| Pheetard | hey all | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| Pheetard | i've jst come back to ubntu (oneric) after a few years back in windows (7, since beta), and it sure is different from how i remember it (intrepid). not jst the interface, i mean i knew about gnome3/unity, but what happened to xorg.conf? | 00:06 |
| Pheetard | it seems to have been replaced by some kind of automagic configuration | 00:07 |
| Pheetard | which is annoying, because i want to change the graphics driver on my laptop (Gallium's giving me god-awful 3d performance on this laptop's Radeon X1200) but can't find any way to manually configure xorg's video driver | 00:13 |
| Pheetard | is there a way to tell it to use "radeon" instead of "gallim3d" does anyone know? | 00:17 |
| ali1234 | just make an Xorg.conf | 00:17 |
| ali1234 | it still works | 00:17 |
| ali1234 | it just isn't needed by default | 00:17 |
| Pheetard | oh, right | 00:18 |
| ali1234 | if you install the fglrx driver it makes an xorg.conf | 00:18 |
| ali1234 | then you can edit it however you want | 00:18 |
| ali1234 | well, it used to anyway | 00:18 |
| Pheetard | if it does it by magic, can i just write one from scratch with just the sections i want to customise? | 00:23 |
| ali1234 | probably, if you know how to do that | 00:27 |
| ali1234 | you can have very minimal configs | 00:27 |
| Pheetard | excellent | 00:29 |
| Pheetard | thanks very much | 00:29 |
| Pheetard | =D | 00:29 |
| Azelphur | hell yes, hit 1.8ghz on my phone (800mhz stock), got Android 4 ICS installed, and It's running Ubuntu 12.04 NATIVE. | 02:24 |
| * Azelphur hugs his phone | 02:25 | |
| === opt1mus is now known as Aeuthanasius | ||
| === Aeuthanasius is now known as opt1mus | ||
| daubers | Morning | 07:14 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 07:46 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | morning all | 07:48 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Just got a notification from Farnell, my Pis will be later than 1st indicated, now saying w/c 23/04/12... | 07:49 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: I have an order confirmation email from Farnell | 07:49 |
| MartijnVdS | but it's not showing up on their 'Order history' page | 07:49 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | My order is there - just says "Processing". Hey ho. Am not unhappy about waiting. | 07:51 |
| MartijnVdS | Hm. I'll send them an email. | 07:52 |
| MartijnVdS | If it's not in their systems, I might just wait for the frenzy to calm down a bit | 07:52 |
| popey | hah, just noticed my order has changed from 2 to 1 pi | 08:00 |
| DJones | Morning | 08:01 |
| MooDoo | morning | 08:02 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | popey: Mine too, but still showing the price for 2 :-( | 08:09 |
| bigcalm[xoom] | Ahoy :) | 08:24 |
| DJones | still no VM bigcalm[xoom] ? | 08:25 |
| * popey wonders if czajkowski is in the office | 08:27 | |
| awilkins | Getting a new work-issue laptop today. Deeply inconvenient, mostly because it's Windows and will have to reinstall 100 or so packages (probably lazily on demand, but still an overhead) | 08:28 |
| * MartijnVdS shouts at the NetworkManager OpenVPN plugin | 08:29 | |
| MartijnVdS | WHY doesn't it work with the OpenVPN server at work? | 08:29 |
| MooDoo | awilkins: your getting a laptop for free? | 08:29 |
| awilkins | No name : whats the issue? | 08:29 |
| awilkins | No name : they're replacing the one I have | 08:29 |
| * daubers drinks coffee | 08:29 | |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: "No name"? | 08:30 |
| awilkins | That's what's showing as your nick in my client | 08:30 |
| daubers | MartijnVdS: You are the man with no name... | 08:30 |
| MartijnVdS | I am!? | 08:30 |
| === MartijnVdS is now known as MartijnVdS2 | ||
| === MartijnVdS2 is now known as MartijnVdS | ||
| MartijnVdS | better? | 08:30 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: ^ | 08:31 |
| DJones | it must be awilkins client, it shows fine as MartijnVdS for me | 08:31 |
| awilkins | No, but this is a crappy IRC client | 08:31 |
| awilkins | You're all No name | 08:31 |
| MartijnVdS | obviously ;) | 08:31 |
| daubers | \o/ we can throw insults without being identified | 08:31 |
| awilkins | N900 built in one | 08:31 |
| MooDoo | it's wierd as well awilkins as i see your password too, it's showing up as ******** ;) lol | 08:31 |
| MooDoo | daubers: i see you :) lol | 08:32 |
| daubers | MooDoo: Shhhhhhhh! | 08:32 |
| awilkins | Arrgh. Oh well, the crappy mobile coverage will override th crappy client soon | 08:32 |
| awilkins | Tunnel! | 08:34 |
| bigcalm[xoom] | Heh | 08:36 |
| awilkins | Now his name I see. | 08:36 |
| bigcalm[xoom] | I never thought that being without a internet connection would actually be depressing | 08:38 |
| christel | :o | 08:38 |
| MartijnVdS | Are there still dial-up BBSes? Try one of those ;) | 08:38 |
| bigcalm[xoom] | Goodness knows what I would feel like if I wasn't on medication | 08:38 |
| daubers | bigcalm[xoom]: Seriously, just change provider | 08:39 |
| daubers | Or get a USB mobile broadband dongle? | 08:39 |
| popey | bigcalm[xoom]: you're not complaining at VM enough ☺ | 08:40 |
| daubers | bigcalm[xoom]: Go sit on their front door with a placard | 08:40 |
| bigcalm[xoom] | I have my phone, but I need it shared for my lan. 'Just change provider' is not an easy option | 08:41 |
| daubers | "Wantz interwebz plz!" | 08:41 |
| bigcalm[xoom] | If my router had a usb socket I would be able to do what pope has done | 08:42 |
| popey | bigcalm[xoom]: surely your phone can be an access point? | 08:42 |
