| apachelogger | another night without sleep :( | 03:03 |
|---|---|---|
| ScottK | Sleep is for the weak. | 03:13 |
| apachelogger | turns out no sleep makes you weak | 03:20 |
| apachelogger | very confusing | 03:20 |
| apachelogger | again no jon | 03:25 |
| apachelogger | meh | 03:25 |
| * ScottK thinks claydoh moved just so he wouldn't be closest to Jon the Taco and have to go beat on his door. | 03:39 | |
| apachelogger | we can hire someone to do that though | 03:50 |
| ScottK | claydoh: You didn't by chance have release notes for the beta put together would you? | 04:09 |
| * ScottK doesn't know if anyone asked. | 04:10 | |
| apachelogger | ScottK: also ask that guy who wanted to help with release notes last cycle around | 04:11 |
| * ScottK doesn't remember who that was. | 04:11 | |
| apachelogger | me neither | 04:14 |
| apachelogger | :S | 04:14 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/how-kubuntu-did-not-change/#comment-1582 | 04:14 |
| apachelogger | https://launchpad.net/~lunarcloud | 04:15 |
| apachelogger | if that is the same person | 04:15 |
| ScottK | Looks like. Would you email him? | 04:25 |
| Mamarok | apparently something cause a regression in the update 2 days ago of kde-window-manager-common in Precise | 11:41 |
| Mamarok | I now have single click adding tracks to the playlist in Amarok | 11:42 |
| Mamarok | how is this even possible? Isn't that just a build update? | 11:42 |
| Riddell | single click on what? that doesn't sound like anything to do with kwin | 11:55 |
| Mamarok | single click on a track | 11:59 |
| Riddell | rbelem: you'll need to check the startactive actually works as a login session before I can upload it | 11:59 |
| Mamarok | and nothing was changed in Amarok | 11:59 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: that's a global setting somewhere for KDE, maybe related to the widget theme | 11:59 |
| Mamarok | I know, but normally a single click in Amarok just selects the track, it doesn't add it to the playlist | 12:00 |
| Mamarok | that is very weird, it started today and the only thing I changed was an update in Precise | 12:01 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: I believe there's a discussion ongoing on ubuntu-devel about touchpads | 12:19 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-February/034852.html | 12:20 |
| Riddell | it takes a double click on a Local Collection track on the left to put it in the playlist on the right for my Amarok | 12:24 |
| ScottK | Mamarok: The kde-workspace update from two days ago was just a packaging change. It didn't change any upstream code, so thtat's not it. | 12:29 |
| === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch | ||
| Mamarok | ScottK: that is what I guessed | 13:09 |
| Mamarok | shadeslayer: how is that related to my question? | 13:10 |
| shadeslayer | brrr ... I got over excited and read the question wrong -.- | 13:13 |
| Riddell | agateau: did you e-mail the kde-telepathy team about message indicator? | 13:48 |
| agateau | Riddell: no, I am having so much fun hacking gnome-control-center I can't stop | 13:56 |
| * agateau is grumpy | 13:56 | |
| === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback | ||
| Riddell | agateau: porting it to Qt I hope | 14:09 |
| Riddell | !testers | 14:12 |
| ubottu | Testing help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, em | 14:12 |
| Riddell | some more needed for beta 1 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/208/builds | 14:12 |
| Riddell | claydoh: beta release today. I guess you're not available for last minute release page? | 14:22 |
| Riddell | sorry I should have started pinging about that days ago | 14:23 |
| Riddell | how's this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview#Kubuntu | 14:23 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://clang.debian.net/ < Seen that? | 14:50 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Riddell | shadeslayer: nope, should we care? | 14:59 |
| Quintasan | I don't think so | 15:00 |
| Riddell | ooh hi Quintasan | 15:00 |
| yofel_ | Riddell: I'll do the remaining DVD amd64 test, and the auto-resize ones for the alternate images. Can't do the others | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | \o | 15:00 |
| Riddell | nobody seen Darkwing I take it? | 15:00 |
| yofel_ | hey Quintasan | 15:00 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| Quintasan | yeah, hi yofel | 15:02 |
| Quintasan | Curses, I was hoping to do something but I have to go | 15:04 |
