[00:04] <balloons> lol.. ok, still trying, still not working. a bientot cr3
[00:33] <phillw> balloons: ping?
[00:33] <phillw> skaet: pinmg
[00:34] <phillw> oops ping
[00:34] <skaet> phillw
[00:34] <skaet> hiya
[00:34]  * skaet hits cr too quickly - must be day before release... lol
[00:35] <phillw> skaet: I have an update, but not sure if it usable as I have no idea how these things work
[00:35] <skaet> phillw,  gilir let us know earlier
[00:35] <phillw> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-artwork/+bug/938472
[00:35] <skaet> yup.  :)
[00:36] <skaet> alternates being rebuilt right now
[00:36] <phillw> thanks...
[00:36] <skaet> am about to start the lubuntu desktop images in a minute.
[00:36] <phillw> We were really flying by minute by minute updates
[00:37] <phillw> of all the times to loose gilir... tonight was not a good one :P
[00:37] <skaet> phillw,  fingers crossed it all works out ok.  :)
[00:37] <phillw> one thing I have learned about rafael, he is a perfectionist.
[00:37] <skaet> let me know how the new images look either here or in #ubuntu-release.
[00:38]  * skaet just glad we're finding this out now, rather than a month from now ;)
[00:39] <phillw> once they are rebuilt, it was previously agreed that a mention go out on the mailing list.
[00:39] <phillw> From there we would diverse to our flavours
[00:41] <phillw> if you would apply for https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa I will accept immediately, I filter stuff to them, the general lubuntu list & also backwards from them to ubuntu-qa
[00:42] <phillw> skaet: Jeez.... I do not even want to think of that happening as we got to the final RC!
[00:50] <skaet> phillw, ok,  have applied.
[00:50] <skaet> the lubuntu alternate images are available on the tester now.
[00:52] <phillw> skaet: how long before the entire suite (including the ppc ones) are all done?
[00:52] <botfather> ok i installed bet1 (or what it is going to be) and i am still baffled on how to change my keyboard shortcuts
[00:52] <phillw> you have been approved
[00:52] <botfather> anybody can help with that ? ;]
[00:53] <botfather> i want to couple alt-f1 f2 etc to switch to my workspace stuff
[00:53] <botfather> ok it seems to be under the keyboard settings
[00:54] <skaet> phillw,  am estimating another 30 minutes and they should be out of the builder and posted as well.  ppc is the slow one...
[00:55] <phillw> skaet: so, if I let the 'gang' know they will be there from 01:00 UTC, will that give the respins time to complete?
[00:56] <phillw> We really are pushing it for beta 1 to be released!
[00:56] <skaet> :)
[00:56]  * skaet calculating...
[00:57] <skaet> no 1:00 UTC is 3 minutes away - still need 30 is my guess.
[00:57] <skaet> however they can start on alternate now - its up.
[00:58] <phillw> soz, 02:00 UTC for them all.
[00:58] <phillw> mis reading my own clock
[00:58] <skaet> phillw, 1:30 UTC is my guess.
[00:58]  * skaet assuming all goes well ;)
[00:59] <phillw> skaet: what will they be listed under? Live / install / alternate / ppc
[01:00] <phillw> I'm doubtful that our few testers can validate today for Beta 1 being fully accepted as a release :( We simply do not have enough.
[01:01] <skaet> phillw,  Lubuntu Alternate *,  Lubuntu Desktop  * - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/208/builds
[01:02] <skaet> has them on it - scan down to Product (Lubuntu)
[01:02] <skaet> the ones stroked out right now,  are the ones rebuilding. :)
[01:03] <skaet> phillw - most of prior results will probably be valid,  so key right now is to make sure the artwork is usable.
[01:03] <skaet> and nothing else strange is discoverd.
[01:04] <phillw> great :) Rafael has just updated bug 938472
[01:05] <phillw> afaik, apart from that one, we only had the g3 ppc one to be looked into.
[01:06] <phillw> well, as show stopper bugs.
[01:15] <phillw> skaet: what is the cut off time to confirm beta 1 from the new RC's?
[01:17] <skaet> phillw,  would like to know the results by 1300 UTC.   I'll be asking gilir in the #ubuntu-release channel if its a "go" sometime around then.
[01:22] <phillw> skaet: jeez! that is 12 hours away.....
[01:22] <phillw> I'll do my best.
[01:23] <skaet> phillw,  that's all we can all do. :)   Key thing is to verify the artwork looks sane in both sets - am expecting it to.
[01:23] <skaet> then the prior results should be ok.
[01:25] <phillw> skaet: if rafael has released a patch, provided ubuntu don't go break everything again - the artwork will be functional. At least we now know that it was not only lubuntu they broke.
[01:26] <skaet> phillw, who else got affected?
[01:26]  * skaet hasn't seen that info in the channel...
[01:29] <skaet> phillw - new images for desktop (including powerpc) are up on the tracker now.
[01:30] <phillw> skaet: OpenSuse was brought down with it, the Gnome people now realise it is a bug on there side
[01:31] <skaet> phillw,  thanks.
