[00:19] Sarvatt, bryceh, can you reply with your synaptics thoughts? [00:20] cnd, sure, although I don't really have a super firm opinion [00:20] bryceh, that's fine [00:21] bryceh, Sarvatt: note that we can always provide people with xorg.conf snippets on wiki.ubuntu.com [00:21] * bryceh nods [00:21] so we could disable clickpad for apple trackpads [00:21] but tell people how to enable it if they want it [00:22] Oh, yeah! Tests all pass again! \o/ [00:25] what is the right terminology for non-Clickpad ? [00:26] bryceh, non-clickpad, I guess :) [00:26] I don't know [00:28] ok [00:33] cnd, when you say "Click actions is the term for supporting right [00:33] > button behavior by clicking on the trackpad with two fingers." by clicking do you mean press or touch ? [00:34] cnd: wow, 2 finger *tap* does still work? [00:35] * Sarvatt is wondering why he is complaining now then, thats something people can change in the GUI options [00:40] bryceh, I meant pressing there [00:40] cnd, ok [00:41] Sarvatt, some people hate tap to click [00:41] telling them they have to enable it to get right button support probably won't go over well :) [00:41] cnd, how does it detect two finger press vs. one finger press? [00:41] oh, nevermind. heh [01:22] cnd, ok thoughts posted. Hopefully not too blathery. [01:23] cnd, btw, enjoying the snow? === wickedgrey is now known as wickedgrey_away === wickedgrey_away is now known as wickedgrey === wickedgrey is now known as wickedgrey_away [04:43] bryceh, thanks [04:43] luckily there's no snow here === wickedgrey_away is now known as wickedgrey === wickedgrey is now known as wickedgrey_away === wickedgrey_away is now known as wickedgrey [07:12] hmh, hud activates every time I hit ctrl-alt to release the kvm focus [07:13] nope, not every time, but often === wickedgrey is now known as wickedgrey_away === yofel_ is now known as yofel === wickedgrey_away is now known as wickedgrey === wickedgrey is now known as wickedgrey_away === wickedgrey_away is now known as wickedgrey [21:02] jHEELLOOO [21:24] I'm seeing some windows artifacts / parts not refreshed on 12.04 with Intel GPU [21:53] FernandoMiguel: Particularly menus? [21:53] yes [21:53] That's a known compiz bug. [21:54] I *think* it's fixed in trunk / the unity PPA. [21:55] RAOF: linky me! [21:55] The PPA, or the bug? [21:55] ppa [21:55] I can test it [21:56] ppa:unity-team [22:00] RAOF, current xorg-server ubuntu branch fails to build for me [22:00] you have the only commit since the last release [22:00] Huh. Let me check... [22:00] I'm trying to build again with the last release to be sure [22:01] linker failure in hw/kdrive/fbdev [22:02] libtool: link: gcc -std=gnu99 -g -O0 -fPIE -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Wformat-security -Werror=format-security -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -fPIE -pie -Wl,-z -Wl,relro -Wl,-Bsymbolic -o Xfbdev fbinit.o -Wl,--export-dynamic ./.libs/libfbdev.a ../../../dix/.libs/libmain.a ../../../dix/.libs/libdix.a ../../../hw/kdrive/src/.libs/libkdrive.a ../../../hw/kdrive/src/.libs/libkdrivestubs.a ../../../fb/.libs/libfb.a .. [22:02] /../../mi/.libs/libmi.a ../../../xfixes/.libs/libxfixes.a ../../../Xext/.libs/libXext.a ../../../dbe/.libs/libdbe.a ../../../record/.libs/librecord.a ../../../glx/.libs/libglx.a ../../../randr/.libs/librandr.a ../../../render/.libs/librender.a ../../../damageext/.libs/libdamageext.a ../../../miext/sync/.libs/libsync.a ../../../miext/damage/.libs/libdamage.a ../../../miext/shadow/.libs/libshadow.a ../../../Xi/.libs/libXi.a ../../../xkb [22:02] /.libs/libxkb.a ../../../xkb/.libs/libxkbstubs.a ../../../composite/.libs/libcomposite.a ../../../os/.libs/libos.a -lgcrypt ../../../hw/kdrive/linux/.libs/liblinux.a -lpixman-1 -lXfont -lXau -lXdmcp -lpthread -ldl -lm -lrt [22:02] collect2: ld returned 1 exit status [22:02] can't see anything wrong though [22:03] * RAOF carefully stashes his xorg unit-tests away. This is where bzr's one-directory-per-branch model shines. [22:05] so it dies with no error message? nice. [22:05] RAOF, jcristau: I got a better error message this time: [22:06] final link failed: No space left on device [22:06] collect2: ld returned 1 exit status [22:06] oops :) [22:06] hah [22:06] :) [22:06] LOL [22:08] anybody here good at shell scripting? [22:08] jcristau, what's the issue? [22:08] need to do http://paste.debian.net/158247/ in shell [22:08] I would say I'm competent :) [22:08] but not good [22:08] bugs.debian.org/661627 has the details [22:09] hmmm, as much as I'd like to, I think I have to pass :) [22:12] bleh, and there's no chmod --no-dereference [22:12] this stuff makes me sad [22:13] cnd: btw thanks a lot for the xorg-gtest relicense [22:14] sure, though it really wasn't my decision :) [22:14] thanks anyway :) [23:01] crap, it definitely is happening with stock precise to so it's not xserver 1.12 specific. odd i've only seen reports of this happening on macbook air 4,1 or 4,2 touchpads https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/944415 [23:01] Launchpad bug 944415 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "Input stops responding" [Undecided,New] [23:01] i'm sure this is the same bug sforshee was hitting, have to dig up his bug number [23:06] Sarvatt, bug 938770 [23:06] Launchpad bug 938770 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "Desktop becomes completely unresponsive" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/938770 [23:20] sforshee: have you figured out any behavior that triggers it faster by any chance? [23:20] * Sarvatt just installed 338mb of dbgsym packages to look at it but its not dying again yet :) [23:35] hey it's not crashing anymore, must have fixed itself [23:35] * Sarvatt said that hoping to make it crash [23:37] would love to know why themes are so screwed up and font changes dont apply after rebooting into a weeks worth of updates, nothing obvious standing out [23:40] icons in context menus look ancient, gtk2 apps look horrible and fonts are all different now. nautilus isn't affected but xchat/terminator/firefox/chrome are