/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/03/03/#kubuntu-devel.txt

bulldog98yofel: has someone finally made icecream doing crosscompiles?00:17
yofelnot that I know of00:21
rbelemRiddell, i'm back00:24
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokeqt] Philip Muškovac * 19 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release00:33
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/perlqt] Philip Muškovac * 22 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release00:40
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtruby] Philip Muškovac * 19 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release00:40
bulldog98yofel: there was a command for updateing the symbols files but I can’t remember it00:56
yofelbulldog98: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html01:08
* yofel is off to bed - good night01:08
bulldog98apachelogger: is it save that Nepomuk::ResourceManager::slotStoreChanged() was removed upstream?02:22
bulldog98is this changelog entry ok? http://paste.kde.org/43261402:45
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs] Jonathan Kolberg * 401 * debian/ (7 files) * New upstream release - Update symbol files03:05
sreichso i have a VM of kubuntu, i buillt kde-workspace using apt-get build-dep, and then source and dpkg built it. that worked fine04:24
sreichexcept now i tried the same thing with kdeplasma-addons, applied my patches yet now i get ../../../runners/bing/bingjob.h:21:19: fatal error: QObject: No such file or directory04:25
sreichwhich doesn't make any sense, because that does #include <QObject>04:25
sreichand it builds on my machine..assuming i copied everything over properly. how could that line possibly fail, yet kde-wrokspace builds04:25
ScottKDid you apt-get build-dep kdeplasma-addons?04:34
sreichyeah04:35
* sreich tries a fresh source get04:35
sreichyeayh, how odd. even without any modifications i get that for whatever it encoutners04:38
sreich /usr/include/plasma/abstractrunner.h:23:26: fatal error: QtCore/QObject: No such file or directory04:38
ScottKWeird.05:05
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Jonathan Kolberg * 162 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release08:32
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Jonathan Kolberg * 26 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release08:47
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/okular] Jonathan Kolberg * 24 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release08:56
Riddell"sarah.j.smith@nokia.com has been removed from kubuntu-devel"09:55
Riddellmaco: looks like we're in trouble when the aliens come :(09:56
yofelbulldog98: changelog fine, except: please remove ~ppa1 from the version and use UNRELEASED as release in bzr10:25
yofelnot too  important, but easier to script if necessary10:25
yofelalso prevents people uploading something with ~ppa1 to the archive10:31
yofelooh, calligra 2.4 RC1 up for packaging10:38
yofelhm, new bugzilla on bugs.kde.org somehow doesn't look right...11:21
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/analitza] Philip Muškovac * 8 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release11:57
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kactivities] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release12:04
yofelbulldog98: I've uploaded kdepimlibs to the ppa which was missing for some reason12:38
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Philip Muškovac * 163 * debian/ (changelog libakonadi-kde4.symbols) merge changelog entries and update libakonadi-kde4.symbols12:39
yofeland a symbol file wasn't updated12:39
rbelemRiddell, KDEDIRS does not seems work with startactive :-/12:52
yofelrbelem: where are you setting that?13:04
rbelemyofel, in the startactive script13:22
yofelis that run before, after or instead of startkde?13:23
rbelemyofel, and i tried in the /etc/X11/Xsession.d13:23
rbelemyofel, it does not use startkde13:23
rbelemyofel, startactive replaces startkde13:23
yofeland what are you trying to do with KDEDIRS?13:25
rbelemyofel, i thought startactive should handle KDEDIRS13:25
rbelemyofel, but it does not seems to do :'(13:26
yofelafaik KDEDIRS can override a few things, but it's not set by default13:26
yofelso where are you setting it?13:27
rbelemyofel, i'm trying to override /usr/share/xsessions13:27
rbelemyofel, i set it in the startactive script13:28
yofelhm, /usr/share/xsessions is only used by kdm though13:29
yofelso what are you trying to do again?13:30
rbelemyofel, oops... sorry i meant /usr/share/autostart13:30
yofelah k13:30
rbelemyofel, hum... i think i found why it is not working13:32
rbelemyofel, startactive is overriding the KDEDIRS13:33
yofel_well, overriding with what? by default KDEDIRS is empty13:35
yofel_it's only set in kubuntu's startkde by our patches13:35
rbelemyofel, it is being set to /usr13:36
rbelemyofel, by startactive13:36
yofel_which will override nothing if I understand this right13:36
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rbelemyofel, i think i'm setting the KDEDIRS before startactive, so it overrides my KDEDIRS13:38
yofelthen some patch is wrong, we set KDEDIRS in neon before running startkde as well, and it works13:38
yofelyou set it to something like this?13:39
yofelexport KDEDIRS=/usr/share/kubuntu-active-default-settings/:/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/13:39
yofelScottK: do I need an FFe for bug 928009?13:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 928009 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu missing someKDE API 4.6 include files" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92800913:51