| bigcalm[xoom] | popey: yes, but not all of my systems have wifi. For the one project I'm having to run 3 separate machines | 08:43 |
| bigcalm[xoom] | Running dd-wrt, can I connect the router to my phone via wifi and then distribute it via the wired connections? | 08:46 |
| czajkowski | popey: I am | 08:49 |
| czajkowski | popey: where are you? | 08:49 |
| popey | cool | 08:49 |
| popey | heading in shortly | 08:49 |
| czajkowski | sitting where I was before | 08:50 |
| czajkowski | well before I moved | 08:50 |
| bigcalm[xoom]| | Eta now set to 9am tomorrow. | 08:52 |
| * bigcalm[xoom]| goes to hang himself | 08:52 | |
| bigcalm[xoom]| | But first, a cuppa tea | 08:52 |
| diplo | bigcalm[xoom], If they fail to get it working again, how about asking them to send you out a dongle FOC ? They are a provider now as well | 09:29 |
| JamesTait | Happy St David's Day, everyone! I'm not about to attempt to type Welsh.... :D | 09:31 |
| MooDoo | Dydd Gwyl Dewi Hapus I Chi Gyd | 09:31 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: would you like to buy a vowel? | 09:31 |
| MooDoo | lol | 09:32 |
| dwatkins | heh, RS said they experienced 'the greatest level of demand RS has ever received for a product at one time' | 09:33 |
| * oimon is looking at windows8 preview - am i right in thinking, that's mainly the metro interface, and windows will still be the same if you actually want to use windows? | 09:34 | |
| dwatkins | oimon: isn't that normally the case with Windows? I gather there were some improvements with Windows 7, but XP isn't hugely different as far as I'm aware. | 09:35 |
| oimon | i can only see metro interface being used in pc world | 09:35 |
| oimon | the metro stuff looks very touch friendly and not much else | 09:36 |
| oimon | (or xbox controller) | 09:36 |
| directhex | oimon, yes it's mainly metro | 09:47 |
| directhex | e.g. the metro start menu is the only start menu | 09:47 |
| directhex | all apps in the app store must be metro | 09:47 |
| oimon | directhex, what does that mean ? | 09:50 |
| oimon | "all apps in the app store must be metro" | 09:50 |
| directhex | oimon, the first icon in the start menu is for the microsoft app store | 09:50 |
| directhex | it only sells metro apps, i.e. fullscreen ones with a metro tile using the metro toolkits. not "real" windows apps running in desktop mode | 09:51 |
| gord | i need to replace my windows 7 start menu button with "steam.exe" | 09:51 |
| oimon | sounds like they are trying to reduce it to a tablet OS then | 09:51 |
| diplo | Aren't they also introducing a new FS with Win8 ? | 09:54 |
| hoover | morning all | 09:55 |
| hoover | diplo: don't think so... still NTFS | 09:55 |
| AlanBell | there is a new one | 09:55 |
| diplo | http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/01/16/building-the-next-generation-file-system-for-windows-refs.aspx | 09:55 |
| diplo | ReFS | 09:55 |
| diplo | let’s not forget that NTFS is by far the industry’s leading technology for file systems on PCs. :D | 09:56 |
| hoover | diplo: probably pure vapourware... they've tried before ;-) | 09:57 |
| diplo | yeah, well they were supposed to introduce with Vista if i remember correctly | 09:58 |
| diplo | So they have had a fair few years to get it right | 09:58 |
| oimon | windicators | 10:15 |
| oimon | woops, did i say that out loud? | 10:15 |
| === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial | ||
| oimon | i just discovered that the ability to lend kindle books is restrcited to US only :( | 10:17 |
| oimon | sucks a bundle. i thought that was a supported feature in the UK | 10:18 |
| oimon | my mum has three books to lend me. if she bougt them IRL (at the same price), she would be able to do that | 10:18 |
| mattt | seen a few people in here trying to get Linux industry experience | 10:20 |
| mattt | my employer has some very junior positions open, feel free to ping me directly if anyone's interested | 10:20 |
| mattt | (based in west london) | 10:20 |
| gord | (you'll be making the coffee ;)) | 10:22 |
| oimon | my employer has some more experienced positions open too | 10:26 |
| mattt | gord: there may be some coffee making required :D | 10:26 |
| diplo | If only you all were more towards the SW :) | 10:26 |
| oimon | although requires an all rounder rather than exclusively linux | 10:26 |
| gord | i wonder if i could employ an unpaid intern to make me coffee... | 10:28 |
| mattt | gord: put it out there, you may get a bite | 10:29 |
| oimon | nespresso? | 10:29 |
| gord | "Joy entails going in to town, picking up some coffee to go and coming back. if the coffee is cold, you are fired" | 10:30 |
| mattt | they don't even have to make it? | 10:31 |
| mattt | should be no bother finding someone | 10:31 |
| gord | why would i trust my coffee quality to an unpaid intern? | 10:31 |
| gord | i want someone that is paid to make it | 10:31 |
| mattt | ha | 10:32 |
| mattt | the logic is there | 10:32 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 10:38 |
| MooDoo | morning | 10:40 |
| brobostigon | morning MooDoo | 10:41 |
| popey | Morning chaps | 10:45 |
| brobostigon | morning popey | 10:45 |
| mattt | morning | 10:47 |
| brobostigon | morning mattt | 10:47 |
| gord | weirdest thing is happening with my phone today... it keeps speaking japanese at me then when i pick it up to figure out why and unlock, it suddenly stops | 10:53 |
| MartijnVdS | gord: H4x0red? | 10:53 |
| gord | i doubt it, prolly just some application being weird | 10:54 |
| oimon | does anyone have problems unmaximising certain windows in unity? i can't get focus without a few clicks sometimes and drag to unmaxmimise stops too | 11:14 |
