[00:00] <cjohnston> so if your app is "accomp" the templates would go in /accomp/templates/accomp/
[00:00] <cjohnston> jono: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/summit/trunk/view/head:/summit/schedule/templates/schedule/create_private.html   <--- the url shows the path for summit
[00:01] <jono> cjohnston, right, so I have everything nearly sorted, I am just not seeing the Ubuntu CSS
[00:01] <jono> and I use {% extends "ubuntu_website_base.html" %}
[00:01] <jono> should I specify the file location of that file?
[00:01] <cjohnston> jono: did you setup the urls?
[00:02] <jono> cjohnston, I did for my page
[00:02] <mhall119> jono: you shouldn't need to change anything in ubuntu_website
[00:02] <jono> url(r'^editor/$', 'editor.views.index'),
[00:02] <jono> t = loader.get_template('editor/index.html')
[00:02] <jono>     c = Context({
[00:02] <jono>         'latest_accom_list': latest_accom_list,
[00:02] <jono>     })
[00:02] <jono>     return HttpResponse(t.render(c))
[00:02] <cjohnston> jono: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/summit/trunk/view/head:/summit/urls.py#L91
[00:03] <jono> cjohnston, I think my url is fine, it works
[00:03] <jono> the problem I am having is showing the Ubuntu theme
[00:03] <cjohnston> right... if you look at the very last entery in urls.py, it is what directs to the css
[00:04] <mhall119> jono: you  don't need to mess with loading the template yourself
[00:04] <jono> cjohnston, aha
[00:04] <jono> mhall119, I was just following the tutorial
[00:04] <mhall119> jono: it's easier to use https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/http/shortcuts/#render-to-response
[00:04] <mhall119> that'll handle finding and loading the template for you
[00:05] <jono> mhall119, hmmm I am not 100% sure what you mean
[00:06] <mhall119> in your view, you can return render_to_response('yourapp/index.html', {'latest_accom_list': latest_accom_list}, RequestContext(request))
[00:06] <mhall119> and not do any loader.get_template junk
[00:10] <jono> ok so I am using that now
[00:10] <jono> but I still don't see the CSS, so it looks like I need to update the urls, right?
[00:10] <mhall119> which css?
[00:10] <mhall119> from ubuntu_website, or your own ?
[00:11] <jono> mhall119, ubuntu
[00:11] <jono> mhall119, so I am not seeing the ubuntu css design
[00:12] <jono> I have my template loading fine, just no Ubuntu branding
[00:12] <cjohnston> (r'^ubuntu-website/media/(?P<path>.*)$', 'django.views.static.serve', {'document_root': ubuntu_website.MEDIA_ROOT}),
[00:13] <mhall119> oh right, you need that ^^
[00:13] <mhall119> when running from ./manage.py runserver, you have to tell Django to serve the media files
[00:14] <mhall119> in production, you typically have Apache serving them directly, bypassing django
[00:14] <jono> mhall119, hmm still not running
[00:14] <jono> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/864340/
[00:15] <cjohnston> jono: your still missing some: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/summit/trunk/view/head:/summit/urls.py#L91
[00:16] <jono> ahh
[00:17] <cjohnston> i think...
[00:17] <cjohnston> hrm
[00:17] <jono> still no luck
[00:17] <mhall119> jono: pastebin your index.html template
[00:18] <jono> mhall119, sure
[00:18] <jono> mhall119, to test I just pasted the template you mailed me
[00:18] <mhall119> the base.html?
[00:18] <jono> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/864342/
[00:19] <jono> oh
[00:19] <jono> that needs to be base.html ?
[00:19] <cjohnston> jono: yes
[00:19] <cjohnston> base.html provides the "base" layout for the entire site
[00:19] <cjohnston> index.html, and all other pages will extend base.html
[00:20] <mhall119> yeah, base.html will provide the menus and footer for your whole site
[00:20] <cjohnston> that way you arent putting the whole header and the whole footer etc in each template page
[00:20] <mhall119> then index.html will extend that, and just define the content block
[00:20] <mhall119> ubuntu_website_base.html->base.html->index.html is how it will inherit
[00:21] <jono> right
[00:21] <jono> sp"
[00:21] <jono> so:
[00:21] <jono> {% extends "base.html" %}
[00:21] <jono> {% block content %}
[00:21] <jono> Testing!
[00:21] <jono> {% endblock %}
[00:21] <jono> for index.html?
[00:21] <cjohnston> yes
[00:21] <mhall119> yup
[00:22] <jono> ok, I added that
[00:22] <dedicated1_> jono are you from the ubuntu loco stream or another jono? :)
[00:22] <mhall119> ok, where did you put base.html?
[00:22] <jono> Caught TemplateDoesNotExist while rendering: base.html
[00:22] <cjohnston> dedicated1_: jono is the jono
[00:22] <jono> mhall119, in the same dir as index
[00:22] <dedicated1_> haha roger
[00:22] <jono> dedicated1_, I am from the loco stream
[00:22] <mhall119> jono: and where is index?
[00:22] <jono> mhall119, in templates/editor in my project
[00:22] <mhall119> in the project or the app?
[00:23] <jono> project
[00:23] <dedicated1_> jono calling me: dead cat or something on his stream xD d3d1cat3d was the name there lmao
[00:23] <mhall119> Django will lookup template as <project_root>/<app>/templates/<template_name>
[00:23] <jono> jono@forge2:~/source/accomplishmentseditor$ ls
[00:23] <jono> editor       __init__.pyc  settings.py   settings.pyc  ubuntu_website  urls.py~
[00:23] <jono> __init__.py  manage.py     settings.py~  templates     urls.py         urls.pyc
[00:23] <jono> ahhh
[00:23] <mhall119> so put it in ~/source/accomplishmentseditor/editor/template/base.html
[00:24] <cjohnston> hehe.. jonoforge
[00:24] <cjohnston> like sourceforge on metal
[00:25] <dedicated1_> lol
[00:25] <mhall119> dead cat, lol
[00:25] <jono> dedicated1_, :-)
[00:25] <jono> mhall119, ok I moved it, and I see the template, but no CSS
[00:25] <mhall119> he must have that dead mouse dj on the brain
[00:25] <jono> btw, is this right: return render_to_response('index.html', {'latest_accom_list': latest_accom_list})
[00:26] <mhall119> you need a 3rd parameter
[00:26] <mhall119> RequestContext(request)
[00:26] <mhall119> remember the TEMPLATE_CONTEXT_PROCESSORS variable we had to setup earlier?  RequestContext is what uses that to fill in site-wide variable in your templates
[00:26] <jono> as in: return render_to_response('index.html', {'latest_accom_list': latest_accom_list}, RequestContext(request))
[00:27] <mhall119> yes
[00:27] <jono> global name 'RequestContext' is not defined
[00:27] <dedicated1_> damn with all this work going on I feel like disturbing you guys while at work lol
[00:27] <jono> do I need to import something?
