] <SubjectOne> what does a symbolic link do ?
[08:17] <SubjectOne> is that like a shadow copy
[08:18] <jb3258_> kinda
[08:18] <arjun> its like a shotcut of that file
[08:18] <tsimpson> SubjectOne: it create a file that only references the target file, but doesn't actually contain data
[08:18] <SubjectOne> i want to centralize my logfiles in a dir, wish is synced in realtime to a external location ( so the primary log's can't be erased )
[08:19] <pneftali> tsimpson: i'm doing this -- su myname ln -s /var/www/zend/library/Zend ./linkme
[08:19] <chown_> but if some sort of service pick this shortcut it will redirect to the file/folder right?
[08:19] <SubjectOne> wish = which
[08:19] <SubjectOne> my english sux
[08:19] <pneftali> and got a response -- /var/www/zend/library/Zend: /var/www/zend/library/Zend: is a directory
[08:19] <pfifo> I say we order pizza, enough to feed 1457
[08:20] <pneftali> tsimpson: did i miss something ?
[08:22] <shivam7074> can any 1 tell what is this "freenode web irc"???
[08:22] <tsimpson> pneftali: su expects the command to be passed via the -c option, so try:  su -c "ln -s /var/www/zend/library/Zend ./linkme" myname
[08:23] <pneftali> mm will try
[08:23] <SubjectOne> shivam7074: , how do you mean ? you are already on it
[08:24] <pneftali> tsimpson: i'm am getting a permission denied response
[08:24] <tsimpson> pneftali: make sure the user has permission to write to the directory
[08:25] <shivam7074> i just get in here wid my probs, but don no wat this place is???
[08:25] <biopyte> hi. is there such an application that works like a news ticker, scrolling news in a bar, but with own text messages and alarm functionality?  somehow, a scrolling messages alarm clock.
[08:25] <pneftali> tsimpson: how do I check my permission ?
[08:25] <SubjectOne> shivam7074: , here you can ask a question , and hopefully some ubuntu guru can help you
[08:25] <tsimpson> pneftali: look at the output of "ls -ld"
[08:26] <pfifo> shivam7074, this is a chat room, the topic is ubuntu support
[08:26] <pneftali> tsimpson: ls -ld at my current directory and get this response -- "drwxr-xr-x 64 bhermoso bhermoso 4096 Sep 29 23:40 ."
[08:27] <pneftali> bhermoso isn't me, tho
[08:27] <shivam7074> and is this only for ubuntu users like me??? cuz i saw somethin like channels wat r channels???
[08:27] <tsimpson> pneftali: then your user doesn't have any write permissions to that directory, and so can't create a file (or link) there
[08:27] <SubjectOne> try '/list' that will show you the active channels on freenode ( beware : this can take some time to render )
[08:28] <pneftali> tsimpson: i'm assuming bhermoso has the write permisison?
[08:28] <pneftali> permission*
[08:28] <pfifo> shivam7074, IRC or internet relay chat is a service designed to host chatrooms, freenode is an irc network.
[08:29] <tsimpson> pneftali: well, that output tells you that the owner is "bhermoso" and the group is "bhermoso". the permissions are "rwxr-xr-x", so only 'w' (write) exists for the owner
[08:29] <shivam7074> does ubuntu own irc???
[08:30] <tsimpson> shivam7074: IRC is not owned by anyone, it's a protocol, like http is
[08:30] <SubjectOne> shivam7074 : how old r you
[08:30] <pfifo> SubjectOne, /var/log is a great place to put log files, most of the system and daemon logs are already there as well
[08:31] <shivam7074> 15
[08:31] <shivam7074> why???
[08:32] <pfifo> shivam7074 reminds me of the days when DALnet was cool
[08:32] <SubjectOne> pfifo : i know, but want a realtime copy of those logs ( on other place ) when there is an intrusion (  i can resort to untampered logs )
[08:32] <SubjectOne> shivam7074: , cause all information you asked is available in google :p
[08:32] <AdvoWork> Hi there, just wondering, does anyone know exactly what sudo apt-get install php5-gd does? i mean, does it literally get the .so and copy it to a dir and change php.ini or what else? how would I ever find that out?
[08:32] <pfifo> SubjectOne, use rsync to move copy them to another location
[08:33] <shivam7074> sorry to bother u all???
[08:34] <pfifo> shivam7074, as you can see this is a busy chatroom, you should join #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss non-ubuntu support topics
[08:34] <SubjectOne> shivam7074: , you didn't bother at all, but research your questions abit before asking ( we can put you on the right track )
[08:34] <Kaco> hi
[08:35] <theadmin> AdvoWork: dpkg -L php5-gd (once installed) will list all files in the php5-gd package
[08:35] <theadmin> AdvoWork: Will help you to figure something out hopefully
[08:36] <llutz_> SubjectOne: why don't you use a loghost, without local logs?
[08:37] <SubjectOne> ah didn't know that was an option
[08:37] <SubjectOne> will have al look for that
[08:37] <pfifo> AdvoWork, apt-get is a front end for the "dpkg" program also
[08:37] <SubjectOne> thanx llutz
[08:38] <pneftali> pwd
[08:39] <aleale97> Hi
[08:40] <recognosco> damn
[08:40] <recognosco> crti.o was not found
[08:41] <recognosco> apt-file search found it in a few places
[08:41] <k013> hi, doubt, please help! why i operate my laptop without connecting to the internet the cpu temperature is 48 celsius when connected via firefox the temperature is 62 celsius, is this normal? (ubuntu 11.10)
[08:41] <pfifo> recognosco, why exactly are you trying to build a snapshot?
[08:41] <k013> i mean - when
[08:41] <tsimpson> recognosco: it's part of the compiler (GCC)
[08:42] <pfifo> recognosco, crti.o would be created while building, it looks like someone messed up the makefile
[08:42] <recognosco> pfifo: playing with c++11 features... hehe
[08:42] <aleale97> It's definely not normal...
[08:42] <pfifo> recognosco, why not use a stable build of gcc?
[08:42] <Subject1ne> holly crap
[08:43] <sweb> ubuntu have a problem. destroy my laptop speaker twice and my friend also
[08:43] <recognosco> pfifo: 4.6 doesn't support a lot of the new C++11 things... like regex or using typedef
[08:43] <tester> hi
[08:43] <aleale97> Hi tester
[08:44] <pfifo> recognosco, i thought there were patches for them?
[08:44] <tsimpson> recognosco: I don't think regex is even in gcc trunk
[08:45] <k013> aleale97 - anything i can do to cool things down? (not a code writer by the way)
[08:45] <aleale97> K03 any pronli
[08:45] <aleale97> Em?;-)
[08:45] <tsimpson> k013: CPUs normally operate at those kinds of temperatures, ~60 is pretty normal
[08:46] <tsimpson> especially for slightly older CPUs
[08:46] <pat123> salut
[08:46] <recognosco> tsimpson: #include <regex.h> is supported in 4.7
[08:47] <aleale97> But why so much difference?
[08:47] <aithox> hello..i've some problem with my cursor .. it is disappear while mouse press
[08:47] <tsimpson> recognosco: the <regex> header exits, and many of the classes also exist. they just don't actually work :)
[08:47] <k013> tsimpson - thanks, but the laptop is brand new, and the battery stay for only 4 minutes. that's why i asked. when dual boot with windows the battery lasts for 1.5 hrs and cpu temp 52 celsius
[08:48] <recognosco> tsimpson: well, i am using boost for now anyways, was just trying to see if i could get 4.7 snapshot to work
[08:48] <Dave_Maydew> Will 12.04 work with the GeForceFX video cards?
[08:48] <pfifo> k013, it might be time to clean your CPU block and fan.
[08:48] <tsimpson> recognosco: I tried a while ago with 4.7, there are some new toys, but no regex
[08:48] <Starn> ummm i don't know if this is the right place to ask.. but is there an 64bit alternitive to colinux?  i would like to have some of the ubuntu futures on windows.. and i used to use colinux.. it used less memory the a VM which i am short on.
[08:49] <aithox> hello..i've some problem with my cursor .. it is disappear while mouse press
[08:49] <pfifo> k013, perhaps youi should look into power saving features of linux
[08:49] <tsimpson> k013: also, have a look and see if there are processes using the CPU, there may be ways to trim down the usage
[08:49] <aithox> on ubuntu 11.10
[08:50] <k013> pfifo and tsimpson- i'll do that and get back, thank you so much, have a nice day, bye!
[08:50] <pfifo> !pangolin | Dave_Maydew
[08:50] <aithox> :S
[08:51] <aithox> :-/
[08:51] <Dave_Maydew> I'm aware of that, but will it have the issues of 11.04 & 11.10 ironed out for the Nvidia GeForceFX Cards?
[08:51] <pfifo> "Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1"
[08:51] <M4dH4tt3r> y dave?
[08:52] <Seryth> Dave_Maydew: I have a nVidia GeForce FX 5200, no problems in 11.04 or 11.10
[08:52]  * M4dH4tt3r has never had such issues but has head of them
[08:52] <M4dH4tt3r> heard*
[08:52] <Dave_Maydew> I run a Sony VGC-V2M with the GeFprceFX 5700 onboard and I get grey screen and a cutout where Unity is
[08:53] <Dave_Maydew> if it can work, where am I going wrong?
[08:54] <Dave_Maydew> I know the 173 driver don't work
[08:55] <recognosco> tsimpson: i don't know why, but i thought 4.7 had regex support. how naive of me.
[08:55] <Dave_Maydew> I want to make the move to Unity, especially after playing on a friends PC with it
[08:56] <Dave_Maydew> so if anyone can point me in the right direction to get it to work, I'll be a very happy man
[08:56] <pfifo> Dave_Maydew, you can always use unity-2d
[08:57] <Dave_Maydew> tried but it screws up still
[08:57] <Dave_Maydew> as 11.10 boots into a grey screen it won't display anything
[08:58] <tsimpson> recognosco: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/manual/status.html#status.iso.200x contains the current status, most of the regex stuff is still "partial"
[08:58] <Dave_Maydew> and I've been told my version of card has been blacklisted
[08:58] <pfifo> Dave_Maydew, have you tried the new noeavu driver?
[08:58] <aithox> hello..i've some problem with my cursor .. it is disappeared while mouse pressing
[08:59] <Dave_Maydew> If I could install it via the GUI I would
[08:59] <aithox> if i m in wrong place plz point me another channel
[08:59] <Dave_Maydew> unless there's a way to do it via the Terminal?
[08:59] <aithox> :S
[08:59] <aithox> :S
[09:01] <Dave_Maydew> I've been running Ubuntu since making the move from the darkside in 2009, but I've only just decided t really learn the terminal commands
[09:01] <recognosco> tsimpson: yeah. dismal. :(
[09:02] <pfifo> Dave_Maydew, this should explain everything https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/NvidiaDriverSwitching
[09:04] <Pikkachu> "apt-get build-dep: causes apt-get to install/remove packages in an attempt to satisfy the build dependencies for a source package" -- is this process rollbackable?
[09:05] <aithox> hi is there another ubuntu channel?
[09:05] <Dave_Maydew> Will this removing old drivers and installing Nouveau ones work on my card?
[09:05] <Pikkachu> aithox: a lot
[09:06] <pfifo> Dave_Maydew, do the part in #6 Problem: Need to fully remove -nvidia and installing or reinstall -nouveau from scratch
[09:06] <ZeloZelos_> not here
[09:06] <ZeloZelos_> oops
[09:08] <pfifo> Pikkachu, it will list all the packages that it intends to install/remove you can copy this info down and rollback manually at a later time
[09:08] <aithox> i've some problem with my cursor .. it is disappeared while mouse pressing
[09:08] <Dave_Maydew> will give Part 6 a go
[09:08] <aithox> plz..
[09:08] <aithox> anybody no?
[09:09] <pfifo> !patience | aithox, the channel is slow right now,
[09:10] <aithox> :S :D
[09:10] <aithox> no one answer me
[09:10] <aithox> :S
[09:10] <daan4711> Hi, I have got a question: How can I set up my usb-keyboard to have another keyboard-layout than my laptop-built-in-keyboard. I figured something out using xorg.conf, but this does only work when I start u with my usb-keyboard plugged in, after replugging, it reverts back to the original keyboard-layout.
[09:12] <pfifo> daan4711, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[09:12] <aithox> oic thx
[09:14] <Pikkachu> pfifo: oh just remembered, but I have a dependency-resolving tool in hand, I don't get how can't it make the process reversible
[09:14] <daan4711> pfifo: Hi, thanx for the link. But this wiki doesn't seem to say anything about multiple layouts and keyboards, or am I wrong?
[09:15] <hroi> hi
[09:15] <hroi> im wondering how often my pid's roll over... how high do they actually go?
[09:16] <hroi> I have a process that records pid's and kills those certain pid's after a time-out... so I'm worried about safe practice.
[09:16] <pfifo> Pikkachu, if it says its going to install x package, then you can later remove x package with ap-get purge
[09:16] <pat123> how cant i get my broadcom to f ^%$ work(on maverick) i ve read plz direct me to  documentation
[09:16] <pfifo> hroi, 65535
[09:16] <pat123> merci
[09:17] <Pikkachu> pfifo: how does that change the point
[09:17] <hroi> pfifo:  perhaps a more safe practice would be if I can filter both pid and command invocation for the process.... if that is actually possible.
[09:19] <pfifo> Pikkachu, I dont follow, is there something wrong with simply removing the software when your done with it?
[09:19] <thp_> hi! question re remote viewing, client end, it's not connecting, ip is per server end.  keeps on timing out. what might i be missing here?
[09:19] <Pikkachu> pfifo: you don't really mean removing "the software"
[09:20] <pfifo> Pikkachu, thats exactly what I mean, to "rollback" build-dep, simply remove what it installs
[09:20] <Pikkachu> pfifo: one application can be packaged as a single dummy package of dependencies which won't be tracked by purge but just autoremove or something else
[09:20] <greenit> hi, i have just watched a vid about ubuntu on the smartphone, and there was an interesting feature, where i want to know, if it alrdy exists in ubuntu: he said that the environment on the phone is able to run windows-applicatiosn (like mso) through a windows7-server where this service is running
[09:21] <greenit> is this feature alrdy in the ubuntu-desktop?
[09:21] <Pikkachu> pfifo: why you repeat yourself and ignore my points? you're not even able to implement what I said, so what are you trying to do? I don't ask for not knowing
[09:22] <llutz_> Pikkachu: its open source, feel free to package all those meta-dev-packages you need. the community will say thank you (maybe)
[09:22] <Pikkachu> llutz_: that doesn't invalidate the point, but you gave me an idea to workaround it
[09:23] <pfifo> daan4711, I use "setxkbmap dvorak" myself and switch back and forth as needed, perhaps that is what you need
[09:23] <llutz_> Pikkachu: i didn't say you're wrong. its just a thing nobody does yet
[09:23] <dyd> guys my network icon on the top right is no more visible
[09:23] <dyd> ubuntu 10.04
[09:24] <Pikkachu> llutz_: I haven't touched PPA stuff in LP but do you think a dummy package could be set up in the web by just picking up dependencies and pushing to the PPA?
[09:24] <soreau> dyd: Is nm-applet running?
[09:24] <Pikkachu> llutz_: but you didn't say I was right
[09:24] <llutz_> Pikkachu: i'm not sure but i don't see a reason why that shouldn't be possible
[09:25] <Pikkachu> llutz_: ok will check ppas maybe
[09:25] <dyd> soreau, have no idea, it's the default ubuntu network icon where you can see wireless, eth etc
[09:25] <greenit> does any1 know if it is possible to run windows-applications in ubuntu 11.10 via a windows7-server? if you don't exactly know what i mean, i can give you a link to the video i watched :)
[09:25] <warm> Hi, I am using ubuntu 11.10, and my monitor was splitted to six parts,each displaying the same desktop. How can i fix that? thx very much.
[09:25] <llutz_> Pikkachu: i just showed you a way to go, i didn't say right/wrong. yes
[09:25] <soreau> dyd: Try alt+f2 then type nm-applet
[09:26] <Pikkachu> greenit: I don't want to watch it for some odd reason
[09:26] <dyd> soreau, i found that manage=false must be changed
[09:26] <Pikkachu> llutz_: ok thanks anyway
[09:26] <daan4711_> pfifo: I am able to use "setxkbmap -device 10 us" to set my usb-keyboard to us (colemak is default), but the ID of my usb-key changes sometimes. Is it possible to run this action every time I plug-in my usb keyboard?
[09:26] <dyd> soreau, and yes, it seems like an nm-applet
[09:27] <carpediembaby> hi. i mount a fat32 drive and it is mounted as read only. how can i fix it? also, the permissions are set for root
[09:27] <dyd> soreau, i edited th enm-system-settings.conf with managed=true but as i restart network it says WARNING: ifup -a is disabled in favour of NetworkManager.
[09:27] <soreau> dyd: well you want NetworkManager and nm-applet running
[09:27] <carpediembaby> i mount it like: "/dev/sda6 /media/DATA vfat auto" in fstab
[09:27] <dyd> soreau, yes, how to remove that ifup thing
[09:28] <soreau> dyd: Check to see if nm-applet is running with this command: ps ax|grep nm-applet|grep -v grep
[09:28] <pfifo> daan4711_, You can write a udev rule to setup usb devices when you plug them in
[09:28] <dyd> soreau, 1328 ? S 0:00 nm-applet --sm-disable
[09:29] <llutz_> carpediembaby: man mount (uid/gid/umask options)
[09:29] <soreau> dyd: ok its running so try restarting it with this: killall nm-applet; nm-applet & disown
[09:29] <daan4711_> pfifo: Ok, I'll find that out, does udev also work in the loginscreen and tty's?
[09:30] <novatax> dyd : can you connect to the internet?
[09:30] <dyd> soreau, i rebooted
[09:30] <dyd> novatax, the problem is on another computer
[09:30] <dyd> novatax, a laptop
[09:30] <soreau> dyd: Maybe you just need to add Notification Area to your panel then
[09:30] <dyd> novatax, and no, i can't connect
[09:30] <dyd> soreau, reboot worked
[09:31] <pfifo> daan4711_, udev is a system service so it always works, I think you mean your keyboard, and that depends on how you set it up
[09:31] <dyd> novatax, soreau, thank you, now it's fine
[09:31] <warm> carpediembaby, if you want that partition to be writable, you can replace auto with defaults.
[09:31] <novatax> don't mention it
[09:31] <Pikkachu> for who asked about ps, ps aux | awk -F ' ' '{ print $4; }' or something like
[09:31] <soreau> dyd: cool
[09:32] <dyd> i'm in an university, and we have .p12 certificates to use the wifi network, how can i install this?
[09:32] <llutz_> warm: "defaults" won't mount vfat user-rw
[09:33] <mister2> is there a way to run a program that has a gui without it? it pops up a little notification in a new window when it's minimized. i want the window that pops up, but i'd like to have the program run all the time without being around. small screen size and all that
[09:33] <mister2> it's java based if that helps
[09:34] <warm> llutz, oh, I am using  ntfs, that works. sorry for the mistake.
[09:34] <carpediembaby> warm: i replaced with defaults, unmounted/remounted and it still has permissions like: drwxr-xr-x with root user
[09:34] <chown_> hey guys, im having some troubble here. I did changed my /etc/fstab and its working well, it is mouting up at boot. The thing is when i open myfile browser, it has 2 categories: Devices and Computer. Under Computer it shows all my mounts that i did unter fstab, the broblem is under the Devices it show all my mount again but not mounted
[09:35] <prooz> Where can i find PPA for 9.10 ?
[09:35] <pfifo> !ppa | prooz
[09:35] <warm> carpediembaby, sorry for the wrong guide, llutz  just points that out, it won't work for vfat.
[09:36] <pfifo> !9.10 | prooz, also
[09:36] <rurufufuss> I seem to have installed gcc/g++ 4.6, but gcc --version is still 4.4. how do I fix this?
[09:37] <klawd> how can i stop ubuntu from overwriting my resolv.conf every time i boot?
[09:38] <llutz_> klawd: set your dns in networkmanager or dhclient.conf
[09:38] <pfifo> klawd, there are 3 options that work for me, 1. use static IP addresses, 2 edit /etc/network/interfaces and 3 set DNS addresses in network-manager gui
[09:38] <chown_> look whats happening to my mounts: http://uppix.net/6/b/5/f1016566a98895efc189aecda77ba.png
[09:39] <klawd> eh
[09:39] <klawd> hm
[09:39] <wookienz> can someone tell me the difference between oneric kernel and  precise kernel?
[09:39] <klawd> it kinda sucks that ubunuts gui stuff overwrites the changes i make on the console in the first place
[09:39] <crizzy> linux 3.0 vs 3.2
[09:39] <crizzy> :)
[09:39] <llutz_> klawd: /etc/resolv.conf isn't meant to be edited manually
[09:39] <carpediembaby> llutz_: is this okay: "/dev/sda6 /media/DATA vfat -o rw,auto" i don't really know how this works
[09:40] <klawd> llutz_: i see
[09:40] <pfifo> klawd, theres no gui involved in the overwriting, dhcpclient overwrites it
[09:40] <llutz_> carpediembaby: read "man mount" about uid/gid/umask options
[09:40] <klawd> aye, thanks
[09:40] <dhruvasagar> klawd: what exactly do yo uwant to achieve ?
[09:41] <klawd> dhruvasagar: add another dns server to my resolving
[09:41] <dhruvasagar> klawd: I do that, all you need to do is add a pre dns server mapping
[09:41] <klawd> where?
[09:41] <llutz_> klawd: how do you configure your network, using /etc/network/interfaces or networkmanager?
[09:42] <klawd> network/interfaces. i just use dhcp right now though
[09:43] <llutz_> klawd: edit dhclient.conf, add "prepend domain-name-servers 1.2.3.4;"
[09:43] <skyzer> hi all
[09:43] <ch33z> llutz
[09:43] <klawd> aye, thanks
[09:43] <ch33z> pm me
[09:43] <ch33z> i can help you allthe way through
[09:43] <klawd> is there append as well?
[09:43] <llutz_> klawd: replace with your preferred dns
[09:43] <dhruvasagar> klawd: edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf file and add a prepend domain-name-server
[09:44] <ch33z> llutz if you need help pm me
[09:44] <skyzer> anyone can help me set up personal vpn on ubuntu
[09:44] <wookienz> skyzer, openvpn
[09:44] <ch33z> i can skyzer
[09:44] <llutz_> ch33z: sure, i will
[09:44] <llutz_> ...
[09:44] <dhruvasagar> klawd: you can add multiple entries separated by ','
[09:44] <pfifo> llutz_, lol!
[09:45] <skyzer> any link for tutorial.easy to understand ?
[09:45] <prooz> pfifo: Thank you.
[09:45] <klawd> thank you guys
[09:45] <wookienz> skyzer, nothing on hand...google is always your friend.
[09:46] <skyzer> :) thank frenz if i dont understand i will look up for up
[09:46] <llutz_> skyzer: look at openVPN.org, they have easy tutorials
[09:46] <KrisDouglas> Hello, when we connect to our servers from a KCom line in Hull the connection hangs if we try to run LS or anything that has a largish output. Any thoughts on the cause of this?
[09:46] <skyzer> ok lutz..tq
[09:46] <KrisDouglas> The servers work and respond perfectly from everywhere else.
[09:46] <moogz> hi all, i'd like to have a persistent netcat spawned shell attached to a socket upon bootup (in a secure test environment) what's the best way to achieve this?
[09:47] <skorket> I'm not sure if this is an ubuntu problem or an arduino problem (I've also asked the question on #arduino) but I'm having trouble programming my Duemilanuve arduino compatible board.  It's giving me 'avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding' when I try and program it.  From a brief look on forums they suggest a misconfigured something or other having to do with the USB port.  Do you guys have any suggestions on ways to deb
[09:47] <skorket> ug this?  I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric).
[09:47] <recognosco> llutz_: why would say /etc/resolv.conf is not meant to be edited manually? if anyone feels like it, they should, by all means, edit it ;)
[09:47] <pfifo> moogz, I would add a entry to /etc/rc.local
[09:48] <llutz_> recognosco: well and then they cry when it gets overwritten
[09:48] <llutz_> recognosco: there are better means to setup dns than changing that file directly
[09:48] <moogz> aha, thanks pfifo.  this is the line of script i'm intending to use: while true; do nc -lp 23 -e /bin/bash  ; done & - do i need the &? and is there a more elegant way to have it respawn upon connection close?
[09:49] <chown_> how to fix this duplicated  mount points?: http://uppix.net/6/b/5/f1016566a98895efc189aecda77ba.png
[09:49] <recognosco> llutz_: then you can over-overwrite it with a cronjob perhaps?
[09:49] <llutz_> recognosco: bad hacks
[09:49] <llutz_> recognosco: just do it "right", no need for hacks
[09:49] <pfifo> moogz, you could also make an upstart job if your up to it, upstart will allow you to respawn jobs
[09:50] <moogz> would the while hack work, d'ya think?  this is the first time i've encountered the upstart aspect of rc scripts, so i think i'd like whatever's easiest and most reliable
[09:50] <Seryth> Hey all. I'm trying to play a DVD via vlc, but when I go to open disc, nothing happens. I think this is because it's trying to use /dev/dvd, when my dvd is actually in /media/dvd_title. What can I do? I tried pointing vlc at /media/dvd_title, but nothing happens (again!). What can I do?
[09:51] <pfifo> moogz, yes the while loop will work, or atleast it appears that it will, make sure you dont let rc.local enter an infinate loop
[09:51] <recognosco> llutz_: tell me more about "right", i like to learn :)
[09:52] <pfifo> moogz, it may be better to make a shell script and then run it in rc.local "myscript.sh &"
[09:53] <recognosco> pfifo: got to build 4.7 finally :-D
[09:53] <llutz_> recognosco: lots of ways depending on your networksetup. dhclient.conf, /etc/network/interfaces "dns-nameserers...", /etc/resolvconf/conf.d/*, networkmanager etcpp
[09:53] <Jitu> HI guys
[09:54] <Jitu> M new in ubuntu
[09:54] <moogz> ok pfifo i'll try that out
[09:54] <moogz> thanks for your input
[09:54] <pfifo> Seryth, /dev/dvd is the dvd drive, /media/dvd_title is the disk
[09:54] <Jitu> can  u suggest me the most important apps for ubuntu???
[09:55] <Seryth> pfifo: Well, neither one works :/
[09:55] <pfifo> Seryth, try playing /dev/cdrom
[09:55] <Jitu> M geting very low sound in ubuntu as comapre to windows 7
[09:55] <Jitu> can any 1 help to fix this
[09:56] <pfifo> Jitu, increase the volume
[09:56] <Jitu> i did
[09:56] <Jitu> its over 100%
[09:56] <Jitu> Still same
[09:56] <pfifo> Jitu, try running 'alsamixer' and increasing it there
[09:57] <Jitu> k
[09:57] <recognosco> llutz_: networkmanager is gui, we will not count that. dhclient is out - what if there is no dhcp... now read this: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Defining_the_.28DNS.29_Nameservers
[09:58] <llutz_> recognosco: "dns-nameservers x.y.w.z" in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:59] <mi3> Hi, I downloaded a font called bank gothic light bt and installed it, now i would like to add it to conky, what name do I write in that file? can someone suggest that?
[09:59] <llutz_> recognosco: you read "Don't use this method if you have the resolvconf program installed"  which should be in most cases
[10:00] <moogz> pfifo: i gave that a shot, but it doesn't seem to run my spawnd.sh onboot - it works a charm if i run spawnd & after boot though
[10:00] <moogz> to a line preceding exit 0, i've added: /bin/spawnd &
[10:00] <recognosco> llutz_: yeah, but that is a special condition...
[10:00] <llutz_> recognosco: not really
[10:01] <derpladee> hey guys, evince is really fast and cool but it only has room for like 5 pages at the same time when i open a PDF
[10:01] <derpladee> can i allow it to use more memory or something like that?
[10:01] <recognosco> llutz_: so we can remove resolnconf and manually edit /etc/resolv.conf < solvs the problem
[10:01] <moogz> i do have a successful script setup in rcS.d, so i'm trying to prepend the spawnd & line to that
[10:01] <mi3> Hi, I downloaded a font called bank gothic light bt and installed it, now i would like to add it to conky, what name do I write in that file? can someone suggest that?
[10:01] <derpladee> i mean, it only stores 5 pages in the memory so if i go to another page not in those 5 then it will stop to load
[10:01] <pfifo> moogz, well, upstart gives you the best felixibility if all else fails
[10:01] <derpladee> i don't mind it using 1gb memory because i have enough and i use pdfs a lot
[10:02] <llutz_> recognosco: so we configure /etc/network/interfaces once, and never have to care about /etc/resolv.conf <- solves the problem. lets stop it here
[10:02] <moogz> dang.  so it's a bit strange that even with my working rcS.d/S01blah script which is fully operational, that when i add one extra command as the first line it doesn't work
[10:03] <moogz> i guess i could try outputting &>/root/whatsgoingon to see if something's amiss, but it works when i'm booted up
[10:04] <mi3> anyone?
[10:04] <pfifo> moogz, it would work if you went to single user mode, you want rc3.d... no actually you want /etc/init
[10:05] <recognosco> llutz_: sure. it is ubuntu channel afterall. you're right.
[10:05] <ryanyeah> anyone know if it is possible to set up a cron job to download a pdf from a site that you have to first log in to over https? it is surprisingly difficult to google an answer to that question
[10:06] <moogz> i've added it as a line to the /etc/init.d/rc.local script in the hope that'll nail it
[10:06] <pfifo> ryanyeah, yes it is
[10:08] <moogz> i did a &>/root/whatsup and it's a blank file.  i wonder what's going on
[10:08] <moogz> so i know it's executing it, but it's not remaining executed
[10:08] <Django_Novice> hi there
[10:09] <Django_Novice> i want to run a command with sudo in a script....its askin for a password
[10:10] <Django_Novice> is there any chance i could provide password with the command so it shouldnt prompt for password
[10:10] <pfifo> Django_Novice, run the script with sudo
[10:10] <Django_Novice> pfifo: let me try that
[10:11] <parapan> hello everyone I use ubntu 10.04 LTS; after last update, the system starts very low, the HDD light is always flashing and every 10-15 seconds the systems tries to start File Manager which is not opening anyway; also , every 20 seconds the CPU goes 1005 for 2-3 seconds, and this happens all the time .....any clue how can I handle this ???
[10:12] <recognosco> parapan: look at your boot log
[10:12] <parapan> recognosco:
[10:13] <parapan> can I do that ?
[10:13] <parapan> recognosco: how can I do that ?
[10:13] <recognosco> parapan: dmesg | less
[10:15] <chown_> as i understood /etc/fstab is for permanent mounts, and i did that. And those permanent mounts appears on as a Computer drive.  want to know why  its also appearing at the Devices on my files manager: http://uppix.net/6/b/5/f1016566a98895efc189aecda77ba.png
[10:17] <pfifo> chown_, can you pastebin the output of `mount` the file /etc/fstab and the file /etc/mtab
[10:18] <chown_> pfifo: sure
[10:24] <chown_> http://pastebin.com/k968WT9N
[10:24] <chown_> http://pastebin.com/3W8d5ChL
[10:24] <chown_> http://pastebin.com/jv40tb06
[10:24] <chown_> pfifo: there we go
[10:24] <chown_> bwt i what if the mtab?
[10:24] <chown_> what is the mtab*
[10:25] <pokuy> guys what is on the xterm log in
[10:26] <Truepid> can any one tell me about the configuration file that stores default window manager conf
[10:28] <pfifo> chown_, sorry, im not seeing any hints there
[10:28] <chown_> pfifo: ok, np
[10:29] <chown_> pfifo: but would u explain to em whats the diff bwtween fstab and mtab?
[10:30] <pfifo> chown_, from wikipedia The mtab (contraction of mounted file systems table) file is a system information file, commonly found on Unix-like systems. This file lists all currently mounted filesystems along with their initialization options. mtab has a lot in common with fstab, the main distinction being that the latter lists all available filesystems whereas the former lists only currently mounted ones. Therefore mtab is usually in a format similar to that of f
[10:30] <pfifo> stab. Most of the time it is possible to directly use lines from mtab in fstab.
[10:31] <AdvoWork> Hi there, just wondering, does anyone know exactly what sudo apt-get install php5-gd does? i mean, does it literally get the .so and copy it to a dir and change php.ini or what else? how would I ever find that out?
[10:31] <avernos> is it possible to set up doble display?
[10:32] <shruggar> yes
[10:32] <pfifo> AdvoWork, pretty much, it downloads a package containing many files, installs them on your system, and then configures the system as neede
[10:32] <avernos> shruggar, with acceleration, unity and stuff?
[10:32] <AdvoWork> pfifo, i was wondering if I can somehow find out exactly what files etc so I can manually do it
[10:32] <avernos> shruggar, i mean, not as cloned display, as a secondary display
[10:33] <Django_Novice> pfifo: in my situation im running git pull command in the same script....so if i run script with sudo ...git pull command is giving me permission denied error
[10:33] <shruggar> avernos: I have dual-monitor set-up with accelleration using NVidea "TwinView"
[10:33] <pfifo> AdvoWork, you can use dpkg -L <package name> after its installed to list the files in the package, or use apt-file if you dont want to install it first
[10:33] <Django_Novice> pfifo: i cant run script with sudo... so need to provide password with sudo command to avoid password prompt
[10:34] <pfifo> Django_Novice, you can use visudo, to allow yourself to run certian commands without a password
[10:34] <Django_Novice> can i run pkill with visudo???
[10:35] <pfifo> Django_Novice, visudo edits the configuration for sudo
[10:35] <pfifo> Django_Novice, no, but you can make it so sudo doesnt ask for a password when you try to run `sudo pkill`
[10:36] <pfifo> Django_Novice, but in the end, NO you cannot specify a password in the script
[10:36] <Django_Novice> pfifo: so visudo pkill -of will not ask for password??
[10:36] <gr33n7007h> #!/bin/bash/bosh
[10:36] <gr33n7007h> sup!
[10:37] <Django_Novice> pfifo: whats the best way to execute commands in the script??
[10:37] <pfifo> Django_Novice, no that is incorrect, the program visudo is meant to be run by itself. it is a text editor
[10:37] <wadkar> I want to install 'sealert' utility to connect to a setroubleshoot server on a CentOS server
[10:38] <Django_Novice> pfifo: I have a situation where I need to execute few commands plus a git pull.... where git pull would'nt work with sudo
[10:39] <pfifo> wadkar, look in the software center for it and if theres nothing there look for a ppa on launchpad
[10:39] <Django_Novice> pfifo: whats the best possible solutoin???
[10:39] <wadkar> pfifo: thanks, I keep forgetting the software center , used 'apt-cache search' all the time
[10:39] <pfifo> Django_Novice, ideally you dont use sudo in a shell script, the best possible solution is to run your shell script all as one user
[10:40] <pavucina> Hello, I have a problem with downloading packages, is ubuntu server down now?
[10:40] <Django_Novice> pfifo: hmmm i dnt have root privilege and i cnt run git pull with sudo :)
[10:41] <Django_Novice> now what am i supposed to do :)
[10:41] <pfifo> Django_Novice, run git pull without sudo
[10:41] <Django_Novice> pfifo: let me try that
[10:41] <AdvoWork> pfifo, if i do apt-file php5-gd what will that do?
[10:41] <Django_Novice> pfifo: thanks
[10:42] <pavucina> Hello, I have a problem with downloading packages, is ubuntu server down now? please
[10:42] <pfifo> AdvoWork, I dont know
[10:42] <jatt> which server
[10:43] <pavucina> I cant download any package
[10:43] <pavucina> I dont know which server
[10:43] <kalimojo> what is the latest version of ubuntu >?
[10:43] <pavucina> 11.10
[10:43] <pfifo> !11.10 | kalimojo
[10:45] <kalimojo> ok im on 11.10. i thought i saw a reference to 12.04 tho
[10:46] <pfifo> !12.04 | kalimojo
[10:46] <pfifo> it wont be out until april
[10:47] <metaspike> anyone know where the nitty, gritty settings for tap to click functionality are stored for the synaptics standard touchpads?
