[00:03] I reinstalled lubuntu bt still can't get the mic to work - here is the alsareport if it is helpful : http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=306da35832559ecef3fa9c71022caa96728fbc09 [00:03] can someone help me? I've been trying things all day [00:20] Well, typically pulse supports more. [00:22] supports more what? [00:23] Devices, worth a shot I'd think. [00:26] How does one add more devices to pulse? and which device? [00:28] !pulse [00:28] PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions [00:50] :( [01:16] hihi - first time lubuntuer - My wireless is always disabled at startup. How do I set it to be enabled at default? [01:22] hi, I am trying to get my wireless card to work. but I don [01:22] t see any way to enter my password? [01:23] sharkmap: have you right-clicked on the icon and enabled network and wireless_ [01:23] ? [01:25] robinds, I wish I could, but in my ignorance, I removed it before I knew I would need it [01:25] I added a network status icon, but that doesn't do it [01:25] you can right-clilck on the panel and add the networking application [01:26] i will try that right now! [01:26] or go to preferences in the menu [01:26] laptop is very slow. will take a few seconds...sorry for the delay [01:26] under preferences there should be 'network connections' [01:27] i should say this is 10.04 because it is. sorry for not being clear before, if this is important [01:27] don't think so [01:27] just try to do as I explained [01:29] panel does not have 'networking connections', only 'network status monitor'. and under preferences, it is only 'network monitor' not connections? [01:29] sorry, network tools [01:30] tools opens, but I can't find where to put the password, or enable the wlan0 [01:30] sorry I am not fluent in this yet [01:31] I should say this the wireless card works great and automatically in gnome. but you knew that, right. :-) [01:34] what about this network status icon you added // will right-clicking it not reveal any options? [01:34] no, it's like a panel context menu. i can select 'network status monitor settings [01:35] but that only allows me to change from wlan0 to lo [01:36] network tools from the preferences menu lets me see the different network devices, but not enable/disable or set password. [01:36] sharkmap: 10.04 was only released as a beta. My personal advice is to grab 11.10, the first official release. It has the advantage of the standard ubuntu stuff for networking. [01:36] yes / I'm on 11.10 now / works fine [01:37] sharkmap: if you're left-clicking on the panel icon try right-clicking to get to enable [01:37] sharkmap: we do not have enough devs to backport things to 10.04, nor will 12.04 be a LTS release. simply not enough people to support all the stuff that needs doing. [01:38] wxl: how about my question..? How do I have wireless enabled by default? Every time I reboot I have to manually enable it.. [01:38] well, robinds, i will admit, on 11.10 i have that problem, too [01:38] i cannot run 11.10 on my old laptop, it is 9 years old, and 10.04 was the only one that would install. [01:38] is there an 11.10 DE for 10.04 ubuntu? [01:38] 11.10 crashes before it finishes installing [01:38] oh well. is there a cli way? [01:39] odd, I had the opposite problem... it wanted WiFi even when ethernet was plugged in! [01:39] neither right or left clicking gets me to anything that I can put a password in [01:39] sharkmap: no, i meant to ENABLE wireless [01:39] there is no option to enable or disable anything [01:40] sharkmap: there has been testing going on for the old CPU's to run under 12.04 [01:41] it says status disconnected and no way to connect. [01:41] so I should try 12.04? [01:41] no button to connect I should say [01:41] Too bad it's not as polished as I hoped. I really liked the idea of an ubuntu based distro with openbox [01:42] There is a linux kernel that is 12.04 yet still supports the "i586" chipset which lubuntu can be installed upon. but 12.04 is still beta, so it is not fully tested as of yet. [01:42] ok. I guess I will just use gnome, but it is dog slow, I like this DE [01:44] sharkmap: I cannot, in all honesty, ask that you install a beta system as your main system. what I can say is be patient, 12.04 is about a month and a half away. If we can confirm the old chip set on 12.04, you will have a bang up to date system running on an old chip set. We have diverted time to that instead of trying