[00:00] <Daekdroom> Pendulum is not an animal, is it?
[00:01] <cheako> It can be, they saw ppl in half for example.
[01:11] <capslock286> Hi. I'm experiencing some troubles at login on 12.04. Is this the right channel to request some troubleshooting, on? :-)
[01:12] <Daekdroom> Yes, it is.
[01:13] <capslock286> great. anyone who would like to troubleshoot it? I am stuck using the Greek layout at login and my password is in latin characters - not in Greek.
[01:13] <capslock286> so I'm stuck using my guest account :-(
[01:22] <Daekdroom> capslock286, you should file a bug report Oo
[01:22] <capslock286> thanks, but is there a work-around, for the moment? :-)
[01:23] <Daekdroom> I have no knowledge on that area. Someone else might, maybe if you stick around a little more.
[04:19] <melvincv> Did the beta arrive?
[04:19] <melvincv> Or maybe I need to see the new schedule?
[04:21] <urfr332gO> http://release-blog.ubuntu.com/?p=191 you can't look on the web?
[05:03]  * melvincv wishes a Good Morning to all who woke up to March 1st... sigh.
[06:10] <c_smith> Nice move there, pangolin.
[06:11] <c_smith> Pleiades was starting to irritate me with his language and talk.....
[06:11] <pleiades> he is semiblack yeh so newports or kools
[06:12] <c_smith> pleiades, please, just speak while making sense........
[06:12] <pleiades> can someone please give me a pointer on this http://bryansalisbury.com/cve220/work.jpg?
[06:12] <c_smith> pleiades, just looking at that makes my head hurt......
[06:12] <pleiades> fine..
[06:12] <c_smith> Math is not my strong point.
[06:13] <c_smith> wish it was, though.
[06:13] <c_smith> that way I'd have both sides of what I excel in, Science
[06:15] <c_smith> how the heck did I mistake #ubuntu+1 for #ubuntu-offtopic???
[09:45] <jpmenil> hi
[09:45] <pleiades> others didn't give a fuck
[09:49] <jpmenil> i'm running ubuntu precise inside kvm guest
[09:49] <jpmenil> and can't find module virtio_net in linux-image-3.2.0-17
[10:04] <fairuz> Hi, I use local mirror (setup using apt-cacher) to upgrade a machine from oneiric to precise. I modified sources.list of this machine to point to the local mirror. My question is does after the upgrade, Ubuntu will do search and replace in the sources.list to replace oneiric by precise or will it create a new sources.list? Thus, the need to re-modify the sources.list to point to the local mirror after the upgrade. Thanks
[10:32] <ironhalik> so, wheres the beta? :P
[10:35] <precisepangolin> lubuntu 12.04 is okay for daily use?
[10:35] <Tm_T> I don't think such promise can be given before the release
[10:35] <precisepangolin> If I download it now can i update it to the stable version without reinstalling?
[10:36] <Tm_T> precisepangolin: yes
[10:36] <arand> !final
[10:36] <precisepangolin> thanks arand
[10:48] <sagaci> precisepangolin, I've been using it for quite a while, so don't rely on a daily install if that's the only machine you have, or if you can dual boot it with a stable release
[10:58] <glosoli> ironhalik: have you found beta cd somewhere in archives ?
[11:12] <hithur> Hey guys, is it a good move/idea to simply run dist upgrade to use unity 5 to resolve issues I'm currently facing in unity 4.28? My unity launcher icons are abnormally spaced apart from other launcher icons, and they each have a progress bar on it. Even dash. The problem seem to appear hours after I installed pidgin-libnotify.
[11:25] <hubx> hithur, can you make a screenshot. But upgrading to 12.04 at this stage will certainly break other things
[11:26] <hithur> http://i.imgur.com/19nWL.png
[11:26] <hithur> That's unity 4.28
[11:27] <hithur> Everything was perfect though :S
[11:32] <hithur> Eversince hours after installing  something to do with gir1.2-unity-4.0,          or pidgin-libnotify,           that's when these problems appeared.        If I logout, then log back in, my launcher icons no longer appears, it would have this invisible effect, and in that screenshot, you would guess the launcher icons are misplaced where it's impossible to click on/doanything about.
[11:33] <hithur> This affects all user account (so it's system wide, not just happening to one user)
[11:35] <branant> Any news on 12.04 beta?
[11:35] <rigved> branant: not released yet. in all probability, the topic of this channel will be changed to 'Beta 1 released' when 12.04 beta is actually released!
[11:35] <glosoli_> would like to hear too
[11:36] <glosoli_> if there is any ISO somewhere in the archives
[11:36] <branant> rigved: right!
[11:37] <rigved> glosoli_: the daily builds on cdimage.ubuntu.com should have the beta 1 iso already, if you are interested
[11:37] <branant> Thanks
[11:37] <glosoli_> rigved: hmm sure I'm wana do normal format and install
[11:41] <rigved> branant: you are welcome.
[11:42] <glosoli> is theere anyone who uses Gnome SHell ?
[11:49] <rigved> glosoli: i am currently using unity but i have gnome shell installed too. what problem are you having?
[11:55] <fhsales> hello people
[11:55] <fhsales> does anyone knows how to solve WIreless problems?
[11:56] <fhsales> anyone?
[11:58] <fhsales> does anyone know how to solve issues on wireless connections?
[12:01] <zzecool> Can someone confirm this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/943941
[12:03] <fhsales> people, is somebody out there?
[12:03] <ikonia> zzecool: I can do in 2 hours
[12:04] <zzecool> than you ikonia
[12:04] <zzecool> :)
[12:04] <zzecool> thank you
[12:04] <zzecool> *
[12:05] <zzecool> fhsales: hit it
[12:06] <fhsales> zzecool i am using ubuntu 12.04 because it recognizes my usb wireless adapter.But when i try to connect to my usual wireless connection it keeps asking the password but it does not connect.
[12:07] <zzecool> hmm i cant help you with this
[12:07] <locsmif> fhsales: try WAP
[12:07] <locsmif> err
[12:07] <locsmif> WPA
[12:07] <locsmif> 1, not 2
[12:08] <locsmif> Just a hunch, TIAS
[12:08] <ikonia> locsmif: why ?
[12:08] <ikonia> locsmif: why try random security setting
[12:08] <ikonia> 1.) know what the encyption on the network is 2.) set the network adaptor to use that
[12:08] <ikonia> not try random settings
[12:09] <zzecool> fhsales: actually try to remove security for testing and retry
[12:09] <zzecool> if it connect then you have narrowed your problem
[12:09] <locsmif> ikonia: because the symptoms of the problem remind me of similar symptoms I saw when the problem had this cause. It's a vague, trial and error type approach, and it's a long shot.
[12:09] <locsmif> Correlation does not mean causation, but it's worth a try to pin it down, imo
[12:09] <ikonia> locsmif: then think before suggesting it
[12:10] <ikonia> just offering random "try standing on your head" approach isn't useful
[12:10] <locsmif> ikonia: that's not the case here
[12:10] <locsmif> please be a bit more respectful
[12:10] <ikonia> locsmif: that IS the case here
[12:10] <fhsales> zzecool thanks.but now my brother has just kicked the module, shut down the computer and the monitor wont turn on anymore.
[12:10] <ikonia> locsmif: please offer useful suggestions rather than random
[12:10] <locsmif> I'm sorry, but it wasn't random
[12:11] <locsmif> But I'll stop participating in this discussion, thanks
[12:12] <zzecool> fhsales:  what module ? im confused
[12:12] <zzecool> monitor and computer got kicked?
[12:15] <glosoli> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/208/builds/12794/downloads
[12:15] <glosoli> woooolia
[12:16] <fhsales> zzecool my brother kicked the Power button of the no break. turned down the computer, and now when i try to turn it on, the monitor says out of range.
[12:17] <zzecool> i dont think we can help
[12:17] <zzecool> glosoli:  ?
[12:17] <ikonia> I'm not sure how that has anything to do with a network card ?
[12:18] <glosoli> zzecool: beta 1, doing full format, to fix some partitions and then switching to GS
[12:18] <zzecool> gs?
[12:18] <glosoli> shell
[12:18] <zzecool> what ??????
[12:18] <zzecool> i did get that
[12:19] <zzecool> beta 1 doing a full format to fix partitions  and  switch gs?
[12:19] <zzecool> doing format where when in what what partitions what gs switch ?
[12:19] <zzecool> ;/
[12:19] <glosoli> zzecool: yes I will format my computer now, will install beta1 , and then I will switch to GS :) probably
[12:19] <glosoli> Gnome SHell
[12:19] <zzecool> ahhhhh
[12:19] <zzecool> you are doing all this
[12:20] <zzecool> ..
[12:20] <glosoli> yes yes :DDD
[12:20] <zzecool> why gs ?
[12:20] <zzecool> i hate it
[12:20] <zzecool> lol
[12:20] <zzecool> Vertical workspaces ?
[12:20] <zzecool> give ME A BREAK
[12:20] <glosoli> zzecool: Now I released how much problems they caused by removing dodge.
[12:20] <glosoli> MAximized window close max min buttons
[12:20] <glosoli> doesn't seem to be in the righ tplace
[12:20] <glosoli> :)
[12:20] <rigved> gnome shell is good. i wish there was a way to get the notification system of GS to Unity!
[12:20] <glosoli> rigved: You use unity  ?
[12:20] <zzecool> rigved: the notification system indeed is a kick in the ass
[12:21] <rigved> glosoli: yes.
[12:21] <zzecool> its very nice
[12:21] <zzecool> :)
[12:21] <rigved> :)
[12:21] <zzecool> glosoli: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/943941
[12:21] <zzecool> youtube link soon
[12:21] <fhsales> hey zzecool how do i configure my wireless connection so it wont have a security code?
[12:22] <zzecool> fhsales: from your rooters web page
[12:22] <zzecool> router* ;p
[12:24] <zzecool> glosoli: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9wKUP4LvCo&feature=youtu.be
[12:27] <fhsales> zzecool how do i access my router page from ubuntu?
[12:28] <zzecool> fhsales: we cant support you here  sry
[12:32] <ikonia> fhsales: it's the same as any other OS - it's a web browser, firefox in Ubuntu is the same as firefox in Windows
[12:32] <ikonia> (for example)
[12:34] <fhsales1> hey zzecool, still there?