| Quintasan | Bloody hell. | 15:04 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: interesting one | 15:04 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: exams over? | 15:04 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: I can't seem to reproduce your changelog issue with xfprint4 | 15:08 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: At a glance, I'd say that KIO fscked up a bit and didn't return in an error state when it encountered the 404 | 15:11 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: not right now, but maybe in the (near) future | 15:25 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: yep | 15:25 |
| shadeslayer | Oh btw, I recieved my kindle today and surprise surprise, I can ssh into it | 15:27 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: crazy, what's it running? | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | Linux | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | 2.26 I think | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | ah no, 2.6.26 | 15:36 |
| Riddell | yeah but any recognisable distro? | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer | lemme see | 15:37 |
| Riddell | can you apt-get install kubuntu-desktop? :) | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer | hah, not enough space probably :P | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer | there's just 1.25 GB's there | 15:38 |
| Riddell | dudes how's this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: [root@[192_168_15_244] root]# uname -a | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | Linux [192_168_15_244] 2.6.31-rt11-lab126 #1 Fri Sep 2 19:00:58 PDT 2011 armv7l GNU/Linux | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | ugh | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | stupid NM tries to tether to the kindle -.0 | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | just because I'm ssh'ing over usb | 15:47 |
| Riddell | armv7, you could run ubuntu on it :) | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer | but what's the use, it has a grayscale screen :P | 15:50 |
| Riddell | maybe KDE still has a monochrome theme | 15:50 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.kde.org/431912/ | 15:50 |
| * shadeslayer tries dmesg | 15:51 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: any /etc/lsb-release ? | 15:52 |
| shadeslayer | nope, tried that | 15:52 |
| Riddell | any rpm or dpkg installed? | 15:52 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 15:52 |
| Riddell | I wouldn't have thought so, they have got an embedded comany to do it or done it in house | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | they do have a webkit browser ... :D | 15:53 |
| Riddell | knowing Jeff Bezos he just got an intern to follow Linux from Scratch :) | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | hahah | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | even has tar ... awesome | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | Hardware : Amazon.com MX50 YOSHI Board | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | Freescale? | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.kde.org/431918/ | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | whoa | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer | even has fsck in sbin | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer | heh, 249 megs of RAM :D | 15:57 |
| Riddell | how's this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu/10.04LTS | 16:07 |
| JontheEchidna | looks good | 16:09 |
| yofel | Riddell: maybe mention that they might get a harmless crash window | 16:09 |
| yofel | and in my tests I belive NM was there after upgrade | 16:09 |
| yofel | but I had both apper and muon-updater telling me that I have updates available | 16:09 |
| JontheEchidna | btw, for precise+1 we'll just have to point users to this: http://i.imgur.com/NYJTp.png | 16:12 |
| yofel | :D | 16:13 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: well not for the beta | 16:14 |
| Riddell | and even that needs pointed to | 16:14 |
| Riddell | presumably you'll keep a systray icon? | 16:14 |
| JontheEchidna | yes, the systray icon is still there | 16:15 |
