[00:24] <xubuntu410> any one awake?
[00:25] <xsl> how do I edit the right click menu on the desktop?
[00:38] <GridCube> xsl, edit how?
[00:38] <xsl> in the desktop if i do right click i see stuff like "create launcher..." "create link..."
[00:38] <xsl> i want to remove that stuff
[00:39] <xsl> i want to edit my own options
[00:39] <xsl> and i cant find reference to it on /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/menus/
[00:41] <GridCube> i don't even think you can do something remotely near that
[00:46] <xsl> i already edited applications menu
[00:49] <whisk> got a really weird problem on ppc, all the colors are off in SDL games and fluxbox menu icons
[04:47] <beata> I'm building a custom kernel for an older laptop. Build and boot are fine. However, under the custom kernel the 'Places' menu does not update to show inserted USB drives. I'll start trying to narrow it down fairly soon, next day or two, but I'm curious what would make this happen. Noted that said drives *had* appeared on the desktop.
[04:50] <well_laid_lawn> what does *had* mean?
[04:53] <beata> I mean, when the devices should have showed up in the Places menu, they showed up as expected on the desktop.
[04:54] <well_laid_lawn> do they show in places after you mount them through thunar?
[04:58] <beata> I had not thought to check that. But, running under the Generic kernel, Places works as expected.
[05:00] <well_laid_lawn> so you missed something in your kernel build
[05:00] <well_laid_lawn> no idea what it could be though
[05:02] <well_laid_lawn> if the usb doesn't mount it'll be the filesystem missing probably
[05:10] <beata> Yeah. I'll revert to Generic and then change options one subsystem at a time.
[05:23] <beata> Time to call it a day.
[08:59] <calico> hi guys, i need  to edit /etc/default/grub
[08:59] <calico> could someone please tell me how do i do that
[09:02] <Unit193> sudo nano /etc/default/grub   in a terminal
[09:38] <calico> hello
[09:38] <calico> could anybody help with this part of a tutuorial
[09:38] <calico> $ lscpi -vnnn | grep VGA # Check status here
[09:38] <calico> $ ./test_off.sh # Check for any line that says "it works"
[09:38] <calico> $ lspci -vnnn | grep VGA # Check with result of above
[09:38] <calico> i don't understand that...
[10:41] <nelson8874> hello
[10:41] <Boss_Man> hello
[10:43] <nelson8874> I need to slow down my mouse. Already did it in definitions/definitions manager. But still it is too speedy for a comfortable working...
[10:43] <nelson8874> How can i slow it down?
[10:44] <nelson8874> I google about this, but found no solution
[10:45] <nelson8874> hope you understand what i said. I'm portuguese, and not well fluent in english
[10:47] <nelson8874> please someone...
[10:48] <Boss_Man> hmm
[10:48] <Boss_Man> hold on
[10:49] <Boss_Man> you running Xubuntu right?
[10:49] <nelson8874> yes
[10:49] <nelson8874> 11.10
[10:49]  * Boss_Man nods
[10:49] <Boss_Man> you said definitions manager
[10:49] <Boss_Man> you mean the settings manager right?
[10:50] <nelson8874> yes, that's it
[10:50] <nelson8874> I'm translating it wrong :)
[10:50] <Boss_Man> and it's still too fast?
[10:50] <nelson8874> yes it is
[10:51] <Boss_Man> and you've adjusted the acceleration as well as the Threshold?
[10:51] <nelson8874> yes.
[10:51] <Boss_Man> hm
[10:51] <nelson8874> in the "normal" sttings it is insanely fast....
[10:51] <nelson8874> *settings
[10:52] <nelson8874> it is a toshiba wireless laser mouse
[11:08] <CXIV> Hi
[11:09] <CXIV> What is a name of package of Users and Groups gui tool?
[11:09] <Boss_Man> users and groups is under System
[11:09] <Boss_Man> by default
[11:10] <CXIV> Boss_Man I know
[11:10] <CXIV> Boss_Man But what is a name of command to launch it from console?
[11:11] <Boss_Man> oh the users and groups
[11:11] <Boss_Man> from terminal?
[11:11] <CXIV> Yes
[11:12] <CXIV> I want to launch gui from terminal
[11:13] <CXIV> It cannot be users-admin
[11:13] <CXIV> Because if refers to gnome
[11:14] <CXIV> So can anybody check this for me?
[11:14] <Boss_Man> um I typed users-admin and it worked
[11:14] <CXIV> lol
[11:14] <Boss_Man> might wanna sudo it
[11:14] <Boss_Man> but yeah seems to work
[11:14] <CXIV> May you check the dependencies in synaptic?
[11:15] <Boss_Man> for?