to keep 10.04 going. [01:45] hmmm. if the default install of lxde had the applet, what if I uninstall lxde then install it again? Or, alternately, is there a way to get it back to the 'default' look [01:45] you can have applets if you prefer. [01:45] thanks phillw I really appreciate the help, I understand that I am using an old version, and that the new version is beta. Its cool [01:45] applets? [01:45] it's on the FAQ section :) [01:46] looking now! [01:47] lubuntu.com or ubuntu.com? [01:48] sharkmap, use this link: http://tinyurl.com/LubuntuFAQ [01:48] it'll redirect you to the FAQs [01:52] I apologize for my lack of skills here, but I am unable to see an applet called network connections. only network monitor, which is what is there already but not working [01:52] sharkmap: is it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Changing_running_applications_in_panel_to_icons_only you were looking for? [01:53] sharkmap: sorry, I mis understood your request [01:53] no worries. If there is an issue/bug/problem, I will find it. If I find it, it's a tough one to figure out. [01:53] when I say find it, I really mean 'step in it' [01:54] on google there was a solution called 'madwifi' but I was unable to find it in the software center. [01:54] thanks for the help earlier, it seems to all be working now on a CF card (apart from chromium but that's not your remit), cheers! [01:55] sharkmap: is it a general network connection problem, or WiFi? [01:56] no, works in gnome just great. [01:57] lubuntu uses the standard network core [01:57] wait. I found a preferences option called 'windows wireless drivers' and that gives me a window with a button called network connections! yay! [01:57] wireless tab gives me the my ssid! yay! [01:57] sharkmap: :) [01:58] I added the WPA2 password, hit apply. fingers crossed! [01:59] logging out and logging back in again should work, or should I reboot? [01:59] log in & out should work [02:00] s/out and in [02:00] it didn't :-( [02:00] going back into network connections, the password is gone like I didn't put it in [02:00] the 'connect automatically' is checked'. shouldn't it ask me for the password when it tries? [02:01] I enter the info, and it doesn't save it. argh! [02:01] you could be on an old network programme, I'd suggest asking on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336 do remember to use the lubuntu tag so they know which system you are using [02:02] they still answer stuff about 9.10, so you should be okay :) [02:03] ok. thanks. [02:15] phillw, isnt 9.10 EOL? [02:15] or is my timing off? [02:15] !9.10 [02:15] Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) was the eleventh release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 29th 2011, see http://ubottu.com/y/karmic for details. [02:15] EvilResistance: long past EOL, I still have it [02:15] yeah i thought so [02:16] the borked my 3G device until 11.10, so it is my stand by system... still have it on my Cn [02:16] anon [02:16] Canonical USB device :) [02:16] nice little logo on it :) [02:18] phillw: if you have leaf applications you'd like backported, feel free to use requestbackport in ubuntu-dev-tools found in precise to request in-archive backports, the request should also let you know the burden of testing required for each thing requested [02:21] thanks, and with that, I'm heading for bed.... all you night owls can go test http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/208/builds all the lubuntu ones are virgins, built in the last hour or so..... [02:38] hey, how do I make my super key open the lubuntu program menu ? [03:00] phillw i tested the build please explain why it's important [03:42] I got wireless to work with lubuntu 10.04 finally [03:42] thanks to all for your help! [04:01] How do I keybind the super key to the lubuntu apps menu ? [04:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_want_to_bind_a_key_to_lock_my_screen.2C_how_do_I_do_it.3F Same idea. [05:36] I have a question [05:37] So...if I install lubuntu without the option third [05:37] The 3-party codec bla bla bla when installing lubuntu [05:38] What is it and what should I do to install it [05:39] oh don't worry [05:39] I found [05:39] bue bue [06:11] gdfgdfg [06:12] jghjfg [06:12] j [06:12] Do you need something? [09:00] hi, i want to install lubuntu alongside to an existing win 7 installation on my notebook [09:01] i tried this setup with an virtual box [09:01] without any problems [09:01] but now when i insert the cd and start the installation [09:01] the installer doesn't find my windows installation [09:01] and instead of asking me to install alongside [09:01] it wants to erase the whole disk [09:01] whats the prblem? [09:02] *problem [09:11] can anyone help me? [09:11] *somepne? [09:11] *someone? [09:18] UnknownCoder: maybe you could ask in #ubuntu since it is not a special LXDE question and in #ubuntu are much more users :) [09:21] thx [09:33] maybe you have to repeat your request on #ubuntu UnknownCoder, since there is much traffic [09:34] yeah i think so [09:34] thank you [09:52] np UnknownCoder === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial [10:37] does lubuntu work with wubi installer? [13:32] oh hi [13:33] i just found out for lubuntu [13:33] does lubunthu have firefox [13:35] if it's not, you can easily install it [13:36] is it lubuntu user friendly [13:37] you know, is it graphical like ubuntu is [13:40] can skype be installed on lubuntu [13:41] yes ubi [13:41] you can install everything from the Ubuntu repos [13:42] it is user friendly, designed for weak hardware [13:42] oh thx [13:43] can lubuntu be installed with mx windows XP as dual boot? [13:43] yes ubi [13:44] great [13:44] yes. Lubuntu es great, indeed :) [13:44] im gonna installit on my netbook [13:44] yes, it is a very good choice for netbooks [13:45] im gonna play games in XP and do stuff in lubuntu lol [13:46] yes, or install XP in a virtual box :) [13:46] whats that [13:47] ubi: https://www.virtualbox.org/ [13:48] so, first i install this virtual box in my lubuntu,and XP in it so i can run XP under lubuntu, is that right [13:52] yes, thats right ubi [13:52] if you dont run too heavy games :) [13:53] i can play half life 2 max settings on my netbook [13:53] but i will experiment with this for sure [13:54] yes, just install Lubuntu as dual boot, install the virtual box there with xp in it and test it, before you erase your xp partition :) [13:54] yeah that what i was gonna do [13:54] bye bye microsoft windows lol [14:00] :) [14:01] ty on info bb [14:30] Hi, lubuntu needs lost more tests to be released with beta 1 [14:30] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/208/builds [14:35] hi Riddell the results coming in by e-mail are all encouraging :) The .1 respin is also passing. [14:35] phillw: e-mail is not the correct way to report results, iso tracker is [14:37] Riddell: I am aware of that, but not all the lubuntu testers are completely familiar with it and it has been a mad scramble with 2 respins in about 10 hours ! [14:38] sure, I'm impressed you have testers at all (Kubuntu never has many), you have another hour or two before I need to publish them I guess [14:38] I will garner all the comments and email the qa-team. Some of the results have gone to them, others have not. === CTtechguy_ is now known as CTtechguy [15:19] Test lubuntu 12.04 livecd 64bit. update manager cant update and synaptic only with terminal it can be don. 2 icon in the panel dosent show network and driver install. 3 abiword still show black were you write. [15:29] hi thor_ would you knindly update http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/208/builds with your findings (please raise bugs for update manager and the missing icons) the abiword bug is known about, but out of our control. [15:32] phillw itś pain to do so, so i will make my bug report here [15:32] thor_ you should put the bug reports onto the respective location, bug reports to channels arent exactly recommended *anywhere* in any of the ubuntu (or derivative) channels. [15:33] thor_: if I was not on the channel, I'd have missed your report :( [15:33] EvilResistance: ubuntu channel what channel [15:34] i think phillw understands what i mean :P [15:34] but having brought it up... [15:34] !12.04 [15:34] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) will be the sixteenth release of Ubuntu. Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/784 - Blueprints at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 [15:34] Ubuntu / Kubuntu / Xubuntu / Lubuntu, etc. etc. etc. [15:35] i will try to make imagebin so you can see the panel [15:39] he he how it show the network and driver install. strange [15:39] thor_: only one bug to report, then :) [15:40] phillw year but it wash gone before [15:41] phillw now the update manager work again. very strange [15:42] philw it not stable yet [15:42] beta's are still test versions. [15:43] phillw okaY THANKS YOU [15:43] do i even have to point out that its not even *released* as stable yet? [15:43] possibly when you did the manual update from terminal it possibly pulled in a couple of bug fixes for you. [15:44] pwillw i will test then the next iso come [15:46] there were two isos released today, the liveCD's had two bug fixes on their 2nd release (it will show as .1 at the end of the name) [15:46] i have zsync .1 [15:49] you should have latest one, then. When you manaully updated from terminal did it bring any updates in? [15:49] no there was no one [15:50] none [15:50] most odd as to why it now works. I think it is a case of "rinse & repeat" to see if it does it again from LiveCD [15:50] rinse & repeat huh [15:51] shall i reboot and try again [15:54] thor_: please, yes :) [16:12] here a image off panel http://imagebin.org/201545 [16:15] the panel [16:24] phillw i made screenshot off desktop (rebootet) [16:26] thor_: yeah, I saw it. It needs a bug raising. please attach the link to the image in the bug report. What did you do to get the icons back? [16:28] phillw after the terminal i tryed the update manager then they were again [16:28] can you repeat that step? [16:29] phillw i will try again wait a little [16:32] phillw lubuntu just crash totally lock hade to reboot again [16:35] phillw the icons in the panel show only half after the reboot and after i clear the popup the icon is gone [16:41] thor_: is this what you are seeing? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/482684 [16:41] Launchpad bug 439448 in Release Notes for Ubuntu "duplicate for #482684 Visual corruption affecting several panel applets" [Undecided,In progress] [16:42] phillw i cant get icons back now. tryed first the terminal then synaptic because update manager wont update before i run synaptic, then update manager. still no icons [16:46] i can get the back shot then i click on wired connection but then is gone again [16:46] the icons [16:50] phillw the link you gave me. the icons are not replaced. there is none icons [16:52] okay, it was just that it mentioned a sound icon only that did not function. [16:53] phillw hmm i tryed to kill the network and conneted again now the show again [16:53] the icon [16:56] so it was the link you gave me, i fund that they solved with kill network then connect again [16:58] phillw thanks i will try again then the next iso comes [17:01] okay, it looks a well documented bug if you look at the 'master' bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/439448 [17:01] Launchpad bug 439448 in Release Notes for Ubuntu "Visual corruption affecting several panel applets" [Undecided,In progress] [17:07] phillw i cant see the master bug. it's the link you gave that solved the problem [17:08] it's first link [17:09] okies :) [17:10] phillw thankś [17:10] oh that bug is even more evil (from the size) then the first bug ever on launchpad [17:12] it does look like the daddy of all bugs! [17:13] and i was never facing that bug... [17:17] I have it when I use a 3G device, there is no connection icon although the 'gap' is still active i.e. you can click in the gap and the little menu pops up [17:18] phillw: ah [17:18] phillw: i created a bug about 3g, i should link it [17:18] i created it against lubuntu-desktop because i thought we are missing a dependency [17:18] I also have one - I'd have to go dig it out. [17:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/936421 [17:19] Launchpad bug 936421 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "[11.10 - 12.04] nm-applet on lubuntu does not show an icon when using UMTS/mobile broadband" [Undecided,New] [17:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/elementary-icon-theme/+bug/909156 [17:19] Launchpad bug 909156 in elementary-icon-theme (Ubuntu) "no 3G icon" [Undecided,New] [17:19] that is your bug [17:20] but i thought we are missing an icon and this big bug sounds different for me [17:21] i have to test "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop". i bet after that the 3g icon is in my lxpanel [17:22] phillw: would it be possible for the qa-team to test that? i dont have hardware ressources for that [17:24] or do we have some machines where we can do some testing and have vnc/freenx or something similar on it? [17:24] hello [17:24] I installed Lubuntu 11.10; the mouse wheel does not flow very well in web pages: If you