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rick_h_morning11:26
rick_h_it's plant day yay!11:27
jrwrenwhat does that mean?12:13
jrwrenmorning!12:13
rick_h_fish tank plant shipment arrives today12:16
rick_h_so I can start get new fish tomorrow after spending the last few weeks in setup12:16
snap-lYay!12:34
snap-lIT's interesting seeing the bitcoin thefts in recent months12:36
snap-lalmost like bank robberies12:37
* snap-l wonders what list that sentence put him on12:37
rick_h_heh yea, I thought you couldn't do that though since they're signed/validated type things12:37
snap-lrick_h_: Yeah, I'm not entirely sure how they work12:38
snap-lunless you mark them as spent or something.12:38
snap-lrick_h_: We were wonderingif the fish would also get trained12:40
snap-land when they'll learn their ABCs. ;)12:41
rick_h_no, unfortunately they only 'trick' they learn drives me nuts12:41
rick_h_"oooh, people...let's swarm and hope for food"12:41
rick_h_so you have to admire from a distance, stupid fish12:41
snap-lhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Iznh9VbsY12:42
rick_h_yea, you'll never see a goldfish in one of my tanks12:43
snap-lrick_h_: Not even as a feeder fish?12:44
snap-lc'mon, they're cheap, and the pee up a tank like little gold carp.12:44
rick_h_nope12:44
brouschwhat's wrong with goldfish?12:47
snap-lbrousch: They're essentially gold-colored carp?12:49
* rick_h_ has a passionate hate for goldfish12:49
rick_h_they're the django of the fish world, built for the less than sophisticated :P12:50
brouschwow12:50
brouschcarp are fun12:50
snap-lrick_h_: Well said12:50
brouschwe used to have an annual fishing thing called carpfest. we would use balled up dog poop and dough as bait12:51
snap-lbrousch: That should be a data point. :)12:51
rick_h_ah, well how can I possible say unsophisticated at that?12:51
brouschcome on. they're fish. no fish is sophisticated12:51
rick_h_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEJT3HzOBp412:53
rick_h_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m4-UD4i5JU nice12:56
snap-lWoah, that's beautiful12:58
rick_h_yea, just search for planted aqariums12:59
rick_h_that's the "idea" of what I'll be working towards, just don't have the skills/equipment to pull it off that well yet12:59
rick_h_why I say a good aquarium is room decor really12:59
brouschooops http://bitcoinmedia.com/compromised-linode-coins-stolen-from-slush-faucet-and-others/13:00
snap-lIT's not a real aquarium unles it has painted blue gravel and skelatal pirate remains with an air-activated treasure chest.13:00
rick_h_lol13:00
brouschsnap-l++13:01
snap-lhttp://www.lulu.com/blog/2012/03/01/vampire-diaries-harpercollins/ <- This is horseshit.13:06
snap-lUbuntu haters theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbMXPsmyAiI13:52
snap-lMan, I never usually listen to King's X, but I love it every time I do14:16
rick_h_ATT is going to get mad at me today. Fresh installs of two machines14:19
rick_h_make-ifying lots of setup stuff so reloads and reloads to test it works14:19
snap-lheh. :)14:22
nullspacerick_h_: why would ATT get mad at you?14:23
rick_h_even reinstalling the netbook today with the beta114:23
rick_h_nullspace: just hammering my net pretty much straight today so far14:23
rick_h_love it when downloads go from kB/s to M14:24
krondornullspace:  ATT hates when they're customers attempt to use the capacity they sold them.  It's common knowledge.14:28
rick_h_pretty much :)14:28
krondorwoot I know its friday because my grammar is bad (s/they're/their/)14:28
rick_h_really cool http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=365380514:31
nullspacethat sucks14:32
snap-lBTW: IF you're planning on coming to the jam tomorrow, please please PLEASE RSVP so I have a better idea of who is coming.15:31
snap-lhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-michigan/1526/detail/15:32
brouschok15:34
snap-lbrousch: Thank you. :)15:35
brouschoh wait, forgot to add the 12 others i'm bringing15:35
snap-lbrousch: That's fine. We have room for them inthe back yar.15:36
snap-lyard, even15:36
brouschhow did you know they were dogs?15:36
