[00:09] yay, I'm informative "Kubuntu and KDE (Score:5, Informative)" http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/03/01/2047217/ubuntu-1204-lts-precise-pangolin-beta-1-released [00:11] hmm, should I take the bait and reply? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2012-March/055692.html === vorian is now known as v === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Thanks everyone for getting Beta1 tested! | Precise: Feature Freeze, time to squish beasties | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-kubuntu.html TODOs! | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-lts-announce | Jussi's new baby's name is Elodi! :) [00:52] Riddell, i got it working [00:52] Riddell, i forgot to install startactive-data and startactive-ksplash-theme [00:55] Riddell, and it is missing some runtime deps [00:57] Riddell, kde-workspace-bin installs kdm :-/ [01:06] rbelem: so you can log in from lightdm? [01:32] Riddell, yup, but it is failing to load some modules :-/ [01:33] rbelem: better than nothing, if you package it up tonight I can put it into the archive tomorrow and make some images [01:34] Riddell, here is the log http://paste.kde.org/432188/ [01:35] rbelem: that doesn't mean much to me, best ask notmart or the like in #active [01:38] Riddell, will do now [01:39] Riddell, he is not there :-/ [01:39] it is late in Europe [01:40] Riddell, hum... is it almost 2am for you? [01:40] yes, and +1 later on the continent [01:40] * Riddell snoozes [01:41] Riddell, :-) [01:41] Riddell, good night [01:44] http://lwn.net/Articles/484829/ Kubuntu 12.04 to be Supported for 5 Years [01:55] Thank you!! [02:24] Riddell, i got everything working [02:25] Riddell, plasma-active pkg needs patching [09:39] random e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/432266/ [10:04] Riddell, i slept in the keyboard [10:06] Riddell, i will ping you when i finish the changes [10:11] rbelem: did you pull a rodrigo? :) === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [12:20] Hiyas all [12:37] hi BluesKaj [12:38] hi soee [12:39] ih made upgrade yesterday [12:39] 11.10 > 12.04b1 [12:39] works fine so far [12:41] waiting for kde 4.9 now -.- [12:42] soee: happy waiting then :D http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.9_Release_Schedule [12:42] * yofel wonders if dirk forgot about 4.8.1 [12:42] yeah i know :) [12:42] yofel, btw [12:44] you rememeber i couldnt upgrade yesterday? [12:45] so i found some file related update -manager where i had to change release type from lts to normal, than do-release-upgrade form console worked [12:50] hm, makes sense, except that it shouldn't be set to lts if you were on 11.10 [12:50] but this should've still worked [12:50] I'll try to reproduce it, thanks [12:53] here it goes === greyback is now known as greyback|away [12:53] plasma-widget-daisy is working again here [12:54] just compiled :D [12:56] Peace-: on precise? [12:57] yofel: sure [12:57] or at least with 4.8? [12:57] .D [12:57] *:D [12:57] yep [12:57] i did a package deb with cpack as usual [12:57] xD [12:58] yofel: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/02/plasma-desktopWv1827.png [13:31] Peace-, you are from Poland ? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:39] soee: nope [13:40] yofel: are you on precise? [13:40] yes [13:40] yofel: 32bit? [13:41] 64 right now, but my eeePC is 32 [13:41] mm :D https://peace-packages.googlecode.com/files/plasma-widget-daisy_0.0.5.deb === greyback|away is now known as greyback [13:45] odd , i have a usb stick that i'd like to reformat but the notifierand dolphin don't see it , altho it's listed with lsusb [13:45] BluesKaj: i have seen that issue too [13:45] BluesKaj: partitioon manager can see it ? [13:48] Peace-, yes, partition manager sees it but it has no valis partition [13:48] valid [13:48] BluesKaj: mm :) so you need to format it [13:49] yup , what's best, fat32? [13:50] BluesKaj: i guess yes [13:50] going to put freeNAS on it [13:51] ok Peace- , done , thanks for the tip ..forgot about partition manager :) [13:52] :) [14:05] soee: ok, that you couldn't update was a bug in software-properties-kde [14:06] *upgrade [14:06] :??? [14:06] it