| davmor2 | morning funksters | 11:15 |
| davmor2 | no bigcalm | 11:15 |
| davmor2 | morning MooDoo | 11:15 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: prod! | 11:15 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: good morning to you | 11:16 |
| gord | oimon, on what unity? O? | 11:17 |
| oimon | 11.10 gord | 11:17 |
| gord | weird | 11:17 |
| davmor2 | oimon: nope just you | 11:17 |
| oimon | hurry up april | 11:17 |
| czajkowski | oimon: yes I cant unmaximise a terminal | 11:18 |
| czajkowski | I end up having to kill it | 11:18 |
| oimon | czajkowski, eww | 11:18 |
| oimon | sort of similar | 11:18 |
| czajkowski | cant find the min max boxes | 11:18 |
| oimon | although clicking a fw times gives me focus. doesn't always happen | 11:18 |
| oimon | czajkowski, yeah, nor the title | 11:18 |
| oimon | ok just got it in thunderbird. | 11:19 |
| oimon | clicking the panel doesn't work, but click the app works to gain focus | 11:19 |
| czajkowski | damit launcher crashed again | 11:19 |
| czajkowski | >:( | 11:19 |
| oimon | i have 2 screens | 11:19 |
| oimon | now it's behainvg again | 11:19 |
| oimon | czajkowski, have you disabled global menu? | 11:20 |
| czajkowski | nope it just happens and I can relaunch it and start again | 11:20 |
| gord | czajkowski, just the launcher crashed? | 11:22 |
| gord | are you guys using 2d? | 11:22 |
| czajkowski | gord: nope | 11:23 |
| czajkowski | gord: have to kill all apps that I had running to resrt them as they wont launch from the launcher | 11:23 |
| * mattt renames #ubuntu-uk to #ubuntu-uk-qa | 11:24 | |
| czajkowski | mattt: um... this is what locoteams are for | 11:25 |
| * mattt sits back and gets lectured | 11:25 | |
| czajkowski | gord: alt tabbing through the apps wont show all apps that have been launched if there is a crash after happening | 11:25 |
| czajkowski | mattt: nobody is lecturing just pointing out what the channel is for and not the need to set up another one | 11:26 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: he is aware of that one I showed him at the co working day | 11:26 |
| czajkowski | aye there are non loco channels | 11:26 |
| czajkowski | ubuntu-TEAM/PROJECT | 11:27 |
| * mattt got scolded | 11:27 | |
| czajkowski | not ubuntu-ISO code for locoteams | 11:27 |
| mattt | czajkowski: i'm just kidding around, ignore me | 11:27 |
| popey | /ignore mattt | 11:29 |
| popey | morning mattt ☺ | 11:29 |
| * mattt herp derps popey | 11:29 | |
| popey | gord: I had same thing | 11:31 |
| popey | czajkowski: just showed it to me, i frequently get a situation where some apps dont appear in my alt-tab | 11:31 |
| davmor2 | popey: I have one app, then a bit further down the line it will show more but never all, as I say I showed gord at the co-working day the unity team are aware of it | 11:32 |
| davmor2 | well at least according to gord they are :D | 11:32 |
| j0nr | ello folks | 11:51 |
| j0nr | When I send mail from my personal mail server to my work address, my work address quarantines it. Have I set up something wrong? I assume its something to do with certificates? | 11:52 |
| popey | does your work not tell you why it quarantined it? | 11:53 |
| popey | do you send you home mail via a smarthost or does it go direct? | 11:54 |
| popey | if direct thats probbaly why | 11:54 |
| popey | many mail servers mark mail from home IP addresses as spam | 11:54 |
| davmor2 | j0nr: does your work user greylisting if so then your mail maybe spam purely because it isn't signed with a known key also | 12:03 |
| j0nr | mail is being sent from my VPS which is hosted by some company, so not at home. | 12:07 |
| j0nr | not sure whether thats smarthost or not | 12:07 |
| j0nr | and no, work just says it may contain a virus or be spam | 12:08 |
| popey | j0nr: does the header contain details of the score? | 12:20 |
| gord | payments through gandi are so weird - i bet at some point in that companies history someone said "hey, lets just make our own payment system" | 12:21 |
| j0nr | popey: X_Spam_Status score =0.1, require 5.0 | 12:32 |
| diplo | So server is not making it spam, so it's your client ? | 12:36 |
| * oimon starts getting excited about cotton candy | 13:12 | |
| diplo | popey, You about ? | 13:27 |
| directhex | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iNw2YcAK9Wc#! | 13:30 |
| === tubadaz_ is now known as tubadaz | ||
| diplo | directhex, What were you looking for to find that?!?!?! | 13:33 |
| diplo | :) | 13:33 |
| directhex | the internet is made of cats | 13:36 |
| diplo | :D | 13:38 |
| popey | diplo: ? | 13:50 |
| diplo | Wondering if you wanted Referral for Bitfolk that's all :) | 13:50 |
| diplo | Need your account name if you want it :) | 13:50 |
| popey | aww, thats kind of you | 13:50 |
| popey | ash | 13:50 |
| diplo | Well you have helped me out a fair few times over the last I don't know how + answered a few questions on bitfolk already | 13:51 |
| diplo | :D | 13:51 |
| diplo | kk ta | 13:51 |
| diplo | Also you running lucid on your VPS ? | 13:53 |
| oimon | often when maximising a window on my left screen, the right screen goes blank...any idea? | 13:56 |
| richardperkins | Afternoon all | 13:57 |
| popey | thanks diplo | 13:59 |
| popey | yes diplo | 13:59 |
| popey | aaaaaargh | 14:18 |
| popey | stabstabstab | 14:18 |
| davmor2 | popey: I'm sensing some stress there..... | 14:19 |
| diplo | Bad afternoon ? | 14:19 |
| diplo | :P | 14:19 |
| === Dan__ is now known as Guest75319 | ||
| popey | czajkowski: | 14:43 |
| popey | _ _ | 14:43 |
| popey | / \__ _____ ___ ___ _ __ ___ ___| | | 14:43 |
| popey | / _ \ \ /\ / / _ \/ __|/ _ \| '_ ` _ \ / _ \ | | 14:43 |
