[00:02] <knome> nighty
[00:09] <e-head> hey guys
[00:09] <e-head> I'm trying to add "tiling" fuctionality to xfwm, sort of like aero-snap.
[00:14] <e-head> so, anyone around?
[00:15] <e-head> I have found a blog entry and patch (I think) on a german site on how to patch xfwm4.
[00:15] <e-head> It looks like it's not the same minor version that xubuntu uses though.
[00:16] <e-head> Would it be reckless to just compile and install a patched version?
[02:33] <gglitch> Question: if I, as a user of Xubuntu 11.10, install kubuntu-desktop, to have the option of logging into either one, what exactly will happen? I know a bunch of kde stuff will be downloaded and installed, but will KDE stuff run in the background even when I'm logged into xfce?
[02:34] <gglitch> And will it affect the appearance of my xfce environment?
[03:36] <douglas> I installed Xubuntu 11.10 on a machine, and connected it to a windows 7 machine via LAN, and network bridged the LAN and WiFi on the win7, and Xubuntu can't connect to the internet because it is auto configuring its IP address to the same one as the win7 machine...
[03:38] <douglas> Does Xubuntu use the same networking daemon as Ubuntu?
[03:39] <brianp1992> can anyone explain what the KDE is?
[03:42] <Unit193> !kde
[03:42] <Unit193> douglas: You can set the IP in the networking applet.
[03:44] <douglas> yeah, I was wondering why it failed setting it up automatically... I guess its most likely windows fault, right? :P
[03:44] <douglas> thanks anyways Unit193
[08:23] <Yancho> guys are there some known problems betweeen xubuntu's ubuntuone installer and the ubuntuone packages found in apt ?
[08:34] <well_laid_lawn> !bugs
[08:35] <well_laid_lawn> !launchpad
[08:51] <chebureque> hi, everybody!
[08:52] <chebureque> can anyone tell me how to change workspaces layout? by default they all set in a line, but i need 2x2 layout
[09:11] <baizon> omg
[09:11] <baizon> people cant even wait longer then 5 min
[09:53] <Kingsy> guys, I have just plugged in a usb phone, but I cant find it to unmute it in the sound settings.. what is the best way of doing this?
[09:54] <Kingsy> it appears in dmesg as [ 1907.519282] generic-usb 0003:04B4:0306.0005: hiddev0,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 04b4:0306] on usb-0000:00:1a.0-1.1/input3
[09:58] <Unit193> Not seen a USB phone, so all I personally can do is tell you to see if it turns up in pavucontrol, and that the hardware is compatible.
[10:03] <Kingsy> pavucontrol ?
[10:03] <Kingsy> I am in the sound mixer now if thats what you mean ?
[10:03] <well_laid_lawn> !info pavucontrol
[10:06] <Kingsy> well_laid_lawn: that program is AWESOME
[10:07] <Kingsy> everything works perfect now
[10:07] <well_laid_lawn> I never use it - I just know the bot link ;)
[10:07] <Kingsy> man I need to remember pavucontrol.. MUST install that on every xubuntu installation
[10:07] <Unit193> Glad it helped!
[10:08] <well_laid_lawn> the phones accessable now?
[10:18] <Kingsy> well_laid_lawn: your damn right, I made the phone call.. SMASH
[10:18] <well_laid_lawn> woot
[10:22] <Cyrus_CN> i'm glad  to be here,please take care.
[11:46] <Starn> hey the installer is different than what i remember.. how do i select the partition i want to install on.. (don't wanna accidently install over the other OS's) am i gonna have to do a manual setup? if so whats the suggested Swap size for 4gb of ram?
[11:47] <Starn> also this is the first time i am having a defualt install of Xubuntu.. normally i used ubuntu.. but now it has unity. (dislike that) and this is closest i can get to old ubuntu without using old ubuntu
[12:03] <fireballin> Sup all, i am trying to duel boot linux with Win 7 but before the gui starts it locks  up and i can see where it says "unable to Mount Image"
[12:15] <profus2> hi everybody
[12:16] <profus2> could somebody help me with finding the easiest way of connecting to a xubuntu client 11.10 via vnc (local lan)
[12:16] <profus2> ?
[12:17] <profus2> i have a vnc client installed on my machine and would like to connect to the linux client
[12:18] <Starn> um.. remote desktop?
