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JmichaelXhas anyone else noticed power usage increasing since the most recent updates?00:33
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TronicJMichaelX: I have noticed severe loss of battery life on my laptop with 12.04 but I cannot precisely tell when it began.00:41
TronicI noticed the problem yesterday.00:42
JMichaelXTronic: hmmm... the kernel issues with power usage were supposed to have been resolved with kernel 3.2+00:42
JMichaelXhowever, i am using 11.10... and i am thinking the issue here is with KDE (bit i do not know that for sure)00:43
JMichaelXbut*00:43
dellhi01:22
jmcculloughHi all! I'm attempting to dual boot Windows 7 and the latest Kubuntu release. I have plenty of free space allocated via the windows partition configurations, but I don't see the "free space" option in the Kubuntu setup.03:10
jmcculloughexit03:19
phoenix_firebrdamarok volume control doesnt work after i installed and uninstalled veromix volume control plasmoid04:04
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lisamariefanHey everyone.04:31
lisamariefanAnyone here familiar with ASP.NET?04:31
lisamariefanAnyone?04:32
lisamariefanI'm just curious because I'm taking on this skills assessment for an internship, and the guy understand if I don't know much but am willing to learn...04:33
szalhow does that relate to Kubuntu?04:33
lisamariefanBut I just want to get enough of a grasp of things.04:33
lisamariefanIt relates to computers.04:33
lisamariefanIt relates to software development.04:34
szalso it doesn't relate to Kubuntu -> off-topic04:34
lisamariefan...04:34
lisamariefanYeah?  And?04:34
lisamariefanIs there a room for that?04:34
szaltry on of the -offtopic channels04:34
szal*one04:34
lisamariefanThere is no channel with that explicit name, and...I forget...04:36
lisamariefanHow do you pull up a channel list?04:36
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ronskisika> I enjoy switching desktop when I move the mouse against the screen edge, but I'd like to also use the corners of the screen to trigger additional actions (e.g. lock screen, present windows). It used to work when I used 4.7. I'm not positive if the move to 4.8 broke it, tho08:28
ronskisikaI can move the mouse to the corner so that the desktop is not switched, but the corner action is not triggered. If I disable desktop switching, the corner action works like a charm08:28
ronskisikaI'm using KDE, naturally08:36
nafg?08:57
nafg?08:57
nafgtesting08:57
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TheOneRinghi I'm trying to get a ‘Atheros Wireless WLAN BT 1535C Half MiniCard’  to run, which I read is a  “Atheros AR6x02/AR6003 NWF WLAN10:04
TheOneRingand would require http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath6kl10:04
TheOneRingwhat is the easyest way to get all the dev tools on a usb stick?10:04
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skramer_hi, I have some problem with KMail2. Which is everytime I mark some e-mail as spam, it says that "E-Mails in folder can not be modified". Any idea how this could be solved?11:17
Asiqserver11:28
BluesKajHiyas all12:20
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drostieOkay, so, in getting wireshark to work the way it's supposed to work, I accidentally clobbered my groups.12:51
drostiecould someone go to the konsole and type 'groups' so that I know what groups kubuntu normally assigns you to? :D12:52
yofeldrostie: not quite default, but here's what I'm in: adm dialout cdrom sudo plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare libvirtd wireshark (and my own user group)12:54
drostieyay, thanks.12:55
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OxymoronHi, latest 12.04 beta of Kubuntu, is it "stable"? I know it is BETA nad should not be stable per default. But could be more stable than 11.04 anyway ;)14:06
Peace-Oxymoron: here works but because here works fine doesn't mean is stable for your14:08
OxymoronPeace-: Is anything crashing for you? Does apt, sound, wifi, video works?14:09
OxymoronAny improvements noticable?14:09
Peace-Oxymoron: i use apt with alias and of course works fine14:09
Peace-yes everything is working here14:09
OxymoronPeace-: I read somewhere about a bug with ordering problem in apt, configure packages before download them :P14:09
Peace-Oxymoron: i just do sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade14:10
OxymoronPeace-: What is the changes? Does not say much on the beta official info page. What is the REALLY changes for the user?14:10
Peace-and it works14:10
Peace-http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/02/plasma-desktopbc1827.png14:10
Peace-Oxymoron: well no changes14:10
Peace-Oxymoron: kde 4.8 is kde 4.814:11
OxymoronPeace-: Something polished? better gui somewhere, nw modules or anything?14:11
OxymoronPeace-: Does Telepathy works good for instance?14:11
Peace-Oxymoron: have you tested kde 4.8 ?14:11
Peace-Oxymoron: telepathy here works with msn14:11