[01:33] <phillw> (20:44:59) rafaellaguna: new information arrived just now about the solution, iI'll work on it during the day and hope it work
[01:33] <phillw> (20:45:21) rafaellaguna: confirmed: it seems an error  on GTK modules translating HEX colour codes
[01:33] <phillw> (20:46:04) rafaellaguna: it's already declared on bugzilla, and Gnome boys are aware of that
[01:33] <phillw> (20:46:28) rafaellaguna: see you tomorrow, guys :)
[01:33] <phillw> our meeting for lubuntu may as well have been a QA meeting :P
[04:36] <skaet> respinning ubuntu images to pick up latest ubiquity and casper fixes.
[05:39] <skaet> ubuntu desktop, alternate, dvd posted now   arm images building.
[05:39] <skaet> edubuntu images building right now,  should be published in next hour.
[05:39] <skaet> highvoltage, stgraber, ^
[05:43] <stgraber> skaet: thanks
[08:05] <jibel> morning everyone
[08:06] <jibel> 2 last minute fixes made it into ISOs
[08:06] <jibel> bug 940908
[08:07] <jibel> bug 942560
[08:07] <jibel> bug 940908: Keyboard layout, oem-config not set on persistent USB image
[08:07] <jibel> bug 942560: keyboard layout screen - Keyboard navigation broken
[08:08]  * jibel hugs stgraber 
[08:09] <jibel> which means that ubuntu alternate, desktop and dvd were respun and need to be tested
[10:08] <gema_> jibel: I was about to start with Ubuntu desktop amd64 and it seems pretty well covered already
[10:08] <gema_> jibel: for today's build
[10:09] <gema_> jibel: do you think it is worth for me to still go through the test cases again, or do I go for alternate or server instead first?
[10:11] <jibel> gema_, server is ok, we need to update the tracker
[10:11] <jibel> gema_, alternate oem on bare-metal would be great
[10:11] <gema_> jibel: ack
[11:08] <gema_> jibel: how do I update my user profile?
[11:08] <gema_> as in, how do I intruduce the hw I use?
[11:09] <jibel> gema_, ENOTIMPLEMENTED
[11:09] <gema_> jibel: so I just ignore the hardware profile url thingie, ok
[11:10] <jibel> gema_, I,ve people pasting the link to a pastebin copy of their harware
[11:11] <jibel> s/I,ve/I've seen
[11:11] <gema_> jibel: ok
[11:11] <jibel> s/harware/hardware
[11:11] <jibel> :)
[11:22] <botfather> hoi gema ;]
[11:22] <gema_> morning botfather !
[11:22] <botfather> dudes  i installed amd64 desktop from usb yesterday and it seems to be ok
[11:23] <gema_> botfather: do you know how to update results?
[11:23] <gema_> botfather: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[11:23] <botfather> my headphone (BT nokia thing) doesnt get its A2DP recognised but it saw there was already a fix in debian i read
[11:23] <botfather> ah ok cool
[11:23] <botfather> just run a script or something ?
[11:23] <botfather> let me read ;]
[11:24] <gema_> haha, it is a website to upload manual testing results
[11:24] <gema_> do you have a launchpad account, botfather ?
[11:25] <botfather> yeah i reactivated it after years ;]
[11:25] <botfather> i dont use bazaar mostely mercurial with me
[11:25] <gema_> cool, so you can log in that iso.qa.ubuntu.com with your launchpad account
[11:25] <gema_> and upload results
[11:25] <botfather> i was thinking running a script locally to test if all things are working and have it automatically uploaded
[11:25] <botfather> hmm
[11:26] <gema_> botfather: yeah, I don't feel very comfy with bazaar either, but that's the default in launchpad
[11:26] <gema_> botfather: that is what we are trying to accomplish with the project I told you about
[11:26] <gema_> botfather: but we are not there yet
[11:26] <botfather> yeah got my bot on launchpad i think but its hard to sync with googlecode
[11:26] <botfather> ow is that project to support local test scripts ?
[11:26] <botfather> like distributed testing or something
[11:27] <botfather> ok let me try to log in
[11:28] <botfather> should i check subscriptions ?
[11:28] <botfather> hmm guess i have to play with it
[11:28] <gema> yes, have a go a it, you get used to it eventually
[11:29] <botfather> well the workflow is not there it seems ;]
[11:30] <botfather> cant seems to find what the site is for etc
[11:30] <gema> botfather:  do you mean the iso qa testing site?
[11:30] <botfather> yes
[11:30] <gema> botfather: let me forward you an email that may clarify things
[11:30] <botfather> gema i mean user are supposed to navigate in this ?
[11:30] <botfather> you need a README or something
[11:31] <botfather> HOWTO ;]
[11:31] <BigWhale> Greetings... Where can I get the latest checkbox-app-testing? Here: ppa:nskaggs/checkbox-app-testing?