[12:34] <zzecool> yes
[12:35] <fhsales1> zzecooll i accessed from the other computer, turned off security, rebooted the Access point
[12:35] <fhsales1> zzecool restarted my ubuntu system.now it is trying to connect.
[12:36] <zzecool> and ?
[12:36] <zzecool> is it connected?
[12:36] <fhsales1> zzecool still trying...
[12:36] <zzecool> try #ubuntu channel
[12:37] <fhsales1> zzecool they say i cant use ubuntu channel because my version is off-topic there.
[12:37] <fhsales1> zzecool in the end it said disconnected, you are now offline.
[12:38] <fhsales1> zzecool so i think is is not security problem.
[12:38] <glosoli> hmm fuck my internet lagged
[12:38] <bazhang> glosoli, no cursing here
[12:38] <glosoli> bazhang: sorry won't happen again
[12:39] <glosoli> rigved: you are running precise with GS maybe ?
[12:39] <glosoli> bazhang: maybe you know if Ubuntu by default creates /boot partition ?
[12:39] <zzecool> glosoli: no it doesnt
[12:39] <bazhang> glosoli, not unless it's changed in 12.04
[12:40] <bazhang> nothing to prevent you from making one, however
[12:40] <glosoli> bazhang: is it worth ?
[12:42] <zzecool> glosoli: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CreateBootPartitionAfterInstall
[12:42] <glosoli> zzecool: I know I can do it, I just want format whole hdd, in btw, do you know if it's worth having /boot at seperate partition ?
[12:44] <zzecool> why have a different partition only for grub and kernel images
[12:44] <zzecool> i dont know
[12:44] <zzecool> maybe some security tricks
[12:44] <zzecool> i cant find any other
[12:45] <glosoli> heard someone yesterday talking that getting things from smaller partitions
[12:45] <glosoli> is way faster
[12:45] <zzecool> i think its is going to produce more problems than fix any
[12:45] <zzecool> read the firsti parts
[12:45] <zzecool> first*
[12:46] <zzecool> your bios may not even recognize the partition
[12:46] <zzecool> so you will not be able to boot
[12:46] <zzecool> i dont know
[12:46] <glosoli> zzecool: anyway, do you have seperate partition for home ?
[12:46] <zzecool> no but i should
[12:47] <zzecool> not on this machine
[12:47] <zzecool> on other i have it
[12:47] <glosoli> zzecool: /home stores just configs and your media files yes ?
[12:47] <ikonia> just to be clear 12.04 discussion is this channel, not #ubuntu
[12:47] <fhsales1> zzecool: so, ubuntu channel sent me back here:P
[12:47] <zzecool> here its impossible  its a hybric disk GUID + MBR    ( osx , ubuntu , window 7 )
[12:48] <zzecool> fhsales1: are you using precise?
[12:48] <zzecool> glosoli: yes
[12:48] <glosoli> ok going to format
[12:48] <glosoli> brb'
[12:48] <zzecool> you can move
[12:48] <zzecool> it without format
[12:48] <zzecool> .....
[12:48] <zzecool> too late
[12:48] <zzecool> lol
[12:49] <zzecool> fhsales1: what version of ubunut are you using ?
[12:49] <zzecool> ubuntu*
[12:49] <fhsales1> zzecool 12.04
[12:49] <fhsales1> zzecool: 12.04
[12:51] <fairuz> Hi, I use local mirror (setup using apt-cacher) to upgrade a machine from oneiric to precise. I modified sources.list of this machine to point to the local mirror. My question is does after the upgrade, will Ubuntu do search and replace in the sources.list to replace oneiric by precise or will it create a new sources.list? Thus, the need to re-modify the sources.list to point to the local mirror after the upgrade. Thanks
[12:51] <zzecool> fhsales1: thats why they send you here
[12:52] <zzecool> fhsales1: did you had this problem with oneiric ? or only with precise?
[12:53] <zzecool> fhsales1: do you have your system upgraded with the latest updates ?
[12:54] <fhsales1> zzecool: i had the 10.04 version, lucid linx.But it would not recognize my usb wireless.so i upgraded to version 12.04.now it recognizes my usb adapter, shows all available connection, but when i try to connect to it, it wont work.
[12:54] <fhsales1> zzecool:  i installed the version, but i dont think it has installed the updates.
[12:56] <zzecool> open the update manager press refresh and if update appear install them
[12:56] <zzecool> if it ask you for a partial update close it
[12:56] <zzecool> only do simples updates
[12:56] <fhsales1> zzecool: i will have to move my desktop to a place with ethernet. i ll be back in some minutes.
[12:56] <zzecool> if it doesnt work file a bug
[12:57] <zzecool> ill brb too
[13:02] <fhsales1> zzecool: hey, still there?
[13:02] <zzecool> yes
[13:03] <zzecool> best thing you can do is file a bug
[13:03] <fhsales1> zzecool:  how do i do that?
[13:03] <zzecool> wait
[13:03] <zzecool> you need to have a launcpad account
[13:03] <zzecool> and then
[13:03] <zzecool> and then follow this vid  : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=18nsScrDIa0
[13:04] <fhsales1> zzecool:  put my computer really near the access point, now it connects to the wireless network, but i am unable to transfer data.i cant enter a website.
[13:04] <zzecool> fhsales1: before filing a bug or anything you should be almost sure its a bug
[13:05] <zzecool> try your device to another machine
[13:05] <zzecool> maybe running windows
[13:05] <zzecool> make sure its the linux that has the problem and not your device
[13:05] <zzecool> that it
[13:05] <zzecool> good luck
[13:05] <fhsales1> zzecool:  yes, i am running on my laptop windows 7 and talking to you from it.the connection works. the problem is configuring it in ubuntu.
[13:05] <fhsales1> zzecool: thanks.
[13:06] <zzecool> ok
[13:06] <zzecool> so its a bug
[13:06] <zzecool> and the package that is affected is probably the "network-manager"
[13:06] <zzecool> good luck
[13:06] <zzecool> happy bug hunt
[13:06] <brendand> zzecool, probably not
[13:06] <brendand>  but it's okay to raise it there
[13:07] <brendand> fhsales1, i guess you're running precise?
 zzecool: i had the 10.04 version, lucid linx.But it would not recognize my usb wireless.so i upgraded to version 12.04.now it recognizes my usb adapter, shows all available connection, but when i try to connect to it, it wont work.
[13:09] <fhsales1> zzecool:  yes, precise pagolin
[13:10] <dudstep9> Hey, all. I was wondering on entering an entry for the 12.04 LTS countdown banner contest, but I can't seem to figure out how I can upload a submission to the submissions page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/PreciseCountdownBanner. Does anyone know how? Thank you in advance.
[13:12] <fhsales1> zzecool:  i will reboot my sistem wait a minute
[13:16] <dudstep9> Anyone?
[13:17] <BertoIacopoGatti> herro
[13:21] <dudstep9> Hey, all. I was wondering on entering an entry for the 12.04 LTS countdown banner contest, but I can't seem to figure out how I can upload a submission to the submissions page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/PreciseCountdownBanner. Does anyone know how? Thank you in advance.
[13:22] <hithur> Is dist-upgrade nothing more than simply changing and editing sources.list?
[13:23] <Daekdroom> hithur, no, it isn't.
[13:24] <Daekdroom> dist-upgrade isn't meant to touch sources.list at all.
[13:26] <hithur> Then what does dist-upgrade change to make it so it starts downloading next version stuff?
[13:28] <Daekdroom> hithur, dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade to the next version by itself.
[13:28] <Daekdroom> I mean, it probably will try (and break your system)  if you change the sources.list yourself.
[13:28] <fairuz> dudstep9: Can you just edit the wiki page and your submission there?
[13:29] <wcchandler> when will beta 1 release today?  (obvious answer being "when it's ready")
[13:29] <Daekdroom> It's meant to solve dependencies issues of package upgrades (by removing or installing new packages)
[13:30] <hithur> I only want to upgrade my unity, not "every  darn thing".
[13:30] <Daekdroom> Are you using 12.04?
[13:31] <hithur> No. 11.10.
[13:31] <dudstep9> fairuz: It says that I don't have the permission to do so. Any I idea on how I can proceed?
[13:33] <fairuz> dudstep9: Sorry no. It says to put your submission here (on the page) so I assume you have to edit the page.
[13:34] <dudstep9> fairuz: And that's what's puzzling me. It says to put the submissions on the page but I can't find a way on how to.
[13:35] <fairuz> dudstep9: When you say you don't have permission, is it when you are submitting your modification or when you click on the Edit button?
[13:38] <dudstep9> fairuz: interestingly, I don't find any edit button. I tried submitting by going to the drop down menu (labelled 'more actions') and selected load. That's what gave me the permission error. Sorry for being a wiki newbie.
[13:38] <god-zotac> anyone else have an issue in xfce or with any desktop opening thunar taking forever?  i have a ssd and everything except thunar opens snappy.. can't figure out why its opening so slow
[13:38] <hithur> So all I want is to get just necessary packages for unity 5.
[13:42] <fairuz> dudstep9: Log in using your LP account, and normally you will have a Edit menu
[13:52] <dudstep9> fairuz: Well, I've created an account but stiil no edit button.
[13:58] <fhsales> hallo beautiful people
[13:58] <fhsales> i need help with some connections issues.
[13:58] <fhsales> does anyone know how to configure wireless and wired connections?
[14:09] <munzir> Hi, my wifi disconnects frequently http://pastebin.ca/2123201
[14:12] <fhsales> hello people
[14:12] <fhsales> i am looking for some information about wired and wireless connections on ubuntu 12.04
[14:12] <fhsales> does anyone know how to configure WIred/wireless networks?
[14:12] <philinux> fhsales: I think it's the same as 11.10
[14:13] <fhsales> philinux: Ok, i was just saying my version because people on ubuntu said that i should seek advice within this channel.so...
[14:14] <philinux> fhsales: ah ok
[14:14] <fhsales> philinux: so, i finally got my wireless connection to works, but is seems way slower than my wired one.is there something i should do?
[14:15] <philinux> fhsales: depends how far away the router is and how many walls the signal has to go throough
[14:15] <philinux> fhsales: you could try a different channel number
[14:15] <fhsales> philinux: actually i am less than 2 feet my access pooint.
[14:15] <fhsales> philinux: which channel do you recommend?
