[00:00] Pendulum is not an animal, is it? [00:01] It can be, they saw ppl in half for example. [01:11] Hi. I'm experiencing some troubles at login on 12.04. Is this the right channel to request some troubleshooting, on? :-) [01:12] Yes, it is. [01:13] great. anyone who would like to troubleshoot it? I am stuck using the Greek layout at login and my password is in latin characters - not in Greek. [01:13] so I'm stuck using my guest account :-( [01:22] capslock286, you should file a bug report Oo [01:22] thanks, but is there a work-around, for the moment? :-) [01:23] I have no knowledge on that area. Someone else might, maybe if you stick around a little more. [04:19] Did the beta arrive? [04:19] Or maybe I need to see the new schedule? [04:21] http://release-blog.ubuntu.com/?p=191 you can't look on the web? [05:03] * melvincv wishes a Good Morning to all who woke up to March 1st... sigh. [06:10] Nice move there, pangolin. [06:11] Pleiades was starting to irritate me with his language and talk..... [06:11] he is semiblack yeh so newports or kools [06:12] pleiades, please, just speak while making sense........ [06:12] can someone please give me a pointer on this http://bryansalisbury.com/cve220/work.jpg? [06:12] pleiades, just looking at that makes my head hurt...... [06:12] fine.. [06:12] Math is not my strong point. [06:13] wish it was, though. [06:13] that way I'd have both sides of what I excel in, Science [06:15] how the heck did I mistake #ubuntu+1 for #ubuntu-offtopic??? === Adys_ is now known as Adys [09:45] hi [09:45] others didn't give a fuck [09:49] i'm running ubuntu precise inside kvm guest [09:49] and can't find module virtio_net in linux-image-3.2.0-17 [10:04] Hi, I use local mirror (setup using apt-cacher) to upgrade a machine from oneiric to precise. I modified sources.list of this machine to point to the local mirror. My question is does after the upgrade, Ubuntu will do search and replace in the sources.list to replace oneiric by precise or will it create a new sources.list? Thus, the need to re-modify the sources.list to point to the local mirror after the upgrade. Thanks [10:32] so, wheres the beta? :P [10:35] lubuntu 12.04 is okay for daily use? [10:35] I don't think such promise can be given before the release [10:35] If I download it now can i update it to the stable version without reinstalling? [10:36] precisepangolin: yes [10:36] !final [10:36] If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. [10:36] thanks arand [10:48] precisepangolin, I've been using it for quite a while, so don't rely on a daily install if that's the only machine you have, or if you can dual boot it with a stable release [10:58] ironhalik: have you found beta cd somewhere in archives ? [11:12] Hey guys, is it a good move/idea to simply run dist upgrade to use unity 5 to resolve issues I'm currently facing in unity 4.28? My unity launcher icons are abnormally spaced apart from other launcher icons, and they each have a progress bar on it. Even dash. The problem seem to appear hours after I installed pidgin-libnotify. [11:25] hithur, can you make a screenshot. But upgrading to 12.04 at this stage will certainly break other things [11:26] http://i.imgur.com/19nWL.png [11:26] That's unity 4.28 [11:27] Everything was perfect though :S [11:32] Eversince hours after installing something to do with gir1.2-unity-4.0, or pidgin-libnotify, that's when these problems appeared. If I logout, then log back in, my launcher icons no longer appears, it would have this invisible effect, and in that screenshot, you would guess the launcher icons are misplaced where it's impossible to click on/doanything about. [11:33] This affects all user account (so it's system wide, not just happening to one user) [11:35] Any news on 12.04 beta? [11:35] branant: not released yet. in all probability, the topic of this channel will be changed to 'Beta 1 released' when 12.04 beta is actually released! [11:35] would like to hear too [11:36] if there is any ISO somewhere in the archives [11:36] rigved: right! [11:37] glosoli_: the daily builds on cdimage.ubuntu.com should have the beta 1 iso already, if you are interested [11:37] Thanks [11:37] rigved: hmm sure I'm wana do normal format and install [11:41] branant: you are welcome. [11:42] is theere anyone who uses Gnome SHell ? [11:49] glosoli: i am currently using unity but i have