OxymoronIsnt KDE 4.8 installed if you have latest 11.04?14:11
OxymoronPeace-: Does it work with Facebook as well?14:11
OxymoronMaybe Skye?14:11
Peace-Oxymoron: i dunno i am on kubuntu 12.04 since it was alpha14:11
Peace-Oxymoron: i have no skype14:12
Peace-Oxymoron: not tested telepathy wwith facebook14:12
OxymoronJust wondering if its worth install it at all. if not changes, then not need to install it.14:12
OxymoronAnd if no changes, why even bother release 12.04? :D14:12
Peace-Oxymoron: if you have kde 4.7 ...14:13
Peace-Oxymoron: if you have a good kernel with 11.'04 it doesn't means you have to upgrade14:13
Peace-maybe just kde if you can install on it14:13
OxymoronPeace-: What is the new changes in KDE 4.8 then= :)14:14
Peace-Oxymoron: well you can read the changelog on kde website14:14
OxymoronYes I read release info on kde.org, but does say much.14:14
Peace-dolphin faster basically14:14
Peace-telepathy kde14:14
OxymoronWhat is the pratical changes, what do you as end user feel that changed.14:15
Peace-dolphin a little faster14:15
Peace-and plasma seems more stable14:15
Peace-just that14:15
OxymoronUhm seems like I have 4.814:16
Peace-so...14:16
OxymoronDolphin went more unstable, sure faster but crashes more often.14:16
Peace-Oxymoron: here never chrashed14:17
Peace-cra14:17
OxymoronIt try to be so fast, that it freezes in directory listing process.14:17
Peace-never seen that issue here14:17
OxymoronTake very long time to open a dir with many files etc, because of the tree view, when check a folder.14:17
Peace-that could be true ..14:18
OxymoronOnly happens sometimes14:18
Avihay4.8 is mainly a compositing speed improvement for me14:18
OxymoronMostly when access NTFS partition14:18
Peace-i have not ntfs :)14:18
Peace-i just use linux14:18
OxymoronPeace-: Btw, do you know if anyone is working to improve audio configs and HDMI?14:19
Peace-Oxymoron: no i don't know but this is what i have http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXlf3xRMkIE right now14:19
OxymoronWhat I do not understand is that ubuntu/kubuntu NEVER done anything about the login screen before come to desktop ... EVER.14:19
Peace-here there is a nice slash stuff14:20
Peace-splash14:20
OxymoronPeace-: Really, can you show me what from kde.looks? I have not EVER seen any changes that make it looks good. Same crappy input fields14:21
OxymoronDifferent layouts, but same input and ugly KDE logo etc.14:21
OxymoronNot say I particularly want like Windows 7, but more like that please.14:21
Peace-Oxymoron: i use minimalistic14:26
Peace-Oxymoron: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/02/plasma-desktopBp1827.png14:27
OxymoronPeace-: This is the highest rated one on kde look ... http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Clean?content=7440514:27
OxymoronLooks like a child draw it.14:27
OxymoronSo few changes that need to be done, to make it beautiful, but still simple, minimalistic.14:28
OxymoronChange shape of input fields, fonts of labels, then add a list of users with rounded corners on each logo of users. Colors is a taste matter, but I would say grey is out, make more milky with KDE blue.14:29
Peace-Oxymoron: dunno but i like my desktop :) http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/02/plasma-desktopjq1827.png and now i hav to go create your own kdm14:30
OxymoronThen use the whole freaking screen, not a simple frame in the middle with user and password field xD14:30
Peace-if you don't like it's pretty simple14:30
OxymoronOh does Kate have built in terminal :D14:31
Peace-Oxymoron: read this it could be usefull for your new kdm theme :) http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php/?content=9051614:31
OxymoronPeace-: Possible to change how xserver does render input fields?14:32
OxymoronAlso wonder if possible to read in users on the system.14:33
OxymoronPeace-: How do you have Konsole in kate?14:35
Oxymoronnvm found it.14:36
jmuthi. having kubuntu setup up & running. I'd like to reinstall cause I got new SSD. Is it possible to  backup/upload current installtion on USB somehow to easily install or I need fresh install?14:39
jmutany tips & tricks?14:39
James147jmut: you chould just copy the files to the new disk and reconfigure some things and reinstall grub14:46
James147jmut: most notabally you need to edit /etc/fstab (denotes drives to be mounted at boot)14:48
jmutJames147: well on old disk I got kubuntu + win7.    I plan to keep it and have this SSD. on the SSD I will need the kubuntu installed, and win7 will be left on old HDD14:53
jmutJames147: basically I will install all new kubuntu.... it will find other OS I guess  ( from old HDD) and then I'll have to purge old kubuntu ( on old HDD)14:54
jmutJames147: something like that is my plan14:54
jmutJames147: something like that is my plan14:54
jmutoops.sry14:54
shadeslayerjmut: backup ~/.kde and do a fresh install on the SSD?14:59
shadeslayerit won't keep your system settings, but atleast your KDE settings will be preserved14:59