[00:27] <jono> dedicated1_, well, we are at work :-)
[00:27] <cjohnston> yes
[00:27] <mhall119> from django.template import RequestContext
[00:27] <jono> well, mhall119 isnt, he finished earlier
[00:27] <cjohnston> jono: im trying to get him to do code reviews for me since he is off now.. he refuses :-(
[00:27] <dedicated1_> but why in a public channel if it's work? xD
[00:27] <mhall119> for some definition of "finished" that still has me here doing quasi-work related stuff
[00:27] <jono> alrighty!
[00:28] <jono> dedicated1_, because Ubuntu is a public project
[00:28] <jono> we do most things out in the open
[00:28] <jono> mhall119, :-)
[00:28] <dedicated1_> jono: ahh alrighty
[00:28] <jono> thanks cjohnston, mhall119 I think I am good to go now and keep going
[00:28] <mhall119> jono: good luck
[00:28] <cjohnston> css working?
[00:28] <jono> it looks like some of the CSS is broken
[00:29] <jono> like the buttons and the links
[00:29] <mhall119> jono: if you get stuck, #django is a helpful place
[00:29] <jono> thanks mhall119
[00:29] <mhall119> hey cjohnston, do you guys still have seaworld passes?
[00:29] <cjohnston> yes
[00:29] <dedicated1_> jono: I'll soon be orginasing a jam because of your live stream, but first I need to find something I can contribute on myself and also see if I know how to do it aswell ;)
[00:29] <mhall119> Michelle just got some for us
[00:29] <cjohnston> cool
[00:30] <cjohnston> we are going saturday
[00:30] <mhall119> dedicated1_: organise the jam first, figure out what to to later (or never, socializing is okay too)
[00:30] <cjohnston> beer
[00:30] <jono> dedicated1_, cool!
[00:30] <mhall119> cjohnston: they're over there right now
[00:30] <mhall119> which is why I don't feel bad for continuing to work
[00:30] <cjohnston> they should stop by and say hi
[00:30] <dedicated1_> haha fun is cool but at least I'd like something to learn then ^^
[00:31] <cjohnston> mhall119: then in that case.. summit reviews
[00:31] <mhall119> dedicated1_: if nothing else, put 12.04 on a USB thumbdrive, boot people's laptops with it and run the test suite
[00:31] <cjohnston> practice making ubuntinis
[00:31] <mhall119> cjohnston: dammit, I shouldn't have said anything
[00:31] <cjohnston> herheheeheheheheheheehhehehehhehehheehhehehehhe
[00:31] <cjohnston> he
[00:31] <dedicated1_> ubuntinis? god there's some weird terms in here lol
[00:32] <mhall119> ubutuni == Ubuntu Martinis
[00:32] <dedicated1_> who would have ever guessed that haha
[00:32] <cjohnston> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntini
[00:32] <dedicated1_> O_o
[00:33] <dedicated1_> god that looks delicious
[00:33] <dedicated1_> great pic
[00:33] <mhall119> then there's whatever it was they served in Budapest
[00:34] <mhall119> that was an unnatural orange for a beverage
[00:34] <cjohnston> heh
[00:34] <cjohnston> beer
[00:34] <dedicated1_> xD
[00:35] <dedicated1_> btw, if I'd install a 12.04 version (aplha beta?) will it auto update to the stable version when it's released?
[00:35] <greg-g> dedicated1_: yep
[00:35] <cjohnston> you have to do it, but yes
[00:36] <cjohnston> you can upgrade a few times a day normlall
[00:36] <cjohnston> normally
[00:36] <dedicated1_> I can upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 beta too?
[00:36] <dedicated1_> through the updates
[00:37] <cjohnston> yes.. you can
[00:37] <dedicated1_> cool :)
[00:37] <bkerensa> yep
[00:37] <mhall119> update-manager -d
[00:37] <bkerensa> so no sushi for lunch... I had Popeyes Chicken
[00:37] <mhall119> will tell it to look for the development release
[00:37] <mhall119> bkerensa: close enough
[00:37] <bkerensa> but Im gonna go have dinner with my friend from yahoo and have sushi now :D
[00:37] <bkerensa> then maybe find a place to do some boozing
[00:37] <mhall119> it'll be pizza
[00:38] <dedicated1_> I already had sushi earlier today ^^
[00:38] <dedicated1_> on nom
[00:39]  * mhall119 hasn't had sushi in years
[00:40]  * cjohnston wants sushi
[00:40] <bkerensa> mhall119: Do you come to PDX at all? If you come up we can do a Ubuntu Hour and Sushi and Booze afterwards
[00:40] <bkerensa> my favorite place to booze: http://groundkontrol.com/
[00:41] <mhall119> bkerensa: it's a bit of a drive for me
[00:42] <mhall119> 3,044 miles, according to Google
[00:43] <mhall119> Google says I can do it in 2 days, I think it lies
[00:44] <dedicated1_> dunno how far for me, I'd have to cross half the world to get there xD
[00:46] <bkerensa> mhall119: Expense a flight
[00:46] <bkerensa> :P
[00:47] <mhall119> bkerensa: easier said than done
[00:47] <dedicated1_> hehe
[00:47] <mhall119> bkerensa: but if you come down to Oakland in May, we can definitely find some sushi and booze
[00:47] <cjohnston> +1
[00:47] <bkerensa> mhall119: jono holds community leadership summit in June and you could expense it as community management training :P
[00:47] <bkerensa> mhall119: I think I applied for that :P
[00:47] <bkerensa> so we shall see
[00:48] <mhall119> bkerensa: still easier said than done
[00:48] <bkerensa> Berkeley has pretty good Sushi :P not sure about Oakland :)
[00:48] <mhall119> When I think of sushi,  I automatically think of Oakland
[00:49] <bkerensa> lol
[00:49] <jono> Oakland has awesome sushi
[00:49] <dedicated1_> tried to make a launchpad account and after I gave my confirmation code and clicked log me in I got: An attribute required for logging in was not returned (nickname).
[00:49] <jono> so I am told
[00:49] <jono> I hate sushi, personally
[00:49] <dedicated1_> anyone had this before aswell?
[00:49] <bkerensa> jono: What!
[00:49]  * pleia2 invites everyone over the bridge
[00:49] <cjohnston> dedicated1_: when you go to login, you have to check the box next to nickname
[00:49] <pleia2> yummy sushi :)
[00:49] <bkerensa> jono: What is your favorite american dish then?
[00:49] <mhall119> dedicated1_: there's a process that syncs Launchpad username to Ubuntu SSO, it may take a bit for that magic to happen
[00:49] <jono> bkerensa, I am a big BBQ fan
[00:50] <cjohnston> bbq ftw
[00:50] <mhall119> jono: next tie you're in Orlando, you can try some of mine
[00:50] <bkerensa> jono: Famous Daves BBQ when you come up for CLS then?
[00:50] <bkerensa> :)
[00:50] <cprofitt> Jono you have to come visit me at some point then
[00:50] <cprofitt> can take you to Dinasaur BBQ
[00:50] <cjohnston> mhall119 makes some perdy good bbq
[00:50] <dedicated1_> it only has the boxes: full name and email which I unticked
[00:50] <cjohnston> dedicated1_: no unticking
[00:50] <pleia2> yes! dinosaur bbq!
