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frankbanhi gmb. how are you doing?10:01
gmbMorning frankban. Not bad, still a bit achy. How are you?10:09
frankbanI am fine, I had a doctor visit this morning, I passed a bad night, but I'm ok now. have you seen the MPs from brad?10:11
frankbangmb: ^^^^10:11
gmbfrankban, I don't see them in my inbox. Let me take a look at launchpad...10:11
gmbfrankban, Ah, I see them now. Shall we take one each?10:12
* gmb claims https://code.launchpad.net/~bac/charms/oneiric/buildbot-master/bbm-pst/+merge/9527910:14
frankbangmb: ok, I will take the slave10:14
gmbCool10:14
frankbangmb: I have some doubts, would you like to hangout?10:26
gmbfrankban, Give me a few minutes to grab a drink, then sure.10:27
frankbangmb: thanks10:27
gmbAaaah10:41
* gmb hates G+'s multi-user crap10:41
gmbfrankban, I'm in https://plus.google.com/hangouts/extras/canonical.com/goldenhorde (sans camera)10:42
bacfrankban, gmb: thanks for taking those reviews12:06
* bac breakfasts and relocates12:06
gary_posterbac benji gmb frankban call (bac is already there, hi!)13:14
gary_posterbac, yoohoo13:15
gary_posterwe can her you13:15
gary_posterhear13:15
gary_posterContinuing on a theme: having a system that hangs several times a day is annoying and counterproductive.13:38
bacgary_poster, benji: in conversation with gmb and frankban the issue of access to local.py and helpers.py arose.  we're in the interim where symlinks don't work and our other solutions are not ready.13:45
bacone way to handle it would be to check in those files into the slave with the understanding from the group that they are to be kept in sync13:46
bacthe less appealing approach would be for the dev to have to manually copy them over to the slave before deploying13:46
bacstrong opinions, gary_poster or benji ?13:46
benjibac: I have a branch that does just that.  It should land today or you can make your own if you need to move faster.13:47
bacbenji, ok.13:47
bacbenji, does your branch do only that one thing, copy files to the slave?13:48
bacactually it would be best for it to be part of my branch, since i have made huge changes to helpers.py13:49
benjibac: it does other things too; yeah, you should probably go ahead then13:49
benji("other things" that don't change those files)13:50
* gmb -> lunch13:54
gary_posterbac, +1 on checking files in14:05
bac-master and -slave pushed14:11
benjigary_poster: things look good, I'm starting on the MP(s) now14:27
gary_posterbenji, great14:27
gary_posterfrankban, https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/extras/canonical.com/goldenhordeoneonone when you are ready14:31
benjigary_poster: I played with your broadcast-via-chinstrap idea last night/this morning and updated https://dev.launchpad.net/yellow/RemoteTerminalBroadcasting14:31
benjiI'm really happy with the result.14:31
gary_posterbenji, wow, awesome14:32
bacgary_poster, i have an appt at 4:15.  could we move our call earlier a bit?14:44
gary_posterbac, of course.  looking at calendar...14:52
gary_posterYou know, the Midori webkit browser makes chrome look slow14:53
benjigary_poster (or anyone else): comments on or reviews of https://code.launchpad.net/~benji/launchpad/add-sudoers-to-lxcsetup/+merge/95373 welcome14:53
gary_posterprobably because it doesn't do all that much :-)14:53
gary_posterbenji, great, I'll take it in a sec if no one else does14:53
benjiMidori looks cool; if it would do something like "it's all text" then I might use it14:54
gary_posterbac, I could talk at 11 or 11:15 probably; 11:30 or 12:00 would be fine; maybe we could get 2 to work otherwise (we might have to switch with Monsieur York)14:56
gary_posterbac, what do you prefer?14:57
gary_posterbenji, I thought we were able to get rid of sshpass.  That didn't work after all?15:06
gary_posterbenji, also, as written the tests will run as ubuntu user15:07
gary_posterI think that is bad15:07
gary_posterall the set up is as buildbot15:07
benjigary_poster: we got rid of it in one place; I didn't see if we could get rid of it in the other15:07
gary_postereven if we have to do sshpass to get in, I think we need to switch to buildbot user15:07
benjire. ubuntu user: looking15:07
gary_posterbenji, let's hang out; will go faster https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/extras/canonical.com/goldenhorde15:08
benjigary_poster: yeah, that script is old (the test script), since we don't know what it will eventually look like, I'm not sure what to change it to, we could at least remove the sshpass bit and leave the rest until we figure it out (and there is a chance it will stay the same)15:09