[10:48] <kalimojo> !12.04
[10:48] <kalimojo> !grep
[10:48] <gr33n7007h> !feh | gr33n7007h
[10:48] <gr33n7007h> !feh
[10:48] <gr33n7007h> uhh!!
[10:48] <jn_> hi how can i determine which sda is my root partition ?
[10:48] <pfifo> metaspike, somewhere in /usr/lib/xorg.conf.d
[10:49] <pfifo> jn_, run `mount`
[10:50] <jn_> ok ty
[10:50] <jn_> did the trick
[10:50] <gr33n7007h> !cut
[10:51] <pfifo> !botabuse | gr33n7007h
[10:53] <AdvoWork> i'm trying to do sudo apt-get install php5-gd but its on about upgrading other packages. Can I not just say just do that and nothing else?
[10:55] <drcode> hi all
[10:55] <drcode> how can I remove linux-image-pae and replace it with regular image?
[10:55] <chown_> what should i do if i create some script and it has a sudo command in there, how should i handle it?
[10:55] <drcode> any idea please?
[10:55] <pfifo> AdvoWork, you can download the package and install it manually with dpkg, forcing it and ignoring dependencies, but thats a BAD idea
[10:56] <damo22> pfifo: one way is to do apt-get install --no-recommends
[10:56] <pfifo> drcode, sudo apt-get install <prefered image here>
[10:56] <drcode> I did
[10:56] <drcode> but it still using pae image
[10:56] <AdvoWork> pfifo, i need to install php5-gd but can't/dont want to upgrade anything else php related :S
[10:56] <AdvoWork> why is it a bad idea?
[10:57] <pfifo> drcode, well now you can `sudo apt-get remove <old image here>`
[10:57] <damo22> drcode: boot into the new kernel using grub, and remove the old kernel
[10:57] <pfifo> AdvoWork, because it likely will not run correctly
[10:57] <drcode> I can run both images?
[10:57] <drcode> what is the regualr image?
[10:57] <damo22> drcode: it will let you have both on your system but only one runs at a time
[10:58] <drcode> ok
[10:58] <drcode> the regular is generic?
[10:58] <pfifo> AdvoWork, thats why I build php from scratch and all of its extras too, thats the only way to get any real control over it
[10:58] <damo22> drcode, pae is for systems with more than 4Gb ram and allows physical address extension cpu stuff
[10:59] <drcode> ok
[10:59] <drcode> thanx
[10:59] <drcode> I will try it
[10:59] <drcode> thanx
[10:59] <FloodBot1> drcode: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:59] <drcode> thanx
[11:04] <jp> hello. Yesterday my Huawei E1762 worked normally. Today, when i started my ubuntu, my network manager cant find it..
[11:05] <jp> i use ubuntu 10.04. Does i need to reinstall network manager or something
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> jp is that a usb 3g stick?
[11:06] <jp> yes
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> ok, tou may need an extra module, moment
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> usb-switch or so
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> jp  you need usb-modeswitch, to be installed the normal way
[11:07] <jp> ok
[11:08] <jp> how that gonna do?
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> how you insatll any other program
[11:08] <jp> thanks :)
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> apt-get install, or synaptic, or software center
[11:15] <Starn> can the USB installer of ubuntu 11.10 x64 detect unallocated hard drive space?
[11:16] <jmoerk> Starn: yes, if you mean it can detect an empty partition
[11:16] <Starn> jmoerk: i believe so.. i had to use windows partitioner to shrink a hard drive made an empty partition thats 240gb for ubuntu.
[11:17] <jmoerk> should be fine then :)
[11:17] <Starn> well 234.38gb to be exact my math was off by a hair lol
[11:17] <jmoerk> I did something similar
[11:17] <jmoerk> :P
[11:18] <Starn> well jmoerk  i decided to not remove my ubuntu install on my 160gb external for i often use it to repair broken bootmgr and windows stuff.. (repairs computers as a side job) and it's 32bit.. i want a 64bit for my new machine has over 4gb of ram.
[11:19] <Starn> jmoerk: i am correct to keep the 32bit for it's mor compatible with most all hardware?
[11:19] <parapan> hello everyone I use ubntu 10.04 LTS; after last update, the system starts very low, the HDD light is always flashing and every 10-15 seconds the systems tries to start File Manager which is not opening anyway; also , every 20 seconds the CPU goes 1005 for 2-3 seconds, and this happens all the time .....any clue how can I handle this ???
[11:19] <Guest23850> ciao
[11:19] <Guest23850> !list
[11:20] <bilal03> hello there,
[11:21] <TechDesk> Hi all
[11:21] <TechDesk> It's true then the last version of ubuntu cannot boot avec grub legacy ?
[11:21] <TechDesk> Or the kernel on last version of ubuntu
[11:21] <TechDesk> of*
[11:22] <jmoerk> Starn: I don't know really, I'm not an expert on what versions goes with which hardware, all I can say is I still havent found something I couldn't do with my 64bit system
[11:22] <bilal03> i can't change my resolution to standard ( its 1440x900 for my LCD). In Display properties it cannot detect my monitor any resolution stuck on 1024x768. i'm using ubuntu 11.10... any idea about this???
[11:23] <bilal03> i can't change my resolution to standard ( its 1440x900 for my LCD). In Display properties it cannot detect my monitor and resolution stuck on 1024x768. i'm using ubuntu 11.10... any idea about this???
[11:23] <pfifo> Starn, yes 32bit version of ubuntu support more hardware, namely 32bit CPUs
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> Starn  32bit can be run on both 32 and 64bit hardware - 64bit can be run on 64bit only
[11:26] <TechDesk> It's true then the last version of ubuntu cannot boot avec grub legacy ?
[11:26] <pfifo> TechDesk, why not try it and find out?
[11:27] <bilal03> hello0o0o
[11:27] <chown_> how do i disable gnome auto mount?
[11:27] <TechDesk> pfifo Parce que des gens ne me croient pas
[11:27] <chown_> i think its cousing this: http://uppix.net/6/b/5/f1016566a98895efc189aecda77ba.png
[11:27] <TechDesk> oups
[11:28] <TechDesk> pfifo Because people do not believe me
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> TechDesk  "If you run an older Ubuntu or had any trouble with Grub 2 then Grub Legacy & Lilo are still available." -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Grub
[11:28] <Starn> pfifo: MonkeyDust: ok so it'd be best to keep my 32bit install on the external for computer repairs than.
[11:29] <Starn> well i gtg to install my new ubuntu onto my internal hard drive :) bbl
[11:29] <parapan> hello everyone I use ubntu 10.04 LTS; after last update, the system starts very low, the HDD light is always flashing and every 10-15 seconds the systems tries to start File Manager which is not opening anyway; also , every 20 seconds the CPU goes 1005 for 2-3 seconds, and this happens all the time .....any clue how can I handle this ???
[11:29] <bilal03>  i can't change my resolution to standard ( its 1440x900 for my LCD). In Display properties it cannot detect my monitor and resolution stuck on 1024x768. i'm using ubuntu 11.10... any idea about this???
[11:30] <metaspike> bilal03, it's likely that you are lacking the additional drivers required by your graphics card
[11:31] <Kartagis> do you guys know of a broken link checker for websites behind CAS?
[11:31] <pfifo> parapan, can you explain the part where your CPU goes 1005?
[11:31] <karthick87> How to use data card in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[11:31] <bilal03> metaspike, its just intel Q965 built in graphics
[11:31] <operatorplik> how to change the display to view xp linux
[11:31] <bilal03> metaspike, it was running perfect since last time i boot
[11:32] <parapan> pfifo: 100%
[11:32] <karthick87> How to use internet data card in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[11:32] <bilal03> metaspike, but now i can't change resolution
[11:32] <Kartagis> karthick87: you mean ethernet?
[11:32] <pfifo> parapan, run top and figure out which process is consuming all your CPU
[11:32] <metaspike> bilal03, in terminal- jockey-gtk
[11:32] <karthick87> Kartagis: USB
[11:33] <parapan> pfifo: problem is that if HDD is accessed all time, every single operation takes forever ...
[11:34] <pfifo> parapan, reinstall
[11:34] <pokuy>  guys do you know the link of tron themes
[11:34] <bilal03> metaspike, No proprietary drivers are in use in your system
[11:34] <parapan> pfifo:
[11:35] <parapan> Ok, that will be the option > I just imagine I can save something out
[11:35] <parapan> pfifo:
[11:35] <mi3> Hello everyone
[11:35] <parapan> pfofi: any ideea how to backup the e-mails from Evolution client ?
[11:35] <metaspike> bilal03, are you running ati or nividia perhaps?
[11:36] <bilal03> metaspike,  no just built in intel graphics
[11:36] <pfifo> parapan, when you run the install CD, mount your hard drive and copy /home to a safe place befoer installing
[11:36] <metaspike> eh, does the resolution you show with: xrandr ?
[11:36] <ponrajuganesh> how to set the X11 eviroment variable ? whey tried to running a java code in the ssh evironment I am not able to get the output , could anyone pls help
[11:37] <pfifo> ponrajuganesh, run "ssh -XC"
[11:37] <bilal03> metaspike,  i dont know
[11:37] <pfifo> ponrajuganesh, you might want to use jre-headless too
[11:38] <mi3> I have a problem with updating my sources from the terminal there is a hash mismatch or something I dont know can you suggest whats wrong? http://pastebin.com/pJn3A1Uc
[11:38] <erinaceus> Hi, i have a quick question. I create a usergroup www and gave it ownership of /var/www, i added my account to that group and changed the group rights to rwx but still cant create files. What did i miss?
[11:38] <ponrajuganesh> dint get u pfifo where to run so?
[11:38] <parapan> pfifo: K, I can do that but ...the .Evolution folder will contain all the messages in order to import them afterward ????
[11:39] <pfifo> parapan, then when your done, copy /home back to your system
[11:40] <pfifo> ponrajuganesh, I dont understand what your saying
[11:40] <parapan> pfifo: just that easy ? copy old /home folder on top of the new one ??
[11:40] <casa> ciao a tutti
[11:40] <casa> ci sono italiani ?
[11:41] <pfifo> parapan, ideally you use a seperate partition for /home
[11:41] <mi3> I have a problem with updating my sources from the terminal there is a hash mismatch or something I dont know can you suggest whats wrong? http://pastebin.com/pJn3A1Uc
[11:41] <casa> amsn and webcam non function
[11:41] <ROBADINOIA> <--- secondo te son italiano?
[11:41] <casa> help me
[11:41] <chown_> something is trying to mount all my /etc/fstab twice
[11:41] <casa> mi sa di si
[11:41] <casa> roba
[11:41] <casa> :-D
[11:41] <parapan> pfifo: I managed to see some process - some times /usr/bin/X si taking 40-50% of the CPU, some times /usr/bin/python is going CPU to 99%
[11:42] <mi3> ??
[11:42] <ROBADINOIA> ma nn ti so aiutare con quello che hai chiesto
[11:42] <erinaceus> Anyone?
[11:42] <casa> pensi di potermi dare una mano di aiuto ?
[11:42] <casa> ah ok
[11:42] <casa> allora niente
[11:42] <Myrtti> !it | ROBADINOIA
[11:42] <ponrajuganesh> I have got a jar file what uses a GUI, it is present in the solris machine? I try runnning it from the terminal in the ubuntu but getting this error as X11 not set .. am I making myself clear pfifo
[11:42] <pfifo> ponrajuganesh, install X11 on your solaris machine
[11:43] <ponrajuganesh> it is installed pfifo
[11:44] <mi3> I have a problem with updating my sources from the terminal there is a hash mismatch or something I dont know can you suggest whats wrong? http://pastebin.com/pJn3A1Uc
[11:44] <bilal03> hi guyz... i can't change my resolution to standard ( its 1440x900 for my LCD). In Display properties it cannot detect my monitor and resolution stuck on 1024x768. i'm using ubuntu 11.10... any idea about this???
[11:44] <Myrtti> ponrajuganesh: so how does your Solaris problem relate to Ubuntu? What's the connection?
[11:44] <pfifo> ponrajuganesh, connect to the solaris machine with "ssh -XC <hostname>"
[11:45] <ponrajuganesh> ya trying that pfifo
[11:45] <erinaceus> Hi, i have a quick question. I create a usergroup www and gave it ownership of /var/www, i added my account to that group and changed the group rights to rwx but still cant create files. What did i miss?
[11:45] <parapan> pfifo: I managed to see some process - some times /usr/bin/X si taking 40-50% of the CPU, some times /usr/bin/python is going CPU to 99% - is this telling something to you ??
[11:45] <pfifo> parapan, what are you running in python?
[11:46] <TechDesk> erinaceus relog
[11:46] <parapan> pfifo: I think it has to do with the update process
[11:47] <Fireballin> Sup all, i am trying to duel linux with Win 7 but before the gui starts it locks  up and i can see where it says "unable to Mount Image
[11:47] <erinaceus> TechDesk: Thanks, worked like a charm
[11:47] <TechDesk> :)
[11:47] <chown_> what is this line at my fstab ::   proc    /proc     proc    nodev,noexec,nosuid  ?
[11:47] <pfifo> parapan, can you find out the name of the process that is taking up all the CPU?
[11:48] <parapan> pfifo: just now, nautilus was taking 200% of the CPU ....but then is dissapearing and I cannot kill the process ...looks like a ghost process or so ...
[11:48] <bilal03> hi guyz... i can't change my resolution to standard ( its 1440x900 for my LCD). In Display properties it cannot detect my monitor and resolution stuck on 1024x768. i'm using ubuntu 11.10... any idea about this???
[11:49] <pfifo> parapan, it sounds like you broke your system while updating, reinstall
[11:50] <parapan> pfifo: I was afraid of that ..I updated via USB modem and probably I had errors when downloading ....:(
[11:50] <pfifo> parapan, update more often
[11:50] <pfifo> nightly
[11:50] <ponrajuganesh> thanks a lot pfifo
[11:50] <ponrajuganesh> got it :)
[11:50] <Starn> hey the new installer for ubuntu/xubuntu is way different than the last time i used.. i have two hard drives.. both 500gb used windows partition manager to make 240gb partition for ubuntu/xubuntu  will ubuntu installer automatically detect the smallest partition so to speak and install on that?
[11:51] <pfifo> Starn, be safe and partition manually
[11:51] <parapan> pfifo: do you have any clue about evolution mail client if they have a support channel on freenode ??
[11:51] <Starn> so don't used install alongside them?
[11:51] <pfifo> !alis evolution
[11:52] <Fireballin> Sup all, i am trying to duel linux with Win 7 but before the gui starts it locks  up and i can see where it says "unable to Mount Image
[11:52] <wadkar> 'sudo apt-cache search setroubleshoot' yields nothing (please don't redirect me to Software Center) , google results show that package is there, what am I missing?
[11:52] <pfifo> !alis | parapan
[11:52] <Starn> if not in manual is suggest swap size for 4gb or ram 4gb swap?
[11:52] <jmoerk> Starn: I'm pretty sure it selects the free one, but there should be an option for seeing which one is being used if I remember correctly
[11:53] <pfifo> Starn, the recommended amount of swap for a system with 4GB of memory is 8GB
[11:53] <parapan> pfifo: Ok, thank you for support
[11:53] <Starn> pfifo: ok thanks.. do you know the exact number for 8gb? i only remember 4292 to be 4gb..
[11:54] <Starn> jmoerk: the install alongside them option should detect the "free space" and install in that?
[11:54] <pfifo> Starn, 8589934592 bytes
[11:54] <babilen> Starn: 8192 and 4gb would be 4096
[11:54] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys, how can I stop *all* programs that run full screen from crashing? (running oneiric, netbook w/ 1280x576)
[11:54] <jmoerk> Starn: exactly
[11:55] <casa> come rientro in ubuntu italia ?
[11:55] <LjL> casa: /join #Ubuntu-it
[11:56] <Starn> jmoerk: i see there is ext 4 now.. that's suggest to use?  (can you tell it's been awhile?)
[11:56] <Starn> jmoerk: btw i am manually setting it up..
[11:57] <pfifo> Starn, ext4 is really nice, almost instant fsck
[11:57] <patrunjel> Hi. I have some files with names in the format : Whatever_name.flac, and I want to change then into The_same_name.mp3 . I tried piping ls to mv, a for statement, and piping ls to a variable and then renaming the files after the variable. Everything failed :D . Could you please help me out?
[11:58] <Starn> pfifo: ok. i'll use that! lol ok how does this sound to you?  /dev/sdb5 swap 8192mb    /dev/sdb6 ext4  /  243.4gb   the / after ext4 is mount point.
[11:58] <pfifo> patrunjel, ls *.falc | sed 's/flac/mp3/'  THEN copy and paste its ouput
[11:59] <jmoerk> Starn: seems fine to me
[11:59] <pfifo> Starn, meh, i would use a single partition and then add a swapfile instead
[11:59] <jmoerk> hehe
[11:59] <pfifo> patrunjel, notice i misspelled the first flac
[12:00] <Starn> pfifo: woo i don't know if this is a new option or now.. but it's letting me choose which device to put bootloader.. should i use the one that is the same device as windows OS? for i intend to restore windows boot loader and adding ubuntu to the list.. in case grub fails (which my luck it has done so with every install i have had)
[12:01] <Starn> pfifo: i prefer to make a partition for a swap. i even do that for windows.
[12:02] <pfifo> patrunjel, sorry, i didnt give you enough command there, run 'ls *.flac | sed 's/\(.*\)flac/mv "\1flac" "\1mp3"/'
[12:03] <pfifo> Starn, have fun resizing the amout of swap you have :)
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> patrunjel  flac is not mp3, does renaming the files convert them?
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> patrunjel  flac is 'free lossless oudio codec' - mp3 is not lossless, it is compressed
[12:04] <Starn> jmoerk: did you read what i said to pfifo ?  if my bios is set to load /dev/sda  first that would leave windows boot manager alone correct? that is if i placed the bootloader on /dev/sdb ? and than i could boot into grub just by going to bios boot menu selecting second hard drive vs going through windows manager or grub.. w/e... i am confusing my self.
[12:04] <zainw> morning all
[12:05] <jmoerk> Starn: I really don't know, I always just use grub as the bootloader
[12:05] <pfifo> Starn, yes you can install grub on a different device and then boot from it via the boot menu
[12:05] <Starn> pfifo: i rarely resize the swap partition. and if i ever need to i can do so easily by taking space from the ntfs partition on the same hard drive.. it's currently 500gb hard drive that's empty.
[12:05] <jmoerk> pfifo has a point though, a swap file is easier to resize
[12:06] <Starn> pfifo: thanks and jmoerk thanks as well that'll kinda make it easier for me.. i don't mind holding down esc key when bios loads up to get to linux. been doing so anyways
[12:06] <hobbelt> anyone tried an Ubuntu / OSx / Windows dualboot?
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> !anyone
[12:06] <hobbelt> so a trippleboot :)
[12:06] <pfifo> hobbelt, you can multi-boot just as easy as dual boot
[12:06] <Starn> hobbelt: i've never used mac... but i use to have xp vista and ubuntu and another linux distro on the same machine.
[12:07] <fireballin> Sup all, i am trying to duel boot linux with Win 7 but before the gui starts it locks  up and i can see where it says "unable to Mount Image" i am not really new to linux just new to the whole win 7 thing so not sure what is happening
[12:07] <hobbelt> Starn I have Win 7 and Ubuntu atm, that works perfectly (it always has) but will probably ruin Grub with OSx install, if it works at all
[12:07] <Klojum> I'm using a tripleboot on my laptop currently... WinXP / Ubuntu 11.10 / OpenELEC
[12:08] <pfifo> fireballin, do you use uefi?
[12:08] <hobbelt> Just need iMovie, but dont think it will run in vmware
[12:08] <fireballin> no
[12:08] <Starn> hobbelt: gah i miss my win7.... i had a poweroutage which kinda destroyed the hard drive with win7! now i am stuck with xp for speed (games) ubuntu for awesome stuff and dev.. and vista for audio work..  i hear mac os
[12:09] <zainw> morning all, is there any one that could help me with a question please about installing 11.10 on a dell R610 server please?
[12:09] <Starn> hobbelt: i hear mac os's are great for picture and audio and video editing if you got the money
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| zainw
[12:09] <hobbelt> Got free students lisence on al OS :)
[12:09] <anoob> i've created a bootable usb device with LiLi USB Creator. I've disabled everything except removable device in bios but it doesn't boot at all. I don't have a CD driver and I want to install Ubuntu ...
[12:09] <yun> need ubuntu server.. (french)
[12:09] <Starn> hobbelt: that's very nice! that is how i got my win7..
[12:09] <hobbelt> same here :)
[12:10] <hobbelt> alright, ill just try and be sure to keep a livedisc close
[12:11] <Starn> hobbelt: to be honest it was my friend who went to college... and he gave me his copy.. he had unlimited access to any os on as many machines as he wanted... (super jealous) but anyways this isn't the place to have general chat.. um.. i believe you should of installed windows mac than ubuntu...
[12:12] <hobbelt> Starn yes, thats true with windows.. but i know a livedisc can fix that with bootfix or something like that.
[12:12] <Starn> hobbelt: if mac os screws anything up i can tell you how to restore the windows boot loader which can be setup just like grub.
[12:12] <zainw> I'll admit to being a completely noob with Ubuntu, Centos im not too bad with. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 on a dell R610 server with a H200 Raid card and 2 x 250gb in raid 1. All goes well, everything installs ok, reboot and hey presto... It wont boot in to ubuntu. There is no grub screen, nothing
[12:13] <hobbelt> zainw you booting the right disc?
[12:13] <Starn> i suck at using grub hobbelt so please don't ask anything about that directed to me.. i'll probably further break your os.. haha
[12:14] <zainw> used the guided setup with in the installer to set all that up. it did ask to use MBR so said yes
[12:14] <hobbelt> zainw or partition the right way? raid1 requires you to manual select the right partition properties as far as I recall
[12:14] <zainw> in fairness, it didnt give me the option to choose which disk
[12:14] <Starn> hey on ubuntu install when it ask where are you.. whats the closest place to oklahoma city? so i can have the currect time?
[12:15] <hobbelt> Starn just pick something within your time zone
[12:15] <Starn> nvm.. hobbelt i found oklahoma city.. doubt you can get closer than that.. haha!
[12:15] <hobbelt> ;)
[12:15] <hobbelt> zainw i would look into the advanced installation guides for raid setups
[12:16] <hobbelt> zainw --> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html
[12:16] <Starn> holy crap.. they finally actually added my town to list of locations! i might faint..
[12:18] <zainw> in theory, a live cd should get me in to the system as it stands shouldnt it? dont mind wiping everything again if needed as its a new install
[12:18] <pfifo> zainw, is your card a fakeraid?
[12:19] <P1rate> hi :)
[12:19] <fireballin> maybe someone else might have an answer as to why when attepmting to dual-boot ubuntu from USB drive with Win 7 it locks up and says "Unable to Mount Image"
[12:20] <zainw> nope, its a proper hardware H200 from Dell
[12:20] <hobbelt> fireballin does it say more?
[12:20] <pfifo> zainw, then the advanced installation isnt for you
[12:21] <zainw> its all about the software raid from the looks of it
[12:21] <pfifo> ... atleast not for setting up thye raid
[12:21] <hobbelt> pfifo but then it should work out of the box..
[12:21] <fireballin> no
[12:21] <zainw> i would have thought that the installer would have just done it like centos does lol
[12:22] <pfifo> hobbelt, a realraid will simply look like a single drive, and doesnt require any additional drivers or software
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> zainw  centos is redhat based, no?
[12:22] <zainw> correct
[12:24] <fireballin> hobbelt, no it doesn't
[12:24] <hobbelt> fireballin is it a mountable usb drive? or did you just put the iso on the usb?
[12:24] <Zaitzev> I'm running a windows program  in wine, but it doesn't show in the dash, nor is it visible using Alt+Tab. Why is that? oO
[12:25] <fireballin> hobbelt, it is mountable this will be the 3rd or forth install from this drive
[12:29] <ubuntu> oh hi
[12:29] <ubuntu> is this on
[12:30] <fireballin> yes
[12:30] <ubuntu> hello :P
[12:30] <fireballin> hobbelt, any ideas?
[12:30] <fireballin> :L)
[12:30] <ubuntu> can anyone help me
[12:30] <Starn> be right back install is done.
[12:31] <fireballin> ubuntu, ask away
[12:31] <hobbelt> fireballin well, try to hash check the iso on the stick, it might be corrupt if you have used it a couple of times. After all is flash memory..
[12:31] <ubuntu> will installing ubuntu delete my windows xp i have?
[12:31] <hobbelt> ubuntu if you install it on the same partition yes
[12:31] <hobbelt> So just dont to that
[12:31] <ubuntu> oh thx
[12:31] <fireballin> ubuntu, no in the installer is an option the install aloongside
[12:32] <hobbelt> ubuntu you could even try the wubi installer the first time
[12:32] <fireballin> hobbelt, ok i will try that
[12:32] <fireballin> ty :)
[12:32] <ubuntu> i have ubuntu 11.10 instalation on my usb stick
[12:33] <mdl4> hey all
[12:33] <mdl4> what's good
[12:34] <ubuntu> ok im going to install it from usb :)
[12:34] <zainw> so no more thoughts as to why cant boot with MBR on this raid then folks? this install seriously to bug me as it never errors or anything :(
[12:35] <Amoz> zainw, when you install, does it look like one disk?
[12:35] <zainw> yes it does
[12:35] <Amoz> the RAID I mean
[12:35] <Amoz> k
[12:36] <Amoz> and you use the alternate installer, ubuntu-server?
[12:36] <zainw> just gives me the 255gb disk then i use guided with lvm or with out
[12:36] <zainw> using the ubuntu 11.10 setup disk
[12:36] <Amoz> zainw, which one?
[12:36] <zainw> have tried 10.04, 11.04 and now 11.10 so must be something im missing
[12:37] <Amoz> zainw, is it for a server?
[12:37] <pfifo> zainw, are you using lvm or not?
[12:37] <zainw> yes Amoz
[12:37] <nodestool> where does zsh put the config files for autocomplate?
[12:37] <Amoz> zainw, and you're using the 11.10 server image?
[12:38] <zainw> its the 3rd cd I've downloaded fromthe ubuntu site just in case the others were faulty
[12:38] <zainw> its server 11.10
[12:38] <Pici> nodestool: /usr/share/zsh/functions/Completion/ would be a good place to start, as well as the zsh documentation.
[12:39] <Amoz> zainw, have you tried something else than guided installation?
[12:39] <hubx> hey, I recently upgraded to 12.04. Now if I plug in my external screen (Dell 24") I can't use the screen of my notebook. (xrandr shows correctly configured VGA1 and LVDS1, so I guess its a driver problem)
[12:39] <Amoz> for example setting up partitions and bootloader yourself?
[12:39] <zainw> Amoz, not yet
[12:39] <nodestool> Thanks Pici
[12:39] <tomreyn> is it possible to use gnome3 applets with xfce4?
[12:39] <hubx> what information should I include in the bugreport
[12:39] <Amoz> hubx, depends what you're reporting for
[12:40] <Amoz> zainw, might help to have a little more control of the installation
[12:41] <hubx> Amoz, " I recently upgraded to 12.04. Now if I plug in my external screen (Dell 24") I can't use the screen of my notebook. (xrandr shows correctly configured VGA1 and LVDS1, so I guess its a driver problem)"
[12:41] <sacarlson> zainw: maybe there's an option to disable the internal raid in bios?  run then normal?  if so maybe you can setup a software raid in ubuntu
[12:41] <auronandace> !12.04 | hubx
[12:41] <zainw> Amoz, in what way
[12:41] <hubx> auronandace, ty
[12:42] <Amoz> zainw, maybe the guided installer does something stupid
[12:42] <Amoz> sometimes its better to do it the manual way
[12:43] <Amoz> zainw, what happens after installation when you try to boot?
[12:44] <zainw> Amoz, sorry on the phone
[12:45] <sacarlson> amoz: zainw: maybe if it's just an mbr problem he could try add a 3rd disk just for the mbr to isolate if that's the problem,  like just use a usb flash as the mbr to try
[12:47] <Amoz> sacarlson, zainw after install, maybe you could boot up the live cd and explore the disk for partitions etc. see if everything is there as it should. Also you can reinstall MBR from the live usb
[12:48] <zainw> Sorry about that guys
[12:48] <thoong> when is the next release after 11.10? current iso is a bit wonky on my system.
[12:49] <Amoz> thoong, 12.04 in april
[12:49] <thoong> thanks save me from burning it
[12:49] <Amoz> thoong, you know you can use an usb, right?
[12:49] <graziano> !list
[12:49] <thoong> yeah but kinda old school
[12:50] <zainw> Amoz, have booted with the livecd at present and in fairness, its sees the 255gb drive but there is very little on there that i would recognise as being anywhere close to how it should look etc
[12:50] <sacarlson> amoz: zainw: I agree should be able to mount and explore the attempted install with the livecd, my guess is it fails to mount in grub
[12:50] <starn> how do i setup irssi to auto connect to two servers? example freenode and efnet.  and have auto identify for freenode plus auto join channels?
[12:51] <Amoz> starn, have you tried the irssi documentation?
[12:51] <bdrewery_> starn: offtopic, #irssi, setup multiple networks.
[12:51] <zainw> sacarlson, it wont even show me the grub screen if i font use the live cd
[12:52] <Amoz> zainw, what happens then?
[12:52] <Amoz> zainw, most computer usually say something if it can't find an operating system om disk etc
[12:52] <zainw> Amoz, when i try and boot with out the live cd?
[12:52] <Amoz> yes
[12:53] <tomreyn> hi, is it possible to use gnome3 applets with xfce4? i'm trying to get the gnome-invest applet working with xfce. the normal way to do this seems to be using xfapplet, but this was since removed off oneiric (which i'm running).
[12:53] <zainw> amoz, Nothing, the server does its loading of hardware as in loads raid setup, loads network, loads iDrac card then it SHOULD load the mbr but it doesnt, it just stops dead in its tracks
[12:54] <zainw> If i leave the boot from other devices on such as network etc, says that there is no bootable system
[12:54] <starn> i have looked a the documentations some.. but i don't remember anything they said.. plus i need to finish update and installing video drivers before i go to a website for everything is super hard to see atm..
[12:54] <auronandace> tomreyn: i thought xfapplet was for getting gnome2 applets working (it wouldn't work with gnome3 applets) thats why it was removed (because gnome2 was removed)
[12:55] <sacarlson> zainw: but can you explore the attepted install with a livecd to see if the files are there that we would expect to see?
[12:56] <Amoz> zainw, +1. Just see if /boot/grub is there etc
[12:56] <tomreyn> auronandace: yes i think you're right there. so how would i get gnome3 applets working in xfce4, if that's possible?
[12:56] <georgieee> My internal card reader (connected via internal USB) only works sometimes. Ubuntu recognizes it properly:
[12:56] <georgieee> "Bus 001 Device 007: ID 058f:6362 Alcor Micro Corp. Flash Card Reader/Writer"
[12:56] <Amoz> zainw, I assume you checked BIOS settings, tried resetting it etc. ?
[12:56] <georgieee> The inbuilt bluetooth is working out of box and without problems.
[12:57] <georgieee> I tried to load "usb_storage" but it doesn't help. Seeing my card reader working is still just a matter of luck. Many other threads show me, that this is a main issue:
[12:57] <FloodBot1> georgieee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:57] <auronandace> tomreyn: i doubt you can yet, xfce has yet to transition to gtk3 (the next xfce release 4.10 will be the last gtk2 release)
[12:57] <zainw> Amoz, sarcalson, the only thing that i can see there is what could poss be the /boot section as its only 255mb and thats it
[12:57] <georgieee> Can someone help?
[12:58] <tomreyn> thanks for explaning, auronandace
[12:58] <auronandace> tomreyn: no worries :)
[12:58] <zainw> Amoz, as for the bios, yeh done all that stuff, even rebuilt the raid last night just to me sure i wasnt being a complete pleb
[12:58] <Amoz> zainw, 255mb?
[12:58] <Amoz> possibly?
[12:59] <yun> join/
[12:59] <zainw> amoz, Yes, 255mb so guess its the /boot partition on the drive
[12:59] <Amoz> zainw, why don't you mount it and explore it when you're in the live session?
[12:59] <Amoz> zainw, where do you see this 255mb ?
[12:59] <sacarlson> Amoz: zainw: wouldn't we also see /home ; /var and a few other things?  like it didn't fully install or it puts that on another partition your not looking at
[13:00] <zainw> Amoz, its down in the "Devices" section when open up the home folder
[13:00] <Amoz> zainw, that's the live usb then?
[13:01] <Amoz> zainw, doesn't it find the partitions on disk then?
[13:01] <zainw> Amoz, well no, i dont think it is as there is a filesytem which when explored, its spins up the cd. I've used a CD rather than usb to boot from
[13:01] <zainw> Amoz, its looking that way yes
[13:01] <Amoz> zainw, oh
[13:02] <zainw> its all really  strange lol
[13:02] <Amoz> zainw, well in that case we need to find out why it doesn't sho
[13:02] <Amoz> w
[13:03] <User111> im trying to mount my time capsule in lubuntu, but my command that once worked, doesnt work now when i reinstalled ubuntu, any ideas?  command is "sudo mount.cifs //10.10.1.5/TIMECAPSULE/ /media/mounted -o pass=somepass"
[13:03] <sacarlson> zainw: amoz: so fdisk -l or whatever is later version won't even see any other disks?
[13:03] <zainw> Amoz, if that 255mb section is the /boot patition, shouldnt there be a grub list file on there or something?
[13:03] <Amoz> zainw, what you're exploring is the mounted cd
[13:03] <Amoz> zainw, most probably
[13:04] <klaus> !list
[13:04] <Amoz> zainw, can you pastebin sudo lshw -c disk ?
[13:05] <Amoz> zainw, that shows me my physical disk at least
[13:05] <klaus> !help
[13:05] <georgieee> does someone else have problems with card readers?
[13:05] <Amoz> maybe doesn't work for RAID systems, i dunno
[13:05] <Dave-Maydew> Have tried the Mouveau but does not work
[13:05] <georgieee> does ubuntu actually recognizes card readers?
[13:06] <zainw> Amoz, just looking for a terminal on the live... not used to this setup LOL
[13:06] <zainw> Im sorry, makes me sound like a right pleb
[13:06] <pfifo> georgieee, hardware support in linux can be hit or miss
[13:06] <Amoz> zainw, ctrl+alt+t
[13:06] <User111> well, actually i believe my command still works, cifs says its connected, but the folders doesnt show, any ideas?
[13:07] <sacarlson> georgieee: I have a cardreader that works on ubuntu,  but that doesn't mean they all work
[13:07] <zainw> oh wait got it
[13:07] <georgieee> sacarlson, which modules did you load in /etc/modules?
[13:08] <klaus> t
[13:08] <sacarlson> georgieee: it was plug and play,  I don't have any mem sticks to try to test it now
[13:08] <Dave-Maydew> is there actually a fix for the Nvidia GeForceFX cards in Ubuntu 11,04 and 11,10?
[13:08] <KM0201> whats wrong with them?
[13:08] <georgieee> hm... ok thx
[13:08] <zainw> Amoz, it sees everything there when i do that lshw command
[13:08] <zainw> what would you like to know
[13:09] <Amoz>  zainw that means the hardware is recognized
[13:09] <zainw> ah ok then
[13:09] <Dave-Maydew> Ubuntu 11.04 and 11,10 doesn't work with GeForce FX Cards
[13:09] <Amoz> zainw, now check lsblk
[13:09] <josef_> The Nvidia card works very well in Linux Mint but on Ubuntu 11.x problems with dual display
[13:09] <Amoz> zainw, that should list block devices orsomething
[13:10] <georgieee> My card reader is only working sometimes. If it worked it might be (for some reason) disabled the next time. It is connected via internal USB
[13:10] <georgieee> if somebody knows what this issue could be connected too I would be glad
[13:10] <zainw> Amoz, it does
[13:10] <Amoz> zainw, pastebin it for us to see
[13:10] <Dave-Maydew> I aint running Dual Display I have a Sony VGC-V2M all in one media PC
[13:10] <Amoz> zainw, that way we can see a lot more information
[13:10] <Dave-Maydew> So how do I get it running??
