[00:19] <cnd> Sarvatt, bryceh, can you reply with your synaptics thoughts?
[00:20] <bryceh> cnd, sure, although I don't really have a super firm opinion
[00:20] <cnd> bryceh, that's fine
[00:21] <cnd> bryceh, Sarvatt: note that we can always provide people with xorg.conf snippets on wiki.ubuntu.com
[00:21]  * bryceh nods
[00:21] <cnd> so we could disable clickpad for apple trackpads
[00:21] <cnd> but tell people how to enable it if they want it
[00:22] <RAOF> Oh, yeah!  Tests all pass again! \o/
[00:25] <bryceh> what is the right terminology for non-Clickpad ?
[00:26] <cnd> bryceh, non-clickpad, I guess :)
[00:26] <cnd> I don't know
[00:28] <bryceh> ok
[00:33] <bryceh> cnd, when you say "Click actions is the term for supporting right
[00:33] <bryceh> > button behavior by clicking on the trackpad with two fingers." by clicking do you mean press or touch ?
[00:34] <Sarvatt> cnd: wow, 2 finger *tap* does still work?
[00:35]  * Sarvatt is wondering why he is complaining now then, thats something people can change in the GUI options
[00:40] <cnd> bryceh, I meant pressing there
[00:40] <bryceh> cnd, ok
[00:41] <cnd> Sarvatt, some people hate tap to click
[00:41] <cnd> telling them they have to enable it to get right button support probably won't go over well :)
[00:41] <bryceh> cnd, how does it detect two finger press vs. one finger press?
[00:41] <bryceh> oh, nevermind.  heh
[01:22] <bryceh> cnd, ok thoughts posted.  Hopefully not too blathery.
[01:23] <bryceh> cnd, btw, enjoying the snow?
[04:43] <cnd> bryceh, thanks
[04:43] <cnd> luckily there's no snow here
[07:12] <tjaalton> hmh, hud activates every time I hit ctrl-alt to release the kvm focus
[07:13] <tjaalton> nope, not every time, but often
[21:02] <FernandoMiguel> jHEELLOOO
[21:24] <FernandoMiguel> I'm seeing some windows artifacts / parts not refreshed on 12.04 with Intel GPU
[21:53] <RAOF> FernandoMiguel: Particularly menus?
[21:53] <FernandoMiguel> yes
[21:53] <RAOF> That's a known compiz bug.
[21:54] <RAOF> I *think* it's fixed in trunk / the unity PPA.
[21:55] <FernandoMiguel> RAOF: linky me!
[21:55] <RAOF> The PPA, or the bug?
[21:55] <FernandoMiguel> ppa
[21:55] <FernandoMiguel> I can test it
[21:56] <RAOF> ppa:unity-team
[22:00] <cnd> RAOF, current xorg-server ubuntu branch fails to build for me
[22:00] <cnd> you have the only commit since the last release
[22:00] <RAOF> Huh.  Let me check...
[22:00] <cnd> I'm trying to build again with the last release to be sure
[22:01] <cnd> linker failure in hw/kdrive/fbdev
[22:02] <cnd> libtool: link: gcc -std=gnu99 -g -O0 -fPIE -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Wformat-security -Werror=format-security -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -fPIE -pie -Wl,-z -Wl,relro -Wl,-Bsymbolic -o Xfbdev fbinit.o -Wl,--export-dynamic  ./.libs/libfbdev.a ../../../dix/.libs/libmain.a ../../../dix/.libs/libdix.a ../../../hw/kdrive/src/.libs/libkdrive.a ../../../hw/kdrive/src/.libs/libkdrivestubs.a ../../../fb/.libs/libfb.a ..
[22:02] <cnd> /../../mi/.libs/libmi.a ../../../xfixes/.libs/libxfixes.a ../../../Xext/.libs/libXext.a ../../../dbe/.libs/libdbe.a ../../../record/.libs/librecord.a ../../../glx/.libs/libglx.a ../../../randr/.libs/librandr.a ../../../render/.libs/librender.a ../../../damageext/.libs/libdamageext.a ../../../miext/sync/.libs/libsync.a ../../../miext/damage/.libs/libdamage.a ../../../miext/shadow/.libs/libshadow.a ../../../Xi/.libs/libXi.a ../../../xkb
[22:02] <cnd> /.libs/libxkb.a ../../../xkb/.libs/libxkbstubs.a ../../../composite/.libs/libcomposite.a ../../../os/.libs/libos.a -lgcrypt ../../../hw/kdrive/linux/.libs/liblinux.a -lpixman-1 -lXfont -lXau -lXdmcp -lpthread -ldl -lm -lrt
[22:02] <cnd> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[22:02] <cnd> can't see anything wrong though
[22:03]  * RAOF carefully stashes his xorg unit-tests away.  This is where bzr's one-directory-per-branch model shines.
[22:05] <jcristau> so it dies with no error message?  nice.
[22:05] <cnd> RAOF, jcristau: I got a better error message this time:
[22:06] <cnd> final link failed: No space left on device
[22:06] <cnd> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[22:06] <cnd> oops :)
[22:06] <jcristau> hah
[22:06] <RAOF> :)
[22:06] <FernandoMiguel> LOL
[22:08] <jcristau> anybody here good at shell scripting?
[22:08] <cnd> jcristau, what's the issue?
[22:08] <jcristau> need to do http://paste.debian.net/158247/ in shell
[22:08] <cnd> I would say I'm competent :)
[22:08] <cnd> but not good
[22:08] <jcristau> bugs.debian.org/661627 has the details
[22:09] <cnd> hmmm, as much as I'd like to, I think I have to pass :)
[22:12] <jcristau> bleh, and there's no chmod --no-dereference
[22:12] <jcristau> this stuff makes me sad
[22:13] <jcristau> cnd: btw thanks a lot for the xorg-gtest relicense
[22:14] <cnd> sure, though it really wasn't my decision :)
[22:14] <jcristau> thanks anyway :)
[23:01] <Sarvatt> crap, it definitely is happening with stock precise to so it's not xserver 1.12 specific. odd i've only seen reports of this happening on macbook air 4,1 or 4,2 touchpads https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/944415
[23:01] <Sarvatt> i'm sure this is the same bug sforshee was hitting, have to dig up his bug number
[23:06] <sforshee> Sarvatt, bug 938770
[23:20] <Sarvatt> sforshee: have you figured out any behavior that triggers it faster by any chance?
[23:20]  * Sarvatt just installed 338mb of dbgsym packages to look at it but its not dying again yet :)
[23:35] <Sarvatt> hey it's not crashing anymore, must have fixed itself
[23:35]  * Sarvatt said that hoping to make it crash
[23:37] <Sarvatt> would love to know why themes are so screwed up and font changes dont apply after rebooting into a weeks worth of updates, nothing obvious standing out
[23:40] <Sarvatt> icons in context menus look ancient, gtk2 apps look horrible and fonts are all different now. nautilus isn't affected but xchat/terminator/firefox/chrome are