[14:17] <philinux> fhsales: there is no recommended channel. My router has 13 channels. Most are default to automatic
[14:17] <philinux> fhsales: try starting at 1 and see
[14:17] <fhsales> philinux:  how do i change the channel on my router?
[14:18] <ikonia> fhsales: that is nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:18] <ikonia> fhsales: the router is covered by your documentation
[14:18] <philinux> fhsales: mine is from firefox web browser 192.168.1.1 you need to check with the router manual
[14:19] <fhsales> ikonia:  my question was about how wireless connections worked on ubuntu.
[14:19] <ikonia> fhsales: yes, then your question was "how do I change my routers config"
[14:19] <ikonia> fhsales: that is not an ubuntu issue and is covered by your routers documentation/support
[14:19] <fhsales> ikonia: ok.
[14:20] <philinux> fhsales: whats the router make and model
[14:38] <jStefan> Hi, if I want to be notified asap of when beta-1 comes out (so that I can start my torrent download), am I in the right place?
[14:40] <fhsales> ikonia:  are you there? i have read that ubuntu really has a problem on wireless connections.what do you think?
[14:40] <jpds> jStefan: No, subscribe to the ubuntu-devel-announce mailing list.
[14:40] <ikonia> fhsales: I don't think that's the case at all
[14:40] <ikonia> fhsales: no
[14:40] <jStefan> jpds, thanks
[14:41] <fhsales> ikonia: ok. when i connect with my wireless, i put the password, and it connects, but firefox is unable to open a page.what could be?
[14:41] <ikonia> fhsales: you've said that a few times,
[14:42] <ikonia> fhsales: I've told you I'm not going to support you
[14:42] <jpds> fhsales: No problems here, talk to your ISP?
[14:42] <jStefan> fhsales, did you check if it was a dns problem?
[14:43] <fhsales> jpds:  i will talk to them.but it does not seem to be their equipmente. when using windows 7 it works great.
[14:43] <fhsales> jStefan:  how do i check that?
[14:44] <jStefan> you could try visiting a site by it's ip, for example OpenDNS's status website: http://208.69.38.170/
[14:51] <philinux> fhsales: when on wired with you laptop using ubuntu does firefox work ok?
[14:53] <roasted> is the beta on the daily build site?
[14:54] <philinux> roasted: the iso's are labelled 1/3/12 so thats pretty  fresh
[14:54] <roasted> philinux: thought so, I just wasn't sure if that was "the" beta or not
[14:55] <philinux> roasted: beta is just a snapshot of the daily build so it's not anything other than a milestone
[14:55] <roasted> philinux: I understand. I just specifically wanted to wait until beta 1 to begin testing it on some of our hardware here.
[14:57] <philinux> roasted do you know about zsync
[14:57] <roasted> I don ot
[14:57] <roasted> do not*
[14:57] <UnknownFearNG> Hello all. I was wondering where I can install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and if I can still keep all my files?
[14:58] <philinux> roasted: ok so you cd to the directory where you've downloaded the iso then use this zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[14:59] <philinux> roasted: change it to suit your arch
[14:59] <philinux> roasted: IIRC you have to install zsync
[15:04] <doda1> hi, beta 1 is due today ?
[15:06] <bazhang> !schedule
[15:07] <doda1> yeah i saw it on the wiki :D
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> doda1: when the motd changes, the beta is available
[15:08] <doda1> mhm
[15:10] <branant> So are you guys following them on Google+ or on twitter, or you just keep refreshing the page until it shows up?
[15:10] <branant> My point is, how do you know when is it officially up?
[15:10] <philinux> branant: No I just got the daily build
[15:11] <branant> philinux, hehe ok! Is it labeled as beta anywhere?
[15:11] <philinux> branant: Thats the point it's just a label
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> branant: hang in here, you'll see the change. Could just wait til tomorrow. If you don't get it immediately it's not going to be unavailable.
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> you could even install the daily and upgrade seamlessly into the beta
[15:12] <fhsales> philinux:  yes, firefox works ok
[15:12] <fhsales> so
[15:12] <doda1> mind posting a link to the daily build ?
[15:12] <fhsales> philinux:  i see my adapter working, its blue LED is flashing all the time. but it wont enter a site.
[15:13] <philinux> doda1: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[15:14] <doda1> thanks
[15:14] <philinux> fhsales: So to recap win7 wireless is ok and ubuntu wired is ok
[15:14] <fhsales> philinux: yes, this is it.
[15:15] <fhsales> philinux:  i did a dmesg -c and it is finding firmware error.says i should download the latest BIOS
[15:15] <philinux> fhsales: I would delete the wireless entry and let is scan and set it up again
[15:15] <fhsales> philinux:  ok, how i do this?
[15:16] <branant> philinux, how often is that current built?
[15:16] <philinux> fhsales: right click on the networking icon choose edit connections. Wirless tab highlight your entry and delete it
[15:16] <branant> 12hrs, 24?
[15:17] <fhsales> philinux:  did this.now i reboot the system?
[15:17] <philinux> branant: well they call it the daily build but I haven't checked. I just use zsync to maintain my iso file
[15:19] <philinux> fhsales: hang on I'll just fire my laptop up
[15:19] <fhsales> philinux:  hanging :)
[15:20] <UnknownFearNG> Hello all. Is it possible to install 12.04 and still keep ally files, or should I wait till it's fully released and update it?
[15:21] <bazhang> UnknownFearNG, sure, either way works
[15:21] <TopGear> Hi. I've got a problem with Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop. In Windows, my battery runs for at least 3 hours, when not even fully charged and with Aero powered on. Ubuntu (12.04 and 11.10) runs for a maximum of 1h and 30m when the battery is fully charged. And 12.04 does have all the latest updates, same as 11.10.
[15:21] <philinux> fhsales: right I just deleted mine. On right clickinh the network icon I can see my ssid so you just click on it and enter your password to set it up again
[15:22] <bazhang> UnknownFearNG, always prudent to have backups on all systems, of course
[15:22] <UnknownFearNG> bazhag: How do I go about installing 12.04 and still keep all my programs?
[15:23] <bazhang> UnknownFearNG, this is an upgrade from 11.10?
[15:24] <UnknownFearNG> bazhag: yes, silly me lol. Should I install it via cd or from package manager?
[15:25] <fhsales> philinux:  did not work.
[15:25] <bazhang> UnknownFearNG, via the net : package manager; or alternate installer : your choice
[15:25] <UnknownFearNG> bazhag: sounds good, thank you for your help
[15:26] <fhsales> philinux:  look this pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/863581/  it says wlan not ready
[15:26] <bazhang> bazhag? :|
[15:27] <philinux> fhsales: I know its daft but you have accidentally knocked the wireless button on the laptop?
[15:28] <fhsales> philinux:  HAHAHA. NO no, it is a PC.not laptop:P
[15:28] <philinux> fhsales: and has the pc got a wireless dongle
[15:29] <fhsales> yes, it is a wireless adapter. Elsys EWU-2n35a
[15:31] <philinux> fhsales:  and the wired is unplugged
[15:31] <fhsales> philinux:  wired is plugged.should i unpliug it? i will try.
[15:32] <philinux> fhsales: yes wired should be unplugged if you want to use wireless
[16:12] <fhsales> philinux:  hey
[16:13] <fhsales> philinux:  it worked for 2 minutes.but now it has got back to same old bad functioning.
[16:13] <fhsales> philinux:  wireless wont work.wired working just fine.
[16:13] <philinux> fhsales: sound like your wireless dongle has a problem. I'm not a network guy
[16:14] <philinux> fhsales: you can check it from a terminal with iwlist scan
[16:15] <fhsales> philinux:  ok. i do not think it is the dongle, because it works just fine with windows 7. i have read in another place that usb wireless works bad with ubuntu. i am thinking about buying a TP-link 300 N PCI card.
[16:15] <philinux> fhsales: sorry I cant help. This might help you http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-troubleshoot-wireless-network-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[16:16] <fhsales> philinux:  you were of great help man
[16:16] <philinux> fhsales: and this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-network-troubleshooting-tips.html
[16:17] <fhsales> philinux: thanks a lot.
[16:17] <philinux> fhsales: google this and good luck > ubuntu trouble shoot networking
[16:44] <pace_t_zulu> anyone know when the beta 1 images are going to be posted?
[16:44] <glosoli> pace_t_zulu, they already are
[16:45] <pace_t_zulu> glosoli: could you share the link?
[16:45] <pace_t_zulu> the links at the technical overview are broken
[16:45] <glosoli> pace_t_zulu, wait will find it for you :)
[16:46] <glosoli> pace_t_zulu, for AMD64 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/208/builds/12794/downloads
[16:48] <glosoli> pace_t_zulu, is what what you wanted ?
[16:49] <glosoli> :)
[16:50] <FunnyLookinHat> They're still testing those ISOs I believe.
[16:50] <FunnyLookinHat> For the Beta 1 releas.e
[16:50] <glosoli> FunnyLookinHat: Dunno, using that one atm
[16:50] <FunnyLookinHat> *release
[16:50] <FunnyLookinHat> Right on
[16:50] <FunnyLookinHat> You can track the Beta 1 release stuff here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/208/builds
[16:51] <FunnyLookinHat> The new qa / iso tool is super awesome :)
[16:51] <glosoli> FunnyLookinHat: I am already running that one, seems to work :)
[16:51] <FunnyLookinHat> oooh cool :D
[16:52] <glosoli> I mean Beta 1
[16:54] <glosoli> FunnyLookinHat: Do you know any proper way  to get GIMP 2.8 in Precise ? :D
[16:54] <FunnyLookinHat> As far as I know - 2.8 isn't release.
[16:54] <FunnyLookinHat> 2.7.4 is the latest development release - which - when complete - will turn into 2.8
[16:55] <glosoli> FunnyLookinHat: Yeah< I understand that, but I want that 2.7.4
[16:55] <FunnyLookinHat> Oooh
[16:56] <philinux> pace_t_zulu: Just get it here. There are no updates to my install today. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[16:56] <FunnyLookinHat> glosoli, I'd try to find a PPA here ?  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=gimp
[16:56] <FunnyLookinHat> That would be your best bet.