gnome shell installed too. what problem are you having? [11:55] hello people [11:55] does anyone knows how to solve WIreless problems? [11:56] anyone? [11:58] does anyone know how to solve issues on wireless connections? [12:01] Can someone confirm this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/943941 [12:01] Launchpad bug 943941 in unity (Ubuntu) "GRID plugin very inconsistent and erratic behavior " [Undecided,New] [12:03] people, is somebody out there? [12:03] zzecool: I can do in 2 hours [12:04] than you ikonia [12:04] :) [12:04] thank you [12:04] * [12:05] fhsales: hit it [12:06] zzecool i am using ubuntu 12.04 because it recognizes my usb wireless adapter.But when i try to connect to my usual wireless connection it keeps asking the password but it does not connect. [12:07] hmm i cant help you with this [12:07] fhsales: try WAP [12:07] err [12:07] WPA [12:07] 1, not 2 [12:08] Just a hunch, TIAS [12:08] locsmif: why ? [12:08] locsmif: why try random security setting [12:08] 1.) know what the encyption on the network is 2.) set the network adaptor to use that [12:08] not try random settings [12:09] fhsales: actually try to remove security for testing and retry [12:09] if it connect then you have narrowed your problem [12:09] ikonia: because the symptoms of the problem remind me of similar symptoms I saw when the problem had this cause. It's a vague, trial and error type approach, and it's a long shot. [12:09] Correlation does not mean causation, but it's worth a try to pin it down, imo [12:09] locsmif: then think before suggesting it [12:10] just offering random "try standing on your head" approach isn't useful [12:10] ikonia: that's not the case here [12:10] please be a bit more respectful [12:10] locsmif: that IS the case here [12:10] zzecool thanks.but now my brother has just kicked the module, shut down the computer and the monitor wont turn on anymore. [12:10] locsmif: please offer useful suggestions rather than random [12:10] I'm sorry, but it wasn't random [12:11] But I'll stop participating in this discussion, thanks [12:12] fhsales: what module ? im confused [12:12] monitor and computer got kicked? [12:15] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/208/builds/12794/downloads [12:15] woooolia [12:16] zzecool my brother kicked the Power button of the no break. turned down the computer, and now when i try to turn it on, the monitor says out of range. [12:17] i dont think we can help [12:17] glosoli: ? [12:17] I'm not sure how that has anything to do with a network card ? [12:18] zzecool: beta 1, doing full format, to fix some partitions and then switching to GS [12:18] gs? [12:18] shell [12:18] what ?????? [12:18] i did get that [12:19] beta 1 doing a full format to fix partitions and switch gs? [12:19] doing format where when in what what partitions what gs switch ? [12:19] ;/ [12:19] zzecool: yes I will format my computer now, will install beta1 , and then I will switch to GS :) probably [12:19] Gnome SHell [12:19] ahhhhh [12:19] you are doing all this [12:20] .. [12:20] yes yes :DDD [12:20] why gs ? [12:20] i hate it [12:20] lol [12:20] Vertical workspaces ? [12:20] give ME A BREAK [12:20] zzecool: Now I released how much problems they caused by removing dodge. [12:20] MAximized window close max min buttons [12:20] doesn't seem to be in the righ tplace [12:20] :) [12:20] gnome shell is good. i wish there was a way to get the notification system of GS to Unity! [12:20] rigved: You use unity ? [12:20] rigved: the notification system indeed is a kick in the ass [12:21] glosoli: yes. [12:21] its very nice [12:21] :) [12:21] :) [12:21] glosoli: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/943941 [12:21] Launchpad bug 943941 in unity (Ubuntu) "GRID plugin very inconsistent and erratic behavior " [Undecided,New] [12:21] youtube link soon [12:21] hey zzecool how do i configure my wireless connection so it wont have a security code? [12:22] fhsales: from your rooters web page [12:22] router* ;p [12:24] glosoli: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9wKUP4LvCo&feature=youtu.be [12:27] zzecool how do i access my router page from ubuntu? [12:28] fhsales: we cant support you here sry [12:32] fhsales: it's the same as any other OS - it's a web browser, firefox in Ubuntu is the same as firefox in Windows [12:32] (for example) [12:34] hey zzecool, still