jmutshadeslayer: mm no. I will install fresh KDE on the new SSD drive....and then copy needed stuff from old drive15:01
shadeslayercool15:01
shadeslayerbest to start with a clean state sometimes :)15:01
jmutshadeslayer: yep...tons of settings though...copy it is for sure :)   btw kwallet stuff is within .kde/ right?15:02
shadeslayerafaik yes15:02
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frankie___hi. I have just installed kubuntu 12.04 beta1, and have problems with Plymouth - screen is blinking (with kubuntu logo/wallpaper - that plymouth theme) like some hundred times a second :) any hints how to fix this?15:40
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BluesKajhudred times / sec ...you have good eyes ...most lights only flicker at 50 -60 times / sec :)15:46
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BluesKajfrankie___,  ctl+alt+f1 .. you may have to login , then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , afterwards , reboot15:47
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frankie___BluesKaj: okay, will try this :)15:49
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frankie___is 12GB enough for / (root) for desktop kubuntu installation? (not dvd)16:00
frankie___(and, of course, for further installation of games and other applications)16:01
szalshould be16:02
szalat least if you have a separate /home16:02
BluesKaj12G is plenty , a large install will still only use 6-816:04
frankie___okay, going with 10G16:06
* szal would view 10 as a bit on the low side16:08
frankie___szal: /home is separated16:16
frankie___event that 10G for / is low?16:16
szal?16:17
frankie___szal: [17:08]  * szal would view 10 as a bit on the low side16:18
szalfrankie___: hence the question mark; your last question doesn't make sense16:19
frankie___let's say that I have two separate partitions - 10G for / and rest of disk for /home16:20
frankie___in this situation does 10GB is enought for /?16:20
szaldepends on your usage pattern; I wouldn't rule out the possibility of / running full over time16:21
frankie___after upgrade, still that same problem.... i see some "~^22[[", some "fsck from util-linux 2.20.1" and kubuntu wallpaper/logo is blinking16:47
frankie___until login screen (which takes so much time - about 2 minutes to boot)16:47
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jinzougenHey. When I try to visit a site which has a java applet, konquerer redirects me to the java download page on the sun website. I have the newest version available for kubuntu, but it isn't quite as new as the one on the page. How can I tell konquerer to just run the applet any not try to get the newest version?17:08
Oxymoronhello suckers!18:11
becinohi everybody18:34
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CombatjuanHello.  I'm having problems where amarok will occassionally hang.  Or sound will only play from one program at a time.  My audio playback device is PualseAudio.19:51
CombatjuanIf I go into Phonon config and select the PulseAudio Sound SErver under Device Preference tab, Audio Playback page and click 'Test', it simply hangs and no sound comes out.19:52
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bosшлздхх21:11
bosПроверка связи21:11
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jEhrichsHi all. Someone in here has some knowledge about the packaging of the Nepomuk parts from kubuntu? I'm missing a few parts that should normally be available21:32
gene__Greets all;21:48
gene__ndiswrapper problem, refuses to load bcmwlhigh5.  Ideas?21:49
gene__ndiswrapper problem, refuses to load bcmwlhigh5.  Worked well 6 months back. Ideas?21:57
quizno50Question for the gurus: I'm running Kubuntu 11.10 on a MacBook Pro and the process: upstart-udev-br is constantly running at 100% CPU. I can kill the process and the system runs fine after, but it keeps coming back. Anyone have ideas on how to fix this?22:23
Seven_Six_Twonvidia6800gt, 2 monitors of same size and frequency, xorg set to separate x screens for each monitor. for some reason, I can't see the running windows on the second monitor, although the panel is there, and I can see the window previews when I hover over task manager. All I see for the desktop itself is a gradient.23:15
SentynelSeven_Six_Two: if you're not using separate x screens for a specific reason, it works much better set to twinview configuration23:21
Seven_Six_TwoSentynel, yeah, I had it working like that for a very long time using twinview, but I'm trying to get svideo out working as well23:23
Seven_Six_TwoSentynel, the thought was that I would get separate-x working first, then enable twinview with tv and second monitor.23:23
Seven_Six_TwoSentynel, since switching on twinview for tv while both monitors are using it freezes nvidia-settings like I asked it to /023:24
Seven_Six_Twoor is it /-123:25
Seven_Six_Twotragic thing is that I have 2x nvidia 6800gt cards, but only 1 agp slot23:26
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