[13:11] <zainw> hang on then and let me come in from that box as im on another pc at present
[13:11] <sacarlson> georgieee: I have had some intermitent problems with some mem sticks but I thought it was a hardware problem,  sometimes after I clean the connectors on the sticks it seems to work
[13:12] <zainw> brb
[13:12] <MagusAgnus> guys, besides kleopatra, is there any program for managing crypto files?
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> MagusAgnus  seahorse, i guess
[13:13] <zainw> OK Guys im back, how do you want me to paste or what would you like me to paste?
[13:13] <sacarlson> amoz: zainw: now that he see's the partitions with lshw I guess he can mount and see what's in them?
[13:13] <bazhang> Dave-Maydew, whats the exact model
[13:13] <Amoz> sacarlson, should be possible
[13:14] <Amoz> sacarlson, we'll see if it really is the blockdevices on disk though
[13:14] <Amoz> could be just the cd
[13:14] <bazhang> sacarlson, you mean fdisk -l correct?
[13:14] <Amoz> thats why i want a pastebin
[13:14] <zainw> Amoz, how do you want that pastebin thingy?
[13:14] <sacarlson> bazhang: yes but lshw  returned what was needed for that
[13:15] <Amoz> zainw, pastebin the output from lsblk
[13:15] <Amoz> and from: ls /dev | grep sd
[13:16] <Amoz> !pastebin
[13:16] <Amoz> !pastebin | zainw
[13:17] <Sph3r3> Good Morning - is anyone awake?
[13:18] <bazhang> Sph3r3, ubuntu support issue?
[13:18] <sacarlson> Sph3r3: well it's getting later here so we will soon be going to sleep
[13:18] <zainw> Amoz, im sorry for asking and feeling really special here but how or what do i do to get the pastebin thingy
[13:18] <jnsl> im trying to reinstall grub from live cd i have mounted my root partition and chrooted it, now iam unsure what install_device i should feed grub-install
[13:18] <Amoz> !pastebin | zainw
[13:18] <Sph3r3> bazhang - yes.  installed IDLE on a new ubunutu install, when I go to save it says I don't have permission
[13:19] <zainw> oh just that?
[13:19] <sacarlson> zainw: sudo apt-get install pastbinit
[13:19] <Sph3r3> PyPe does the same thing
[13:19] <sacarlson> opps
[13:19] <Amoz> zainw, waa
[13:19] <Amoz> the bot isn't working
[13:19] <Amoz> paste.ubuntu.com
[13:19] <sacarlson> zainw: sudo apt-get install pastebinit  I think
[13:19] <Amoz> zainw, put it in there and link it here
[13:19] <bazhang> pastebinit is the package zainw
[13:19] <zainw> Lol im sorry for being such a noob with ubuntu LOL
[13:19] <Amoz> zainw, pastebin has nothing to do with ubuntu though
[13:19] <zainw> gotcha
[13:19] <user1> hi, i installed ubuntu 10.04 LTS but there is no gui, pls help me.
[13:20] <Amoz> user1, how did you install it, what version? computer?
[13:20] <sacarlson> bazhang: zainw: yes that one
[13:20] <Amoz> user1, the more you can tell us the better
[13:20] <luist_> hey guys.. i made my own repo, generated a Release.gpg from the Release file and on the client that im trying to use this repo, im getting a NO_PUBKEY error… what am i missing?
[13:21] <user1> i installed ubuntu 10.04 32 bit os in my laptop, but there is gnome (GUI)
[13:21] <Amoz> luist, you dont have a key for the repo
[13:21] <Amoz> user1, did everything finish as expected during the install?
[13:21] <Amoz> when you boot the computer, what happens ?
[13:21] <zainw> bazhang, it says that its unable to locate the package pastebinit
[13:21] <Amoz> zainw, nvm that
[13:21] <Dave-Maydew> Has anyone actually got Ubunu 11.+++ working with GeForce FX Cards??
[13:21] <user1> its coming only tty1
[13:22] <luist_> Amoz: what else should i do on the server side?
[13:22] <user1> like black screen
[13:22] <bazhang> Dave-Maydew, yes; whats the exact model
[13:22] <Amoz> luist, I don't know exactly but you need to have a public key for the repo I suppose
[13:22] <sacarlson> zainw: maybe sudo apt-get update ; first
[13:22] <Amoz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[13:22] <Amoz> zainw,
[13:22] <zainw> ok
[13:22] <Amoz> open it
[13:22] <Amoz> and paste the output from the commands there
[13:22] <FloodBot1> Amoz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:23] <Amoz> even FloodBot1 agrees =P
[13:23] <sacarlson> Amoz: I didn't know he had a gui, I thought he's working on a term zainw
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> FloodBot1  is merciless
[13:23] <Amoz> sacarlson, oh well it sounds like he has a live session running
[13:23] <Amoz> he was referring to the devices in nautilus
[13:23] <sacarlson> Amoz: ok
[13:24] <zainw> Amoz, its done
[13:24] <bazhang> Dave-Maydew, I've asked you for the exact model number twice now, care to inform the channel
[13:24] <Amoz> zainw, now give us the link
[13:24] <zainw> sacarlson, using a livecd here
[13:24] <user1> can i install ubuntu-desktop after installed my ubuntu 10.04??
[13:24] <zainw> Amoz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/861895/
[13:25] <Amoz> user1, did everything install as expected?
[13:25] <user1> yes Amoz
[13:25] <zainw> Amoz, sacarlson and dazhang, Thank you so much for your help while i think about it
[13:26] <Amoz> zainw, now paste lsblk as well
[13:26] <Amoz> and link us
[13:26] <zainw> Amoz, its at the bottom of that page
[13:26] <user1> Amoz, can u pls tell me how to get gnome (GUI)
[13:26] <Amoz> sry
[13:26] <zainw> no probs
[13:27] <zainw> just glab for the help
[13:27] <Amoz> user1, you used the desktop installer right?
[13:27] <user1> i installed server edition 10.04 LTS
[13:27] <Amoz> user1, why?
[13:27] <Amoz> user1, that one doesn't include a gui
[13:27] <Amoz> because it's for servers
[13:27] <bazhang> user1, sure you can install ubuntu-desktop on that
[13:28] <user1> then is it not included gui in 10.04 LTS
[13:28] <user1> ok,
[13:28] <jnsl> Help much appreciated, im on a live cd and i need to reinstall grub. I have my root partition mounted. if i do su -c grub and do find /boot/grub/stage1 it cant find anything...
[13:28] <Amoz> user1, not in the server edition
[13:28] <Amoz> user1, I'd recommend installing the desktop edition if you're gonna use it as a desktop/laptop
[13:28] <jnsl> i can locate stage1 on my root partition in /lala/boot/
[13:29] <Amoz> zainw, it recognizes the sda device
[13:29] <user1> Amoz, we can use this as a server, that y i installed 10.04 LTS
[13:29] <Amoz> user1, a laptop server?
[13:29] <Amoz> okay then
[13:29] <Amoz> user1, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:29] <simone> ciao
[13:29] <user1> thnx Amoz its very useful thing.
[13:29] <Amoz> zainw, you can see the 232GB partition in the sda5 partition
[13:30] <zainw> Amoz, no mate, its not mounted
[13:30] <Amoz> zainw, are you sure you can't see it in nautilius?
[13:30] <Amoz> zainw, it's not mounted no
[13:30] <Amoz> but if you open nautilus, the filemanager
[13:30] <k1llj0y> how do u "ssh true" for xchat?
[13:30] <swaggi> BURR
[13:30] <swaggi> BURR
[13:30] <swaggi> BURR
[13:30] <FloodBot1> swaggi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:30] <Amoz> zainw, can't you see them under "devices" ?
[13:31] <k1llj0y> hello?
[13:31] <zainw> Amoz, nope
[13:31] <k1llj0y> uhm...
[13:31] <Amoz> zainw, then do the following
[13:31] <swaggi> k1llj0y: sup broz
[13:31] <k1llj0y> how do u ssh xchat?
[13:31] <zainw> ok
[13:31] <swaggi> SWAGGA
[13:31] <k1llj0y> hey swaggi
[13:32] <bazhang> k1llj0y, you mean ssl
[13:32] <bazhang> k1llj0y, #xchat
[13:32] <Amoz> zainw, in your homefolder mkdir tempmount
[13:32] <k1llj0y> thought it was ssh
[13:32] <k1llj0y> i should go to #xchat?
[13:32] <swaggi> k1llj0y: what are you trying to do exactly?
[13:32] <swaggi> Probably
[13:32] <Dave-Maydew> Sorry on the phone
[13:32] <zainw> Done
[13:32] <k1llj0y> just secure tunnel here
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> k1llj0y  you need X to use use Xchat = ssh -y remote-user@remote-ip "xchat"
[13:33] <Dave-Maydew> I am running GeForce FX5700
[13:33] <Amoz> zainw, then sudo mount /dev/sda5 ~/tempmoun
[13:33] <Amoz> zainw, should work
[13:33] <k1llj0y> brb
[13:33] <Testtube> Hi guys
[13:33] <bazhang> Dave-Maydew, thats quite an old card?
[13:33] <Amoz> zainw, also paste output from df -h please
[13:34] <krnekhelesh> Testtube: hi
[13:34] <Dave-Maydew> yup
[13:34] <k1llj0y> whats the diff between ssh and ssl?
[13:34] <zainw> Amoz, mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[13:34] <Dave-Maydew> but works in 10.04 and 10.10 and Linux Mint
[13:34] <Amoz> oh
[13:34] <swaggi> k1llj0y: ssh is secure shell
[13:34] <k1llj0y> ssh for remote, but cant ssl do the same?
[13:34] <Amoz> zainw, could be LVM messing up things maybe
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> k1llj0y  ssh is a protocol, ssl is a security thingy
[13:34] <swaggi> k1llj0y: ssh is secure layer
[13:34] <Dave-Maydew> but I want to use Ubuntu
[13:35] <Amoz> zainw, but I suppose you need LVM?
[13:35] <k1llj0y> ah ok
[13:35] <zainw> Amoz, sorry that was the last type of guided i tried before throwing out the window
[13:35] <k1llj0y> ssl is not a protocol?
[13:35] <swaggi> no
[13:35] <swaggi> it's a security layer
[13:36] <Dave-Maydew> So is there a way of getting it to work??
[13:36] <k1llj0y> which would mean that ssh is more powerful...
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> ssl is used for emails, iirc
[13:36] <k1llj0y> right?
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> ssh is used for remote connections
[13:36] <swaggi> k1llj0y: ssh runs on ssl
[13:36] <bazhang> k1llj0y, this has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[13:36] <k1llj0y> sorry, lol
[13:36] <bazhang> ##security k1llj0y
[13:36] <swaggi> Hey come on guys
[13:36] <Amoz> SSL is a protocol
[13:36] <Amoz> http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Sockets_Layer
[13:36] <Amoz> offtopic
[13:36] <bazhang> swaggi, ubuntu support issue?
[13:36] <k1llj0y> ty bazhang
[13:37] <k1llj0y> and swaggi
[13:37] <swaggi> ;D
[13:37] <swaggi> no problem k1llj0y
[13:37] <k1llj0y> ive been sick, brb...
[13:38] <Dave-Maydew> So Nvidia
[13:38] <Dave-Maydew> is it possible
[13:38] <Dave-Maydew> as I'm not the only one having these problems
[13:38] <zainw> Amoz, i think im gunna trash the current raid system, take out the 500gb drives and just try with the basics with a manual install of grub from the server cd
[13:39] <Amoz> zainw, that might be the best option
[13:40] <Amoz> zainw, or if you feel adventurous, try the raid but without LVM and manual partitioning
[13:40] <Amoz> or something like that
[13:40] <Amoz> have no idea why it would fail like this though
[13:40] <zainw> Amoz, cant thank you enough and every one else that has helped me out today
[13:40] <Amoz> zainw, good luck
[13:40] <zainw> Amoz, thats what i was going to do
[13:40] <DeeTah> does ubuntu installer back up the MBR before installing grub?
[13:40] <zainw> Thanks every one :)
[13:40] <theadmin> DeeTah: No, why would it?
[13:41] <allu2> Hello, can someone try to swich desktop in unity using ctrl+alt+up+left while on the down right desktop? does it work?
[13:41] <DeeTah> theadmin: in case I wanted to restore windows7 mbr without looking for the cd just to cast fixmbr
[13:41] <k1llj0y> back
[13:42] <theadmin> DeeTah: Oh... Nay, doesn't do that -- you'll have to use the CD. But then again, I think Windows Recovery Console is installable as an app in Windows, so you can run fixmbr without having to actually use the CD...
[13:42] <krnekhelesh> allu2: it works for me, although I must ask which version of unity are you running?
[13:42] <swaggi> DeeTah: no
[13:42] <DeeTah> theadmin: i can't find the app version
[13:42] <allu2> krnekhelesh: um the one with oneiric(?) i can't move that way, all other directions work but not that one :S
[13:42] <swaggi> DeeTah: which windows?
[13:42] <studente1> my ssh user, despite being a root group doesnt have full features like color and autocomplete
[13:43] <allu2> krnekhelesh: i can move first to left and then up, or first up and then left but not change directly by pressing both same time
[13:43] <sacarlson> DeeTah: I don't think grub backs it up for you but you could manualy backup the mbr with something like the dd command ,   man dd
[13:43] <allu2> krnekhelesh: this works tough from left up to down right
[13:43] <k1llj0y> ok #security is not responding
[13:43] <_johnny> hi, im trying to find a hex editor with binary support. can anyone recommend one? most of those which claim to have, only support viewing in hex/dec/oct (i wish to be able to see the binary representation of a byte) :)
[13:43] <k1llj0y> ##security i mean
[13:43] <krnekhelesh> allu2: hmm that's wierd. I also have that problem...
[13:44] <allu2> krnekhelesh: :S bug?
[13:44] <krnekhelesh> allu2: if I press up + left not simultaneously but quickly in succession then it works
[13:44] <krnekhelesh> allu2: yeah a bug I guess...and I am running Precise
[13:44] <allu2> krnekhelesh: i wonder if this has been reported
[13:45] <allu2> krnekhelesh: or maybe i'm only one paying attension to such minor things ^^
[13:45] <krnekhelesh> allu2: nice catch though :)...we want a pixel perfect precise!
[13:45] <allu2> :D
[13:45] <krnekhelesh> allu2: can you report a bug and provide the bug report link?
[13:45] <krnekhelesh> allu2: I'll mark it confirmed
[13:46] <HDroid> Is dualscreen / xinerama with current intel graphics (9xx) working reasonably well in Ubuntu nowadays?
[13:46] <Vert> Is there a package for the Android SDK?
[13:46] <allu2> krnekhelesh: ok, time to try ubuntu-bug for first time :P
[13:46] <krnekhelesh> allu2: try ubuntu-bug compiz
[13:46] <krnekhelesh> allu2: since it is related to compiz package
[13:46] <allu2> krnekhelesh: uh and i already put unity
[13:46] <allu2> going back..
[13:47] <krnekhelesh> that's ok
[13:47]  * allu2 needs to learn some patience..
[13:47] <krnekhelesh> I'll change the package for you
[13:47] <ironfroggy> I have had troubles the past few days with pulseaudio streams not producing anything. the pavucontrol monitors dont even show any activity in the playback. does anyone know what might cause this?
[13:47] <allu2> no need i managed to cancel it before ^^
[13:47] <krnekhelesh> oh o
[13:47] <krnekhelesh> ok
[13:47] <krnekhelesh> nice
[13:47] <Amoz> Vert, nope
[13:47] <Amoz> Vert, you have to install manually
[13:48] <Vert> Amoz: Thanks
[13:48] <Amoz> Vert, developer.android.com
[13:48] <Amoz> me thinkgs
[13:48] <kjs> uhm, how do I restart x windows on ubuntu, normally ctrl - alt - backspace works however this fails to restart on 11.04 which I am running from a USB pen, ideas?
[13:48] <Amoz> thinks*
[13:48] <ironfroggy> would it be harmful to uninstall and reinstall pulseaudio?
[13:48] <Amoz> kjs that was disabled a few version ago afaik
[13:49] <kjs> Amoz: so it would seem, there is no gdm service to restart either...
[13:49] <theadmin> kjs: alt-print-k
[13:49] <sacarlson> HDroid: I read a bit on xinerama but never seen it working,  I us quicksynergy instead to make two computers act as one big screen, but not as cool as xinerama would be
[13:49] <Vert> Amoz: Yeah, I was reading though the guide for manual install. I just wanted to check there wasn't an offical ubuntu package for it before I started downloading and building it myself.
[13:49] <Amoz> Vert, building?
[13:49] <kjs> theadmin: was that a joke?
[13:50] <Vert> Installing sorry.
[13:50] <theadmin> kjs: And, Oneiric uses lightdm instead of gdm
[13:50] <HDroid> sacarlson: hmm ok... I've been buying Nvidia for the last... couple of decades, guess I'll do that again to be sfe.
[13:50] <HDroid> safe
[13:50] <Amoz> kjs, you're on natty, 11.04?
[13:50] <theadmin> kjs: No... Alt-Printscreen-K is the shortcut to kill all apps in current TTY which successfully restarts X as well
[13:51] <Amoz> theadmin, oh I gotta tr *poof*
[13:51] <theadmin> Amoz: wut?
[13:51] <Amoz> theadmin, I gotta try that
[13:51] <Amoz> *poof*
[13:51] <sacarlson> HDroid: it seems the docs on xinerama I did see were old, hope it still working,  if it does I'd love to hear about it
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> !info xinerama
[13:53] <sacarlson> MonkeyDust: HDroid: seem from what I could tell xinerama had become a part of something else, but I didn't see any examples after it moved
[13:53] <bazhang> !xrandr
[13:57] <sveinse> I have a Natty system where I set eth0 to static in /etc/network/interfaces, yet NM takes over this IF and assigns an dhcp address. How can I disable NM temporarely from a boot-script (upstart script)?
[13:59] <User111> hi, i want to launch mirage with some commands when the computer boots, how do I do this?
[14:00] <compdoc> happy leap day
[14:00] <User111> i can launch it the way i cant from terminal, but when trying to lanuch it with rc.local nothing happens
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> User111  man mirage, read what options there are, make a command and put it in startup programs
[14:01] <User111> startup programs? im on lubuntu, there are no startup programs to my knowledge
[14:02] <Husel> Hey, I've just installed Ubuntu, and I'm wondering where is the normal place to install programs, like C:\ or C:\Program Files on Windows? Is it File System?
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> User111  didnt know you're on lubuntu, missed that part
[14:02] <User111> i have the command, i just need for it to run.. the command is..
[14:02] <User111> mirage -fsR /media/capsule/photoframe/rotation
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> Husel  /usr/bin/
[14:02] <bazhang> Husel, the package manager takes care of that
[14:02] <User111> i made a script and tried to run it via rc.local
[14:02] <User111> #!/bin/bash
[14:03] <User111> sleep 40
[14:03] <User111> mirage -fsR /media/capsule/photoframe/rotation
[14:03] <FloodBot1> User111: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:03] <swaggi> That's why straight up sysvinit sux. It's possible to do but sysvinit is so messy.
[14:04] <swaggi> That it confuses a peep
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> Husel  pragrams are installed in /usr/bin/ -- some config files may be stored in /home/your_user or in /hom/your_usr/.config
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> o*
[14:05] <sveinse> How can I from a upstart job disable start of another job (that haven't started yet)?
[14:05] <swaggi> Husel: *nix filesystem and windows file system are really different
[14:05] <swaggi> read man intro
[14:05] <User111> hm, so i cant launch mirage from rc.local? :(
[14:05] <Husel> okay, thanks :)
[14:05] <swaggi> open a term, type man intro, press enter
[14:06] <sacarlson> sveinse: does this work? http://www.adamish.com/blog/archives/315
[14:06] <Husel> also how can I get the taskbar to be at the bottom instead of the left?>
[14:06] <mdl4> exit
[14:06] <mdl4> lol whoops
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> great, mouse stops reacting :(
[14:07] <swaggi> Husel: depends on the deskop you use. try right clicking on it and toggling around.
[14:08] <sveinse> sacarlson: Perhaps, yet my static network has no dns-nameserver, so I'd be lying to eth0
[14:08] <godofwar> everytime i restart ubuntu 11.10 I would like all my open windows and applications to be remembered, any ideas?
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> godofwar  save session
[14:09] <godofwar> MonkeyDust: where do i save session?
[14:09] <sacarlson> sveinse: normaly the gateway acts as the dns so I'm not sure what your problem is
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> i'm looking in system settings
[14:09] <Trevor69420> bleh anyone here use NTOP
[14:10] <helo1> Hello everyone!
[14:10] <sveinse> sacarlson, I need to configure eth0 as a static network on a small LAN with no default GW nor DNS. It's a special recovery mode where NM is clobbering this setup
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> godofwar  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/gnome-session-save.1.html
[14:11] <theadmin> sveinse: Just uninstall networkmanager?
[14:11] <theadmin> sveinse: (or stop it from starting)
[14:11] <sacarlson> sveinse: ok if you don't need a dns just point to yourself even if it don't work I guess that should prevent nm from messing with it
[14:12] <sveinse> theadmin: How to stop it when it hasn't started yet?
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> sveinse  you mean: prevent it from starting
[14:12] <sacarlson> sveinse: you can just kill it after it starts, not sure how to prevent it
[14:12] <User111> when making a startup script for rc.local, do I need the full path to where the program is located, or will simply the name of the program do?
[14:12] <helo1> sveinse: simplest solution is probably removing the NM packages
[14:12] <swaggi> User111: use full
[14:12] <User111> ok
[14:12] <theadmin> sveinse: Stop it from starting at boot, i.e: sudo mv /etc/init/network*manager.conf /etc/init/networkmanager.conf.DISABLED # I honestly don't remember whether it's "networkmanager" or "network-manager" so I put that * in there
[14:13] <User111> hmm... where are programs usually stored? :D
[14:13] <helo1> theadmin: I think it's with the -
[14:13] <Trevor69420> user11 depends
[14:13] <swaggi> User111: echo $PATH
[14:13] <theadmin> User111: "which progname" will tell you the fullpath to progname
[14:13] <swaggi> there
[14:13] <helo1> &@ sveinse
[14:13] <Trevor69420> whatever $PATH is
[14:13] <Trevor69420> usually bin i think
[14:13] <theadmin> helo1: I dunno, I didn't use networkmanager in a long time now
[14:13] <sveinse> I have an upstart job which runs very early (prior to rc/runlevel and prior to network). It decides two modes: recovery mode or application mode. NM must start in app mode, but it clobbers the static network in recovery mode.
[14:14] <sveinse> The core of the problem is that upstart has already decided to start nm, so renaming the /etc/init/network-manager.conf file has no effect
[14:14] <User111> well that didnt tell me much, but im reasonably sure the program i want is in usr/bin
[14:15] <helo1> sveinse: rename the .conf file at shut down. Then start the service with a script IF you boot into app mode
[14:16] <theadmin> User111: "which progname" will tell you the full path to "progname".
[14:16] <sveinse> I cannot control NM config as this config is controlled by networkmanager's packages, which ubuntu policy manual prohibits me to touch other packages configs
[14:16] <theadmin> User111: e.g: which firefox # returns /usr/bin/firefox
[14:16] <User111> yes thanks, i understood it now :)
[14:16] <kapz> hello there! I want to play movie files from my one ubuntu PC on another one connected via router through LAN cable...I open the location via ftp with login in nautilus and double click the file(to be opened with smplayer) but nothing happens, it just stay sblank
[14:16] <User111> its in usr/bin
[14:16] <User111> thanks
[14:16] <Trevor69420> kapz try VLC
[14:16] <helo1> sveinse: May I ask why you need NM in app mode?
[14:16] <sacarlson> sveinse: I just run a script to put my system into static mode with something like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/861956/
[14:17] <theadmin> kapz: smplayer is pretty cool, but I don't think it works with remote filesystems
[14:17] <User111> time to reboot and try stuff
[14:17] <swaggi> mplayer does
[14:17] <sveinse> helo1: We use it to control wifi and general user network setup
[14:17] <Trevor69420> just not very well
[14:18] <Trevor69420> to be honest the VLC streaming option might be best
[14:18] <theadmin> kapz: Actually, try "Open URL" in smplayer (ctrl-u)
[14:18] <Halexander9000> Hey, if I wanted to record my screen, what program would I use?
[14:18] <sveinse> sacarlson: Yes, I tried that. But doing service network-manager stop has no effect, as upstart haven't started network-manager yet. But it's about to.
[14:18] <sacarlson> sveinse: after I complete my static operation I just put it back to dhcp mode with sudo dhclient eth0
[14:19] <helo1> sveinse: sacarlson's pasted script above looks like it does the trick of stopping the NM service (which you can do after booting into recovery) and then sets the static IP. Run the script later in the boot process to avoid that issue
[14:19] <sacarlson> sveinse: or add a delay in the script to make sure that network manager is already started to stop it
[14:19] <swaggi> Halexander9000: ffmpeg
[14:20] <kapz> Trevor69420, same thing happens with vlc
[14:20] <Trevor69420> kapz try VLC in streaming mode
[14:20] <Trevor69420> dont try via FTP number one
[14:20] <Trevor69420> maybe through SMTP
[14:20] <Trevor69420> errrr SAMBA rather sorry
[14:20] <Trevor69420> lol
[14:20] <swaggi> you could try sshfs
[14:20] <Trevor69420> SMTP is mail
[14:20] <Trevor69420> haha
[14:20] <FloodBot1> Trevor69420: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:20] <Halexander9000> swaggi: Problem is, X11grab isn't working.
[14:21] <sveinse> AFAIK upstart makes a decision tree on which services to start, so upstart has already decided to start NM when my script is run. And I cannot delay anything, as upstart wont start network until my script is done. (start on starting network)
[14:22] <Halexander9000> swaggi: Unknown input format: 'x11grab'
[14:22] <sacarlson> sveinse: you can put the script in cron as @reboot  and add a delay there
[14:23] <sveinse> Cron isn't running yet. cron starts on runlevel [2345] so that's too late
[14:23] <fusiform___gyrus> hey :)
[14:23] <Trevor69420> kapz ur best bet is to set up a media streaming server
[14:23] <sacarlson> sveinse: or get dirty and just edit the script that starts network-manager
[14:23] <User111> ah it didnt work. there is simply not way to auto launch this program
[14:23] <User111> *no
[14:23] <Trevor69420> i've tried accessing videos over LAN via FTP and SMB and both are pretty glitchy to be honest
[14:23] <Halexander9000> Ffmpeg's X11 grab is not working. Can someone please help me?
[14:23] <fusiform___gyrus> can someone help me on pm about wifi bug...
[14:24] <User111> how do i turn off screensaver permanently?
[14:24] <theadmin> fusiform___gyrus: You don't ask for help in PM, you ask in the channel
[14:24] <Steevca> Is there like an irc chanell about all linux distros?
[14:24] <fusiform___gyrus> ok
[14:24] <theadmin> Steevca: #linux
[14:24] <Trevor69420> kapz: try these steps: http://n00tz.net/2008/07/vlc-media-server-ubuntu-hardy/
[14:24] <Trevor69420> Steevca: #linux
[14:24] <Trevor69420> oops
[14:24] <Trevor69420> yay what he said
[14:24] <Steevca> theadmin,Trevor69420 Thanks.
[14:24] <User111> nvm, dumb question
[14:25] <sacarlson> sveinse: too late?  how critical could time be at boot?  so it take 15 secounds longer to have a static address at boot. is that so bad?
[14:25] <Trevor69420> 15 seconds?
[14:25] <Trevor69420> A WHOLE 15 SECONDS... NOOOOOOO
[14:26] <Halexander9000> Ffmpeg's X11grab is not working. " Unknown input format: 'x11grab' ". Can someone please help me?
[14:26] <helo1> sveinse: yeah I don't follow why it is too late either. you need it to be late.
[14:26] <sacarlson> Trevor69420: that's just a random number I picked as a delay,  if you want to wait 60 seconds be my guest
[14:26] <theadmin> Halexander9000: You don't have to repeat yourself this often, wait till someone who knows comes here... Repeating once every 15 minutes or so is okay, but not every minute ;)
[14:26] <User111> is there an autostart folder or similar in the X gui environment?
[14:27] <theadmin> User111: ~/.config/autostart/
[14:27] <Trevor69420> i was kidding sacarlson
[14:27] <sacarlson> Trevor69420: no problem
[14:27] <User111> "direcotry not vaild" and i cant find it anywhere
[14:28] <User111> its like i have half a ubuntu installation
[14:28] <User111> lots of stuff is missing
[14:28] <Trevor69420> i've been trying to figure out for the life of me how to get NTOP to monitor two interfaces at once
[14:28] <Trevor69420> this is CRAZY
[14:28] <sveinse> sacarlson: When rc/runlevel is set, then all of the user services start which is the "app mode". The recovery mode decision script is set to run before rc and before network is up. That is important for other reasons
[14:28] <theadmin> User111: You know, the errors you give make me think you're not running Ubuntu, or infact, any Linux distro... they're *weird*
[14:28] <anders__> I've trouble with installing Miramath. Can anybody help me?
[14:28] <User111> im running a default lubuntu 11..somethingsomething
[14:28] <theadmin> User111: I see, huh.
[14:29] <Trevor69420> lol that was helpful
[14:29] <theadmin> User111: So, when you "cd ~/.config/autostart" nothing happens?
[14:29] <User111> it was the only ubuntu version that can run on my ancient laptop
[14:29] <Trevor69420> User111 no it isnt
[14:29] <helo1> I have an annoying issue with my wlan I was hoping someone could help with. My wireless randomly starts working (sometimes it will work for a week, sometimes less than a half hour). I will be connected using it just fine, and the connection will abruptly drop. I can still see networks in range, but any attempt to connect will result in it asking for the password over and over even though I know it is right. A reboot always fixes the
[14:29] <Trevor69420> Ubuntu Server would also run ;-)
[14:29] <theadmin> User111: Ah wait, so you're using LXDE -- try ~/.config/openbox/autostart/
[14:29] <User111> ill try
[14:30] <sacarlson> sveinse: I'm getting stuck then, is editing the network-manager script out then also?
[14:30] <helo1> randomly stops lol ***
[14:30] <T_H_X> Trevor69420: use cacti instead
[14:30] <sveinse> sacarlson: I could, yet violating the ubuntu package policy manual
[14:30] <Halexander9000> Ffmpeg's X11grab is not working. " Unknown input format: 'x11grab' ". Can someone please help me?
[14:30] <Trevor69420> T_H_X i love NTOP i had it monitoring two interfaces before but cant figure out where in the conf to add the other one
[14:30] <User111> openbox it is
[14:30] <Trevor69420> i have it only monitoring WAN (which is most important)
[14:31] <Trevor69420> LAN is useful to have tho so i can see which machines are using the most bandwidth every month
[14:31] <User111> now, how to use that openbox thingy to launch a program?
[14:32] <theadmin> User111: Simply put "command &" for each program in that file
[14:32] <T_H_X> Trevor69420: edit /var/lib/ntop/init.cfg
[14:32] <Husel> so do I just extract the whole folder for the program I've downloaded to usr/bin?
[14:32] <T_H_X> add more interfaces there
[14:32] <bazhang> Husel, what package
[14:33] <Trevor69420> T_H_X thanks i know where the config file is but where to declare the additional NIC is beyond me
[14:33] <Husel> not sure, I downloaded from the website, klogic
[14:33] <T_H_X> INTERFACES="eth0 eth1"
[14:33] <Husel> it's in a tar.gz
[14:33] <theadmin> Husel: DON'T extract anything to system folders (apart from maybe /opt), usually a bad idea
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> Husel  in ubuntu, most often, you download from the repos, not from a website
[14:33] <bazhang> Husel, got a link
[14:33] <theadmin> Husel: Unpack that archive (anywhere) and look for files called "README" or "INSTALL", read them.
[14:34] <Husel> ah okay, thanks guys :)
[14:34] <mbeierl_> helo1, I've had that issue before, but it turned out to be the wireless router was dying.  Sorry I can't be of help from the client side of things
[14:34] <ubi_> hello
[14:35] <ubi_> pls, how can i uninstall ubuntu
[14:35] <spike_> connect shadowfire
[14:35] <ubi_> it is installed on hard drive alongside my windows xp
[14:35] <konza> ubi_, install any other os in the same partition
[14:35] <mbeierl_> ubi_, install another operating system over top of it
[14:35] <bazhang> ubi_, was it a wubi install?
[14:35] <Ho^Oh> ubi_: You simply erase the partitions containing Ubuntu.
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> ubi_  delete the partition is one way
[14:36] <Ho^Oh> ubi_: Wait, how exactly is Ubuntu installed?       Inside windows using "Wubi"?
[14:36] <ubi_> but i cant see that partition in windows xp, i have only C
[14:36] <ubi_> it is installed usinng usb flash drive
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> ubi_  use a live cd, windows cannot see linux partitions
[14:36] <Black> Yes
[14:36] <konza> ubi_, dude use a partition manager
[14:36] <Ho^Oh> ubi_: You do not get linux partitions, you can only see a partition the partition inside Window's Disk Manager.
[14:36] <ubi_> ahaa thx
[14:36] <helo1> mbeierl_: thanks for the feedback, but this occurs in many different locations (totally randomly). I've had it occur while at many different client offices as well as my own office and home.
[14:36] <konza> ubi_, Windows can not see ext3/4 partitions
[14:36] <ultrixx> hi everyone
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> windows cannot see anything not-windows :p
[14:37] <ubi_> i will delete it and reinstall ubuntu cause i fucked up installation first time
[14:37] <ubi_> thx all
[14:37] <konza> MonkeyDust, :)
[14:37] <bazhang> ubi_, no cursing here
[14:37] <ubi_> oh sory
[14:38] <Ho^Oh> How can I resolve this issue, I am trying to "Browse files" inside my Bluetooth device, whenever I try to do so, I get this message: Error: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.2799 was not provided by any .service files Please select another viewer and try again.
[14:38] <Ho^Oh> The bluetooth icon nolonger appears in my unity notification bar.
[14:38] <Black> It hapns on 11.10 nly!
[14:39] <anjar_95> Can noone help me with Miramath?
[14:40] <Ho^Oh> anjar_95: What are you trying to do with "Miramath" exactly? We can not help if we do not have details relating to your issue.
[14:40] <anjar_95> Hi. I'm trying to install it
[14:40] <Ho^Oh> What version of Ubuntu?
[14:40] <anjar_95> Natty
[14:41] <starn> how do i get "this connection is untrusted. would you like to continue anyway"  says the vertificate is self signed for google and facebook in empathy.
[14:41] <Sph3r3> \join
[14:42] <biopyte> hi. how can i remove an application launcher icon from the gnome panel?
[14:42] <Ho^Oh> starn: You must've visited an httpS:// webpage...
[14:42] <anjar_95> There is a one-file installer, but it doesn't work!
[14:43] <biopyte> alt + right click  ... gives only "launch" and "properties"
[14:43] <Ho^Oh> anjar_95: Error message regarding that?
[14:43] <Ho^Oh> Saying "it dun work" is not useful information.
[14:43] <starn> Ho^Oh: i have https enabled for facebook.. and no matter how i type google's address it automatically takes me to https
[14:43] <Visual`> someone hase knowlegdes with 11.10 server and openldap ?
[14:43] <Visual`> -e
[14:45] <anjar_95> No
[14:45] <sveinse> sacarlson: I think I've got it. My early-boot script was start on (filesystem and starting network). By using start on (filesystem and starting network-manager) I can affect NM the way I want!
[14:45] <sveinse> sacarlson: Thanks for your inputs at least
[14:45] <pfifo> starn, google is all https by default
[14:45] <sacarlson> sveinse: very good,  hope I didn't add more confusion than help
[14:45] <Chipzzz> starn: i just did a google search & the cert was signed by Thawte
[14:46] <anjar_95> Just a minute
[14:46] <starn> Chipzzz: is that why empathy gives me that everytime i connect to facebook and google chat?  pfifo: ok. i kinda figured so.
[14:46] <Ho^Oh> biopyte: Try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/91445/how-do-i-remove-an-icon-from-the-top-panel-in-gnome-fallback-mode
[14:47] <Ho^Oh> pfifo: Not default in my browsers. One of them  being google chrome...