[11:15] <CXIV> And thats the problem
[11:16] <CXIV> users-admin in gnome is from gnome-system-tools
[11:16] <Boss_Man> so...what's the issue
[11:16] <Boss_Man> I'm not understanding the problem
[11:16] <Boss_Man> you said launch it from the terminal
[11:16] <Boss_Man> I just did
[11:17] <CXIV> Ok :)
[11:18] <CXIV> Can you check if xubuntu fot gnome-system-tools?
[11:18] <CXIV> got...
[11:18] <Boss_Man> nope
[11:19] <Boss_Man> I don't have GST
[11:19] <CXIV> Gee
[11:19] <CXIV> So whats the source package of users-admin?
[11:19] <Boss_Man> but yet...users-admin worked fine for me in terminal
[11:19] <Boss_Man> go figure
[11:19] <CXIV> I do not have ubuntu :D
[11:19] <CXIV> Yet...
[11:19] <Boss_Man> what do you have?
[11:20] <CXIV> Ehm
[11:20] <CXIV> Debian
[11:21] <CXIV> Anyway...
[11:21] <CXIV> At http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:21] <CXIV> They say that users-admin referers only to gnome-system-tools
[11:21] <CXIV> Im confused
[11:22] <xsl> is it possible to remove from Thunar the file system shortcut?
[11:22] <Boss_Man> well I don't run Ubuntu I run Xubuntu
[11:22] <CXIV> Boss_Man So can you check the source package? :)
[11:22] <CXIV> Which provide users-admin
[11:28] <csenger41> hey
[11:29] <csenger41> anyone could help me moving Chromium window buttons to the left?
[11:43] <TheSheep> csenger41: that is not possible
[11:44] <csenger41> why? it is possible in Gnome2
[11:46] <TheSheep> csenger41: chromium handles its title bar by itself and the developers didn't include that option
[11:46] <TheSheep> csenger41: you can make chromium use the system window decorations, then it will obey your global settings
[11:47] <csenger41> TheSheep: as I said before, without window decorations in Ubuntu 11.04, with gnome2 the window buttons went to the left side too
[11:48] <TheSheep> csenger41: without window decorations you don't have any buttons at all
[11:48] <csenger41> I meant system title bar and borders
[11:48] <TheSheep> yes, that's called window decorations
[11:50] <csenger41> you can make Chromium use system title bar and borders
[11:50] <csenger41> or hide them
[11:50] <csenger41> if it uses them, they are on the left side, but theres an unuseful empty bar above the tabs
[11:50] <TheSheep> csenger41: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1526960
[11:52] <TheSheep> csenger41: it seems that ubuntu hacked chromium to move the buttons
[11:52] <csenger41> yeah thats a solution for metacity themes, but for XFCE it doesnt work
[11:53] <TheSheep> csenger41: this is a hack that ubuntu added, it won't be there in any normal version of chromium, it seems
[11:53] <csenger41> Ubuntu and Xubuntu uses the same Chromium
[11:54] <csenger41> but how u think Ubuntu hacked Chromium? :S
[11:55] <TheSheep> csenger41: I remember a bug report for chromium where they wanted to move the buttons, but the chromium devs refused to add such an option, so they just went and changed it in ubuntu by themselves. My guess is that they hardcoded some check for gnome so that it only happens under ubuntu
[11:58] <csenger41> TheSheep.: that command u linked only changes the metacity values, it does nothing with Chromium
[11:58] <TheSheep> csenger41: I didn't link you to a command, I linked you to a discussion
[11:59] <csenger41> where the solution was simple command
[11:59] <csenger41> gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string menu:minimize,maximize,close
[11:59] <TheSheep> csenger41: there are several possibilities discussed there
[12:02] <csenger41> TheSheep: well I only found that command as a solution, as I think updating isn't one
[12:06] <TheSheep> csenger41: the solution is to download the source hacked by ubuntu, see how they detect whether to move the buttons or not, and fund out a way to cheat it to think it's gnome
[12:06] <TheSheep> find*
[12:07] <TheSheep> or just enable system decorations and live with it
[13:31] <jamessalty> Hi, can anyone recommend a mouse odometer program?
[13:33] <jamessalty> It looks like both kodo and xodo have been removed from the repos?
[14:25] <Guest18680> Got an old laptop with 512 MB RAM. Is Xubuntu gonna be faster than Ubuntu on it?
[14:31] <jamessalty> Guest18680: IMO 512M should be plenty
[14:31] <Guest18680> Sys reqs for both call for 512 MB. I wonder which one will be faster?
[14:31] <Guest18680> For both?