[00:50] <bkerensa> My BBQ skills are mediocre at best...
[00:50] <mhall119> jono: if I remember, I'll bring you a jar of my dry rub in May
[00:50] <pleia2> best eaten at the New York State Fair :)
[00:51] <jono> mhall119, thanks!
[00:51] <jono> cprofitt, :-)
[00:51] <dedicated1_> cjonston: how come? I never share my name xD
[00:51] <cjohnston> dedicated1_: then put a fake name
[00:51] <cprofitt> pleia2: its darn good at their original location too -- in Syracuse with a few of the wives still waitressing
[00:51] <mhall119> dedicated1_: summit needs your username
[00:51] <dedicated1_> kk I'll tick it
[00:51] <pleia2> cprofitt: haha, nice
[00:51] <cprofitt> they tell you to go get <censored> when you ask for stuff
[00:51] <pleia2> lol
[00:51] <cprofitt> its a very unique ambiance
[00:52] <pleia2> ah, new york :)
[00:52] <dedicated1_> mhall119: it askes for my full real name, not my nickname
[00:52] <mhall119> oh, we don't need that for summit
[00:52] <mhall119> just the nickname
[00:52] <mhall119> which is the error you got
[00:52] <jono> cjohnston, mhall119 so I am now at a point where I am ready to create my form where the accom can be edited
[00:52] <cprofitt> its the fact that they are bikers I think...
[00:52] <jono> is there a way to just display the admin form?
[00:52] <mhall119> no
[00:52] <jono> or do I need to manually construct the form?
[00:52] <mhall119> the ModelAdmin you made is really just for the /admin/ site
[00:52] <cjohnston> yes
[00:52] <dedicated1_> but the uption to tick "username" isn't there for me
[00:52] <jono> right
[00:52] <jono> gotcha
[00:53] <cjohnston> jono: its just as easy
[00:53] <mhall119> fortunately, there is a ModelForm that will build a form from your model
[00:53] <jono> oh cool
[00:53] <cprofitt> jono: http://www.foodnetwork.com/the-best-thing-i-ever-ate/bar-b-que/index.html
[00:53] <cprofitt> they are event listed on Foodnetwork
[00:54] <jono> cprofitt, cool!
[00:54] <cprofitt> http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/06/man_v_food_at_dinosaur_bar-b-q.html
[00:54] <cprofitt> yeah...
[00:54] <ChrisGagnon> mhall119 bkerensa I got my event listed on http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1443/detail/ today.  Thanks for your help last night!
[00:54] <cprofitt> in 2009 Good Morning America named it the best BBQ in the country
[00:54] <mhall119> jono: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.3/topics/forms/modelforms/
[00:55] <mhall119> ChrisGagnon: great to hear!
[00:55] <jono> mhall119, just readind this now :-)
[00:55] <dedicated1_> lol I ticked everything and am still getting the same error
[00:55] <cjohnston> dedicated1_: what is your nickname
[00:55] <dedicated1_> lol weird got it working
[00:55] <dedicated1_> I clicked on send report
[00:56] <dedicated1_> it send log in
[00:56] <cjohnston> k
[00:56] <dedicated1_> then it worked
[00:57] <mhall119> dedicated1_: like I said, it probably was waiting for your new launchpad username to get sync'd with Ubuntu SSO
[00:58] <dedicated1_> hehe
[00:58] <jono> mhall119, so do I create the ModelForm in the view and then pass it to the template?
[00:59] <mhall119> jono: you create a new form class that inherits from ModelForm
[00:59] <mhall119> then you create an instance of that in your view, and pass it to the template
[00:59] <jono> mhall119, ahh I see
[00:59] <mhall119> so, you make class AccomplishmentForm(ModelForm):
[00:59] <jono> mhall119, so do I create the new form class in another python file?
[01:00] <mhall119> you can, or just before your view function in views.py
[01:00] <mhall119> it's convention to use a forms.py though
[01:00] <jono> ok
[01:00] <dedicated1_> wait I create a launchpad account to add an event I want to organise and it says I am not part of a team xD where do I add a local event? srry for all the trouble lol
[01:01] <mhall119> dedicated1_: you have to join a loco team on Launchpad
[01:02] <mhall119> then the next time you log in to loco.ubuntu.com, it will know you're a member of that team, and let you register events for that team
[01:07] <dedicated1_> sweet
[01:08] <dedicated1_> would be cool if there's any Dutch people near me in my team
[01:08] <cprofitt> dedicated1_: there likely are people near you
[01:08] <dedicated1_> good to hear
[01:08] <dedicated1_> netherland is small anyway so that helps
[01:44] <jono> mhall119, cjohnston in terms of pre-populating a form with data from a record, should I just pass it the instance and it should automatically pre-populate?
[01:45] <cjohnston> hrm
[01:45] <cjohnston> I believe so
[01:45] <cjohnston> we normally do two different forms, and create and an edit
[01:45] <cjohnston> but yes, the edit when you pass the info will prepopulate
[01:45] <mhall119> jono: yes, if you pass instance= to your form, it'll bind itself to that instance
[01:46] <jono> cjohnston, so I don't need to do anything in the view or template, it should automatically pre-populate?
[01:46] <mhall119> an calling form.save() will also call instance.save()
[01:46] <jono> I doing this:
[01:46] <jono> def detail(request, accom_id):
[01:46] <jono>     a = Accomplishment.objects.get(id=accom_id)
[01:46] <jono>     f = AccomplishmentForm(request.POST, instance=a)
[01:46] <jono>     return render_to_response('detail.html', {'AccomplishmentForm': f}, RequestContext(request))
[01:46] <cjohnston> in the view you need to pass the instance
[01:46] <mhall119> jono: exactly
[01:47] <jono> mhall119, unfortunatly it doesnt seem to render the forum
[01:47] <jono> form
[01:47] <jono> sorry, pre-populate
[01:47] <jono> it renders the form, but doesn't pre-populate
[01:47] <jono> oh hang on
[01:47] <jono> I think I am being an idiot
[01:48] <mhall119> I'll excuse it
[01:48] <jono> oh no
[01:48] <jono> it should work
[01:48] <jono> but it isnt
[01:48] <mhall119> pastebin your detail.html
[01:49] <jono> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/864426/
[01:52] <jono> mhall119, ^
[01:52] <mhall119> jono: looking, but it seems okay...
[01:52] <jono> mhall119, ahh
[01:53] <mhall119> jono: try not passing request.POST to your form
[01:53] <jono> mhall119, that looks like it fixed it
[01:53] <mhall119> you'll need an if request.method == 'POST': eventually, to handle POST requests
[01:54] <mhall119> let me find you an example
[01:54] <jono> thanks
[01:54] <jono> it seems to have not selected the default values for the drop down boxes
[01:56] <mhall119> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltp-devs/loco-team-portal/0.2/view/head:/loco_directory/events/views.py#L269 shows you how we check if it's a POST, and handle the form differently
[01:57] <mhall119> jono: does your 'a' variable have a value for that drop-down field?