| popey | / ___ \ V V / __/\__ \ (_) | | | | | | __/_| | 14:43 |
| popey | /_/ \_\_/\_/ \___||___/\___/|_| |_| |_|\___(_) | 14:43 |
| popey | 14:43 | |
| jpds | ... | 14:43 |
| czajkowski | lit *&^%$£ | 14:45 |
| matti | popey: Eh. | 14:50 |
| matti | popey: Its like top-posting... just don't :) | 14:50 |
| matti | :> | 14:50 |
| matti | Hi jpds | 14:50 |
| diplo | lol | 14:53 |
| DJones | Awe...Cat overs anybody? http://goo.gl/aqtE4 | 14:54 |
| davmor2 | popey: I second your Awesome, and tag it Awesome on lp and assign czajkowski to the Awesome till she gets just how Awesome it is | 14:58 |
| popey | she's afk | 14:58 |
| davmor2 | popey: I know but she come back a read it and hate us all the more :) | 14:59 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: who's awesome? | 14:59 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: Everything in czajkowski world it AWESOME! you have Awesome sunset, awesome sun rises, awesome buildings etc etc etc | 15:00 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: most of all there are lots of really AWESOME CATS! in czajkowski world :) | 15:02 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: so what you're saying is, is that czajkowski is awesome? with awesome sauce? | 15:02 |
| czajkowski | /ignore :) | 15:02 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: WE LOVE AWESOME SO THEREFORE WE LOVE czajkowski :D | 15:03 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: something like that | 15:03 |
| === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting 2nd February 21:00 UK time #ubuntu-uk-meeting | *\o/* AWESOME *\o/* | ||
| davmor2 | czajkowski, popey: what makes me smile is the word Awful is better than the word Awesome, but you won't call something Awesome Awful | 15:05 |
| MooDoo | Awesomely Awful? | 15:05 |
| oimon | i like the word lameriffic | 15:11 |
| shauno | I can never figure out the horror/terror roots. horror, horrible, horrific .. terror, terrible, terrific .. how did the last turn into a good thing? | 15:11 |
| oimon | proabably someone like me making up silly words | 15:13 |
| awilkins | New lappy has been delivered | 15:13 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: \o/ | 15:13 |
| awilkins | It turns out to be a Thinkpad T420. I'm almost happy | 15:13 |
| awilkins | The keyboard is an odd geometry but I'll get used to it | 15:13 |
| MartijnVdS | what like dvorak? | 15:13 |
| awilkins | It's a bit more cramped than the old one | 15:14 |
| awilkins | Dvorak would be a different layout | 15:14 |
| awilkins | I've never learned it ; it would be cool to change the layout but not the keycaps and annoy people | 15:14 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: just change the layout to something random :) | 15:15 |
| MartijnVdS | or with a dirty word somewhere ;) | 15:15 |
| shauno | I got told that's the 'right' way to do dvorak .. switch the layout, but not the keycaps | 15:16 |
| shauno | it's a really awkward layout for peeking at the keys, you do more damage than good like that | 15:17 |
| === tubadaz_ is now known as tubadaz | ||
| * bigcalm rolls back into the online world | 15:26 | |
| DJones | Maybe they've fixed your disconenction problems as well | 15:27 |
| diplo | bigcalm, Just before you hit your data cap with T-Mobile as well | 15:28 |
| diplo | ? | 15:28 |
| bigcalm | diplo: thankfully | 15:28 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: you have T'interwebz | 15:29 |
| bigcalm | diplo: when I got the text message from T-mobile yesterday I went and set up a wifi hotspot on Hayley's phone so that she could stop using my bandwidth | 15:29 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: it is true! | 15:29 |
| * bigcalm sighs at the incoming emails | 15:29 | |
| diplo | heh | 15:29 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: what's it like to have fast netz again | 15:30 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: I'm just happy to be using irc from a proper keyboard/screen again | 15:31 |
| bigcalm | Having a lack of connection did mean that I could sort of hide from clients for a while as well | 15:31 |
| bigcalm | Guess I should let them know I'm available again | 15:31 |
| diplo | Tomorrow..... | 15:31 |
| diplo | :) | 15:31 |
| DJones | bigcalm: Minecraft 1.2 has been released, maybe better getting your internet back on Monday :) | 15:33 |
| bigcalm | Damn it! | 15:33 |
| bigcalm | I forgot and have already sent an email to my boss saying I was back online | 15:33 |
| popey | oooo | 15:33 |
| DJones | ocelots, tame cats, iron golems and all | 15:34 |
| bigcalm | Yes, we need to upgrade the clients and server and decide if we're going to start from scratch again or not | 15:34 |
| bigcalm | I say we do | 15:34 |
| DJones | And jungle biomes | 15:34 |
| DJones | Maybe a vote in the minecraft channel | 15:35 |
| gordonjcp | "tame cats" | 15:42 |
| gordonjcp | I read that as "time cats" at first | 15:42 |
| MartijnVdS | The doctor's cat? | 15:42 |
| gordonjcp | there's not really any such thing as a tame cat | 15:42 |
| gordonjcp | "domesticated" dogs mean they respond to their owners as though they were all part of a pack | 15:43 |
| MartijnVdS | "domesticated" cats have their owners respond as if they were part of a pack :P | 15:43 |
| gordonjcp | "domesticated" cats show up at mealtimes | 15:43 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: and in winter when the heating is on :) | 15:44 |
| gordonjcp | yup | 15:46 |
| mattt | blah | 15:47 |
| mattt | worst thing about getting up at 6 | 15:47 |
| mattt | i feel exhausted by 4 :-/ | 15:47 |