there? [12:34] yes [12:35] zzecooll i accessed from the other computer, turned off security, rebooted the Access point [12:35] zzecool restarted my ubuntu system.now it is trying to connect. [12:36] and ? [12:36] is it connected? [12:36] zzecool still trying... [12:36] try #ubuntu channel [12:37] zzecool they say i cant use ubuntu channel because my version is off-topic there. [12:37] zzecool in the end it said disconnected, you are now offline. [12:38] zzecool so i think is is not security problem. [12:38] hmm fuck my internet lagged [12:38] glosoli, no cursing here [12:38] bazhang: sorry won't happen again [12:39] rigved: you are running precise with GS maybe ? [12:39] bazhang: maybe you know if Ubuntu by default creates /boot partition ? [12:39] glosoli: no it doesnt [12:39] glosoli, not unless it's changed in 12.04 [12:40] nothing to prevent you from making one, however [12:40] bazhang: is it worth ? [12:42] glosoli: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CreateBootPartitionAfterInstall [12:42] zzecool: I know I can do it, I just want format whole hdd, in btw, do you know if it's worth having /boot at seperate partition ? [12:44] why have a different partition only for grub and kernel images [12:44] i dont know [12:44] maybe some security tricks [12:44] i cant find any other [12:45] heard someone yesterday talking that getting things from smaller partitions [12:45] is way faster [12:45] i think its is going to produce more problems than fix any [12:45] read the firsti parts [12:45] first* [12:46] your bios may not even recognize the partition [12:46] so you will not be able to boot [12:46] i dont know [12:46] zzecool: anyway, do you have seperate partition for home ? [12:46] no but i should [12:47] not on this machine [12:47] on other i have it [12:47] zzecool: /home stores just configs and your media files yes ? [12:47] just to be clear 12.04 discussion is this channel, not #ubuntu [12:47] zzecool: so, ubuntu channel sent me back here:P [12:47] here its impossible its a hybric disk GUID + MBR ( osx , ubuntu , window 7 ) [12:48] fhsales1: are you using precise? [12:48] glosoli: yes [12:48] ok going to format [12:48] brb' [12:48] you can move [12:48] it without format [12:48] ..... [12:48] too late [12:48] lol [12:49] fhsales1: what version of ubunut are you using ? [12:49] ubuntu* [12:49] zzecool 12.04 [12:49] zzecool: 12.04 [12:51] Hi, I use local mirror (setup using apt-cacher) to upgrade a machine from oneiric to precise. I modified sources.list of this machine to point to the local mirror. My question is does after the upgrade, will Ubuntu do search and replace in the sources.list to replace oneiric by precise or will it create a new sources.list? Thus, the need to re-modify the sources.list to point to the local mirror after the upgrade. Thanks [12:51] fhsales1: thats why they send you here [12:52] fhsales1: did you had this problem with oneiric ? or only with precise? [12:53] fhsales1: do you have your system upgraded with the latest updates ? [12:54] zzecool: i had the 10.04 version, lucid linx.But it would not recognize my usb wireless.so i upgraded to version 12.04.now it recognizes my usb adapter, shows all available connection, but when i try to connect to it, it wont work. [12:54] zzecool: i installed the version, but i dont think it has installed the updates. [12:56] open the update manager press refresh and if update appear install them [12:56] if it ask you for a partial update close it [12:56] only do simples updates [12:56] zzecool: i will have to move my desktop to a place with ethernet. i ll be back in some minutes. [12:56] if it doesnt work file a bug [12:57] ill brb too [13:02] zzecool: hey, still there? [13:02] yes [13:03] best thing you can do is file a bug [13:03] zzecool: how do i do that? [13:03] wait [13:03] you need to have a launcpad account [13:03] and then [13:03] and then follow this vid : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=18nsScrDIa0 [13:04] zzecool: put my computer really near the access point, now it connects to the wireless network, but i am unable to transfer data.i cant enter a website. [13:04] fhsales1: before filing a bug or anything you should be almost sure its a bug [13:05] try your device to another machine [13:05] maybe running windows [13:05] make sure its the linux that has the problem and not your device [13:05] that