have to put some string in the terminal? [17:29] osvaldo59: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#The_scroll_button_on_your_mouse_keeps_changing_the_Desktop_Workspace_even_when_you.27re_scrolling_through_a_folder_or_file. [17:31] phillw, thank you, by chance also exists in italinao? [17:32] it is not translated, sorry. [17:33] phillw, ok, thanks [17:37] osvaldo59: I'm fairly certain the Italian Ubuntu channel will give assistance [17:39] Myrtti, I'm already translating the page indicated by phillw [17:39] alright, great [17:48] How can I void changing desktops whit mouse scroll ? [17:48] avoid* [17:49] milen8204, check Openbox perf ... [17:57] valdur55: could you be more exactly... in Desktops have no option to chande desktops [18:01] milen8204, damn.. i don't remember it. [18:02] valdur55: ok, thanks for trying [18:03] ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml -there is config file [18:05] maybe you Oh and there is A-up mousebind [18:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/863827/ [18:07] Tehe are lines what you need comment out. [18:08] mikael64, when you don't use workspaces, then set 1 workspace :) === mh0- is now known as mh0 [19:00] milen8204: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#The_scroll_button_on_your_mouse_keeps_changing_the_Desktop_Workspace_even_when_you.27re_scrolling_through_a_folder_or_file [19:00] Sorry for delay, was having dinner! [19:35] hi, i want to install lubunut 11.10 alongside to my existing win7 installation [19:35] i tried this installation on a virtual-box-machine without any problems [19:36] but now i booted from the cd and startet the installer [19:36] when choosing the partition to install i only got the option to erase the whole disc or to partition manually [19:37] the installer doesn't seem to find the win7 installation [19:37] if i choose manual partitioning the partitionmanger shows me an empty disk [19:37] Have you tried the alt cd? I wouldn't see why desktop shouldn't pick it up though, you could also check gparted on the disk. [19:37] if is start the live-system i can mount the win7 partioin without problems [19:38] Unit193, you mean me? [19:38] Yep. [19:38] ah you mean the minimal install? [19:39] that one doesn't run on my virtual-box so i didn't try [19:39] but i can try [19:40] !alternate [19:40] The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal [19:40] Not the mini cd, different. [19:40] ok [19:40] thank you [19:40] i'll try it [19:40] calssic text mode is ok for me, using gentoo on another system ;) [19:42] phillw: I do not have that problem [19:43] phillw: I just want to change way of changing desktop [19:46] milen8204: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_want_to_bind_a_key_to_lock_my_screen.2C_how_do_I_do_it. shows the addition of a key (in this case Win - L) to carry out the lock screen action. You can use that example to bind a key to change desktops. [19:49] phillw: ok will try thanks [19:49] phillw & milen8204; what phillw is referring to is a section of the FAQ for adding *new* keyboard shortcuts [19:50] MrChrisDruif: or in our case, hopefully using that and the mouse scroll wheel changes my desktop entries to achieve what milen8204 wants :) [19:50] However, you need to find the already existing shortcuts for switching desktops in that file [19:52] I don't know exactly what milen8204 tries to accomplish, I was just stating what I already know and noticed so far [19:57] MrChrisDruif: I am trying to stop do desktop changing whit the mouse scroll [20:00] milen8204: which is what the original link I posted does... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#The_scroll_button_on_your_mouse_keeps_changing_the_Desktop_Workspace_even_when_you.27re_scrolling_through_a_folder_or_file [20:02] phillw: my scroll does NOT changing workspase when I am scrolling_through_a_folder_or_file [20:03] milen8204: but the mouse scroll is chnging your desktop, that link has how to disable it. [20:04] I tried but didn`t help [20:06] i do not have [20:06] [20:06] [20:06] [20:06] that text in file [20:08] milen8204: did you delete those files, save, then log off and back on again? [20:09] phillw: I cant see the files [20:09] phillw: I cant see the lines* [20:11] can you pastebin up the file, please? [20:13] phillw: :D I have seen my mistake [20:13] :D [20:13] nano is not showing all written lines just first ;) [20:13] milen8204: ahh, yes - you must use