BluesKajHiyas all13:53
yofelhi BluesKaj13:53
BluesKajhi yofel13:53
BluesKajwe had a power failure overnight , but this pc booted fine this morning ..I was expecting some boot probs but all is well :)13:54
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Philip Muškovac * 57 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release13:58
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 261 * debian/ (10 files) (log message trimmed)14:18
CIA-42* New upstream release * Add a kde-runtime-dev package with the nepomuk headers14:18
CIA-42(LP: #928009) * Add seperate packages for libnepomukdatamanagement4 and14:18
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdcraw] Philip Muškovac * 30 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release14:27
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 26 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release14:29
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdemultimedia] Philip Muškovac * 148 * debian/changelog New upstream release14:42
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 146 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release14:43
yofelbbl14:45
ScottKyofel: As long as it doesn't need a new binary package, no FFe needed.  14:54
yofelit does, I'll file it later15:01
rbelemyofel, i had a small problem here :-)15:14
rbelemyofel, i found a solution15:14
rbelemyofel, just remove the KDEDIRS from /usr/share/kde4/apps/startactive/env.conf15:15
rbelemyofel, this file is loaded by startactive.bin15:16
rbelemyofel, later i will make a patch to create a env.cond.d/15:16
rbelemyofel, then there third parties could install theirs specific env15:17
* rbelem goes to kitchen :-) cook something15:18
rbelemRiddell, i uploaded a new startactive with more fixes16:42
rbelemyofel, it is working now \o/16:51
rbelemRiddell, ^16:51
rbelemRiddell, i think it is ok to enter the archives17:00
rbelem:-)17:00
hyper_chhmmm, where to report a kubuntu 12.04 bug to? former kubuntu team ppa or where?17:05
yofelhyper_ch: packaging bugs for 12.04 with 'ubuntu-bug <package', KDE bugs at https://bugs.kde.org17:12
hyper_chyofel: thx17:13
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokekde] Philip Muškovac * 18 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release17:21
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 100 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release17:55
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 622 * debian/ (changelog control kde-workspace-data.install) * New upstream release - add networkmanager icons to kde-workspace-data.install17:58
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 209 * debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream release - update dolphin.install and kde-baseapps-data.install * Drop kubuntu_25_dolphin_keys.diff, now upstream18:05
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2] Philip Muškovac * 31 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release18:08
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libksane] Philip Muškovac * 23 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release18:10
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkipi] Philip Muškovac * 30 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release18:12
nixternalahhhhhhh, finally figured out what was causing my issue with $TERMINAL and irssi. it was my damn nicklist.pl script. i will miss that script18:36
yofelLOL, new file in kdepim: usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kmail/troubleshooting.docbook18:53
yofel:D18:53
nixternalthat should be a fun one to try and read18:54
nixternalunless of course, khelpcenter was upgraded to read .docbook files since i last checked18:54
nixternalderr, forgot, that is upstreams, not ours :D18:55
nixternalnote to self: time for larger text or move screen closer...getting old sucks18:56
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim] Philip Muškovac * 195 * debian/ (changelog control kdepim-doc.install kmail.install) * New upstream release - add kmail troubleshooting docbook to kdepim-doc.install - add kmail ontology files to kmail.install19:16
Peace-is there anyone?19:48
Peace-xD19:48
codemaniacHello Team ,20:30
codemaniaccan anyone let me know how to become a part of the development team20:30
codemaniacand contribute 20:31
yofelcodemaniac: welcome! I'm a bit busy currently, maybe someone else can give you an intro20:38
yofelor you'll have to wait an ~hour maybe, then I'm free20:39
Peace-i did a pretty lame qml animation for kslash20:39
yofelRiddell: ^20:39
Peace-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST5rUnd8QJ0 :D20:39
mikecbPeace-: nice!20:41
codemaniacits yofel , thanks20:41
codemaniacs/its/its ok/20:41
kubotucodemaniac meant: "its ok yofel , thanks"20:41
codemaniacyeah you speak my mind kubotu , thanks20:41
Peace-mikecb: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=14929120:43
mikecblove the "any insult is welcomed."20:45
Peace-xD20:46
sreichrbelem: ping20:47
codemaniacIs there any developmnet environment to try my hands on ?20:53
yofelhe's gone :(21:27
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/pykde4] Philip Muškovac * 25 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release21:28
twoboltsHello, I've got some experience in QA Automation, Python programming. How can I help for Kubuntu project?21:34
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeadmin] Philip Muškovac * 145 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release21:35
