| Riddell | yay, I'm informative "Kubuntu and KDE (Score:5, Informative)" http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/03/01/2047217/ubuntu-1204-lts-precise-pangolin-beta-1-released | 00:09 |
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| Riddell | hmm, should I take the bait and reply? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2012-March/055692.html | 00:11 |
| === vorian is now known as v | ||
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Thanks everyone for getting Beta1 tested! | Precise: Feature Freeze, time to squish beasties | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-kubuntu.html TODOs! | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-lts-announce | Jussi's new baby's name is Elodi! :) | ||
| rbelem | Riddell, i got it working | 00:52 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i forgot to install startactive-data and startactive-ksplash-theme | 00:52 |
| rbelem | Riddell, and it is missing some runtime deps | 00:55 |
| rbelem | Riddell, kde-workspace-bin installs kdm :-/ | 00:57 |
| Riddell | rbelem: so you can log in from lightdm? | 01:06 |
| rbelem | Riddell, yup, but it is failing to load some modules :-/ | 01:32 |
| Riddell | rbelem: better than nothing, if you package it up tonight I can put it into the archive tomorrow and make some images | 01:33 |
| rbelem | Riddell, here is the log http://paste.kde.org/432188/ | 01:34 |
| Riddell | rbelem: that doesn't mean much to me, best ask notmart or the like in #active | 01:35 |
| rbelem | Riddell, will do now | 01:38 |
| rbelem | Riddell, he is not there :-/ | 01:39 |
| Riddell | it is late in Europe | 01:39 |
| rbelem | Riddell, hum... is it almost 2am for you? | 01:40 |
| Riddell | yes, and +1 later on the continent | 01:40 |
| * Riddell snoozes | 01:40 | |
| rbelem | Riddell, :-) | 01:41 |
| rbelem | Riddell, good night | 01:41 |
| Riddell | http://lwn.net/Articles/484829/ Kubuntu 12.04 to be Supported for 5 Years | 01:44 |
| darthanubis | Thank you!! | 01:55 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i got everything working | 02:24 |
| rbelem | Riddell, plasma-active pkg needs patching | 02:25 |
| Riddell | random e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/432266/ | 09:39 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i slept in the keyboard | 10:04 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i will ping you when i finish the changes | 10:06 |
| Riddell | rbelem: did you pull a rodrigo? :) | 10:11 |
| === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 | ||
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:20 |
| soee | hi BluesKaj | 12:37 |
| BluesKaj | hi soee | 12:38 |
| soee | ih made upgrade yesterday | 12:39 |
| soee | 11.10 > 12.04b1 | 12:39 |
| soee | works fine so far | 12:39 |
| soee | waiting for kde 4.9 now -.- | 12:41 |
| yofel | soee: happy waiting then :D http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.9_Release_Schedule | 12:42 |
| * yofel wonders if dirk forgot about 4.8.1 | 12:42 | |
| soee | yeah i know :) | 12:42 |
| soee | yofel, btw | 12:42 |
| soee | you rememeber i couldnt upgrade yesterday? | 12:44 |
| soee | so i found some file related update -manager where i had to change release type from lts to normal, than do-release-upgrade form console worked | 12:45 |
| yofel | hm, makes sense, except that it shouldn't be set to lts if you were on 11.10 | 12:50 |
| yofel | but this should've still worked | 12:50 |
| yofel | I'll try to reproduce it, thanks | 12:50 |
| Peace- | here it goes | 12:53 |
| === greyback is now known as greyback|away | ||
| Peace- | plasma-widget-daisy is working again here | 12:53 |
| Peace- | just compiled :D | 12:54 |
| yofel | Peace-: on precise? | 12:56 |
| Peace- | yofel: sure | 12:57 |
| yofel | or at least with 4.8? | 12:57 |
| yofel | .D | 12:57 |
| yofel | *:D | 12:57 |
| Peace- | yep | 12:57 |
| Peace- | i did a package deb with cpack as usual | 12:57 |
| Peace- | xD | 12:57 |
| Peace- | yofel: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/02/plasma-desktopWv1827.png | 12:58 |
| soee | Peace-, you are from Poland ? | 13:31 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| Peace- | soee: nope | 13:39 |
| Peace- | yofel: are you on precise? | 13:40 |
| yofel | yes | 13:40 |
| Peace- | yofel: 32bit? | 13:40 |