took me whole night to update yesterday argh :D [14:07] in software-properties-kde you can set if you want to be notified on new releases for: Never, Normal, LTS only [14:07] some sofware-properties developer had the great idea to change the meaning order to: Normal, LTS only, Never [14:08] so I you had set LTS in sofware-properties-kde, you had in fact set it to Never [14:08] * yofel goes fixing [14:15] oO [14:19] Riddell: hardy? Really? :D [14:26] shadeslayer: hmm? [14:27] Riddell: the email paste :) [14:27] oh aye, I'll send my stock reply [14:28] hm [14:28] software-properties is odd [14:32] yofel: what's odd about it? [14:32] it's python [14:32] it has the tricky job of making a sane UI out of the sources.list format which is not very user friendly [14:33] well, *that* part isn't even broken [14:33] glatzor wrote it ages ago [14:35] I'll hack this to work for now and talk with mvo later [14:36] the gtk ui uses a dbus backend now. Using that would be the proper way to fix this [14:36] yofel: does this need a backport? [14:37] it needs an SRU for oneiric, or you'll see more confused users like soee [14:37] poor soee [14:37] im not confused, im suprised! [14:37] we also needs a "ensure your system is up to date before starting a release upgrade" notice on the instructions [14:38] ill start to learn some new languages used in ubuntu/kde and ill fix this :D [14:39] atm im strict php, javascirpt user [14:39] python is easy to learn [14:39] and sane compared to javascript :) [14:40] well, one way to fix it is to simply adjust the mapping: i = (i+1)%3 - which would have the least chances for regressions [14:41] I'll file a bug and see what mvo says [14:43] Did someone say dbus [14:43] kill that stuff with fire [14:44] s/fire/napalm/ [14:44] shadeslayer meant: "kill that stuff with napalm" [14:45] Thanks to upstart we have dbus on servers now too. [14:45] ... [14:46] hurray, now I can blame dbus if my system doesn't boot, not only if I can't log in [14:47] Riddell, :-D [14:47] rbelem: so you can log in from lightdm into active? [14:47] Riddell, yup [14:47] rbelem: lovely, what's the trick? [14:48] Riddell, some changes are needed in the plasma-active pkg, runtime deps, and in the startactive, patching and runtime deps [14:49] rbelem: well done on working it out, you going to put packages into ~kubuntu-active? [14:49] Riddell, yup [14:49] Riddell, in a couple minutes [14:49] * Riddell holds breath [14:49] * rbelem just arrived in indt office :-D [14:56] Is anyone there to make sure you don't pull a Rodrigo in the midst of all this? [14:57] ScottK, everybody went to a windows shit presentation :'( [14:57] it's brazil, there must be a samba band in the office next door or something to keep him awake [14:57] hahah :-D [14:59] fabo and debfx: Do we wan to make a change in our Qt (we multiarch and the -dev package)? [15:00] ScottK: I don't understand that question [15:00] Riddell: It's a carry over from #debian-qt-kde, sorry. [15:05] hi folks [15:06] guten tag txwikinger [15:06] Guten Tag Jonathan [15:10] woot.. power outage [15:12] wait ... you have power outages? :O [15:13] Normally not [15:13] Yesterday they had a big power outage just north of here. 4 hours 70% of customers off the grid [15:14] I guess they still repairing stuff and now ours is flaky too because of that [15:14] txwikinger: It's just that, power outages are unheard of in First/Second World Countries [15:14] No they are not [15:14] They have power outages all the time [15:15] txwikinger: this is the first time I've heard about a power outage on this IRC channel in the past 2-3 years :P [15:15] Esecially in winter when ice and frozen rain cuts power lines [15:25] ScottK: I don't know if there is a compelling use case for that [15:26] OK. [15:35] Riddell, startactive uploaded [15:39] Riddell, do you think put startactive as depends of plasma-active is ok? [15:44] rbelem: yes [16:07] Riddell, plasma-mobile uploaded [16:07] Riddell, could you upload kde-active-artwork? [16:07] :-) [16:08] rbelem: looking [16:08] Riddell, thanks :-) [16:09] Riddell, do you think kde-active-artwork should be a dependency for plasma-active pkg? [16:10] Riddell, without