the down arrow :) [20:14] I have opened the file whit other texredaktor :D [20:14] silly me :D [20:14] phillw: I will be ok now, thanks for the help [20:15] gksudo leafpad will open a file up if you do not like to use nano, just remember to use gksudo and not sudo [20:15] cancel that... you're in your home directory - you don't need gksudo! [20:15] phillw: I have opened it whit sudo nautilus [20:16] phillw: can you check over http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/precise/beta-1/ ? [20:16] check MD5sums are right etc [20:18] milen8204: You really shouldn't use `sudo` with GUI applications. [20:18] Riddell: if I can work out a way to grab them onto the CentOS server, my internet speed is such that it takes about 4 hours to download an iso :( [20:18] I think I have current ISOs [20:18] I just zsynced them anyway. [20:18] Unit193: why ? [20:18] phillw: ask for an ec2 machine if you need one [20:19] Unit193: could you check the md5's please [20:19] milen8204: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo [20:20] Riddell: it's okay, wget on the SII server works... it has a 100Mb/S broadband link :) [20:21] Unit193: I am ex windows user and it is easy for me to use nautilus for fileview [20:21] grabbing at 8Mb/s :) [20:22] milen8204: Yes, and? [20:23] Unit193: i use onli nautilus as a superuser [20:23] only* [20:24] thanks for the warning [20:24] Riddell: lubuntu-12.04-beta1-alternate-amd64.iso is okay, grabbing next one now. [20:24] gksudo is the command for that, you *can* actually mess some things up in your /home with sudo. [20:25] phillw: do join us in #ubuntu-release to be part of the release proper [20:26] Unit193: If i so not mess the thinks one or twice :) how can I learn something :) [20:30] If I do not* [20:31] milen8204: trust me, you mess with sudo instead of gksudo it is a lesson you will NEVER forget... been there, got the 'Tee-Shirt' :( [20:33] ok I will be crefull [20:33] I will use gksudo [20:34] Unit193, hi remember my problem with the installer? [20:34] i allready have it using the alternate iso [20:34] Still? Is it encryped or anything? [20:34] everytime i boot up and try to part my disk, parted shows me that the disk is empty [20:34] not the whole partition [20:35] there are normal NTFS partitions containing two truecrypt-containers [20:35] and as i said before, if i start the live-system i can mount the ntfs-part and see all win-files [20:35] i do not get this :/ [20:35] myabe it is a bios setting [20:36] After you mount it, what happens if you run the installer? (I haven't hit this, so I don't know as much about it) [20:36] i am using ahci for the sata disks [20:37] if i mount and start the installer again he also shows me the option to part my disk manually or erase everything because all is "free space" [20:38] another strage thing is that if i choose "try lubuntu.." from the initial menu i only get a console-screen [20:38] only if i abort the graphical installation is will reach the live-system with a lxde [20:38] very strange.. [20:39] A few ideas from the forums it seems http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1835667 [20:40] thank you i'll check them out [20:40] What's sudo fdisk -l show? (Make SURE to get that lowercase L in there!) [20:41] Unit193, still rebooting. i'll try it asap [20:44] Unit193, fdisk -l shows all partitions as it should! [20:45] but in the forum you linked me i read about the GPT [20:45] and neither win 7 is using it nor gparted can handle it [20:45] so i should remove , shouldn't i? [20:45] This was another one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1874850 [20:46] but i am afraid of crashing my win 7 install [20:46] You should backup either way you go. [20:46] the problem is i have to use the main partition for my work but i don't have such a huge disk to do a complete image [20:46] :/ [20:47] ok same in the last link you gave me [20:47] Well, if nothing in there helps, you can visit #ubuntu. [20:48] i would have to convert the GPT to mbr [20:50] so i have to try to become a complete backup [20:50] tahnk you so far [20:50] Sorry can't help more. :/ [20:50] I would assume it wouldn't help to repartition in windows? [20:50] the links look very promising [20:50] They'd know more on it than I. [20:51] yeah but you showed me ;) [20:51] thank you !! [20:51] anyway i have to leave at the moment, will retry it later [20:51] bye [20:51] Well, glad I could help a little. Adios.