[11:31] <gema> botfather: I know, there is one, it is just not obvious
[11:31] <botfather> ah ok yeah
[11:31] <gema> botfather: and you need to be part of a list
[11:31] <botfather> i am
[11:31] <botfather> the qa list
[11:31] <botfather> subscribed yesterday
[11:31] <gema> botfather: I would raise a bug against the tracker to get that linked
[11:31] <botfather> ah true ;]
[11:31] <gema> botfather: ok, it was sent on Monday, so I will forward to you :D
[11:31] <botfather> yeah i got a bit worried yesterday when i saw how huge ubuntu is
[11:32] <gema> botfather: indeed
[11:32] <botfather> all those chat channels and groups and mailinglists
[11:32] <gema> botfather: I know, it can be confusing
[11:32] <botfather> i am a bit of a outsider what huge organisations is concerned ;]
[11:33] <botfather> yeah np though its just to find the right group etc
[11:33] <botfather> already op #ubuntu-bots checking that out a bit
[11:33] <gema> botfather: cool :) good to see you are getting up to speed
[11:33] <botfather> enough to explore which is nice
[11:33] <botfather> yeah
[11:33] <botfather> something new after 3 years or Google Appengine stuff ;]
[11:34] <gema> botfather: welcome aboard :D
[11:34] <botfather> thnx gema ;]
[11:34] <gema> botfather: many things to fix, so you can get ready to find them
[11:34] <botfather> hope i can find my way and be helpfull someday
[11:34] <gema> botfather: you are running tests already, that sounds as very helpful to me
[11:34] <botfather> gema i am mostly interested to push my bot in helping you guys do that work ;]
[11:35] <gema> botfather: looking forward to what you bots can do
[11:35] <botfather> well not test i figured i needed to move to 12.04 from mint (yeah i deserted ;]) back and tried the snapshot yesterday
[11:35] <botfather> gema: it kinda like supybots
[11:36] <botfather> but then on steroids
[11:36] <gema> haha
[11:36] <botfather> hehe
[11:36] <botfather> well i still develop with it
[11:36] <botfather> supy is more kinked out the flesh etc
[11:37] <botfather> most of the time bots are too noisy so they get banned ;]
[11:37] <botfather> mine can do RSS feeds and irccat i you know that
[11:37] <botfather> hugely handy when you need status notifications etc
[11:37] <botfather> for example of finished test runs ;]
[11:38] <gema> yep
[11:38] <gema> botfather: we have some reporting implemented on the tracker
[11:38] <botfather> it can also spider documentation sites and use that spider data to search in for urls pointing to docs
[11:38] <botfather> sorry for my poor sentence construction lol
[11:38] <gema> botfather: that'd be awesome for finding things on our wiki
[11:38] <botfather> yeah
[11:39] <botfather> i could try that out
[11:39] <gema> botfather: ok, please don't bring the whole wiki down! ;)
[11:39] <botfather> what is you wiki stuff and would it be trouble some if i spider that ?
[11:39] <botfather> haha
[11:39] <botfather> spider is 1 req every 5 seconds or so
[11:39] <gema> botfather: I think it is better if you try over the weekend or next week
[11:39] <botfather> takes a while
[11:39] <botfather> ah yes due to beta1
[11:39] <gema> botfather: we are in the middle of a milestone now
[11:39] <botfather> yeah sure
[11:40] <botfather> is a good test case though gema nice
[11:40] <botfather> hmm
[11:40] <gema> botfather: what about next week we have a go at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/
[11:40] <botfather> gonna but the bot online already on jsonbot.org
[11:40] <gema> and have a bot in this channel that can give us pointers to info?
[11:40] <botfather> sure if you give the signal i run the command
[11:41] <botfather> well maybe not this channel
[11:41] <gema> where then?
[11:41] <botfather> i an bit worried about users that complain ;]
[11:41] <botfather> well let make e ubuntu-qatest or something first
[11:41] <gema> ok, let's try it on a different channel for a while
[11:41] <botfather> dunno
[11:41] <botfather> yeah
[11:41] <botfather> well i can put it here sure
[11:41] <botfather> but there are irc master and channel owners etc
[11:41] <botfather> dont want to tred on ppl that already run bots here
[11:42] <botfather> sec i'll make a new user here for this bot
[11:42] <gema> ok
[11:44] <gema> botfather: we can have it on your channel to start with
[11:44] <gema> botfather: and you can do the spidering on monday
[11:44] <gema> or over the weekend if it is an automagic thing
[11:46] <botfather> yeah is ok
[11:46] <botfather> tune in on monday then ?
[11:46] <gema> yep
[11:46] <botfather> jsb: part
[11:46] <jsb> leaving #ubuntu-testing chan
[11:46] <botfather> is there a #ubuntu-qa ?