| MartijnVdS | time for a run :) | 15:48 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: is beta one out ? | 16:01 |
| dwatkins | I wish I hadn't bothered getting up at 6am yesterday to watch the RS and Farnell websites die. | 16:01 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: Have you seen an announcement? Until you do assume not ;) I think it should be momentarily | 16:02 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/03/01/ubuntu-12-04-development-update-16/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ubuntu-12-04-development-update-16 | 16:03 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: Is that a release notice, no it's a developer update :P | 16:04 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: where would the relese notice go | 16:04 |
| czajkowski | gord: ping | 16:10 |
| gord | czajkowski, what up? | 16:11 |
| oimon | guys, is 12.04 beta 1 out today? | 16:12 |
| czajkowski | gord: is there a bug for the issue myself and popey mentioned earlier on when I max things and then cant find the buttons to minimise it or close it | 16:12 |
| oimon | :P | 16:12 |
| oimon | reenacting the "is it out yet" party | 16:12 |
| gord | czajkowski, not specifically, id suggest doing a search | 16:14 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Matthew Garrett] Not here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/139653.html | 16:18 |
| CaMason_ | Anyone know if there is an obvious way to enable 1Gb ethternet on a port? | 16:46 |
| CaMason_ | the motherboard's NIC supports it, but it's only going at 100 | 16:46 |
| bigcalm | How can you tell? | 16:47 |
| bigcalm | What's the other end of the cable plugged into? | 16:47 |
| CaMason_ | a gigabit switch with a liight that says 1GBe under each port | 16:47 |
| CaMason_ | booted to windows, they run at 1gbe | 16:48 |
| daubers | CaMason_: Is the cable cat 5e or better? | 16:48 |
| CaMason_ | yes | 16:48 |
| daubers | sure? | 16:48 |
| daubers | What's it got written on it? | 16:48 |
| CaMason_ | installed and fluke tested yesterday | 16:48 |
| daubers | what does ethtool say? | 16:49 |
| CaMason_ | says link partner advertised only up to 100 | 16:50 |
| daubers | and 1000baseT is in the supported link modes? | 16:52 |
| CaMason_ | aha daubers you made me think! Someone was fiddling with the patch panel yesterday | 16:53 |
| CaMason_ | the patch cord itself was cat5 | 16:53 |
| CaMason_ | thanks | 16:54 |
| daubers | There we go :) | 16:54 |
| CaMason_ | all working now | 16:54 |
| diplo | Cat5 will do 1gb+ though won't it.. just not certified ? | 16:54 |
| CaMason_ | not according to my switch's 1gbe light :) | 16:55 |
| diplo | Funnily enough I was going to ask this question when I got home | 16:55 |
| daubers | diplo: Not really | 16:55 |
| CaMason_ | switched the cable and we're up to 1gb | 16:55 |
| * MartijnVdS has some Cat5 cables that do 1GB fine | 16:55 | |
| MartijnVdS | but if your ports only have 4 conductors wired (123 6) | 16:55 |
| diplo | I've got a PC with 10.10 running it advertising 1GB, same switch my microserver same patch lead only doing 100 | 16:55 |
| MartijnVdS | you're out of luck | 16:55 |
| daubers | diplo: I'd only ever use cat 5e or cat 6 | 16:56 |
| MartijnVdS | diplo: at least it's not as bad as 10Base2 networks :) | 16:56 |
| daubers | cat 5 sucks | 16:56 |
| MartijnVdS | diplo: those were even more broken than gbit interop | 16:56 |
| diplo | Well yeah 5e more than 95% | 16:56 |
| diplo | Sorry guessed that was what everyone uses, I used to sell Data cable we only stocked 5e/6 | 16:56 |
| diplo | Was just called cat5 :) | 16:57 |
| diplo | heh MartijnVdS - Just bought a Gig switch though.. rather get it working | 16:57 |
| diplo | Like the ethtool though daubers | 16:57 |
| MartijnVdS | I had a fun day with a bad cable last month | 16:57 |
| diplo | At least I can check tonight | 16:57 |
| MartijnVdS | (well, miswired connector) | 16:57 |
| * diplo has cable tester and over 1k of patch leads at home so should be ok | 16:58 | |
| MartijnVdS | Laptop (gbit, auto-mdix) -> cable -> other bit of hardware: works fine | 16:58 |
| MartijnVdS | Switch -> cable -> other bit of hardware: HALP WHAT IS THIS | 16:58 |
| diplo | Got to find a place to dump these cables eventually | 16:58 |
| diplo | I don't want them | 16:58 |
| MartijnVdS | diplo: middle of the atlantic. | 16:58 |
| diplo | Get me there :) | 16:59 |
| MartijnVdS | diplo: take a plane to the US, open door halfway | 16:59 |
| diplo | Not sure the recycling centre will understand that I'm not a business | 16:59 |
| diplo | Just half inched them from my last work place when I used to do a lot of private jobs | 17:00 |
| diplo | Now do nothing and have lot's of left overs | 17:00 |
| popey | put them by a railway, a pikey will steal them | 17:00 |
| MartijnVdS | Melt them and sell the copper | 17:01 |
| diplo | But could also get done for littering.. | 17:01 |
| diplo | <-- Off home \o/ | 17:03 |
| kvarley | popey: What was the name of the small form factor PC you have? | 17:35 |
| popey | revo | 17:35 |
| bigcalm | Viglen MPC-L | 17:37 |
| * bigcalm sits on his hands | 17:37 | |
| bigcalm | popey: which router do you have that you can plug a usb wifi dongle into it? I'm wondering if I can get my boss to buy me one as the router I have lacks a usb port | 17:38 |
| popey | netgear wndr 3700 | 17:39 |
| bigcalm | Ta | 17:39 |
| bigcalm | How stable have you found it to be? | 17:39 |
| bigcalm | And is it dd-wrt or open-wrt you are using? | 17:40 |
| popey | i have dd-wrt on my day to day router | 17:42 |
| popey | and openwrt on the special backup one | 17:42 |
| bigcalm | I'm wondering if one could plug in a phone rather than a dedicated dongle | 17:43 |
