[05:25] so Netflix works on Chrome OS, but not on Ubuntu. And Netflix also doesnt work on the Hexxeh builds of Chrome OS either. Is it possible that a simple package needs to be installed on Ubuntu or even something as simple as a folder being copied from Chrome OS and placed in Ubuntu? [05:30] Certainly seems possible, since chromeos is linux based. [05:30] It would be awesome if you figured that out and documented it. [05:31] Doesn't work in chrome (not chromium) on ubuntu either? [05:38] not on ubuntu [05:39] i started a chipin people can donate to and whomever figures out netflix on linux wins the prize. right now the prize is a whopping twelve dollars [05:42] is google renting their laptops for $30 a month now someplace? i might consider getting one so i can rack this [05:42] * crack [05:43] I wish -- that would be very handy if it included 3g service. [05:45] laptop rentals would be super handy in general, but I've never heard of anyone doing it. [05:46] that was their original intention last may was $20/mo rentals [05:47] I see the top of the line chromebook on newegg for $450... looks like nothing more than a netbook... 12" screen, only 16GB SSD drive and 2GB memory? what will you do with it besides browse the web [05:50] Works fine as a netbook, or add an external disk if you need more storage. [05:51] im currently watching an interesting docu called "Thrive" [05:53] * iheartubuntu puts on his +1.50 glasses from the 99 cent store [05:53] 99c store +1 [05:53] WOW! [05:57] if it was the $1.01 store do you think you would get more for your money? [05:59] I know I wouldn't [05:59] because we have dollar tree, and it's worse value than 99c [05:59] (99c is actually 99.99c, so there's not really much difference in price) [05:59] but 99c has better selection. [06:00] i dont recall ever seeing any computer related items at a 99c store [06:02] hmm ... I think I have, but can't think what. Oh -- I bought a (really chintzy, but light, good for laptop case) mousepad once. [06:03] i have to use a book for my mousepad. desk is too smooth [06:04] actually its "american bungalow" magazine [06:04] I've used magazines, but they're often too shiny to work well so I use mousepads when possible. [06:14] * MarkDude likes using old books with that sorta fake leather [06:14] Bigger than most mousepads if you pick the right book [06:14] Anyone else going to WC tomorrow? [06:18] Womens Cycling? count me in! [06:19] * iheartubuntu upgrading laptop to 12.04 [06:22] I like trackballs [06:23] I say it here because saying it anywhere else would be meaningless as they would not care [06:25] wth!!!! 12.04 is getting rid of mahjong? [06:26] a 12.04 disc is 700+ mb and the upgrade is 1.3gb... that doesnt make much sense. [06:35] Fedora only uses like trackballs +1 [06:41] Hmmm [06:41] Copy past fail [06:41] * MarkDude likes trackballs. [06:41] And was going to point out how dumb Fedora is for haiving live cd be 605 MB [06:43] I mean it used to be like 550 - all that space could be used to add some coll stuff [06:44] philipballew, have you seen the zombie kid saying I like turtles? [06:51] mm [06:51] Tonight was good food and good talk about Ubuntu [06:51] :) [06:51] Looks like Ubuntu Oregon will be renting a van for LinuxFest NW Tour [06:55] iheartubuntu: netflix's licensing agreements with content providers won't allow them to release on linux until there is a way to confirm a certain amount of security for their content [06:55] it only works on chromebooks if they don't have developer mode enabled [06:55] see, with developer mode you can poke around the filesystem - they don't want that [06:55] iheartubuntu, just reverse engineer ms silver light. NBD. [06:56] pleia2: It will come [06:56] :) [06:56] mount the drive [06:56] so you cant open a file manager of any kind in chromeos? [06:56] i use amazon prime. its the best for me [06:56] Netflix is pushing for HTML5 with DRM for obvious reasons [06:56] iheartubuntu: not unless it's in developer mode [06:56] nbd? [06:56] it's easy enough to switch it over (at least on the cr-48s it's a switch in the battery area) [06:57] pleia2: What if you install bash and then just go to terminal from GUI with dev mode disabled? [06:57] MarkDude, Its the best! [06:57] yeah the switch on the Samsung ChromeBooks is in a USB cover area [06:57] bkerensa: the terminal without dev mode is restricted to a very small set of commands, even if you install more you can't access it [06:58] hmm [06:58] im thinking of getting a hold of a chromebook and copying the netflix folder or whatever i can find :) and stick it in my chromium browser folder on ubuntu [06:58] theres got to be