[16:56] <TeTeT> anyone with info on the buildbot can shed some insight on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/933054
[16:57] <TeTeT> it seems to be a problem with multiarch and the bug reporter thinks that a broken gzip might cause the problem
[16:57] <glosoli> FunnyLookinHat: Already done that
[17:00] <philinux> glosoli this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1913103
[17:02] <glosoli> philinux: had a look at that one already
[17:03] <philinux> glosoli: ah ok you know as much as me then
[17:04] <pace_t_zulu> philinux: ty
[17:04] <glosoli> philinux: well yes :)
[17:04] <philinux> glosoli: like it says ion their website. "GIMP 2.7.4 is a snapshot of current development towards GIMP 2.8
[17:04] <glosoli> philinux: yes, but I like it being single window
[17:05] <philinux> glosoli: with the 2.7.4 you can switch it to single window
[17:05] <glosoli> philinux: I know :) But I can't get 2.7.4 from any repo in Precise ;D
[17:05] <glosoli> Why did I switch from Oneiric why :D
[17:07] <pace_t_zulu> philinux: i assume that is the same image that will be the beta
[17:07] <pace_t_zulu> and if not ... i can just zsync it
[17:07] <philinux> glosoli: ahh so the ppa wont work in precise. You jumped the gun early I run ubuntu on one drive and ubuntu+1 on another
[17:07] <glosoli> philinux: hehe completely to early.. using it as a main operating system driving me nuts
[17:07] <glosoli>  :DD
[17:10] <glosoli> philinux:  maybe you know what's wrong with Qt apps in Preicse that they  are having more bold fonts ?
[17:14] <philinux> glosoli: no soz not a clue
[17:21] <SilverFox> Is the +1 for 'development/unstable release' ?
[17:22] <glosoli> Yes
[17:22] <glosoli> topic says: Discussion and support for Precise Pangolin
[17:22] <SilverFox> i saw that, just wasn't sure what the '+1' was about in the channel name.  Took an educated guess.  :)
[17:23] <neglesaks> +1 is for "like"
[17:23] <glosoli> ;DD
[17:24] <SilverFox> Is precise mostly bugfixes from previous releases, or are there a lot of feature enhancements that may introduce new bugs?  In addition to feature enhancements, are there also much in the way of kernel and hardware support changes?
[17:24] <neglesaks> Any word on when beta 1 will be available for torrenting?
[17:24] <glosoli> SilverFox: it is
[17:24] <neglesaks> Precise is a LONG term support release
[17:24] <neglesaks> supposedly also adds better multi display handling
[17:24] <glosoli> SilverFox: a lot of things being changed :) For example they removed.. dodge window feature.
[17:25] <neglesaks> dodge window?
[17:25] <yofel> what did that do?
[17:25] <glosoli> yes
[17:25] <glosoli> you know when you maximize window ?
[17:25]  * yofel doesn't use unity, so not really
[17:25] <glosoli> it hides Unity Panel(somesay Dock)
[17:25] <iceroot> SilverFox: normally a LTS will not bring many new things compared to the version before, the aim of LTS is a stable system
[17:25] <yofel> ah, that
[17:25] <glosoli> but it stays perfectly shown when not maximized
[17:25] <SilverFox> I'm trying to discern whether to take a shot at it now, or stick with oneiric on my macbook pro.
[17:25] <glosoli> now they removed that ability
[17:26] <glosoli> SilverFox: Stick.
[17:26] <neglesaks> oh,a nd happy 1st of March by the way
[17:26] <glosoli> SilverFox: If it's your main machine.. I did mistake :)
[17:26] <SilverFox> iceroot: so, its more of a bugfix release.  Maybe I should try it, since there isn't much work being done on oneiric any longer.
[17:26] <neglesaks> ah, the panel hiding was a bother imo
[17:26] <iceroot> SilverFox: but remember its not stable atm
[17:26] <glosoli> neglesaks: But now Max min close buttons looks ugly if panel is always shown and window is maximized
[17:27] <yofel> SilverFox: it does have new software versions and a new kernel though, so there's still breakage potential.
[17:27] <neglesaks> pre-release software dshould NOT!!! be used on production/mission critical machinery, end of story.
[17:27] <iceroot> SilverFox: and the next release 12.10 will do some major changes
[17:27] <iceroot> maybe the biggest change in the last 10 years
[17:27] <SilverFox> iceroot: sure, but its mostly oneiric with some bugfixes, but not enough to be considered LTS stable yet?
[17:27] <yofel> for LTS just the really risky updates are kept out
[17:27] <SilverFox> wow...  thats quite a statement.
[17:27] <yofel> iceroot: do you remember if they want to give systemd a try? or just wayland?
[17:28] <iceroot> SilverFox: e.g. in a LTS release you will NOT change big things, e.g. no wayland
[17:28] <iceroot> yofel: 12.10 should go with wayland
[17:28] <iceroot> yofel: maybe not as default but i bet as a preview
[17:28] <glosoli> iceroot: So they are putting wayland at 12.10 ?
[17:28] <iceroot> and maybe btrfs as default...
[17:28] <yofel> yeah
[17:28] <iceroot> glosoli: yofel just a guess about wayland
[17:28] <Pici> Its not stable because this is still the beta, not the release.
[17:28] <yofel> uh, I wouldn't use btrfs as default
[17:28] <neglesaks> well, there are tradeoffs. im personally lookign forward ot seeing how it looks once b1 is out
[17:28] <yofel> but then again, I'll try it again for 12.10
[17:28] <glosoli> iceroot: I don't think they will put wayland and btrfs
[17:28] <glosoli> And I Hope they don't
[17:28] <glosoli> :)
[17:29] <neglesaks> what is wayland?
[17:29]  * yofel was waiting for lzo support in grub which didn't make it into 12.04
[17:29] <iceroot> neglesaks: the replacement for the x-server
[17:29] <yofel> neglesaks: replacement for X
[17:29] <neglesaks> oh my, that WILL be big indeed
[17:30] <neglesaks> Bring on the Wayland-Yutani jokes : Building better WIndows Servers
[17:30] <glosoli> it seems like they are always searching for smth new.. that's making ubuntu to look like not finished OS :)
[17:30] <philinux> SilverFox: Scroll down to get a taste of the changes. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860102
[17:30] <iceroot> glosoli: software is never finished
[17:31] <glosoli> iceroot:  yes, but what I mean I say is that should decide to stick to some technologie and develope it as good as possible instead of picking another and another
[17:31] <iceroot> glosoli: ubuntu is not developing x-server or gnome2 or something else
[17:31] <iceroot> glosoli: ubuntu is using the software from other projects
[17:31] <iceroot> mainly debian
[17:31] <glosoli> iceroot: they are modyfing things, it's a part of development
[17:32] <iceroot> and even debian is not writing the x-server
[17:33] <iceroot> and a replacement for the x-server is needed
[17:33] <iceroot> and a replacement for gnome2 is also needed
[17:34] <iceroot> because gnome2 is no longer supported y the gnome-project
[17:34] <neglesaks> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29
[17:34] <iceroot> so its not something bad that ubuntu (or other distros) are using newer software
[17:34] <glosoli> iceroot: I understand the gnome 2 replacement, because it's just version replacement not a whole project,  but whats for the X ?
[17:35] <baronos> If perform the installation "Alternate Ubuntu 12.04 command line" and  after then install "gnome-desktop-environment", then the boot after the grub menu, occured "kernel panic not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
[17:35] <iceroot> glosoli: the whole networking-system from x is depricated
[17:35] <glosoli> iceroot: Aa ok, now I got the point :) Anyway, I would like to ask, do you get screen corruptions while logging into desktop ?
[17:35] <glosoli> mainly happens for nvidia/ati proprietary drivers
[17:35] <iceroot> glosoli: no
[17:36] <glosoli> iceroot: I have seen LIM has been included in Precise via gsettings
[17:36] <philinux> glosoli: Yes with 8600gt
[17:36] <glosoli> philinux: Ah, nice to hear I am not the only one with few others :)
[17:37] <iceroot> glosoli: but i am not using gnome3/unity and no nvidia/amd
[17:37] <glosoli> iceroot: you are using gnome shell ?
[17:37] <iceroot> glosoli: lxde (lubuntu)
[17:37] <philinux> glosoli: it goes quickly though
[17:37] <glosoli> philinux: well it does, but It drives me nuts to know that it exists :DD
[17:38] <glosoli> iceroot: aaa :) I am thinking of installing in my old pc and parents home, Intel Pentium 4, 768 MB Ram, but I am not sure that Geforce 440MX or smth like that will handle it
[17:38] <glosoli> at parents home''
[17:39] <philinux> glosoli: not enough ram I reckon
[17:39] <glosoli> philinux: not enough RAM for LXDE :O ?
[17:39] <philinux> glosoli: soz lost track there
[17:40] <glosoli> philinux: np
[17:42] <iceroot> glosoli: my intel 8mb card is handling lubuntu perfectly
[17:42] <yofel> glosoli: lxde should work fine there, worst case nouveau won't support 3d on the 440MX - not that lxde needs that
[17:42] <glosoli> iceroot: HMm, then looking forward to trying it out on 11 years old computer,
[17:43] <iceroot> glosoli: running it on 630mhz, 512mb ram, 4gb/, intel 8mb card
[17:43] <glosoli> hah ;D that's a really solid DE
[17:43] <glosoli> then
[17:44] <iceroot> its all i need, so strange 200watt gpus, no strange 8 core 150watt cpus, no useless 8gb ram and so on :)
[17:45] <iceroot> i guess its also called "watt" in english
[17:45] <ironhalik> Well, yeah, 200W GPUs are pretty much useless on linux ;>
[17:45] <glosoli> ironhalik: I am having here ATI Mobility Radeon 5730M 1GB
[17:45] <glosoli> but for laptop
[17:46] <ironhalik> its not 200W ;>
[17:47] <glosoli> ironhalik: you also see these ugly switchers and how tab looks in system settings ?
[17:47] <glosoli> for precise
[17:47] <ironhalik> Nope, theyre ok for me
[17:48] <glosoli> ironhalik: would you mind giving Screenshot how it looks for you ?
[17:48] <ironhalik> sec
[17:51] <ironhalik> http://i43.tinypic.com/24mt7xe.png
[17:52] <glosoli> ironhalik: ah, so just difference of tastes.. i hate these new ones, it looks cheap
[17:53] <ironhalik> hah
[17:53] <glosoli> http://goo.gl/UvDCU << looks far more reasonable
[17:54] <glosoli> ironhalik: do you know any icon set which is compatible with PRecise ?