[11:47] <botfather> ah invite only
[11:47] <botfather> lol
[11:49] <botfather> ububot: join #ubuntu-bottest
[11:49] <ububot> done - join
[11:50] <botfather> ububot: part
[11:50] <ububot> leaving #ubuntu-testing chan
[11:51] <gema> botfather: we tried to consolidate QA here
[11:51] <gema> botfather: and removed all the other QA-test-etc channels
[11:51] <gema> botfather: I am not sure who has #ubuntu-qa now
[11:51] <botfather> yeah
[11:51] <gema> botfather: surely not us
[11:52] <botfather> ow yeah the qa chan
[11:52] <botfather> strange
[11:52] <botfather> let leave this chan for the chan and helping people with questions
[11:52] <botfather> i have the feeling that the bot channel might get floody (with good data that is)
[11:53] <botfather> so the wiki does it do rss ?
[11:53] <botfather> launchpad and rss ?
[11:54] <gema> botfather: I am not sure
[11:54] <gema> botfather: I have enough problems trying to find what I look for, it didn't occur to me I could rss myself to the madness
[11:54] <gema> of neverending changes
[11:55] <gema> it surely has ways of subscribing to changes and it sends you emails
[11:56] <botfather> i watch my whole world on RSS ;]
[11:56] <botfather> mailman rss hmmm
[12:04] <botfather> gema: jenkins has rss feeds
[12:04] <botfather> trying out the All feed now ;]
[12:05] <gema> botfather: go for it
[12:05] <botfather> how often are these tests run ?
[12:05] <botfather> well i will see
[12:06] <gema> botfather: lunchtime for me
[12:06] <gema> talk to you guys later
[12:07] <botfather> k eetze ;]
[12:07] <botfather> ltrs i mean
[12:41] <pkulas> Hey I'm running the latest Beta 1 candidate, is that normal that it use 2.5GB of ram with xchat only running ?
[12:42] <gema> pkulas: no, it is not
[12:42] <gema> pkulas: by candidate, you mean today's build?
[12:42] <pkulas> gema: yes
[12:42] <gema> pkulas: please, raise a bug
[12:42] <gema> pkulas: and give us the number so that we can make sure it get's treated
[12:42] <gema> soon
[12:43] <gema> jibel: do we have a bug for that already?
[12:44] <pkulas> Ok I will try
[13:07] <jibel> which process uses memory  ?
[13:07] <jibel> which process uses memory  ?
[13:11] <botfather>  1497 bart      20   0 1894m 424m  50m S    7  5.3  14:13.53 compiz
[13:11] <botfather> thats the culprit maybe ?
[13:11] <botfather> not sure whats normal on that part
[13:18] <gema> oh, he's gone offilne
[13:18] <gema> offline
[13:19] <gema> jibel: sorry, I think I scared pkulas
[13:22] <botfather> ah yes missed him leaving
[13:22] <botfather> hmm
[13:22] <botfather> ow wait now iam confused i should learn to read ;]
[13:37] <gema> :)
[13:37] <jibel> any one want to test a chinese desktop installation ?
[13:37] <gema> I think we missed the chinese already
[13:37] <gema> jibel: if you had said that this morning at 9 I would have found someone :D
[13:38] <botfather> can we test using just usb drives ?
[13:38] <botfather> thinking about getting a fast one just todo tests
[13:38] <botfather> hmm
[13:38] <jibel> botfather, you can test the live session. that doesn't requires any installation at all
[13:39] <botfather> brainstorming outloud mostely ;]
[13:39] <botfather> yeah i tried that yesterday
[13:39] <botfather> works good
[13:39] <botfather> burning the usb drive was a bit of a trouble
[13:39] <botfather> unetboot to the rescue or how that program was called
[13:40] <botfather> jibel: is was just think like you are asking for a chinese test .. i pop in the usb drive test the live on that or something ?
[13:40] <botfather> or can i use virtualbox
[13:40] <botfather> hmm maybe i should install that first
[13:41] <gema> botfather: we need someone that can actually validate that the chinese letters say the right thing
[13:41] <botfather> ah yes ;]
[13:41] <gema> and follow the install in chinese, as well
[13:41] <gema> botfather: do you speak chinese?
[13:41] <botfather> yeah true didnt think of that
[13:41] <botfather> haha no ;]
[13:41] <gema> :)
[13:41] <botfather> i ching mostely ;]
[13:41] <gema> ;)
[13:42] <botfather> i dont know if there is transfer speed difference between usb drives
[13:43] <jibel> gema, no necessarily. testing that the input method works after install is already a good thing even without understanding the meaning
[13:43] <botfather> like it takes 10 min on my core i7 box to burn a usb drive
[13:44] <botfather> surely if i can burn a drive in 1 min i could easily test a lot of installations on my local box without needed to overwrite my host
[13:44] <gema> then, by all means, botfather , have a go
[13:45] <botfather> gema i hold this drive with ubuntu 12.4 on it so i have backup
[13:45] <botfather> hehe
[13:45] <botfather> gonna check this next week though
[13:45] <botfather> hmm
[13:45] <botfather> do we still have till next week for beta1 ?