yofeltwobolts: welcome! 21:36
yofelWe have a few python applications where someone with good python knowledge would be useful for, and our QA side is rather lacking in manpower so any help would be really appreciated there21:37
twoboltsI know python not well, base level.21:44
twoboltsCan you give me information about QA side?21:45
yofeltwobolts: in QA we have generally: release image ISO testing, regression testing on KDE and other package updates, and general testing for the development release21:47
yofeland I'm probably forgetting something21:47
yofelah, bug triaging counts to QA21:48
yofelwe can really need help in all of that21:48
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeartwork] Philip Muškovac * 134 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release21:50
yofeltwobolts: except bug triaging, which is an ongoing effort, the testing is done whenever it's needed, esp. for ISO testing and bug triaging we have nobody that's really committed to it, so it's usually done by the developers that are available at that time21:54
schnelleyofel: I am on beta 1 liveCD now and kmess works. Next time I'll test first and then alarm you guys. Sorry22:00
twoboltsok, how can i help for ISO testing22:00
yofelschnelle: nah, I should've read the changelog properly, thanks for testing22:00
twobolts?22:00
schnelleyofel: one more question. who backported qt 4.8 to oneiric backports?22:01
schnellei am asking because with qt 4.8 from backport all panel bugs are back :(22:02
yofeltwobolts: iso testing is done whenever we have images to test, next will be precise (12.04) beta2 images around end of the month22:02
yofelschnelle: shadeslayer22:02
yofeland yes, those patches are still not imported22:02
yofelI forgot who was looking at them22:02
schnellefabo22:02
starbuckschnelle: which bugs?22:03
yofelah right22:03
yofelfabo: an idea when you'll have time to look at them?22:03
schnellestarbuck: famous ghost taskbar bug22:03
yofeltwobolts: iso testing is coordinated on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ - if you go on the beta1 testing page you can at least see how it looks like22:04
starbuckwhat is that, never experienced it ?22:04
schnelleand taskbar doesn't respond to click bug too. i have all of them if qt isnt patched :(22:04
starbuckbtw updating backports: does anyone know if there is an option to run apt-get command with automatic confirmation of any configuration dialog with the suggested default option? 22:04
yofelstarbuck: happens with the default taskbar and open source graphics drivers it seems22:04
yofelat least I never saw it with the nvidia driver22:04
starbuckyofel: okay, and what it does in case I stumble across it since my update to 4.8?22:05
Riddellbonsoir22:05
yofelstarbuck: I have no idea if that applies to debconf, but apt-get has -y --force-yes22:05
twoboltsyofel: thanks, I'll read that page and do try to start.22:06
yofelstarbuck: it keeps the task entries in the taskbar when you close an application, I'm not really use22:06
starbuckHa, i have this bug too !22:06
schnellestarbuck: If you are interested, i wrote to devel list about it> 22:06
yofel...really sure how to trigger it22:07
starbuckyep, that is bug also here22:07
schnellehttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-February/005794.html22:07
starbuckschnelle: thanks and that would be fixed with 4.8?22:07
starbuckyofel: okay, does -y -force-yes also apply if default suggested is N [No], like KDM settings new or current?22:07
yofeltwobolts: there's no milestone images to test right now, but I can give you a rundown on how it's done using a daily built image as an example22:07
starbuckyofel: or does it always apply YES22:07
yofelstarbuck: no idea22:07
schnellewell i used one ppa with qt 4.7.4 patched, but then i had update from backports to qt 4.8 and now i have these bugs again22:08
starbuckyep, i have it too now with 4.8 backports22:08
schnellestarbuck: yes it should be fixed. it is qt bug22:08
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdenetwork] Philip Muškovac * 168 * debian/ (patches/no_home_set.diff changelog control patches/series) * New upstream release - drop no_home_set.diff - applied upstream22:09
schnelleThere is ppa with patched Qt: https://launchpad.net/~hrvojes/+archive/qt.22:09
yofelRiddell: you don't by chance know if qt 4.8.1 will be released in time for precise?22:09
Riddellyofel: I'm afriad not, there's still no public release schedule for qt as far as I know22:11
Riddellfregl probably has the inside knowledge22:11
twoboltsyofel: ok22:11
yofel:/22:11
yofelwell, let's see what fabo says22:12
schnellethis bug is also annoying in beta1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/74481222:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 744812 in ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Precise) "FontConfig/Qt stack choke on Ubuntu Medium font meta-data (No medium in Inkscape and too bold in Qt apps)" [High,Confirmed]22:13
yofeltwobolts: sorry, something came up, maybe someone else can give you an introduction. If not, I'm usually online every day, so just stick around22:19
* yofel is off for the day22:20
twoboltsyofel: ok thanks22:21
Riddellwow, two people offering to help in the last two hours22:24
Riddellalas handholding is a slow process with low success rate22:24
Riddelland unless we have a nightrose I don't think we can spent too much energy on it, but well worth being nice and discussing as long as it doesn't take too long22:25

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