gary_posterbenji, yeah, I'd prefer to switch to the sudo approach we had yesterday, and remove the sshpass dependency15:09
gary_postersince neither works, that has the advantage of least harm15:10
gary_poster:-)15:13
gmbgary_poster: Call time?15:30
gary_postergmb, yeah, one sec15:31
gmbok15:31
gary_postergmb, sorry, was finishing conversation with benji. https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/extras/canonical.com/goldenhordeoneonone ?15:33
gmbgary_poster: Okidoke. There in a sec.15:33
gary_posterSorry, I should have used his nom-de-not-bothering, Monsieur York15:33
gary_posterbenji, back to hangout?  I do have a question about pastebin for lpbuildbot after all15:59
benjigary_poster: sure15:59
gary_posterbac, as I said, I could have call with you now16:00
gary_posterbut you did not reply :-)16:00
gary_poster11:30 or 12 would also work16:00
bacgary_poster, i did reply...now is good16:04
gary_posterbac, not in my log :-) but cool.  I'll be ready in 2 mins16:05
bacgary_poster, but it looks like i was disconnected16:05
gary_posterbac https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/extras/canonical.com/goldenhordeoneonone when you are ready16:07
bacjoining16:07
bacgary_poster, i don't see you16:08
bacyo you gary_poster16:09
gary_posterbac, hum back at you.  will retry16:09
bacer, yo yo16:09
gary_posterbac https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/extras/canonical.com/goldenhordeoneonone ?16:09
bacsorry16:09
gary_posterjust reloaded16:09
gary_posterbenji, btw, on the kanban board, I added the prefix "PROBABLY ALREADY FIXED" to the card titled """parallel tests in buildbot: OperationalError: FATAL:  role "root" does not exist""".  I believe it is fixed by the sudo running tests as the buildbot user, not root.16:50
benjicool16:50
gary_posterbenji, I'll be working through 12:50 or so, and then out for the 1 o'clock hour for babysitting duties.  I imagine you'll be eating soon?16:51
gary_posterIs there something I should run with for a bit, or should I look for something else?  I do have some things I can do16:52
benjigary_poster: I plan too.  As soon as I get my new(ish) VM to actually kick off ec2 land for this branch16:52
gary_posterbenji, ok cool16:52
benjigary_poster: the only thing from the MP that I didn't do was to replace the sleep; you could do that, I have code that I think will work16:53
gary_posterbenji, ok.  I'm going to work on proposing a deployment plan to the webops; that's probably a better choice for now16:54
benjik16:54
* gmb -> afk for a bit16:56
gary_posterlunch/babysitting17:52
* benji reboots18:37
* benji installs updates first18:37
gary_posterToo hot: 78 degrees upstairs, and don't want to turn the A/C on.  Migrating to porch.19:08
benjireplaing an already-existing /tmp with a ramdisk works, but it freaks me out so I'm rebooting now19:10
benjiwell that's great, Unity won't start19:21
benjigary_poster: I won't be here for a bit while I try to get Unity back19:21
gary_posterbenji, ack19:21
benjiand if I ever do, then we can have our one-on-one19:21
gary_posterbenji, curious to hear about the ramdisk then too :-)19:21
benjigary_poster: if I had copy/paste, then I could show you19:22
gary_posterheh, and :-/19:22
benjiheh19:22
benjiok, back in a bit... I hope19:22
gary_posterbenji has been conquered :-/19:43
bacwow, gary_poster, i've looked at pkgme ... and i'm not sure what's there.  the documentation is quite lacking.  nowhere does it actually tell you *what*to*do*20:25
gary_posterbac, I was thinking something similar.  Does --help help?  or does it have a man page?20:26
gary_posterUnder the category of "uh oh," why does the email that I just sent to rt (and spent a fair amount of time writing) not show up in my sent folder?20:42
gary_posterand why don't I have a reply from rt yet?20:42
* gary_poster does not want to write it again20:42
gary_posterAh, it was sent from my home address20:44
bacgary_poster: http://paste.ubuntu.com/864102/  i'm trying to use ez_setup but it complains that 'setup' is undefined20:47
gary_posterlooking bac20:47
baci thought that was the byproduct of calling use_setuptools()20:47
bacthe veritable raison d'etre of ez_setup20:47
gary_posterbac20:48
gary_posterfrom setuptools import setup20:48
gary_posterafter the ez_thing20:48
gary_posterez_setup monkeypatches (or similar) the distutils20:48
gary_posteryou still have to import it20:48
bacoops, i screwed up shelltoolbox then20:48

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