[17:03] <dholbach> hello
[17:03] <czajkowski> aloha
[17:04] <czajkowski> Gwaihir: pleia2 akgraner
[17:04] <Gwaihir> o/
[17:04] <YokoZar> Good day everyone
[17:04] <czajkowski> YokoZar: aloha
[17:04]  * pleia2 waves
[17:05] <czajkowski> chair?
[17:06] <YokoZar> #startmeeting Community Council
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[17:06] <YokoZar> Greetings everyone, not much on the agenda today, just the Loco Council checkup.  Do we have someone from the Loco Council here?
[17:07] <xdatap1> o/
[17:07] <czajkowski> and SergioMeneses
[17:07] <SergioMeneses> hi guys!
[17:07] <czajkowski> 3 of us here
[17:08] <YokoZar> Fantastic
[17:08] <dholbach> nice :)
[17:08] <dholbach> how are you all doing?
[17:08] <Gwaihir> hello folk!
[17:08] <Gwaihir> s/folk/folks
[17:08] <YokoZar> #topic Loco Council Checkup
[17:09] <xdatap1> let's break the ice :)
[17:09] <czajkowski> thanks for coming folks
[17:09] <YokoZar> So, what I like to get most from these CC-checkups is anything that currently seems like a hangup in process or communication that we can help with :)
[17:10] <YokoZar> Especially anything that might become a sort of looming problem due to things like scale
[17:11] <dholbach> What is your general gut feeling of how the LoCo Council running right now? I think some of you joined the LC just a few months ago
[17:12] <czajkowski> so the council had some new people on it this year
[17:12] <czajkowski> and that has taken some time to get used to things given the last council was in office for 2 years
[17:12] <Gwaihir> xdatap1, SergioMeneses, since you are new in the LC, want to share something? your experience so far?
[17:12] <czajkowski> and it's taken some time to get the new people up to spead on things and still we have new stuff we encounter and have to deal with
[17:13] <xdatap1> Gwaihir, sure
[17:13] <xdatap1>  I consider myself still a LoCo Council newbie. I'm still get my feet wet
[17:14] <xdatap1> things are going quite well afaik
[17:14] <SergioMeneses> I really like work with LC, they are a great group!
[17:14] <xdatap1> we had montly meetings and we met in google plus with audio/vido
[17:14] <xdatap1> that makes things easy
[17:14] <czajkowski> aye we are trying to immprove our communication so weekly meetings on G+ is good I think
[17:15] <pleia2> great
[17:15] <SergioMeneses> this make the work more easy
[17:15] <ScottK> Doesn't that hurt transparency?  There's no public archive if it's on G+.
[17:15] <xdatap1> we reviewed 4 loco team since january,  3 of them have been approved
[17:16] <czajkowski> ScottK: it's more to help the new people get up to speed and just talk things through.
[17:16] <ScottK> OK.
[17:17] <xdatap1> ScottK, yep true, irc meetings are better for that point of view. We used G+ for brainstorming an improvement on a document, btw. so, nothing that keep secret :)
[17:17] <czajkowski> ScottK: given work and timezones mid week it's just harder to get to talk and bond tbh
[17:17] <dholbach> Is reapprovals what you spend most of your time on?
[17:17] <ScottK> Sure.  It's not like all communication needs to be done in public, but it's worth considering.
[17:17] <Gwaihir> xdatap1, SergioMeneses, czajkowski, LC process wise, do you think there is something to improve, everything works smoothly? documentation to be written or reviewd? I'm referring in particular to the review of the approval wiki page
[17:17] <czajkowski> dholbach: so each cycle differs, this cycle not so mcuh, we only have 8, last cycle the LC had 26
[17:18] <greg-g> ScottK: totally agree.
[17:18] <xdatap1> dholbach, if we're talking the meeting time, yes. if we consider the whole time, not really.
[17:19] <dholbach> What else do you spend a lot of time on? Is there anything anybody else could help with?
[17:21] <czajkowski> getting things done a bit faster or improving feedback but I think with the new G+ hangouts will help
[17:21] <SergioMeneses> dholbach, I think that every help or point of view is important.. always we can work quietly
[17:22] <xdatap1> yes, I agre with czajkowski: if we keep meeting often we can deal with everything
[17:23] <YokoZar> Could you give me a vague sense of the turnaround time for loco-council related business?
[17:23] <YokoZar> eg, is most stuff resolved by the next meeting?
[17:23] <czajkowski> YokoZar: sometimes tbh, but it could be stuff only happens the week before which isn't ideal tbh
[17:24] <xdatap1> many stuff are resolved in a day, btw. Launchpad tasks, responding to RT
[17:24] <xdatap1> things like improving a document needs more time, btw
[17:25] <czajkowski> nods
[17:25] <czajkowski> xdatap1: good way to explain it
[17:25] <xdatap1> and they can't be done quickly
[17:25] <czajkowski> nods
[17:25] <xdatap1> from my point of view, we're not in the highest peak of work at moment, am I right czajkowski ?
