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[04:49] <Ultimoore> Hey all
[07:16] <DarwinSurvivor> hey
[16:04] <BobJonkman> Ubuntu Hour in Kitchener tonight, 7:00pm EST at Misty Mountain Cafe
[16:04] <genii-around> Wish I could make it :(
[16:06] <BobJonkman> genii-around!  You haven't been around
[16:07] <BobJonkman> I have to go to Toronto on Sunday -- care to have an impromptu Ubuntu Hour there?
[16:07] <genii-around> BobJonkman: I have a huge construction project on the go in the building next door, will be busy until April or so, except for Fridays.
[16:08] <genii-around> BobJonkman: Sunday is actually a really good day for that, because we have usually some people hanging out in the FreeNet office all day and tinkering
[16:08] <BobJonkman> That
[16:09] <BobJonkman> That sounds like it's good for you.  Work is better than no work
[16:10] <genii-around> BobJonkman: Yeah but these 70-100 hour work weeks are grinding me down. Hopefully I'll have enough cash stashed after for a decent new computer though
[16:11] <BobJonkman> So, will you have an hour-long break sometime on Sunday?  Maybe an Ubuntu Lunch Hour?
[16:12] <genii-around> Sounds like a possible plan. Let me see who is going to be hanging around this Sunday in the office and get back to you
[16:13] <BobJonkman> OK, let me know a place and a time and I'll put something in the LoCo calendar, post to the mailing list(s), and I'll show up with a small handful of 11.10 and 11.04 CDs
[16:13] <BobJonkman> Got to find a place to hand those out by April
[16:17] <genii-around> I've distributed most of the Oneiric CDs, I think I have some server ones and maybe 2-3 regular
[16:40] <mimcpher> How does the shiny ubuntu branded CD distribution work, anyways?  mysterious people (I've never seen who) tends to drop a box of them off at the Waterloo Computer Science Club where we hand 'em out
[16:40] <mimcpher> canonical used to mail them to us but that doesn't happen anymore
[16:40] <genii-around> mimcpher: They will ship them now out only toLoCos
[16:41] <mimcpher> Ah, I see.  We were ca.archive.ubuntu.com; they'd ship 'em to us. Now we're just a "regular" old mirror
[16:42] <genii-around> mimcpher: In your case probably dscassel is slipping in and dropping them off :)
[16:42] <mimcpher> genii-around: hmm, I have seen him around :P
[16:42] <mimcpher> Never correllated it with CD dropoffs :P
[16:43] <mimcpher> but then, I use Debian <ducks>
[16:43] <genii-around> It's all good.
[16:45] <BobJonkman> I think the UofW is still the Canadian mirror...
[16:45]  * BobJonkman checks his software repositories
[16:47] <genii-around> There was one in sherbrooke
[16:49] <mimcpher> sherbrooke's one is gone
[16:49] <mimcpher> (our reign as the supreme canadian free software mirror continues!)
[16:50] <genii-around> Heh
[16:51] <genii-around> Being in Toronto I occasionally will use yorku.ca Ubuntu repository, when the regular ones are having issues
[16:51] <BobJonkman> Hmm... ca.archive.ubuntu.com resolves to a range from 91.189.92.169 to 91.189.92.184, all of which reverse-resolve to somename.canonical.com
[16:52] <mimcpher> Waterloo throttled our bandwidth to 100mbit over a year ago, so ca.archive got pointed to canonical machines instead
[16:52] <mimcpher> (We kept saturating the university's links...)
[16:52] <mimcpher> We are ca.releases.ubuntu.com still
[16:53] <BobJonkman> Hmm.  The current ca repositories are still the fastest from Waterloo.
[16:54] <BobJonkman> Wonder where the canonical.com  servers are located?
[16:54] <mimcpher> USA somewhere
[16:54] <BobJonkman> Canonical has offices in Canada; Montreal I think..
[16:55] <mimcpher> BobJonkman: we're fast if you transit to the university via ORION, the Ontario Research Innovation Optical Network.
[16:55] <mimcpher> That'll be some canadian home ISPs, all universities/hospitals/gov't/stuff
[16:57] <mimcpher> zaurac.canonical.com is connected via Sprint; afaik they don't have operations outside the US
[16:58] <mimcpher> oh, missed a hop. They're in a european data center owned by datahop
[17:00] <BobJonkman> Nope.  On a regular consumer connection here.  "Rogers Business", but I dispute the "Business" part (in services rendered, not in revenue extracted)
[17:05] <mimcpher> Rogers peers with ORION, so yes it'll be fast
[17:12] <BobJonkman> Well, that's good to know.  Doesn't make me like Rogers any better, tho.
[17:12] <mimcpher> Bell is basically the only ISP I've tried that doesn't
[20:24] <johanbr> Hmm... Videotron appears to reach the University of Waterloo through Chicago, via Sprint and Shaw
[20:33] <mimcpher> Through chicago? Seems a bit roundabout.
[20:33] <mimcpher> I'd expect there to be Quebec -> Toronto fibre
[20:38] <johanbr>  Oh, no doubt, but I've heard Videotron is picky about their peering
[20:39] <johanbr> somewhat like Bell, but maybe not quite as bad