[01:58] <jono> oh it looks like it is working
[01:58] <jono> thanks mhall119
[01:58] <jono> now I just need to figure out how to submit the form
[01:58] <jono> and then I am on my way :-)
[01:59] <cjohnston> jono: when are we gonna see this magical site? tonight?
[01:59] <cjohnston> lol
[01:59] <mhall119> jono: look over the link I posted above for LTP events
[01:59] <jono> mhall119, one quick q - in terms of doing the bulk of the processing, should this all happen in views?
[01:59] <jono> cjohnston, hah, unlikely
[01:59] <mhall119> yeah
[01:59] <jono> cjohnston, I learned django for the first time today
[01:59] <jono> so I am pleased how far I have got :-)
[01:59] <cjohnston> i know
[01:59] <cjohnston> im impressed
[02:00] <cjohnston> but you know python already, so that helps alot
[02:00] <mhall119> jono: jcastro says he has a juju charm for Django apps, make him deploy it
[02:00]  * mhall119 is off to pickup chinese-takeout for dinner
[02:00] <jono> mhall119, indeed
[02:00] <jono> http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7177/6945288845_904cbbefb3_o.png
[02:01] <jono> cjohnston, I am also a bit of a python n00b
[02:03] <jono> is __init__.py the place to put things for when I start the app?
[02:04] <cjohnston> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/summit/trunk/view/head:/summit/schedule/models/__init__.py
[02:11] <jono> cjohnston, do you know if it is possible to add extra form elements on the fly, like how you can in the admin interface?
[02:12] <jono> e.g. if someone wants to add another step in the accomplishment so it adds another text box
[02:18] <mhall119> jono: you'll need inline formsets, which gets into some of the hairier side of django
[02:18] <jono> mhall119, interesting
[02:22] <cprofitt> you guys are working late... must be crunch time heh?
[02:27] <jono> cprofitt, just enjoying some hacking :-)
[02:28] <cprofitt> cool...
[02:29] <mhall119> cprofitt: raking in that over-time pay
[02:29] <cprofitt> lol
[02:32] <cjohnston> I want OT pay
[02:46] <jcastro> cjohnston: NINJA.
[02:46] <jcastro> cjohnston: you have a webcam at home or a tablet so I can G+ to the jam at least?
[02:47] <jcastro> we almost got it with mhall on G+ with us in budapest, but for some reason on my tablet G+ing a person mutes the audio.
[02:48] <cjohnston> jcastro: hrmm.... i may be able to move a desktop with a webcam out there
[02:49] <cjohnston> I'll try to make it happen..
[03:06] <jcastro> cjohnston: oooh, if you had a projector I could oversee you all like minions
[03:09] <cjohnston> jcastro: i could hook it to the tv
[03:10] <cjohnston> heh
[03:10] <cjohnston> have a 55" jcastro
[03:44] <jcastro> cprofitt: if it makes you feel better, I'm watching TV
[03:45] <cprofitt> jcastro: yeah.... that helps
[03:45] <cprofitt> :-)
[03:45] <cprofitt> night all... gonna head off to sleep
[03:46] <cjohnston> g'nite cp
[07:20] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:20] <pleia2> what, it's not awaking time yet
[07:20]  * pleia2 hugs czajkowski 
[07:20] <czajkowski> pleia2: morning
[07:20] <czajkowski> why are you up so late missy
[07:21] <pleia2> it's only 11:20 :)
[07:21] <czajkowski> ahhh
[07:21]  * czajkowski has physio this morning 
[07:21] <czajkowski> then the mothership invades for the weekend
[07:21] <pleia2> I am complaining about the cold winter with my fellow californians, it's funny
[07:21] <pleia2> ah, busy day then!
[07:21] <czajkowski> it's rather mild over here which is nice
[07:21] <czajkowski> pleia2: yeah an hr of torture awaits me
[07:21] <pleia2> it's about 4C here now, cold ;)
[07:22]  * czajkowski hugs pleia2 for using C 
[07:22] <pleia2> been getting this low at night for a month!
[07:23] <czajkowski> cannot believe I've almost 3 weeks done at the new job
[07:23] <czajkowski> that flew
[07:23] <pleia2> :)
[07:24] <czajkowski> right off for torture time
[07:24] <czajkowski> toodles
[07:24] <pleia2> good luck
[07:28] <head_victim> It's a cool 27C here :)
[07:28] <pleia2> 18C is good, it's usually that here
[07:29] <pleia2> 27 too hot, 4 too cold :)
[07:29] <head_victim> A constant 18 would be perfect actually
[07:29] <pleia2> it is mostly paradise here
[07:30] <head_victim> Our humidity is the killer here though, not the actual temperature.
[07:30] <pleia2> head_victim: coming to UDS? :)
[07:30] <head_victim> pleia2: nah, can't afford the trip or the time off work :/
[07:30]  * pleia2 nods
[07:30] <pleia2> time off work is always really tricky
[07:30] <head_victim> I really do want to make one though so when I have a bit more time at work I might apply for sponsorship
[07:31] <head_victim> (I work in a non IT field, Linux is a hobby not a job)
[07:31] <pleia2> ah, gotcha
[07:31] <head_victim> Hence why I'm useless with anything technical I've never had to do previously. I only learn stuff as I need it really.
[07:31] <pleia2> I can usually justify UDS attendance to my boss, IT is my field, but my sysadmin work in debian doesn't actually have much to do with Ubuntu
[07:32] <head_victim> The airfare alone from down here would kill me.
[07:32] <pleia2> so I have to sell it as being on the cutting edge of the blah blah blah of Ubuntu's awesomeness
[07:32] <pleia2> yeah, it can be expensive
[07:33] <pleia2> this is the first one I'm attending without sponsorship, and that's because it costs me $8 round trip to get to the venue (train)
[07:33] <pleia2> and about 20 minutes
[07:33] <head_victim> Hah nice. Well if they ever have one in my home town I'll call in sick if I had to ;)
[07:33] <pleia2> :D
[07:34] <head_victim> I currently have over 500 hours of sick leave and annual leave owing but if I take it, no one does my job when I'm away.
[07:35] <pleia2> yeah, I know how that is
[07:35] <pleia2> I'm the main sysadmin where I work, my boss saves up customer requests while I'm gone (he does systems work too, but mostly he's running the business)
[07:46] <jono> morning dholbach
[07:46] <jono> night dholbach
[07:46] <jono> :-)
[07:46] <head_victim> pleia2: at least you know your job is safe ;)
[07:46] <dholbach> hey jono
[07:46] <pleia2> head_victim: haha, indeed :)
[07:46] <dholbach> good morning
[07:47] <pleia2> hi dholbach
[07:47] <dholbach> hey pleia2
[07:47] <dholbach> it's not only beginning of UGJ and Fix-It Friday, but also ARM Porting Jam: http://rsalveti.wordpress.com/2012/03/02/arm-porting-jam-this-friday/ :)
[07:50] <bkerensa> dholbach: Too much jam in the fridge.... Which one to spread
[07:53] <dholbach> :)
[08:02] <locodir-user> thanks
[08:03] <locodir-user> can anybody tell me what is new in 12.04v?