| JontheEchidna | this just provides a manual way in case the tray icon was dismissed | 16:15 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: nice | 16:17 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: the issue I had recently was about amarok's mp3 installed claiming to work when it didn't having not done apt-get update after install | 16:17 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, presumably because the apt cache didn't have universe/multiverse sources due to a internet-less install? | 16:18 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, that's a bit of a tough one | 16:18 |
| Riddell | yes | 16:19 |
| JontheEchidna | well, thankfully that got me looking into the qapt-gstreamer-helper and I found a bunch of other bugs that I could fix :P | 16:19 |
| Riddell | it just needs qapt to recognise that and run a refresh?? | 16:19 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, recognizing that is a bit difficult | 16:19 |
| yofel | is it? can't you just check if there are universe lists in /var/lib/apt/lists/ ? | 16:20 |
| yofel | wouldn't be bullet proof, but at least something | 16:21 |
| JontheEchidna | I may just add a new option to qapt-batch. Something like "--install-and-update" | 16:23 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think I can just make the qapt-worker check for updates before it installs something, though. It would break the worker's "state machine's" sequence of events | 16:24 |
| JontheEchidna | apps aren't expecting to receive cache update events after running the commit changes command | 16:25 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: anything good in Amarok 2.5 we should include in our beta announcement? | 16:26 |
| Mamarok | iPod support got much better, and we have the mp3 store now | 16:32 |
| * ScottK wouldn't announce the mp3 store. | 16:41 | |
| ScottK | Canonical will want a cut. | 16:41 |
| Mamarok | well, they don't support Kubuntu anymore, why would they dare to ask for a cut? | 16:56 |
| Mamarok | alos his is already provided by a company, so the can't | 16:56 |
| Mamarok | also* | 16:56 |
| Riddell | the annoying thing about the mp3 shop is it has a first run dialogue :( | 17:03 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: got a screenshot? | 17:03 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: there are plenty of screenshots on our release page :) | 17:03 |
| Mamarok | oh, and better gpodder integration, enhanced dynamic playlists | 17:04 |
| ScottK | Mamarok: They didn't do anything for Banshee either and that didn't stop them. | 17:09 |
| Mamarok | well, there is no company behind Banshee AFAIK | 17:09 |
| ScottK | True, but I think a company would just cause them to think they have someone to negotiate with. | 17:10 |
| Mamarok | but in the case of Banshee they had to negotiate a contract with Amazon, something they can't do for Amarok :) | 17:11 |
| ScottK | No, Banshee already had an amazon store setup. What Canonical did was divert the referrals to a different provider ID. | 17:12 |
| ScottK | I agree it's a different situation, but I'm not at all confident they wouldn't try. | 17:12 |
| Riddell | how's this? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/Beta1/Kubuntu | 17:14 |
| Riddell | ScottK: Mark also appologised for that and said it shouldn't have happened | 17:15 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: about the store you mean? | 17:15 |
| ScottK | Riddell: He apologized about not making it clear up front that Canonical would insist on taking a cut. | 17:16 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: yes | 17:16 |
| Mamarok | right... so maybe put a better iPod and gPodder integration and improved dynamic playlists, without talking about the store | 17:16 |
| Mamarok | but since Kubuntu is a community effort, what could he do? | 17:17 |
| Riddell | nothing | 17:17 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: what is gPodder? | 17:17 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I didn't follow it closely but I say something where he said it was all the fault of an uninformed manager (poor guy) | 17:18 |
| ScottK | Yes, but it was about how it was communicated, not about the decision to insist on taking a piece of the action. | 17:19 |
| Riddell | mm | 17:19 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: gpodder is an online personal podcast archive | 17:21 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: groovy added https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/Beta1/Kubuntu#Amarok_2.5 | 17:22 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: still a bit doubtful about that shop though | 17:25 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: why? ScottK scared you into thinking canonical will steal it? | 17:25 |