[17:54] <ironhalik> Havnt really looked for any
[17:54] <glosoli> Using default ones >
[17:54] <glosoli>  ?
[17:55] <ironhalik> yeah
[18:07] <glosoli> anyone knows good alternative to THunderbird and Evolution ?
[18:10] <LDB> Hi guys, how do i install 12.04 LTS without X?
[18:11] <pangolin> use the server iso
[18:11] <LDB> i downloaded this one: precise-alternate-amd64.iso
[18:11] <pangolin> wrong one
[18:11] <LDB> where is the server one?
[18:12] <LDB> i am thinking of the Beta
[18:12] <pangolin> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/alpha-2/precise-server-amd64.iso  I don't think beta has been released yet
[18:13] <LDB> pangolin: Version: ubuntu-12.04-beta-1 Expected: 18 hours ago
[18:13] <LDB> is it delayed?
[18:13] <pangolin> I haven't seen an announcement made for it yet.
[18:14] <pangolin> until there is an announcement made for the release or that it has been delayed, nothing is official.
[18:15] <LDB> ok i'll wait 2 hours, if it hasnt been released yet i install the alpha 2 :)
[18:15] <pangolin> LDB: you can install the alpha-2 and then regular upgrade will take you to beta
[18:15] <LDB> pangolin: thanks
[18:15] <LDB> pangolin: thinking of going from debian stable to ubuntu 12.04.. debian stable is too old now
[18:15] <philinux> LDB: the desktop image is dated today but the server is dated 29th feb. Probably not many updates between that and the beta anyway
[18:16] <philinux> LDB: My desktop install had only a couple of updates today.
[18:16] <LDB> philinux: ok i will use the alpha and then update :)
[18:17] <philinux> LDB: best way as the beat is only a snapshot anyway. Only a label really
[18:21] <LDB> the only thing that will change between now and the final release are the packages?
[18:26] <wtfdoggie22> is the new beta coming out tonight?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> wtfdoggie22: soon
[18:27] <wtfdoggie22> ah
[18:27] <wtfdoggie22> nice :-)
[18:30] <philinux> wtfdoggie22: are you running precise on a test machine
[18:30] <wtfdoggie22> i plan on doing so
[18:30] <wtfdoggie22> starting with the beta
[18:31] <philinux> wtfdoggie22: like we've been saying the daily build is good enough it's dated today and I've had no updates
[18:32] <glosoli> philinux: wana hear funny story  ?
[18:32] <glosoli> about skype
[18:32] <MrChrisDruif> Only thing I am disgusted about is the recent keyboard combo change
[18:32] <MrChrisDruif> glosoli; always
[18:33] <wtfdoggie22> ok then, i'll probably install tonight
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> MrChrisDruif: what combo change?
[18:33] <LDB> when is ubuntu getting apache 2.4?
[18:34] <glosoli> Ok, here you go. Made some post in forum, not answer from skype support, even created a thread was about 30 views and no answer. Somehow managed to asks the question if skype is going to be developed or not (because so long with no releases)  in Skype for Linux blog. I got an answer to check upper upper which states that it will be, and the comment was June of 2011 :))))
[18:34] <MrChrisDruif> ActionParsnip; the one for changing virtual desktops
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> MrChrisDruif: as part of compiz you mean?
[18:34] <MrChrisDruif> From Ctrl+Alt+<arrow> to Super+Shift+<arrow>
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> MrChrisDruif: can't it be changed in ccsm?
[18:35] <MrChrisDruif> I read in the design mailing-list that it can, but I didn't have ccsm installed
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> MrChrisDruif: then you know what to do, problem solved..
[18:36] <MrChrisDruif> ActionParsnip; Yeah, I know what I should do
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> MrChrisDruif: so why the disgust?
[18:36] <MrChrisDruif> But it's more that the default/old combo shouldn't have been changed in the first place if you ask me
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> MrChrisDruif: easily changed though.
[18:37] <MrChrisDruif> Because that change also affects GNOME Shell
[18:37] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know what the idea behind the change is in the first place...
[18:38] <MrChrisDruif> What ain't broke, don't fix it?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> MrChrisDruif: no idea, i don't use multiple workspaces or gnome shell
[18:39] <MrChrisDruif> That's the whole idea: "normal/regular" users don't even use multiple desktops to begin with, so why change it for those that do?
[18:39] <philinux> MrChrisDruif: I just use the mouse to click the switcher icon.
[18:40] <MrChrisDruif> Because those that do *KNOW* that it's very easy to switch to them with keyboard combo, I thought my installation was broken when I got the update on my machine
[18:40] <MrChrisDruif> I was lucky that I'm subscribed to the design mailing-list, otherwise I didn't know about the change
[18:41] <neglesaks> SKype is windows and mac only, essentially... just use ekiga instead
[18:41] <MrChrisDruif> And besides, I don't want to install ccsm just to restore a setting
[18:41] <MrChrisDruif> neglesaks; ever tried Ekiga? I didn't get it to work properly like skype
[18:41] <glosoli> neglesaks: easy to say :)
[18:41] <philinux> neglesaks: skype works great on my acer 1410
[18:42] <glosoli> neglesaks: would you mind convincing my 130 contacts   to use Ekiga ?
[18:42] <synthetix> hi
[18:42] <synthetix> pangolin,
[18:42] <pangolin> synthetix: do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:42] <synthetix> ok
[18:43] <synthetix> done
[18:43] <synthetix> now can i try do-release-upgrade -d
[18:43] <pangolin> everything is up to date?
[18:43] <synthetix> it was update smth
[18:43] <pangolin> synthetix: ok now try the -d command
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> synthetix: also try disabling the 3rd party PPAs you may have added
[18:44] <neglesaks> see, thats the problem - if nobody says it, nobody will change
[18:44] <neglesaks> personally, skype is nothign ill install on an open software machien ever, its closed software, closed protocol, and suspected of assisting "authorities" in wiretapping...
[18:44] <neglesaks> i woin stand for that
[18:45] <synthetix> same thing
[18:46] <synthetix> it disabled all 3rd part while do upgrade
[18:46] <pangolin> synthetix: what was that pastebin?
 Hi all... Was wondering if I could invite ubottu to #linuxmce
 www.linuxmce.org open source home automation platform built on kubuntu
[18:47] <pangolin> oops sorry
[18:47] <EvilResistance> pangolin, lolfail?
[18:48] <pangolin> yeah ctrl-c apparently failed on me or I failed it
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> synthetix: try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/863907/
[18:48] <pangolin> good thing it wasn't anything sensitive
[18:51] <pangolin> I'm wondering if maybe it is time for me to try upgrading to +1
[18:55] <glosoli> pangolin: it is
[18:55] <glosoli> ;D
[18:55] <synthetix> ActionParsnip, i did
[18:55] <synthetix> same shit
[18:56] <synthetix> IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
[18:56] <synthetix> authenticate 'precise.tar.gz' against 'precise.tar.gz.gpg'
[18:56] <synthetix> extracting 'precise.tar.gz'
[18:56] <synthetix> WARNING: Failed to read mirror file
[18:56] <neglesaks> nothign new on the cdimage server yet
[18:58] <synthetix> ActionParsnip, pangolin any ideas guys ?
[18:58] <pangolin> none, sorry.
[18:58] <edgy> hi
[18:59] <edgy> ~$ display
[18:59] <edgy> display display: Unable to load font (-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1) [Resource temporarily unavailable].
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> synthetix: you could grab the alternate ISO, mount it and upgrade that way in an offline stylee
[19:00] <philinux> synthetix: what does update-manager -d spit out in a terminal
[19:00] <edgy> is it only me?
[19:00] <synthetix> now i'm trying sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[19:00] <synthetix> one mmnt pls
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> edgy: if you reinstall the package providing that, does it sort it
[19:02] <edgy> ActionParsnip: does this mean you don't get the same error?
[19:03] <h31> Hello. When beta1 will be released?
[19:03] <branant> synthetix, I usually do apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:03] <pangolin> upgrade to +1 in progress
[19:03] <pangolin> h31: soon as it is ready.
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> edgy: no, not had a font error in my life
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> h31: soon, if you install the daily and upgrade tomorrow, you will have the beta
[19:03] <branant> h31, according to omgubuntu.co.uk it has been released!
[19:04] <pangolin> well they are the official source of everything....
[19:04] <h31> branant: there are no .iso images yet.
[19:04] <branant> well, since today they have entered the beta stage
[19:04] <log> Yes, but that doesn't mean that they have released it yet.
[19:04] <branant> they will not be called beta, but that is what they are ;)
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> just install a precise ISO, then get upgraded and you will get the beta packages when they are on the repos...
[19:05] <branant> I am pretty sure there will be no major changes in tomorrow's release
[19:06] <baronos> If perform the installation "Alternate Ubuntu 12.04 command line" and  after then install "gnome-desktop-environment", then the boot after the grub menu, occured "kernel panic not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
[19:06] <branant> ActionParsnip, True that!
[19:06] <branant> That's the only way to be sure you running the latest and greatest ;)
[19:09] <philinux> Development update. This was out a while ago. http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/03/01/ubuntu-12-04-development-update-16/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ubuntu-12-04-development-update-16
[19:09] <branant> The entire day I was waiting for the official announcement of a beta 1 release
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> branant: why?
[19:10] <philinux> branant: it's only a transition. The beat is just todays daily build
[19:10] <branant> In the meantime I had a few beers so don't blame me, but I think this is as much as we are going to get
[19:10] <branant> So lets start downloading these daily builds and installing
[19:11] <LDB> if i install the current 12.04, do i need to re-install when the final comes?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> branant: I haveit already. I had the alpha 1 installed and have upgraded. The difference between will be small
[19:11] <branant> I also need to compile a few libs for my Galaxy Nexus :-|)
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> LDB: no, you will upgrade seamlessly to the rc
[19:11] <philinux> LDB: No just keep up to date
[19:11] <LDB> perfect
[19:12] <branant> ActionParsnip, that worries me a whole lot
[19:12] <LDB> i am impressed with the boot speed, about 6 seconds cold boot
[19:12] <philinux> LDB: people only usually reinstall if they've messed up the system tweaked this and that etc
[19:12] <branant> a month ago when i tried alpha not even chrome worked well
[19:12] <branant> and that's something I need all the time!