[13:46] <botfather> or is the release dat flexible etc
[13:46] <botfather> sorry dudes and dudines i just dont know enough about ubuntu's workings
[13:46] <gema> botfather: the beta week is this one, so we will chose a build either today or tomorrow the very latest
[13:47] <botfather> ah yes
[13:47] <gema> we will go around another testing round at release time
[13:47] <botfather> ok i can test now i guess
[13:47] <gema> let me find the calendar for you
[13:47] <botfather> ah yeah
[13:47] <botfather> normal i looked at the debian freese date ;]
[13:47] <gema> you can always test, we have builds every day, and it is very much appreciated
[13:47] <botfather> yeah i tried yesterday snapshot
[13:47] <botfather> am running it now like it !
[13:48] <gema> botfather: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[13:48] <botfather> its good got my keyboard shortcuts and the 8 workspaces i have
[13:48] <botfather> gema thnx ;]
[13:48] <gema> botfather: for future ref: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule
[13:48] <jibel> beta 1 will be released today
[13:48] <botfather> can't wait to spider that stuff ;]
[13:49] <phillw> the results for the .1 lubuntu are trickling in. seems a big thumbs up :)
[13:49] <gema> jibel: so the build we have now is the super-candidate, right?
[13:49] <gema> it works pretty nicely at a first glance
[13:49] <gema> which is all I managed to do this morning :(
[13:49] <botfather> so the working window is 2 weeks ?
[13:49] <botfather> hmm
[13:50] <gema> beta 2 is the next challenge, I guess
[13:51] <gema> which is the week of march 29th
[13:51] <botfather> yeah but freeze is week before or so
[13:51] <gema> yes, freeze means people have to stop submitting
[13:51] <botfather> 22
[13:51] <botfather> yeah
[13:51] <gema> but normally they try to sneak in so much stuff that they break the builds
[13:51] <botfather> i was checking what the working window is for commits
[13:51] <jibel> gema, right, unless last minute show stopper arises
[13:51] <botfather> changes
[13:52] <gema> botfather: jibel: ack
[13:53] <botfather> the report the crash type of thing seems to work ok as well
[13:53] <botfather> well it seems to detect what crash it was and redirect me to the launchpad entry
[13:53] <botfather> which is what i say nicely done ;]
[13:53] <botfather> nifty !
[13:56] <botfather> 12.04.1 is 2 and a half months after LTS release
[13:56] <botfather> the windows seem reasonable
[14:02] <botfather> jibel: you still need the chinese stuff to be tested ?
[14:03] <botfather> i guess i got give the live usb thing a try
[14:04] <botfather> and i wonder if something like "spotify linux client" doesnt work on ubuntu be reason for a showstopper ?
[14:04] <botfather> first i need to eat though bbl
[14:06] <jibel> botfather, yep, test case is there http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/NonEnglishLanguage#Installation%20Full%20Network%20Support%20&%20CJK%20Input
[14:06] <jibel> test case nen-004
[14:08] <stgraber> hey jibel!
[14:08] <stgraber> so did I break anything with my fixes this time or does it all look good?
[14:08] <jibel> morning stgraber
[14:11] <jibel> stgraber, heh
[14:11] <jibel> stgraber, looks good
[14:11] <jibel> stgraber, that are great last minute fixes
[14:12] <stgraber> cool!
[14:12] <stgraber> and thanks for testing Edubuntu
[14:12] <stgraber> I'm still going to do another quick run but it's good to know it looks good for now
[14:16] <botfather> jibel: ok sorry that test is a bit over my head i think
[14:16] <botfather> etoostoned
[14:16] <botfather> hmm
[14:17] <jibel> botfather, no problem, i'll do it. it seems broken anyway
[14:17] <botfather> needs bare metal no ? or can this be done on the usb live
[14:17] <botfather> Select Erase and use the entire disk and click Forward
[14:17] <botfather> things like that
[14:17] <jibel> vms is good for this test
[14:17] <botfather> what vms ?
[14:18] <botfather> new to all this testing frantic ;]
[14:18] <botfather> what is vms i mean
[14:19] <jibel> Virtual Machines, sorry
[14:21] <botfather> ah yes
[14:22] <botfather> got the hint so installed virtual box
[14:22] <botfather> what iso should i use ?
[14:22] <botfather> ah well
[14:22] <botfather> its broken so
[14:22] <botfather> dont think you are going to stop the beta over it
[14:23] <botfather> i use the snapshow from yesterday
[14:40] <botfather> ububot: part
[14:40] <ububot> leaving #ubuntu-testing chan
[14:46] <botfather> jibel: gema was right .. it is impossible to navigate the chinese installation stuff
[14:47] <botfather> have no clue what i'd be clicking on
[14:48] <jibel> botfather, that's ok, I did it and found a bug. bug 944035
[14:48] <botfather> haha cool
[14:48] <botfather> so does launchpad have a API ?
[14:48] <botfather> could i write a bot plugin to query for that bug ?
[14:51] <botfather> launchpadlib !
[14:51] <botfather> cool its python as well
[14:52] <botfather> LGPL as well !!! good news day today ;]
[14:55] <jibel> botfather, there is usually a bot on this channel. but looks like it is on vacations
[14:57] <botfather> supybot thing ?