[08:03] <bkerensa> locodir-user: More info is available on omgubuntu.co.uk under the Beta 1 article
[08:06] <locodir-user> k.... i'll check on it...
[08:07] <locodir-user> my query ...... why ubuntu is free???
[08:18] <dpm> good morning all
[08:20] <dholbach> yo dpm
[08:20] <dholbach> dpm, can we update the packaging guide? :)
[08:20] <dpm> dholbach, hey Alter. Sure, I can do it manually straight away. Did it not get updated yesterday?
[08:22] <dpm> done, does it look ok now?
[08:24] <dholbach> dpm, weird it should be r78
[08:25] <dpm> dholbach, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/864738/
[08:26] <dpm> so it seems it's fetched the right one
[08:26] <dpm> at least
[08:27] <dholbach> but it seems to mess up the rest of the script :)
[08:29] <dholbach> dpm, did you set OUTPUT_DIR?
[08:29] <dpm> dholbach, ah, that was it, let me re-run...
[08:29] <dholbach> :-)
[08:31] <dpm> dholbach, ok, updated with the right version now
[08:31] <dpm> enjoy :)
[08:31] <dholbach> great, thanks
[08:31] <dholbach> now the permanent '¶' are gone
[08:31] <dholbach> it's a bit less painful on the eyes now
[08:33] <dpm> :)
[08:55] <dpm> dholbach, do you happen to know if with bzr you can branch just selected directories instead of the whole tree?
[08:57] <dholbach> no, I'm not aware of such an option
[09:06] <dpm> ok, thanks
[09:07] <czajkowski> torture over
[09:14] <dpm> czajkowski, being tortured, or torturing someone else? ;)
[09:17] <czajkowski> dpm: being :) just had physio on my back
[09:18] <czajkowski> 3 weeks of 2 1 hr sessions a week
[09:18] <dpm> do they help?
[09:19] <czajkowski> yup a lot, just trying to get extra movement in my back post op
[09:19] <czajkowski> but it does help just hurts :)
[09:19] <czajkowski> dpm: did the mail re translations mailing lists make sense
[09:20] <dpm> czajkowski, it did, I just have to find the time to go over it, but I would think many of them can be deleted. Before doing that, though I'd recommend sending an e-mail to the team's owner.
[09:23] <czajkowski> dpm: aye was going to do tat also
[09:23] <czajkowski> but just wondered was there a central mailing list for translations?
[09:24] <dpm> czajkowski, yeah, it's ubuntu-translators@ lists ubuntu com - ok, so let's unblock that now. Give me two mins to go through the list first...
[09:31] <dpm> czajkowski, ok, replied
[09:31] <czajkowski> np thanks
[10:32] <dpm> jussi, who can I ping to install bugbot on #ubuntu-translators? I already asked on #ubuntu-ops a few days ago, but received no reply
[10:51] <czajkowski> dpm: poke AlanBell
[10:55] <dpm> AlanBell, :-) ^^
[11:04] <s-fox> Hello.
[11:08] <AlanBell> oh pokeage
[11:13] <dpm> thanks :)
[11:13] <dpm> hi s-fox
[11:14] <s-fox> Hello dpm , how are you doing?
[11:15] <dpm> fine, just finishing a few things before going for lunch. I have to celebrate that it's Friday, so I'll have to go out somewhere nice for lunch :)
[11:15] <s-fox> =)
[11:51] <ScG^Dedicated> good morning
[11:52] <s-fox> o/ ScG^Dedicated :)
[11:52] <ScG^Dedicated> \o
[11:52] <ScG^Dedicated> got a rejection after applying to team-nederland last night :\
[11:53] <czajkowski> ScG^Dedicated: eh?
[11:53] <ScG^Dedicated> The status of your membership in the team Ubuntu Nederland (ubuntu-nl)
[11:53] <ScG^Dedicated> was changed by leoquant (leoquant) from Proposed to Declined.
[11:54] <czajkowski> ScG^Dedicated: any reason as to why ?
[11:54] <czajkowski> do you have to apply for membership for the loco ?
[11:54] <ScG^Dedicated> no reason in the email
[11:54] <czajkowski> sense_: ping
[11:54] <ScG^Dedicated> looks like an auto email
[11:54] <sense_> czajkowski: pong
[11:54] <czajkowski> sense_: does the nl team moderate who can join the loco ?
[11:56] <sense_> ScG^Dedicated, czajkowski: We do not have membership, the ubuntu-nl team is used to show which teams are semi-officially recognized. If you want to show your membership of the community, you can join the LP team at <https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-nl-community>.
[11:56] <sense_> The warning should be clear: "***** DIT TEAM KENT GEEN INDIVIDUEEL LIDMAATSCHAP *****"
[11:56] <czajkowski> sense_: what do you mean semin offical recconfised?
[11:57] <ScG^Dedicated> wel it's confusing what the individual means in this case really
[11:57] <sense_> czajkowski: Practical recognition, in order to be able to work flexible, there are no official sub groups. If people want to start a group, they can just start. If they need to permission thing from LP, they can join the LP team.
[11:59] <czajkowski> sense_: thats not really how locoteams work
[11:59] <czajkowski> they all have a team on lp
[11:59] <czajkowski> and people join that
[11:59] <sense_> czajkowski: We have a subteam for people to join.
[11:59] <ScG^Dedicated> really I am already damn confused xD
[12:00] <czajkowski> why the need for a sub team ? is what I'm trying to figure out
[12:00] <sense_> We want to contain the open joining, though, that's why we're using a subteam.
[12:00] <czajkowski> ScG^Dedicated: you're not the only one
[12:00] <czajkowski> ScG^Dedicated: why do you need to contain who can join
[12:00] <sense_> Because we don't want any team to join so it can pretend it belongs to us.
[12:01] <czajkowski> sense_: there is still no need for a sub team, really.
[12:01] <czajkowski> you just moderaate the people joining
[12:02] <czajkowski> but ScG^Dedicated got rejected from joingin which seems very oposite of being open and about ubuntu locoteams tbh
[12:03] <ScG^Dedicated> okay ubuntu nederland is listed as an approved team, so I thought i'd be okay to join O_o
[12:03] <sense_> czajkowski: His application was rejected because he was trying to join to wrong team. The rejection notice probably should have explained that, I'll mention that to leoquant, but the way we currently work it was simply the wrong team. We have a subteam for joining.
[12:03] <sense_> ScG^Dedicated: We're not approved for a few months now.
[12:03] <ScG^Dedicated> ohh well it's says on the site you do :P
[12:04] <czajkowski> sense_: they were reapproved recently
[12:04] <sense_> Huh?!
[12:04] <ScG^Dedicated> i gues the difference is team: ubuntu nederland and ubuntu nederland community?
[12:05] <sense_> ScG^Dedicated: 'ubuntu-nl' is just an umbrella LP team, 'ubuntu-nl-community' is the LP team for everyone.
[12:05] <ScG^Dedicated> roger then I'll join that now thnx
[12:05] <sense_> ok!