[14:47] <anjar_95> Cannot open self ./miramath or archive ./miramath.pkg
[14:47] <Chipzzz> dunno, i'd be surprised if google's certs are self-signed
[14:47] <anjar_95> It's made by PyInstaller
[14:48] <jayesh> can anyone tell me whether ubuntu can be directly installed on a usb drive
[14:48] <Ho^Oh> biopyte: SUPER(dumb windows key) + ALT + Right click.
[14:48] <kapz> theadmin, VLC gives the output: http://pastebin.com/4PYSJpDf
[14:48] <xangua> !usb | jayesh
[14:48] <pfifo> Ho^Oh, thats odd, Its impossible for me to google unencrypted even http://www.google.com:80 still redirects me to the https counterpart
[14:48] <hardc0de> How can I read local software documentations, which are installed but never used
[14:48] <theadmin> kapz: Needs the password...
[14:49] <Chipzzz> starn: you could try to traceroute the server & see if it looks right
[14:49] <biopyte> Ho^Oh: thanks it worked ... Gnome guys made a mess ... I'm pi....d
[14:49] <kapz> theadmin, it does not ask for a password
[14:49] <theadmin> kapz: Doesn't mean it doesn't need it
[14:50] <sacarlson> pfifo: what country is that?
[14:50] <kapz> theadmin, I meant to ask where do I put the password?
[14:50] <theadmin> kapz: You likely can't use protected streams with it
[14:50] <pfifo> sacarlson, unied states
[14:50] <theadmin> kapz: Though you can try it in the form of ftp://user:password@ftp.example.org
[14:50] <Ho^Oh> pfifo: Untied states? :P
[14:50] <pfifo> yes
[14:50] <kapz> theadmin, oh ok...will give it a try and see what happens...thanks anyway. :)
[14:50] <powl> hi
[14:51] <sacarlson> pfifo: in thailand it redirects also but defaults to http, I can choose https://google.com  and it will connect with no errors here
[14:51] <starn> i'm in the united states
[14:51] <biopyte> anybody using the e17 desktop ? what do you think?
[14:51] <Ho^Oh> kapz: It's not good practice to put that in URL bar. Could try that in "incognito mode/privacy mode/etc" so website visiting history doesn't display the FTP with password you've gone to.
[14:51] <Ho^Oh> biopyte: I'm not using it. I'm on Unity.
[14:52] <theadmin> biopyte: It's not bad at all, but kind of difficult to handle, I like openbox more :D
[14:52] <theadmin> Ho^Oh: kapz is trying that in a media player, not a web browser
[14:52] <biopyte> i'm looking for a gnome alternative ...
[14:52] <theadmin> Ho^Oh: Needs to stream from FTP :/
[14:52] <theadmin> biopyte: Try Xfce
[14:52] <Ho^Oh> Oh I see.
[14:52] <kapz> Ho^Oh, it's internal network...will it still affect it?
[14:53] <Ho^Oh> biopyte: I prefer LXDE over XFCE.
[14:53] <biopyte> i dont want to spend to much time with this issue
[14:53] <DerFlash> I've some OpenGL problem here. maybe someone can help? I'm running ubuntu 11.10 in virtual box on a mac with 3D accel activated. glxinfo seems ok, glxgears works fine. but when I try to capture the openGL window with glc-capture I get: "OpenGL Error: Failed to get size for 0x……..(glXSwapBuffers)" I've tracked down the error to the virtual box additions fakedri_drv.c but still don't know how to fix it:
[14:53] <DerFlash> http://www.virtualbox.org/svn/vbox/trunk/src/VBox/Additions/common/crOpenGL/fakedri_drv.c
[14:53] <biopyte> ok
[14:53] <biopyte> xfce i tried ... its ok
[14:53] <Ho^Oh> kapz: I thought you was using that in a web browser, my bad.
[14:53] <biopyte> what about kde ....for me it was always too bloated ... but maybe things changed
[14:54] <theadmin> biopyte: It's the same :D
[14:54] <biopyte> haha
[14:54] <Ho^Oh> biopyte: For one, it's fast on the hardware I'm on.
[14:54] <theadmin> biopyte: Well... a nice alternative is LXDE, well, you can also try to build some custom desktop like openbox + lxpanel + dmenu, for example.
[14:54] <biopyte> openbox  ... thats a desktop? ..sounds more like a WM
[14:55] <DerFlash> maybe someone can really understand the fakedri_drv.c call that's failing and provide some idea?! please? :-)
[14:55] <Ho^Oh> biopyte: When I speak about fast, I speak in terms of having no problems when multitasking.
[14:55] <biopyte> yeah ... i check lxde
[14:55] <biopyte> ok
[14:55] <wcchandler> is 12.04 beta 1 the same as today's daily build?
[14:55] <Ho^Oh> DerFlash: Visit #Vbox
[14:55] <biopyte> i DEFINITELY need a virtual desktop with 3x3 workspaces
[14:55] <DerFlash> k, I'll try. thx
[14:56] <Husel> -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$KDEDIRS     does this KDE come with Ubuntu or do I need to install it, and if not, where can I find the directory?
[14:56] <biopyte> theadmin Ho^0h : thx
[14:56] <Ho^Oh> Husel: There exists Kubuntu, which is basically the KDE version of the standard regular Gnome flavored Ubuntu.
[14:57] <Husel> Ho^0h: is there a way to do it on the standard one, since it's installed now :)
[14:57] <biopyte> KDE ... never liked it ... but looks pretty straight now
[14:58] <pfifo> Husel, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:58] <Husel> thanks :)
[14:58] <Ho^Oh> Husel: Do you want KDE, or KDE without many default programs?
[14:58] <Husel> without the programs, I think the program I'm installing just needs to use some of its files
[15:00] <Ho^Oh> Husel:  sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace
[15:00] <Husel> thank you :)
[15:00] <Ho^Oh> Husel: Be sure to make sure it's not going to give you text editor and such. (I've only used this command on Linuxmint, but I believe this should do as well)
[15:01] <dedicated1> I am trying to figure out what ports that are used at this moment but I have no clue how to scan for them, anyone that can help me with that? I need to know the ports to set up my ufw firewall
[15:02] <pfifo> dedicated1, the 'nmap' command is suitable for that task
[15:03] <Ho^Oh> How can I resolve this issue, I am trying to "Browse files" inside my Bluetooth device, whenever I try to do so, I get this message: Could not display "obex://[00:33:42:46:52:30]/".  Error: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.2799 was not provided by any .service files Please select another viewer and try again.
[15:03] <sheepz> is there a way to make the "Connect to server" use the home directory
[15:03] <zainw> Amoz, back again :)
[15:03] <sheepz> instead of the root directory
[15:03] <sheepz> for ssh
[15:03] <dedicated1> pfifo: nmap localhost would be the right command?
[15:04] <dedicated1> ohh nmap not installed O_o
[15:04] <pfifo> dedicated1, nmap is an incredibly complicated program, and I do not remember the exact command, youll have to check google or the manual
[15:04] <timex> booty
[15:04] <theadmin> sheepz: username@server:dir is the syntax (you can leave out the username, so "server:dir", e.g. "ssh.example.org:~"
[15:05] <zainw> any onwe know if Amoz or sacarlson is around? just want to give em an update from the problem i had before that they helped with
[15:05] <pfifo> zainw, im intrested
[15:06] <kalimojo> anyone heard about the raspberry pi ?
[15:06] <sacarlson> zainw: it works now?
[15:06] <bazhang> kalimojo, its offtopic here
[15:06] <subthalamus> !seen Amoz
[15:06] <sheepz> theadmin: I mean the nautilus plugin or whatever
[15:06] <bazhang> kalimojo, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:06] <pfifo> pi comes in different flavors now? I want some cherry pi!
[15:06] <sheepz> where I can browse it in nautilus
[15:06] <zainw> hi pfifo, hey sacarlson. I ripped the raids apart, swapped the drives around and left out the 2 x 250gb
[15:06] <theadmin> sheepz: Likely the same, just put it in like that while connecting. Or maybe add the actual directory to bookmarks
[15:07] <sheepz> theadmin: ssh program unexpectedly exited
[15:07] <zainw> went to install server again but did manual partition and all is good
[15:07] <magicJ> kalimojo: i have a raspberry
[15:07] <bazhang> magicJ, feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:07] <sheepz> and if I put the folder as "~"
[15:07] <sheepz> it says it cannot be opened on the target host
[15:07] <subthalamus> ubottu: seen Amoz
[15:07] <sacarlson> zainw: cool and this time lvm or extX?
[15:08] <zainw> sacarlson, I now have a fully running and self booting 11.10 thanks to you guys help before
[15:08] <zainw> sacarlson, i've left as ext4
[15:08] <sacarlson> zainw: ok that might be all it was the lvm thing
[15:09] <sacarlson> zainw: sometime in fixing things you break them with more problems than when you started
[15:09] <zainw> sacarlson, I had tried ext4 before and it didnt work. Im still wondering if the installer was putting the files on the wrong drive for some reason as its works fine with only the 1 drive defined in the raid card
[15:09] <pfifo> zainw, you were using lvm? thats why it wasnt working
[15:09] <zainw> pfifo, it didnt matter what i tried, it just wouldnt work
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> magicJ: how well does ubuntu run on it :)
[15:10] <pfifo> zainw, lvm is softraid
[15:10] <Ho^Oh> ATM, I'm using LVM + LUKS.
[15:10] <Ho^Oh> And my machine is still fast.
[15:10] <zainw> pfifo, lvm worked fine with CentOS 6.2 but not with Ubuntu
[15:11] <Ho^Oh> zainw: What's the problem regarding it?
[15:11] <sacarlson> pfifo: I think lvm can be used with or without raid or luks but it's another layer of complication for me
[15:11] <theadmin> sheepz: Meh just mount it as sshfs
[15:11] <pfifo> sacarlson, theres little reason to put a softraid on a hardraid.
[15:11] <lahwran> how do I find how many inodes my filesystem has?
[15:12] <pfifo> lahwran, `df -i`
[15:12] <sacarlson> pfifo: oh I agree no need for that
[15:12] <Ho^Oh> lahwran: Try: df --inodes / /home
[15:12] <lahwran> pfifo: thanks
[15:12] <zainw> Ho^oh, installing server, no matter what drive setup (guided, non guided, lvm or ext) i used, the server wouldnt boot in to anything and kept saying that the drives werent bootable but with Amoz and sacarlsons help before, is all good now
[15:13] <ivan__> hey guys! Could anybody help, I lost sound after mute and unmute
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> ivan__: run:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    then wait a few seconds and try some sound stuff
[15:14] <ivan__> tnx, let me try
[15:14] <X3l3r0n> hi, all
[15:15] <Ho^Oh> ivan__: sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload
[15:16] <Ho^Oh> ivan__: Actually, you will remember this command better: sudo alsa force-reload
[15:17] <ivan__> well i tried both waht you said and what ActionParsnip said
[15:17] <ivan__> didnt work
[15:17] <godofwar> does anyone know what the next patch of updates will release for Ubuntu 11.10?
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> ivan__: does a reboot help?
[15:17] <ivan__> no
[15:17] <Ho^Oh> ivan__: Did my solution helped?
[15:17] <ubi_> hi, me again :P
[15:17] <Ho^Oh> ubi_: WB.
[15:18] <helo1> I have an annoying issue with my wlan I was hoping someone could help with. My wireless randomly stops working (sometimes it will work for a week, sometimes less than a half hour). I will be connected using it just fine, and the connection will abruptly drop. I can still see networks in range, but any attempt to connect will result in it asking for the password over and over even though I know it is right. A reboot always fixes the 
[15:18] <dedicated1> anyone has some more suggestions on how to find ports used by programs? I want to scan them so I can add them to ufw
[15:18] <Ho^Oh> helo1: Change your network name, or change the wifi channel your router/wifi box uses.
[15:18] <ubi_> i have partition magic 8.0 but it can't manage linux partitions, can someone recomend some that can
[15:18] <helo1> dedicated: disable the fw and run a nmap scan.
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> helo1: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a     Thanks
[15:19] <ivan__> Ho^Oh, no it restarts alsa but still no sound
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> ubi_: clonezilla
[15:19] <ubi_> TY
[15:19] <helo1> Ho^Oh: The issue occurs on every network, at work, at clients, at home. All channels, various AP hardware
[15:19] <pfifo> dedicated1, maybe stop all non-target programs, and then run netstat, and then get the target programs to try and connect
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> ubi_: if you used ext3, you can use partimage from the repos :)
[15:19] <dedicated1> helo1: I am trying that but I can't figure out how nmap works it looks damn complicated sorry
[15:19] <LjL> dedicated1: netstat will tell you, "netstat -l" will tell you about ports programs are listening on
[15:19] <ubi_> ty
[15:19] <Oer> ubi_, gparted live cd can. > http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[15:20] <dedicated1> thank you all
[15:20] <Amoz> sacarlson, looks like zainw got his problem solved
[15:20] <helo1> dedicated1: nmap -v -sP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/xx
[15:20] <ubi_> my nert book dont have cd drive
[15:20] <ubi_> netbook*
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> ubi_: you can make a live USB of it
[15:20] <sacarlson> Amoz: yup
[15:20] <Amoz> nice
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> ubi_: the stuf the gparted CD does can be achieved on the ubuntu cd
[15:20] <ubi_> i will try with clonezilla first
[15:20] <kapz> it just doesnt work...grrrrrr...vlc says Network interaction failed:
[15:20] <kapz> VLC could not connect with the given server.Your input can't be opened...but network is fine and I can browse through nautilus.
[15:21] <ubi_> tyty
[15:21] <helo1> dedicated1: do you have an Android phone?
[15:21] <kapz> any help is appreciated, thanks
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> kapz: is it a samba shared folder you are connecting to?
[15:21] <dedicated1> helo1: yes
[15:21] <dedicated1> helo1: why? :)
[15:22] <helo1> dedicated1: there is a really nice app called fling. It does port scanning very easily and does a good job displaying results. Give that a try.
[15:22] <dedicated1> ahh ok ty
[15:22] <kapz> ActionParsnip, actually I am trying to play a movie from another ubuntu PC connected via LAN cable...I can open the folder via nautilus through ftp but as mentioned above, I can't with VLC
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> dedicated1: there is a gui for nmap too afaik
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> kapz: so the ubuntu PC is running an FTP service?
[15:23] <Ho^Oh> dedicated1: lsof -i:portNumberHere
[15:23] <ivan__> ActionParsnip, could you please tell me how to reinstall pulseaudio, all I find in google is how to UNinstall it
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> kapz: tried accessing it via the ~/.gvfs folder?
[15:23] <pavolzetor> hi, are there any restrictions of using colours and logos from ubuntu and canoniucal?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> ivan__: its in a default install....
[15:23] <pavolzetor> I would like to make school presentation
[15:23] <LucidGuy> I rsync a filesystem from one host to another.  The source is 8.4TB in size and the destination ended up being 13TB.  I definitly have the delete option in place.  Could the 4.6TB be all sparse?
[15:23] <dedicated1> netstat -l worked but I cannot find irc/empathy in there so maybe nmap is better for the job?
[15:23] <llutz> dedicated1: sudo lsof -i
[15:23] <kapz> ActionParsnip, I can ftp through nautilus so I gues it should be running it...shouldn't it? or xinetd takes care of it...i dont know exactly but I can login via ftp on that machine using nautilus
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> ivan__: install pulseaudio package and it should be ok
[15:24] <Ho^Oh> llutz: Oh right! With root.         sudo lsof -i:portNumberHere
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> kapz: tries gnome-mplayer ?
[15:24] <dfcnvt> Morning, I need help regarding to the selection of file/program. (ex: don't open *.txt with pdf program... reset that)
[15:24] <ivan__> thank you
[15:24] <pfifo> dedicated1, netstat -l lists ONLY listening ports, drop the -l
[15:24] <dedicated1> llutz: zomg worked like a charm :D ty ^^
[15:24] <kapz> ActionParsnip, no but I tried smplayer which uses mplayer2
[15:24] <dfcnvt> Almost all different type of file opened with a wrong program.
[15:24] <kapz> it stays blank
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> kapz: are you using KDE?
[15:25] <kapz> ActionParsnip, Unbuntu 11.10 with gnome-shell
[15:25] <pavolzetor> nobody?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> kapz: then why didn't you install gnome-mplayer. smplayer is based on Qt so will have haulted in a tonne of KDE stuff to make it run...
[15:26] <llutz> ActionParsnip: qt-stuff, not kde
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> kapz: seems like an odd choice
[15:26] <Ho^Oh> pavolzetor: Use libreOffice impress
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> llutz: it makes my point :)
[15:26] <kapz> ActionParsnip, but it does the same with vlc
[15:26] <Oer> pavolzetor, yes, see >>> http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/
[15:27] <pavolzetor> thanks guys
[15:27] <pavolzetor> I just wanted to know if it is legal or not
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> kapz: try accessing the share via the ~/.gvfs folder
[15:29] <Trevor69420> kapz are you still trying to watch videos over a network share?
[15:29] <kapz> Trevor69420, yep stil struggling with it
[15:29] <chris_> Hey all, I'm trying to use update-alternatives to pick up x11 cursors.... But it's not finding them even though they're in /etc/X11. Is there a way to force it to pick the one I want?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> kapz: tried a different sharing technology...
[15:30] <pfifo> kapz, anyreason your using ftp? nfs allows me to watch movies stored on the local network, works like a charm too
[15:30] <ZeloZelos> chris_, you can edit the default.theme for the mouse
[15:30] <chrisgeorge> Hrm. Thanks ZeloZelos, I'll give that a try
[15:31] <night_> hi
[15:31] <night_> how can i join ubuntu-cn channel
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> kapz: or samba :)
[15:31] <kapz> ActionParsnip, pfifo : I am using ftp because it's fast and installed on my system....I have not tried another protocol cox I don't know any other way
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> night_: type:   /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:31] <jnsl> Anyone have time to help me get my computer running? grub is messed up
[15:31] <night_> ActionParsnip, thx
[15:31] <Trevor69420> FTP is sloooooowww
[15:31] <Trevor69420> SAMBA is ALOT better
[15:32] <kapz> then...what should I use?
[15:32] <Trevor69420> at least over LAN
[15:32] <chrisgeorge> ZeloZelos: Where is that located? I don't see it in /etc/X11/cursors
[15:32] <Trevor69420> u should be using VLC media streaming Katz to be honest
[15:32] <ZeloZelos> jnsl there is a grub rescue page on ubuntu's site just follow that its pretty easy
[15:32] <Trevor69420> cuz you're trying to stream videos
[15:32] <Trevor69420> not just play them over a network share
[15:32] <pfifo> kapz, use cifs if you want to share to windows as well, or nfs between 2 unicies
[15:32] <Trevor69420> u get alot better performance streaming with VLC
[15:33] <jnsl> ZeloZelos http://pastebin.com/P0XFidzX
[15:33] <Trevor69420> streaming will transfer at a lower bitrate katz
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: http://forums.neurostechnology.com/index.php?topic=9263.0    not that much different really
[15:33] <Trevor69420> ActionParsnip, yea thats true too
[15:33] <pfifo> Trevor69420, assuming the remote machine can handle realtime transcoding
[15:33] <night_> so many people
[15:33] <kapz> it's between two unices....but nfs was slow and kind of buggy in my experience...I even asked for help in this channel regarding it, but didn't get satisfactory ans so I installed ftp and I could share files without any hiccups!
[15:33] <ZeloZelos> chrisgeorge, umm i forgot :\
[15:34] <Trevor69420> pfifo only if he has to transcode
[15:34] <Trevor69420> if he's streaming with VLC to VLC he wont need to transcode
[15:34] <pfifo> Trevor69420, to get a lower bitrate, one has to transcode
[15:34] <Trevor69420> not if the source is already at a low bitrate
[15:34] <ranger_mcfrendly> Hi
[15:34] <ZeloZelos> chrisgeorge, i set up a shortcut a long time ago n im not in linux right now..ill start vb if you ll wait
[15:35] <ranger_mcfrendly> ubuntu for non-geeks sent me here!
[15:35] <chrisgeorge> ZeloZelos: That'd be cool, I'm not going anywhere :)
[15:35] <pfifo> Trevor69420, you said...  n/m
[15:36] <Myrtti> ranger_mcfrendly: welcome, do you have Ubuntu problems or questions?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> ranger_mcfrendly: howdy
[15:36] <ranger_mcfrendly> Nope, I'm fine thanks :P
[15:36] <Halexander9000> I wish compiling had a progress bar.
[15:37] <kapz> bahhhh.....sigh another futile attempt.. this streaming stuff sucks. NOT Easy. :| I better carry that hdd.
[15:37] <Myrtti> ranger_mcfrendly: great, welcome to the merry group, feel free to ask if you have questions, or help others. Our non-support chat is at #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:37] <Trevor69420> kapz did u follow the guide i sent you?
[15:37] <pfifo> Im ordering pizza for #ubuntu, all 1594 of us
[15:37] <uictamale> haha nice
[15:37] <mneptok> !ot | pfifo
[15:37] <Amoz> pfifo, <3
[15:37] <uictamale> i'll take pepperoni please
[15:37] <Trevor69420> i cnt eat pizza
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Halexander9000: it can if you add calls to notify-osd in your make file (if it supports it), you could have lots of mini make files with a batch script to compile and extra lines to output stuff :)
[15:38] <Trevor69420> seriously one remark deserves him an !ot
[15:39] <night_> Trevor69420, why did you can't eat pizza??
[15:39] <mneptok> Trevor69420: considering Myrtti reminded everyone about offtopic chat less than a minute earlier, yes. Myrtti reminded you, too.
[15:39] <ivan__> .... damn, is there a way to reinstall all audio related $#!7 I lost my sound and can't get it back
[15:39] <Trevor69420> me?? what did i say off topic
[15:39] <ZeloZelos> chrisgeorge, here  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/how-to-change-mouse-cursor-theme-in.html   its taking forever for vb to start up,  i may have broken the ubuntu vdi
[15:39] <chrisgeorge> awesome, thanks ZeloZelos
[15:39] <ZeloZelos> np chrisgeorge
[15:40] <ZeloZelos> chrisgeorge, all you need to do is put the name of the mouse theme's folder inplace of the one already there so inherits=Theme
[15:41] <krish> Hai, How to install ooVoo on Ubuntu
[15:41] <chrisgeorge> sweet!
[15:41] <ZeloZelos> n log out n in or restart x
[15:41] <Guest27060> Tried through wine
[15:41] <pfifo> Guest27060, is it in the repos? if not then look on launchpad.net for a PPA
[15:42] <usuario> hi. i'm having troubles to install updated packages on ubuntu. it appears as a "bnet" problem. anyone? thank u
[15:42] <Guest27060> i tried installing ooVoo through wine also
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Kraln: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1801/why-no-oovoo-on-ubuntu
[15:42] <Guest27060> but it is not working
[15:42] <pfifo> Guest27060, ohh its a windows app
[15:42] <pfifo> !appdb | Guest27060 make sure its supported
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Krish: http://www.securitybeacon.com/?p=7
[15:42] <Guest27060> Yes.  Now i am newly migrated from windows to ubuntu
[15:43] <MindSpark> hi, anyone's gotten wsgi to work on ubuntu?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: what does it do?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> !info wsgi
[15:45] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip, it's the cgi interface to python for apache
[15:45] <MindSpark> not equivalent but similar to php's mod_php
[15:45] <cancer> ActionParsnip: Hi, i'm back after created VM. Now got a new problem. Cannot install kubuntu
[15:46] <pfifo> MindSpark, most people would just use httpserver
[15:46] <mneptok> !info mod_wsgi
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> cancer: ask the channel
[15:46] <mneptok> hrmf
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> !find wsgi
[15:47] <mneptok> !info libapache2-mod-wsgi
[15:47] <mneptok> MindSpark: note the "is optional"
[15:48] <MindSpark> mneptok, yes, but I want to start coding python for web, and I just can't find resources on how to get this done
[15:49] <mneptok> MindSpark: what is "this?"
[15:49] <newer> ubuntu 怎么装gtalk？
[15:49] <pfifo> mneptok, nearly everything "is optional" even the kernel
[15:50] <newer> Help
[15:50] <pfifo> MindSpark, python isnt really the language of choice for web programming, you want PHP
[15:50] <bazhang> !cn | newer
[15:50] <MindSpark> mneptok, python.
[15:50] <newer> help
[15:50] <mneptok> pfifo: that's hardly true. Python is used extensively for web apps.
[15:51] <bazhang> newer, /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:51] <MindSpark> pfifo, yes, I know. Been doing php for the last 10 years, I need to start switching :)
[15:51] <newer> how to install gtalk?
[15:51] <mneptok> MindSpark: did you install Apache? did you install the wsgi Apache module?
[15:51] <newer> Help . how to install gtalk?
[15:51] <MindSpark> mneptok, yes, I did
[15:51] <pfifo> mneptok, maybe as a cgi
[15:51] <nibbier> newer, sudo apt-get install gtalk
[15:51] <bazhang> newer, sudo apt-get install gtalk
[15:51] <mneptok> MindSpark: have you told Apache ot load the module in httpd.conf?
[15:52] <MindSpark> mneptok, sudo a2enmod mod-wsgi
[15:52] <MindSpark> ERROR: Module mod-wsgi does not exist!
[15:52] <mneptok> pfifo: almost every piece of Canonical web software, including Launchpad, is written in Python.
[15:52] <newer> I have try, but it can't
[15:52] <mneptok> MindSpark: which wsgi package did you install?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> !info gtalk
[15:52] <nibbier> newer, what is your error message? and: gtalk is not google-talk. if yu want to use google-talk install pidgin, and add an gtalk account
[15:53] <pfifo> mneptok, so what your saying is, because launchpad uses python, pythn is the language of choice for all web development tasks?
[15:53] <Halexander9000> Can someone please help me? http://pastebin.com/dB5M1Brg
[15:53] <MindSpark> mneptok, libapache2-mod-wsgi
[15:54] <mneptok> pfifo: 'reductio ad absurdum' is a false debate tactic.
[15:54] <mneptok> MindSpark: and you enabled it in your server config?
[15:55] <MindSpark> pfifo, I don't know if it's the choice for web or not, but from the few lines of code I've seen on python, I can say it's much more organized and readable than php
[15:55] <newer> sudo apt-get install gtalk
[15:55] <newer> Reading package lists... Done
[15:55] <newer> Building dependency tree
[15:55] <newer> Reading state information... Done
[15:55] <newer> gtalk is already the newest version.
[15:55] <MindSpark> mneptok, sudo a2enmod mod-wsgiERROR: Module mod-wsgi does not exist!
[15:55] <newer> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 17 not upgraded.
[15:55] <FloodBot1> newer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:56] <MindSpark> shouldn't that do it? I am getting this error
[15:56] <mneptok> MindSpark: have you tried manually editing the config file and enabling it?
[15:56] <newer> but I can not find gtalk in my pc
[15:56] <nibbier> newer, do you want to use google-talk?
[15:56] <newer> yes
[15:57] <nibbier> newer, <nibbier> newer, what is your error message? and: gtalk is not google-talk. if yu want to use google-talk install pidgin, and add an gtalk account
[15:57] <MindSpark> mneptok, not really, but I can see wsgi.conf and wsgi.load are linked from mods-enabled to files in mods-available
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Halexander9000: http://soledadpenades.com/2010/04/26/unknown-input-or-output-format-x11grab-ubuntu/
[15:58] <newer> gtalk is not google talk?
[15:58] <newer> @@
[15:58] <llutz> !info gtalk | newer
[15:58] <pfifo> !info talk
[15:59] <nibbier> newer, no, its not
[15:59] <newer> sorry, I am newer
[16:00] <Halexander9000> ActionParsnip: Aw man... this will be the third time I compile ffmpeg...
[16:00] <L3top_> !info nvidia-current
[16:00] <newer> can I use apt-get to install gtalk?
[16:00] <TUX11> ok bit of a strange problem. ive plugged my usb drive into the pc and it has trouble mounting it, how can i check the filing system, it was working ok last night
[16:01] <L3top_> hmmm
[16:01] <pfifo> newer, gtalk is already installed on your system, however gtalk will not work with google-talk
[16:02] <newer> ok
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> newer: `just use pidgin :)
[16:02] <newer> then how can i make it work
[16:02] <L3top_> If 295.20 is certified, why is nvidia-current set at 195 in lucid (knowing that nvidia-glx-260 has better support), and 280 in oneiric?
[16:02] <bazhang> newer, install pidgin
[16:02] <newer> I trying
[16:03] <theadmin> L3top_: Ubuntu doesn't introduce major software updates to older releases, especially LTS
[16:03] <TUX11> how can i check a usb drives file system
[16:03] <Chipzzz> TUX11: did you unmount it properly last night before unplugging it?
[16:03] <TUX11> i shut down
[16:03] <TUX11> from the start menu
[16:03] <newer> is    sudo apt-get install pidgin?
[16:04] <pfifo> TUX11, e2fsck /dev/sdXY for ext2 drives dosfsck /dev/sdXY for fat
[16:04] <Chipzzz> TUX11: that's one likely cause eliminated :-)
[16:04] <TUX11> ok lemme give it a bash
[16:04] <L3top_> thanks theadmin, but given that they have introduced a new VDPAU revision with better h264, It is a shame it is not even installable.
[16:04] <L3top_> from a package
[16:04] <theadmin> L3top_: Search for a PPA
[16:04] <Canadian1296> I need to edit /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/* but even as root I get "fsync failed" when I try to save my changes (in vi)
[16:04] <pfifo> TUX11, dont forget, checking a filesystem while its mounted will destroy it
[16:04] <TUX11> hmmm
[16:04] <theadmin> Canadian1296: You can't edit stuff under /proc
[16:05] <theadmin> Canadian1296: ...As far as I know, at least
[16:05] <TUX11> cuz i usually just shut down from the start menu and its ok
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> L3top_: there is the Xorg edgers update ppa (less fresh more stable)
[16:05] <L3top_> I can get it via PPA, we just try not to introduce them to our source tree because our versioning is so specific.
[16:05] <TUX11> but yesterday i was playing around with Vbox
[16:05] <Canadian1296> theadmin: But I have to. How would I?
[16:05] <TUX11> could that have done somethink
[16:05] <L3top_> Thanks all.
[16:05] <theadmin> Canadian1296: What are you trying to actually acheieve?
[16:05] <newer> bazhang， how to install pidgin?
[16:05] <theadmin> newer: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[16:06] <Canadian1296> theadmin: I'm setting up openswan and I need to disable "accept_redirect" and "send_redirect" by changing the file contents from 1 to 0.
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> newer: about 4 people have told you, and told you the same thing...
[16:06] <theadmin> !pm | newer
[16:07] <pfifo> Canadian1296, you want to echo -n 1 > /proc/path/to/node
[16:07] <TUX11> grrr brb im guna try a manual mount lol
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: that'll need a sudo some place
[16:07] <Ho^Oh> newer: PUSH ctrl+alt+T     to open up a commandline/terminal window. Then you type in the above command. (Or open terminal from Ubuntu's app menu).
[16:07] <Canadian1296> pfifo: I tried echo, but what does the -n do?
[16:08] <llutz> Canadian1296:  echo 0 |sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/send_redirects (same for accept_redirect)
[16:08] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, sudo and echo do not mix, Canadian1296 sudo -s first to become root
[16:08] <M4dH4TT3r> cannot find sandbox server = network error?
[16:08] <theadmin> pfifo: Not -s, -i
[16:08] <pfifo> Canadian1296, -n omits the newline
[16:08] <pfifo> theadmin, i use -s
[16:08] <theadmin> !wfm | pfifo
[16:08] <Canadian1296> pfifo: Alright ill give it a try
[16:09] <pfifo> theadmin, -s will work for you and him as well ^^
[16:09] <theadmin> pfifo: It messes the system up though, doesn't set up the environment properly
[16:09] <M4dH4TT3r> quick question - cannot find sandbox server = network error?
[16:09] <Canadian1296> Ive always used -s. what should I be using?
[16:10] <pfifo> Canadian1296, research both -s and -i and determin for yourself which best suits your needs
[16:10] <Canadian1296> pfifo: Alright
[16:11] <newer> I am sorry, what is pm?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> newer: private message
[16:11] <newer> thanks
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: well, they do, you just need to pipe to sudo tee ;)
[16:13] <M4dH4TT3r> quick question - cannot find sandbox server = network error?
[16:13] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, lol, sure sudo and tee get along great :)
[16:13] <Canadian1296> pfifo theadmin llutz: I got it, thanks :)
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: exactly, so:  echo "text" | sudo tee /etc/whatever/file   will work :)
[16:14] <llutz> Canadian1296: to make that permanent, change the values in /etc/sysctl.conf
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> llutz: could just add to the sysctl.conf file and run:  sudo sysctl -p
[16:15] <newer> sudo apt-get install pidgin
[16:15] <newer>   The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:15] <newer>    pidgin : Depends: perlapi-5.10.1
[16:15] <newer>             Recommends: pidgin-libnotify but it is not going to be installed
[16:15] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, for me that would always end up being sudo  echo "text" | sudo tee /etc/whatever/file because ill first try and fail at plain  echo "text" > /etc/whatever/file
[16:15] <FloodBot1> newer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:15] <llutz> ActionParsnip: thats the way to go
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> llutz: bit easier :)
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: of  tee -a   if you want to add to the file, tee will make the named file only contain the text you pipe :)
[16:16] <theadmin> I wonder. "echo" is apparently a bash built-in, but who stops you from creating /bin/echo or something which would just echo all the arguments? That'd let you use "sudo echo".
[16:17] <theadmin> Crazy ways of doing simple things xD
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: could make a script I guess, that would take the text and the file to manipulate
[16:17] <llutz> theadmin: "$ which echo" -> /bin/echo
[16:18] <pfifo> I thought echo started out as a real program before bash was mainline
[16:18] <theadmin> llutz: Oh huh. Means, when using... Oh, I get why it won't work anymore
[16:18] <theadmin> lol, the >
[16:18] <theadmin> >.< Sorry, my brain segfaulted on me
[16:18] <Trevor69420> who here has ever used openvpn or is using openvpn currently
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: haha
[16:18] <ubsrv> hi all; i'm trying to configure the 'quota' utility in my ubuntu server, but every manual I check is configured on the /home partition.. My system has only one partition with 'everything', is that a problem for the quota utility?
[16:19] <TUX11> ok guys no quiet sure whats wrong, ive hard wired it into the PC and the check comesback ok
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> ubsrv: i believe the quota uses the owner of the files
[16:19] <TUX11> but when its connected to the usb it wont mount
[16:19] <TUX11> could this be due to python which i installed testerday
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> I found newer's issue
[16:19] <pfifo> ubsrv, so long as root doesnt have to obey a quota, there shouldnt be any issues
[16:20] <TUX11> yesterday*
[16:20] <ubsrv> ok! thx pfifo, ActionParsnip!
[16:23] <gartral> ok, i've been fighting this for WEEKS.. I've googles extensively and i'm HOPING someone here knows the answer.. I have Neverwinter Nights, a closed source game that has a linux client.. but I can't get that client too run. it keeps complaining that it can't find libmss.so.6 even thout the launcher script explicitly states 'export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./miles:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH' which is where that library resides.. can ANYONE point me it the right direct ple
[16:24] <gartral> googled*
[16:24] <theadmin> gartral: Any chance of wrong architecture?
[16:24] <gartral> theadmin: negative. 32 bit game, 32 bit OS
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> !find libmss.so
[16:25] <gartral> ActionParsnip: it's a closed source library.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> gartral: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[16:26] <mneptok> gartral: why the relative path in that EXPORT? make it full and see.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> gartral: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1497087
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> gartral: sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[16:27] <gartral> ActionParsnip: oneiric
[16:27] <sun_devil> I have a Epel RPM in my downloads.  I do a ls /home/user and can see it, this sounds stupid, but how to i get into download directory?
[16:28] <pfifo> gartral, create a symbolic link for libmss.so.6 to the directory the executable is in
[16:28] <theadmin> sun_devil: cd path to change current folder to "path"
[16:29] <theadmin> sun_devil: Also, you can't install RPMs on Ubuntu (not in a sane way anyhow :P)
[16:29] <gartral> ActionParsnip: that's a very freaking annoying dependency for a sound library.. but worth a shot
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> gartral: it will install the lib as its a dep of the dev package
[16:30] <smiley_> I have a system with 48 disks...ubuntu only sees up to /dev/sdag (disk #31) any ideas about where I need to look in order to get the OS to see at 48?