snap-lMy allergies told me.15:36
brouschsnap-l: do you know of others who haven't rsvped?15:37
snap-lI think waldo323_ hasn't15:38
snap-lNot sure if anyone else is coming15:38
snap-lhence the "please RSVP"15:38
snap-lI need to know how much febreeze I'll need for when you guys leave. ;)15:38
brousch A LOT15:40
brouschjust for that i'm eating taco bell tonight15:40
* snap-l makes a note to get the 55 gallon drum and a pump to spray brousch down as he enters.15:41
brouschyou m ight want to. i have 2 dogs15:42
brouschmake me sit on a plastic-covered chair15:42
snap-lhah15:42
snap-lNah, that should be OK15:43
brouschi will bring some beers15:47
snap-lAwesome.15:48
tjagodaIs anybody else running the 12.04 beta yet?15:50
tjagoda(in unity)15:50
rick_h_https://picasaweb.google.com/116120911388966791792/Aqarium?authuser=0&feat=directlink15:50
rick_h_plants are started, going to take weeks/months for them to grow in, but it's greener15:50
tjagodaI think I'm missing the system configuration applet that has all the unity settings.15:50
rick_h_tjagoda: yes, running it in two places as of this morning :)15:51
tjagodaDo you have "User Interface" in your system settings?15:51
snap-lrick_h_: nice!15:51
brouschwhat are these settings you speak of?15:51
rick_h_no, just appearance15:51
tjagodahm.15:51
rick_h_tjagoda: I think that was from that ccsm stuff wasn't it?15:52
brouschunity is the anti-kde15:52
tjagodaI saw a demo in which this dude was able to set the color of his unity dash, via system settings15:52
tjagodaI didn't think it was ccsm, maybe it was15:52
snap-lhttps://plus.google.com/photos/116120911388966791792/albums/5715327558486625105/5715327560765671730?banner=pwa <- rick_h_ is that a heater?15:52
tjagodaSo the only added unity configuration option is really just "Dont hide the dock" and "Make the icons big/smaller"15:52
tjagoda=(15:52
rick_h_snap-l: no, extra filter to help out while I settle things15:53
rick_h_snap-l: it'll get yanked once things are going ok15:53
rick_h_it's just pulling water through that fiber in the bottom for extra filtering of big stuff15:53
snap-lrick_h_: Ah, haven't seen one of those before. Looked strange.15:53
brouschrick_h_: come on, not a single pirate-related item?15:53
rick_h_yea, just a powerhead at the top with a container below for fiberous filter media15:53
rick_h_brousch: nope...no pirates15:53
brouschhumbug15:54
rick_h_just a bunch of $$ down the drain...I mean fish tank15:54
* snap-l cancels his big order of plastic pirate stuff for rick_h_'s tank15:54
snap-lhttp://www.squidoo.com/pirate-fish-tank-aquarium-decorations15:54
tjagodaI am intimidated by Rick's fish tank.15:55
brouschhow about a classy, half-naked mermaid on that stick?15:55
rick_h_hah (on the pirate ship)15:55
rick_h_brousch: I cannot seem to find a way to reply that doesn't put me in CoC violations15:55
snap-lrick_h_: snicker15:55
tjagodaI hate unity a lot less when the launcher bar not auto-hiding15:56
tjagodadefinitely still hate the global menu bar.15:59
tjagoda...so if I'm in firefox16:00
brouschyeah, that is incredibly annoying16:00
tjagodaand I type "print" into the HUB16:00
tjagodaHUD*16:00
tjagoda...it gives me the cups printer devices window16:00
tjagoda-_-16:00
tjagodaWhat I actually have to type is "file" and then go find print in the list16:01
tjagodaTyping "File Pr" gives not File Print as the top choice, but "Work Offline" as the top choice16:02
tjagodaHUD needs lotsowork16:02
snap-lhttp://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/02/hands-on-with-windows-8-server-beta-a-quick-start-to-domain-domination.ars <- THAT'S a server panel?16:02
snap-l(puke)16:02
tjagodaThats the server start menu =(16:03
tjagodaLeaking into the rest of server =(16:03
brouschsnap-l: doesn't your server have a touch screen?16:03
tjagodaThe theory behind it is to make it so you can remote admin from a tablet16:03
tjagodawhich sounds like a fun hour of excruciating pain16:04
snap-lI hope Metro gives Microsoft the kicking they deserve16:04
brouschi already do that. it's called connectbot16:04
tjagodaI am angered by the lack of negative press Metro is getting16:04