[12:06] <czajkowski> sense_: th it still doesnt make much sense
[12:06] <czajkowski> wil mention it to the LC
[12:07] <ScG^Dedicated> join teams should link to the community teams I'd think
[12:07] <ScG^Dedicated> not the not joinable teams :P
[12:07] <sense_> ScG^Dedicated: I agree we should make it clearer.
[12:08] <ScG^Dedicated> good to hear that :)
[12:09] <sense_> I'll mention it on the council meeting 10 March.
[12:10] <ScG^Dedicated> cool, I hope it helps for the future people willing to join
[12:11] <sense_> I hope so, we do want to encourage people!
[12:12] <ScG^Dedicated> well you surely got my attention. from facebook to jono to the loco teams :) worked like a charm
[12:39] <dholbach> mhall119, should https://code.launchpad.net/~taltos/ubuntu/precise/scribes/add_quicklist/+merge/95289 be rejected too?
[12:39] <dholbach> and https://code.launchpad.net/~arthur-talpaert/ubuntu/precise/supertuxkart/add_quicklist/+merge/94961
[12:42] <daker> dpm, do you know why d.u.c is loading two versions of jQuery ?
[12:58] <cprofitt> balloons: ping
[12:59] <cprofitt> got a dependency error when I tried to install checkbox-app-testing last night
[13:05] <mhall119> dholbach: is scribes in main or universe?
[13:05] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~$ apt-cache show scribes | grep ^Fil
[13:05] <dholbach> Filename: pool/universe/s/scribes/scribes_0.4~r910-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[13:05] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~$
[13:05] <dholbach> universe :)
[13:05] <mhall119> dholbach: then yes, but let me comment on it first
[13:06] <dholbach> sure sure
[13:06] <dholbach> can you ask in #ubuntu-devel to get the two rejected then?
[13:06] <dholbach> somebody like pitti should be able to do it
[13:06] <dholbach> I'm out taking the dog for a walk
[13:06] <mhall119> dholbach: sure
[13:06] <dholbach> thanks
[13:09] <dholbach> balloons, it seems like your ppa build succeeded finally - can I remove the packages on people.c.c now?
[13:25] <mhall119> dpm: I updated your spreadsheet last night
[13:26] <mhall119> in the notes of the sound menu and message menu
[13:28] <nigelb> oh wow, irssi teaches me lots of things. TIL /sb end. Scrollback down to the end in case you scrolled up too much.
[13:36] <mhall119> nigelb: it taught me that I never have to /part a channel or /close a PM, just add more!
[13:37] <mhall119> I installed advanced window list when I hit 30 windows, now I'm in the 90's
[13:37] <nigelb> mhall119: I also learned this one -> /foreach query /unquery
[13:37] <nigelb> Closes all PM windows.
[13:37] <nigelb> If you want to do that at some point ;)
[13:38] <mhall119> nice
[13:40] <dpm> mhall119, cool, I'll be moving more stuff to d.u.c today
[13:41] <mhall119> dpm: grand!
[13:41] <mhall119> ^^ was for czajkowski
[13:41] <mhall119> because I had alreasy types 'awe' before I caught myself
[13:42] <nigelb> mhall119: "splendid"
[13:52] <snap-l> Ubuntu-haters theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbMXPsmyAiI
[14:40] <czajkowski> nigelb: eh ?
[14:40] <czajkowski> mhall119: eh ??
[14:42] <nigelb> czajkowski: "awesome"...
[14:42] <czajkowski> pah
[14:42] <czajkowski>  /ignore :)
[14:42] <nigelb> hehe
[14:42] <cprofitt> nigelb: use a new word or two... like "totally rad"
[14:42] <cprofitt> you can take us back to the 1980s
[14:42] <cprofitt> :-)
[14:43] <nigelb> haha
[14:44] <cprofitt> awesome takes us too far back... no need to go back to 1598
[14:45] <nigelb> lololol
[14:48] <s-fox> rad... my house has a few of them.. ;)
[14:50] <nigelb> radiator?
[14:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> rat* ? ;P and hello team
[14:58] <s-fox> nigelb,  Rad is a slang term for a radiator
[14:58] <s-fox> :)
[15:28] <mhall119> czajkowski: I *did* use a new word
[15:31] <czajkowski> well done
[15:31] <czajkowski> that is very good
[15:31] <czajkowski> :)
[15:36] <technoviking> crap I can use alt key window change in weechat anymore in Unity
[15:38] <mhall119> technoviking: alt+left/right?
[15:53] <jono> morning all!
[15:53] <dholbach> oi jono
[15:53] <s-fox> o/ jono
[15:54] <jono> howdy!
[15:54] <czajkowski> CDCD
[15:54] <czajkowski> bah!!!!
[15:56] <technoviking> mhall119: YUP
[15:56] <jono> czajkowski, CDCD?
[15:57] <s-fox> technoviking,  Ping
[15:57] <cjohnston> ACDC
[15:57] <technoviking> worked a couple of days ago, but I'm in Unity testing
[15:57] <technoviking> s-fox: pong
[15:57] <s-fox> technoviking,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1934110
[15:57] <jono> dpm, dholbach, jcastro, balloons, mhall119 demo day in 3mins
[15:57] <s-fox> Search playing up on the forum, might be related to the upgrade
[15:57] <dpm> jono, ok
[15:57] <s-fox> Only seems to play up for non-staff technoviking
[15:57] <jcastro> yeap!
[15:57] <dholbach> jono, yep
[15:58] <czajkowski> jono: I cant ctrl alt left/rigt to work spaces and forgot keys wouold type here
[15:58] <jono> got my first ever Ubuntu Accomplishments merge proposal :-)
[15:58] <dholbach> woohoo
[15:58] <jono> czajkowski, yeah they are switching that back
[15:58] <jcastro> nice!
[15:59] <mhall119> jono: cjohnston's wireless is questionable, but we'll try to hangout
[15:59] <technoviking> s-fox: will look into it
[15:59] <jono> mhall119, np
[15:59] <s-fox> Thanks technoviking
[15:59] <mhall119> we'll see how well it handles 3 hangout sessions
[16:00] <czajkowski> jono: I hope so use that daily been annoying having to press it on the launch bar to go to the desktop I'm working on
[16:00] <czajkowski> and people are seeing a lot of CDCD :)
[16:01] <jono> dpm, dholbach, jcastro, balloons, mhall119 invite sent
[16:04] <technoviking> think php.ini on the forums server need to be editted ping IS
[16:04] <technoviking> there is max_execution_time = line should be increased
[16:06] <s-fox> That would be my guess too technoviking
[16:12] <cjohnston> jcastro: your loud
[16:36] <jcastro> cjohnston: https://gist.github.com/
[16:41] <jcastro> dholbach: can you paste in a link to that board?
[16:43] <mhall119> http://ubuntuone.com/15nClPfOMixOzysVmPzAsb yummy
[16:45] <jcastro> speaking of trello mhall119 can you update your cards?
