[00:00] ironhalik: aaa :) I remember my roommate facing that problem that he needs to take apart the whole notebook even keyboard :D [00:01] but he was on Acer, on my Asus jist one thing to take apart and easy [00:04] * yofel repaired 2 fans so far, for both he had to take half of the notebook apart (a thinkpad and an eeePC) [00:07] Ok, I lost the battery indicator [00:07] yofel: hmm, that's why I love Asus :/ [00:07] the eeepc was from asus. Maybe the notebooks are better [00:09] yofel: or just mine and few others I have seen so far, 4 bolts and there you go CPU Fan and Ram [00:09] ram is as easy, but the EeePC's fan is below the mainboard === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [00:49] any updates ? [01:11] glosoli: if you're curious about what gets updated you could subscribe to https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/precise-changes [01:11] or just check the archive [01:12] yofel: thanks : [01:12] :) [01:18] hi.. can somone help with 12.04 beta1? it is not booting [01:20] knewbie_: im not using the 1204 beta yet, but tell me [01:20] where does it stop [01:20] the boot process [01:21] I can not tell. It shows the human icon then, loads sometime... black screen whole time. [01:21] is this to install , or after installation? [01:21] to install.. [01:21] is there an option to edit the kernel command line [01:22] if there is, I dunno how [01:22] the 12.04 had you pressing f6 i believe [01:22] ok then? [01:22] it will allow you to modify thew boot string [01:22] ok.. to? [01:22] erase the word quiet and the word splash [01:22] then you will get to see the entire boot process in text [01:23] might have some more info we can use to deduce what happens [01:23] ahh that sounds much better [01:23] I will try that and come back. thx [01:23] np good luck [01:23] maybe the eerror is something you can google [01:23] or try your luck with here [01:24] maybe.. I heard some kernel issues with iommopage something? [01:24] virtual iommpage mapping feature being on by default? [01:24] no idea , try to boot like this and check what error the lodain stops at.. [01:27] ok. might as well as google first.. might save me a retry.. [01:29] found it.. I want to try vmware fast graphics with new mesa 8.0 but installing on regular use is mistake? [01:30] hello and help. how can i build wine with 12.04? apt-get build-dep wine1.4:i386 says everything is ok, but configure fails because "X 32-bit development files not found" [01:31] zuti, does installing wine even work ? [01:32] knewbie_: yup, but it doesn't run my programs. closes right away [01:32] and keeps complaining about gnome keyring [01:33] zuti, so no wine. I read that they switched from 32bit thing to multi-arch... [01:34] yeah, i noticed that after just updating. strange that the build-dep doesn't provide all needed libraries, even if i define i386 [01:35] actually, sorry, misread that... it says it can't find a source package for it. ar [01:36] https://launchpad.net/~alexandre-montplaisir/+archive/winepulse [01:36] here is lauchpad using multi-arch support [01:38] hmm. upgrading to new 12.04 sounds like a bad idea for normal use.. [01:39] oo.. winepulse, even. that's just what i need. have been compiling the multimedia branch lately to get any sound out of wine [01:40] or is the name just misleading. still built from vanilla [01:40] only 1 way to find out [01:41] or maybe i might just read the description :) [01:43] hmm. I guess I will wait on trying beta. wine is a stopper. [01:43] for me at least [01:46] anyone know why most GS shell do not work in 12.04? Is it a code thing Ubuntu thing [01:52] hey, is anyone else having trouble loading the Gnome Fallback Session on the Precise beta 1? [01:52] have you updated lately? [01:53] c_smith, Do that first that fix my problem [01:53] c_smith, you load the gnome-shell that also loads the fallback. [01:53] Captain_Proton, I've been updating every few hours. [01:54] and my hardware is capable of running the default Gnome Shell, I just want the old Gnome 2 look. [01:54] can you load gnome-shell [01:54] i know just see [01:55] Captain_Proton, I'll have to install it, which where I'm at, a coffee shop, it isn't a suitable place to grab and install a bunch of packages like that, I'll have to install it later on, [01:55] what does it do now [01:56] hmmmmm, not as many packages are needed as I thought...... [01:56] I thought it would be up in the hundreds of megabyte's worth. [01:56] only about 10-20 mb. [01:56] k, I'll let you know when I get it installed and try. [01:57] k It may just fix your problem [01:57] kk [01:59] Captain_Proton, thanks for the tip, it really helped. [02:00] Gnome fallback is working. [02:00] sweet :) [02:01] might be the updates I applied a couple hours ago, or your tip, dunno for sure. [02:01] all good :) [02:01] either way, I had it working shortly before I did a clean install of beta 1 over alpha 2. :D [02:02] one thing I must say about Precise, is the