it shows lots of warnings [16:10] rbelem: yes sounds like it should be === aleix is now known as apol [16:10] Riddell, could you do that before upload them? :-) [16:11] sure [16:14] Riddell, how about the kubuntu-mobile-settings? Should we drop it or update and rename it? [16:17] rbelem: drop it [16:17] replace with kubuntu-active-default-settings [16:17] Riddell, oki :) [16:31] Riddell, kubuntu-active-default-settings uploaded [16:32] * rbelem goes to lunch [17:52] Riddell, are the pkgs ok? [17:53] Riddell: how can I know which archive have been used to build ubuntu armhf images for beta1 ? or even build logs [17:55] fabo: take for example qt: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11 [17:55] click on the latest upload version [17:55] on that page click on the architecture you want [17:55] and there you'll find the build log for that arch [17:57] argh doesn't help -> http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu/ [17:58] I try to build my own image and it fails when I use ports.ubuntu.com [17:58] http://paste.ubuntu.com/865467/ [17:59] those are just gpg warnings... [18:02] the build fails right after that [18:02] ah, might be because apt exits non-zero on that I think [18:02] fabo: if you're looking for the cd image logs, they're here: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ [18:03] that's about what I know about image building === PaulW2U is now known as G4MBY [21:04] yofel: new kmess is officially released :) [21:04] schnelle: what was the issue again? [21:05] yofel: new kmess was tagged in git but we were waiting for official tarball [21:07] current kmess version in repositories doesn't work because changed something in their servers [21:07] libmsn was updated but kmess doesn't use libmsn [21:07] schnelle: oneiric or precise? [21:07] so we need new kmees for precise [21:08] schnelle: is it really broken in precise? [21:09] I was just taking another look at the changelog for -2, and it might not be [21:11] yofel: I will test beta 1 later and will test kmess [21:11] yofel: i assumed if it is broken in oneiric then it is broken in precise too [21:11] because there weren't official kmess updates on their site till today [21:12] well, I made a mistake last time and didn't properly read the changelog, but this is only in precise: [21:12] * Add follow-location-redirects.diff, this makes KMess usable with the latest [21:12] changes in MSN servers. (Closes: #648080) [21:14] yofel: well than kmess is fixed :) I will test it in precise and report back === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [22:21] Riddell, ping [22:21] hi rbelem, sorry I got distracted then went out [22:21] I'll do the active packages in a bit [22:23] Riddell, thanks :-) [22:56] !ninjas | 4.8.1 tarballs up. [22:56] 4.8.1 tarballs up.: Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel [22:56] ~ninjas | 4.8.1 tarballs up. [22:56] OK, got it right the first time. [22:57] Shall we use the .xz tarballs? [22:58] rbelem: well I got the ksplash showing with a few tweaks to the packages [22:58] but it doesn't run plasma-device after that [22:58] I'm afraid I need to go to sleep now [22:59] Riddell, could you upload your changes? [23:01] no I didn't package them but the xsession script isn't in the package [23:01] and /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/ActiveAir/ needs some files in /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/ActiveAir/images/ [23:01] Riddell, it is on the kubuntu-active-default-settings [23:02] Riddell, i fixed that in the kde-active-artwork that is in the ppa [23:03] Riddell, and i upstreamed the fix [23:05] ScottK: sounds good [23:08] \o/ [23:09] ScottK: I'm all for xz as you know === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | 4.8.1 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | Precise: Feature Freeze, time to squish beasties | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-kubuntu.html TODOs! | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-lts-announce | Jussi's new baby's name is Elodi! :) [23:17] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 31 * debian/ (changelog rules) Bump for SC 4.8.1 [23:19] yofel: no