| popey | I guess so, openwrt is very flexible | 17:43 |
| bigcalm | Shame I didn't consider the need of a USB port when I bought my Linksys router | 17:43 |
| gord | google hangouts is so nice, i might just sit on one all day long and let people come in and chat if they want | 17:43 |
| * bigcalm goes to harass gord | 17:45 | |
| bigcalm | Or do I leave that until next week? | 17:45 |
| gord | bigcalm, canonical only hangout, so :P | 17:45 |
| bigcalm | Baka | 17:46 |
| * popey tries to guess the name of the hangout | 17:51 | |
| popey | https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/extras/canonical.com/gord didnt work ☹ | 17:52 |
| popey | Y U NO THERE | 17:52 |
| popey | bah, stupid webcam | 17:52 |
| * MartijnVdS needs a plugin for that? | 17:52 | |
| MartijnVdS | oh and a webcam? | 17:52 |
| popey | yeah | 17:52 |
| popey | it will probably redirect non-canonical people to some other url | 17:52 |
| * MartijnVdS can't generate a webcam out of thin air | 17:53 | |
| gord | INFILTRATOR | 17:53 |
| bigcalm | BWUHAHAHAHA | 17:53 |
| MartijnVdS | Works fine for me.. | 17:54 |
| gord | what have you done popey :P | 17:54 |
| popey | MartijnVdS: url will be changed though | 17:55 |
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| MartijnVdS | Hmm.. "Fakey McNotMyName", nice name :) | 18:32 |
| awilkins | 200 grand for billboards in London to urge people not to vote in a Tory mayor. Hahahahahah. | 18:55 |
| popey | choo choo! | 19:03 |
| Azelphur | it's the popey train \o/ | 19:03 |
| davmor2 | Azelphur: install "sl" and you can see the popey train | 19:04 |
| Azelphur | !info sl | 19:05 |
| lubotu3 | sl (source: sl): Correct you if you type `sl' by mistake. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.03-16 (oneiric), package size 24 kB, installed size 188 kB | 19:05 |
| Azelphur | lol | 19:05 |
| Azelphur | that's what we need, a smart terminal that corrects your spelling ala kupfer | 19:06 |
| davmor2 | Azelphur: that's not what it does seriously install it and type it in | 19:06 |
| Azelphur | hahaha | 19:07 |
| Azelphur | that's random xD | 19:07 |
| awilkins | I wonder if HUD will cope with spellogisms | 19:07 |
| davmor2 | awilkins: it does here ish | 19:07 |
| directhex | moo | 19:08 |
| bigcalm | directhex: happy with new lwg in minecraft? :) | 19:08 |
| directhex | bigcalm: i wrote minecraft off ages ago. you mean it's fixed now? | 19:08 |
| bigcalm | Or whatever the lib is called (I often forget) | 19:08 |
| bigcalm | directhex: I didn't have your problem, so no idea if it's 'fixed' or not | 19:08 |
| bigcalm | Awww poop | 19:09 |
| bigcalm | https://twitter.com/#!/jeb_/status/175205679680851968 | 19:09 |
| directhex | for the love of... | 19:10 |
| MartijnVdS | Woo. Estimated delivery of my RPi: 23 _04_ | 19:46 |
| diplo | evening all | 19:48 |
| MartijnVdS | \o diplo | 19:52 |
| bigcalm | Hullo | 19:54 |
| === Hornet- is now known as Hornet | ||
| popey | evening all | 21:09 |
| popey | daubers: icybox arrived, works, thanks! | 21:09 |
| JGJones | Hey all - what do I need to remove (move) from my /home to "reset" my unity settings completely - .gconf, .gnome2 etc etc? - Have upgraded to 12.04 and wanted to ensure I have a "stock" session thanks! | 21:21 |
| JGJones | as obviously a few issues for me might be an carryon from previous version - ie I cannot shutdown/restart/log off from the user menu at all | 21:22 |
| daubers | popey: Cool :) | 21:23 |
| bigcalm | JGJones: create a new user and see what gets created | 21:28 |
| JGJones | bigcalm cheers...I dunno why I didn't think of that really. #blondemoment | 21:29 |
| bigcalm | :) | 21:30 |
| The_Fred | hello | 21:36 |
| The_Fred | how can i go about making my own list of recently started programs? | 21:39 |
| The_Fred | i use 10.04lts desktop[ | 21:39 |
| AlanBell | The_Fred: that is what zeitgeist is all about | 21:41 |
| The_Fred | AlanBell, thanks | 21:51 |
| gordonjcp | so if I install 12.04 beta, that comes with HUD? | 21:54 |
| gordonjcp | is it on by default and can I turn it off? | 21:54 |
| AlanBell | yes, yes, yes | 21:55 |
| diplo | http://chzfailafterdark.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/i-need-of-these1.jpg | 21:55 |
| * diplo wants these for work | 21:55 | |
| jacobw | does HUD actually work? | 21:55 |
| mgdm | diplo: a friend of mine had some of those, which marked things as "This is utter SH***", etc | 21:56 |
| diplo | AlanBell, to let you know as the other Alan isn't on. His tutorial worked a treat :) | 21:56 |
| mgdm | sadly, they don't tend to work with Basecamp | 21:56 |
| diplo | Much cleaner install than i did last time, think i made some booboos last time | 21:56 |
| diplo | heh, might have to search at work tomorrow for some | 21:56 |
| The_Fred | diplo, thats funny :-) | 21:57 |
| AlanBell | great diplo | 21:57 |
| diplo | Work all cleared up now, so I think it's time to learn how it works properly so I can explain to others | 21:58 |
| diplo | Recommend any basic docs rather than the full ones ? | 21:58 |
| diplo | Going to have a search tomorrow lunch time to see what I can find. | 21:58 |
| gordonjcp | hm, googling for "ubuntu 12.04 disable hud" just brings up a bunch of videos that bray on about how awesome the hud is | 21:59 |
| * DJones wonders if he's lost a month and whether its really April 1st http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17222934 | 22:00 | |
| AlanBell | gordonjcp: ccsm, unity plugin, first option is "key to show the hud" just unbind it from alt and the world will suddenly fill with ponies and rainbows | 22:01 |
| gordonjcp | AlanBell: tbh I think I'll leave it until I get a new PC | 22:01 |