[16:45] <jcastro> URL is in /topic
[16:45] <jcastro> you have some hanging around
[16:47] <czajkowski> jcastro: is trello the same as leankitkanban.com
[16:47] <jcastro> it's a similar tool
[16:47] <jcastro> trello is more of a simple one, it's not like a strict kanban tool
[16:48] <jcastro> it kind of let's you be more freeform
[16:48] <czajkowski> nods
[16:48] <jcastro> but it doesn't have an API
[16:48] <czajkowski> I notice canonical use the latter, just wondered why ye were using trello instead
[16:49] <jcastro> yeah some dev teams use kanban, and there are a bunch of tools out there, leankit seems to be the one we like
[16:49] <czajkowski> nods
[16:49] <jcastro> trello is more "a set of lists you can define and move around, it just happens to look like kanban"
[16:49] <czajkowski> nods
[16:49] <jcastro> the URL to a generic community one is in the /topic
[16:50] <jcastro> the idea being if we know what the team needs to do you can dive in and do it
[16:50] <mhall119> jcastro: trello updated
[16:50] <czajkowski> jcastro: true, was just curious given other teams use the other one what the difference was
[16:50] <jcastro> I think it doesn't have some of the things "real" kanban tools have though
[16:51] <jcastro> it's more of a "team todo list" style thing afaict.
[16:51] <technoviking> s-fox: ticket number 19384
[16:51] <s-fox> Noted, thanks technoviking
[16:52] <popey> czajkowski: leankitkanban licenses cost money too
[16:52] <czajkowski> popey: ahhh that would have an effect on things
[16:53] <czajkowski> mate is looking at stuff for her work place and was asking for recommendations on tools to use.
[16:53] <popey> its only internal that uses lk
[16:53] <popey> canonical internal that is
[16:54] <jcastro> mhall119: I applied for an account on the test SUMO
[16:55] <jcastro> do you need to approve me and put me in the right group like you did for jim?
[16:55] <mhall119> jcastro: yes
[16:55] <jcastro> ok
[16:56] <mhall119> jcastro: try it now
[16:58] <jcastro> working!
[16:59] <dholbach> hippies!
[17:01] <nigelb> dholbach: "In our time we used the wiki and we liked it!"
[17:01] <nigelb> mhall119: ^
[17:02] <dholbach> I still remember the time when we used the wiki before this one - and I had just committed hours and hours of work into it when the binary blog where it stored its data decided to be unhappy
[17:03] <dholbach> so yeah, we used the wiki, but there were times when I liked using it a bit less :)
[17:03] <nigelb> hehe
[17:03] <jcastro> mhall119: the quickstart guide is 404
[17:03] <jcastro> so I don't know how to write an article
[17:03] <dholbach> so even if I feel a bit nostalgic, it makes me cringe at times
[17:04] <dholbach> jcastro, in reStructuredText?
[17:04] <cjohnston> jcastro: check g+ for an invite
[17:05] <dholbach> czajkowski, "Laura Czajkowski and Łukasz Czyżykowski shared the same link." - finally someone with the same name as you
[17:05] <dholbach> ok ok, I was kidding :)
[17:05] <czajkowski> dholbach: we both have had this conversation
[17:05] <czajkowski> his nick used to throw me for some time
[17:05] <dholbach> now let me see what you have to say about vegetarians :)
[17:05] <jcastro> I love vegetarians
[17:05] <jcastro> they're delicious!
[17:06] <cjohnston> lol
[17:06] <mhall119> bkerensa: ping
[17:07] <czajkowski> dholbach: deep down we love yo
[17:07] <czajkowski> you are the exception to all rules dholbach
[17:07] <mhall119> jcastro: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/superheroes-wanted
[17:07] <dholbach> what about mvo? :)
[17:08] <dholbach> I sound like I'm buying seats on Noah's ark
[17:08] <czajkowski> dholbach: I only make one exception to any rule, you got the veggie card
[17:08] <dholbach> ok, whatever
[17:08] <nigelb> what about mdz :P
[17:08] <dholbach> yeah and janimo and all the others
[17:08] <czajkowski> what about him
[17:09] <dholbach> right, he's a vegequarian
[17:09] <czajkowski> I have amate who points out the benefits of being a veggie
[17:09] <czajkowski> my counter argument is look at my head of hair and look at your bald head :)
[17:09] <czajkowski> he goes rather quiet then
[17:18] <christoffer> Is there any special global jam irc channel?
[17:19] <nigelb> mhall119: ^
[17:19] <mhall119> jcastro:try http://91.189.93.72/en-US/kb/new
[17:19] <dholbach> christoffer, as far as I know there #ubuntu-locoteams where LoCo teams generally coordinate all kinds of events
[17:19] <dholbach> might be good to just hang out there and ask questions
[17:19] <christoffer> dholbach, thank you
[17:19] <dholbach> it's also nice to get a feeling for what everybody else is doing :)
[17:19] <dholbach> christoffer, which LoCo are you from?
[17:19] <christoffer> Sweden
[17:20] <dholbach> christoffer, ha en trevlig dag :)
[17:20] <christoffer> where just a few going to do some vimeo "getting started with Ubuntu videos" and try testing livecds
[17:20] <christoffer> *we're
[17:20] <dholbach> that's awesome
[17:20] <christoffer> dholbach, tack detsamma!
[17:20] <christoffer> =)
[17:20] <dholbach> :-)
[17:21] <dholbach> (my girlfriend's half-Norwegian, so I picked up a few things)
[17:21] <dholbach> I'm just about to head out as I'm invited for dinner
[17:21] <dholbach> so have a great weekend and great Jams everyone
[17:21] <christoffer> aha
[17:21] <christoffer> Cya!
[17:26] <jono> hey all
[17:26] <jono> jamming in Walnut Creek :-)
[17:28] <s9iper1> jono: hey
[17:29] <jono> hey s9iper1
[17:30] <s9iper1> howz you whats up ? i is this jono bacon ?
[17:30] <jono> s9iper1, yup
[17:30] <jono> good thanks
[17:32] <s9iper1> jono: we are planning to have a party of ubuntu release  here in pakistan  so what you suggest  we decide to have it in pizza hut ?
[17:32] <jono> s9iper1, yeah that would work
[17:32] <czajkowski> s9iper1: sounds like fun and  a really good idea
[17:33] <s9iper1> hmm thanks so much
[17:39] <cjohnston> jcastro: we hear you
[17:39] <cjohnston> jcastro: post the link to the hangout in here
[17:45] <jono> cjohnston, can you poke mhall to respond to my ping?
[17:45] <jono> :-)
[17:46] <cjohnston> he's on my system right now
[17:49] <jcastro> cjohnston: hey so I'll just type
[17:49] <jcastro> so check this out, we syndicate content on cloud.ubuntu.com
[17:49] <cjohnston> we hear you jcastro
[17:50] <jcastro> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-feedwordpress-setup-relcanonical-to-show-original-source-of-the-post
[17:52] <balloons> s9iper1 we're having pizza hut also
[17:52] <balloons> ;-)
[17:53] <jcastro> daker: around?
[17:53] <daker> hey
[17:53] <s9iper1> balloons: thanks  hay balloons i have seen you some where may be in ubuntu bugs.. and you also lead the meeting as i remember
[17:53] <s9iper1> thanks awesome :D
[17:53] <jcastro> daker: hey so, you know how we syndicate people's blogs on cloud.u.c?