new LightDM look is tight, modest changes really go a long way in this case. [02:03] that one o the thing that keep using ubuntu is the polish. [02:03] yup. [02:05] whaat? sound works with the distro version of wine. wonderful :) [02:06] i guess i don't need to build anything anymore [02:06] yea i seen they went back to alsa. [02:07] anyone here test the windows 8 customer preview? [02:08] yeah [02:09] what you think? [02:09] i test the dev not very good based on that i say it a turd [02:09] Captain_Proton, not bad, Ihave W7 as well, but I started on open source I just have windows cause I feel sorry for the users. :) [02:09] get better [02:10] no I have a win7 box to for games [02:10] many have no clue on dual booting that is where I help the most. [02:10] and in It so i have to kow it [02:10] linux for work windows for play [02:11] Steve Gibson call windows a toy lol:) [02:11] linux 99.99% for me. [02:11] oh, wow. the win8 preview was awful :) [02:11] anyone here uses TeamViewer in Precise ? [02:12] zuti: too much awful.. [02:12] fullscreen windows everywhere. can't wait to see how you are supposed to use any productive application [02:12] I smell bias. :) [02:13] The ##windows channel has plenty of hating go there, this is ubuntu development [02:13] I dont know Dvorak agress with them [02:14] Fyodorovna: I don't hate anything :) I like them as I like any other sucessful company, Ubuntu has good competitors to learn from :) [02:15] there is a channel for thta OS [02:15] that* [02:15] They talk about the ubuntu on Andriod on twit i think last week [02:15] Fyodorovna: THis channel is also just for precise, so aint you doing a bit offtopic too ? ;D [02:16] Captain_Proton: Seen the overview in OmgUbuntu [02:16] yes I answres once and left it at that. [02:17] answered. [02:17] yes it looks cool I keep my peice of crap phone till that comes out lol. did you preorder the sparkle tab [02:21] * glosoli Anyway if somebody Cares Gimp 2.7.4 will have Precise ppa in few weeks :) [02:23] * glosoli also Skype Guys replied that they didin't ditched Skype for Linux, even though there wasn't any release for years [02:34] hm... i see the outputs under sound settings aren't numbered anymore. a bit confusing to see four different outputs with the same exact name [02:42] has someone changed the terminal colors in precise. it's really messed up here [02:44] i changed the background a couple of hours ago. seemed to work. [02:44] eh, i'm talking about default terminal colors [02:45] ah :) [02:46] kanliot: the terminal colors should be the same as oneiric, but gtk made a bunch of theme changes this cycle [02:47] i think i'll just post a screenshot to the lubuntu mailing list [02:47] and all hell will break loose [02:53] hi, the overlay icon when i press volume up or down is now a lowresolution image, im running ubuntu precise with compiz turned on, any ideas guys ? [02:58] hi.. ok 12.04 beta1 locks at nouveau driver [02:58] how do I turn off nouveau kernel driver? [03:03] Evening, all [03:10] any way to blacklist kernel module from boot line? [03:13] think found it..bbl [03:14] does the HUD seem to not present logical choices at the moment? [04:47] hey guys, I'm running precise beta, and so far, it rocks. One thing I'd like to fix though is that when I move my mouse between screens, it "sticks" to the edge until I move it a certain distance. Can I disable that? === reith2004_ is now known as reith2004 [05:08] swaj, no, you cannot disable that. [06:07] you guys having any issues with the Dash search not returning anything meaningful? [06:07] Just tried searching for some of my music by artist name, and i get no results. [06:07] Coincidentally, I'm playing that same artists in Rhythmbox at the time [06:13] tried looking though google for a doc on how to use the hud and train it is there such a thing yet? [06:33] nanobolic_: not that i know of. to train it, you just use it. it will automatically group your frequently used actions first. [06:41] rigved, I tested it with firefox and going to the add-ons and it kept bringing up network connections [06:41] will have to keep using it I guess to see "how" to use it I guess [07:47] hmm.. minecraft runs like crap now [07:48] seems okay to begin with.. then just becomes really jerky/stuttery.. using either fglrx or radeon driver [07:50] ;/ [07:51] not sure if its a java problem.. a libwjgl problem.. minecraft problem.. etc [07:51] all i know is.. it used to run better at one point ;) [07:56] snadge: what java verison are you using ? [07:56] probably openjdk 6 [07:58] snadge: try this guide http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html [07:58] but first go to java website to check your java version [07:58] and check again after the guide [07:59] here http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp [08:06] yeah.. but im not sure if i can compile android with java 7 [08:07] i have a script which changes between the various installed versions