something super easy here [06:58] iheartubuntu: it wont work... I have the Netflix ChromeOS plugin [06:58] philipballew, I hella laughed at it- and felt bad- thought the kid was *special* [06:58] iheartubuntu: it doesn't persist, so you'd need to find a way to access it while it's running and serving netflix [06:58] :) [06:58] netflix doesnt work on the hexxeh builds either [06:58] I have tried every which way to get it to work on Chromium [06:58] btw iheartubuntu its no big deal :) [06:58] even then, I'm not sure how it works [06:58] saw him interviewed after it became famous, nope he is just a bit goofy [06:59] we all were at that age [06:59] solution to not having Netflix is to just get a Roku 2 or Boxee [06:59] it gives me errors pretty often complaining I'm in dev mode (I'm not), so even the current solution they use is annoying [06:59] yeah, my TV does netflix (and uses a linux kernel) [06:59] although the Roku 2 Netflix GUI is ugly [06:59] bkerensa there is some sort of error the chrome app gives i think [06:59] I use my Xbox 360 for Netflix [07:00] and roku doesnt work when on the road and you wanna watch something in your netflix acct [07:00] iheartubuntu, try a video game emulator? [07:00] iheartubuntu: True but a roku is so small you could put it in a laptop bag [07:00] the emulators apparently cannot connect to the internet (like dolphin) [07:00] and you can connect a roku to your laptop via hdmi [07:00] :D [07:00] my 3DS does netflix, so does my phone [07:00] I have no shortage of netflix devices ;) [07:01] so does mine but oy vay the data use would be epic unfun [07:01] :P [07:01] my TV now does HBO, but to get HBO streaming you need cable services with HBO, crazy heads [07:01] i dont know how many people ive sent images to last month and they never got them since they cancelled their data plans! gettin pricey! [07:02] and now i read ATT is throttling users who have the unlimited packages [07:02] sprint actually is the only carrier that does unlimited [07:02] err, without throttling [07:02] major league soccer dropped MS silverlight at the end of last year and are moving to flash... YAY! [07:03] too bad adobe dropped flash for linux ;P [07:03] ugggh [07:03] unless you use chrome! [07:03] we all alone! [07:03] flash still working for me in ff [07:03] but firefox should come out with a plugin soon enough [07:03] iheartubuntu: yeah, it just won't be updated moving forward [07:03] ugggh [07:03] i see ubuntu shipping chrome eventually as default if fllash is still needed [07:04] iheartubuntu: http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/adobe-and-google-partnering-for-flash-player-on-linux.html [07:04] 10 minutes to download 1.3gb and 3 hours to install. i should have burned an ISO and installed from a USB chip instead [07:04] firefox has already talked about a pepper plugin since the announcement [07:05] philipballew: they can ship chromium but not chrome [07:05] someone send Torvalds an Ubuntu disc please... http://news.efytimes.com/e1/79760/Torvalds-Slams-openSUSE-And-Its-Security-Policies [07:05] yeah, thats right. I run chrome though [07:05] iheartubuntu: he complains about everything :) [07:05] but he has a nice cat [07:05] philip... you are back to chrome? [07:06] best thing i ever did.... move to thunderbird [07:06] wait.. get married. [07:06] haha [07:06] wait wait wait! not get married! [07:06] i dont really like offline mail clients for myself tbh. [07:07] find true luv [07:07] tbh? [07:07] M.I.G.O. [07:07] (man im gettin old) [07:07] to be honest [07:07] ahh [07:08] one of my complaints with chrome was if i had too many tabs open chrome would hang [07:09] yeah, it noms memory [07:09] and when i used google reader... it would never work well in chrome. go figure. [07:09] i have like 20 tabs open in ff right now and no prob [07:09] but I don't keep many tabs open, so it's still faster for me than firefox (though firefox has improved a lot) [07:10] I hate to say it, but it's been cold this winter [07:10] the Mainer in me is laughing so [07:11] did it touch 50 pleia2 ? :) [07:11] no lyz... the coldness here is different somehow. [07:11] serious [07:11] philipballew: it's 46 now! [07:11] i can take 10 degrees in VT, but 40 here is like frozen [07:11] been in the 40s at night for like a month [07:11] i cant explain [07:17] I don't miss the cold [07:18] too many serious injuries from car accidents in the snow and ice [07:19] yeah, there is that [07:20] i ordered my sis a nice video card with two huge fans on it. i hope this solves her crashing problem [07:20] mostly I was talking about being chilled to the bone for 4 months, hot chocolate and