| Mamarok | don't we add 4.8.1 to Beta 1? | 17:25 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: right, if they want a cut I don't see what pressure they could have | 17:26 |
| ScottK | Mamarok: 4.8.1 isn't released yet. | 17:26 |
| Mamarok | true | 17:26 |
| Mamarok | but tagged | 17:26 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: they don't and won't | 17:26 |
| Mamarok | OK | 17:26 |
| Riddell | yay, yofel finished our last test! | 17:30 |
| Riddell | (except wubi but oh well) | 17:30 |
| yofel | alternate i386 resize is still running | 17:30 |
| yofel | that'll be the last one I can test | 17:30 |
| Riddell | yofel: you just ticked it as working? | 17:30 |
| yofel | Riddell: I ticked it as in progress | 17:31 |
| Riddell | yofel: that's a "passed" tick http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/208/builds/12677/testcases/67/results | 17:31 |
| Riddell | oh i386 | 17:31 |
| yofel | But I would be surprised if that failed, considering the amd64 one passed | 17:31 |
| Riddell | ok we'll hang in there | 17:31 |
| yofel | I'll be done in ~20min | 17:32 |
| * Riddell holds breath | 17:32 | |
| yofel | Riddell: ship it | 18:04 |
| Riddell | yofel: awooga! thanks for testing | 18:04 |
| Riddell | now we're just waiting on these lazy ubuntu people to finish their side :) | 18:04 |
| JontheEchidna | blah, wiki's being wonky. | 18:32 |
| Riddell | it does that when we want to release, it's just the wiki's way of telling us it needs more hugs | 18:33 |
| Riddell | or pay rise, one or the other | 18:33 |
| jussi | I vote for wiki hugs | 18:43 |
| JontheEchidna | lol @ kde-devel: http://i43.tinypic.com/30j0gvp.png | 18:46 |
| ulysses | :D | 18:46 |
| jussi | JontheEchidna: epic! | 18:57 |
| yofel | lol | 19:10 |
| Riddell | this looking good? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/precise/beta-1/ | 19:23 |
| jussi | Riddell: whats the difference between 1 and 3 ? | 19:24 |
| Riddell | jussi: where? | 19:24 |
| jussi | Riddell: Desktop CD and Install/live DVD | 19:25 |
| jussi | oh duh | 19:25 |
| jussi | you know, too many days at MWC makes the brain stupid | 19:26 |
| Riddell | hopefully that can be just "USB/DVD" image for next cycle | 19:26 |
| jussi | so when are we getting HUD for kubuntu? :D :P | 19:28 |
| Riddell | ask afiestas | 19:30 |
| Riddell | he's already coded it | 19:30 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: you'll note there has only been this waiting malarkey since I stop having time to test everything under the sun | 19:30 |
| jussi | Riddell: really? o.O | 19:31 |
| Riddell | davmor2: waiting on the poor under-resourced ubuntu desktop team you mean? | 19:31 |
| jussi | hi davmor2 | 19:32 |
| Riddell | davmor2: if they'd only ask for help from the kubuntu community I'm sure we could manage to give them a hand | 19:32 |
| * jussi throws mwc stress balls at davmor2 | 19:32 | |
| davmor2 | jussi: how do | 19:32 |
| davmor2 | jussi: I have a novell one that is far more fun to stress out on :) | 19:33 |
| jussi | davmor2: tired, looking forward to going home | 19:33 |
| Riddell | jussi: that'll be a late night at the office for you then | 19:33 |
| jussi | Riddell: hrm? | 19:34 |
| jussi | Riddell: Im in barcelona, sadly | 19:34 |
| Riddell | oh that'll be a late night party on the beach for you then :) | 19:36 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: the page reads Beta 1, but point 2 says "Beta 2 Highlights", you might want to change that :) | 19:36 |
| jussi | Riddell: nah, Im thinking sleep - since I dont really get any at home | 19:37 |
| dmatt | hi, which beta-1 image needs more testing? | 19:38 |
| jussi | Riddell: ^^ | 19:38 |
| Riddell | dmatt: beta-1 testing is done now | 19:39 |
| dmatt | Riddell: ok, so i test it for myself only | 19:41 |
| Riddell | dmatt: well if you find any bugs we need to fix before beta 2 we're still interested | 19:44 |
| Riddell | same for upgrade testing | 19:44 |
| dmatt | Riddell: is upgrading from system which uses KDE 4.8 ppa valid testing case? | 19:51 |
| yofel | it is | 19:51 |
| Riddell | dmatt: yes that would be interesting | 19:52 |
| Riddell | dmatt: and can you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu ? | 19:53 |
| Riddell | to test it's readable | 19:53 |
| jussi | Im off to sleep. goodnight all | 19:56 |
| dmatt | Riddell: It is ok, i would add 1 empty line between text and screenshot to all points like it is in first point | 19:57 |