[12:19] <profus2> what program?
[12:19] <Starn> profus2: are you trying to remotely control a machine? for VNC to work you need a server machine and a client.
[12:19] <Starn> i believe xubuntu comes with one? i could be wrong.
[12:20] <profus2> @Starn: did not find anything
[12:20] <Starn> i often use Teamviewer for remote control and VPN.
[12:20] <Starn> profus2: look into teamviewer see if it's what you want..
[12:20] <profus2> i would not use teamviewer for "internally" connect
[12:21] <Starn> profus2: i personally use it to remotely control my desktop via my phone over local network.
[12:21] <profus2> @Starn: cool
[12:21] <profus2> we have some windows machines here and they can speak via vnc
[12:21] <profus2> so very strange that this should not be possible with linux
[12:21] <Starn> profus2: have you done a google search?
[12:22] <Starn> profus2: it is very possible in linux.
[12:22] <profus2> i found some info relating to older ubuntu versions and wanted to asked the experts what is valid with the new 11.10
[12:23] <Starn> they have remote desktop viewer built into xubuntu in the internet section i don't use it but i believe it also can go through lan via direct ip.
[12:23] <profus2> thanks anyway, I will try to find some info on the net
[12:23] <Starn> profus2: i am no expert if i was i would probably have told you a great answer.
[12:23] <tomreyn> hi, i'd like to use a gnome-applet on xubuntu. apparently you do this via the xfapplet plugin, but this is not available on my xubuntu 11.10. do i need to install some package?
[12:24] <profus2> @Starn: thanks again and cu some time ..
[12:24] <Starn> profus2: i am right you can use the remote desktop viewer in xubuntu to access VNC locally.. you'd type something like 192.168.1.101
[12:25] <Starn> tomreyn: i don't know the answer but i am sure someone will eventually get to you
[12:25] <Yancho> guys is it possible to help me debug ubunt one client please ?
[12:29] <Starn> does empathy messenger come with xubuntu?? or is this something i will have to manually get? i prefer it over pidgin.
[12:30] <Starn> never mind i just answered my own question right after typing that.
[12:30] <Starn> anyways be right back.. rebooting install is done.
[14:15] <starn> how do i get Empathy onto xubuntu
[14:20] <starn> second thought forget that.. where is cron file stored?
[14:21] <Pici> Which cron file?
[14:21] <starn> where i put the script in for random wall papers every 5 minutes.
[14:22] <Pici> Just run crontab -e as your user.
[14:22] <starn> i want to copy the script from my old install.. this is a fresh one.
[14:22] <Pici> Its in /var/spool/cron/ then
[14:23] <starn> i temporarly have the hard drive with the other xubuntu hooked up so i can get some of my old settings that i don't remember how to setup... haha
[14:29] <starn> Pici: thanks. now i'm waiting 5 minutes to see if it worked..
[14:30] <starn> Pici: omg it worked thank you so much for telling me there is no way i would've remembered how i wrote that script down!
[14:35] <Pici> np :)
[14:37] <starn> ugh i dislike pidgin used to love it.. so i like totally just removed it and installed empathy haha
[14:40] <TheSheep> gajim ftw :)
[15:13] <ivan__> hey guys! Could anybody help, I lost sound after mute and unmute
[15:16] <TheSheep> ivan__: start the mixer, change the device to pulseaudio and unmute that too
[15:33] <ivan__> hey TheSheep
[15:33] <ivan__> thnx
[15:33] <ivan__> can't find what you said but
[15:33] <ivan__> i've tried restarting alsa
[15:33] <ivan__> reinstalling pulseaudio
[15:33] <ivan__> rebooting
[15:33] <ivan__> what not
[15:33] <ivan__> and still cant get sound ???
[15:39] <TheSheep> ivan__: press altf+f2, type xfce4-mixer, press enter
[15:41] <ivan__> well I don't have any pulse* there no more
[15:42] <ivan__> just two alsas
[15:44] <ivan__> before i started doing stuff
[15:44] <ivan__> i had a lot more options there
[15:45] <ivan__> but the last thing i did is i reinstalled pulseaudio, so i dont really see a reason for all that stuff missing
[15:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> Question: what terminal emulator does xubuntu use?