fireplaces only go so far :) [07:20] ah, hope so! [07:20] i cant believe her system76 computer is already 4 years old [07:21] she paid like $1800 for it too and it can only handle 4gb max of mem [07:21] wow [07:21] and she only uses it for world of warcraft :) [07:22] the cost does not justify the means for me! [07:22] my little sister plays WoW like it's her job (I think it might be, she doesn't work :P) [07:22] runs a guild and all kinds of things [07:22] yah my sister too [07:22] but shes like 95 years old [07:23] ok maybe not that old [07:23] :-) [07:23] she was bored so I tried to get her to run Ubuntu and work with me on projects, then she discovered WoW, so much for that :) [07:23] is she running it on wine? [07:23] nope :( [07:24] from what ive seen wow looks like it runs better on ubuntu then in windows [07:24] hah [07:24] in ubuntu you can expand the window and go full screen [07:24] and force quit or xkill or x out of it if it is acting funny [07:25] that's the kind of thing that most bothered me when I started using Linux and had to use Windows sometimes [07:25] in Windows you don't have options, things work the way they work, and if something goes wrong you reboot [07:26] how do people live like that?! :) [07:26] i wish WINE had the option to close out an app if its not responding. right now on an app i use... dreamweaver, or even future pinball... efen after i finish using the program it will still be running and using some cpu in the background unless i kill the process [07:27] * even [07:27] i notice this with evernote too [07:27] so i just use the web version instead [07:27] anyway, everyone in my family thinks I'm some crazy computer wizard who uses these strange, complicated computer thing and they won't touch it, it's even worse now that I live in a city in california, I have no credibility left ;) [07:28] you havent converted all of them? [07:28] none of them [07:29] I sent my aunt a CD and a copy of the Ubuntu Manual, but she bought a new laptop instead :\ [07:29] ive converted everyone except for two brothers. one who plays games a lot, and another who says he needs MS office for editing contracts [07:30] Its called learned helplessnes [07:30] iheartubuntu: admittedly, I don't live near any family (and haven't for years) [07:30] just upgraded my dad and sis to 11.10 and so far they love the new unity [07:30] they think there no way theyll understand computers [07:32] while i dont own or use any MS products anymore, i still have some of their stock. its stable and i earn dividends. if only apple paid dividends [07:33] that scrabble game turned out good today [07:33] yeah, scrabble was fun [07:34] i dont know if people are up for that sort of low graphics fun though [07:34] i like fps, but that gets boring after a while [07:34] I'm dyslexic and there is no chance I'll ever win a game of scrabble, I am fun the play with! [07:35] and I don't mind losing :) [07:35] i didnt want to say anything, but i had test played a few other people over the last week and lost all the games :) [07:35] u just have to hit the x2 and x3 squares to get the points [07:35] maybe ubuntu will go public [07:36] iheartubuntu: yeah, I should look up online what those squares mean, I was hyper focused on actually getting words made out of my letters [07:36] and truly, I'd be lost without shuffle [07:36] the problem with going public is a company has to churn out profits to keep shareholders happy [07:37] apple for example makes profits from chinese workers instead of american workers [07:37] very true. thats why philip ballew inc will never go public [07:37] (you could insert most any company in place of apples name above) [07:37] my 8 dollar an hour job gets me nowhere [07:37] hey hows that going [07:38] great! making a lubuntu image to put into laptop to go to churches In Africa! [07:38] South Africa! [07:38] cool :) [07:39] qi was a good word [07:39] the only Q word i can remember :) [07:39] the trouble with q is the common u dependency [07:40] thats where apt-get comes in [07:40] its helps me remember the U [07:40] I wasn't sure it would take qi :) it's chinesee! [07:40] -e [07:40] parcheesee? [07:40] stuck e key :) [07:41] there is also "gtkatlantic" to play monopoly [07:41] I haven't played openarena in years [07:42] we used to have Unreal Tournament LAN parties (it ran on linux even in 2002!) [07:42] if anyone has any game ideas... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/GameNights [07:42] but UT is a bit long in the tooth these days, and you have to buy it [07:42] those were the good days [07:43] hehe [07:43] hauling CRT monitors to LAN parties, oh yeah! [07:43] http://princessleia.com/images/MyImages/Photos/pl2/pl2langeek.jpg [07:43] ^^ like that [07:43] (I was also skinny back then, those /where/ the days!) [07:44] crt monitors are cool. last forever [07:44] not when your cats sleep on top of them [07:44] for instance: http://simcoec.at/images/one_of_your_toys.jpg [07:44] yeah, my cat chubbs thinks my keybord is the best place. even if im typing [07:45] and in finding that I remembered the best bad simcoe picture ever: http://simcoec.at/images/lamp_cat.jpg [07:45] although this is in the running too: http://simcoec.at/images/bad_kitty_01.jpg [07:45] id hate to burn myself on a lamp like that [07:45] she has no fear [07:46] How is she doing these days? [07:47] she's had a rough couple of days actually (after about 4 weeks of being great) [07:47] hoping she gets through it without another vet visit [07:47] that is good that she had good weeks, I imagine she will be okay? [07:48] she's on daily medication and we have to give her fluids under the skin every other day to manage her kidney failure [07:48] did you have dual crts? [07:48] so "will be ok" is a temporary state in her condition [07:48] I had a dog that was sick at one point in my life. Had breast cancer. Sick Animals can be hard, but you gotta do what you gotta do [07:48] iheartubuntu: nope [07:49] I did end up with a lan party CRT and a home CRT (17" and 19" each, the 19" was like 2x as heavy, I couldn't carry it) [07:49] I also had a dog we had to put down because my neighbor shot it in the face. I was five! Oh the fun childhood. [07:49] philipballew: oh wow :( [07:49] philip... your special neighbor? [07:49] and yeah, having a sick pet isn't easy, her diagnosis had me a wreck for about a week [07:50] the dog went into its cow field, he neighbors shot it [07:50] but I've gotten used to her treatment, the needles and fluids aren't so scary now [07:50] no, these people moved a few years ago [07:50] my sister has a rat [07:50] but my special neighbors... [07:50] iheartubuntu: rats are great pets :) [07:50] and those rats all get tumors after a few years [07:50] yeah :( [07:51] they are mostly bred as snake food, so mostly it doesn't matter if they're all inbred [07:51] the husband got back from 7 months in jail last week. already got arrested and police took and siezed all their stuff today according to the rents.. [07:51] are there pure breed rats? [07:51] presumably ones used for medical testing aren't a mess [07:51] but who knows :) [07:52] my neices boyfriend is being picked up by the feds tomorrow [07:52] yikes [07:52] moonshine! [07:52] haha [07:52] nice [07:52] i asked if he had all his teeth [07:52] lol [07:53] they were selling pot i think on my street. when a different car shows up for 5 minutes and leaves 10 times a day... [07:53] have you given them an ubuntu disc? [07:53] maybe they will get hooked on "dopewars" instead [07:54] although they would have to launch the game via terminal command unless you made them a link in the menu [07:55] and if they wanted to make "brownies" you could install gourmet recipe manager for them too [07:55] they were stealing our neighbors internet a few months back. I wanna wait till they try to get on ours, let them, and then wait till they visit porn or try to download something illegeal and go confront them about it. Make for an awkward convo. Did I mention they have a giant Confederate Flag out front and are kinda racists. [07:55] where is seidos these days. i havent been around much but havent heard from him in ages [07:55] lol brownies [07:55] he comes and goes [07:55] saw him at scale [07:56] do they have all THEIR teeth? [07:56] hey MarkDude! [07:56] sup kev! [07:56] you cant just bake the dope, you have to soak it for making brownies [07:56] so ive heard [07:56] lol [07:56] Hey pleia2 [07:57] this state is so funny, I walk down Market toward Embarcadero on my way to the gym and it's like a party every day (but with normal people! in suits and stuff!) [07:57] They have books that tell people how to make that sorta thing [07:57] just walking and smoking [07:57] thats when you buy a pint of ben & jerrys too [07:57] UDS will be very closeby [07:57] my school bans pot for some reason... [07:58] expels you on spot [07:58] pleia2, is correct [07:58] 3 piece suits [07:58] yet my hall smells like weed [07:58] and old grannies with jonts in their pouths [07:58] last time i was in SF i was relaxing at union square and 4 people were smoking up [07:58] iheartubuntu: yeah, it's everywhere [07:58] then a couple came over and asked if they could have some too [07:58] and they said yah $20 [07:58] and the deal was done right like that [07:59] a friend of mine recently moved here and he's all "I got my card!" "card?" (I live in my own world apparently) [07:59] My grandma got pissed about people smoking after leaving baseball game [07:59] then i walked up to washington square and the people who bought the stuff were smoking there. and someone asked THEM if they could have some and they gave them some [07:59] i might be there in a week or two. I will be in nor cal with nothing to do. the weather is hopefully good [07:59] She was not so pissed about 10 minutes later [07:59] MarkDude: hehe [07:59] I cant wait till summer and its gonna be baseball season there [08:00] Grannie in SF and now shes hungry [08:00] youll see me there a lot [08:00] * MarkDude just got season tickets in Mail [08:00] yay :) [08:00] pleia2, needs to get some games figured [08:00] yes! [08:00] MarkDude: You should so make it up for LinuxFest NW [08:00] markdude what was your fave team year? [08:00] :D [08:00] * philipballew will be at the a's a lot as well [08:00] MJ keeps teasing me about the A's moving, he is mean [08:01] tickets are nicely priced. [08:01] the 49ers are moving! the A's stay :) [08:01] Rickey HEnderson [08:01] i miss just getting off bart and going to the game [08:01] years he was there [08:01] yeah henderson was great [08:01] iheartubuntu: it is pretty awesome [08:01] you can take the train right to angels games iheartubuntu [08:01] I can walk to Giants games, but I like A's games more [08:01] More room there [08:01] MarkDude: I hope to take a visit to Redmond while in that neck of the woods... Would be fun to have a giant penguin running around MS campus [08:01] those were some of my fave baseball years... early 90s i think... doc gooden, strawberry, henderson, etc [08:02] * MarkDude is willing to do that [08:02] I didn't even know I liked baseball until moving here :) [08:02] bkerensa, you film [08:02] sports, meh [08:02] I will go on campus [08:02] although the 80s were pretty good too... j.r. richard, nolan ryan, pete rose, etc [08:02] but there is something about going to baseball games, fun times, especially with MarkDude and co [08:03] What was your other quote--- they dont really swear here like they do in Philly :) [08:03] haha [08:03] Phillies fans do nothing but swear! [08:03] i was varsity pitcher in HS [08:03] Eagles too, they are like Raiders fans :) [08:03] Well the seats are nice spot [08:03] Similar [08:04] No Gio this year, he's traded [08:04] when does the season start? [08:04] I am making a trip to see him in ffew games [08:04] MarkDude: where to? [08:04] in a few weeks [08:04] Giants 2012 maybe. possible [08:04] Washington Nationals [08:05] ah, hehe [08:05] So he is near Florida [08:05] well, they need all the help they can get :) [08:05] did spring training start? [08:05] so thata is good for him [08:05] Yep [08:05] * MarkDude has friends there [08:05] Grandma is going soon [08:06] Dallas is still on the team pleia2 ;) [08:06] <3 [08:06] :) [08:07] We also got Manny Ramirez [08:07] the steroid dude [08:07] ubuntu 12.04 install is in cleanup mode :) almost ready to restart! [08:07] cant play for 50 games [08:07] doh [08:07] alright, sleepytime [08:08] night all [08:08] There will be new players to meet, and more pics I can edit of them [08:08] lol [08:08] later [08:10] * philipballew likes to go to river cats games lately [08:10] login screen is nice on 12.04 [08:15] OMG ubuntu 12.04 is beautiful! unless my +1.50 glasses are fooling me somehow [08:16] i like ubuntu 12.10 better [08:16] ??? [08:17] it wasnt made yet, so I compiled it myself [08:18] jk [08:18] Just Kidding [08:19] bravo for ubuntu putting in global privacy settings [08:21] How so? [08:22] you can control your data better [08:26] my ubuntu install is really effed up from all the crap I throw at it. I think I might deleate my user account and start a new account [15:09] hello [18:27] PROTIP: It's okay to be disappointed that warranty replacement drives are recertified and not new retail models (but sometimes they're new), but if you bought your drive a year and a half ago, it is not "brand new". [22:58] At La Scala for Ubuntu Jam [22:58] Still time to make it down [23:08] There are ponies here [23:08] OMG! [23:08] The Unicorn should be here later, after we are done with the cotton condy [23:10] * akk is busy doing robotic car homework [23:11] akk: I thought you said acrobatic car homework and now I have a sad. [23:45] for sf people, i'm not doing anything formal, but i'm planning to pick a coffee shop and plop down for the better part of saturday [23:49] broder: where? [23:49] somewhere in the city. haven't decided exactly where yet