| Riddell | dmatt: can you edit it? (I'm kindae busy releasing beta 1 for ubuntu) | 19:58 |
| dmatt | and it would be really useful, if there was link at the end to "Not everything went smoothly, what do I do next?" | 19:59 |
| dmatt | i am editing it right now, did not know i have rights | 19:59 |
| dmatt | actually, I was little bit too fast, on third try it logged me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community, but i am not able to navigate to upgrade text | 20:03 |
| yofel | dmatt: at the bottom right of the upgrade page, there's a "show editing options" button | 20:08 |
| dmatt | it was some browser problem with cache, now it's ok | 20:09 |
| dmatt | finished, but I would really love to add some link to troubleshoot page in case "Not everything went smoothly", if any exists | 20:14 |
| dmatt | I had lot of failed upgrades myself and I never knew, how to a, extract any useful information if it was test b, how I finish upgrade process once it started | 20:17 |
| Riddell | who wants to put a quick beta 1 announce on kubuntu.org? | 20:21 |
| Riddell | pointing to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/12.04/beta-1/ and the wiki page I made | 20:22 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/Beta1/Kubuntu | 20:22 |
| Riddell | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-lts-beta-1 | 20:35 |
| Riddell | 12.04 LTS Beta 1 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/Beta1/Kubuntu ! | 20:37 |
| Riddell | party! | 20:37 |
| yofel | new networkmanagement uploaded | 20:41 |
| Riddell | ooh thanks yofel | 20:42 |
| yofel | rekonq's next | 20:43 |
| debfx | I was hoping we could sync networkmanagement from Debian | 20:45 |
| yofel | I merged it | 20:46 |
| yofel | they don't have some breaks/replaces that we still need, and I changed some other things in control | 20:46 |
| yofel | see changelog | 20:46 |
| yofel | we can probably sync for 12.10 | 20:47 |
| debfx | ah, oh | 20:49 |
| debfx | yeah, those recommends are bad (pulling in openvpn ...) | 20:50 |
| micahg | are there any kubuntu images from universe ATM? (I'm about to send out an E-Mail warning people not to break universe images) | 20:57 |
| yofel | micahg: we're staying main for 12.04 | 20:58 |
| micahg | yofel: yes, I know :), I was wondering if there were any secondary things (IIRC, mobile was part universe at some point) | 20:58 |
| yofel | hm, not sure about active | 20:58 |
| yofel | rbelem: ^ | 20:59 |
| yofel | Riddell: ^ | 20:59 |
| ScottK | micahg: Active is in Universe AFAIK. | 21:03 |
| soee | Riddell: hi can you tell me how can i upgrade 11.10 to 12.04 ? | 21:03 |
| yofel | soee: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-lts-beta-1 | 21:04 |
| micahg | ScottK: if I lump Kubuntu in general in with the other flavors will that be bad or should I single out Kubuntu active? | 21:05 |
| ScottK | Ummmmm. It depends. What are you doing? | 21:05 |
| soee | yofel: my xserver doesnt work, can i do it from terminal | 21:05 |
| soee | ? | 21:05 |
| yofel | soee: just run 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d' for a terminal upgrade | 21:06 |
| micahg | ScottK: sending out an e-mail to not break flavor images by uploading random stuff to universe :) | 21:06 |
| soee | yofel: this doesnt worl | 21:06 |
| soee | *work | 21:06 |
| yofel | soee: what happens? | 21:06 |
| soee | i have only message that new version wasnt found | 21:06 |
| yofel | did you use -d ? | 21:06 |
| soee | yes | 21:07 |
| yofel | @_@ | 21:07 |
| soee | first message that checking new release availability | 21:08 |
| soee | second that new release wasnt found | 21:08 |
| yofel | wait, I'm fetching my upgrade test oneiric VM image | 21:08 |
| yofel | soee: ok, idiocy check: update-manager-core installed? all updates installed? internet connection working? | 21:14 |
| soee | yofel: yes | 21:14 |
| yofel | then, can you pastebin what it exaclty says? | 21:14 |
| soee | yofel: its in polish language | 21:15 |
| yofel | run: sudo -E LANG=C do-release-upgrade -d | 21:15 |
| yofel | works fine here | 21:16 |
| soee | Checking for a new Ubuntu release | 21:16 |
| soee | No new release found | 21:16 |
| yofel | -.- | 21:16 |
| Riddell | micahg: active will be universe but isn't part of beta 1 | 21:16 |
| soee | ok lets try to fix xserver than firsrt | 21:17 |
| soee | cant say why it stop working | 21:17 |
| micahg | Riddell: thanks | 21:17 |