[14:31] <jamessalty> Xubuntu will not be slower
[14:31] <jamessalty> I have no idea about Unity
[14:31] <Guest18680> I find Ubuntu rather slow on it
[14:31] <jamessalty> XFCE is a lot lighter than Unity
[14:31] <Guest18680> I use Unity 2d
[14:31] <jamessalty> I find Unity rather slow on my i3 with 4G of RAM
[14:31] <jamessalty> I have never used Unity 2D, so I don't know about that
[14:31] <jamessalty> Anyway, XFCE is a better interface than Unity
[14:32] <jamessalty> (IMHO)
[14:32] <Guest18680> So you say I should give XFCE a try if I find Unity 2d slow on 512 MB?
[14:32] <jamessalty> Definitely
[14:32] <jamessalty> You don't need to reinstall from disk or antyhing
[14:32] <Guest18680> I think I
[14:32] <jamessalty> just "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" should do it
[14:32] <Guest18680> OK
[14:32] <Guest18680> Thanks
[14:33] <jamessalty> and the logout, and at the login screen click on the little gear icon and choose XFCE or Xubuntu or whatever it is labelled as
[14:33] <jamessalty> *and then
[14:33] <jamessalty> good luck :)
[14:33] <Guest18680> thanks, have a nice day :-)
 So you say I should give XFCE a try if I find Unity 2d slow on 512 MB?
[14:41] <jamessalty> I know he's gone, but I say he should give XFCE a try regardless ;)
[15:26] <G__81> hi everyone installed xubuntu for the first time and its really cool. I have used xfce in fedora but i see a big difference with xubuntu compared to fedora.
[15:33] <xsl> is there a way to remove from thunar ( the icons on the side panel) file system and so on ( i already managed to remove Network )
[15:34] <xsl> and the ones from ~/.gtk-bookmarks i also know how to edit
[15:44] <G__81> i want to install citrix receiver in Ubuntu 11.10 Its actually Xubuntu but when i install it i get lot of unmet dependencies. I follow the following link
[15:44] <G__81> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo
[15:44] <G__81> i get quite a lot of dependency errors and i am not able to find those packages
[15:44] <G__81> can someone help me out ?
[15:47] <hobgoblin> G__81: are you trying to install the deb with software centre?
[15:47] <hobgoblin> I installed gdebi to do that - works better imho
[15:48] <G__81> hi hobgoblin
[15:48] <G__81> hobgoblin, i use the dpkg -i  from terminal
[15:48] <G__81> i can paste the output. I need it very badly. If you can help me out, i would very thankful to you
[15:49] <G__81> I have installed 64 bit Xubuntu but i am ok to install either the 32 bit version of the client or 64 bit
[15:49] <G__81> this is what i do
[15:49] <G__81> sudo dpkg -i icaclient_12.0.0_amd64.deb
[15:50] <hobgoblin> G__81: using a server or desktop ? to be honest sudo apt-get install gdebi and then right click install with gdebi - bit no good in a server with no gui I guess
[15:50] <hobgoblin> G__81: paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[15:50] <G__81> i use the desktop edition
[15:50] <G__81> i ll paste the output
[15:51] <hobgoblin> I'll have a look - but I've not got a whole load of time unfortunately
[15:51] <G__81> http://paste.ubuntu.com/863610/
[15:51] <hobgoblin> have you tried using software centre to install it - afaik it 'should' do the dependencies
[15:52] <ThePendulum> Does anyone know how to use Xubuntu to install Xubuntu on a USB?
[15:52] <G__81> no i have not tried it
[15:52] <ThePendulum> So not the installer, but the OS itself
[15:52] <hobgoblin> you trying to install the 32 bit one in a 64 bit install G__81 ?
[15:52] <ThePendulum> Because the Live CD isn't very good in remembering settings, lol
[15:53] <G__81> no the 64 bit
[15:53] <G__81> i am trying to install the 64 bit version
[15:54] <hobgoblin> ThePendulum: liveusb persistent or actually install to a usb
[15:54] <hobgoblin> ThePendulum: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent maybe will help
[15:55] <G__81> hobgoblin, i am now installing the citrix 64 bit client using the software center.Its progressing very slowly but i am not sure how it would show the End User agreement. I mean when you install using dpkg -i <.deb> it immediately shows the EULA  agreement and you got to press Yes but in this case i am not sure how it would handle it
[15:56] <hobgoblin> probably you will get a terminal screen with the eula - tab to OK and enter
[15:56] <hobgoblin> and yea I find software centre to be slow - hence using gdebi when I want to do things like that
[15:57] <G__81> hobgoblin, i wish and hope this succeeds i got to connect to my office network :(
[15:57] <hobgoblin> G__81: alt+tab to make sure it's not hidden itself behind another window - took me 2 goes to install codecs the first time
[15:57] <ThePendulum> The problem is, I only have 1 USB and I usually put the installer on that USB. However, the installer can't really install Xubuntu on the stick it's on because it would basically destruct itself.
