[11:26] morning [11:27] it's plant day yay! [12:13] what does that mean? [12:13] morning! [12:16] fish tank plant shipment arrives today [12:16] so I can start get new fish tomorrow after spending the last few weeks in setup [12:34] Yay! [12:36] IT's interesting seeing the bitcoin thefts in recent months [12:37] almost like bank robberies [12:37] * snap-l wonders what list that sentence put him on [12:37] heh yea, I thought you couldn't do that though since they're signed/validated type things [12:38] rick_h_: Yeah, I'm not entirely sure how they work [12:38] unless you mark them as spent or something. [12:40] rick_h_: We were wonderingif the fish would also get trained [12:41] and when they'll learn their ABCs. ;) [12:41] no, unfortunately they only 'trick' they learn drives me nuts [12:41] "oooh, people...let's swarm and hope for food" [12:41] so you have to admire from a distance, stupid fish [12:42] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Iznh9VbsY [12:43] yea, you'll never see a goldfish in one of my tanks [12:44] rick_h_: Not even as a feeder fish? [12:44] c'mon, they're cheap, and the pee up a tank like little gold carp. [12:44] nope [12:47] what's wrong with goldfish? [12:49] brousch: They're essentially gold-colored carp? [12:49] * rick_h_ has a passionate hate for goldfish [12:50] they're the django of the fish world, built for the less than sophisticated :P [12:50] wow [12:50] carp are fun [12:50] rick_h_: Well said [12:51] we used to have an annual fishing thing called carpfest. we would use balled up dog poop and dough as bait [12:51] brousch: That should be a data point. :) [12:51] ah, well how can I possible say unsophisticated at that? [12:51] come on. they're fish. no fish is sophisticated [12:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEJT3HzOBp4 [12:56] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m4-UD4i5JU nice [12:58] Woah, that's beautiful [12:59] yea, just search for planted aqariums [12:59] that's the "idea" of what I'll be working towards, just don't have the skills/equipment to pull it off that well yet [12:59] why I say a good aquarium is room decor really [13:00] ooops http://bitcoinmedia.com/compromised-linode-coins-stolen-from-slush-faucet-and-others/ [13:00] IT's not a real aquarium unles it has painted blue gravel and skelatal pirate remains with an air-activated treasure chest. [13:00] lol [13:01] snap-l++ [13:06] http://www.lulu.com/blog/2012/03/01/vampire-diaries-harpercollins/ <- This is horseshit. [13:52] Ubuntu haters theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbMXPsmyAiI [14:16] Man, I never usually listen to King's X, but I love it every time I do [14:19] ATT is going to get mad at me today. Fresh installs of two machines [14:19] make-ifying lots of setup stuff so reloads and reloads to test it works [14:22] heh. :) [14:23] rick_h_: why would ATT get mad at you? [14:23] even reinstalling the netbook today with the beta1 [14:23] nullspace: just hammering my net pretty much straight today so far [14:24] love it when downloads go from kB/s to M [14:28] nullspace: ATT hates when they're customers attempt to use the capacity they sold them. It's common knowledge. [14:28] pretty much :) [14:28] woot I know its friday because my grammar is bad (s/they're/their/) [14:31] really cool http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3653805 [14:32] that sucks [15:31] BTW: IF you're planning on coming to the jam tomorrow, please please PLEASE RSVP so I have a better idea of who is coming. [15:32] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-michigan/1526/detail/ [15:34] ok [15:35] brousch: Thank you. :) [15:35] oh wait, forgot to add the 12 others i'm bringing [15:36] brousch: That's fine. We have room for them inthe back yar. [15:36] yard, even [15:36] how did you know they were dogs? [15:36] My allergies told me. [15:37] snap-l: do you know of others who haven't rsvped? [15:38] I think waldo323_ hasn't [15:38] Not sure if anyone else is coming [15:38] hence the "please RSVP" [15:38] I need to know how much febreeze I'll need for when you guys leave. ;) [15:40] A LOT [15:40] just for that i'm eating taco bell tonight [15:41] * snap-l makes a note to get the 55 gallon drum and a pump to spray brousch down as he enters. [15:42] you m ight want to. i have 2 dogs [15:42] make me sit on a plastic-covered chair [15:42] hah [15:43] Nah, that should be OK [15:47] i will bring some beers [15:48] Awesome. [15:50] Is anybody else running the 12.04 beta yet? [15:50] (in unity) [15:50] https://picasaweb.google.com/116120911388966791792/Aqarium?authuser=0&feat=directlink [15:50] plants are started, going to take weeks/months for them to grow in, but it's greener [15:50] I think I'm missing the system configuration applet that has all the unity settings. [15:51] tjagoda: yes, running it in two places as of this morning :) [15:51] Do you have "User Interface" in your system settings? [15:51] rick_h_: nice! [15:51] what are these settings you speak of? [15:51] no, just appearance [15:51] hm. [15:52] tjagoda: I think that was from that ccsm stuff wasn't it? [15:52] unity is the anti-kde [15:52] I saw a demo in which this dude was able to set the color of his unity dash, via system settings [15:52] I didn't think it was ccsm, maybe it was [15:52] https://plus.google.com/photos/116120911388966791792/albums/5715327558486625105/5715327560765671730?banner=pwa <- rick_h_ is that a heater? [15:52] So the only added unity configuration option is really just "Dont hide the dock" and "Make the icons big/smaller" [15:52] =( [15:53] snap-l: no, extra filter to help out while I settle things [15:53] snap-l: it'll get yanked once things are going ok [15:53] it's just pulling water through that