it [13:05] good luck [13:05] zzecool: yes, i am running on my laptop windows 7 and talking to you from it.the connection works. the problem is configuring it in ubuntu. [13:05] zzecool: thanks. [13:06] ok [13:06] so its a bug [13:06] and the package that is affected is probably the "network-manager" [13:06] good luck [13:06] happy bug hunt [13:06] zzecool, probably not [13:06] but it's okay to raise it there [13:07] fhsales1, i guess you're running precise? [13:08] zzecool: i had the 10.04 version, lucid linx.But it would not recognize my usb wireless.so i upgraded to version 12.04.now it recognizes my usb adapter, shows all available connection, but when i try to connect to it, it wont work. [13:09] zzecool: yes, precise pagolin [13:10] Hey, all. I was wondering on entering an entry for the 12.04 LTS countdown banner contest, but I can't seem to figure out how I can upload a submission to the submissions page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/PreciseCountdownBanner. Does anyone know how? Thank you in advance. [13:12] zzecool: i will reboot my sistem wait a minute [13:16] Anyone? [13:17] herro [13:21] Hey, all. I was wondering on entering an entry for the 12.04 LTS countdown banner contest, but I can't seem to figure out how I can upload a submission to the submissions page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/PreciseCountdownBanner. Does anyone know how? Thank you in advance. [13:22] Is dist-upgrade nothing more than simply changing and editing sources.list? [13:23] hithur, no, it isn't. [13:24] dist-upgrade isn't meant to touch sources.list at all. [13:26] Then what does dist-upgrade change to make it so it starts downloading next version stuff? [13:28] hithur, dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade to the next version by itself. [13:28] I mean, it probably will try (and break your system) if you change the sources.list yourself. [13:28] dudstep9: Can you just edit the wiki page and your submission there? [13:29] when will beta 1 release today? (obvious answer being "when it's ready") [13:29] It's meant to solve dependencies issues of package upgrades (by removing or installing new packages) [13:30] I only want to upgrade my unity, not "every darn thing". [13:30] Are you using 12.04? [13:31] No. 11.10. [13:31] fairuz: It says that I don't have the permission to do so. Any I idea on how I can proceed? [13:33] dudstep9: Sorry no. It says to put your submission here (on the page) so I assume you have to edit the page. [13:34] fairuz: And that's what's puzzling me. It says to put the submissions on the page but I can't find a way on how to. [13:35] dudstep9: When you say you don't have permission, is it when you are submitting your modification or when you click on the Edit button? [13:38] fairuz: interestingly, I don't find any edit button. I tried submitting by going to the drop down menu (labelled 'more actions') and selected load. That's what gave me the permission error. Sorry for being a wiki newbie. [13:38] anyone else have an issue in xfce or with any desktop opening thunar taking forever? i have a ssd and everything except thunar opens snappy.. can't figure out why its opening so slow [13:38] So all I want is to get just necessary packages for unity 5. [13:42] dudstep9: Log in using your LP account, and normally you will have a Edit menu [13:52] fairuz: Well, I've created an account but stiil no edit button. [13:58] hallo beautiful people [13:58] i need help with some connections issues. [13:58] does anyone know how to configure wireless and wired connections? [14:09] Hi, my wifi disconnects frequently http://pastebin.ca/2123201 [14:12] hello people [14:12] i am looking for some information about wired and wireless connections on ubuntu 12.04 [14:12] does anyone know how to configure WIred/wireless networks? [14:12] fhsales: I think it's the same as 11.10 [14:13] philinux: Ok, i was just saying my version because people on ubuntu said that i should seek advice within this channel.so... [14:14] fhsales: ah ok [14:14] philinux: so, i finally got my wireless connection to works, but is seems way slower than my wired one.is there something i should do? [14:15] fhsales: depends how far away the router is and how many walls the signal has to go throough [14:15] fhsales: you could try a different channel number [14:15] philinux: actually i am