[15:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> xfce to be precise
[15:49] <ivan__> how do i find out WhereIsMySpoon ?
[15:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> if i knew that i wouldnt be asking, now would i?
[15:50] <ivan__> ;) i thought you were not a xubuntu user and came here to find out
[15:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> nope, just installed xubuntu
[15:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> i like it so far
[15:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> but dont like the terminal emulator
[15:51] <starn> i just fresh installed xubuntu and i know my hardware supports playing one audio stream through headphones and another to speakers.. and i am wondering how i do this?
[15:51] <ivan__> same here, first time linux experience, seems quite decent!
[15:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> this isnt my first linux experience ^^
[15:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> i just dont like ubuntu anymore
[15:52] <ivan__> yeah, that unity stuff is crap.
[15:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> it really is
[15:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> and gnome 3 sucks too
[15:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> so, anyone know what terminal emulator xfce uses, please?
[15:52] <starn> WhereIsMySpoon: i agree... i switched to xubuntu the second they started using unity.
[15:53] <ivan__> WhereIsMySpoon, I'd try asking in #ubuntu there are lot of people there
[15:53] <starn> WhereIsMySpoon: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/terminal
[15:53] <ivan__> oh..
[15:53] <ivan__> ;]
[15:53] <starn> all i had to do was click "help" on this and "about" "visit terminal website"
[15:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> that aint what mine looks like
[15:54] <starn> i kinda like it. i costumized mine.
[15:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> and i didnt want to know about a terminal
[15:54] <starn> ya know mine doesn't look like that either.... mine has smoother edges.. and prettery text.
[15:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> i wanted to know how to find out what *I* have
[15:55] <starn> did you defualt;y install xubuntu?
[15:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> i installed it from ubuntu
[15:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[15:55] <starn> than you're more likely still using ubuntu's
[15:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> ubuntus terminal emulator is not the same as this one im using here
[15:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> the one that xfce is popping up for me auto forks processes
[15:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> which is hella annoying
[15:56] <starn> i have no issues with my ubuntu to xubuntu or my fresh install with xubuntu. nothing like that.
[15:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> my normal ubuntu install with unity didnt do this
[15:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> so i dont know why switching to xfce should
[15:57] <starn> i would have to reboot into the defualt install of ubuntu than xubuntu like what you did to see.. but i use the lower bar that can be hidden to bring up my terminal
[15:57] <starn> WhereIsMySpoon: it shouldn't
[15:57] <starn> do you see a help button WhereIsMySpoon ?
[15:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> no
[15:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> there is ^ - [] X on the top right
[15:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> the ^ is actually an up arrow
[15:58] <ablomen> WhereIsMySpoon, normally it would be xfce4-terminal
[15:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> then there is a thing to click on on the top left
[15:59] <ablomen> to check which you are using, check ps ax or something
[15:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> which gives a menu with maximize, minimize, minimize all other windows, move, resize
[16:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> i see gnome-terminal
[16:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> which is what im using on my otehr install of ubuntu
[16:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> which doesnt do this weird forking
[16:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> sooooo
[16:02] <xsl> guys where can i find all options of kioskrc
[16:06] <starn> WhereIsMySpoon: try running the terminal that came with xubuntu.. see if that helps.
[16:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> i am
[16:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> starn - im just pressing on the icon top left which opens up the menu
[16:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> then clicking terminal emulator
[16:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> literally, its called that, "terminal emulator"
[16:08] <starn> WhereIsMySpoon: and it still says it's the same one as what you use in your ubuntu install? for when i did like you did i have two terminal's.
[16:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont know how to get what it is, apart from looking in my processes and seeing a gnome-terminal
[16:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> which i guess is what is running
[16:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> but i cant be sure
[16:10] <starn> on mine i see "terminal"
[16:11] <starn> infact WhereIsMySpoon the only gnome i see is polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1.. nothing else that is gnome is running.
[16:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> i have gnome-keyring-daemon, gdm-simple-slave --displayid /org/gnome/DisplayManager/Display1, gnome-volume-control, your polkit thing, gnome-terminal and gnome-pty-helper
[16:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> im not sure im actually running xfce properly
[16:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> maybe i need to reboot or smth
[16:13] <starn> hey anyone in here know how to split the audio to play through speakers as well as headphones but only certain audio sources? eg Teamspeak goes to headphones rest of the audio through speakers?