xz tars present in upstream location [23:19] bulldog98: it's in xz/ subfolder, so your script doesn't work [23:20] yofel: ok [23:20] I fetched everything with: rsync -avh --progress --delete ftpubuntu@ftpmaster.kde.org:/home/ftpubuntu/stable/4.8.1/src/xz/ 4.8.1 [23:20] (If you have the bandwidth) [23:20] yofel: I have it by now :) [23:21] yofel: only command left is the rename command [23:21] klinksource works, just tested [23:22] ok [23:24] yofel: btw what’s our current workflow kgetsource, bzr builddeb -S, pbuilder? [23:24] pretty much [23:24] rbelem: I still get stuck at http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/startactive-test.log [23:25] Riddell, but the splash worked with kde-active-artwork ppa pkg? [23:26] yofel: what to do if symbols mismatch or something else? [23:26] not that they do in the current build [23:27] rbelem: yes [23:27] for new ones just add them, for missing ones check if they're public and if yes troll upstream and use the debianabimanager to manually bump the SONAME [23:27] rbelem: but plasma-device does not run [23:28] Riddell, try remove the /usr/share/kde4/apps/startactive/modules/setup-contour-intro.module [23:30] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 94 * debian/changelog New upstream release [23:31] rbelem: yay it sort of works! [23:31] plasma-desktop gets run as well as plasma-device [23:32] Riddell, try remove the /usr/share/kde4/apps/startactive/modules/desktop.module [23:32] Riddell, try remove the /usr/share/kde4/apps/startactive/modules/plasma-desktop.module [23:32] :-D [23:32] rbelem: No such file or directory [23:32] Riddell, for both? [23:32] /usr/share/kde4/apps/startactive/modules/plasma-desktop.module: No such file or directory [23:33] Riddell, hum... i think we still need the desktop files that overrides the default for plasma-desktop [23:35] Riddell, sudo chmod -x /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop [23:35] Riddell, just to test :-) [23:36] rbelem: that file isn't +x [23:37] .desktop files aren't executable [23:37] Riddell, oops [23:37] yofel: how do you do the l10n stuff? [23:37] Riddell, i mean -r [23:37] bulldog98: last, using the script from the l10n branch [23:37] yofel: will it work right now? [23:38] no idea, with the xz tars probably not [23:38] we can figure that out once the rest is done [23:38] rbelem: yay, working [23:38] rbelem: but no mouse cursor. theme missing? [23:38] Riddell, that is expected [23:39] Riddell, because it is meant for tablets [23:39] oh I see :) [23:39] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/changelog New upstream release [23:39] Riddell, but we can disable it [23:39] probably we should disable it until someone gets a tablet to use :) [23:40] Riddell, oki :-) [23:40] yofel: we should upload a new version of kubuntu-dev-tools to somewhere [23:41] Riddell, my laptop will shutdown [23:41] Riddell, could you apply these changes? [23:41] bulldog98: iirc debfx had something against uploading it to the archive. But I don't remember what the issue was [23:42] put it in ninjas if you want [23:42] Riddell, i can update the kubuntu-active-default-settings [23:44] [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Jonathan Kolberg * 148 * debian/changelog Did an update of the changelog [23:45] rbelem: ok so I'll upload these (but not tonight, prob tomorrow evening) [23:46] we need to work out what is dragging plasma-desktop onto the kubuntu-active CD image [23:46] and we're good to go [23:46] I got my arm board working today too, but only for oneiric not precise yet [23:46] bulldog98: please put the changelog contents in the commit message, or describe the change you did - your message doesn't tell much.. [23:47] yofel: only change the version and put my name into the comment line [23:48] well, "bump version for precise" would've told me that [23:48] yofel: I try to keep that in mind [23:49] thanks, takes practice :) [23:50] yofel: we don’t have something like an l10n script in kubuntu-dev-tools [23:50] afaiks [23:50] bulldog98: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide [23:50] we do l10n last anyway [23:51] l10n is tricky [23:51] I don’t have upload rights either