[14:57] <botfather> hmm
[14:57] <jibel> jpds, are you the bot master for this channel ?
[14:58] <jibel> botfather, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[14:59] <botfather> yeah i looked at it last night
[14:59] <botfather> most of the bots are supybots
[15:01] <botfather> quess i need to be on #ubuntu-irc
[15:03] <phillw> on installing the ppc images, when selecting guided partioning, an extra swap partition and boot partition are created. Is that a bug against ubiquity or gparted?
[15:38] <phillw> Hi folks, when reporting  a bug the tracker asks for a URL link to hardware profile. How does one create one?
[15:39] <jibel> phillw, it is supposed to be a ubuntu friendly url
[15:42] <phillw> jibel I don't know how to explain to the guy how to translate " precise-alternate-powerpc.iso         01-Mar-2012 00:39   653M  Alternate install CD for Mac (PowerPC) and IBM-PPC  (POWER5) computers (standard download)" into a friendly URL?
[15:44] <phillw> can he just describe his hardware (e.g. G3 PowerBook) ?
[15:49] <jibel> phillw, you can put the description in the comment field
[15:50] <jibel> phillw, I've see testers pasting there setup on pastebin and put the URL in the hw profile field
[15:50] <jibel> s/there/their
[15:50] <phillw> jibel ahh, thanks I'll suggest both to him :)
[15:51] <jibel> phillw, just for reference https://friendly.ubuntu.com/ is where the profiles should come from
[15:53] <phillw> thanks, not many Macs on that list.
[15:56] <jibel> phillw, another example with a link to a wiki page http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FabioMarconi/Lshw-asrock
[15:58] <phillw> there are no critical bugs on the lubuntu releases save for G3's on ppc (it works okay with G4's). As I mentioned to Riddell with such a mad rush, getting them to test rather than teaching them the 'correct' way to use iso tracker was my priority. I'll pen some instructions up for the guys detailing the very basics for them and stick it on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing area so that they can just quickly find the basics.
[15:59] <phillw> ahh, so an lshw pastebinned up will be okay?
[16:46] <bdmurray> GrueMaster: so you encountered bug 924456 again?  Do you have any more information?
[16:47] <GrueMaster> I did?  I must have mistyped in the tracker.  Let me check.
[16:47] <bdmurray> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/208/builds/12804/testcases/1169/results
[16:48] <GrueMaster> Sorry.  firefox auto-fill.
[16:48] <GrueMaster> (and late night testing).
[16:49] <GrueMaster> Fixed the tracker.
[16:49] <bdmurray> and maybe we should just close the bug?
[16:49] <GrueMaster> Sure.
[16:50] <GrueMaster> Actually, there are a lot of open bugs that have been fixed.  Most of them with specific fixes, but the uploaders didn't reference them or update LP.  Leaves me with a large list to clean up.
[16:53] <GrueMaster> bug 626055 is another example.
[17:16] <phillw> Riddell: hmm, one of the testers did 6 installs covering the permutations of amd64, i386 and the three methods of partitioning... BUT it was not with the .1 release :( He was using the desktop iso's. Do they now all need repeating or do they count as the .1 was respun for a liveCD issue?
[17:17] <Riddell> skaet: ^^
[17:20] <skaet> phillw, Riddell,  don't think any of the changes since then should have affected it significantly,  results should still be useful.
[17:22] <skaet> phillw,  is there a bug for the powerpc not working on the G3?
[17:27] <phillw> yeah, the ppc guys state that it appears to only affect a G3 - but we only have one G3 equipped tester, the others use G4s :/
[17:29] <skaet> phillw,  so you think its safe for ppc G4, as long as we release note that G3 users should not try the image?  can you give me a bug number?
[17:32] <phillw> skaet: he's another very new tester. I'll reply to his email and explain how to raise a bug, will it be against ubiquity?
[17:33] <skaet> phillw,  depends on the symptoms he's seeing...   assign it to the component that seems most logical, and it can always get updated to the correct one as we learn more later.
[17:35] <phillw> skaet: Lubuntu precise-alternate-powerpc.iso 20120301
[17:35] <phillw> G4 eMac - guided, entire disk - installs and runs
[17:35] <phillw> G3 iMac -  guided, entire disk - installs, but boots to command prompt following install
[17:41] <phillw> skaet: also, while I'm in the ppc area of emails.... on installing the ppc images, when selecting guided partioning, an extra swap partition and boot partition are created. Is that a bug against ubiquity or gparted?
[17:41] <phillw> it is a non-critical bug as it still installs - just with two extra partitions!
[17:42] <skaet> thanks phillw.
[17:42] <skaet> bdmurray ^ what's the best way to capture the above into a bug?
[17:42] <wxl> phillw: have you personally verified that bug?