less than 2 feet my access pooint. [14:15] philinux: which channel do you recommend? [14:17] fhsales: there is no recommended channel. My router has 13 channels. Most are default to automatic [14:17] fhsales: try starting at 1 and see [14:17] philinux: how do i change the channel on my router? [14:18] fhsales: that is nothing to do with ubuntu [14:18] fhsales: the router is covered by your documentation [14:18] fhsales: mine is from firefox web browser 192.168.1.1 you need to check with the router manual [14:19] ikonia: my question was about how wireless connections worked on ubuntu. [14:19] fhsales: yes, then your question was "how do I change my routers config" [14:19] fhsales: that is not an ubuntu issue and is covered by your routers documentation/support [14:19] ikonia: ok. [14:20] fhsales: whats the router make and model [14:38] Hi, if I want to be notified asap of when beta-1 comes out (so that I can start my torrent download), am I in the right place? [14:40] ikonia: are you there? i have read that ubuntu really has a problem on wireless connections.what do you think? [14:40] jStefan: No, subscribe to the ubuntu-devel-announce mailing list. [14:40] fhsales: I don't think that's the case at all [14:40] fhsales: no [14:40] jpds, thanks [14:41] ikonia: ok. when i connect with my wireless, i put the password, and it connects, but firefox is unable to open a page.what could be? [14:41] fhsales: you've said that a few times, [14:42] fhsales: I've told you I'm not going to support you [14:42] fhsales: No problems here, talk to your ISP? [14:42] fhsales, did you check if it was a dns problem? [14:43] jpds: i will talk to them.but it does not seem to be their equipmente. when using windows 7 it works great. [14:43] jStefan: how do i check that? [14:44] you could try visiting a site by it's ip, for example OpenDNS's status website: http://208.69.38.170/ [14:51] fhsales: when on wired with you laptop using ubuntu does firefox work ok? [14:53] is the beta on the daily build site? [14:54] roasted: the iso's are labelled 1/3/12 so thats pretty fresh [14:54] philinux: thought so, I just wasn't sure if that was "the" beta or not [14:55] roasted: beta is just a snapshot of the daily build so it's not anything other than a milestone [14:55] philinux: I understand. I just specifically wanted to wait until beta 1 to begin testing it on some of our hardware here. [14:57] roasted do you know about zsync [14:57] I don ot [14:57] do not* [14:57] Hello all. I was wondering where I can install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and if I can still keep all my files? [14:58] roasted: ok so you cd to the directory where you've downloaded the iso then use this zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync [14:59] roasted: change it to suit your arch [14:59] roasted: IIRC you have to install zsync === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:04] hi, beta 1 is due today ? [15:06] !schedule [15:06] A schedule of Precise Pangolin (12.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PreciseReleaseSchedule [15:07] yeah i saw it on the wiki :D [15:07] doda1: when the motd changes, the beta is available [15:08] mhm [15:10] So are you guys following them on Google+ or on twitter, or you just keep refreshing the page until it shows up? [15:10] My point is, how do you know when is it officially up? [15:10] branant: No I just got the daily build [15:11] philinux, hehe ok! Is it labeled as beta anywhere? [15:11] branant: Thats the point it's just a label [15:11] branant: hang in here, you'll see the change. Could just wait til tomorrow. If you don't get it immediately it's not going to be unavailable. [15:12] you could even install the daily and upgrade seamlessly into the beta [15:12] philinux: yes, firefox works ok [15:12] so [15:12] mind posting a link to the daily build ? [15:12] philinux: i see my adapter working, its blue LED is flashing all the time. but it wont enter a site. [15:13] doda1: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [15:14] thanks [15:14] fhsales: So to recap win7 wireless is ok and ubuntu wired is ok [15:14] philinux: yes, this is it. [15:15] philinux: i did a dmesg -c and it is finding firmware error.says i should download the latest BIOS [15:15] fhsales: I would delete the wireless entry and let is scan and set it up again [15:15] philinux: ok, how