[16:30] <gmachine_24> I have been using Linux/Ubuntu for a decade and now I'm using 11.10 and I have to ask how I can boot to a command prompt because I can't find the answer.
[16:30] <smiley_> In solaris I had to modify a file to see the rest...but I am not sure if I should have to on ubuntu or not
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> gmachine_24: add the boot option:  text
[16:30] <sun_devil> theadmin, Yes, I have a Ubuntu, but the RPM is in another puter in Centos.  Thanks, I finally got into the directory
[16:31] <pfifo> gmachine_24, add nox to the kernel line
[16:31] <theadmin> pfifo: That'd be "text", "nox" sounds like something from Gentoo
[16:31] <gartral> ActionParsnip: Did not help.
[16:31] <theadmin> gmachine_24: "text" at the end of kernel line
[16:31] <gartral> pfifo: I don't understand... put the dynamic link where?
[16:32] <gmachine_24> theadmin I imagine this was left out by design?
[16:32] <theadmin> gmachine_24: What was?
[16:32] <gartral> theadmin: changed too absolute path, no fix
[16:33] <theadmin> gartral: Hmmeh. I dunno >.> I had a similar problem, no idea what to do with it
[16:33] <pfifo> gartral, in the directory the executable is in, thats the first place programs look for shared libraries
[16:34] <gmachine_24> theadmin: 'text' at the end of the kernel line
[16:34] <gartral> pfifo: no help
[16:34] <theadmin> gmachine_24: Well, duh, I mean... why would you want to boot into console by default?
[16:34] <pfifo> gartral, can you identify what program is actually running? not the startup script
[16:35] <gartral> pfifo: nwmain
[16:35] <Seryth> So, I'm trying to play a DVD with mplayer, but when I run "mplayer dvd://" I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/862099 what's going wrong? Ubuntu 32 bit.
[16:35] <azertyu> hi
[16:35] <gartral> pfifo: before you ask, calling nwmain alone leads too a segfault
[16:35] <azertyu> there
[16:35] <azertyu> hi there
[16:35] <pfifo> gartral, move to the directory its in and run 'ldd ./nwmain' make sure it has all needed libs
[16:35] <theadmin> Seryth: Hi
[16:35] <Seryth> theadmin: o/
[16:35] <azertyu> may be i got an genius question
[16:36] <azertyu> let me try if i got answer
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> gartral: could use apt-file to find the file you need, it will tell you the package
[16:36] <rob-bob> what files are loaded when i sudo -i, apparently not /root/.bashrc or /root/.profile, anyone know where I need to ad shell scripts to be loaded when i switch to root user with sudo -i ?
[16:37] <gartral> pfifo: libmss.so.6 => not found. it's the *only* one not found
[16:37] <azertyu> well i got text file
[16:37] <azertyu> when i do cat text.file it display several lines
[16:37] <pfifo> gartral, copy all libmss.a and libmss.so files you have to that directory and try again
[16:37] <gartral> ActionParsnip: apt-file: command not found
[16:38] <azertyu> i simply would like to color each line into different color
[16:38] <azertyu> what i have to do ?
[16:38] <azertyu> for a better visibility i simply would like to color each lines into different color when i m doing cat text.file
[16:39] <gartral> pfifo: did so: libmss.so.6 => not found still
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  you mean in bash?
[16:39] <azertyu> can we use case in graphical mode ?
[16:39] <azertyu> cat
[16:39] <Chipzzz> rob-bob: have you tried "sudo -u root -i" ?
[16:39] <pfifo> gartral, can you pastebin the output of `ls -la libmss*`
[16:40] <azertyu> MonkeyDust: ?
[16:40] <gartral> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/862132/
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  where do you want colored lines?
[16:41] <ratcheer> smiley_: Interesting question. I can't find anything specific, but I would think it would be controlled by sysctl. I'm still looking.
[16:41] <gartral> pfifo: before you call me an idiot: that nasty little chain link wasn't me.. that's how it was packaged
[16:41] <azertyu> when you cat text.file from a terminal every line want to color it into different color
[16:41] <pfifo> gartral, thats standard... can you pastebin the output of `file libmss.so.6.5.2`
[16:42] <azertyu> do you get my questioN ? MonkeyDust
[16:42] <gartral> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/862136/
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  cat does not have that option
[16:43] <pfifo> gartral, where did you get this file originally?
[16:43] <azertyu> what command we need to use ?
[16:43] <gartral> pfifo: Game's install cd.
[16:44] <bentech4you> how to get system full report .like redhat's sysreport or like Sun explorer output
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> gartral: it needs installing...
[16:44] <azertyu> in the same way of cat what command to use to color each line ?MonkeyDust
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  you can write a bash script and use color variables
[16:44] <pfifo> gartral, can you `ldd libmss.so.6.5.2` and see if its missing any libs
[16:44] <gartral> ActionParsnip: how would I go about doing that manually?
[16:44] <klawd> hI!
[16:45] <klawd> i have ubuntu on my whole drive. now i want to install windows
[16:45] <klawd> can i resize my partition?
[16:45] <azertyu> i don't know how to
[16:45] <gartral> pfifo: No.
[16:45] <gartral> pfifo: No. it is not missing anything?
[16:45] <gartral> er .*
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> klawd  widows will ruin your grub -- first win, then lin is the golden rule
[16:45] <pfifo> gartral, no its not missing libs or no ldd failed
[16:45] <bentech4you> is there any way to get system report including full hardware.?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> gartral: sudo apt-get install apt-file      would be the obvious and correct way
[16:45] <gartral> pfifo: All Dependicies appear satisfied.
[16:46] <klawd> MonkeyDust: too late for that unfortunately
[16:46] <klawd> ill handle the grub.. i just need to resize the partition
[16:46] <gpm> on 11.10, my wifi passphrase is NOT remembered though i have set it to auto-connect and available to all users. i have to enter it manually each time. is there a fix/workaround? just upgraded packages and sad to still see this bug.
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> klawd  you will to repair the grub menu after you installed windows
[16:46] <gartral> MonkeyDust: you can, in an emergency, boot from a live cd and re-install grub into /dev/sda..
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> have to*
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> gartral  not easy for a beginner
[16:47] <timex> ll
[16:48] <gartral> ActionParsnip: I thought you referring to my libmss issue as that library needing too be installed
[16:48] <pfifo> gartral, try adding 'LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/my/libmss.so.6.5.2'  at the beginning of the line in the startup script that actually runs nvmain
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> gartral: you can use apt-file to see what package gives the .so file and install it
[16:49] <ldiamond> how do I change the user under which a service runs?
[16:49] <kim_> #ubuntu-indonesia @irc.freenode.net
[16:50] <gartral> ActionParsnip: That is a futile task as libmss is Miles Sound System, which is entirely closed source and only distributed through their SDK too closed-source developers, who thn compile it into their games.
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> gartral: do you have the .so file?
[16:52] <gartral> ActionParsnip: Yes...
[16:53] <gartral> pfifo: Ok.. now i'm beginning too get really annoyed.. STILL can't load the darn lib
[16:54] <pfifo> gartral, is there a libmss.a anywhere?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> gartral: then put it in /usr/lib
[16:54] <gartral> pfifo: negative
[16:55] <sun_devil> How can I find out if a epel repository has been added to Yum?
[16:55] <Pici> sun_devil: Ubuntu doesn't use yum.
[16:55] <Chipzzz> Pici: it's in the repos
[16:56] <Pici> Chipzzz: That doesn't mean that we use it for anything.
[16:56] <gartral> pfifo ActionParsnip -THUD- well that fixes THAT. now I get a segfault
[16:56] <Chipzzz> lol
[16:56] <sun_devil> I know its a centos
[16:56] <ubi> hi again
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> sun_devil: then ask in the centos channel, this is ubuntu support
[16:56] <Pici> sun_devil: Then you should be asking in their channel. not #ubuntu
[16:57] <ubi> im looking for some linux partition manager that runs under windows XP
[16:57] <starn> hey anyone in here know how to split the audio to play through speakers as well as headphones but only certain audio sources? eg Teamspeak goes to headphones rest of the audio through speakers?
[16:57] <Pici> ubi: That would a more appropriate question for ##windows
[16:57] <senayar> ext4 is not recognized by windows
[16:57] <senayar> you can't
[16:57] <klawd> ubi: why not use gparted live?
[16:57] <sun_devil> do you know a good channel for centos,  I tried #centos  ?
[16:57] <ubi> gparted, i+ll try thanx
[16:58] <urfr332gO> ubi, you can use gparted as a bootable partitioner.
[16:58] <pfifo> gartral, ohh well, thats odd. so its found now? but your getting a segfault running the startup script?
[16:58] <Pici> sun_devil: You need to be registered to join there.
[16:58] <Pici> !register | sun_devil
[16:58] <gartral> pfifo: both start-up script and directly calling nwmain..
[16:58] <ubi> is gparted simple to use
[16:58] <guddya> hi
[16:58] <geekbri> can apparmor.d files be named anything you want, or do they have to be named for the path to the binary they are working with
[16:58] <pfifo> gartral, did you remove the LD_PRELOAD
[16:59] <gartral> pfifo: no..
[16:59] <User111> how do i hide the mouse cursor?
[16:59] <urfr332gO> ubi, depends on your definition of simple, is to me. :)
[16:59] <guddya> anyone tell me how to set proxy server in ubunt
[16:59] <pfifo> gartral, do it, LD_PRELOAD is a hack
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> sun_devil: http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=8
[16:59] <guddya> tell mi how to set up proxy server in ubuntu
[16:59] <ubi> does gparted have graphic slider like partition magic
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> guddya: http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/02/how-to-use-apt-get-behind-proxy-server-ubuntudebian.html
[16:59] <gartral> pfifo: still segfaulting
[17:00] <urfr332gO> ubi, yes basically it has sliders.
[17:00] <pfifo> ubi, gparted is almost identical to partition magic
[17:00] <ubi> ok thanx lol
[17:00] <sun_devil> Ok thanks
[17:00] <ubi> i go try it
[17:00] <guddya> ?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> guddya: what?
[17:01] <T_H_X> guddya: System Settings > Network > Network Proxy
[17:01] <pfifo> gartral, well I could debug a segfault, but it wont help cause theres no way to fix it, youll have to file a bug report with the games maker and hope they fix it
[17:01] <starn> i managed to make sound come out both headphones and speakers at the same time but how do i split an application to come out of selected connections. eg music to speakers and VoIP to headphones? i'm using ALSA i believe. device HDA Intel ALC1200
[17:01] <dedicated1> hi there, I am trying to auth myself on Quakenet with Empathy but adding my password to the account settings doesn't work and when I auth manually I get "Failed to open private chat". Anyone here that can help me with that? any help is welcome :)
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> starn: is the system a laptop?
[17:02] <gartral> pfifo: that's highly unlikely.. it's Bioware/Atari.. the game is a decade old
[17:02] <starn> desktop
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> starn: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[17:02] <starn> ActionParsnip: desktop with more sound jacks and stuff than i can count.
[17:02] <sun_devil> rules smooles
[17:02] <dedicated1> starn: change input to microphone?
[17:03] <pfifo> gartral, most likely you have new version of required libraries that are not compatible with what it wants, and theres not much you can do to downgrade. the program needs to be updated to use new technology
[17:04] <dedicated1> I am trying to auth myself on Quakenet with Empathy but adding my password to the account settings doesn't work and when I auth manually I get "Failed to open private chat". Anyone here that can help me with that? any help is welcome
[17:04] <gartral> pfifo: after a moment's testing. the game's server seems too work.. so i'm betting the issue is in SDL.. which the install has an old fallback version of
[17:04] <sackyto> alguien podria ayudarme a instalar unos drivers ?
[17:04] <pfifo> gartral, maybe run the windows client in wine, if its that old, you should have good support and decent framerate
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> !es
[17:05] <starn> ActionParsnip:  that command is not working.
[17:05] <guddya> hi
[17:05] <guddya> actionParsnip: how to set up proxy server in ubuntu
[17:05] <sackyto> gracias
[17:05] <gartral> pfifo: been, but wine won't load the sound library, so i don't have sound >.<
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> guddya: I gave you the link that tells you how. What more do you want....
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> !proxy
[17:05] <User111> no way to hide the mouse cursor? stupid thing pops up during full screen slideshows
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> hm
[17:05] <guddya> where?
[17:05] <starn> ActionParsnip: nevermind i am just blind and mistakin O as a 0
[17:05] <pfifo> guddya, you should start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Squid
[17:06] <fiz0> how do i grep throug all files to find string?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> 16:59 < ActionParsnip> guddya:
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/02/how-to-use-apt-get-behind-proxy-server-ubuntudebian.
[17:06] <Pici> fiz0: grep -r "string" /path/to/files/
[17:06] <gartral> OK
[17:06] <Pici> guddya: Are you trying to setup Ubuntu to get behind a proxy that already exists, or are you trying to install a proxy server on Ubuntu?
[17:07] <guddya> i want to install gui based proxy server
[17:07] <gartral> pfifo: changed around the library loader too point too the fallback SDL.. got a new error.. Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> guddya: you don't need a gui for proxy. its in built in the OS...
[17:07] <fiz0> Pici, thank you that was exactly what i was looking for
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> guddya: or do you want to setup a proxy for others to use?
[17:08] <starn> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8c758e7a43c944868178969e3d5eb9269580a188  there is the output.
[17:08] <pfifo> gartral, try running it as root
[17:09] <guddya> yes
[17:09] <gartral> pfifo: same issue
[17:09] <anjar_95> I can't remove python2.5. I've run "autoremove", but when I type "python", 2.5 starts up.
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> starn: try:  echo "option snd-hda-intel position-fix=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[17:09] <guddya> i am new in ubuntu
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> guddya: which!? You cannot intelligently reply 'yes' to someone giving you TWO options....
[17:09] <gartral> anjar_95: sudo apt-get purge python2.5
[17:10] <gartral> ActionParsnip: THANK YOU!
[17:10] <kalimojo> has anyone ever actually paid for software for ubuntu ?
[17:10] <Pici> anjar_95: whoa whoa, what release of Ubuntu are you using?
[17:10] <anjar_95> 11.04
[17:10] <Chipzzz> anjar_95: do you have another version of python installed?
[17:10] <anjar_95> Yes
[17:10] <Pici> anjar_95: Okay, just wanted to make sure that you had another version of python installed :)
[17:10] <anjar_95> I think both 2.7 and 3.2
[17:10] <pfifo> kalimojo, i hear cpanl used to be popular
[17:10] <starn> ActionParsnip: it said option snd-hda-intel postion-fix=1
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> starn: yes, but it also added it in the file, reboot to test
[17:11] <kalimojo> pfifo what is cpanl
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> gartral: all good :)
[17:11] <anjar_95> But it still says python 2.5 isn't installed
[17:11] <starn> ActionParsnip: alright i will be right back.
[17:11] <guddya> thank's actionParsnip
[17:11] <pfifo> kalimojo, cpanel is used to configure a linux server via a web interface. but its not compatible anymore
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> guddya: no, which is it of the two...
[17:12] <Pici> anjar_95: What does ls -l $(which python) say?
[17:12] <gokul> Hello, i am not able to install ubuntu 10.04.4 server without internet, any way to bypass that ?
[17:12] <gartral> ActionParsnip: anytime i ask something like "would you like a hotdog, or a hamburger" and the other person says "Yes".. i feel like dumpung mustard on their head!
[17:12] <Chipzzz> i think python 2.x and 3.x are sufficiently different that you may have a dependency requiring 2.x...
[17:12] <pfifo> kalimojo, also, xen has some proprietary stuff that xen hypervisor can use
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> gartral: tell me about it, could use XOR to blow their mind
[17:12] <Pici> Chipzzz: 2.7 should be installed.
[17:13] <kalimojo> pfifo ok
[17:13] <kalimojo> is python installed by default on ubuntu ?
[17:13] <theadmin> kalimojo: Yes
[17:13] <Pici> kalimojo: yes.
[17:13] <pfifo> gartral, Ill take one too plz
[17:13] <gartral> ActionParsnip: I usuualy take the AND gate approach and give them one of each..
[17:14] <pfifo> kalimojo, yes python is required
[17:14] <anjar_95> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 5560610 2012-02-27 21:02 /usr/local/bin/python
[17:14] <dedicated1> hi there, I am trying to auth myself on Quakenet with Empathy but adding my password to the account settings doesn't work and when I auth manually I get "Failed to open private chat". Anyone here that can help me with that? any help is welcome
[17:14] <Chipzzz> Pici: so what's the problem, then?
[17:14] <starn> i am back.. don't remember who was helping me though.
[17:15] <VIPER-II> anyone know of a good torrent downloading program?
[17:15] <Pici> Chipzzz: They want to remove python 2.5, which is installed for some reason.
[17:15] <pfifo> starn, i think your looking for ActionParsnip
[17:16] <Mech0z> If I have drives on a raid card exposed as normal drives (each drive running raid0 basicly) should a VM running on ubuntu be able to see those disks?
[17:16] <Pici> !torrent | VIPER-II
[17:16] <Chipzzz> ah... sorry
[17:16] <pfifo> !info transmission | VIPER-II
[17:16] <VIPER-II> aight.
[17:16] <pfifo> "package size 0 kB"?
[17:16] <VIPER-II> I've heard some of them capable of squeezing the upload to 0bytes.  Is that true? Any of them do that?
[17:16] <theadmin> pfifo: Metapackage likely, points to transmission-gtk I'd guess
[17:17] <starn> ActionParsnip: i rebooted in alsa should i disable "auto-mute mode"? or leave it enabled and try to configure music player to play through speakers?
[17:17] <gartral> pfifo: hmm.. this is wierd.. ldd ./nwmain gives me linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x77759000)
[17:17] <gokul> Hello, i am not able to install ubuntu 10.04.4 server without internet, how can i bypass that ?
[17:17] <pfifo> gartral, ignore that, its normal
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> starn: i'd just play, see what you can do. If the option causes issues then run:  gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    and delete the line
[17:18] <Pici> anjar_95: Hmm.. Can you pastebin the output of: dpkg -l  |grep python2
[17:18] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: are you familar with hd audio and surround sound to a receiver via hdmi
[17:18] <chipotle> ?
[17:19] <anjar_95> http://paste.ubuntu.com/862180/
[17:19] <starn> what is IEC958 and IEC958 capture and IEC958 Default PCM  ActionParsnip ok.. any suggested utility to help me play around with this stuff??? for sound on linux is super confusing to me.. btw thus far it's not broken anything
[17:19] <pfifo> gartral, say, your not trying to run a 32bit game in a 64bit enviroment are you?
[17:19] <L3top_> IEC are your digital outputs
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: my sound troubleshooting is very limited
[17:19] <gartral> pfifo: already covered: No.
[17:20] <L3top_> I can probably help you chipotle
[17:20] <starn> L3top_: should i just leave the IEC's checked?
[17:20] <L3top_> They should be unmuted if that is what you mean
[17:21] <pfifo> gartral, run `valgrind ./nvmain` and paste bin... the book it outputs
[17:21] <L3top_> Tell me what you are trying to achieve
[17:21] <L3top_> and what you are using to try and achieve it
[17:22] <gartral> pfifo: argh.. that's a painfull request.. I don't have 120 MB too instal valgrind
[17:22] <pfifo> gartral, you can uninstall it later
[17:23] <gartral> pfifo: no.. i'm telling you I physically *don't* have 120 mb free on my hdd
[17:23] <pfifo> gartral, thats the only way I know to debug a segfault
[17:23] <gartral> pfifo: ok.. i'll remove something and make room
[17:24] <starn> L3top_: i don't even believe i am using the digital.. but i am trying to achive audio such as music and other desktop sounds to play over speakers and VoIP apps or what ever to play over headphones..  i am able to have all audio play through both.. but i can't seem to figure out how to split it... i've tried manaully typing into my config box of my program HDA Intell(ALC1200 Analog) [plughw:0,0]  and varries others to get it to work..
[17:24] <Subject1ne> is there an libreoffice for ubuntu ? or is it only openoffice ?
[17:24] <pfifo> gartral, keep a list of all the programs that it add as dependencies, so you can remove them all
[17:25] <Mech0z> is there free virtual machine software in the software center?
[17:26] <L3top_> I thought your original question had to do with hdmi?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Mech0z: virtualbox
[17:26] <Cabal> :D
[17:26] <Cabal> hello
[17:26] <Mech0z> ActionParsnip ty
[17:26] <L3top_> starn: if you are using HDMI then you are using digital, and the IEC985s concern that
[17:26] <Guest77273> help
[17:27] <starn> L3top_: my original question was what i basically just said.. than i asked what IEC958 was... i did mention i had ports for HDMI and Digital.
[17:27] <ldiamond> how do I change the user under which a service runs?
[17:27] <gartral> pfifo: the apt repos are SLOOOW
[17:28] <Ragnarok> help
[17:28] <starn> L3top_: to what i am aware of everything is plugged into analog  (3.5mm) jacks..  though i do have spdif jack which works with my 3.5mm speakers...
[17:30] <gartral> pfifo: hum-dee-dum
[17:30] <pfifo> gartral, you should be able to apt-get clean to free up some space
[17:30] <pfifo> after this operation
[17:31] <primedeath> I have Ubuntu on my tablet now.. How do I change it to properly use my touch keyboard?
[17:31] <L3top_> Sorry starn, had you confused with <chipotle> ActionParsnip: are you familar with hd audio and surround sound to a receiver via hdmi
[17:31] <primedeath> I can't seem to find it.
[17:31] <arnpro> hey guys, my recently has recently been reported as doing suspicious activities, and according to logs, it has been trying to access root of other servers
[17:31] <arnpro> so how can I check if any malicicious script is doing it?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> arnpro: could use rkhunter
[17:32] <LjL> and/or chkrootkit
[17:32] <ady> can someone tell me how i uncompres .7z ?
[17:32] <llutz> installing that _after_ a possible infection is senseless
[17:32] <serverlinux> hello. Hlp in Spanish please...
[17:32] <LjL> ady: install p7zip
[17:33] <llutz> !es | serverlinux
[17:33] <gartral> pfifo: that "book" broke ubuntu's pastebin
[17:33] <Chipzzz> arnpro: do you have a wireless router?
[17:33] <ady> LjL ty
[17:33] <pfifo> gartral, try fpaste.org
[17:33] <serverlinux> ubottu tanks my friend...
[17:34] <arnpro> Chipzzz: my server is hosted in server4you, it's a vServer, right now they gave me recovery access, and the data is mounted in /mnt, how can I check what part of my server tried accessing others?? is there any logs for it?
[17:34] <gartral> pfifo: http://fpaste.org/oDu9/
[17:35] <pfifo> arnpro, ask them todo a reinstall, and make sure you dont install any unofficial software in the future
[17:35] <arnpro> pfifo: we only used that server to do mailing, no one of our team ever had access to the shell....
[17:35] <arnpro> pfifo: we use Plesk to manage it
[17:35] <demon_spork> I can't get Google Chrome to set up sync in Ubuntu. It works for my account with every other computer I use, OS X, Windows 7, Chrome OS but the Ubuntu version of Chrome just sits forever trying to set up sync
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> demon_spork: tried a reboot?
[17:36] <gartral> pfifo: Ooops.. I pasted it twice..
[17:37] <demon_spork> ActionParsnip, yes
[17:37] <Chipzzz> arnpro: you could start by checking auth.log to see if someone else has access that you don't know about
[17:37] <gartral> pfifo: nvm, mouse jumped
[17:37] <serverlinux> someone has installed MS-SQL Express on Ubuntu?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> demon_spork: try renaming the hidden config folder in $HOME
[17:38] <Chipzzz> arnpro: ...and your hosting company should have the particulars of the intrusions...
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> serverlinux: why not use mysql....
[17:38] <arnpro> Chipzzz: there is no auth.log in /var/log, however there is a messages file, should I check there?
[17:39] <serverlinux> does not work for the program you need
[17:39] <pfifo> gartral, the problem is in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/libdricore.so my guess is that the game was not intended to run on the new version of Xorg. do you have and fallback GL/Mesa/DRI libs?
[17:39] <Chipzzz> ...After that, as ActionParsnip suggested, there's rkhunter
[17:39] <gartral> pfifo: No...
[17:39] <ssta> serverlinux: install MS-SQL in Linux is going to be....tricky at best
[17:39] <anjar_95> Pici: Any ideas?
[17:40] <Chipzzz> sorry, it's /var/log/auth.log?
[17:40] <ssta> serverlinux: if you absolutely NEED MS-SQL then isntall it in Windows
[17:40] <arnpro> Chipzzz: where can I find the history file of a user?
[17:41] <pfifo> gartral, well, you can try building a few older versions of SDL, to bridge the gap between the old program and the new X.
[17:41] <gartral> pfifo: bah.. ok.. thank you for looking into it.. i'm not downgrading my dri system for a game a decade old
[17:41] <serverlinux> My mission is to work in ubuntu
[17:41] <llutz> arnpro: ~username/.bash_history
[17:41] <Chipzzz> arnpro: you mean the terminal commands history?
[17:41] <ssta> serverlinux: then you need to use a database that will run in ubuntu (there must be like a hundred alternatives)
[17:43] <serverlinux> if but the system only works with MS SQL. perhaps with WINE but does not execute
[17:43] <ssta> serverlinux: mysql and postgresql are (probably) the most popular.
[17:43] <arnpro> yes, Chipzzz I opened the bash_history and i only got 1 line.... "su" that means they were successfull???
[17:44] <serverlinux> postgres yes, but Mysql is no compatible
[17:44] <ssta> serverlinux: there's not much you can do about it.  If the thing NEEDS a specific (windows only) database, then that's what it needs.  Run it in Windows
[17:44] <dedicated1> I am trying to auth myself on Quakenet with Empathy but adding my password to the account settings doesn't work and when I auth manually I get "Failed to open private chat". Anyone here that can help me with that? any help is welcome
[17:45] <serverlinux> sorry my english is bad...
[17:45] <llutz> arnpro: check roots bash_history
[17:45] <gartral> pfifo: not enough free space, not enough time.. I'm on an atom netbook...
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> serverlinux: then you may be stuck with Windows then
[17:45] <arnpro> I did llutz, and the file only says "su" and there's no /var/log/auth.log
[17:46] <ssta> serverlinux: you can try running it in wine...I don't think much of your chances though...
[17:46] <Chipzzz> arnpro: arnpro sounds like you've been hacked
[17:46] <pfifo> why does ubuntu ship with 'su' but not support enabling the root account?
[17:46] <serverlinux> Traducir del: español
[17:46] <serverlinux> Escribe texto o la dirección de un sitio web, o bien, traduce un documento.
[17:46] <serverlinux> Cancelar
[17:46] <serverlinux> español
[17:46] <serverlinux> inglés
[17:46] <FloodBot1> serverlinux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:46] <serverlinux> francés
[17:46] <pow4h> does anyone know how to type the 'start of heading' character, which is ascii for 1?
[17:46] <llutz> pfifo: on vps it has to (different from normal systems)
[17:47] <arnpro> Chipzzz: llutz: is there any way to trace a hacked server? without bash_history and auth.log???
[17:47] <ssta> pfifo: because (a) su is mandated by POSIX and (b) su is for much more than just root
[17:47] <serverlinux> There is an emulator like Virtual PC windows?
[17:47] <ssta> at least I'm pretty sure su is mandated by POSIX
[17:47] <ssta> serverlinux: virtualbox
[17:47] <llutz> arnpro: make an image and use some forensic tools on it. but you should setup your vps from clean fresh media
[17:48] <serverlinux> ok, i chck it
[17:48] <arnpro> llutz: yes, my host is awaiting for me to "check" what happened, but then they are reinstalling it...
[17:48] <ssta> pow4h: ascii character 1.  Try ctrl-A (not sure if that will work or not, but worth a try)
[17:49] <anjar_95> I repeat my problem: I've uninstalled python2.5, and have only python2.7, but when I start python in the terminal it says python2.5!
[17:49] <Chipzzz> arnpro: is you site php or python?
[17:50] <pfifo> anjar_95, you most likely uninstalled  a meta package, try running python2.7
[17:50] <arnpro> Chipzzz: php maybe, we got Plesk set up for mailing stuff
[17:50] <Budd> compiz is freezing on me occasionally when I zoom out to see all my windows or screens. Strace tells me it's waiting on a futex. Killing and restarting compiz fixes it (until it happens again).
[17:50] <anjar_95> Thanks
[17:50] <Pici> anjar_95: Sorry, I missed your message earlier (just read it), did you by chance happen to install python2.5 manually at some point? compiling from scratch or something?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Budd: I suggest you report s bug
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Budd: also create another user and see if its the same there
[17:51] <anjar_95> Yes, that's very possible
[17:51] <Budd> ActionParsnip: good idea; I'll try that.
[17:51] <Chipzzz> arnpro: your hosting company will probably want you to take some measures to prevent another unauthorized access
[17:52] <zamba> i need a CLI ftp client that's able to download using multiple threads.. any suggestions?
[17:52] <Pici> anjar_95: Normally /usr/bin/python exists as a symlink to the current version of python. So, on my install here it points to /usr/bin/[4~python2.7
[17:52] <arnpro> Chipzzz: hope they do, because the goal of this server was to have no administration, but easy stuff to use...
[17:53] <zykotick9> zamba: just want to say downloading is not typically CPU bound, but i'm certainly unaware of a multithreaded ftp client
[17:53] <ska> Can I install Seamonkey 2.6+ on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS?
[17:53] <ska> If so, how?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> ska: there is a PPA
[17:53] <Chipzzz> arnpro: most are accomplished through various exploits of the underlying code
[17:54] <zamba> zykotick9: "thread" was the wrong word.. i meant multiple download sessions
[17:54] <fairuz_> I have a 8GB USB stick. Is it possible to have several Ubuntu on it? Like 11.04 and 11.10. So that I can use the same USB stick and later choose which version I want to boot on.
[17:54] <anjar_95> Pici: It links to 2.7
[17:54] <arnpro> I guess I will have to dig down where the problem started, thanks alot Chipzzz, helpful!!
[17:55] <arnpro> Chipzzz: I already saved all the logs I could and going to ask my host to back them up for me
[17:55] <theadmin> fairuz_: You can try to install grub2 on it and have it boot isos
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> ska: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:joe-nationnet/seamonkey-beta; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install seamonkey    will give you 2.7-b4
[17:55] <Chipzzz> it's a start... good luck & glad i could help :-)
[17:55] <Pici> anjar_95: so remove the other python executable from /usr/local/bin/ then
[17:56] <arnpro> but, is it possible to look for _all_ files that have been recently modified???
[17:56] <quadruple> hello, is this a problem:           RX packets:2253411 errors:0 dropped:727 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:218584 errors:646 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:646
[17:56] <llutz> arnpro: find / -mtime xx  (man find)
[17:56] <ssta> arnpro: find with the -mtime flag
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> quadruple: is it a wired connection?
[17:56] <ska> ActionParsnip: Thanks.. were did you find it?
[17:56] <zzarbi> join #flume
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> ska: the ppa search page
[17:56] <quadruple> ActionParsnip: eth0, yes
[17:56] <fairuz_> theadmin: So the idea is to create two partition on it for 11.04 and 11.10, then install grub2 to choose?
[17:56] <starn> is there some kind of amazing utility that helps splits audio to two different sources? eg like say one audio based program sends to headphones and other audio based program sends to speakers??
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> quadruple: tried a new cable? Tried a different port on the router?
[17:57] <theadmin> fairuz_: Nah, one partition with the ISOs of Ubuntu on it, and GRUB2 to boot those ISOs
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | ska the search page here will show you
[17:57] <theadmin> fairuz_: Though your way is valid too
[17:57] <bluefrog_> starn, with two sound cards
[17:57] <quadruple> ActionParsnip: yes still the same
[17:57] <starn> bluefrog_: one sound card that supports that kinda function on hardware level..
[17:58] <anjar_95> Pici: It worked. Thank you very much!
[17:58] <Pici> anjar_95: great!
[17:58] <bluefrog_> starn, then it must be possible
[17:58] <starn> bluefrog_: or at least i think it's one..
[17:58] <quadruple> ActionParsnip: two machines have this thing, same hardware
[17:58] <Chipzzz> arnpro: yes, but often the code doesn't have to be modified to be exploited... you could, however easily check with a recursive ls sorted by date
[17:58] <fairuz_> Your way seems easier. I can add other version of Ubuntu later on
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> quadruple: which ethernet chip?
[17:58] <nore> hi everybody!
[17:58] <starn> bluefrog_: i know it's realtek.   HDA Intel ALC1200.
[17:58] <Pici> starn: JACK can likely do that.
[17:59] <starn> Pici: is there a simple guide to using jack for configuring sound servers in linux is possibly my weakest ability.
[17:59] <quadruple> ActionParsnip: chip? Intel Corporation 82562V-2 10/100 Network Connection (rev 02)
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> quadruple: are there any bugs reported?
[17:59] <zykotick9> starn: there is nothing "simple" about JACK - good luck (you'll probably need it)
[18:00] <fairuz_> theadmin: Normally what should I put for grub2 partition size?
[18:00] <theadmin> fairuz_: Grub isn't installed to a partition
[18:00] <quadruple> ActionParsnip: have checked a little bit, not sure if they are the same problem
[18:00] <nore> i've installed haproxy and when it runs it shows "poll" and "select". But according to haproxy documentation there are another two "epoll" and "sepoll". My question is how can I find a package with these "epoll" and "sepoll"? thanks@
[18:00] <Pici> starn: I don't know how up to date this is, but its probably a good place to start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/What%20is%20JACK
[18:00] <starn> zykotick9: yeah.. i tried jack before... i'm not even sure if i installed the thing right..  it's a pain in my well you get the point.
[18:00] <Pici> starn: The folks in #ubuntustudio may also be able to help.
[18:00] <esing> hey
[18:00] <fairuz_> theadmin: I'm lost then :)
[18:01] <esing> would you recommend me to put windows xp or ubuntu on my thinkpad t23 ?
[18:01] <starn> Pici: !! that is a epic idea! i never thought about ubuntustudio!
[18:01] <Pici> esing: This is #ubuntu, what would you expect us to say?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> esing: thats offtopic here
[18:01] <fairuz_> theadmin: So with your way, I just need one big partition? with all ISOs and grub2 on it?
[18:01] <pfifo> Ive installed/configured/used Jack, and its not too bad, it only becomes a pain when you want to mix jack and pulseaudio
[18:01] <esing> pici you are right my question was stated wrongly ...
[18:01] <theadmin> fairuz_: You don't need a partition for grub, grub is a bootloader...
[18:02] <esing> will thinkpad t23 be fully supported by the new ubuntu 11 ?
[18:02] <theadmin> fairuz_: Well, you'd need to store it's configs somewhere but still
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> esing: try a liveCD / USB and try
[18:02] <Pici> esing: You may want to take a look at http://www.thinkwiki.org/ , ThinkPads are generally well supported.
[18:02] <esing> pici thanks!
[18:04] <fairuz_> theadmin: Ok. I think I got it a little bit. I will try first with grub-install
[18:04] <chipotle> hi, is there a way i can get linux kernel 3.3 on ubuntu 11.10?
[18:05] <ssta> chipotle: only way I know is to compile it yourself
[18:05] <chipotle> ssta: ehhh
[18:05] <chipotle> from linux.org?
[18:05] <pfifo> chipotle, there may be a !PPA
[18:06] <pfifo> kernel.org
[18:06] <chipotle> i read that i can't have hd audio on 3.0 unless i patch it myself. i read that from arch linux... is there a way to use those patches on ubuntu?
[18:06] <chipotle> ah yeah, kernel.org
[18:06] <ssta> chipotle: yep.  Note that's unsupported...so if it breaks you get to keep both halves :)
[18:07] <chipotle> i found it here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#HDMI_Multi-channel_PCM_output_does_not_work_.28Intel.29
[18:07] <zykotick9> ssta: it might not break in half - thus suggestion "if it breaks you get to keep the pieces" is often more accurate ;)
[18:07] <pfifo> chipotle, maybe you should install a 2.6 kernel instead
[18:07] <ssta> chipotle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile might be helpful if you decide to compile
[18:07] <ssta> zykotick9: :)
[18:07] <chipotle> i think i'll just buy a grafx card so i can get arond intel audio
[18:08] <chipotle> any recommendations? i've heard good things about nvidia 430 and 520....
