[05:57] <jimbaker> hazmat, thanks for the review. just one point: in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/juju/2012-February/001259.html, niemeyer mentions "This is the key problem we have to fix, and it's been on our TODO since inception: commands such as relation-get and relation-set must work out of band, outside of any hooks."
[05:58] <jimbaker> now it's possible this doesn't mean outside of juju machines... but juju do was formulated in response to this discussion
[08:35] <rog> mornin' all
[09:11] <rog> TheMue: hiya
[09:12] <TheMue> rog: morning
[11:36] <TheMue> lunchtime
[13:46] <hazmat> jimbaker,  niemeyer only meant outside of relation hooks
[13:47] <hazmat> its not sane other wise ;-)
[13:58] <rog> lunch
[14:05] <hazmat> jimbaker, well more specifically any of the juju hook cli api can be invoked at any time on a unit if the appropriate args are passed
[14:35] <hazmat> niemeyer, oddly right after i talked up the relative bug free-ness of the scheduler i find a bug :-(
[14:53] <niemeyer> hazmat: :(
[14:53] <niemeyer> hazmat: Glad you found it, though
[14:53] <hazmat> and another one in the invoker
[14:53] <hazmat> indeed, me too
[14:54] <hazmat> niemeyer, fwereade_ do you guys have time to do that g+ meeting?
[14:54] <hazmat> on constraints?
[14:54] <fwereade_> hazmat, sure
[14:54] <niemeyer> hazmat: Oh, indeed
[14:54] <niemeyer> Yep, I'm glad to have it now
[14:55] <hazmat> niemeyer, fwereade_ invites out
[14:56] <niemeyer> I'min
[14:56]  * niemeyer observes hazmat speaking to himself
[14:57] <niemeyer> ROTFL
[14:57] <fwereade_> hazmat, niemeyer, noone here, retrying
[14:58] <TheMue> niemeyer: could you pls take a look at  http://paste.ubuntu.com/863536/
[14:58] <niemeyer> TheMue: On the call now, but what about this code?
[14:59] <TheMue> niemeyer: after i created a fresh unit Resolved() has a ZNONODE, e'thing fine
[14:59] <TheMue> niemeyer: then i do a SetResolved() first time => ok
[15:00] <TheMue> niemeyer: then a second time => i get the right error returned
[15:00] <TheMue> niemeyer: but then, when i do a Resolved() i again have a ZNONODE
[15:00] <hazmat> https://code.launchpad.net/~fwereade/juju/constraint-types/+merge/85637
[15:01] <TheMue> niemeyer: after the internal ZNODEEXISTS of SetResolved() i didn't expected this
[15:38] <TheMue> niemeyer: aaaargh, got it, used a wrong path function internally. gna, layer 8 error! :(
[15:39] <TheMue> niemeyer: yeah, that's it. once doing it right it works. next test passed
[17:02] <jimbaker> hazmat, niemeyer - weekly meeting?
[17:04] <hazmat> jimbaker, sounds good
[17:05] <jimbaker> hazmat, cool
[17:07] <hazmat> jimbaker, niemeyer, fwereade_, SpamapS, bcsaller, jcastro, TheMue, m_3  invites out
[17:07] <hazmat> incidentally if anyone else wants to watch these meetings please just let me know
[17:07] <jcastro> I'll be there!
[17:08] <m_3> hazmat: thanks, won't try to make this week
[17:09] <hazmat> m_3, no worries
[17:11] <niemeyer> hazmat: Sorry
[17:11] <niemeyer> hazmat: Was out for lunch
[17:12] <niemeyer> hazmat: I'm in now.. is it rolling?
[17:12] <hazmat> niemeyer, just waiting for you
[17:15] <niemeyer_> Clearly, my network felt down just now
[17:15] <niemeyer_> :/
[18:35] <niemeyer_> TheMue: Did you resolve all the issues there?
[18:35] <niemeyer_> TheMue: Or still need some info?
[18:57] <rog> off the night. see y'all tomorrow
[19:00] <TheMue> niemeyer_: everything resolved, has been a simple fault (once you found it *smile*)
[19:00] <niemeyer_> TheMue: Isn't it always :)
[19:00] <niemeyer_> rog: Night!
[19:04] <TheMue> niemeyer: yep, in my case i simply took the wrong zk path