| yofel | 64 right now, but my eeePC is 32 | 13:41 |
| Peace- | mm :D https://peace-packages.googlecode.com/files/plasma-widget-daisy_0.0.5.deb | 13:41 |
| === greyback|away is now known as greyback | ||
| BluesKaj | odd , i have a usb stick that i'd like to reformat but the notifierand dolphin don't see it , altho it's listed with lsusb | 13:45 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: i have seen that issue too | 13:45 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: partitioon manager can see it ? | 13:45 |
| BluesKaj | Peace-, yes, partition manager sees it but it has no valis partition | 13:48 |
| BluesKaj | valid | 13:48 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: mm :) so you need to format it | 13:48 |
| BluesKaj | yup , what's best, fat32? | 13:49 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: i guess yes | 13:50 |
| BluesKaj | going to put freeNAS on it | 13:50 |
| BluesKaj | ok Peace- , done , thanks for the tip ..forgot about partition manager :) | 13:51 |
| Peace- | :) | 13:52 |
| yofel | soee: ok, that you couldn't update was a bug in software-properties-kde | 14:05 |
| yofel | *upgrade | 14:06 |
| soee | :??? | 14:06 |
| soee | it took me whole night to update yesterday argh :D | 14:06 |
| yofel | in software-properties-kde you can set if you want to be notified on new releases for: Never, Normal, LTS only | 14:07 |
| yofel | some sofware-properties developer had the great idea to change the meaning order to: Normal, LTS only, Never | 14:07 |
| yofel | so I you had set LTS in sofware-properties-kde, you had in fact set it to Never | 14:08 |
| * yofel goes fixing | 14:08 | |
| soee | oO | 14:15 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: hardy? Really? :D | 14:19 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: hmm? | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: the email paste :) | 14:27 |
| Riddell | oh aye, I'll send my stock reply | 14:27 |
| yofel | hm | 14:28 |
| yofel | software-properties is odd | 14:28 |
| Riddell | yofel: what's odd about it? | 14:32 |
| yofel | it's python | 14:32 |
| Riddell | it has the tricky job of making a sane UI out of the sources.list format which is not very user friendly | 14:32 |
| yofel | well, *that* part isn't even broken | 14:33 |
| Riddell | glatzor wrote it ages ago | 14:33 |
| yofel | I'll hack this to work for now and talk with mvo later | 14:35 |
| yofel | the gtk ui uses a dbus backend now. Using that would be the proper way to fix this | 14:36 |
| Riddell | yofel: does this need a backport? | 14:36 |
| yofel | it needs an SRU for oneiric, or you'll see more confused users like soee | 14:37 |
| Riddell | poor soee | 14:37 |
| soee | im not confused, im suprised! | 14:37 |
| Riddell | we also needs a "ensure your system is up to date before starting a release upgrade" notice on the instructions | 14:37 |
| soee | ill start to learn some new languages used in ubuntu/kde and ill fix this :D | 14:38 |
| soee | atm im strict php, javascirpt user | 14:39 |
| Riddell | python is easy to learn | 14:39 |
| Riddell | and sane compared to javascript :) | 14:39 |
| yofel | well, one way to fix it is to simply adjust the mapping: i = (i+1)%3 - which would have the least chances for regressions | 14:40 |
| yofel | I'll file a bug and see what mvo says | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | Did someone say dbus | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | kill that stuff with fire | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | s/fire/napalm/ | 14:44 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer meant: "kill that stuff with napalm" | 14:44 |
| ScottK | Thanks to upstart we have dbus on servers now too. | 14:45 |
| shadeslayer | ... | 14:45 |
| yofel | hurray, now I can blame dbus if my system doesn't boot, not only if I can't log in | 14:46 |
| rbelem | Riddell, :-D | 14:47 |
| Riddell | rbelem: so you can log in from lightdm into active? | 14:47 |
| rbelem | Riddell, yup | 14:47 |
| Riddell | rbelem: lovely, what's the trick? | 14:47 |
| rbelem | Riddell, some changes are needed in the plasma-active pkg, runtime deps, and in the startactive, patching and runtime deps | 14:48 |
| Riddell | rbelem: well done on working it out, you going to put packages into ~kubuntu-active? | 14:49 |
| rbelem | Riddell, yup | 14:49 |
| rbelem | Riddell, in a couple minutes | 14:49 |