tjagodaPhysically angered16:04
brouschtjagoda: i think the people who really hate it already moved on to other things16:05
tjagodaSo angered that I log into minecraft 1.2 to go annihilate all the kittens16:05
brouschi for one, don't give a rats ass about it16:05
tjagodaWhat really makes me angry16:05
tjagodais that in two years the only apps allowed within the windows 8 app store will be HTML fancypants web apps16:05
tjagodano local stuff16:05
tjagodaall web stuff16:05
brouschthen why use windows at all?16:05
tjagodaAt which point my computer is no longer a computer, but a toy16:06
brouschthe only people use windows is to run applications that don't run on anything else16:06
tjagodaTrue16:06
tjagodaPerhaps that makes life easier for linux16:06
snap-lbrousch: "then why use windows at all?" <- THIS16:06
brouschno one _wants_ to use windows. they _have_ to16:06
brouschok, there are some few demented people who want to use windows16:07
tjagodaLike jrwren?16:08
tjagoda=P16:08
brouschno, he uses apple16:09
tjagodaDoesn't he like live inside of .NET though?16:10
rick_h_not any more16:10
tjagodaI thought his clothes were actually made from sewn-together pieces of old ASP manuals. =(16:10
rick_h_jrwren: where's the new gig?16:10
rick_h_https://twitter.com/#!/davglass/status/175612954891390976/photo/1/large is scary16:10
tjagodajcastro's personal hell16:11
snap-lNow if each of those tablets had a picture of his kids, that would be scary.16:11
rick_h_they're all running YUI tests16:11
snap-lI'm not sure if I'm turned on, or turned off.16:12
tjagodaWow16:13
tjagodaComcast business internet for 100/100 throughput16:13
tjagodanot that expensive16:14
rick_h_bwuhahaha Makefile all the things!19:19
rick_h_http://paste.mitechie.com/show/556/ I'll have to sed up the nginx.conf so it's global/reusable as well19:19
snap-lOh jeez.19:31
rick_h_local pypi mirror in one command (well two)19:39
rick_h_make install && make update19:39
rick_h_then wait for 30gb to download19:40
brouschsheat, 30GB?19:43
brouschseems like a caching proxy would be more valuable19:43
brouscha caching proxy pipi mirror19:44
rick_h_well it's like a debian mirror, but smaller19:44
rick_h_it's got a cron job to pull new stuff each day, etc19:44
rick_h_I mean, I'm not dying for 30gb19:45
rick_h_not running it on the laptop, just the local network19:45
brouschbut you could have a local caching mirror on your laptop19:56
rick_h_yea, problaby, but I've got the ssd so any largish space like might not be great19:56
krondorspeaking of ssd anyone know if Intel RST (ssd cache mainly) has Linux support... I'm thinking no, but so far haven't Google'd anything great.20:11
rick_h_jcastro: might know as he was shopping around ssd's more recently than me20:13
rick_h_I've not checked20:13
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jcastrono clue on that one20:31
krondoroh well, I'm just assuming no which means I look at things like bcache some more (or zfs l2arc)21:07
jcastrorick_h_: who do I talk to about ubuntu SSO, is that a launchpad thing or ISD thing?21:30
rick_h_jcastro: IS21:35
jcastroIS or ISD?21:35
rick_h_I'd be in #is21:36
rick_h_jcastro: I think, but it depends on what the issue really is21:36
jcastrois that a guess or do you know?21:36
jcastroAskubuntu needs to be using ubuntu sso and not launchpad sso21:36
jcastrobut when they looked at it:21:36
rick_h_ah, I gotcha21:36
jcastrohttp://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/2076/launchpad-single-sign-on-needs-to-be-replaced-with-ubuntu-sso21:36
jcastroand I need to link up a dude with this guy21:37
rick_h_jcastro: yea, I'd toss that to the contact in #is and if they can't help they should be able to point you 100%21:37
rick_h_but no, I don't know 100%, but with SSO stuff I start with webobs in launchpad-ops and when it's outside of that I've gone to #is21:37
rick_h_and this is all about getting out of launchpad part of it21:38
brouschsnap-l: i have some blank dvds, cds and a usb burner22:39
brouschanything else you think we'll need?22:39
brouschoh, and 12 different west michigan beers22:45

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