| yofel | soee: is kubuntu-desktop installed? | 21:18 |
| soee | i have change my graphic card but im not sure if this is the problem | 21:18 |
| yofel | shouldn't unless you were using propietary graphics drivers | 21:18 |
| soee | yofel: drivers were from x-swat ppa | 21:18 |
| yofel | and the card is? | 21:19 |
| soee | hmm trying ti install kubuntu-desktop i have few dependency problems (kde-windows-manager, kdm etc) | 21:19 |
| soee | yofel g-force 560 | 21:19 |
| yofel | should be fine, make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed first | 21:20 |
| soee | cant reinstall it :/ dependency problems | 21:22 |
| yofel | apt-get update, then apply whatever apt-get install -f wants to do, then install kubuntu-desktop | 21:23 |
| soee | if i do apt-get update and than apt-get upgrad ei have only 2 packages that were stoped: kde-style-oxygen and systemsettings | 21:24 |
| ScottK | soee: Do sudo apt-get -f install | 21:25 |
| soee | ScottK: iv tried nothign to do | 21:25 |
| ScottK | do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and then try it again. | 21:25 |
| soee | ScottK: wont work - as i said 9 dependency problems | 21:27 |
| ScottK | Even with apt-get -f install? | 21:27 |
| ScottK | You probably have to remove your PPA packages. | 21:27 |
| soee | ScottK: yes even | 21:28 |
| ScottK | What's the exact error (pastebin please)? | 21:28 |
| soee | hard to pastebin when im on laptop and trying to fix desktop | 21:29 |
| yofel | use pastebinit | 21:29 |
| dmatt | Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/Beta1/Kubuntu typo "Beta 2 Highlights" | 21:29 |
| yofel | if it's installed... | 21:29 |
| soee | i can install it | 21:30 |
| soee | ok how can i send something using pastebinit ? | 21:33 |
| yofel | soee: <command> | pastebinit | 21:33 |
| soee | yofel: apt-get install kubunut-desktop result | 21:35 |
| soee | http://paste.ubuntu.com/864176/ | 21:35 |
| yofel | soee: what version does apt-cache policy kde-workspace-bin give you? | 21:35 |
| soee | hmm | 21:37 |
| soee | http://paste.ubuntu.com/864181/ | 21:37 |
| yofel | 4:4.8.0b-11.10ubuntu1~gnumdk25 is certainly not from us, and you don't have the backports ppa enabled, but only beta? | 21:37 |
| ScottK | https://launchpad.net/~gnumdk/+archive/ppa | 21:42 |
| ScottK | soee: Here's the problem. The precise version of kde-workspace is 4:4.8.0b-0ubuntu5. The one in that PPA is 4:4.8.0b-11.10ubuntu1~gnumdk25. The PPA version has a higher number, so you've still got that installed. | 21:43 |
| ScottK | Due to the way that PPA owner did their versioning, you're going to have to remove the PPA packages from that PPA (ppa-purge works well) before you can finish the upgrade. | 21:44 |
| yofel | ScottK: actually he doesn't have kde-workspace-bin installed (which is why he can't login) - and the PPA deps seems wrong | 21:44 |
| yofel | also, he only seems to have the beta ppa enabled, not backports | 21:44 |
| ScottK | And it depends on the kubuntu-backports PPA. | 21:45 |
| ScottK | Here's who he should be asking for support: https://launchpad.net/~gnumdk | 21:45 |
| soee | so what ppa should i remove ? | 21:46 |
| soee | (ppa-purge) | 21:46 |
| yofel | soee: ppa:gnumdk/ppa, after that: add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports | 21:46 |
| soee | ok work in progress | 21:48 |
| soee | ok, got lot of packages to update now | 21:51 |
| soee | kde 4.8.1 was released already ? | 21:56 |
| ScottK | No | 21:57 |
| soee | yofel, ScottK thank you | 22:00 |
| === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Thanks everyone for getting Beta1 tested! | Precise: Feature Freeze, time to squish beasties | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-kubuntu.html TODOs! | Kubuntu is alive and weller than before!! Read:http://wp.me/pQ8xr-gr | Jussi's new baby's name is Elodi! :) | ||
| soee | system works fine now :D | 22:00 |
| ScottK | soee: There's a reason to only use the stuff that Kubuntu devs do. | 22:00 |
| soee | whats the package name to isnstall desktop widgets ? (iconstasks) | 22:02 |
| yofel | soee: should be there by default | 22:02 |
| yofel | (plasma-widgets-addons I believe) | 22:02 |
| soee | yofel: yes this one was missing | 22:04 |
| soee | did you tested 12.04 beta1 already? | 22:11 |
| yofel | testing is done and beta1 is out, I personally have been running precise for quite a while already | 22:13 |
| soee | :< cant start upgrade again crap :) | 22:14 |
| soee | one moment | 22:14 |
| soee | exit | 22:15 |