| * Riddell holds breath | 14:49 | |
| * rbelem just arrived in indt office :-D | 14:49 | |
| ScottK | Is anyone there to make sure you don't pull a Rodrigo in the midst of all this? | 14:56 |
| rbelem | ScottK, everybody went to a windows shit presentation :'( | 14:57 |
| Riddell | it's brazil, there must be a samba band in the office next door or something to keep him awake | 14:57 |
| rbelem | hahah :-D | 14:57 |
| ScottK | fabo and debfx: Do we wan to make a change in our Qt (we multiarch and the -dev package)? | 14:59 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I don't understand that question | 15:00 |
| ScottK | Riddell: It's a carry over from #debian-qt-kde, sorry. | 15:00 |
| txwikinger | hi folks | 15:05 |
| Riddell | guten tag txwikinger | 15:06 |
| txwikinger | Guten Tag Jonathan | 15:06 |
| txwikinger | woot.. power outage | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | wait ... you have power outages? :O | 15:12 |
| txwikinger | Normally not | 15:13 |
| txwikinger | Yesterday they had a big power outage just north of here. 4 hours 70% of customers off the grid | 15:13 |
| txwikinger | I guess they still repairing stuff and now ours is flaky too because of that | 15:14 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: It's just that, power outages are unheard of in First/Second World Countries | 15:14 |
| txwikinger | No they are not | 15:14 |
| txwikinger | They have power outages all the time | 15:14 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: this is the first time I've heard about a power outage on this IRC channel in the past 2-3 years :P | 15:15 |
| txwikinger | Esecially in winter when ice and frozen rain cuts power lines | 15:15 |
| debfx | ScottK: I don't know if there is a compelling use case for that | 15:25 |
| ScottK | OK. | 15:26 |
| rbelem | Riddell, startactive uploaded | 15:35 |
| rbelem | Riddell, do you think put startactive as depends of plasma-active is ok? | 15:39 |
| Riddell | rbelem: yes | 15:44 |
| rbelem | Riddell, plasma-mobile uploaded | 16:07 |
| rbelem | Riddell, could you upload kde-active-artwork? | 16:07 |
| rbelem | :-) | 16:07 |
| Riddell | rbelem: looking | 16:08 |
| rbelem | Riddell, thanks :-) | 16:08 |
| rbelem | Riddell, do you think kde-active-artwork should be a dependency for plasma-active pkg? | 16:09 |
| rbelem | Riddell, without it shows lots of warnings | 16:10 |
| Riddell | rbelem: yes sounds like it should be | 16:10 |
| === aleix is now known as apol | ||
| rbelem | Riddell, could you do that before upload them? :-) | 16:10 |
| Riddell | sure | 16:11 |
| rbelem | Riddell, how about the kubuntu-mobile-settings? Should we drop it or update and rename it? | 16:14 |
| Riddell | rbelem: drop it | 16:17 |
| Riddell | replace with kubuntu-active-default-settings | 16:17 |
| rbelem | Riddell, oki :) | 16:17 |
| rbelem | Riddell, kubuntu-active-default-settings uploaded | 16:31 |
| * rbelem goes to lunch | 16:32 | |
| rbelem | Riddell, are the pkgs ok? | 17:52 |
| fabo | Riddell: how can I know which archive have been used to build ubuntu armhf images for beta1 ? or even build logs | 17:53 |
| yofel | fabo: take for example qt: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11 | 17:55 |
| yofel | click on the latest upload version | 17:55 |
| yofel | on that page click on the architecture you want | 17:55 |
| yofel | and there you'll find the build log for that arch | 17:55 |
| fabo | argh doesn't help -> http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu/ | 17:57 |
| fabo | I try to build my own image and it fails when I use ports.ubuntu.com | 17:58 |
| fabo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/865467/ | 17:58 |
| yofel | those are just gpg warnings... | 17:59 |
| fabo | the build fails right after that | 18:02 |
| yofel | ah, might be because apt exits non-zero on that I think | 18:02 |
| yofel | fabo: if you're looking for the cd image logs, they're here: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ | 18:02 |
| yofel | that's about what I know about image building | 18:03 |
| === PaulW2U is now known as G4MBY | ||
| schnelle | yofel: new kmess is officially released :) | 21:04 |
| yofel | schnelle: what was the issue again? | 21:04 |
| schnelle | yofel: new kmess was tagged in git but we were waiting for official tarball | 21:05 |