[16:13] <starn> WhereIsMySpoon: you may need to..
[16:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> i think thats quite difficult to do starn
[16:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> i know you cant do it on windows
[16:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> 7 that is
[16:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> or vista
[16:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> iunno, im sure google has some answers
[16:14] <starn> WhereIsMySpoon: you mean can or can't?? for i can do it in xp vista and 7 my hardware supports it.
[16:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> you physically cannot do it in 7
[16:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> all sound is redirected through one output
[16:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> "so you cant pirate music"
[16:14] <starn> WhereIsMySpoon: with my hardware i can enable it.
[16:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> your hardware might very well allow it
[16:15] <starn> i orinally learned how in win 7
[16:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> windows 7 doesnt
[16:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> unless theres some sort of hack
[16:16] <starn> WhereIsMySpoon: there is no hack.. windows 7 supports it.. i just use the audio drivers provided by the sound card maker not windows.
[16:16] <starn> and therefor i feel that my sound card supports the ability than i assume xubuntu can too.
[16:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> hmm
[16:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok then
[16:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> google it ^^
[16:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> im sure it isnt any different on ubuntu than xubuntu
[16:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> theyre only window managers rather than different systems
[16:17] <starn> google is sucking for me.. only providing info on how to stop audio from playing through both.
[16:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> starn, PulseAudio seems to be the thing to do it with
[16:18] <starn> natively xubuntu uses alsa
[16:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://www.pulseaudio.org/
[16:18] <starn> and WhereIsMySpoon i tried using pulse on same machine with ubuntu than xubuntu and ended up breaking everything.. hence fresh install...
[16:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol really?
[16:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> nice
[16:19] <starn> oh wow i made it come out both.... not exactly how i wanted but it's a step.
[16:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843012
[16:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> try that
[16:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=922860
[16:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> and this i think
[16:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> ohhhhh
[16:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> i see whats happening
[16:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> this terminal launches nautilus forking it
[16:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> but not most other apps
[16:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> how interesting
[16:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> i guess thats useful
[16:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> you dont usually want nautilus to be clogging up a terminal
[16:33] <xsl> what file allows me to edit the applications menu?
[16:34] <holstein> you can try alacarte... or check out http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu
[16:34] <holstein> xsl: ^
[16:39] <xsl> tyvm
[16:45] <starn> in teamspeak my headphones or what ever appears to be playback device: HDA Intel(ALC1200 Analog) [plughw:0,0]   how would i figure out what to type for speakers? for like say a music player???
[17:26] <gour> evening
[17:27] <gour> have problem with my friend's machine (netbook) - can't login via gui manager (it looks like incorrect password), although same login works in cli. nay hint?
[17:28] <gour> it looks like lightdm created some mess
[17:30] <gour> mc
[17:32] <gour> ahh...repalced my keyboards..
[17:34] <gour> personally i'm not fan of lightdm and prefer lxdm over it
[17:34] <gour> having too many problems with it on arch---it was messing with locales
[17:37] <gour> hopefully it's not too difficult to replace lightdm with lxdm
[17:37] <gour> ahh, it looks xubuntu stuff is tied to lightdm :-(
[17:40] <gour> it looks that there are quite some horror stories about problems with lightdm & (x)ubuntu
[18:06] <gour> we're going to put arch on the machine instead of fixing this stupid issue...
[18:14] <`marianne`> hello!
[18:14] <`marianne`> i'm having problems with grub every time i try to install... ugh... any linux atm
[18:15] <`marianne`> trying to install xubuntu again, maybe from there i can do a boot repair
[18:15] <`marianne`> but boot repair has been, unusually, failing badly
[18:15] <`marianne`> anyone else been having problems with grub lately?
[18:15] <holstein> nope... whats the trouble?
[18:15] <holstein> i know, i would likely test the hardware at that point
[18:16] <`marianne`> well, as will happen most likely after i finish this install, i'll get a plain grub command line
[18:16] <holstein> `marianne`: do you get to the desktop live?