fiber in the bottom for extra filtering of big stuff [15:53] rick_h_: Ah, haven't seen one of those before. Looked strange. [15:53] rick_h_: come on, not a single pirate-related item? [15:53] yea, just a powerhead at the top with a container below for fiberous filter media [15:53] brousch: nope...no pirates [15:54] humbug [15:54] just a bunch of $$ down the drain...I mean fish tank [15:54] * snap-l cancels his big order of plastic pirate stuff for rick_h_'s tank [15:54] http://www.squidoo.com/pirate-fish-tank-aquarium-decorations [15:55] I am intimidated by Rick's fish tank. [15:55] how about a classy, half-naked mermaid on that stick? [15:55] hah (on the pirate ship) [15:55] brousch: I cannot seem to find a way to reply that doesn't put me in CoC violations [15:55] rick_h_: snicker [15:56] I hate unity a lot less when the launcher bar not auto-hiding [15:59] definitely still hate the global menu bar. [16:00] ...so if I'm in firefox [16:00] yeah, that is incredibly annoying [16:00] and I type "print" into the HUB [16:00] HUD* [16:00] ...it gives me the cups printer devices window [16:00] -_- [16:01] What I actually have to type is "file" and then go find print in the list [16:02] Typing "File Pr" gives not File Print as the top choice, but "Work Offline" as the top choice [16:02] HUD needs lotsowork [16:02] http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/02/hands-on-with-windows-8-server-beta-a-quick-start-to-domain-domination.ars <- THAT'S a server panel? [16:02] (puke) [16:03] Thats the server start menu =( [16:03] Leaking into the rest of server =( [16:03] snap-l: doesn't your server have a touch screen? [16:03] The theory behind it is to make it so you can remote admin from a tablet [16:04] which sounds like a fun hour of excruciating pain [16:04] I hope Metro gives Microsoft the kicking they deserve [16:04] i already do that. it's called connectbot [16:04] I am angered by the lack of negative press Metro is getting [16:04] Physically angered [16:05] tjagoda: i think the people who really hate it already moved on to other things [16:05] So angered that I log into minecraft 1.2 to go annihilate all the kittens [16:05] i for one, don't give a rats ass about it [16:05] What really makes me angry [16:05] is that in two years the only apps allowed within the windows 8 app store will be HTML fancypants web apps [16:05] no local stuff [16:05] all web stuff [16:05] then why use windows at all? [16:06] At which point my computer is no longer a computer, but a toy [16:06] the only people use windows is to run applications that don't run on anything else [16:06] True [16:06] Perhaps that makes life easier for linux [16:06] brousch: "then why use windows at all?" <- THIS [16:06] no one _wants_ to use windows. they _have_ to [16:07] ok, there are some few demented people who want to use windows [16:08] Like jrwren? [16:08] =P [16:09] no, he uses apple [16:10] Doesn't he like live inside of .NET though? [16:10] not any more [16:10] I thought his clothes were actually made from sewn-together pieces of old ASP manuals. =( [16:10] jrwren: where's the new gig? [16:10] https://twitter.com/#!/davglass/status/175612954891390976/photo/1/large is scary [16:11] jcastro's personal hell [16:11] Now if each of those tablets had a picture of his kids, that would be scary. [16:11] they're all running YUI tests [16:12] I'm not sure if I'm turned on, or turned off. [16:13] Wow [16:13] Comcast business internet for 100/100 throughput [16:14] not that expensive [19:19] bwuhahaha Makefile all the things! [19:19] http://paste.mitechie.com/show/556/ I'll have to sed up the nginx.conf so it's global/reusable as well [19:31] Oh jeez. [19:39] local pypi mirror in one command (well two) [19:39] make install && make update [19:40] then wait for 30gb to download [19:43] sheat, 30GB? [19:43] seems like a caching proxy would be more valuable [19:44] a caching proxy pipi mirror [19:44] well it's like a debian mirror, but smaller [19:44] it's got a cron job to pull new stuff each day, etc [19:45] I mean, I'm not dying for 30gb [19:45] not running it on the laptop, just the local network [19:56] but you could have a local caching mirror on your laptop [19:56] yea, problaby, but I've got the ssd so any largish space like might not be great [20:11] speaking of ssd anyone know if Intel RST (ssd cache mainly) has Linux support... I'm thinking no, but so far haven't Google'd anything great. [20:13] jcastro: might know as he was shopping around ssd's more recently than me [20:13] I've not checked === jason__ is now known as DBO [20:31] no clue on that one [21:07] oh well, I'm just assuming no which means I look at things like bcache some more (or zfs l2arc) [21:30] rick_h_: who do I talk to about ubuntu SSO, is that a launchpad thing or ISD thing? [21:35] jcastro: IS [21:35] IS or ISD? [21:36] I'd be in #is [21:36] jcastro: I think, but it depends on what the issue really is [21:36] is that a guess or do you know? [21:36] Askubuntu needs to be using ubuntu sso and not launchpad sso [21:36] but when they looked at it: [21:36] ah, I gotcha [21:36] http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/2076/launchpad-single-sign-on-needs-to-be-replaced-with-ubuntu-sso [21:37] and I need to link up a dude with this guy [21:37] jcastro: yea, I'd toss that to the contact in #is and if they can't help they should be able to point you 100% [21:37] but no, I don't know 100%, but with SSO stuff I start with webobs in launchpad-ops and when it's outside of that I've gone to #is [21:38] and this is all about getting out of launchpad part of it [22:39] snap-l: i have some blank dvds, cds and a usb burner [22:39] anything else you think we'll need? [22:45] oh, and 12 different west michigan beers