| schnelle | current kmess version in repositories doesn't work because changed something in their servers | 21:07 |
| schnelle | libmsn was updated but kmess doesn't use libmsn | 21:07 |
| yofel | schnelle: oneiric or precise? | 21:07 |
| schnelle | so we need new kmees for precise | 21:07 |
| yofel | schnelle: is it really broken in precise? | 21:08 |
| yofel | I was just taking another look at the changelog for -2, and it might not be | 21:09 |
| schnelle | yofel: I will test beta 1 later and will test kmess | 21:11 |
| schnelle | yofel: i assumed if it is broken in oneiric then it is broken in precise too | 21:11 |
| schnelle | because there weren't official kmess updates on their site till today | 21:11 |
| yofel | well, I made a mistake last time and didn't properly read the changelog, but this is only in precise: | 21:12 |
| yofel | * Add follow-location-redirects.diff, this makes KMess usable with the latest | 21:12 |
| yofel | changes in MSN servers. (Closes: #648080) | 21:12 |
| schnelle | yofel: well than kmess is fixed :) I will test it in precise and report back | 21:14 |
| === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 | ||
| rbelem | Riddell, ping | 22:21 |
| Riddell | hi rbelem, sorry I got distracted then went out | 22:21 |
| Riddell | I'll do the active packages in a bit | 22:21 |
| rbelem | Riddell, thanks :-) | 22:23 |
| ScottK | !ninjas | 4.8.1 tarballs up. | 22:56 |
| ubottu | 4.8.1 tarballs up.: Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel | 22:56 |
| ScottK | ~ninjas | 4.8.1 tarballs up. | 22:56 |
| ScottK | OK, got it right the first time. | 22:56 |
| ScottK | Shall we use the .xz tarballs? | 22:57 |
| Riddell | rbelem: well I got the ksplash showing with a few tweaks to the packages | 22:58 |
| Riddell | but it doesn't run plasma-device after that | 22:58 |
| Riddell | I'm afraid I need to go to sleep now | 22:58 |
| rbelem | Riddell, could you upload your changes? | 22:59 |
| Riddell | no I didn't package them but the xsession script isn't in the package | 23:01 |
| Riddell | and /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/ActiveAir/ needs some files in /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/ActiveAir/images/ | 23:01 |
| rbelem | Riddell, it is on the kubuntu-active-default-settings | 23:01 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i fixed that in the kde-active-artwork that is in the ppa | 23:02 |
| rbelem | Riddell, and i upstreamed the fix | 23:03 |
| bulldog98 | ScottK: sounds good | 23:05 |
| yofel | \o/ | 23:08 |
| yofel | ScottK: I'm all for xz as you know | 23:09 |
| === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | 4.8.1 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | Precise: Feature Freeze, time to squish beasties | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-kubuntu.html TODOs! | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-lts-announce | Jussi's new baby's name is Elodi! :) | ||
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 31 * debian/ (changelog rules) Bump for SC 4.8.1 | 23:17 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: no xz tars present in upstream location | 23:19 |
| yofel | bulldog98: it's in xz/ subfolder, so your script doesn't work | 23:19 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: ok | 23:20 |
| yofel | I fetched everything with: rsync -avh --progress --delete ftpubuntu@ftpmaster.kde.org:/home/ftpubuntu/stable/4.8.1/src/xz/ 4.8.1 | 23:20 |
| yofel | (If you have the bandwidth) | 23:20 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: I have it by now :) | 23:20 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: only command left is the rename command | 23:21 |
| yofel | klinksource works, just tested | 23:21 |
| bulldog98 | ok | 23:22 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: btw what’s our current workflow kgetsource, bzr builddeb -S, pbuilder? | 23:24 |
| yofel | pretty much | 23:24 |
| Riddell | rbelem: I still get stuck at http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/startactive-test.log | 23:24 |
| rbelem | Riddell, but the splash worked with kde-active-artwork ppa pkg? | 23:25 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: what to do if symbols mismatch or something else? | 23:26 |
| bulldog98 | not that they do in the current build | 23:26 |