[18:08] <pfifo> zykotick9, my ubuntu always breaks in exactly 2 equal parts
[18:08] <zykotick9> pfifo: wow - that's handy ;)
[18:08] <pfifo> chipotle, ATI all the way
[18:08] <chipotle> pfifo: ati? on linux?
[18:08] <serverlinux> CHIPOTLE: 430
[18:09] <chipotle> serverlinux: any others to consider?
[18:09] <serverlinux> use Nvidia Quadro
[18:09] <pfifo> chipotle, i have an nvidia, i wish i had gotten an ATI instead
[18:10] <zykotick9> pfifo: are you serious?  chipotle i'd never personally recommend ATI for anything on linux YMMV
[18:10] <chipotle> serverlinux: can you point me to a card?
[18:10] <chipotle> zykotick9: i've heard great things about the 430. and microcenter has some in stock
[18:10] <serverlinux> my machine is XEON 2  6 gb ram and ati radeon 120mb haha
[18:10] <drullan> hi. i have a problem with the update... dpkg stops all time on the same update level and... a can't install anything new :S
[18:10] <serverlinux> 128mb
[18:10] <ssta> chipotle: depends what you need.  I have a nv210 in this and it's been fine.  Very much depends on the use you want from it though
[18:11] <dedicated1> I am trying to auth myself on Quakenet with Empathy but adding my password to the account settings doesn't work and when I auth manually I get "Failed to open private chat". Anyone here that can help me with that? please?? I can't figure out how to auth at all even searching the web for hours didn't help :(
[18:11] <pfifo> zykotick9, If I had gotten an ATI i could have wated even more time and energy mining bitcoins
[18:11] <pfifo> wasted*
[18:11] <zykotick9> dedicated1: ask on quakenet - your question has little to do with Ubuntu
[18:12] <drullan> how can i fix update problems without make miracles?
[18:12] <uber-n00b> +OK SsXEo0Sl1V2.tMmwX1iZ0Vp/
[18:12] <chipotle> ssta: it's for a htpc linux
[18:12] <serverlinux> chipotle speak spanish ?
[18:13] <dedicated1> well I think it's a problem with Empathy and since it's Ubuntu's default I thought I'd ask here, besides
[18:13] <dedicated1> I asked 2 times in the Empathy channel on irc and it's kinda dead :(
[18:13] <chipotle> serverlinux: no
[18:13] <dedicated1> but will do
[18:13] <chipotle> i'm american so we only speak english :P
[18:13] <ssta> chipotle: ah...I've never done one of those, so I can't advise, sorry
[18:13] <zykotick9> dedicated1: empathy is an IM client, you might want to try an IRC client instead
[18:13] <serverlinux> chipotle: Not only is the video card, also check your processor
[18:13] <drullan> how can i fix it? http://pastebin.com/WXLGzmEP
[18:14] <chipotle> serverlinux: i have an i3 sandy bridge
[18:14] <serverlinux> my machine is xeon dual ...
[18:14] <pp> Hello
[18:14] <_Ethan_> hi
[18:14] <_Ethan_> there was a program for free to recover deleted files, can someone remember me what was the name ?
[18:14] <pp> zykotick9 : empathy is also an IRC client.
[18:14] <_Ethan_> it worked also in windows
[18:15] <zykotick9> pp: not really...
[18:15] <ssta> _Ethan_: recover?  Getting back deleted files from extX is...tricky
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: use your backups...
[18:15] <drullan> is more kinde amsn
[18:15] <ssta> _Ethan_: there's a tool called recover, and one called e2undel.  Neither are all that great at it
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: foremost is ok
[18:16] <_Ethan_> ssta
[18:16] <_Ethan_> thanks a lot
[18:16] <theadmin> _Ethan_: foremost, ext4undel (or something along those lines), photorec
[18:16] <_Ethan_>  i think it was recover
[18:16] <pp> _Ethan_: You can try foremost but I don't know how to use  it.
[18:16] <drullan> Hello everybody :) i don't know how to fit it http://pastebin.com/WXLGzmEP and i must install eclipse jet!
[18:16] <_Ethan_> i want to use it in windows
[18:16] <ssta> oh, then you want a windows tool...
[18:16] <drullan> _Ethan_ Recovery Magic...
[18:16] <Gremuchnik> hi guys!  I can hear lots of reads/writes on my hard disk, much more than usual, its looping.  how can I best check the cause for this?  thanks
[18:17] <drullan> and not on windows recomended... try with Acronis
[18:17] <drullan> is a ultra boot tool
[18:17] <theadmin> drullan: Run "export LANG=C" and run the command(s) which produced the output again so that it's in English.
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: easy recovery pro
[18:17] <_Ethan_> was this one i think
[18:17] <_Ethan_> http://free-file-recovery.softonic.com/
[18:17] <_Ethan_> ActionParsnip but i dont want to pay
[18:17] <drullan> with features like recovery tools like ... oh, no acronis... is other name... wait
[18:17] <ssta> _Ethan_: that's not for Linux...
[18:17] <drullan> Hirens boot cd
[18:18] <theadmin> _Ethan_: Windows software is unsupported here... Try Photorec, and go to ##windows
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: use your backups
[18:18] <pfifo> Gremuchnik, running 'lsof' should give some hints
[18:18] <zykotick9> Gremuchnik: iotop is a command line application (requires sudo) that will show what is using your disks
[18:18] <Gremuchnik> ok
[18:18] <drullan> _Ethan_ i full recomend you the Hirens Boot CD, Recovery MAgic...
[18:18] <_Ethan_> theadmin nobody answers in windows
[18:18] <_Ethan_> xD
[18:18] <L3top_> Hirens ftw
[18:18] <drullan> is very slow, but runs!
[18:18] <charles_____> Hello. (I'm currently on Windows.) I have the latest version of ubuntu, ubuntu 11.10. I have a 3G wireless "dongle" modem for use with my laptop. I'm wondering how I get this modem to work with ubuntu?
[18:18] <_Ethan_> drullan thanks
[18:18] <uber-n00b> +OK Favmw/vvQ9..usaVt17F.u21wE9tN0YntuA0B1Eir.X76Sg1
[18:19] <uber-n00b> +OK /Bg4Z0bL1Z60lDH8f1uuHKE/awScM1VdY88.QhNQ11zuY6H.1Rx740avC9a1uzeCq1sGVPe0B4dcZ0yD/uc03fZfs0N2z9f.
[18:19] <drullan> _Ethan_ u wellcome ;)
[18:19] <LjL> uber-n00b: ?
[18:19] <ssta> charles_____: usually they "just work".  If you use the network-applet thingy (no idea where unity hides it)
[18:19] <uber-n00b> +OK mNjmF1UTbzW/umD4N159.HY1z9vig1sZxic/zEQNa.D/wVV/hXWjX.5z/JJ07jZAT/QoJPA.EHgj6.yhlN41O9m3l1DxPQa0N3fI609NNuN0l8Y3e/5G4zw0GjaUp0Tf7tC1P41/W.4QLQq/nLscq1HrYWe/omJ3n1IyMsr1
[18:20] <drullan> theamin how can i do that? cause thats the ubuntu software output message... not from the terminal
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> charles_____: run:  lsusb    and use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[18:20] <starn> what was the pulse program to add virtual audio streams?? and what is the Alsa version for same thing?
[18:21] <charles_____> ActionParsnip: ok, is this something i can do on ubuntu while not connected to the Internet, if you understand what i'm saying
[18:21] <Gremuchnik> pfifo - zykotick9 - what do I look for in the output of lsof or iotop? thakns!
[18:22] <Gremuchnik> I tried both, don't see anything abnormal, but I hear the disk going and going and going
[18:22] <drullan> theadmin: the 85% is in engish or a filename :O:)... and i don't know where i must put the lang change :(
[18:22] <pfifo> Gremuchnik, the name of the program thats causing all the disk access
[18:23] <Gremuchnik> pfifo - understood, buthow do I indentify the culprit?
[18:23] <zykotick9> Gremuchnik: what's listed at the top of iotop? that's what is performing the most I/O activity
[18:23] <Gremuchnik> right, and I see nothing special there. that's what so weird
[18:24] <drullan> I have a problem (poorly translated) type "not accomitted dependences" or similar... and every time it kilsl all the updates and installations. How can i fix it?
[18:24] <Gremuchnik> mabye my disk is making noises without w/r very much...
[18:24] <drullan> depends... not installed and over and over again...
[18:25] <Zal> does iotop show swap usage?
[18:26] <zykotick9> Zal: not directly - it's just DISK read/write output
[18:26] <seanism> how much memory would my VPS require for ubuntu and vnc so I can remote into a GUI?
[18:26] <seanism> 512mb?
[18:26] <zykotick9> !requirements | seanism
[18:26] <theadmin> seanism: Probably around that, but actually depends on how hungry the GUI is
[18:26] <ssta> seanism: 2G imo...1G *minimum* I'd say
[18:26] <seanism> for a VPS though?  I know for physical
[18:26] <theadmin> ssta: wut? This ain't Windows you know, any distro which requires 1G ram is just plain crazy
[18:27] <seanism> 10.04 so I can ssh / vnc in
[18:27] <zykotick9> theadmin: that's ubuntu's recommended minimium you realize?
[18:27] <Zal> zykotick9, ok, I guess that would still work if his machine were thrashing.
[18:27] <theadmin> zykotick9: Recommended?...
[18:27] <theadmin> zykotick9: Maybe... I ran ubuntu with 512m fine though, but then again that was back in Lucid times
[18:27] <ssta> theadmin: running any sort of DE in less than 1G...not really sane imo
[18:28] <seanism> ya thats what Im afraid of
[18:28] <Daekdroom> The recommended is 1GiB
[18:28] <theadmin> ssta: Who said anything about DEs? GUI != DE, you could just very well use "naked" X, or some Openbox...
[18:28] <Daekdroom> I boot my x64 Ubuntu to a little over 550MiB... so...
[18:29] <theadmin> zykotick9: Also, again, the "S" in VPS stands for "server", meaning it's not going to do any heavy tasks such as multimedia playback so...
[18:29] <zykotick9> Daekdroom: using 64bit with 500MB ram is crazy you realize?  32bit would give you more accessible memory in such a setup.
[18:29] <ssta> theadmin: sure.  1G is still tight imo.  Remember, Lucid was 2 years ago.  When I ran Linux first 32-128MB was fairly standard...I wouldn't want to try that now...
[18:29] <zykotick9> theadmin: and in my opinion GUIs on servers - make NO sense.
[18:30] <Daekdroom> zykotick9, I did not say I have 500MB. I said Ubuntu starts using over 500MB for me ;)
[18:30] <Daekdroom> I have 4G
[18:30] <theadmin> zykotick9: Agree entirely, makes no sense to me either.
[18:30] <zykotick9> Daekdroom: sorry, misunderstood
[18:30] <_Ethan_> the program i was looking for is called Restoration folks, very cool and simple
[18:31] <seanism> i would run desktop just so I can remote in and have some things running or active at all times for convenience
[18:31] <Zal> theadmin, mightn't a server be used for multimedia multicasting, for example? Just sayin'
[18:31] <ssta> seanism: screen?
[18:31] <philipballew_> Is there a proper way in Debian to get a newer kernel for squeeze, or should I just compile one?
[18:31] <theadmin> Zal: Um, so? To broadcast you don't need a GUI, you'd need it to receive ;)
[18:31] <seanism> i use screen now with my small vps
[18:31] <zykotick9> philipballew_: backports - but this isn't debian support - see #debian
[18:31] <seanism> im in irssi now
[18:32] <Zal> theadmin, true no GUI, but still some heavy lifting
[18:32] <theadmin> Zal: Oh... well that's true indeed.
[18:32] <dtcrshr> lhello everyone. i have a dell latitude d530, and im installing ubuntu 11.10. on the live boot the wireless dont work, but its avaiable on the optional drivers, which i can download on this live mode. After the installation if i go to the optional drivers it clains I dont have internet access, and the broadcom driver wont show on the list. Is there a way to use the usb boot image I installed to get this driver? Im on a catch 22
[18:34] <sun_devil> Trying to install portsentry from downloads but got a tar error of not recoverable
[18:34] <philipballew_> crap... wrong channel
[18:34] <theadmin> philipballew_: No problems, watch out the next time though ;)
[18:34] <sun_devil> Trying to open portsentry-2.ob1.tgz
[18:35] <theadmin> !find postsentry
[18:35] <philipballew_> theadmin, maybe i should just subscribe to less irc channels, but thats never gonna happen :)
[18:35] <Zizzu> :D
[18:35] <theadmin> philipballew_: :P
[18:35] <westernanalog> Trying to do sudo apt-get update but I get this at the end: http://pastebin.com/nQKDvA5Q Please help
[18:35] <oCean> !info portsentry
[18:36] <theadmin> oCean: Ah, pardon my misspelling
[18:36] <shivam7074> is there any download accelerator 4 ubuntu???
[18:36] <theadmin> sun_devil: Why are you installing something that is available in the repos from a tarball?
[18:36] <westernanalog> Please tell if I must translate some of the readouts
[18:36] <theadmin> westernanalog: Please run: "export LANG=C", after which execute "sudo apt-get update" again and repaste it
[18:37] <Zizzu> pff tutto li :\
[18:37] <westernanalog> theadmin: Will do
[18:38] <westernanalog> theadmin: Tha same output
[18:38] <theadmin> westernanalog: Supposed to be in English now, no?
[18:38] <theadmin> westernanalog: If not, do "export LANG=en_US.UTF-8" instead of that "C", figured it'd be possible to use "C" but guess not
[18:39] <omido> Hi . i'm looking for a good desktop search tool like Beagle.
[18:39] <zykotick9> theadmin: C "should" have worked
[18:39] <omido> Hi . i'm looking for a good desktop search tool like Beagle.
[18:39] <theadmin> zykotick9: "should" indeed, why wouldn't it?
[18:39] <theadmin> omido: No point in repeating yourself
[18:39] <zykotick9> theadmin: operator error is my only guess
[18:40] <omido> theadmin: Afer i posted my first message i saw chainloader's wellcome to ubuntu state.so i thought my first message is not sent.
[18:40] <theadmin> zykotick9: What's wrong with the operators? it is "export var=value"... At least if it's the standard "export" command
[18:40] <shivam7074> is there any download accelerator 4 ubuntu???
[18:41] <seanism> its called faster internet
[18:41] <omido> shivam7074:  Use Kget or another frontend for wget
[18:41] <forever2432> shivam7074: try "transmission"
[18:41] <omido> I use Kget on my Kubuntu system and its very good
[18:41] <LordDeath> I see a bright future for ubuntu
[18:41] <HSarena> Hi! I wanna to format my flash disk but it give an error, plz help me, tnx
[18:41] <theadmin> HSarena: Paste the error?
[18:41] <omido> LordDeath:  i dont
[18:42] <LordDeath> actually I am seeing the win8 preview in a VM right now but that is the same ^^
[18:42] <shivam7074> frontend???
[18:42] <godofwar> LordDeath: i do too but i wish there were some more updates for 11.10
[18:42] <oCean> LordDeath: chat/discussion is in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is for tech suport issues
[18:42] <omido> shivam7074:  I meant a GUI for wget.like Kget
[18:42] <dtcrshr> do I still need ndiswrapper for wireless in ubuntu 11?
[18:42] <zykotick9> theadmin: operator meaning - the person performing the action (i mean)
[18:42] <dtcrshr> im with a dell latitude d530, but the wifi wont work
[18:42] <dtcrshr> all forum posts are from 2008, 2009
[18:43] <omido> dtcrshr: Broadcom?
[18:43] <theadmin> zykotick9: Ah, you mean "user" error, heh, didn't realize it at first
[18:43] <HSarena> theadmin : Daemon is inhibited
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> shivam7074: there is uget, fatrat and jdownloader which can help. Your connection can only go as fast as you pay for
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: depends on the wireless chip
[18:43] <theadmin> HSarena: da wut... How are you formatting the disk?
[18:44] <shivam7074> which is better i got confused???
[18:44] <dtcrshr> 4311
[18:45] <dtcrshr> broadcom bcm4311
[18:45] <westernanalog> theadmin: I did a translation myself: http://pastebin.com/E8ENRi6u
[18:45] <dtcrshr> omido: broadcom bcm4311
[18:45] <theadmin> westernanalog: This looks weird, try "sudo apt-get clean" and then try again
[18:45] <zykotic10> !broadcom
[18:45] <westernanalog> did so
[18:45] <omido> dtcrshr: Broadcom has Propritary firmware i think. you can find it in debian forums. ask in #debian
[18:46] <omido> ah yes zykotic10 is right
[18:46] <HSarena> theadmin : first time it's show another error then i delete this flash, now i can't format this
[18:46] <westernanalog> theadmin: I did so
[18:46] <theadmin> HSarena: How are you formatting it?
[18:46] <theadmin> westernanalog: Hm. Try changing to another mirror.
[18:47] <dtcrshr> oh crap
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: you haven't needed ndiswrapper for a long while now
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> shivam7074: there is no better or best, each has its strengths
[18:47] <dtcrshr> its a nice notebook, but i dont want install the vista that came from.. ubuntu seems nice, besides the wireless just wont work
[18:47] <HSarena> theadmin : with Disk Utility
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: get a wired connection and get fully updated, reboot and use the additional drivers app. It will work
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: those cheap broadcom chips are abundant and have decent support
[18:48] <theadmin> HSarena: Try the cli way: sudo mkfs.FILESYSTEM_TYPE /dev/sdXY (where FILESYSTEM_TYPE is the fs you're formatting to, X is the device letter and Y is the partition number)
[18:48] <dtcrshr> hm ok
[18:50] <westernanalog> theadmin: seems the main mirror did the trick. not sure yet cause it is not finnished and i have a dinosaur connection to the net
[18:50] <theadmin> westernanalog: Well I'm glad it at least moved a step forward ;)
[18:51] <westernanalog> theadmin: so far. thanks!
[18:52] <shivam7074> i m a new ubuntu user where i can learn to use it n solve probs related to it???
[18:52] <oCean> !manual | shivam7074
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> shivam7074: there are lots of howtos online, I'd just look for them (and ask here) as you need
[18:53] <pow4h> so if i have a data file full of 1s and 0s, and my posix style read function is returning their ascii number for it, how do get it turn back into 1s and 0s like i wanted? i did vi myfile 123 :wq , then read() storing it to char array[10], and when i printf with array[0] it says 49
[18:55] <allu2> could someone check if they can repeat this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/943286
[18:55] <shivam7074> the manual is teaching abt 10.10 i m using 10.11???
[18:57] <HSarena> theadmin: thank you, i can format it, but now i can't mount it
[18:58] <HSarena> theadmin: Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try  dmesg | tail  or so
[18:58] <theadmin> HSarena: Why are you mounting /dev/sdc? Did you format the whole device?
[18:58] <fairuz_> theadmin: The partition that I will use to store the ISOs, what should be the FS? is FAT32 is ok?
[18:59] <theadmin> fairuz_: I thinks so
[18:59] <fairuz_> theadmin: thanks
[18:59] <theadmin> fairuz_: Then again it might be better to use extX just in case
[18:59] <fairuz_> theadmin: Oh, I will try ext3 then
[19:00] <shivam7074> how to know which ubuntu version i m using now???
[19:00] <HSarena> theadmin: yes, i formatted it
[19:00] <theadmin> HSarena: /dev/sdc itself?
[19:00] <HSarena> yes
[19:00] <theadmin> HSarena: That's... wrong -_- Well, it's possible to do it but it's not the right way around
[19:00] <HSarena> theadmin:yes
[19:01] <Zal> Anyone use RightScale? Anyone like it?
[19:01] <theadmin> HSarena: You need to create a partition, format the partition
[19:01] <HSarena> theadmin: how?? with Disk Utility???
[19:02] <theadmin> HSarena: I don't know how that even works, try gparted
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> fairuz_: if you use Fat32, you will not be able to use DVD ISOs
[19:02] <fairuz_> ActionParsnip: Oh thanks for the info. I'm trying with ext3 right now.
[19:02] <nijotz> in the ubuntu software center, there's an advertisement for "and yet it moves". If I click on it, I get "There isn't a software package called andyetitmoves"
[19:02] <zykotic10> shivam7074: "lsb_release -a" in a terminal will show you
[19:03] <nijotz> any repos I need to enable or something?
[19:03] <Zal> ActionParsnip, why is that? Does Fat32 have a max file size that's too small?
[19:03] <theadmin> Zal: fat32 is limited to 4GB
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[19:03] <theadmin> Zal: Per file, that is
[19:03]  * Zal snickers at fat32
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> Zal: yes, max file size for fat32 is 4Gb
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> unless the ISO is smaller...
[19:04] <superstraw> you can use "split" to break up a large file.
[19:04] <Zal> ActionParsnip, righto, thanks
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> superstraw: not if you want to boot the iso
[19:04] <superstraw> ah myesh indeed.
[19:04] <Zal> or even mount it
[19:05] <czz> what's it mean when my Ubuntu 11.10 server doesn't have /etc/resolv.conf by default?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> you COULD add some stuff to reform the image in tempfs then boot it. messy
[19:05] <fairuz_> What should I choose for the flags? I'm formatting with gparted.
[19:05] <fairuz_> Does boot is enough?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> czz: it should have one. Very weird. I suggest you run:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf      to get started
[19:05] <zykotic10> fairuz: FYI grub doesn't case about "boot flags"
[19:06] <pow4h> CryWolf you gave 2 answers not several
[19:06] <L3top> fairuz: xfs is best for media only
[19:06] <Zal> large file media
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> L3top: why so?
[19:07] <HSarena> theadmin: tnx ;)
[19:07] <czz> ActionParsnip, Thanks!
[19:08] <shivam7074> hello, i m using ubuntu 11.10 but the manual is 4 10.10...is there any manual for 11.10???
[19:08] <L3top> It is my understanding because of the way large blocks are addressed. I will get you a solid answer in a moment. I have read and forgotten it.
[19:08] <voland> is there any way to see youtube fullscreen and work in other programs same time?
[19:09] <fairuz_> :( my machine just crashed. Anyone answered to my question before? :)
[19:10] <ryzzan> bluetooth is no working... any tip?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> shivam7074: what are you having issue with?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> ryzzan: run:   dmesg | grep -i blue   do you see the device being detected?
[19:11] <ryzzan> ActionParsnip: nothing happened
[19:11] <fairuz_> theadmin: Does boot flag enough for the USB stick?
[19:11] <theadmin> fairuz_: That won't install grub to it if that's what you're asking.
[19:11] <ryzzan> ActionParsnip: the command passed, but i had no result
[19:11] <shivam7074> vollentiers send me a link 4 manual as i m a new ubuntu user but it was 4 10.10 version whereas i m using 11.10...
[19:11] <fairuz_> theadmin: No, just asking for the formatting
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> ryzzan: then its not detected by the kernel at boot. is there a switch to enable / disable it?
[19:12] <theadmin> fairuz_: grub doesn't really care for the "boot" flag, it's some Windows thing
[19:12] <fairuz_> theadmin: oh ok
[19:12] <dez4rk> Does anyone know if DDR3 1600 RAM would be compatible with a motherboard that says it takes DDR3 1333 RAM? Both are 240pin.
[19:13] <ryzzan> ActionParsnip: there is... and it's already enabled
[19:13] <forever2432> dez4rk: yes it is
[19:13] <dez4rk> forever2432: Thanks.
[19:13] <forever2432>  dez4rk: cool i'm currently running those specs
[19:14] <L3top> ActionParsnip: The XFS guaranteed-rate I/O system provides an API that allows applications to reserve bandwidth to the filesystem. XFS will dynamically calculate the performance available from the underlying storage devices, and will reserve bandwidth sufficient to meet the requested performance for a specified time. This feature is unique to the XFS file system. Guarantees can be hard or soft, representing a trade off between
[19:14] <L3top>  reliability and performance, though XFS will only allow hard guarantees if the underlying storage subsystem supports it. This facility is most used by real-time applications, such as video-streaming.
[19:14] <sergey> me again...  Any way to look youtube fullscreen and work on other monitor?
[19:14] <ryzzan> ActionParsnip: i have this warning, telling me that "networg is down"
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> L3top: nice, good paste dude. Thanks :)
[19:15] <fairuz_> I don't see any grub.cfg in the /media/myusb/boot/grub/ . Should I just create one myself?
[19:15] <ryzzan> ActionParsnip: Network is down
[19:15] <ryzzan> Traceback (most recent call last):
[19:15] <ryzzan>   File "/usr/bin/blueman-manager", line 231, in inquiry
[19:15] <ryzzan>     self.List.DiscoverDevices()
[19:15] <ryzzan>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/blueman/gui/DeviceList.py", line 445, in DiscoverDevices
[19:15] <ryzzan>     self.Adapter.StartDiscovery()
[19:15] <FloodBot1> ryzzan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:15] <theadmin> dez4rk: This is a question for ##hardware , not #ubuntu
[19:16] <ryzzan> hello
[19:18] <dez4rk> Thanks theadmin, didn't realize.
[19:18] <FireBeard> hey guys, when I listen to radio via Rhythmbox, it sounds like a broken MP3 [glitches and things]
[19:18] <shivam7074> i m clickin on  songs in playlist in bansee but they rnt playin
[19:19] <FireBeard> guys?
[19:19] <ryzzan> hello
[19:19] <FireBeard> it's driving me insane
[19:20] <forever2432> FireBeard: did you upgrade or install a audio driver recently?
[19:20] <FireBeard> no
[19:20] <P1rate> Hello!
[19:21] <FireBeard> it's been a problem for quite a while
[19:21] <FireBeard> sometimes it happens, sometimes not
[19:21] <FireBeard> more, the last few weeks
[19:22] <FireBeard> it glitches, audio goes away for a tenth of a second or so... :x
[19:22] <FireBeard> EVERY second, sometimes more per second
[19:22] <allu2> FireBeard: hum do you have url for the radio station?
[19:22] <forever2432> FireBeard: there is a system monitor, if you can run it in the background and watch your CPU,Memory while playing music
[19:22] <FireBeard> I have several where it happens
[19:22] <theadmin> FireBeard: Do other players work?
[19:22] <FireBeard> not really no
[19:23] <FireBeard> sys mon looks quite normal
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> o/ FireBeard
[19:23] <geo_> hola
[19:23] <shivam7074> please any one reply to my asked question!!!
[19:23] <FireBeard> hey MonkeyDust
[19:23] <chipotle> any idea which grafx card is better? http://bit.ly/wQFJJH or http://bit.ly/wvxhPv ?
[19:24] <FireBeard> http://livestreams.omroep.nl/npo/mp3/3fm-bb.pls that's one where it happens
[19:24] <FireBeard> but I don't think it's the fault of the webradio
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> chipotle  "better" depends on what you do with it
[19:26] <forever2432> FireBeard: sorry whats your audio hardware? spec
[19:26] <FireBeard> Audigy ZS 2
[19:26] <westernanalog> when i open firefox the whole screen flicker black. also when loading webpages
[19:26] <FireBeard> euh, Audigy 2 ZS that is,
[19:27] <FireBeard> it's a fine card
[19:27] <chipotle> MonkeyDust: htpc
[19:27] <westernanalog> any one got an idea what cause tis?
[19:27] <usuario> need a lift, hey, any programmer to help me here, please <- instert coin here
[19:28] <FireBeard> it doesnt happen in Audacious, but I hate Audacious :\
[19:28] <forever2432> FireBeard: great card, we need to find out if its a software or hardware fault, have you got internal sound? onboard
[19:28] <FireBeard> it's software
[19:28] <FireBeard> Audacious works
[19:29] <forever2432> FireBeard: if Audacious works then its a neither a hardware nor software driver but a config fault
[19:29] <FireBeard> forever2432: yea, it must be damn Rhythembox
[19:29] <FireBeard> that's sad, because I like it
[19:30] <FireBeard> strange thing is, it doesn't happen ALL the time
[19:30] <micahcavaleri> I have a stupid newbie question.  I am trying to learn how to use git and gitosis.  Where do I get my server name from?!
[19:30] <FireBeard> you never use anything ending with ~tosis man
[19:30] <FireBeard> really
[19:31] <forever2432> FireBeard: yea it is a pitty, great card for gaming
[19:31] <FireBeard> it's a great card allround
[19:31] <FireBeard> Rhythembox just decided to be a bitch
[19:32] <micahcavaleri> anyone? gitosis? (I will freshen my breath)
[19:32] <forever2432> FireBeard: its prob a bug that will be sorted hopefully soon
[19:32] <FireBeard> forever2432: it's been happening on and off for a few months now
[19:33] <FireBeard> I'm too lazy to submit it to Launchpad, besides, my English is way too poor to do that
[19:33] <forever2432> FireBeard: it could'nt maybe be the getting hot, maybe stick a fan on it for testing
[19:33] <L3top> micahcavaleri: most of us who use git set it up and dont think about it again. This is not really an ubuntu related question, so you may not get a reply unless it is fresh in someones head.
[19:33] <FireBeard> why wouldn't that be a problem with Audacious then?
[19:34] <FireBeard> my pc is vented fine
[19:34] <FireBeard> 1 intake, 2 outtake
[19:34] <FireBeard> [bigtower]
[19:35] <FireBeard> thanks for all the suggestions tho :)
[19:35] <FireBeard> I guess I'll have to live with Audacious for a while
[19:35] <forever2432> FireBeard: a thumb suck, maybe Audacious doesnt use a default config for sound but its own
[19:35] <FireBeard> could be
[19:35] <FireBeard> I can't be arsed to check if it's hot now tho
[19:35] <FireBeard> but, I will check it out later, thanks
[19:36] <forever2432> FireBeard: ok cool hope you get it sorted
[19:36] <FireBeard> yea, me too
[19:36] <FireBeard> it's irritating
[19:37] <Jazo> I cant make work my irc services. error : ./services: Exec format error. Binary file not executable.
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: chmod +x ./services
[19:39] <Jazo> ActionParsnip i wrote notghing happened
[19:39] <Amoz> Jazo, sounds like a corrupt file or something
[19:39] <Jazo> what should i do?
[19:39] <FireBeard> forever2432: thanks again man :)
[19:40] <Amoz> Jazo, what you get from typing "file services"
[19:40] <forever2432> FireBeard: cool man :)
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: it won't. Try running the file now
[19:40] <Jazo> Amoz services: ELF 64-bit LSB
[19:41] <Jazo> ActionParsnip same error
[19:41] <administrator> hej
[19:41] <Amoz> Jazo, what kind of file is it?
[19:41] <uykusuz> hello tigers, I fixed destabilized compiz by restarting it, but now i have to put it on somewhere to have it on every system starts, what should i write and where please?
[19:41] <Guest15982> elo
[19:41] <zykotic10> Jazo: what is the output of "uname -m"?
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: chmod a+x ./services
[19:42] <forever2432> Jazo: chmod -R 777 ./services
[19:43] <Jazo> -»> ActionParsnip -»>  same error
[19:43] <Jazo> forever2432 same
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> forever2432: why recursive? Its a file...
[19:43] <Jazo> zykotic10 %uname -m
[19:43] <Jazo> amd64
[19:43] <zykotic10> Jazo: ok, just checkin'
[19:44] <Jazo> help plz
[19:44] <Amoz> Jazo, what kind of file is it?
[19:44] <forever2432> Jazo: i agree with ActionParsnip: sounds corrupt
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: what filesystem is the file stored on?
[19:44] <Jazo> it's .conf file
[19:45] <Amoz> Jazo, you sure?
[19:45] <Amoz> Jazo, sounds like it should be a binary executable file
[19:45] <forever2432> ActionParsnip: is'nt ./ usually a dir
[19:45] <Amoz> but seems to be corrupt
[19:45] <Jazo> i dont exactly sure but i cant make it work
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: conf files configure apps and are not apps themselves. The ELF64 from earlier means it is an app, so not a conf
[19:46] <zykotic10> forever2432: ./ means = from this location
[19:46] <nszeek> Hey guys, I am trying to make a fresh 11.10 install but I am getting stuck on the kernel loading from the installation media (firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 008f1300b8820c00, S400) and it doesn't do anything after that line. Any ideas ?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Forever: ./  just tells the interpreter to use pwd instead of $PATH
[19:47] <Jazo> ActionParsnip what should i do?
[19:47] <Jazo> what s wrong
[19:47] <forever2432> ActionParsnip: zykotic10: thank you for explaining :)
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: is it stored on a usb storage formatted ntf
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: *ntfs
[19:48] <Jazo> yes
[19:48] <capecarnation> join #pinguyos
[19:49] <crunchbang> Word
[19:49] <zykotic10> Jazo: FYI you can't use chmod/chown on FAT/NTFS partitions
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: that's why then. Ntfs cannot hold Linux permissions. You will need to either copy the file to a Linux filesystem, or remount the whole ntfs partition as executable
[19:49] <crunchbang> anyone know a good barebones distro with nasm and c?
[19:50] <capecarnation> anyone care to post their ideal partition structure?  i would like to set up the hard drive so that i can update the system without losing personal stuff, and to be able to try out new linux distros in a separate partition.
[19:50] <pottofenian> potato fenian suck my potato balls
[19:51] <ssta> capecarnation: I usually just have /home separate and everything else in one.  I use virtualbox for trying stuff out
[19:51] <Amoz> capecarnation, install / on one partition, and /home on another
[19:51] <brbsoup> oh halo thar
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> crunchbang: install ubuntu minimal, then install openbox and slim. Then the things you named. Will be as tight as it gets
[19:51] <Amoz> brbsoup, hai
[19:52] <P1rate> If you want to try new stuff you might want to look into lives cd's/usb
[19:52] <Amoz> capecarnation, just leave some unpartitioned space on the drive
[19:52] <brbsoup> doesnt ubuntu feed off hard work of debian developers
[19:52] <pottofenian> fuck off you fenian fat fucker go and go and die in the terroist attack like ur mum
[19:52] <capecarnation> brbsoup, trolling?
[19:52] <Amoz> brbsoup, that's what open source is all about
[19:53] <indranil> Which is   the     best driver for broadcom BCM43225?
[19:53] <brbsoup> google
[19:53] <capecarnation> i can't believe pottofenian would say something like that :/
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> capecarnation: just have 10gb per distro with one partition from swap and one for user data which all the distros will use
[19:53] <indranil> ?
[19:53] <oCean> brbsoup: do you have an actual support question? This is not the discussion channel
[19:53] <fairuz_> theadmin: My ubuntu stick with 11.04 and 11.10 works. Thanks a lot.
[19:53] <zykotic10> capecarnation: ignore the trolls, commending means they've accomplished there goal - to disrupt the channel
[19:53] <theadmin> fairuz_: np
[19:53] <brbsoup> wheres discussion channel my only question sorry
[19:54] <indranil> anyone?
[19:54] <capecarnation> zykotic10, okay, thanks.
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | indranil
[19:54] <pangolin> brbsoup: #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:54] <oCean> brbsoup: you can use #ubuntu-offtopic, but !coc and !guidelines apply there as well
[19:54] <brbsoup> kthxbai
[19:54] <P1rate> zykotic10: dont feed the troll let it burst into fire? :P
[19:54] <indranil> thanks people
[19:54] <crunchbang> bar
[19:56] <Jazo> fukk
[19:56] <LjL> Jazo: no need for that.
[19:57] <Jazo> sorry
[19:58] <Jazo> its not working..
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> Details please
[19:59] <zykotic10> Jazo: what did you say was the output of "uname -m" again?
[19:59] <Jazo> zykotic10 amd64
[19:59] <zykotic10> Jazo: i don't think so...
[20:00] <Jazo> could be something wrong with conf file?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> zykotic10: the file is stored on ntfs so needs mounting differently
[20:00] <zykotic10> ActionParsnip: that's certainly an issue as well!  but amd64 isn't a valid output from "uname -m"
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: the file isn't executable. Its nothing to do with any other file
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> zykotic10: hmm
[20:01] <pow4h>  I have int fd=rb->open("/myfile",O_RDONLY);   char array[10];   rb->read(fd,array,1);   rb->splashf(100,"%d",fd);   rb->splashf(100,"%d",array[0]);.   Is char array[10]; the only line of code responsible for displaying the data file's bits as characters?