[18:01] <bdmurray> for the g3 rerun the install and at the end of the install run ubuntu-bug ubiquity to get the log files from the install
[18:02] <bdmurray> then a picture of the boot failure and probably dmesg from the "command prompt"
[18:02] <bdmurray> extra partitions would be a bug about ubiquity
[18:11] <phillw> wxl: nope, I'm going to ask that further testing is carried out on it.
[18:11] <phillw> It's possible the guys haven't checked their hard drives to confirm that the extra partitions are being created.
[18:34] <skaet> phillw,   not seeing much testing on amd64+mac mode - was it checked out as ok?  or no testers on that one?
[18:41] <MrChrisDruif> skaet; I guess the latter
[18:43] <skaet> Thanks MrChrisDruif - we'll hold back on publishing that one then.  but put out the rest.
[18:43] <MrChrisDruif> skaet; when I reread your sentence I was confounded
[18:44] <MrChrisDruif> skaet; Is PPC available in i386 & amd64? I thought PPC was a separate ...thing...(can't think of the word right now) then i386 & amd64?
[18:44] <skaet> sorry MrChrisDruif,  not meaning to be confusing,  just typing a bit to quickly...
[18:44] <MrChrisDruif> skaet; Or did you mean the intel based Mac?
[18:45] <skaet> MrChrisDruif,  doesn't look like anyone's tested on the intel based Mac's,  we do have testing on the PowerPC based Mac's that seems reasonable for this stage,  so the images for lubuntu being published are,  amd64, i386, ppc.
[18:46] <MrChrisDruif> Yes, that is true skaet ^_^
[18:55] <phillw> skaet: I am not aware of any testers for that species
[18:57] <skaet> Thank phillw,  btw - do you remember the upstream bug number for the upstream unico bug you stumbled into.  Mythbuntu has likely encountered it too..
[18:58] <phillw> skaet: I've just had an email from Rafael (our artwork guy) re: GTK
[18:58] <phillw> Boys and girls, just writing for inform you that the bug is now  confirmed by Launchpad janitor, so from now it's a bug on GTK3 libs  affecting also Ubuntu and Xubuntu users (QT from Kubuntu is, obviously  free). You can follow this bug:
[18:58] <phillw> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/943682 
[18:59] <skaet> Thanks phillw  :)
[18:59] <phillw> I'm not sure if there is one for Unico, but I can check with Rafael if you wish.
[19:20] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[19:46] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha PaoloRotolo
[19:50] <PaoloRotolo> hi :)
[19:56] <phillw> skaet: you should have mail re: Unico, I don't have your personal email address so sent it to the qa-team ML (It may be of interest to others also).
[19:57] <skaet> thanks phillw
[20:51] <phillw> skaet: OOoooh, I have an iso tester for intel-Mac, too late for beta 1, but he is going to try both the dailies and build up for beta 2 :)
[20:51] <skaet> phillw - great! :D
[20:56] <phillw> Is it assumed that if Wubi works for the ubuntu iso, it will work for the lubuntu one?
[21:03] <AlanBell> balloons: can you help me merge in my checkbox test case?
[21:04] <balloons> AlanBell! in my crazy world of this week I had forgotten
[21:04] <balloons> sure I can merge your tests
[21:04] <balloons> i was just putting out the annoucement
[21:04] <AlanBell> balloons: thats fine, I tried and I messed it up
[21:05] <balloons> sure
[21:05] <AlanBell> https://code.launchpad.net/~alanbell/checkbox/orca-test/+merge/95458
[21:05] <balloons> https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/checkbox/checkbox-app-testing/+register-merge
[21:05] <AlanBell> I don't think it is merging onto the right branch
[21:05] <balloons> ohh
[21:05] <balloons> right.. nope, merge onto the branchI linked to you
[21:05] <balloons> try that real quick
[21:08] <roadmr> AlanBell, balloons : let me know if the merging thing gives you trouble
[21:08] <AlanBell> that looks a lot better
[21:08] <balloons> AlanBell, trying to merge lp:~alanbell/checkbox/orca-test right now.. looks like it worked fine
[21:09] <AlanBell> great
[21:09] <balloons> thanks for writing the tests!
[21:09] <roadmr> AlanBell: mind if I reject the merge you requested on lp:checkbox? :) (just to keep things tidy)
[21:10] <AlanBell> roadmr: I just deleted that proposal
[21:10] <roadmr> AlanBell: even better, thanks!
[21:10] <AlanBell> Pendulum: orca test case is in
[21:10] <AlanBell> it is a bit scrappy in places, but I guess we can improve that later
[21:11] <Pendulum> AlanBell: great!
[21:15] <balloons> AlanBell, what package contains orca?
[21:16] <balloons> i'm setting the required package for the test
[21:17] <AlanBell> gnome-orca
[21:17] <AlanBell> it is installed by default
[21:18] <balloons> kk.. just cleaning up the tests to make sure everything is still working
[21:18] <balloons> then i'll push to the ppa
[21:21] <balloons> roadmr, ohh no.. your fix for the regex is giving errors :-(
[21:21] <balloons> 2012-03-01 16:19:34,738 INFO     Running command:  shopt -s extglob
[21:21] <balloons>  cat $CHECKBOX_APP_TESTING_SHARE/jobs/softwarecenter.txt?(.in)
[21:21] <balloons> 2012-03-01 16:19:34,748 DEBUG                Started firing message-result.