[18:16] <`marianne`> and any time i try to update-grub after fixing it with boot repair, it whines at me about being out of memory and syntax errors in the newly generated grub.cfg.new
[18:17] <`marianne`> holstein, i can boot the livecd, yeah
[18:17] <holstein> sudo update-grub
[18:17] <holstein> report whatever whining, and we can troubleshoot that
[18:17] <`marianne`> but i'm having this weird grub problem with debian, linux mint, and *ubuntu
[18:17] <holstein> i would want to test that hard drive
[18:18] <holstein> yup.. and the hardware is a constant
[18:18] <holstein> if you get to a desktop live, then the hard drive is a constant option for a point of failure
[18:18] <`marianne`> *pouts* i hope not
[18:19] <holstein> yeah?... hardware is cheap... id rather just know and replace it and move on
[18:19] <`marianne`> anyway, install finished, guess i'll see if it worked lol
[18:19] <holstein> relatively cheap i should say
[18:19] <`marianne`> sure, me too, but i just had to replace a dodgy graphics card lol
[18:19] <`marianne`> after deciding to treat myself to a bluray player
[18:19] <`marianne`> anyway, back in a bit, lets see if it works :)
[18:40] <`marianne`> well, that didn't work
[18:41] <`marianne`> even after a default boot repair
[18:45] <`marianne`> perhaps i should just get an SSD
[18:45] <`marianne`> given that i've wanted one for forever, and 120gb isn't too unreasonable a price
[19:07] <MeXTuX> I installed Ubuntu 11.10 and want to try Xubuntu. Is it as easy as enter sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ??? :)
[19:08] <baizon> MeXTuX: yes
[19:08] <baizon> MeXTuX: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu
[19:12] <MeXTuX> Is the notification system the same as in GNOME??
[19:12] <baizon> MeXTuX: yes
[19:12] <baizon> the indicator applet
[19:42] <joel135> what handles wallpapers in xubuntu?
[19:43] <joel135> how do I turn it off/on?
[19:44] <hobgoblin> joel135: right click - desktop settings - none in Image
[19:46] <joel135> I can't do that without logging out and in right now (no pcmanfm running) what's the command?
[19:47] <joel135> or how do I start pcmanfm at the desktop again without logging out?
[19:52] <joel135> turns out I'm using lubuntu... bye :)
[21:55] <Dayofswords> is there some way I can get similar functionailty as the right-click >encrypt/sign/descypt that seahorse can do on normal ubuntu?
[22:17] <ThePendulum> How do I mount an ISO file?
[22:18] <ThePendulum> It says it can't find it in /fstab, which is true, because the file is in my home folder
[22:28] <TheSheep> !iso
[22:30] <Dayofswords> also, there is archive mounter, haven't used it yet in xubuntu
[22:32] <ThePendulum> I tried the mount command, but as I said, it returns that the file can not be found in the /fstab folder
[22:32] <ThePendulum> For my file is in the home folder, not in fstab
[22:32] <TheSheep> ThePendulum: because you didn't type it like in the example
[22:33] <ThePendulum> What did I miss?
[22:33] <ThePendulum> Oh wait
[22:33] <ThePendulum> a / at the end for setting the mount point to its root
[22:33] <TheSheep> ThePendulum: don't moount at /
[22:33] <ThePendulum> So apparently, I mounted it
[22:34] <ThePendulum> Where else?
[22:34] <TheSheep> ThePendulum: mount at some directory you created for that
[22:34] <TheSheep> ThePendulum: if you mount at your system's /, it will crash horribly
[22:34] <ThePendulum> Well, it didn't
[22:34] <ThePendulum> lol
[22:48] <Dayofswords> does anyone else has issues copy/patsing file from thunar(?) file manger on tot he desktop?
[22:48] <Dayofswords> on to the*
[22:48] <ThePendulum> Works just fine for me
[22:48] <ThePendulum> What folder are you trying to copy from?
[22:50] <Dayofswords> any file actually, i copy a file(right click, copy) in the file manager and then right click on desktop, and the paste option is unavavble. i go to the desktop fold int he file manager and i can patse it.
[22:50] <Dayofswords> jeez that was some bad typing...
[22:50] <Dayofswords>  i go to the desktop folder in the file manager and i can paste it.*
[22:51] <ThePendulum> That seems to be true indeed
[22:51] <ThePendulum> Can't you just drag it?
[22:52] <Dayofswords> yes, that works.
[22:52] <Dayofswords> i go look around and see if it's a bug
[22:54] <Dayofswords> i think this is it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/351816