[17:26] <czajkowski> xdatap1: nope it's a quieter cycle compared to others, which is good as it gives people a chance to get to know one another and learn
[17:26] <czajkowski> we have a great helpful factoid in the locoteams channel
[17:26] <czajkowski> so more people can find us which has been useful tbh
[17:27] <pleia2> yeah, I see it used a fair amount :)
[17:28] <czajkowski> yup amd I'm really glad it's there
[17:28] <czajkowski> I'd like to see it elsewhere as it would help people to mail the council rather than one person tbh
[17:28] <czajkowski> we do have loco council on highlight
[17:28] <SergioMeneses> we are doing a good work! we take our time as xdatap1 says... LocoGettingApproved is a great document and we are trying to make it better
[17:29] <dholbach> I think I recall a fair amount of conflict resolution in the past - or more generally helping LoCos to improve - is that still a major part of your work?
[17:30] <xdatap1> no since I've been appointed. I've never discussed a conflict resolution
[17:30] <xdatap1> so, after UDS
[17:30] <xdatap1> we're in a peaceful time :)
[17:31] <czajkowski> dholbach: again it varies tbh, not so far this cycle tbh
[17:33] <Gwaihir> looks like a healthy LC :)
[17:33] <SergioMeneses> Gwaihir, ty
[17:34] <dholbach> In your point of view: Is there anything which, in an ideal world, would be even better? Anything which would make LoCo teams happier and you happier as well?
[17:34] <xdatap1> IMHO what we just need is to know each other better and work together more to be more cohesive. From my personal point of view just to take confidence with these new tasks
[17:35] <czajkowski> +1
[17:36] <xdatap1> dholbach, fixing the bug #1 maybe?
[17:36] <dholbach> haha :-)
[17:36] <Gwaihir> :-)
[17:36] <SergioMeneses> :O
[17:36] <pleia2> thanks for coming :)
[17:37] <xdatap1> thanks to you for your time guys
[17:37] <dholbach> thanks for the great work you're doing
[17:37] <SergioMeneses> CC ty for your time!
[17:37] <czajkowski> :)
[17:37] <dholbach> I just looked at http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1443/detail/ and it's great to see HOW many different teams from all over the place participate
[17:37] <Gwaihir> thanks all for your great work!
[17:38] <dholbach> most of the places look like places where I should go next for holidays :-P
[17:38] <xdatap1> dholbach, consider that Italy will have two global jam :)
[17:38] <dholbach> xdatap1, taken into account :)
[17:38] <Gwaihir> there's none in France...
[17:39] <Gwaihir> well... I will take part at the Italian one, but from France, does it count? :-)
[17:39] <YokoZar> I'm sure both the Italians and the French will count you
[17:40] <xdatap1> :)
[17:41] <dholbach> I've run out of questions :)
[17:41] <czajkowski> :D
[17:42] <YokoZar> Very well thn
[17:42] <YokoZar> #topic Public Comment
[17:42] <YokoZar> Anything for the CC to discuss not on the agenda?
[17:42] <czajkowski> nope all good
[17:43] <Gwaihir> nope, nothing else from me
[17:43] <czajkowski> thank you for coming folks
[17:43] <YokoZar> #topic Fixed Agenda
[17:44] <YokoZar> All right, volunteers for team reports, wiki page, next chair, etc.
[17:44] <Gwaihir> I chair next time
[17:44] <YokoZar> #action Gwaihir to chair next meeting
[17:44] <meetingology> ACTION: Gwaihir to chair next meeting
[17:45] <YokoZar> Can you update the meeting log/wiki page too?
[17:45] <pleia2> I can take care of that
[17:46] <YokoZar> #action pleia2 to update meeting log and wiki pages
[17:46] <meetingology> ACTION: pleia2 to update meeting log and wiki pages
[17:46] <YokoZar> Final thing is for someone to remind the America's board
[17:46] <YokoZar> about the next meeting
[17:47] <pleia2> I'll take care of that (I'm on the board)
[17:47] <YokoZar> I was waiting for that ;)
[17:47] <czajkowski> sweet
[17:47] <pleia2> :)
[17:47] <YokoZar> #action pleia2 to remind herself to attend next meeting :)
[17:47] <meetingology> ACTION: pleia2 to remind herself to attend next meeting :)
[17:47] <pleia2> hehe
[17:48] <pleia2> it is worth mentioning that a lot of membership boards have a number of members retiring in May
[17:48] <pleia2> so we should think of questions with that in mind
[17:48] <YokoZar> Ok, that seems to be all of the agenda then
[17:48] <YokoZar> #topic Bonus CC Meeting Time
[17:50] <YokoZar> Thank you folks for coming, thank you for volunteering, and thank you for contributing to Ubuntu!
[17:50] <YokoZar> #endmeeting
[17:50] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Mar  1 17:50:18 2012 UTC.
[17:50] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-01-17.06.moin.txt
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[19:52] <PvandeWyngaerde> is it possible to get a meetingbot for meeting logs on our own channel ?
[19:53] <MrChrisDruif> !bots
[19:56] <MrChrisDruif> PvandeWyngaerde; I think you can contact AlanBell to let meetingology on to your own channel (your Ubuntu LoCo I presume?)
[19:57] <PvandeWyngaerde> ok