| Riddell | rbelem: yes | 23:27 |
| yofel | for new ones just add them, for missing ones check if they're public and if yes troll upstream and use the debianabimanager to manually bump the SONAME | 23:27 |
| Riddell | rbelem: but plasma-device does not run | 23:27 |
| rbelem | Riddell, try remove the /usr/share/kde4/apps/startactive/modules/setup-contour-intro.module | 23:28 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 94 * debian/changelog New upstream release | 23:30 |
| Riddell | rbelem: yay it sort of works! | 23:31 |
| Riddell | plasma-desktop gets run as well as plasma-device | 23:31 |
| rbelem | Riddell, try remove the /usr/share/kde4/apps/startactive/modules/desktop.module | 23:32 |
| rbelem | Riddell, try remove the /usr/share/kde4/apps/startactive/modules/plasma-desktop.module | 23:32 |
| rbelem | :-D | 23:32 |
| Riddell | rbelem: No such file or directory | 23:32 |
| rbelem | Riddell, for both? | 23:32 |
| Riddell | /usr/share/kde4/apps/startactive/modules/plasma-desktop.module: No such file or directory | 23:32 |
| rbelem | Riddell, hum... i think we still need the desktop files that overrides the default for plasma-desktop | 23:33 |
| rbelem | Riddell, sudo chmod -x /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop | 23:35 |
| rbelem | Riddell, just to test :-) | 23:35 |
| Riddell | rbelem: that file isn't +x | 23:36 |
| Riddell | .desktop files aren't executable | 23:37 |
| rbelem | Riddell, oops | 23:37 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: how do you do the l10n stuff? | 23:37 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i mean -r | 23:37 |
| yofel | bulldog98: last, using the script from the l10n branch | 23:37 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: will it work right now? | 23:37 |
| yofel | no idea, with the xz tars probably not | 23:38 |
| yofel | we can figure that out once the rest is done | 23:38 |
| Riddell | rbelem: yay, working | 23:38 |
| Riddell | rbelem: but no mouse cursor. theme missing? | 23:38 |
| rbelem | Riddell, that is expected | 23:38 |
| rbelem | Riddell, because it is meant for tablets | 23:39 |
| Riddell | oh I see :) | 23:39 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/changelog New upstream release | 23:39 |
| rbelem | Riddell, but we can disable it | 23:39 |
| Riddell | probably we should disable it until someone gets a tablet to use :) | 23:39 |
| rbelem | Riddell, oki :-) | 23:40 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: we should upload a new version of kubuntu-dev-tools to somewhere | 23:40 |
| rbelem | Riddell, my laptop will shutdown | 23:41 |
| rbelem | Riddell, could you apply these changes? | 23:41 |
| yofel | bulldog98: iirc debfx had something against uploading it to the archive. But I don't remember what the issue was | 23:41 |
| yofel | put it in ninjas if you want | 23:42 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i can update the kubuntu-active-default-settings | 23:42 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Jonathan Kolberg * 148 * debian/changelog Did an update of the changelog | 23:44 |
| Riddell | rbelem: ok so I'll upload these (but not tonight, prob tomorrow evening) | 23:45 |
| Riddell | we need to work out what is dragging plasma-desktop onto the kubuntu-active CD image | 23:46 |
| Riddell | and we're good to go | 23:46 |
| Riddell | I got my arm board working today too, but only for oneiric not precise yet | 23:46 |
| yofel | bulldog98: please put the changelog contents in the commit message, or describe the change you did - your message doesn't tell much.. | 23:46 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: only change the version and put my name into the comment line | 23:47 |
| yofel | well, "bump version for precise" would've told me that | 23:48 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: I try to keep that in mind | 23:48 |
| yofel | thanks, takes practice :) | 23:49 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: we don’t have something like an l10n script in kubuntu-dev-tools | 23:50 |
| bulldog98 | afaiks | 23:50 |
| yofel | bulldog98: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide | 23:50 |
| yofel | we do l10n last anyway | 23:50 |
| yofel | l10n is tricky | 23:51 |
| bulldog98 | I don’t have upload rights either | 23:51 |
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