[17:53] <jcastro> daker: the feedwordpress plugin isn't using rel="canonical"!
[17:54] <jcastro> so I searched, and found this:
[17:54] <jcastro> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-feedwordpress-setup-relcanonical-to-show-original-source-of-the-post
[17:54] <daker> i don't know
[17:54] <daker> give me some time to investigate
[17:55] <jcastro> yeah I was just wondering if we put that in the template someplace
[17:56] <jcastro> I wonder if it's just replacing something like get_permalink(); with get_syndication_permalink();
[17:56] <cjohnston> jcastro: we invited you back
[17:56] <balloons> jcastro, join the new hangout
[17:57] <jcastro> k
[17:57] <balloons> s9iper1, yes i'm around with ubuntu qa ;-k
[17:58] <s9iper1> balloons: nice to met you :)]
[17:58] <balloons> nice to meet u also
[17:59] <daker> jcastro, ok but before we need to update the plugin
[17:59] <jcastro> ok so I should file an RT then?
[18:00] <daker> yes
[18:00] <jcastro> ok so the new version of the plugin does it or ... ?
[18:00] <jcastro> I am just trying to figure out what to put in the ticket
[18:00] <daker> https://cloud.ubuntu.com/wp-admin/plugins.php shows that there is an update
[18:01] <jcastro> "Warning: This plugin has not been tested with your current version of WordPress."
[18:01] <jcastro> hah, of course!
[18:02] <jcastro> daker: ok from what I can tell we don't really need the plugin to be updated
[18:03] <jcastro> just the template file for the theme
[18:03] <daker> ok
[18:03] <jcastro> oh dude wait!
[18:03] <jcastro> he has a config option for it
[18:04] <daker> the plugin has a settings panel but doesn't work anymore https://cloud.ubuntu.com/wp-admin/admin.php?page=feedwordpress/syndication.php
[18:04] <jcastro> yargh!
[18:04] <jcastro> oh ok, so then that's why you probably want an update. :)
[18:04] <daker> yes
[18:05] <jcastro> <3 awesome, filing RT, thanks dude!
[18:05] <daker> ツ
[18:31] <cjohnston> someone kick svwilliams out!
[18:39] <cjohnston> jcastro: judgement free zone
[18:53] <cjohnston> jono: I need someone to do summit reviews... do you happen to know someone who may be able to do that for me? ;-)
[18:59] <jono> jcastro, hey, you around?
[18:59] <jcastro> yessir!
[19:00] <jono> jcastro, I have a dude here at the UGJ who works for reddit
[19:00] <jono> I have been telling him about Juju
[19:00] <jcastro> OHRLY.
[19:00] <jono> I think he could be a great person to reach out to
[19:00] <jcastro> it would be awesome
[19:00] <jcastro> feel free to assign me to do whatever he wants/needs.
[19:00] <jcastro> I could 1-on-1 with the guy
[19:00] <jono> he is coming now
[19:00] <jcastro> or do a team thing for them
[19:00] <jono> he is is alienth
[19:00] <jcastro> awesome
[19:00] <technoviking> they want cats
[19:01] <jono> jcastro, he is joining in a sec
[19:01] <jono> jcastro, can you give him the jcastro treatment and help him play with it?
[19:01] <jcastro> for sure
[19:02] <jono> thanks, man
[19:02]  * jcastro goes to find the reddit source code
[19:02] <jcastro> jono: send him to #juju actually
[19:02] <jcastro> so I can pull in Clint and co.
[19:02] <jono> jcastro, cool, he is on his way
[19:10] <daker> oh popey starts working for canonical
[19:16] <daker> Have a great week end everyone ツ
[19:22] <bkerensa> mhall119: pong
[19:24] <jo-erlend> jono, time for a chat?
[19:25] <jono> jo-erlend, I can on IRC, but cant do voice, in a coffee shop
[19:25] <jo-erlend> jono, heh, that's cute. "Chat" means audio to you. :)
[19:26] <jo-erlend> yes, I meant the IRC style chat. :)
[19:28] <jono> :-)
[19:28] <jono> jo-erlend, just because I spend so much bloody time on the phone :-)
[19:30] <popey> daker: yeah, just 3 months ☺
[19:36] <balloons> svwilliams.. u jammin'?
[19:39] <svwilliams> balloons, I don't know I'm across the table from you at cjohnston house
[19:40] <balloons> svwilliams, in that  case i would say you are
[19:40] <bkerensa> mhall119: Ok I will be back I have to go to Lowe's and find some Tacos
[19:40] <bkerensa> :D
[20:48] <mhall119> bkerensa: nvm, #sumo answered me
[20:50] <cjohnston> mhall119: can you please help svwilliams with the block stuff
[20:50] <cjohnston> for some reason it isnt working
[20:51] <svwilliams> oh its working just strangely
[20:52] <cjohnston> lol
[21:01] <technoviking> s-fox: forums fix should be in place
[21:09]  * balloons is endlessly looping bob marley's jammin' to cjohnston and svwilliams
[21:09] <balloons> this might not end well
[21:13] <pangolin> I balloons I have done extensive testing, you can only listen to that song 27 times in a row before someones smashes your computer/media device.
[21:13] <pangolin> err -I
[21:15] <balloons> pangolin.. ahh.. lol i didn't know it had a beginning or end ;-)
[21:19] <juancarlospaco> hello
[21:20] <balloons> hello!
[21:22] <cjohnston> we have honey badgers over here
[21:23] <juancarlospaco> looking the Trello, interesting thingy  :)
[21:24] <juancarlospaco> dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2IR5"  ---> goes to 404 on IRC Topic Header  :(
[21:31] <jcastro> mhall119: is ubuntu sso "ISD" or is there one guy I should talk to?
[21:50] <mhall119> jcastro: it's ISD, but I always ping pindonga
[21:51] <jcastro> IS helped me out, thanks!
[23:23] <akgraner> jono ok so it took me a couple days for this to click - you got involved in open source when you were 16?
[23:24] <akgraner> or 18
[23:24] <akgraner> I can't remember how old you are
[23:25] <jono> akgraner, 18
[23:25] <cprofitt> You have only been involved with open source for two years jono?
[23:25] <akgraner> ahh -  for some reason I thought you were only 30 now :-/
[23:26] <cprofitt> akgraner: you know he is only 20 :-)
[23:26] <cprofitt> stop teasing the poor man
[23:26] <jono> lol
[23:33] <cprofitt> akgraner: can you read something in a few minutes?
[23:33] <cprofitt> proof read it?
[23:33] <akgraner> cprofitt, sure
[23:33] <akgraner> happy too
[23:34] <cprofitt> danke
[23:47] <locodir-user> :)
[23:48] <cprofitt> akgraner: sent in email
[23:50] <akgraner> cprofitt, OK I'll take a look now while I wait for the video to render :-)
[23:51] <cprofitt> thanks akgraner
[23:56] <akgraner> jono, are the lyrics for the songs on the Liberate CD somewhere. If they are on the site I have just over-looked them - sorry