[15:58] <hobgoblin> ThePendulum: that would be a problem ;)
[16:00] <hobgoblin> good luck both - sorry - gtg
[16:06] <magerquark> ThePendulum, did you try this one? https://launchpad.net/liveusb
[16:08] <magerquark> or unetbootin?
[16:12] <ThePendulum> UNetbootin puts an installer on my USB stick, but I would like to install Xubuntu as an installed OS on my USB, rather than a Live CD
[16:14] <magerquark> ThePendulum, it has an option that allows you to dedicate disk space for persitent files
[16:15] <ThePendulum> Yes, but that only allows you to save files, not save settings and such
[16:20] <Pasq89> my sound doesnt work on xubuntu. what can i do?
[16:22] <ThePendulum> Have you tried to replug it?
[16:24] <jadoe> what did I break now? http://sprunge.us/hZRO
[16:29] <Pasq89> i m on a laptop. w/ build in speekers..
[16:30] <Pasq89> but i converted it from lubuntu... i restarted my system.. but sound still doesnt work..
[16:31] <ThePendulum> Hmmm
[16:31] <ThePendulum> brb...
[16:33] <magerquark> ThePendulum, the other option would be to install virtualbox mount the usb-stick to an image and install it via live-cd through virtualbox
[16:35] <Pasq89> can i reinstall the sound drivers or something?? .. to make sound work..
[16:36] <magerquark> i would ask google about your problem
[16:54] <Pasq89> win speekers or not, sound doesnt work on xubuntu... tried to remove .pulse files.. but nothing..
[16:56] <Pasq89> *with headphones or not(just speekers), sound doesnt work on xubuntu... tried to remove .pulse files.. but nothing..
[16:57] <holstein> Pasq89: try installing pavucontrol ... try running in a terminal "aplay -l"..if you see your device there, then its likely just a setting somewhere you are not accustomed to... you can try pavucontrol and looking in alsamixer... dont trust any lables
[16:57] <holstein> labels*
[16:58] <holstein> i encountered an issue where (in XFCE) i could mute the sound with the keyboard shortcut, but i could not un-mute it
[17:05] <Pasq89> what does aplay show me? i want to activate the build in speekers..
[17:06] <holstein> Pasq89: aplay shows you a list of devices that are showing up as useable by the system
[17:07] <holstein> pavucontrol is what i have used to go in an enable the use of several devices, including the built-in speakers on the internal sound card, as well as the alsamixer settings, and mute-bug i mentioned
[17:08] <Pasq89> how can i found out the name of the speakers with aplay?
[17:08] <Pasq89> i got 3.. analog.. digital.. and hdmi.. it says..
[17:09] <Pasq89> HOW! FIXED!
[17:09] <Pasq89> wow*
[17:09] <Pasq89> almost got a heartattack.. sound was full! :P
[17:10] <Pasq89> i have the mute-bug too.. is there a way in pavucontrol to remove it for all? or just everytime use pavucontrol to fix that?
[17:11] <holstein> i just worked around it... not sure... i wouldnt expect a fix though
[17:12] <Pasq89> thanks for the info!!!
[18:00] <ThePendulum> magerquark: It's possible to boot the installer iso through Virtualbox?
[18:01] <magerquark> jep this is possible
[18:01] <ThePendulum> Any idea how?
[18:01] <magerquark> so you mount the iso via virtualbox
[18:01] <magerquark> star a live cd image
[18:01] <ThePendulum> How do I mount an iso with virtualbox without having virtualbox install it as a virtual machine?
[18:01] <magerquark> mount the usb-drive into the virtualbox-live-cd-image
[18:02] <ThePendulum> Mount the USB drive in the CD image?
[18:02] <magerquark> wellevery virtualbox-harddisk has an cd-rom, but you can insert a .iso image
[18:02] <magerquark> no you mount the xubuntu image as a virtual-cd rom
[18:02] <magerquark> star the live-system
[18:02] <ThePendulum> star?
[18:03] <magerquark> and then you hand over the usb-drive to the virtual-xubuntu
[18:03] <magerquark> star= atart
[18:03] <ThePendulum> Aha
[18:03] <magerquark> star= start
[18:03] <ThePendulum> Hehe, I thought so, but you said 'star' twice so I thought I should ask
[18:06] <ThePendulum> I always get "mount: warning: /home/niels/Mount seems to be mounted read-only." D:
[18:06] <ThePendulum> So I mounted it, now how do I run it in VirtualBox?
[18:06] <ThePendulum> I can't access the virtual drive btw, I think something went wrong
[19:20] <calico> hey guys, i'm running xubuntu on a virtual box. Have setup shared folders and everything, but can't see my hdd's in file manager...  Help how to fix that really appreciated