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> branant: clean install or upgrade?
[19:13] <LDB> does onyone know if apache 2.4 will be in the final?
[19:13] <branant> In the meantime I have recompiled the newest kernel for my Slackware-current
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> !info apache
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> !find apache
[19:13] <nhaines> branant: if it makes you feel better, reinstall after April 26th.
[19:13] <philinux> LDB: I doubt it as we've passed feature freeze
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> !info apache2
[19:14] <branant> ActionParsnip, It was an upgrade.
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> LDB: seems to be 2.2.22
[19:14] <LDB> too bad, we need that
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> branant: possibly why
[19:14] <branant> Was there anything changed?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> LDB: PPAs exist
[19:14] <LDB> PPA? you mean another package mirror?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[19:15] <philinux> gotta go bye
[19:15] <branant> So in that case, can someone change the topic to released! please ;)
[19:15] <branant> I mean Beta 1 released
[19:15] <branant> what are we waiting for?
[19:15] <pangolin> the official announcement
[19:16] <LDB> :)
[19:16] <pangolin> OMGUbuntu is not our source
[19:16] <branant> pangolin, From who?
[19:16] <pangolin> from the release manager at Canonical
[19:16] <glosoli> guys
[19:16] <glosoli> just download current daily build
[19:16] <glosoli> there has been no updates for two days
[19:17] <glosoli> I am already using beta 1 image
[19:17] <glosoli> :)))
[19:17] <branant> So how do we know when it happens? He will post on G+, twitter...
[19:17] <glosoli> Found it in archives
[19:17] <branant> pangolin, who is the gentleman?
[19:18] <branant> Or the website?
[19:19] <pangolin> ubuntu-annouce@lists.ubuntu.com
[19:20] <branant> pangolin, very well then!
[19:20] <nhaines> Actually, the daily build has changed both yesterday and today.
[19:21] <nhaines> I use rsync to update it daily.  I keep an Ubuntu archive on my network drive here at work for myself and for colleagues.
[19:21] <glosoli> nhaines: what have changed ?
[19:21] <glosoli> nhaines: watching updates every hour :)
[19:22] <nhaines> glosoli: VLC and some other libraries from yesterday to today.  Donno about the day before.  The point is, the disc images were different and I downloaded 115MB to update each image.
[19:22] <branant> Ubuntu really needs a changelog!
[19:23] <glosoli> nhaines: VLC is not the distribution package
[19:23] <branant> Hourly changelog with an RSS feed
[19:23] <glosoli> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/208/builds/12794/downloads
[19:23] <glosoli> anyway I am already running this one :)
[19:24] <branant> I will be happy to throw a few lines of code and create it as long as someone will update it on regular basis
[19:24] <nhaines> It doesn't matter what you're running.  The daily build has changed significantly every day this week.
[19:25] <branant> glosoli, ok but I mean for civilians too :-)
[19:25] <nhaines> the only reason I'm waiting for the beta is because I want to test the installer and they need to have a baseline for that.
[19:25] <branant> They even find IRC scary, let alone the RSS
[19:26] <glosoli> nhaines: installer hadn't changed or had it  ? just some bugs there still in the link I tested
[19:26] <branant> Unlike us who spent years in BitchX under DALnet ;)
[19:28] <glosoli> branant: BitchX and what's DALnet ?
[19:28] <htorque> hi all! i'm seeing 55 'dbus' processes spawned by cupsd (cmd '/usr/lib/cups/notifier/dbus dbus://') - is this normal?
[19:29] <branant> glosoli, that's a server we used back in the day when we played our music with MPC -- X-free desktop ;)
[19:30] <glosoli> branant: Ah I am not that old :DD
[19:30] <glosoli> probably
[19:31] <branant> Hehe I used to laugh at that same comment just a few years back
[19:31] <branant> And now I am here telling the stories of the old days :)
[19:32] <branant> glosoli, your time will come so soon, that you will be surprised when kids ask you what's IRC :D
[19:33] <glosoli> Or will be telling stories how difficult in was to use Ubuntu some time ago while it will be super easy in the future
[19:33] <glosoli> ;D
[19:33] <branant> Let's just hope so!
[19:35] <branant> glosoli, you would laugh if I tell you just a few years back I run outside the house in my boxers celebrating installation of my sound blaster under slackware 4.1
[19:35] <glosoli> branant: hahaha :DDD
[19:35] <neglesaks> sounds glorious!!!
[19:35] <branant> glosoli, video card was still miles away!
[19:35] <branant> :)
[19:36] <branant> And then win-modems came along when many of my mates gave up or committed suicide!
[19:36] <branant> Thank God i had a US Robotics one :D
[19:37] <glosoli> branant: As My parent's hadn't have money enough, and my country in the selling system in my country was poor, I got my first personal pc in about 1999 or 2000
[19:37] <glosoli> ;D
[19:37] <neglesaks> oh my... winmodem is a word i havent herd uttered in years
[19:37] <neglesaks> but it was rarely in a good context
[19:38] <branant> glosoli, these were the bea
[19:38] <branant> glosoli, these were the best years
[19:39] <glosoli> Remember Intel P4 being as a miracle
[19:39] <glosoli> :D
[19:39] <neglesaks> Pentium 4? Hyperthreading? :p
[19:39] <glosoli> No, that one without
[19:39] <glosoli> ;D
[19:40] <branant> neglesaks, it makes me sound ancient but I am only in my 30s
[19:40] <glosoli> I am not sure if that 2000th model had HT
[19:40] <neglesaks> ditto ;)
[19:40] <neglesaks> no, it didnt. it came later.
[19:40] <branant> Which makes me a dinosaur in computer years!
[19:40] <neglesaks> pentium 4's initial advantage was.... hm..... its newer SSE implementations and the quadpumped bus system
[19:40]  * glosoli will be 21 at the end of the year
[19:40] <glosoli> ;D
[19:40] <neglesaks> youngster!
[19:41]  * neglesaks scratches beard
[19:41] <branant> My first was Spectrum after which came Pentium I - 166 MHz with 16MB RAM
[19:41] <branant> The rest is history ;-)
[19:41] <glosoli> lol, i was 10 years old when started reinstalling computers it felt so smart that days ;DD not it sounds idiotic :DD
[19:42] <neglesaks> AMIGA 500
[19:42] <glosoli> Have heard about AMIGA, never tryed though
[19:42] <neglesaks> oooh, what youve missed.
[19:43] <tuxguy> hi folks..am running 12.04 pp alpha 2 on a 64 bit dell laptop..trackpad does not work :(
[19:43] <tuxguy> any clue ?
[19:43] <tuxguy> am running latest stable kernel 3.0.2-17
[19:44] <glosoli> neglesaks: just known it was really perspective OS, but it didn't make it, Or Am I misinformed ?
[19:45] <tuxguy> anybody else having issued with laptop trackpad not working on 12.04 alpha2 ?
[19:45] <glosoli> tuxguy: not me
[19:46] <tuxguy> @glosoli am a linux n00b, any advice/suggestions ?
[19:46] <tuxguy> what laptop do u use ? mine is a dell inspiron 14
[19:46] <glosoli> tuxguy: Dell's work quite fine with Ubuntu, my Asus is a mess
[19:46] <glosoli> tuxguy: Have you tryed pressing that FN hotkey
[19:46] <glosoli> to turn on ?
[19:47] <tuxguy> Just fn or fn+something ?
[19:47] <glosoli> tuxguy: there is a hotkey for you dell for turning on touchpad and off
[19:47] <glosoli> tuxguy: problamy somewhere near F7
[19:47] <tuxguy> in windows its actually tapping the top right corner of the touchpad to toggle touchpad on & off
[19:48] <Dmole> I am trying to get a script to run on user login nither ~/.bash_login nor ~/.bash_profile seem to get called. help?
[19:48] <glosoli> tuxguy: use pastebin.ubuntu.com and paste be output of a command in terminal: xinput list
[19:48] <tuxguy> hey thanks...there is actually a key too..i had completely forgotten abt it...just hit it once..it works now
[19:49] <tuxguy> thanks a ton @glosoli
[19:49] <tuxguy> n00b mistake
[19:49] <glosoli> tuxguy: haha, no prob :) could have happened for everyone
[19:49] <GeorgeJ> Hello. How does one disable 3d effects on Ubuntu 12.04?
[19:50] <tuxguy> @glosoli: are u running 12.04 alpha too too ?
[19:50] <urfr332gO> GeorgeJ, there is a 2d unity.
[19:50] <glosoli> tuxguy: sure I am :)
[19:50] <tuxguy> alpha2 *
[19:50] <GeorgeJ> urfr332gO: How do I boot into it by default?
[19:50] <ATP> hello , any ETA on the beta upload?
[19:50] <urfr332gO> GeorgeJ, choose it at login and it will default there from there on.
[19:51] <GeorgeJ> urfr332gO: Thank you.
[19:51] <urfr332gO> GeorgeJ, no problem.
[19:53] <tuxguy> @glosoi..another q.
[19:54] <tuxguy> by default mod4(windows key) +a brings all the open windows
[19:54] <tuxguy> & then u can choose
[19:54] <tuxguy> it's called the 'expose' feature
[19:54] <glosoli> yes
[19:54] <tuxguy> it works sometimes & sometimes not
[19:54] <glosoli> tuxguy:  maybe it's called Expo and Windows key + S ?
[19:55] <tuxguy> yaa...right...Expo
[19:55] <glosoli> tuxguy: all open windows are brought up by windows key + W
[19:55] <tuxguy> but in keyboard...i have set mod4+s as shortcut for search
[19:55] <glosoli> hmm  so change hotkey ?
[19:56] <tuxguy> so...i remember i set it in the 'keyboard' utility
[19:56] <tuxguy> then i installed compiz config settings manager
[19:56] <glosoli> tuxguy: and  ?
[19:57] <edgy> Hi, I want to install warsow but I couldn't find it in precise!
[19:57] <tuxguy> mod4+w does not work anymore & i cant find where to set the shortcut again
[19:57] <glosoli> edgy: it isn't :) download from website do chmod 755 for the bin file and ./warsav
[19:57] <glosoli> I am not sure if spelled name of game correctly
[19:58] <tuxguy> there is place windows in ccsm -> win mgmt -> place windows
[19:58] <glosoli> tuxguy: Scale addon for Showing all windowses,
[19:58] <edgy> glosoli: but installing a bin file is a mess since you lose all the features of package management, isn't there a ppa?