| === k1ck-soee is now known as soee | ||
| soee | back | 22:15 |
| yofel | still doesn't work? o.O | 22:15 |
| soee | yofel, http://pastebin.com/pLGc646q | 22:16 |
| yofel | uh... great, stupid update manager | 22:17 |
| ScottK | Should be -d, but you still shouldn't get a crash | 22:18 |
| yofel | soee: run: sudo service apport start force_start=1, and file crash report apport should create | 22:18 |
| yofel | it'll be in /var/crash | 22:18 |
| yofel | after that run: sudo -E LANG=C kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade -d | 22:19 |
| ScottK | yofel: Where's that come from? In update-manager it's update-manager-kde | 22:20 |
| soee | yofel, http://pastebin.com/cUikdrYf | 22:21 |
| yofel | kubuntu-deve-release-upgrade is part of update-manager-kde which is from update-manager | 22:21 |
| yofel | great, stupid sudo | 22:21 |
| yofel | soee: LANG=C kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade -d | 22:22 |
| yofel | without sudo | 22:22 |
| soee | haha :) Checking for a new ubuntu release | 22:23 |
| soee | No new release found | 22:23 |
| soee | beta1 doesnt like me for sure | 22:23 |
| yofel | soee: what does lsb_release -r say for you? | 22:23 |
| soee | soee@soee-desktop:~$ lsb_release -r | 22:24 |
| soee | Release: 11.10 | 22:24 |
| * yofel is running out of ideas | 22:24 | |
| soee | duting apt-get update | 22:27 |
| soee | Błąd http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric/main Sources | 22:27 |
| soee | 404 Not Found | 22:27 |
| soee | Błąd http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric/main amd64 Packages | 22:27 |
| soee | 404 Not Found | 22:27 |
| soee | Błąd http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric/main i386 Packages | 22:27 |
| soee | 404 Not Found | 22:27 |
| soee | Błąd = Error | 22:27 |
| yofel | are you sure your connection is ok? | 22:27 |
| soee | yes :) | 22:27 |
| soee | im on my machine now | 22:28 |
| soee | im talking with you :D | 22:28 |
| yofel | soee: can you ping ppa.launchpad.net ? | 22:28 |
| soee | works fine | 22:28 |
| * yofel is out of ideas | 22:29 | |
| yofel | sorry -.- | 22:29 |
| micahg | are there oneiric packages published in those PPAs? | 22:30 |
| Riddell | anyone got a copy of darkwing's announcement? | 22:32 |
| soee | ok that 404 was related to one ppa, i fixed that | 22:39 |
| soee | but still: No new release found | 22:39 |
| soee | :/ | 22:39 |
| soee | no idea why | 22:39 |
| Riddell | how's this? http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-lts-announce | 22:41 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: ^^ | 22:49 |
| yofel | sounds right :) | 22:54 |
| * yofel is off to bed - good night | 22:55 | |
| soee | yofel, are you here maybe >? | 23:02 |
| soee | Riddell, got a moment ? | 23:05 |
| Riddell | hi soee | 23:06 |
| soee | listen i cant update to 12.04 using kde related methods | 23:07 |
| soee | so i did this: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal; | 23:07 |
| soee | now with sudo do-release-upgrade -d | 23:07 |
| soee | system wants to download updates but it is ~ 1700mb is it normal ? | 23:08 |
| Riddell | upgrade instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu | 23:08 |
| soee | Riddell, this one wont work | 23:09 |
| Riddell | it's normal that it wants to download whatever it needs | 23:09 |
| soee | Riddell, using described method system cant find any new release | 23:09 |
| Riddell | http://www.kubuntu.org/ updated, not wonderfully pretty but it's all I have the energy for tonight | 23:26 |
| Riddell | and my blog http://blogs.kde.org/node/4542 | 23:32 |
| Riddell | I think that's me for the night | 23:32 |
| * Riddell starts injecting himself with neat Irn Bru | 23:32 | |
| Riddell | "rekonq 0.9 stable!" <-- for the packaging! | 23:33 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i'm working to finish the active black screen | 23:33 |
| * Riddell is really happy with rekonq at the moment | 23:33 | |
| Riddell | rbelem: oh cool, you testing the login works? | 23:33 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i setup a virtual machine and made a cmd-line system installation | 23:35 |
| rbelem | Riddell, currently i'm using start and .xinitrc to get it working | 23:35 |
| Riddell | lighdm and a file in /usr/share/xsessions to run the startactive script would be the most accurate way to do it | 23:35 |
| rbelem | Riddell, yup! i tried that but it did not work | 23:36 |
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