[21:21] <balloons> 2012-03-01 16:19:34,748 DEBUG                Calling /usr/share/checkbox/plugins/message_info.py MessageInfo.message_result(fail, /bin/sh: 1: shopt: not found
[21:21] <balloons> /bin/sh: 2: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[21:22] <balloons> let me see if i can fix quickly
[21:22] <roadmr> balloons: argh :(
[21:22] <balloons> don't worry'
[21:23] <balloons> it's likely me, remember? ;-)
[21:23] <roadmr> balloons: is this in 0.4.15?
[21:23] <balloons> your fix?
[21:23] <balloons> no
[21:23] <balloons> just in branch
[21:23] <roadmr> balloons: what happens if you type "shopt" on a terminal? it should spew out a list of settings
[21:23] <balloons> not in published code
[21:23] <balloons> nothing blows up on my bnox
[21:23] <balloons> amazingly
[21:24] <roadmr> really? wow.. using bash?
[21:27] <balloons> yes roadmr it spits out the settings
[21:27] <balloons> lol.. didn't mean to say otherwise
[21:27] <roadmr> balloons: very strange :( let me try a local run, maybe my changes are bogus :(
[21:28] <balloons> i just pushed things up
[21:31] <balloons> hmm.. yea, gutting that makes everything happy
[21:32] <balloons> i'm going to roll without it for now
[21:32] <balloons> so i can get it pushed to the ppa
[21:36] <balloons> i take that back.. orca's not showing :-(
[21:37] <balloons> whoops.. typo.. there they are :-0
[21:47] <balloons> AlanBell, new build with orca is pending in ppa.. should be up momentairly
[21:48] <balloons> are you still about?
[21:48] <AlanBell> yay
[21:48] <balloons> I would ask you to confirm you can run thru and submit a test quickly.. to make sure nothing got broken by the changes...
[21:48] <balloons> http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/RunningCheckboxTestCases
[21:48] <AlanBell> ok
[21:49] <balloons> thx much!
[22:00] <balloons> rofl.. the slashdot posts.. jriddell lookslike he has an account there
[22:41] <jibel> Precise Beta 1 released \o/
[22:41] <jibel> Many thanks to utlemming, stgraber, GrueMaster, gregfaith, ke1ha, Riddell, lbsolost, njin, yofel, ptn107, mcblackmar02, claudio.arseni, sfarnedi, pitti, SpamapS, jamespage, Tiranno, alessiogrossosgarrillo, bulldog98, larsnooden, roignac, weljor, danyubuntuone, Letozaf_, Zagorax, knome, irihapeti, primes2h, PaoloRotolo, didrocks, jp_Hranice, Fo5150, totopalma, ScottL, andymc73test, ojordan12345, xdatap1, dsmythies, unit193, charlie-tca, gema, supe
[22:41] <jibel> rm1, irenebonta, brendand, moteprime, kidsodateless, ogra, phillw, new.life, gjditchfield, thermatk, mterry, bkerensa, dduffey, davmor2, NESSuno, civil-bigpond, kaiserclaudius, bill_gaag, luigitanese, ScottK, mahmoh, NightSilent, Soupermanito and oskar-kirmis for testing the ISOs.
[22:41] <balloons> YAYAY!
[22:41] <balloons> awesome work everyone
[22:42] <GrueMaster> And there was much rejoicing (yay).
[22:45] <yofel> \o/
[22:47] <phillw> jibel would it be possible to add a generic 'lubuntu testers' to that? they are still learning about how to do it 'officially'.
[22:49] <phillw> I co-ordinated and translated their emails into test results, going back and asking for clarification from them where needed.
[22:50] <phillw> I'll spend the next week or so, getting them up to speed on how iso tracker works... I promise :)
[23:52] <phillw> does anyone here have a really fast broad band speed that I can just check for a download speed? when I popped the lubuntu iso's on for a confirmation of md5 I was getting ~7Mb/s upload, but a guy has told me he is only getting ~1.5 MB/s back on down load - The server is on a 100MB/s link and I will go and complain if this is true!
[23:52] <phillw> the test file is at http://www.thesii.org/lubuntu-12.04-beta1-alternate-amd64.iso
[23:53] <phillw> and, yes, it is just the beta iso I uploaded earlier ... no mal ware :)
[23:56] <stgraber> phillw: checking
[23:56] <phillw> thanks
[23:57] <stgraber> I seem to have an average of 11.2MB/s from it
[23:57] <phillw> stgraber: thanks, that seems reasonable speed, but 1.5 ?!!!!
[23:58] <stgraber> 2012-03-01 23:57:53 (11.2 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [674541568/674541568]
[23:59] <phillw> stgraber: It is just I have always made the final confirmed iso for lubuntu available to a few people that I know will torrent it.