[19:58] <glosoli> tuxguy: Scale Addon, Bindings tab
[19:58] <glosoli> edgy: I don't think, wait.
[19:58] <glosoli> crizzy: are you here ?
[19:59] <tuxguy> found it, but wont let me enter windows key + w
[19:59] <tuxguy> dont know why ?
[19:59] <edgy> glosoli: and what about openarena? I also want to install 0.8.8
[19:59] <glosoli> edgy: Sorry I have no ideas of that game, only tryed Warsow
[19:59] <edgy> glosoli: being LTS doesn't mean gamers shouldn't be treated kindly ;)
[20:00] <glosoli> edgy: I don't think it does, being LTS means making System stable as much as possible
[20:00] <glosoli> edgy: BUt sure you should be treated kindly :) wait a bit
[20:00] <crizzy> sup
[20:00] <edgy> glosoli: I now found this: http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/11.10/?q=warsow
[20:01] <edgy> glosoli: which is for ubuntu-1
[20:01] <glosoli> crizzy: edgy is asking if there is any ppa for Warsow
[20:01] <crizzy> playdebs
[20:01] <edgy> crizzy: and openarena 0.8.8, too
[20:01] <yofel> openarena 0.8.8 is in debian experimental, someone could probably just rebuild that
[20:02] <edgy> crizzy: playdeb has 11.10 version for warsow, should i install it?
[20:02] <crizzy> ye
[20:02] <crizzy> should work
[20:02] <dahaxxer> news bout the lubuntu precise beta?
[20:02] <glosoli> dahaxxer: no
[20:02] <crizzy> only package wsw needs beyond default install is libcurl
[20:03] <glosoli> tuxguy: sorry,how you try to set that ?
[20:03] <glosoli> tuxguy: and do you get any message ?
[20:03] <tuxguy> in the bindings tab
[20:03] <tuxguy> initiate window picker is win+a
[20:03] <glosoli> tuxguy: you wan't for all windows, don
[20:03] <glosoli> don't you ?
[20:04] <tuxguy> i put win+w as initiate win picker for all windows
[20:04] <neglesaks> pardon me beign away... been lookign for some odl sci fi books
[20:05] <neglesaks> nothign new on cdimage.ubuntu
[20:05] <tuxguy> wbut when i press win
[20:05] <tuxguy> the left bar comes up before i can press a
[20:05] <tuxguy> & nothing happens when i press a or w
[20:05] <glosoli> tuxguy: you mean dash ?
[20:05] <glosoli> tuxguy: unity dash with applications lenses comes up
[20:05] <glosoli> ?
[20:05] <tuxguy> not the dash
[20:05] <tuxguy> the left bar with all the app icons
[20:05] <glosoli> tuxguy: it's called Dash
[20:06] <tuxguy> & if u keep win pressed a l longerittle
[20:06] <tuxguy> & if u keep win pressed a little  longer , numbers on the app icons
[20:06] <tuxguy> it slides from the left of ur screen
[20:06] <glosoli> tuxguy: well yes, that's what it should do, that I don't assign windows key with anything :)
[20:06] <tuxguy> & dash is at the top
[20:06] <tuxguy> what do u use for place all windows
[20:07] <glosoli> tuxguy: try some other hotkeys combinations :)
[20:07] <tuxguy> ctrl & alt have some meaning in most apps
[20:08] <pangolin> upgrade complete.
[20:08] <glosoli> tuxguy: so does Windows key :(
[20:09] <tuxguy> i put alt+a & exited out of ccsm
[20:09] <tuxguy> still does not work
[20:09] <tuxguy> do i need to do a unity --reset ?
[20:09] <tuxguy> no, right?
[20:10] <glosoli> no you shouldn't need
[20:10] <glosoli> unity reset is to reset settings
[20:10] <glosoli> so don't
[20:10] <glosoli> tuxguy: hmm dunno, try log in log out, maybe something is disturbing it
[20:11] <tuxguy> @glosoli : ok cool, thanks for all ur help
[20:12] <glosoli> tuxguy: no probs, there are a lot of people willing to help everyday :)
[20:13] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone else having issues getting today's daily to install w/ custom partitioning?  Mine keeps crashing - could be due to me having windows installed on the drive as well?
[20:13] <glosoli> FunnyLookinHat: mine keeped do, but then it loaded in live cd mode
[20:13] <glosoli> and everything was fine when I pressed install application
[20:14] <tuxguy> bfn, thank u guys
[20:14] <urfr332gO> FunnyLookinHat, how many primary partitions?
[20:15] <FunnyLookinHat> urfr332gO, 4
[20:16] <FunnyLookinHat> One for "/" , One swap space, and two for windoze.
[20:16] <urfr332gO> FunnyLookinHat, that is the limit on a single HD
[20:16] <urfr332gO> ah I see put the linux in a extended
[20:17] <glosoli> it keeps crashing
[20:17] <urfr332gO> !windoze
[20:17] <glosoli> if it will be for partitions
[20:17] <glosoli> it will don't let to do anything
[20:17] <glosoli> :)
[20:17] <glosoli> FunnyLookinHat: You keep getting errors that are trying to be reported yes ?
[20:18] <FunnyLookinHat> glosoli, Yeah
[20:18] <glosoli> FunnyLookinHat: Same problem was for be, did you pick to Install Ubuntu instead of give a try with livecd yes ?
[20:19] <FunnyLookinHat> I tried both - yeah.
[20:19] <FunnyLookinHat> Very strange.
[20:19] <virunga> Hi, is there the torrent of the image of Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:19] <FunnyLookinHat> I was trying to change the partition to / and format
[20:19] <glosoli> FunnyLookinHat: Was the same with both ?
[20:19] <FunnyLookinHat> but if I delete it - and then re-add it from the free space, all seems ok
[20:19] <FunnyLookinHat> weird - yeah - now it's working.
[20:19] <glosoli> FunnyLookinHat: Try making Up partitions with Gparted and then run that installation app
[20:20] <FunnyLookinHat> Yeah - it's working now.
[20:20] <FunnyLookinHat> Thanks glosoli
[20:20] <glosoli> FunnyLookinHat: no probs
[20:20] <neglesaks> ok, stuff is happening. please only use the torrents for now.... (and mmind that until the release announcement, the releases are not really there). http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/beta-1/
[20:22] <glosoli> neglesaks: if there was any changes for the OS itself I will get it by updatesyes ?
[20:22] <neglesaks> if you already are runnign alpha 2, you should have it by means of updates already, yes
[20:23] <neglesaks> so then you shoudl only get the torrent to help seed it
[20:23] <glosoli> neglesaks: I installed today with Beta 1 Testing ISO
[20:24] <neglesaks> how does it run then?
[20:25] <virunga> i can't find the torrent of Ubuntu 12.04, is it release as torrent?
[20:26] <glosoli> neglesaks: properly, just some bugs with partitioning, but solved up when loaded as Live CD :)
[20:26] <neglesaks> rty releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[20:26] <neglesaks> try*
[20:26] <neglesaks> the CD images are there. cdimage.ubuntu.com contains dvd images
[20:26] <fhsales> people does anyone know how to fix Realtek 8188SU problems on ubuntu?
[20:28] <glosoli> fhsales: what are the problems ?
[20:29] <fhsales> glosoli: At first, i instaled the lucid linx version on my pc and the usb adapter would not work.after many tries, i instaled the ubuntu version 12.04 and it recognized the adapter. But even though sometimes i am able to conect, i am unable to open a page on internet.
[20:30] <virunga> neglesaks, thanks, after the installation of the beta 1 can i upgrade to beta 2?
[20:30] <fhsales> glosoli: the adapter is working, i tested it on another PC. and on ubuntu, the blue led keeps flashing, meaning there is data transfer. but i cant open a single page. i am asking because many people seems to have problems with this particular adapter.
[20:31] <glosoli> virunga: you can to beta2 to rc and to full :)
[20:31] <glosoli> fhsales: tryed pinging some pages ?
[20:31] <urfr332gO> virunga, if you stay udated you will be there.
[20:31] <fhsales> glosoli:  no, how do i do that?
[20:32] <glosoli> fhsales: open terminal and type: ping google.com
[20:32] <virunga> thank you
[20:33] <fhsales> glosoli: i done that with my wired connection, a lot of numbers is appearing.
[20:33] <fhsales> glosoli: i am trying to connect wireless and then do that. is there a problem if i leave the two connections at once?wired and wireless?
[20:33] <glosoli> fhsales: maybe browser is running offline mode ?
[20:34] <glosoli> fhsales: if ping goes properly that it mean internet has successful connection
[20:34] <fhsales> ok.
[20:36] <glosoli> fhsales: so ?
[20:36] <fhsales> glosoli: now i am unable to connect to wireless connection
[20:37] <fhsales> <.<
[20:37] <glosoli> but wired connection worked ?
[20:37] <fhsales> glosoli:  yes. this is my wired connection in ubuntu
[20:37] <glosoli> fhsales: you are on laptop ?
[20:38] <fhsales> glosoli: at my side there is a windows 7 running on the wireless connection of the same router.
[20:38] <fhsales> glosoli: no, i am on a PC.
[20:38] <glosoli> fhsales: I don't get the point, you can connect your windows 7 with wireless or what ?
[20:40] <fhsales> glosoli:  YES. i can connect wireless in windows 7. with the adapter.And i can connect wired only in ubuntu, in this computer.but i cant seem to make this adapter work on ubuntu.
[20:40] <glosoli> fhsales: aaaa, sorry, don't know then
[20:41] <fhsales> glosoli:  Thanks. i am asking here because MANY people talk about the bugs on this specific adapter, realtek 8188SU
[20:41] <glosoli> fhsales: you could report a bug, but it might be just unsupported by ubuntu hmm
[20:42] <fhsales> glosoli:  i see.thanks anyway.
[20:42] <glosoli> fhsales: I mean the maker of the adapter might not support it for ubuntu, well I'd recommend to try forums
[20:43] <fhsales> glosoli:  the maker really does not support ubuntu.