i do this? [15:16] philinux, how often is that current built? [15:16] fhsales: right click on the networking icon choose edit connections. Wirless tab highlight your entry and delete it [15:16] 12hrs, 24? [15:17] philinux: did this.now i reboot the system? [15:17] branant: well they call it the daily build but I haven't checked. I just use zsync to maintain my iso file [15:19] fhsales: hang on I'll just fire my laptop up [15:19] philinux: hanging :) [15:20] Hello all. Is it possible to install 12.04 and still keep ally files, or should I wait till it's fully released and update it? [15:21] UnknownFearNG, sure, either way works [15:21] Hi. I've got a problem with Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop. In Windows, my battery runs for at least 3 hours, when not even fully charged and with Aero powered on. Ubuntu (12.04 and 11.10) runs for a maximum of 1h and 30m when the battery is fully charged. And 12.04 does have all the latest updates, same as 11.10. [15:21] fhsales: right I just deleted mine. On right clickinh the network icon I can see my ssid so you just click on it and enter your password to set it up again [15:22] UnknownFearNG, always prudent to have backups on all systems, of course [15:22] bazhag: How do I go about installing 12.04 and still keep all my programs? [15:23] UnknownFearNG, this is an upgrade from 11.10? [15:24] bazhag: yes, silly me lol. Should I install it via cd or from package manager? [15:25] philinux: did not work. [15:25] UnknownFearNG, via the net : package manager; or alternate installer : your choice [15:25] bazhag: sounds good, thank you for your help [15:26] philinux: look this pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/863581/ it says wlan not ready [15:26] bazhag? :| [15:27] fhsales: I know its daft but you have accidentally knocked the wireless button on the laptop? [15:28] philinux: HAHAHA. NO no, it is a PC.not laptop:P [15:28] fhsales: and has the pc got a wireless dongle [15:29] yes, it is a wireless adapter. Elsys EWU-2n35a [15:31] fhsales: and the wired is unplugged [15:31] philinux: wired is plugged.should i unpliug it? i will try. [15:32] fhsales: yes wired should be unplugged if you want to use wireless [16:12] philinux: hey [16:13] philinux: it worked for 2 minutes.but now it has got back to same old bad functioning. [16:13] philinux: wireless wont work.wired working just fine. [16:13] fhsales: sound like your wireless dongle has a problem. I'm not a network guy [16:14] fhsales: you can check it from a terminal with iwlist scan [16:15] philinux: ok. i do not think it is the dongle, because it works just fine with windows 7. i have read in another place that usb wireless works bad with ubuntu. i am thinking about buying a TP-link 300 N PCI card. [16:15] fhsales: sorry I cant help. This might help you http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-troubleshoot-wireless-network-connection-in-ubuntu.html [16:16] philinux: you were of great help man [16:16] fhsales: and this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-network-troubleshooting-tips.html [16:17] philinux: thanks a lot. [16:17] fhsales: google this and good luck > ubuntu trouble shoot networking [16:44] anyone know when the beta 1 images are going to be posted? [16:44] pace_t_zulu, they already are [16:45] glosoli: could you share the link? [16:45] the links at the technical overview are broken [16:45] pace_t_zulu, wait will find it for you :) [16:46] pace_t_zulu, for AMD64 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/208/builds/12794/downloads [16:48] pace_t_zulu, is what what you wanted ? [16:49] :) [16:50] They're still testing those ISOs I believe. [16:50] For the Beta 1 releas.e [16:50] FunnyLookinHat: Dunno, using that one atm [16:50] *release [16:50] Right on [16:50] You can track the Beta 1 release stuff here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/208/builds [16:51] The new qa / iso tool is super awesome :) [16:51] FunnyLookinHat: I am already running that one, seems to work :) [16:51] oooh cool :D [16:52] I mean Beta 1 [16:54] FunnyLookinHat: Do you know any proper way to get GIMP 2.8 in Precise ? :D [16:54] As far as I know - 2.8 isn't release. [16:54] 2.7.4 is the latest development release - which - when complete - will turn into 2.8 [16:55] FunnyLookinHat: Yeah< I understand that, but I want that 2.7.4 [16:55]