[20:01] <Jazo> ActionParsnip it was working
[20:02] <Jazo> not it s not
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[20:02] <frezz22> hola
[20:03] <Jazo> ActionParsnip lsb_release: Command not found.
[20:03] <frezz22> quiero saber si hay canales espanol por aqui
[20:03] <Pici> !es | frezz22
[20:03] <frezz22> gracias
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: and the output of: cat /etc/lsb-release
[20:04] <Jazo> cat: /etc/lsb-release: No such file or directory
[20:04] <zykotic10> Jazo: what gnu/linux distro are you using?
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: you aren't using ubuntu
[20:04] <Jazo> FreeBSD
[20:05] <zykotic10> lol
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: in ubuntu BOTH those commands would succeed
[20:05] <forever2432> jeez
[20:05] <aeon-ltd> it appears the problem has been solved
[20:05] <zykotic10> ActionParsnip: perhaps amd64 is valid for FreeBSD's "uname -m" ;)
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: then why are you asking for bsd support in an ubuntu Linux channel
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> zykotic10: nice
[20:06] <Jazo> is there a channel for frebsd ?
[20:06] <Pici> Jazo: ##freebsd
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: no, this is #ubuntu
[20:07] <dtcrshr> ActionParsnip: iv fully updated / upgraded the del530, also after this did a dist-upgrade so the new kernels were installed, and double checked the notebook bios for the wireless switch. Iv disabled the switch to let the wifi be always on, but yet still i have no wireless
[20:07] <dtcrshr> any clues?
[20:07] <Jazo> cant u help?
[20:07] <Pici> Jazo: no. This channel is for Ubuntu only.
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Jazo: bsd is offtopic here
[20:07] <DJones> Jazo: http://wiki.freebsd.org/IrcChannels
[20:08] <macmartine> I have cron jobs that are chrooted (by default by ISPConfig). They aren't getting run due to permissions. So what do I need to do to give it the proper permissions?
[20:08] <Jazo> thanks
[20:08] <forever2432> Jazo: or just install ubuntu
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: run:   dmesg | less    and read the boot, see how the kernel sets up the wifi
[20:10] <Jazo> forever2432 how?
[20:11] <forever2432>  Jazo: download an iso or order a cd for install
[20:13] <dtcrshr> can i concatenate dmesg | less | grep broadcom? (iv tryed wireless, wi-fi, wifi, bcm4311, etc...)
[20:13] <CFHowlett> dtcrshr   I've been forced to learn a whole lot about broadcom wifi installation.  Can I help?
[20:14] <zykotic10> dtcrshr: you should probably be using "grep -i .." for case insenstive searching
[20:14] <dtcrshr> ActionParsnip: iv oppened the aditional drivers, theres the wireless broadcom sta installed, but yet still it wont work
[20:14] <dtcrshr> CFHowlett: oh please! im struggling for some time now
[20:14] <dtcrshr> im on a dell latitude d530
[20:15] <CFHowlett> dtcrshr   and the wifi version?
[20:15] <dtcrshr> lspci gives me bcm4311
[20:15] <dtcrshr> 802.11a/b/g rev 01
[20:15] <CFHowlett> dtcrshr   wait 1
[20:15] <dtcrshr> ok
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: dmesg | egrep -i 'wireless|8024|broad'
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Ok change 8024 to 802
[20:16] <alaing> how do I save a file in vim?
[20:16] <CFHowlett> dtcrshr   ubuntu version
[20:16] <Pici> alaing: :w
[20:16] <theadmin> alaing: :w (:write)
[20:16] <alaing> so :qw?
[20:17] <dtcrshr> CFHowlett: 11.10, downloaded yesterday morning
[20:17] <theadmin> alaing: :wq
[20:17] <dtcrshr> fully updated / upgraded
[20:17] <alaing> makes sense thank you
[20:17] <dtcrshr> on the wired connection
[20:17] <oCean> alaing: :x is save+quit also
[20:17] <CFHowlett> dtcrshr   "by the numbers" i.e. step by step using this tutorial:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[20:18] <alaing> oCean: thanks but i think :wq is easier to remember write and quit
[20:18] <CFHowlett> dtcrshr   by my reading you should use the STA Internet Access method.
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: if you run: dmesg | grep -i firm    do you get a few lines about missing firmware?
[20:19] <dtcrshr> im removing the sta from the aditional drivers, just in case
[20:20] <CFHowlett> dtcrshr   let's NOT change the proven method just yet...
[20:20] <dtcrshr> ActionParsnip: i get two errord, firmware bug
[20:20] <dtcrshr> one about the acpi / bios query ignores
[20:21] <dtcrshr> and other about acpi video bus duplicated, please try module parameter bla bla bla
[20:21] <dtcrshr> nothing about wireless
[20:21] <dtcrshr> ill try the CFHowlett steps, just a momemt
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: ok, if you run:   sudo iwlist scan     do you see access points?
[20:22] <dtcrshr> no, i have only lo and eth0
[20:22] <dtcrshr> none scanning suported
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Bah
[20:24] <miller_ss> hey guys
[20:24] <CFHowlett> miller_ss   greetings
[20:24] <miller_ss> is it ok to use ubuntu server 32bit on developement?
[20:24] <miller_ss> and deploying thing on 64bit server?
[20:25] <CFHowlett> miller_ss   64 will run 32 IIRC but not the inverse.
[20:25] <miller_ss> yah i know that
[20:26] <Kircle> Guys what panel applet sensor can I use to monitor my CPU's temp? I tried several ones but they didn't appear to reconise my CPU (Intel core i5).
[20:27] <zykotic10> miller_ss: you "may" run into unexpected issues developing on 32bit and deploying on 64bit.  Why not have them the same?  good luck.
[20:27] <SpiderFred> hi just the quick question: Did girls in the past, like middle ages had menstruation as often as do girls today?
[20:27] <oCean> SpiderFred: wrong channel
[20:28] <miller_ss> zykotic10, thanks. just asking. haven't tried yet.
[20:28] <SpiderFred> oCean: I was looking for channel about menstuation but I didnt find one
[20:28] <CFHowlett> SpiderFred   go to goole.
[20:29] <CFHowlett> SpiderFred   go to google
[20:29] <forever2432> SpiderFred: this is'nt the channel about your girlfriend!
[20:30] <oCean> SpiderFred: for help with the network, /join #freenode channel, you can use /msg alis list  *search*  to search for channels. This channel is for Ubuntu tech support only
[20:30] <prapto> testing chat
[20:31] <SpiderFred> ok bye
[20:31] <naftilos76> hi everyone, i need to make a script to connect via ssh to my remote server, dump my database and close the connection and finally end the script. However when i run the script i can see that i am connected to my ssh server but i need to type all the rest to dump the database and close the connection. There is obviously something i need to add to the script to execute all commands. Can anyone help?
[20:32] <miller_ss> naftilos76, connect to ssh, dump your data, zip it, download... not easier option?
[20:33] <naftilos76> miller_ss: i need that in a script. Can you help?
[20:33] <bluefrog_> naftilos76, what for? what is the final goal?
[20:33] <LarsN> how would I go about determining which version of mesa is installed on my linux system?
[20:33] <LarsN> or, do you know off hand which version is likely to be included in 12.04
[20:34] <bluefrog_> naftilos76, you want to retrieve the dumped db zt home, correct?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> LarsN: dpkg -l | grep mesa
[20:34] <CFHowlett> !precise|naftilos76
[20:34] <naftilos76> bluefrog_: i need to put the script into cron and dump my file everyday or whenever i want
[20:35] <LarsN> ActionParsnip: thank you.
[20:35] <_Marcus> CFHowlett: I think you sent that to wrong person
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> LarsN: check packages.ubuntu.com
[20:35] <naftilos76> bluefrog_: do i need to elaborate more on that?
[20:35] <_Marcus> CFHowlett: He didn't say anything about Percise at all, I doubt he is even using it.
[20:35] <CFHowlett> _Marcus   quite possible -
[20:35] <bluefrog_> naftilos76, no. the first sentence was not that elaborate, now we know what you want to do
[20:35] <alaing> to copy a file to the current direct is it simply cp /foo/foo.php?
[20:36]  * dtcrshr cryes for his lack of success
[20:36] <zykotic10> alaing: you need a . for current directory so "cp /foo/foo.php ."
[20:37] <indranil> I'm trying to install broadcom drivers for  43225        when I   activate    them in additional drivers  I get this
[20:37] <indranil> "Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log"
[20:37] <indranil> http://pastebin.com/zfCd6erX
[20:37] <indranil> paste of that log
[20:37] <LarsN> CFHowlett: the answer btw is 8.0.0
[20:37] <dtcrshr> CFHowlett: well, as the guide you sent me, iv followed the guides for the STA drivers. first iv went online via cable connection, and via synaptic iv reinstalled the bcmwl-kernel-source as told. after i was able to enable the sta driver via the aditional ones, it gets active ok, rebooted, still active, but i have no wireless
[20:37] <alaing> zykotic10: thank you I thought something wasn't quiet right. can i use a relative path from the current directory?
[20:37] <naftilos76> bluefrog_: A script obviously behaves differently than a konsole prompt. Do you know what i need to add to the code to make all commands after the "ssh bla bla bla my_server" ?
[20:38] <indranil> hope someone kind enough would help
[20:38] <zykotic10> alaing: well yes, actually . is a relative path
[20:38] <dtcrshr> is there any other way i can go / troubleshoot?
[20:38] <naftilos76> bluefrog_: i meant  make the rest of the commands execute
[20:38] <bluefrog_> naftilos76, if you can wait I may be able to retrieve something I put in place on a server to do exactly what you want to do
[20:39] <indranil> I  tried reinstalling bcmwl kernel source
[20:39] <bluefrog_> naftilos76, just need time to search for it
[20:39] <CFHowlett> dtcrshr   see the modprobe section - had the same thing happen to me.
[20:39] <indranil> and restarting
[20:39] <naftilos76> i do something similar with ftp command via script
[20:39] <CFHowlett> dtcrshr   specifically step 3 sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb sl && sudo modprobe wl
[20:40] <naftilos76> bluefrog_: what makes the difference is that at the end of the first line i have to add "<< EOT" and also at the last line of the code
[20:40] <CFHowlett> indranil   broadcom 43225??
[20:41] <naftilos76> bluefrog_: if i do not add the "<< EOT" only the first line executes
[20:41] <indranil> yes CFHowlett
[20:41] <Ebron> Any suggestions on good resources for securing ubuntu with services, and also some good resources for intrusion detection and handling?
[20:41] <_Marcus> How do I create a new partition with cfdisk or fdisk?
[20:41] <CFHowlett> dtcrshr   btw, last time I fixed this, I performed the STA no internet access method - worked out of the box.  Go figure
[20:41] <naftilos76> i tried the same with ssh but it doesn't work
[20:42] <CFHowlett> indranil   run the command and the end and report the BCM####   lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[20:42] <CFHowlett> indranil   lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[20:43] <indranil> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe [14e4:1692] (rev 01)
[20:43] <indranil> 04:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n [14e4:4357] (rev 01)
[20:43] <indranil> ind
[20:43] <FloodBot1> indranil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <dtcrshr> CFHowlett: yeah... bizzarre. ill give it a shot also
[20:43] <indranil> Sorry
[20:43] <BigNuke> that's a bot indranil ;)
[20:43] <indranil> I know I am telling sorry to  people
[20:44] <dtcrshr> well, after the modprobe commands Iv waited a little but yet still isnt working. ill try the offline sta method anyway
[20:44] <CFHowlett> indranil   OK, I haven't done your exact chip, but I've used the method that works.  2 questions: what version of ubuntu and does the computer currently online via hardwire?
[20:44] <indranil> I'm  actually using mint 12.                       And lan to  connect to net
[20:45] <indranil> ubuntu oneiric it is
[20:45] <theadmin> indranil: Mint isn't supported here.
[20:45] <saml> with upstart, I want to do script python foo.py & python foo.bar  end script
[20:45] <indranil> I hope you can support the part general to ubuntu
[20:45] <saml> shold I use expect fork?
[20:45] <zykotic10> !mint | indranil
[20:46] <indranil> That chan is useless tbh.
[20:46] <CFHowlett> indranil   without going all into it, this is what you want:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[20:46] <naftilos76> bluefrog_: i think i got it please do not bother
[20:46] <bluefrog_> naftilos76, ok
[20:46] <indranil> I was  installing the driver reading that page CFHowlett
[20:46] <indranil> That's when I got this error
[20:46] <indranil> http://pastebin.com/zfCd6erX
[20:47] <indranil> paste bin of log
[20:47] <oversight> test
[20:47] <CFHowlett> indranil   look close.  ALL the wifi drivers are blacklisted.  ALL ...
[20:47] <theadmin> indranil: Mint does changes that neither the Ubuntu team, nor people here, are aware of. This is the reason this channel doesn't offer Mint support.
[20:48] <mish-> Can anyone tell me why the "Ubuntu Server 11.10 ISO" works perfectly, yet the "mini.iso" (Minimal Install) leaves the system unable to boot off LVM based partitions. I've managed to fix this, but I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas why the two installs methods differ?
[20:48] <UnknownFearNG> Hello all. I installed openssh-server on my computer but I cannot ssh into it from my Android phone
[20:48] <indranil> I wasnt sure which ones to remove from blaclist
[20:48] <indranil> okay  theadmin
[20:48] <indranil> I get it
[20:49] <indranil> I thought it was more of a general hardware issue
[20:49] <guntbert> !enter | indranil
[20:49] <theadmin> indranil: Therefore, please join the Mint support channel. Even if it is a general Ubuntu issue, the channel likely will be unable to help you because of the Mint's changes.
[20:49] <Subject1ne> how do i switch window in irssi ?
[20:49] <indranil> Okay   fine.        Thanks.
[20:49] <indranil> Thanks CFHowlett
[20:50] <zykotic10> Subject1ne: alt+arrow or alt+NUMBER
[20:50] <indranil> Bye
[20:50] <Subject1ne> ah thanx
[20:50] <CFHowlett> indranil  goodl luck
[20:50] <ady> how can i fix mouse?? i need driver to work propretly?
[20:50] <atpa8a> hello
[20:50] <guntbert> UnknownFearNG: can you ping your server from the phone? can you ssh into your server from the server itself? Can you test from another computer?
[20:51] <atpa8a> which dpkg creates the admin group?..
[20:51] <Sami345> My Ubuntu Software Center just broke :(
[20:51] <Sami345> http://i.servut.us/i/Screenshot_at_20120229_224952.png
[20:51] <_Marcus> How do I create a new partition with cfdisk or fdisk?
[20:51] <UnknownFearNG> guntbert: I can ping the server from the phone as well as ssh into the server from the server itself. I have not tried a test from another computer. I will do that now and get back to you
[20:52] <zykotic10> _Marcus: "fdisk /device" then "n" to create a new parition
[20:52] <CFHowlett> _Marcus   see http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/fdisk_partitioning.html
[20:52] <_Marcus> Does the device have to exist for me to use it?
[20:53] <zykotic10> _Marcus: of course, you can't partition "nothing"
[20:53] <forever2432>  _Marcus: just check fdisk -l
[20:53] <Sami345> I was trying to install google chrome. It said internal error. I ran sudo apt-get install -f. It installed two packages. Now my software center looks like this http://i.servut.us/i/Screenshot_at_20120229_224952.png
[20:53] <bastidrazor> Sami345: stop that.
[20:53] <CFHowlett> Sami345   stop it.
[20:53] <Sami345> What I should stop?
[20:53] <crizzy> lol
[20:53] <crizzy> bot failure
[20:53] <_Marcus> zykotic10: How do I see my main partition, then?
[20:54] <zykotic10> _Marcus: "sudo fdisk -l"
[20:54] <Jak2000> i am installed Ubuntu Desktop and want create a Command for can access the TERMINAL, ask me wich command is for run the terminal? any advice?
[20:54] <CFHowlett> Ignore user example: /ignore sami345
[20:55] <Sami345> CFHowlett, Well you're a nice person/bot... :D
[20:55] <_Marcus> Jak2000: Which command is to run the terminal? What?
[20:55] <_Marcus> zykotic10: is it the one with the most blocks?
[20:55] <forever2432>  _Marcus:  run "fdisk -l" to list the attached media
[20:55] <Jak2000> _Marcus...
[20:55] <zykotic10> _Marcus: i can't possibly know, it's your computer...
[20:55] <UnknownFearNG> guntbert: I can infact ssh into my Ubuntu server from a different computer
[20:55] <Jak2000> what is the command, for run the terminal?
[20:56] <bastidrazor> Jak2000: gnome-terminal ?
[20:56] <zykotic10> forever2432: fyi you need "sudo fdisk -l" in order to see anything
[20:56] <Oer> Jak2000, ctrl + alt + T
[20:56] <forever2432> zykotic10: sorry i usually use sudo -s first
[20:57] <forever2432> zykotic10:  you could "sudo -s && fdisk -l"
[20:58] <guntbert> UnknownFearNG: ok, that eliminates a few possibilities :-/  - at the moment I tend to see the phone as the culprit - or did you set any firewall rules on your server that might prevent the phone from connectiong?
[20:58] <zykotic10> forever2432: did you try your suggestion?  i doubt it would work like that... i can't test, no sudo here.
[20:59] <UnknownFearNG> guntbert: iptables is blank; nothing there that I would presume is the cause
[21:00] <forever2432> zykotic10: true back to basics "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:00] <guntbert> UnknownFearNG: next test: do you have any other ssh-server available?
[21:00] <UnknownFearNG> guntbert: No, I only have Ubuntu
[21:01] <guntbert> UnknownFearNG: we are getting rather off topic here - please join me in ##networking for the next steps
[21:01] <UnknownFearNG> guntbert: OK
[21:01] <fairuz_> I just setup a machine to be a cache server using apt-cacher. Can I fill up the cache using a 10.04 liveCD on another machine, by upgrading it to 11.10?
[21:01] <dfdfdf> What is the best email client for ubuntu with exchange (BPOS) support?
[21:02] <Zal> UnknownFearNG, is your phone connected to the same network as your server?
[21:02] <UnknownFearNG> Zal: Yes
[21:03] <forever2432> dfdfdf: I've run through most of them and found Evolution to have the most features
[21:03] <zykotic10> dfdfdf: i wouldn't consider exchange "email" but i know what you mean.  to my knowledge, Evolution is probably your best bet.  good luck.
[21:04] <dfdfdf> Yeah, it is how things are setup and some people use ubuntu for some specific programs :) I figured Evolution was the best....I heard Thunderbird with devmail installed may also work.
[21:04] <niko-nojo> Hi there - is it possible to create a keyboard shortcut to get two windows to snap - one left and one right ? I managed to find a little app in ubuntu to do this but I can't remember its name. Not found much on Google. I know you can manually drag a window left or right. Any idea ?
[21:04] <Zal> plain thunderbird works for me. Kmail 4.5.5 did not
[21:05] <haylo> ubuntu keeps saying that i t wants to put me in low graphics mode. I do not need this prompt. i need to go straight to a shell and then start x with startx. What am i missing here ? i have removed gdm and [sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove]. i even added .xinitrc to root and home with exec openbox-session? agian what am i missing here? any advice?
[21:05] <theadmin> niko-nojo: It's there by default. Super + right arrow or super + left arrow. Super + app to maximize.
[21:05] <theadmin> s/app/up/
[21:05] <zykotic10> haylo: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:05] <haylo> 11.04
[21:06] <forever2432> dfdfdf: I had some trouble with certificates in Thunderbird
[21:06] <Ardalrian> ö
[21:06] <dfdfdf> Ah :(
[21:06] <niko-nojo> @theadmin -  Super ?
[21:06] <zykotic10> !text | haylo
[21:07] <bastidrazor> haylo: add 'text' to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=  line in /etc/default/grub
[21:07] <_Marcus> Is it possible to format the device that I am on in Ubuntu?
[21:07] <bastidrazor> haylo: after saving the file do a sudo update-grub
[21:07] <haylo> thanks zykotic10 and bastidrazor :) !!
[21:07] <bastidrazor> oh, i missed the factoid
[21:07] <theadmin> niko-nojo: Yes, the Super key on your keyboard. It's "Cmd" on Macs and "Windows logo thingy key" on most keyboards
[21:08] <nopf> _Marcus: why should that be possible?
[21:08] <zykotic10> _Marcus: the answer is no
[21:08] <zykotic10> _Marcus: try LiveCD/USB instead
[21:09] <niko-nojo> theadmin - nothing happens
[21:09] <theadmin> niko-nojo: Hm, are you using the full session or "Ubuntu 2D"?
[21:09] <niko-nojo> theadmin - using kubuntu
[21:09] <theadmin> niko-nojo: Ah.
[21:09] <uictamale> dfdfdf: I'd suggest outlook through Wine
[21:09] <theadmin> niko-nojo: Hm, give me a second
[21:10] <dfdfdf> Oh yeah! Good call!
[21:10] <dfdfdf> I didn't think about that.
[21:10] <theadmin> niko-nojo: Go to: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts -> KDE Component: KWin -> Quick Tile Windows to the Left/Right and you can configure the shortcuts there
[21:12] <forever2432> uictamale:  outlook through wine is really unstable, is yours working correctly?
[21:15] <bluefrog_> naftilos76, you got it working?
[21:15] <niko-nojo> theadmin - is there a way to get a window to go left and a window to go right with one keyboard shortcut
[21:16] <tommylommykins> I installed ubuntu on a machine with an ATI/AMD 5-series graphics card.
[21:16] <tommylommykins> Then I installed FGLRX, and it failed to reboot
[21:16] <tommylommykins> Can anyone confirm this is expected
[21:16] <tommylommykins> Because FGLRX + 5 series cards is still broken?
[21:17] <tommylommykins> ohwait, it did boot, just took extra long...
[21:19] <godofwar> unity panel disappeared after cinnamon installation, any ideas anyone?
[21:20] <naftilos76> bluefrog_: more or less
[21:20] <naftilos76> thanks
[21:20] <Canadian1296> Where would you suggest I start, to figure out how to set up a mail server?
[21:21] <zykotic10> godofwar: Cinnamon is not an available package on ubuntu, and is thus offtopic.
[21:22] <CFHowlett> Canadian1296   see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers#Mail.2C_Groupware.2C_and_Chat_Servers
[21:22] <kwikness> has anyone disabled the ubuntu startup sound?
[21:23] <Canadian1296> CFHowlett: Thanks
[21:24] <theadmin> kwikness: That's a simple one: go to "Startup Applications" and unmark "GNOME Startup sound"
[21:25] <Naggu> I have WoW game copied to external hard disk. Now that my laptop is ubuntu only, how can I play WoW from this folder without downloading again through wine.
[21:25] <kwikness> naggu, reinstall windoze
[21:26] <godofwar> Naggu: VM works awesome
[21:26] <zykotic10> godofwar: for games?  you must be kidding.
[21:26] <theadmin> Naggu: Windows software is not supported here. To install Wine, follow the instructions at http://winehq.org . To get support with Windows apps, visit http://appdb.winehq.org or /join #winehq
[21:26] <Naggu> playing in VM seems slow
[21:26] <skorket> I'm running Ubuntu 11.10, 3.0.0-15-generic.  I have noticed in the past few days that my computer freezes when I connect an arduino through the USB for a sufficient amount of time.  I have music playing through mplayer and when the computer freezes, mplayer is still running but no mouse input and no keyboard input are allowed and the screen stops updating.  Any suggestions on how to fix this or even debug the problem?
[21:26] <godofwar> zykotic10: not with a rig like mine.  I VM windows 7 and run BF3 and Skyrim full graphics
[21:27] <Naggu> I mean, I saw many thread people playing WoW in ubuntu but they all downloaded it
[21:27] <CFHowlett> godofwar   reinstall window$?  I think not...
[21:27] <Naggu> I got only 4gb ram duh
[21:27] <saquib> k
[21:27] <godofwar> CFHowlett: would you like a picture or video
[21:28] <olala22000> hi good evening
[21:28] <CFHowlett> godofwar   no thank you.
[21:28] <CFHowlett> olala22000   greetings
[21:28] <godofwar> I also VM winXP to run some old Cobol software
[21:28] <godofwar> CFHowlett: lol
[21:31] <CharminTheMoose> Quick question, why does 'su' not have the SUID bit set by default on 11.04? su - otheruser returns 'Authentication failure' without it.
[21:31] <guntbert> !sudo | CharminTheMoose
[21:32] <mehmet> Hello, how come i have packages from natty when i have oneiric? http://pastebin.com/pCsH6m9a
[21:32] <guntbert> CharlieSu: you don't use su, use sudo
[21:32] <CharminTheMoose> guntbert, I'm aware of that, but that doesn't answer my question.
[21:32] <LjL> guntbert: to switch to another user "su" would be appropriate, though. and it should be SUID root
[21:33] <guntbert> LjL: ack
[21:33] <dbugger> Im using Oneiric and when I start skype, the icon doesnt appear anymore up next to the clock. I cant recover it anymore when I minimize it. Is there a fix for this?
[21:33] <FishErr> http://happy-coding.com/install-sun-java6-jdk-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid/  - I try install sun java to 10.04 , but "Package sun-java6-jdk is not available, but is referred to by another package.".  I have added source to sources list and uptate, but it did not change anything.
[21:33] <mehmet> i don't know how i ended up with natty packages in oneiric, but i'd like to be able to do that on another computer too
[21:34] <mehmet> FishErr: sun jdk was removed in 11.10
[21:34] <FishErr> 10.04
[21:34] <mehmet> oh
[21:34] <CharminTheMoose> I mean, from a security pov.. if the default root account is locked, how does 'su' present any more of a security risk of needing the user you're switching to's password, vs just doing 'sudo su - otheruser' and gaining instant access?
[21:34] <CFHowlett> dbugger   skype for linux is @ beta and will likely be forever.  Expect more issues with each ubuntu upgrade...
[21:34] <mehmet> FishErr: you might have restricted / extras disabled in your sources.list
[21:34] <Naggu> ya that sucks
[21:34] <urfr332gO> dbugger, does it ever show in the unity bar on the left?
[21:34] <dbugger> CFHowlett, but it worked before in Natty.
[21:35] <dbugger> urfr332gO, yes it does
[21:35] <bluefrog_> CharlieSu, maybe just a bug in your puter. I don't have a 11.04 on hand, but it works in 10.10 and 11.10
[21:36] <urfr332gO> dbugger, right click it and save it to that panel to always shows, to start with maybe at least to have access to it.
[21:36] <bluefrog_> CharminTheMoose, , maybe just a bug in your puter. I don't have a 11.04 on hand, but it works in 10.10 and 11.10
[21:36] <CharlieSu> guntbert: lol..  was that meant for me?
[21:36]  * CharlieSu not CharminTheMoose 
[21:36]  * CharminTheMoose chucks his computer out the window
[21:36] <guntbert> CharlieSu: no, sorry, I only mistabbed :)
[21:37] <CharminTheMoose> yes, you're right bluefrog_!
[21:37] <CharminTheMoose> Was looking at this debootstrap install of 11.04. :P
[21:37] <dbugger> urfr332gO, the problem is that I minimize it always with ALT+f4. And then the unity panel wont maximize it back
[21:37] <P1rate> Hello :)
[21:40] <sharpK> so XBMC froze and I can't access unity, issues a kill (through ssh), but everything is stuck, tried "unity" (still stuck). am I missing out on a command here?
[21:40] <L3top> dbugger: alt f4 does not minimize, it closes.
[21:40] <dbugger> L3top, yeah, But in skype, it doesnt
[21:40] <L3top> ah
[21:40] <L3top> sorry
[21:40] <L3top> just looked up and saw that
[21:41] <dbugger> I know :)
[21:42] <urfr332gO> dbugger, there appears to be problems with skype in general with the unity desktop, you might try gnome 3
[21:42] <prower> hello :> i've asked about this before so forgive me...but since 10.04 on my system, if i plug in a usb mass storage device (i.e. hard drive, thumb drive), then plug in _another_ one at the same time, i get all sorts of usb errors and both devices potentially become corrupted :< usually requiring a reboot...anyone have a guess as to what might be going on?  the hardware itself seems perfectly fine
[21:42] <CharlieSu> sharpK: restart?
[21:42] <CharlieSu> prower: get the output from dmesg so we can see what it may be
[21:43] <dbugger> urfr332gO, I dont want to change my whole desktop system to get skype working :(
[21:43] <sharpK> CharlieSu: restarting the whole machine is not much of a solution to me, I guess, because it happens too often that xbmc will freeze. was trying to figure out a way to properly terminate unity and restart it...?
[21:43] <urfr332gO> dbugger, you may have to. :)
[21:43] <prower> CharlieSu: Alright...that is very likely going to crash my system but I can try to make a log of it as quickly as possible :> Just one minute
[21:44] <CharlieSu> sharpK: get the output of 'pstree' so we can see what processes are still running.
[21:44] <urfr332gO> dbugger, skpye is not exactly pro open source I'm surprised it is usable at all to be honest.
[21:45] <CFHowlett> dbugger   skype is now owned by microsoft.  expect no further linux support.
[21:45] <dbugger> CFHowlett,  urfr332gO, it has been working all right in skype the last 5 years...
[21:45] <dbugger> in Ubuntu*
[21:45] <urfr332gO> dbugger, with another desktop.
[21:45] <CFHowlett> dbugger   things change...
[21:45] <mrdeb> hi
[21:45] <dbugger> but natty also used Unity and it worked all right
[21:46] <dbugger> there should be some sort of fix
[21:46] <mrdeb> is unity broken
[21:46] <urfr332gO> mrdeb, no just changing.
[21:46] <prower> CharlieSu: So far so good :P The crash occurs when I try to move a file on or off the thumb drive, giving it a try now
[21:46] <mrdeb> huh what is wrong
[21:46] <mrdeb> should i dl 1204 now
[21:46] <CharlieSu> prower: get a list of all of the mountpoints as well
[21:47] <CharlieSu> prower: if you're automounting then anything could be happening
[21:47] <CFHowlett> mrdeb   12.04 is still in alpha ...
[21:47] <urfr332gO> mrdeb, 12.04 is #ubuntu+1 ask this is support not what should I do.
[21:47] <mrdeb> i know that
[21:48] <AcidRain> RTL8111/8168B drops connection roughly once every 2 days and fails to reconnect. does anyone have any suggestion on how to fix this or a work around? its wired
[21:49] <prower> CharlieSu: Oh yes, it's the automounting that's blowing up i believe...the drives disappear, get remounted, disappear, etc. until the whole system craps out
[21:49] <CharlieSu> prower: yeah more than likely that is the issue..
[21:50] <prower> CharlieSu: Hmm...so perhaps the best thing to do would be to do the /etc/fstab entries for them myself? oddly enough this isn't an issue in any other distro i've tried...even fedora, and everything is an issue in that ;>
[21:51] <CharlieSu> prower: that would be the immediate fix..  but i'd still try to figure out what the issue was if it were me..  just so that i knew..
[21:51] <Canadian1296> How do I clean up from a failed "make install"?
[21:51] <urfr332gO> AcidRain, If it was me I would buy a cheap usb wireless if that is what you use, and a cheap ether usb I got one for 5$, that all work out of the box.
[21:52] <prower> Charlie: Yeah, I'd like to know myself...and why it's just ubuntu specifically, since that release onward :/ 11.10 has been flawless for me otherwise
[21:52] <CharlieSu>  Canadian1296: clean up artifacts that were put on your system?  Or just the build env?  'make clean' for the latter.
[21:52] <AcidRain> urfr332gO: what type of eth card did you buy? i want the same one you got if it works great
[21:52] <Canadian1296> CharlieSu: As in I ran 'make install' and it compiled a lot of files then failed on one
[21:52] <squircle> hi everyone, I had a crash and lost my boot partition. I've managed to recover everything except the kernel, initrd etc. in /boot; how can I re-install everything I need for my system to boot? (ubuntu 10.04)
[21:53] <urfr332gO> AcidRain, a cheap no name off of amazon hold on I will see if I can find it
[21:53] <Canadian1296> squircle: You should be able to boot from a livecd and copy over what you need.
[21:53] <CharlieSu> Canadian1296: generally 'make' will do the compilation and 'make install' will put the compiled software on your system..
[21:53] <javierf_> Hi. I need to be using superuser continously in ubuntu 11.10, so when I'm using chrome, it's as superuser. Is that possible?
[21:53] <squircle> Canadian1296: awesome, thanks.
[21:53] <CharlieSu> Canadian1296: this is why you should always supply a prefix on your ./configure command so that you can specifiy where these files go
[21:54] <macmartine> I have a cron job running under a chrooted user. It's not getting run so I'm trying to find something in a log but coming up with nothing. Any ideas?
[21:54] <urfr332gO> AcidRain, not a card a usb
[21:54] <Canadian1296> CharlieSu: Without thinking I ran "make install" without "make" first. Does that mean since it failed during compiling it hasn't installed yet?
[21:54] <AcidRain> hmmm
[21:54] <CharlieSu> Canadian1296: yeah you're good..  just run everything again
[21:54] <AcidRain> urfr332gO: i think i have a usb that can connect to my bridge and to the ubuntu box. let me see if i can find it
[21:54] <prower> CharlieSu: Hmm...seems to have stalled on copying a 600MB file to the usb thumb drive, but so far no errors in dmesg :/
[21:55] <CharlieSu> Canadian1296: use ./configure --prefix=/usr/local   && make && sudo make install
[21:55] <CharlieSu> prower: what is the filesystem on the thumb drive?
[21:56] <prower> CharlieSu: nautilus lists it as msdos, so most likely fat16?
[21:56] <wrektjet> how do i connect to an ftp? i used to go to connect to network i believe but on unity im not sure what to do im blanking
[21:56] <CharlieSu> prower: look on the command line...
[21:57] <nate_h> is there a way to not have a package restart its services when I install it?
[21:57] <nate_h> the services are managed via our cluster software
[21:57] <forever2432>  squircle:	if you don't come right with livecd try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r)"
[21:57] <nate_h> i can't have it restarting if I update it
[21:57] <urfr332gO> AcidRain, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BL3M3U/ref=oh_o04_s00_i00_details  just needs a driver for windows it is included.
[21:57] <nate_h> i found something about adding stuff to /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d with an exit statement
[21:58] <nate_h> but that screws up other stuff
[21:58] <Canadian1296> CharlieSu: I ran "./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make" (just to be safe :) ) and it finished successfully. Does the prefix on configure affect where make install will put the software?
[21:58] <BlueWolf> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 10.04 - How do I change the mouse courser theme? I have downloaded one.
[21:58] <squircle> forever2432: I dunno if that uname -r will work... right now, I'm chroot'ed into my ubuntu install booted off a Finnix (debian) disc
[21:58] <CharlieSu> nate_h: i've looked into this before and found the same thing..  that is a terrible way..  I haven't found a good way to do this yet.
[21:58] <AcidRain> urfr332gO: that looks pretty nice... so it works out of box for ubuntu?
[21:58] <CharlieSu> Canadian1296: yes.. that is exactly what it does
[21:58] <KingSphinx> Anyone else having an issue with Skype not using the system cursor theme or sound settings?
[21:58] <nate_h> CharlieSu, ya because i have other stuff in puppet that fail because the services can't be checked if they are enabled anymore
[21:59] <forever2432> squircle: true it won't work
[21:59] <CharlieSu> nate_h: heh..  use Chef instead :)
[21:59] <Canadian1296> CharlieSu: Im compiling atheme for use with ircd-irc2. Will it still install properly?
[21:59] <CharlieSu> Canadian1296: not sure on specifics..  try...
[21:59] <nate_h> CharlieSu, well the problem is if I want to enable a serivce
[21:59] <Canadian1296> CharlieSu: Alright
[21:59] <urfr332gO> AcidRain, yeb plug and play lan only not a wireless.
[21:59] <urfr332gO> yep*
[22:00] <CharlieSu> nate_h: how does puppet to service checks?  I can specify a command w/ chef
[22:00] <nate_h> the method puppet uses to check if a service is enabled fails because of the policy-rc.d
[22:00] <AcidRain> urfr332gO: thanks man. im going to buy this one right now
[22:00] <nate_h> CharlieSu, invoke-rc.d --query <service> start
[22:00] <nate_h> then checks return code
[22:00] <patrunjel> Hi. I once found a tool that would make tty just like a GUI. Not really, actually, you couldn't click stuff, it still was a terminal, but it had all kinds of customization (like the absolute path of the file in the upper part of the screen, and the clock), way more information than you can stuff in PS1. Does anyone happen to know any program that would do this?