[20:43] <glosoli> fhsales: anyway, try Forums :)
[20:43] <Ubi_DaX> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/precise/beta-1/alternate/lubuntu-12.04-beta1-alternate-amd64.iso
[20:43] <Ubi_DaX> why is that forbidden? ^^^
[20:43] <fhsales>  glosoli ill try that.thanks
[20:43] <fhsales> ^
[20:44] <neglesaks> virunga - yes, it happens by itself if you regularly use the Update Manager
[20:47] <Ubi_DaX> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/
[20:47] <Ubi_DaX> ^beta?
[20:47] <Ubi_DaX> or alpha?
[20:47] <glosoli> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/beta-1/
[20:48] <Ubi_DaX> Sir, I'm looking for lubuntu not ubuntu
[20:48] <fhsales> glosoli:  i finally was able to connect with my wireless;but when i ping google.com it says unknown host
[20:48] <glosoli> Ubi_DaX: Ah, sorry
[20:49] <Ubi_DaX> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/beta-1/
[20:49] <neglesaks> use torrents only for now, please
[20:49] <glosoli> Because servers will get overloaded
[20:49] <Ubi_DaX> what's the difference between alternate and desktop?
[20:50] <Ubi_DaX> !alternate
[20:50] <Ubi_DaX> !desktop
[20:50] <Ubi_DaX> alternate install has no GUI?
[20:50]  * glosoli wondering, if I tryed Alternatve, maybe the webcame will work fine for me.... hmmm? any ideas guys ? 
[20:51] <glosoli> Ubi_DaX: It has a GUI Dos-Like
[20:51] <Ubi_DaX> and desktop?
[20:51] <glosoli> Ubi_DaX: nah
[20:52] <glosoli> I believe it supports wider range of hardware just because it uses less memory for installation
[20:52] <glosoli> andsome other things
[20:53] <Ubi_DaX> so desktop cd has gui?
[20:55] <glosoli> Ubi_DaX: yes, it's a live cd :) which you can use to try first and install if you like
[20:56] <spacebug-> maybe someone should change the topic to "beta 1 released" ;)
[20:56] <ironhalik> how can I disable the dnsmasq thingy?
[20:56] <ironhalik> I think it wreaks havoc with my openvpn
[20:57] <ironhalik> k, found it
[21:02] <FernandoMiguel> jHEELLOOO
[21:02] <FernandoMiguel> miss me ?
[21:02] <FernandoMiguel> :D
[21:02] <glosoli> FernandoMiguel: Yes, I miss you  DDD
[21:02] <glosoli> :D
[21:02] <FernandoMiguel> :)
[21:05] <glosoli> FernandoMiguel: Sup ?
[21:06] <jcook_5xdata> has anyone write a hack to remove the second bar on multi monitor?
[21:06] <neglesaks> right, the torrents are up and running
[21:06] <jtaylor> jcook_5xdata: permanently cover it with something :)
[21:06] <jcook_5xdata> jtaylor: lol
[21:07] <jcook_5xdata> jtaylor: I dont mind it stop it stop my mouse from move betwean screens
[21:07] <jtaylor> I don't like it either
[21:07] <jcook_5xdata> you have to get a good run at it
[21:09] <jcook_5xdata> other then that unity is great. I am running KDE now. sad to say I miss unity
[21:10] <jcook_5xdata> That and they did something to remmia it does not work as good now unless they fix it
[21:11] <yofel> FernandoMiguel: o/
[21:12] <FernandoMiguel> darn
[21:12] <FernandoMiguel> this hud thing is weird
[21:12] <FernandoMiguel> why does it pop up everytime I press alt tab? :(
[21:13] <glosoli> FernandoMiguel: Because you hold a ALT too long
[21:13] <glosoli> FernandoMiguel: I Change that hUD hotkey to ALT+S.. because it was disturbing me too
[21:13] <FernandoMiguel> just enough to change windows
[21:14] <neglesaks> yay, im #4 on the i386 beta :)
[21:14] <neglesaks> seeding at 35 Mbps now
[21:14] <glosoli> FernandoMiguel: Say that to the ones ones who think it's right..
[21:15] <glosoli> neglesaks: Ubuntu from now on will set LightDM Wallpaper the same as Your Desktop Wallpaper yes ?
[21:16] <neglesaks> cannabis leaves?!
[21:17] <glosoli> neglesaks:  ? :DD
[21:17] <neglesaks> ;)
[21:18] <FernandoMiguel> glosoli: where do you change/disable it ?
[21:18] <glosoli> Freeaqingme: In compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:18] <glosoli> oj FernandoMiguel it was meant for you
[21:19] <glosoli> FernandoMiguel: But if you use that, you should be aware of the things you are doing, compizconfig-settings-manager is software which can break your configs :)
[21:19] <FernandoMiguel> I k that
[21:19] <FernandoMiguel> but where in there?
[21:19] <glosoli> Unity Plugin
[21:19] <FernandoMiguel> son, I was using compiz, and you still didn't had heard the word Ubuntu :p
[21:20] <FernandoMiguel> yay
[21:20] <FernandoMiguel> much better
[21:20] <glosoli> FernandoMiguel: At the first it was called Beryl :)
[21:21] <FernandoMiguel> thanks glosoli
[21:21] <FernandoMiguel> yes it was :P
[21:21] <FernandoMiguel> and before that ?
[21:21] <glosoli> And before that I was not interested in Ubuntu :)
[21:21] <glosoli> In fact, I am watching ubuntu for quite a long time, but I felt its worth using as an everyday os just about year ago
[21:24] <FernandoMiguel> I'm seeing some windows artifacts / parts not refreshed on 12.04 with Intel GPU
[21:25]  * glosoli ATI
[21:25] <glosoli> can't help :)
[21:30] <urfr332gO> glosoli, depends on your needs I started with open source dapper it was and always have used some open source as a daily, usually a ubuntu release.
[21:31] <glosoli> urfr332gO: Well most of the times depends on the hardware.
[21:32] <urfr332gO> glosoli, suppose so I have found all mine run on the generic drivers in general, but I don't buy stuff that wont run open source.
[21:32] <glosoli> urfr332gO: from now on I will do the same probably :) Unless they will make some really really bad changes in 12.10
[21:33] <urfr332gO> glosoli, I stared with a place called fregeek where I live all there computers run ubuntu longtrem releases.
[21:34] <urfr332gO> freegeek
[21:34] <urfr332gO> http://www.freegeek.org/ I have a netbook now though.
[21:36] <glosoli> urfr332gO: There ain't thing like that in my country. In btw, some of my teachers like me more, because they like the fact that I use Linux and opensource :DD
[21:38] <urfr332gO> Linus T actually started this store, but they are not together any more.
[21:38] <urfr332gO> Not sure if it was ubuntu though then, if you ask about tyhis you just get a dirty look lol.
[21:39] <urfr332gO> this*]
[21:52] <nhaines> Yay, it's beta!
[21:52] <nhaines> I am disappointed that ubuntu.com updated before ubuntu-announce did, but oh well.  :P
[21:53] <micahg> why, I would think it's standard to update infrastructure before an announcement
[21:54] <nhaines> micahg: I was hoping for simultaneous release.
[21:54] <nhaines> I always just worry about the mirrors more than anything else.
[22:03] <nhaines> Excellent, now my local mirror is updated and the announcement has gone out to coworkers.  :)
[22:04] <glosoli> hmm coworkes ?
[22:05] <nhaines> glosoli: yes, several of us run Ubuntu on our secondary machines and so I keep every version of Ubuntu on my network drive.
[22:06] <glosoli> aaa  :) nice
[22:06] <nhaines> This is the 16th version of Ubuntu and because I have alpha 1 and 2, beta 1, and dailies for precise, the total comes to 97.4 GB.
[22:06] <glosoli> I am taking my college mates into ubuntu thing :D
[22:07] <glosoli> one of them got so into it, that he became anti Windows :D
[22:08] <glosoli> says Ubuntu makes him even play not as much as he did Before :D
[22:08] <yofel> kubuntu did that to me too :P
[22:09] <yofel> plenty of things to debug so I'm never bored (and if I am, there's still minecraft :P)
[22:11] <glosoli> anyone knows how to debug ubuntuone ?
[22:11] <glosoli> what transfers it did ?
[22:17] <ironhalik> hmm, its beta and I just installed lates aily on my laptop
[22:18] <ironhalik> I know its pretty much the same, but theres still that strange feeling ;>
[22:23] <FernandoMiguel> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) Beta 1 Released.
[22:30] <johnjohn101> beta 1 out?
[22:31] <mar112> hello guys! is there a way to disable the dash launcher and use cairo instead?
[22:34] <ironhalik> johnjohn101: http://ubuntu.com
[22:35] <mhsy> hi, i am testing ubuntu 12.04, in unity. Many applications frequently do not appear in the alt+tab list, even if they are on the same workspace. Instead, I get the arrow pointing to the launcher (as opposed to the triangle).
[22:35] <johnjohn101> ironhalik: is owncloud only available in kubuntu?
[22:36] <yofel> johnjohn101: it's in the archive (universe), so available for everyone
[22:37] <mar112> no option to disable dash then?
[22:38] <mar112> this is horrible, I was almost hooked..
[22:38] <mar112> now I know what people felt when they saw hindenburg catch on fire..
[22:39] <ironhalik> johnjohn101: no idea :)
[22:39] <mar112> "oh the humanity!"
[22:39] <johnjohn101> tx yofel
[22:40] <johnjohn101> wow that's a lot of dependencies
[22:40] <yofel> well, webserver + php + mysql
[22:40] <zzecool> glosoli:  :O
[23:36] <skunk> did anyone try the beta yet??
[23:36] <skunk> hello??
[23:37] <arand> Many did, and many do, did you have a question?
[23:39] <skunk> does the unity menu have some functionality like what spotlight has on the mac??
[23:41] <skunk> yes? no? search for files? Search for document by typing in contents of the document??
[23:44] <skunk> this is a dead channel.. whats everyone doing??
[23:45] <ironhalik> ...
[23:48] <ironhalik> and, yeah it does have functionality like that
[23:49] <Daekdroom> I'm not sure whether you can type contents of the document
[23:49] <Daekdroom> Let me try
[23:49] <Daekdroom> Huh.. apparently not.
[23:49] <skunk> i hope so.. it makes college easier lol
[23:50] <skunk> darn
[23:50] <skunk> i think they should be competing directly with MAC OS X
[23:50] <skunk> Ubuntu can't just be the compromise solution