| gordonjcp | AlanBell: unless they've *drastically* reduced the requirements for Precise | 22:02 |
| AlanBell | is it a nasty celeron or something? | 22:02 |
| gordonjcp | AlanBell: 3GHz P4, 2G of RAM | 22:03 |
| gordonjcp | it does have Intel graphics though | 22:03 |
| AlanBell | that is older than an Atom right? | 22:03 |
| gordonjcp | uhm | 22:03 |
| gordonjcp | it's about five years old, I don't know if it's older than Atom | 22:03 |
| gordonjcp | anyway, on 11.10 it's just about usable barring the horrible graphics corruption | 22:04 |
| AlanBell | 1.6Ghz atom works great with the intel chipset, my dads 2Ghz celeron is a complete and utter mess | 22:04 |
| gordonjcp | on 12.04 it immediately hit 100% CPU on both cores, 100% RAM, 100% swap and ramped the fans up to full speed | 22:04 |
| AlanBell | yeah, treat yourself to something shiny | 22:06 |
| gordonjcp | won't be this year | 22:06 |
| gordonjcp | not at this rate anyway | 22:07 |
| * gordonjcp looks pointedly at The Cat With The Golden Arse | 22:08 | |
| czajkowski | herrrro | 22:18 |
| bigcalm | Good evening | 22:19 |
| Azelphur | Can anyone recommend a reasonably good, cheap laptop/netbook for ~£100? | 22:20 |
| Azelphur | Bonus points if it can run minecraft | 22:20 |
| gordonjcp | man | 22:25 |
| gordonjcp | the Furry Alarm Clock has cost me in vet bills this month about as much as I paid to buy my car | 22:25 |
| gordonjcp | I mean admittedly it's like 300 quid but still | 22:34 |
| mattt | evening all | 22:55 |
| mattt | Azelphur: i'd not recommend any netbook, period. | 22:55 |
| Azelphur | haha | 22:55 |
| Azelphur | thing is you can't really seem to get laptops for that price with warranty | 22:55 |
| mattt | save up until you can get a proper laptop | 22:56 |
| mattt | that'd be my suggestion | 22:56 |
| Azelphur | not for me, neighbours want it lol | 22:57 |
| Azelphur | it's laptops for kids, so it's cheap | 22:58 |
| mattt | ah, ok | 22:58 |
| Azelphur | mainly for school work, but the young one wants minecraft more than sliced bread haha | 22:58 |
| Azelphur | so would be great if I could squeeze that on | 22:58 |
| popey | http://www.gumtree.com/laptops/kent | 22:58 |
| mattt | i have an msi wind which i've used a total of like once | 22:58 |
| mattt | the last time i tried booting it the thing went into a reboot loop | 22:59 |
| popey | http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/laptop-asus/97201683 | 22:59 |
| mgdm | I use my netbook quite a lot | 22:59 |
| popey | that looks half decent | 22:59 |
| jacobw | if its neighbors when why care about performance | 22:59 |
| Azelphur | popey: woa, that's really nice :o | 22:59 |
| Azelphur | popey: do you know if he'll ship? gravesend is a bit of a mission | 22:59 |
| * mgdm discovers Gumtree is a Tomcat webapp | 22:59 | |
| popey | no idea, just random clicking | 23:00 |
| Azelphur | popey: haha needs a little bit repair because it don't turn on :P | 23:00 |
| Azelphur | that's why it's so good/cheap ;) | 23:00 |
| * Azelphur noses around gumtree, been nosing around ebay | 23:00 | |
| popey | yeah, thouhgt it might be useful given its your region | 23:01 |
| Azelphur | gravesend is like ~60 miles away from here, hour drive at least :P | 23:02 |
| mattt | also, with my netbook i accidentally nuked the rescue partition :P | 23:02 |
| * Azelphur lives in the middle of nowhereland | 23:02 | |
| mattt | so reselling it will be near on impossible | 23:02 |
| popey | nah | 23:03 |
| popey | people buy blank laptops all the time | 23:03 |
| popey | and use dodgy copies of xp to fill them | 23:03 |
| Azelphur | mattt: I only want Ubuntu, what's the specs? | 23:03 |
| mattt | Azelphur: let me see if i can dig it up | 23:04 |
| popey | i should get rid of wifes netbook | 23:04 |
| mattt | think it's this one: http://www.msimobile.com/level3_productpage.aspx?id=227 | 23:04 |
| popey | Asus 1008HA, 4GB RAM, 120GB SSD | 23:04 |
| mattt | popey: why4? sounds quite nice | 23:05 |
| popey | no need for it | 23:05 |
| popey | i have a thinkpad, she has a mbp | 23:05 |
| popey | kids could use it I guess | 23:05 |
| Azelphur | haha yea that is a nice netbook | 23:05 |
| popey | but they tend to use the imac in the kitchen mostly | 23:06 |
| mattt | Azelphur: i'll look at it over the weekend, but i tried powering it on before i moved and it wouldn't boot | 23:06 |
| popey | they both have eee 900's which are long in the tooth | 23:06 |
| popey | but they still watch iplayer on them amazingly | 23:06 |
| popey | frame rate is awful but they dont seem to mind | 23:06 |
| mattt | hahaha | 23:06 |
| mattt | how old are they? | 23:06 |
| * popey shakes his fist at flash | 23:06 | |
| popey | sam is 5, sophie is 8 | 23:06 |
| Azelphur | mattt: haha, it's probably ok I think they are mainly after stuff with a bit of warranty on it anyway | 23:07 |
| popey | might dig the netbook out and say they can share it | 23:07 |
| Azelphur | popey: reminds me of when my cousins kid came over, I vnc'd the tv so I could fire up iplayer for him and put on what he wanted to watch | 23:07 |
| Azelphur | and he preferred to watch it over VNC on my laptop, than on the TV XD | 23:07 |
| popey | hah | 23:07 |
| popey | you can get a brand new thinkpad for ~250 quid | 23:08 |
| mattt | yeah, which is why i'd recommend against a netbook :) | 23:08 |
| popey | core i5 too! | 23:08 |
| Azelphur | yea, but that's well outta their budget | 23:09 |
| popey | gumtree it is then | 23:09 |
| Azelphur | indeed :) | 23:09 |
| popey | http://ubuntuone.com/16mc9Ra73kEThQV1vGDbSG | 23:10 |
| popey | thats a very good price for what you get | 23:10 |