[22:00] <BlueWolf> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 10.04 - How do I change the mouse courser theme? I have downloaded one.
[22:00] <nate_h> CharlieSu, i could hack a fix in by replacing that with like chkconfig or somethig
[22:00] <urfr332gO> AcidRain, gets kind of hot so warned, I assume it will last a certain amount of time I have only used it periodically.
[22:01] <CharlieSu> nate_h: sorry man.. Chef does it totally different so i'm not sure i coudl help out
[22:01] <Canadian1296> CharlieSu: I hit an error. A "could not stat es.mo, no such file or directory." how do I clear what had already been installed so I can try again?
[22:01] <CharlieSu> nate_h: i can tell you that i've looked into the service restart problem before and i never found a good answer
[22:01] <nate_h> CharlieSu, damn
[22:01] <nate_h> CharlieSu, is there any way for policy-rc.d to detect which service ?
[22:02] <nate_h> so it can only act on a single one
[22:02] <nate_h> instead of all
[22:02] <CharlieSu> nate_h: not sure
[22:02] <CharlieSu> Canadian1296: Sorry man.. I've got to get back to coding..
[22:02] <Canadian1296> CharlieSu: Thats alright
[22:02] <Canadian1296> CharlieSu: Thanks for your help
[22:03] <BlueWolf> Please can someone help me. I am using Ubuntu 10.04 - How do I change the mouse courser theme? I have downloaded one.
[22:03] <EvilResistance> !repeat | BlueWolf
[22:04] <BlueWolf> EvilResistance: Then Help!
[22:04] <EvilResistance> BlueWolf, if you read, "if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you"
[22:04] <KingSphinx> BlueWolf: Extract the cursor folder to either /home/<username>/.icons, or /usr/share/icons if you want it available to all users.
[22:04] <freeman> salut
[22:05] <BlueWolf> EvilResistance: So why are you answering?
[22:05] <BlueWolf> KingSphinx: Simple as that?
[22:06] <CFHowlett> !fr|freeman
[22:07] <EvilResistance> BlueWolf: everyone in here is allowed to give you tidbits of advice, like I did with having Ubottu send you the !repeat factoid.  Just because I did that doesnt mean I know the solution to your problem.
[22:08] <BlueWolf> EvilResistance: I was being sarcastic. But thanks, understood :D
[22:08] <bis0n> Hello o/
[22:09] <bis0n> anyone here using an motherboard asus P5K series ?
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> BlueWolf  right click on the desktop, choose Theme and then modify (below, right)
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> BlueWolf  right click on the desktop, choose Properties, Theme and then modify (below, right)
[22:09] <nate_h> hey CharlieSu did you check out zg-policy.rc.d
[22:10] <KingSphinx> BlueWolf: Pretty much. You should then be able to select the cursor theme in the Themes dialog, or whatever it is 10.04 has (I'm a bit out-of-practice with GNOME 2.x since I use 11.10)
[22:11] <BlueWolf> KingSphinx: Extract the cursor folder to /home/<username>/.icons,  then what after that to get it working?
[22:12] <acidrain> urfr332gO: i just did a driver downgrade so it should work properly now. if it doesnt, i will resort to your suggestion. ill see how long i can hold a connection.
[22:13] <KingSphinx> BlueWolf: Go to the Themes dialog (should be in the same place as your desktop background settings), select Customize (or Change, I can't really remember right now), it should appear in the Cursors tab.
[22:13] <urfr332gO> acidrain, cool that card is notorious for having problems in debian and ubuntu, from a few web hits it seems.
[22:14] <acidrain> urfr332gO: yeah i did the downgrade to ***68
[22:16] <BlueWolf> KingSphinx: Ok found it, but why is it that when I move the courser over certain areas it goes back to the old one and then returns to the new one?
[22:17] <ady> can somebody help me to turn AGP on?
[22:17] <vacho> guys I want to use grep to write a regex to match all <wp:comment>..</wp:comment> anyoen can help?
[22:18] <BlueWolf> KingSphinx: Like when I move it on to the desktop it returns to the old one then when I move it onto a program it changes back to the new one
[22:18] <BlueWolf> ?
[22:19] <Chipzzz> vacho: xpath provides a better solution if it's available in the language you're using
[22:20] <ghostnik11> does anyone know why totem browser plugin 3.0.1 never works in ubuntu 11.10
[22:21] <const_antine> hello, legal question: what are the criminal penalties for software piracy? any jail time?
[22:21] <CFHowlett> !ot|const_antine
[22:21] <const_antine> thank you
[22:22] <stephenh> is anyone using bashrc to autoset their screen/xterm title?
[22:22] <ghostnik11> i am trying to play a wav file in the firefox browser but it can't play it just brings up black screen and then pauses
[22:23] <KingSphinx> BlueWolf: Are you getting my messages?
[22:23] <CFHowlett> ghostnik11   paste a pic
[22:24] <zykotic10> stephenh: i'd guess, bashrc wouldn't be the place to set xterm titles, as it's used for non-X related VTs as well.  For "screen" titles, use .screenrc
[22:24] <BlueWolf> KingSphinx: Here, just this one since I replyed? Or the PM?
[22:24] <bis0n> ghostnik11, just install vlc plugins for mozilla... :)
[22:25] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[22:25] <CFHowlett> PrototypeX29A   greetings
[22:25] <PrototypeX29A> shouldn't this bug be urgent, considering that it makes it impossible to install current ubuntu to acer notebooks? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/740893
[22:25] <kaiowas> Hi, i've installed Ubuntu on a Mac with a swedish keyboard. Just wondering if someone knows how to get the "at" sign on my keyboard?
[22:25] <KingSphinx> BlueWolf: The PMs, so that would be a yes.
[22:26] <ghostnik11> cfhowlett: okay, here it is: http://imagebin.org/201445, bis0n
[22:27] <urfr332gO> PrototypeX29A, you want top be specific with the hardware I have a acer and everything runs fine.
[22:27] <ghostnik11> bis0n: by installing vlc plugins for mozilla will it control stuff like streaming media from browser instead of totem
[22:27] <urfr332gO> to
[22:28] <PrototypeX29A> urfr332gO: it affects acer aspire 5732Z and at least some other models from that series
[22:28] <CFHowlett> ghostnik11   install shockwave flash addon to firefox
[22:28] <PrototypeX29A> urfr332gO: ich think all affected notebooks have the same graphics controller
[22:29] <ghostnik11> bis0n: when i checked the addons in firefox says i have the vlc multimedia plugin (compatible with totem)
[22:29] <urfr332gO> PrototypeX29A, whic is?
[22:29] <urfr332gO> whichc
[22:29] <PrototypeX29A> urfr332gO: http://pastebin.com/cm4AUFf0
[22:30] <ala> ..
[22:30] <ghostnik11> CFHowlett, i have shockwave flash addon in firefox already, i am able to watch flash videos with audio no problem but I don't have the ability to listen to streaming audio or play any type of audio file using firefox
[22:30] <ala> ?
[22:31] <ala> nie ogarniam... ;/
[22:31] <luffy_mc13> hihi
[22:31] <luffy_mc13> kann mir jmnd helfen? :)
[22:31] <PrototypeX29A> urfr332gO: do you know how to push that bug a little bit? usually people get back on my bug reports after 2 years, i don't feel like waiting that much for this one
[22:32] <PrototypeX29A> luffy_mc13: versuch #ubuntu-de
[22:32] <luffy_mc13> where is stored the ssh keys under ubuntu?
[22:32] <CFHowlett> ghostnik11   IDK.  Never encountered this before.
[22:32] <blackarchan> can someone help me ?? on my laptop from 160GB now i have only 123MB????? why?? can i do something??
[22:33] <CFHowlett> blackarchan   in terninal run df -h
[22:33] <CFHowlett> *terminal*
[22:33] <blackarchan> CFHowlett: so i should connect the hdd to my desktop and then run df -h ?
[22:34] <ghostnik11> CFHowlett, well is there a way to have vlc overide totem, because someone suggested using vlc plugin for firefox, but don't see any in firefox addon when i searched and the one i do have says its compatible with totem
[22:34] <CFHowlett> blackarchan   You're HDD is not connected?
[22:34] <urfr332gO> PrototypeX29A, seems from a quick read to be a specific kernel, have you tried 11.10?
[22:34] <Chipzzz> luffy_mc13: ./ssh/known_hosts
[22:34] <blackarchan> it is connected to laptop
[22:34] <blackarchan> i didn`t take out
[22:35] <CFHowlett> ghostnik11   now that I think about it, it may be that you need to look at your preferred apps.  Perhaps your sound is being directed directed to the wrong app.
[22:35] <PrototypeX29A> urfr332gO: i am using 11.10
[22:35] <ghostnik11> CFHowlett, will check that in system settings
[22:35] <urfr332gO> PrototypeX29A, same acer and it is working?
[22:36] <CFHowlett> blackarchan   run mount.  mount will list your devices "/dev/sda6" for instance.  Then run df -h on the device.
[22:36] <PrototypeX29A> urfr332gO: same acer, but it is only working because i applied the workaround given on launchpad
[22:36] <PrototypeX29A> urfr332gO: but it is not fun
[22:36] <PrototypeX29A> urfr332gO: basically it is broken right now
[22:37] <blackarchan> CFHowlett: oke i will do it
[22:37] <ghostnik11> CFHowlett, for default applications, in system info it has for music, banshee, should i change the option to something else?
[22:38] <CFHowlett> ghostnik11   what is your music player?
[22:38] <urfr332gO> PrototypeX29A, life is not fun welcome to the real world, I had a laptop with a old radeon some releases worked some didn't. Personally I jsu found a distro that did and just moved on.
[22:38] <blackarchan> df -h /dev/sdd1
[22:38] <blackarchan> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:38] <blackarchan> udev                  1.9G  4.0K  1.9G   1% /dev
[22:38] <ghostnik11> CFHowlett, banshee, it came with ubuntu 11.10
[22:38] <CFHowlett> ghostnik11   don't change it.
[22:39] <PrototypeX29A> urfr332gO: i don't feel like installing fedora as a workaround
[22:39] <hamed> i am trying to record my desktop but cannot connect to xserver how can i make connect to xserver ?
[22:39] <PrototypeX29A> urfr332gO: but considering that the bug is now known for month and still an issue, i'm afraid i will have too change something :/
[22:39] <ghostnik11> CFHowlett, i think its because i don't have vlc installed, vlc the program because on here: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html it says i  should have it installed and other things from repositories
[22:40] <urfr332gO> PrototypeX29A, seems like it, fedora is hardly different then ubuntu anyway in a bigger scehma, I run both.
[22:41] <CFHowlett> ghostnik11   also see your firefox preferences>applications>wav audio (mine is set to vlc multimedia plugin)
[22:41] <bill2012> i've got an ancient laptop (inspiron 3800) that came with hoary hedgehog installed.  it doesn't recognize the floppy drive.  any suggestions for fixing this?
[22:41] <CFHowlett> bill2012   hoary?!
[22:42] <CFHowlett> bill2012   replace the computer maybe?
[22:42] <bill2012> yeah.  i could upgrade but i've never used ubuntu before.
[22:42] <CFHowlett> bill2012   it's time methinks...
[22:42] <PrototypeX29A> urfr332gO: maybe it is just a kernel issue which has been fixed aeons ago upstream :)
[22:42] <bill2012> i just bought the thing, it was cheap, so i'm still feeling my way around.
[22:43] <bill2012> so what's the best way to upgrade, and to what?
[22:43] <CFHowlett> bill2012   no problem.  later ubuntus do a better job of hardware identifcation and configuration.
[22:43] <CFHowlett> bill2012   as it's an "ancient" laptop, install xuubntu or lubuntu
[22:43] <blackarchan> CFHowlett: whats netx?
[22:44] <bill2012> ancient, as in dell doesn't even support it anymore!
[22:44] <CFHowlett> bill2012   no as in those two ubuntu flavors are much better for older/lower specification machines.
[22:44] <CFHowlett> blackarchan   did you check your ffox preferences?
[22:44] <blackarchan> what??
[22:44] <Chipzzz> bill2012: i have an old dell 300mhz machine that runs ubuntu :-)
[22:45] <bill2012> ah.... i faild to connect your two replies.
[22:45] <CFHowlett> blackarchan   firefox>Preferences>Applications
[22:45] <aguitel> this iso file is hybrid image? ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[22:45] <ghostnik11> CFHowlett, for wav audio and other audio file in firefox preferences it says this: use windows media player plug-in
[22:45] <delta70> lista
[22:45] <bill2012> this one is 600 mhz but i had to go to the legacy part of the dell site to get manuals.
[22:45] <zykotic10> aguitel: no - hybrid started with 11.10 i believe
[22:46] <Chipzzz> lol... old Dells never die ;-)
[22:46] <CFHowlett> ghostnik11   didn't you say you installed the VLC multimedia plugin??
[22:46] <aguitel> zykotic10, ok
[22:46] <CFHowlett> Chipzzz   think i agree.  my 2001 dell desktop still runs xp/ubuntu
[22:46] <bill2012> anyhow, i'm off to upgrade-land.  thanks for the info.
[22:46] <CFHowlett> bill2012   not an upgrade- clean install
[22:46] <CFHowlett> very different
[22:46] <urfr332gO> bill2012, how much ram?
[22:47] <Chipzzz> :-)
[22:47] <lubek> hi everyone
[22:47] <lubek> :)
[22:47] <CFHowlett> Lubgreetings
[22:47] <ghostnik11> CFHowlett, yeah when i checked firefox addon it says vlc multimedia plugin but when i go to preferences i only see to options for the audio codecs, 1 = use banshee as default and 2 = use windows media player plug-in, 3 = use other
[22:48] <ghostnik11> CFHowlett, when i click on use other it doesn't give me any option to choose another program
[22:48] <CFHowlett> ghostnik11   remove/reinstall the vlc add-on.  Also install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:48] <bill2012> hm. a clean install implies having boot media.  all i have is a floppy drive--which i can't access!
[22:48] <CFHowlett> bill2012   whoops right.  USB boot supported?
[22:49] <bill2012> 128 meg ram
[22:49] <prower> CharlieSu: Hmm...well after a while of messing around I haven't gotten the error to occur again...maybe when i fixed the filesystem on the thumb drive and the usb hard drive it resolved it, or maybe it was fixed in 3.0.0-16
[22:50] <zykotic10> CFHowlett: i doubt a machine that old could possibly support USB booting (it probably wasn't invented yet)
[22:50] <bill2012> i don't recall it from the bios screens.
[22:50] <mrdeb> what is different from typing dir or ls
[22:50] <Chipzzz> bill2012: does it have a dock in which the floppy can be replaced by a cd drive?
[22:50] <PrototypeX29A> i remember that there is a possibility to install the latest linux-kernel to ubuntu with ubuntu-packaging, instead of the somewhat outdated ordinary ubuntu-kernel. Anyone remember how?
[22:50] <CFHowlett> zykotic10   alternatives?  How would he pull of installation?
[22:51] <zykotic10> mrdeb: dir isn't the right command ;)
[22:51] <CFHowlett> bill2012   ...or an external driver?
[22:51] <bill2012> it's got what i think is an external floppy connector but i don't have extra hardware
[22:51] <mrdeb> it works but with no color
[22:51] <mrdeb> ls works in color
[22:51] <zykotic10> CFHowlett: sorry, no suggestions...
[22:52] <bill2012> is there a way to manually persuade it there's a floppy? (i'm an old unix geek, which mostly translates to linux)
[22:53] <CFHowlett> bill2012   ancient machine, no easy way to upgrade?  Meh.  Save your time, your hairline - go on craigslist/ebay get a replacement ...
[22:53] <bill2012> i have hair.  i don't have money1
[22:53] <bill2012> !
[22:53] <CFHowlett> bill2012   :)
[22:53] <Chipzzz> bill2012: is the floppy drive removable?
[22:54] <CFHowlett> bill2012   as you probably know, hoary (!) is WAY past end-of-life support.
[22:54] <bill2012> probably, with a screwdriver.
[22:54] <bill2012> i know--i went to website first.
[22:54] <Chipzzz> bill2012: will it do a network boot?
[22:55] <ubi> hi
[22:55] <CFHowlett> ubi   greetings
[22:55] <ubi> can i give permalink with my problem
[22:56] <CFHowlett> ubi   yes with a description of problem ...
[22:56] <ubi> here goes http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?pid=29095#p29095
[22:56] <Roasted> I installed Lubuntu-Desktop on my Ubuntu laptop, and now Lubuntu's splash screen is what I see when I boot up. What's the package name for it? I'd like to remove it.
[22:56] <Guest31119> Hello
[22:56] <bill2012> no netboot as far as i know.
[22:57] <CFHowlett> ubi   can you still boot xp?
[22:57] <ubi> yes
[22:57] <ubi> im on xp now
[22:57] <bill2012> ok, the floppy is intended to be removed.  i don't see how but it's got a grip for removing it.
[22:58] <Chipzzz> bill2012: you usually slide something underneath it to unlock it
[22:58] <CFHowlett> ubi   is ubuntu still installed?
[22:58] <CFHowlett> *booting*
[22:58] <ubi> yes it is , i can access it
[22:58] <ubi> but its unstable
[22:58] <ghostnik11> CFHowlett, okay went to synaptic and told synaptic to reinstall vlc-mozilla plugin now restarting firefox to see if it will work, or if i can choose to make vlc use wav instead of a windows media player plugin
[22:58] <bill2012> i'll have to upend the machine for a few minutes and play.  brb.
[22:58] <Chipzzz> bill2012: if that is the case, you can probably get a cd drive to replace the floppy drive... they're cheap on ebay
[22:58] <gartral> Roasted: that would be plymouth-theme-lubuntu-logo
[22:58] <CFHowlett> ubi   if ubuntu is there, just reinstall over that partition.
[22:59] <ubi> but how
[22:59] <CFHowlett> ghostnik11   and the restricted-extras?
[22:59] <Roasted> gartral, thanks, I JUST found that oo, but when I try to remove it, it wants to remote lubuntu-desktop as well. I don't want to nuke everything, I just want ubuntu as the splash screen...
[22:59] <BeTTaMax> Hello everyone, I'd like to know which is the right channel for java discussions?
[22:59] <CFHowlett> ubi   boot your usb stick, install ubuntu, format the / partition
[22:59] <gartral> Roasted: ahh.. yea
[23:00] <itaylor57> BeTTaMax, ##java
[23:00] <ubi> i tried that and only thing offers me is to format whole partition, and my win XP is on that partition
[23:00] <Roasted> gartral, looks like plymouth manager is the answer... tool to organize boot screens.
[23:00] <urfr332gO> BeTTaMax, there is ##java probably have to be registered with freenode though.
[23:00] <bill2012> well, anyway, thanks for the info, and i'll see what i can make work.
[23:00] <ghostnik11> CFHowlett, restricted was already installed when i tryed to run it in terminal
[23:00] <bis0n> anyone with an asus p5k here?
[23:01] <BeTTaMax> Thanks, I think so
[23:01] <ghostnik11> CFHowlett, here's the thing it plays now but still when i go to preferences for wav audio files it still says windows media player plug-in
[23:01] <CFHowlett> ghostnik11   but it plays??
[23:02] <CFHowlett> ubi   thinking ....
[23:02] <ubi> :D
[23:02] <urfr332gO> ubi, how many primarmy partitions are on the HD?
[23:02] <urfr332gO> primary*
[23:02] <ubi> just one, C NTFS
[23:03] <ghostnik11> CFHowlett, is there a way i can make sure it says vlc media player like it does for amr audio files in preferences, yeah it plays.  think i should just leave it alone? now that it works even though it still says windows media player plug-in by wav file in firefox
[23:03] <urfr332gO> ubi, not shrunk and showing a unallocated right?
[23:03] <CFHowlett> ghostnik11   choose your battles.  I'd say you're good to go.
[23:03] <ubi> no, full size, but gparted is showing me unallocated
[23:03] <urfr332gO> ubi, the whole HD?
[23:04] <ubi> yes whole
[23:04] <ghostnik11> CFHowlett, lol, yeah but it doesn't allow me now to pause it just comes up and works, guess i will leave it before i end up breaking everything in firefox, thanks for the help
[23:05] <urfr332gO> ubi, sounds like broken partition table, or a dynamic or something is amiss. Is the C and standard NTFS?
[23:05] <urfr332gO> a*
[23:05] <ubi> yes C is standard NTFS
[23:05] <urfr332gO> ubi, when was the last time you ran a chkdsk /r or any chkdsk?
[23:06] <ubi> today after my ubuntu installed, next time i booted XP, chdsk automatically started
[23:06] <CFHowlett> ubi normal and expected - xp detected the hdd change.
[23:07] <urfr332gO> ubi, is XP showing in grub, or is this a wubi install?
[23:07] <CFHowlett> urfr332gO   time for him to do chdsk /f to fix??
[23:07] <ubi> grub shows when i turn computer on
[23:07]  * L3top agrees with CFHowlett
[23:08] <UnknownFearNG> hello all.
[23:08] <urfr332gO> ubi, maybe the chkdsk /f is an answer not sure really something is amiss it seems.
[23:08] <UnknownFearNG> I am trying to connect my Android phone via ssh in terminal to my Ubuntu computer. I have openssh installed on Ubuntu
[23:08] <ubi> what is chdsk /f how can i do that
[23:08] <urfr332gO> ubi, you have the XP install disc?
[23:09] <ubi> no, nope
[23:10] <urfr332gO> ubi, I would talk with the ##windows channel it seems your problems are with XP really, more help anyway. :)
[23:10] <L3top> should be able to run chkdsk /f in windows
[23:10] <ubi> ok, i'll check there thanx for help :)
[23:10] <urfr332gO> ubi, no problem. :)
[23:11] <danyboy> hi
[23:11] <danyboy> ubuntu is the same as backtrack?
[23:12] <Andria> backtrack is a special ubuntu version
[23:12] <Andria> who have some software as aircrack airodump etc...
[23:12] <urfr332gO> danyboy, not supported here though.:)
[23:13] <danyboy> I want to move from backtrack to linux
[23:13] <danyboy> is that supported?
[23:13] <danyboy> :]
[23:13] <danyboy> to ubuntu*
[23:13] <urfr332gO> danyboy, anythinjk canonical is.
[23:13] <danyboy> noob m
[23:13] <urfr332gO> anything*
[23:13] <Andria> you must download it, and install, or make an usb-disk and launch
[23:13] <Andria> it's easy
[23:13] <danyboy> lubuntu == ubuntu?
[23:13] <urfr332gO> yes
[23:13] <danyboy> does it have all the drivers?
[23:13] <Andria> yes
[23:14] <Andria> of course
[23:14] <urfr332gO> danyboy, for?
[23:14] <Andria> there is just other softwar
[23:14] <danyboy> ubuntu has all the drivers for my pc
[23:14] <danyboy> wondering if lubuntu has the same
[23:14] <Andria> yes
[23:14] <urfr332gO> danyboy, same underlying system different desktop.
[23:14] <Andria> fu
[23:14] <intok> Other then Mednafen and SDLMame are there any actively developed NeoGeo emulators with a frontend?
[23:16] <stephenh> zykotic10: .bashrc is the place
[23:16] <stephenh> (sorry, delayed reponse)
[23:16] <zykotic10> stephenh: glad you figured it out :)
[23:17] <EvilResistance> danyboy, Lubuntu is the same as Ubuntu, except that it uses a different desktop environment than Ubuntu.
[23:17] <EvilResistance> danyboy, they will have the exact same drivers regardless of desktop environment
[23:17] <danyboy> no unity?
[23:18] <EvilResistance> danyboy, Unity is a shell that uses GNOME3 too.  Lubuntu doesnt use GNOME3, therefore does not use unity
[23:18] <danyboy> lubuntu has no unity, right?
[23:18] <christinepea777> i wonder if anti-virus companies write their own virsuses and send them out into the internet
[23:18] <danyboy> does it have ubuntu market?
[23:18] <EvilResistance> !offtopic | christinepea777
[23:18] <danyboy> christinepea777 of course.
[23:18] <urfr332gO> danyboy, you can have unity and lubuntu and xubuntu and kubuntu at the same time if you want, a bit cluttered though, some will overlap in apps.
[23:18] <EvilResistance> danyboy, i'm not sure, i think you can install it though...
[23:18] <christinepea777> sorry, i was in the wrong window
[23:19] <PrototypeX29A> christinepea777: i wish there was need for that
[23:20] <danyboy> is Lubuntu faster than Ubuntu?
[23:20] <zykotic10> danyboy: significantly
[23:21] <Boreeas> Is there a command to suspend the computer?
[23:21] <Pikkachu> I've heard the person responsible for packaging in debian disappeared and ubuntu was like orthan as for delivering 2.6.3=>2.7.0 of purple plugin pack, for example. How about it?
[23:21] <Pikkachu> *orphan
[23:23] <Guest53778> My screen resolution changes every time i log out. Nvidia chip. I added the line to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it sticks. But it changes in the Nvidia X Server Settings manager
[23:23] <urfr332gO> Pikkachu, this is support not conspiracy. :)
[23:23] <djskidd> hello, how do I network to a printer on a Windows computer?
[23:23] <hiexpo> hola guys :)
[23:24] <Pikkachu> urfr332gO: ok, how about an actually useful answer?
[23:24] <hiexpo> go get the model number off it
[23:24] <urfr332gO> Pikkachu, how about a actual ontopic question.
[23:25] <EvilResistance> is the software store listed as 'software-center' in the packages?
[23:26] <Guest53778> How do i solve the problem of my resolution changing @reboot
[23:27] <djskidd> help, how do I connect to the printer downstairs?
[23:29] <hiexpo> djskidd, I told rundown there and get the model number off it  that will help
[23:30] <Guest53778> djskidd, have you tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[23:30] <djskidd> alright, 1600W
[23:31] <hiexpo> brilliant
[23:33] <hiexpo> well now that you know the power consumption > might wanna check the voltage next > but the model # will help you much more
[23:33] <djskidd> no, the model # is 1600W
[23:33] <Guest53778> djskidd, HP?
[23:34] <hiexpo> djskidd, what brand is that
[23:34] <djskidd> let me check
[23:34] <Chipzzz> Guest53778: have you added 'nomodeset' to your boot command line?
[23:34] <stephenh> zykotic10: i haven't figured it out :/
[23:34] <djskidd> Konika Minolta magicolor 1600W
[23:35] <stephenh> i've known where i must put what, but i can't seem to get it to do exactly what i want
[23:35] <djskidd> ^might be spelled off
[23:35] <stephenh> minorly annoying
[23:35] <Guest53778> Chipzzz,  noi havent added anything
[23:35] <Blacki> Good evening
[23:35] <Blacki> can maybe someone help me a little bit ?
[23:35] <Chipzzz> Guest53778: try that... it may be the KMS is resetting the resolution
[23:36] <Canadian1296> Blacki: What troubles are you having?
[23:36] <Blacki> a little one I guess
[23:36] <hiexpo> djskidd, have you set it up down there to share and be a network printer ?
[23:36] <Guest53778> Chipzzz,  it only changes in the nvidia settings manager
[23:36] <djskidd> hiexpo:yup
[23:36] <Blacki> I cant boot ubuntu. Grub says there is no such device
[23:37] <Chipzzz> Guest53778: does the actual resolution change?
[23:37] <hiexpo> djskidd, than go to places and network
[23:37] <djskidd> browse network?
[23:38] <Guest53778> Chipzzz,  yes but not in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:38] <hiexpo> djskidd, sure
[23:38] <zykotic10> Guest53778: use nvidia-settings, make your changes, then select the safe to xorg.conf option
[23:38] <Blacki> Canadian1296 : and I get an error code
[23:38] <djskidd> okay, I see "Windows Network"
[23:39] <Guest53778> zykotic10,  i did that a few times
[23:39] <Somelauw> I'm having trouble with notify-osd in ubuntu 11.3. When I run either witray or stalonetray, notify-osd seems to get stuck in some infinite loop. When I run trayer I don't have this problem.
[23:39] <Canadian1296> Blacki: What error do you get?
[23:40] <djskidd> kay, I am looking at the computer's shares
[23:40] <Chipzzz> Guest53778: evidently the setting in nvidia's settings manager takes precedence... you may have to remove it, use the open source driver, and add 'nomodeset' to your boot line to fix it
[23:40] <Canadian1296> Im trying to set up a VPN server (l2tp through IPSec, using openswan and xl2tpd), and ran into a problem. Should I ask here, or is there a channel better suited to my question?
[23:40] <hiexpo> djskidd, you will probally have to identify it
[23:40] <Blacki> Grub : No such device: bff339c-73cd-49fe-96b7-2b02b8920c48c
[23:41] <EvilResistance> Blacki it seems your system no longer detects some hard drive that was on the system, i think...
[23:41] <djskidd> do I go to print$ ?
[23:41] <Canadian1296> Blacki: Your drive seems to have vanished. Is it still in the machine?
[23:41] <Blacki> sure
[23:41] <Blacki> and I can see it with the live cd
[23:42] <mister2> i'm trying to install java from apt-get, not seeing sun-jre-6 or whatever it'ssupposed to be. I had openjdk installed but it started crashing my firefox when i was trying to load an applet after an update. thoughts/suggestions?
[23:42] <zykotic10> Blacki: from the livecd try "sudo blkid" and confirm that UUID is correct
[23:42] <hiexpo> djskidd, yup
[23:42] <zykotic10> mister2: if you want sun-java get it direct from Oracle
[23:42] <Blacki> # /dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs"  /dev/mapper/isw_bgeicabafa_Volume0p6: UUID="3bcf8905-81fa-491e-83ea-3cd4e4d8b947" TYPE="ext4"  /dev/mapper/isw_bgeicabafa_Volume0p7: UUID="b156d6de-2c45-4a63-8ebb-2b836d4a5fc9" TYPE="ext4"  /dev/sdc1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" LABEL="USB 2GB" UUID="62AE-D90A" TYPE="vfat"
[23:43] <hiexpo> than you will have to identify i think been awhile for me
[23:43] <Blacki> sdc1 = live "cd"
[23:43] <hiexpo> Blacki, not usually ]
[23:43] <djskidd> hmm, nothing like the printer there
[23:44] <hiexpo> djskidd, how is the printer hooked to you wireless ?
[23:44] <L3top> sdc1 looks like a 2gb thumb
[23:45] <Blacki> 2 GB USB Stick. The ubuntu hp says thats possible.
[23:45] <hiexpo> Blacki, sdc is usually a usb device
[23:46] <digitalslave> anyone have any experience getting esata to work? ahci is already enable and the drive starts to blink when the system boots but i cant see it at all
[23:46] <L3top> I see... you are booted to a thumb which was formated as a CD/DVD with unetbootin or startup disk creator or something
[23:46] <ldiamond> hiexpo,  since when?
[23:46] <Somelauw> I am not sure why, but if I run either wmitray or stalonetray, X will use 100% of my cpu. If I run trayer or the bar that comes with gnome, I don't have that problem.
[23:46] <Blacki> I did this with the startup disk creator jep
[23:46] <djskidd> hiexpo, through the house network
[23:47] <zykotic10> ldiamond: for some statements, it's better to just close your eyes ;)
[23:47] <hiexpo> well sda is usually the hard drive ldiamond
[23:47] <Blacki> I guess that wasnt good tigh ?
[23:47] <ldiamond> zykotic10, (-.-)
[23:47] <Blacki> right*?
[23:47] <L3top> its fine.
[23:47] <hiexpo> djskidd, so it is wired ?
[23:48] <djskidd> yep
[23:48] <zykotic10> ldiamond: nice
[23:48] <ldiamond> hiexpo, I won't comment.
[23:48] <zykotic10> digitalslave: do you see the drive from "sudo fdisk -l" or is it mentioned in dmesg?
[23:48] <ldiamond> hiexpo, maybe someone else can explain to you. I've run out of patience today so I should just not talk.
[23:49] <L3top> Blacki: what is the output of: mount | grep sda
[23:49] <Blacki> is there a way to rescue it ?
[23:50] <hiexpo> or just dmesg to be sure
[23:50] <zykotic10> hiexpo: you origional comment would have been ok had you said "sdc is often a usb device".  sdc simply means the 3rd scsi device, it "could" be many things.
[23:50] <Blacki> there is no output # ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount | grep sda ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[23:51] <hiexpo> zykotic10, true sorry bad comment
[23:51] <linxeh> sdc here is typically a cdrom
[23:51] <linxeh> at the office it is invariably hard drives
[23:51] <L3top> Blacki: what is the output of: mount | grep sd
[23:51] <digitalslave> zykotic10, not listed in fdisk and i dont see it in dmesg unless ive missed it
[23:51] <hiexpo> see here typ./ sr0 is cdrom
[23:51] <Blacki> #/dev/sdc1 on /cdrom type vfat (ro,noatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)
[23:52] <L3top> gimme a minute to confirm I am clear.
[23:52] <djskidd> http://kmbs.konicaminolta.us/wps/portal/web/home/products/printers/magicolor/magicolor-1600w/magicolor%201600w/!ut/p/b1/hzdbbojaeiafpq9qd_baapelsxcqlcoiwo2xtjye0f5gdfv0xayxtwnpxewyytfz__-gglwyuqstlxcolqg-rd93r-t2dz6tj7e55qujtmh1saaocwtcv4cqowhegd0d1r3gzd6easnirdakdr3fn3gp9_tsq6hqmm4owqbq_hue_igb_5miul17akbxttocebaxwyzbjra4nhgh9br1oi0adwnxsn8cv-t8bayyvd1gf5nispteplxzpengeatretiq2hdvotmyfg8yugadk_ji8hqejjpdko1fe1xgvnoxhkbrjtcf
[23:52] <djskidd> jjssgw6vtp_neekjeffnsl__crep54q5nru49j2hhurqcm5eufmfp91jkftbtvvmphwar6hiww!!/dl4/d5/l2dbisevz0fbis9nqseh/   that is the printer I am trying to use
[23:52] <zykotic10> digitalslave: that's probably not a good sign.  best of luck.
[23:52] <djskidd> oh dear god
[23:52] <hiexpo> Blacki, but is that a usb device ?
[23:52] <EvilResistance> djskidd, url shorteners ;P
[23:52] <L3top> That is the thumb drive he is booted to hiexpo
[23:52] <L3top> with the livecd on it
[23:52] <djskidd> yeah, I didn't know the link was that long
[23:53] <Blacki> # /dev/sdc1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" LABEL="USB 2GB". I think it is
[23:53] <dansul> hi
[23:53] <hiexpo> L3top, thats what I said
[23:53] <L3top> because it was the case does not mean you are right
[23:53] <L3top> while most times you would be
[23:53] <L3top> it is simply the assignment of the third scsi type device
[23:54] <dansul> I installed ubuntu 11.10 and now every time I open a new instance of a program that is pinned in the launcher another icon for that programs shows up in the launcher below the current one. Is this a feature or something which I can disable ?
[23:54] <Canadian1296> I've had usb's as sdb or sdc. It depends what order you attach things.
[23:54] <L3top> for instance, if I have 4 sata hard drives in my machine, sdc will be the third.
[23:54] <L3top> and my thumb drive would be sde
[23:55] <L3top> there are a number of cases in which even with one drive in a machine you end up on sdc
[23:55] <zykotic10> L3top: as IDE drives now use scsi-emulation, just having 3 HD of any format (IDE,SATA,SCSI) would be given sdc
[23:56]  * L3top was just giving a for example
[23:56] <L3top> sata was safe
[23:56] <L3top> lol
[23:56] <Blacki> Is it possible that I get this error because my hard driver is mirrowed ?
[23:56] <L3top> so this is a RAID?
[23:56] <Blacki> yes
[23:57] <dansul> anyone?
[23:57] <Canadian1296> Blacki: That could be it
[23:57] <zykotic10> lol, details.
[23:57] <L3top> yes...
[23:57] <L3top> that is probably significant
[23:57] <zykotic10> L3top: s/probably//
[23:57] <L3top> one moment.
[23:57] <L3top> lol
[23:58] <nirmal> #djnago