| Azelphur | popey: yea, their current laptop died because they spilt various drinks on it about 4 times | 23:13 |
| Azelphur | I doubt moms gonna want to fork out :P | 23:13 |
| popey | lenovos have a thing that guides drinks through the machine and not all over the mobo | 23:13 |
| popey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7cvi00OZDM | 23:13 |
| Azelphur | fun :p | 23:14 |
| Azelphur | popey: the other one got dropped and screen cracked :P | 23:14 |
| gord | must test that out with someones thinkpad at next uds | 23:15 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Jonathan Riddell] Kubuntu 12.04 LTS Beta 1 - http://blogs.kde.org/node/4542 | 23:18 |
| mattt | popey: where is that lenova priced from? | 23:18 |
| mattt | *lenovo | 23:18 |
| Azelphur | popey: that gravesend guy has other listings, lots of laptops which conveniently don't turn on xD | 23:19 |
| zleap | is there a ubunt program equivelent to power point viewer | 23:33 |
| zleap | is there a ubunt program equivalent to power point viewer? | 23:33 |
| zleap | sorry just correcting spelling | 23:33 |
| mgdm | libreoffice? | 23:37 |
| zleap | i mean like powerpoint viewer is just a viewer, | 23:37 |
| mgdm | I would guess not | 23:37 |
| zleap | where as libreoffice impress is presentation software | 23:37 |
| zleap | ok | 23:37 |
| zleap | ok so rasp PI + impress + tv = ability to display stuff on a tv like a presentation with results / events / fixtures etc | 23:38 |
| zleap | which is what my local rugby club want, just want to do this in as little memory as possible really | 23:38 |
| AlanBell | zleap: you can export a presentation from impress | 23:38 |
| mgdm | I've given up using Impress or whatever for presentations, I write them in HTML (well, Markdown, but converted to HTML) and then a full-screen browser | 23:39 |
| mgdm | might be one to consider | 23:39 |
| zleap | latex+beamer | 23:39 |
| zleap | could be anoter way | 23:39 |
| zleap | but it would have to be easy for club people to edit, eitehr that I will teach the kids how to do it, and they can help | 23:39 |
| mgdm | if you do it in HTML it can be hosted on a site and updated remotely (which may or may not be good) | 23:39 |
| zleap | ssh | 23:40 |
| zleap | i guess | 23:40 |
| AlanBell | zleap: try the flash, pdf and html exports from impress | 23:40 |
| zleap | so plug in ethernet and do it that way | 23:40 |
| zleap | ok | 23:40 |
| zleap | AlanBell, so using htmkl i just get it to load a new page every say 2 mins | 23:40 |
| AlanBell | I think it might do the transitions in the exported html if you put timings in the presentation | 23:41 |
| AlanBell | or it might not. It could do. | 23:41 |
| zleap | ah ok | 23:41 |
| zleap | will look in to it when i manage to get one | 23:41 |
| AlanBell | if it doesn't then file a bug :) | 23:41 |
| zleap | ok | 23:41 |
| zleap | all i need to do then is convince the club to buy one, | 23:42 |
| AlanBell | personally I think the raspberry pi is too interesting to stick on a wall | 23:42 |
| zleap | AlanBell, yeah, but its better than having a huge pc sitting in the club house, | 23:43 |
| AlanBell | well I suppose now they have continuous production it doesn't matter | 23:43 |
| zleap | its a solution to what they want, that is cheap | 23:43 |
| zleap | yeah, | 23:43 |
| Azelphur | where can you order the raspberry pi btw? I notice some people are ordering it but their site is all messed up | 23:43 |
| zleap | i will use it for programming and stuff at home, i was just thinking about the rugby club | 23:44 |
| AlanBell | yeah, when they were doing a 10k run for the public then trying to do the educational runs it would be a bit wasteful, but now they are doing licensed production it is a nice cheap solution for interesting embedded things | 23:44 |
| zleap | i think it has lots of potential | 23:44 |
| zleap | in the right hands | 23:44 |
| AlanBell | Azelphur: two places, I ordered from Farnell | 23:44 |
| AlanBell | http://www.raspberrypi.org/ links at the bottom of the page | 23:45 |
| zleap | AlanBell, perhaps as i suggested before, i can use it to run open areana server, whichfor this presentation thing, it could run that in the background so anyone at rugby clubwitha laptop canplay open arena via a local server | 23:45 |
| Azelphur | AlanBell: it only says register your interest now! ? | 23:45 |
| AlanBell | try the other one http://www.element14.com/community/groups/raspberry-pi | 23:46 |
| Azelphur | they both do :P | 23:46 |
| AlanBell | oh, so it does | 23:46 |
| AlanBell | I expect there will be more production soon | 23:48 |
| zleap | i think the are building to order | 23:49 |
| AlanBell | no, they are building to meet demand, which is slightly different | 23:49 |
| AlanBell | they can fund continuous production now | 23:49 |
| zleap | well hopefully i can take one of thse into this computer group i am starting and get a few more sales for em, thats assuming some of the kids at the group don't already have one | 23:49 |
| AlanBell | and they have two licensed (and quite surprised) manufacturers | 23:50 |
| zleap | by the time it starts that is | 23:50 |
| zleap | iam off to bed anyway, nite all | 23:50 |
| AlanBell | lulz http://uk.farnell.com/ | 23:50 |
| popey | haha, i have that usb hub | 23:51 |
| popey | its crap | 23:51 |
| === Pernig is now known as Pernig_ | ||
| AlanBell | two sleepy component stores for electricians just found themselves with a fast moving consumer item | 23:51 |
| === Pernig_ is now known as Pernig | ||
| popey | bed | 23:53 |
| popey | nn | 23:53 |
| AlanBell | night all o/ | 23:53 |
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