of java though [08:08] can always try :p [08:15] hmm.. doesnt appear to make too much difference [09:45] might be compiz related.. unity2d works better with minecraft [10:21] hello , installing last beta ubuntu , gives that error x86_64 : http://bitsy.me/img4dy - WTF? [10:23] James_KL: stop the spamming [10:23] im not spam !! [11:19] just upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 beta1 and when loading google earth it gives the following error - error why loading shared libraries [11:19] how do i solve this [11:25] sindile: which libraries? [11:25] yofel [11:26] libGL.so.1 [11:28] lt [11:28] sindile: looks like a missing symlink to me, there is /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 but there's no /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1 symlink to that, which is why it fails [11:29] sindile: file a bug against libgl1-mesa-glx [11:29] that is provided by the alterantives [11:29] try reinstalling your mesa provider [11:30] well, that would be mese [11:30] *mesa [11:30] not necessarily [11:30] it can also be nvida or fglrx [11:30] I'm running nouveau, so it's mesa [11:30] but right, could be something else for him [11:30] try apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx [11:31] nope, still no symlink [11:31] /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so is there, /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1 not [11:31] weird [11:36] what do /etc/alternatives/x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf and /etc/ld.so.conf.d/x86_64-linux-gnu_GL.conf point to? [11:36] yofel: the .so symlink is installed by glx-dev is that installed [11:36] ? === _nyuszika7h_ is now known as nyuszika7h [11:41] 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 Feb 29 20:50 /etc/alternatives/x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf -> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/ld.so.conf [11:41] 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 Feb 11 12:16 /etc/ld.so.conf.d/x86_64-linux-gnu_GL.conf -> /etc/alternatives/x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf [11:41] the dev package is installed [11:42] hm, should theoretically be fine then [11:42] sindile: ^ ? [11:42] k so building will be a problem, but the ld.so.confs are correct so everything should work [12:06] Hi, my when I select a text and click both keys in my touchpad, nothing is pasted [12:07] click middlebutton [12:14] ripps: I don't have a middle button [12:14] crizzy: ^ [12:14] i've installed beta1 on mb air but grub/boot is not available. any way i can reenable grub/boot on mac/efi system w/o reinstall? [12:14] ajmitch: grub-install [12:14] aljosa: ^ [12:15] * edgy wonders why my new keyboard paste the wrong name twice [12:15] edgy: so boot ubuntu install, chroot and run grub-install? any idea if i should install on MBR or some partition? [12:20] edgy: ^^ then.. http://grepmonster.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/ubuntu-11-10-middle-mouse-button-emulation/ this might help [12:21] aljosa: yes, install on mbr [12:22] crizzy: ok thanks I will try that when I have access to my pc from work [12:22] crizzy: but why did they stop the emulation by default? [12:23] crizzy: is it a generic problem or based on specific hardware [12:23] no idea ^^ 2 button mouses being rarity nowadays perhaps [12:23] edgy: you said touchpad, does it paste if you tap with 2 fingers? [12:24] the middle button emulation for mouses has been gone for quite a while [12:25] morning [12:26] yofel: what do you mean by tap with 2 fingers? I pressed both keys to no avail [12:26] yofel: or do you mean touch the touchpad with 2 fingers instead? [12:26] latter [12:26] morning FernandoMiguel [12:27] which version of xinput will final 12.04 release have? anybody knows if recent xinput/multi-touch stuff will be available? [12:27] The following packages will be REMOVED: [12:27] compiz-plugins-extra [12:27] I guess we are losing even more effects :( [12:28] yofel: I touched but nothing is pasted [12:28] hm, tapping with 2 fingers is middle button click though usually [12:29] works for me at least [12:32] which script is being executed, by default, when eth0 goes up? [12:33] FernandoMiguel: Hmm maybe just dependencies problems ? [12:33] maybe.... [12:33] anyway compiz plugin extras, has nothing that I am enabled [12:34] yofel: thanks for your care [12:35] FernandoMiguel: they are not trying to remove for me [12:36] hi guys, i am having problems with gnome 2 under pangolin.. alt-tab doesn't do anything and the app buttons in the panel don't show the text, just the icons. actually, the selected app shows the text too but it's very faint. is this a known issue? is there a fix? [12:37] additionally, gdm does not display the keyboard layout selector, and it defaults to us qwerty, which makes it impossible for me to type in passwords [12:38] cheako: Gnome 2 in Pangolin?? [12:38] glosoli: did you apt-get update and dist-upgrade? [12:39] FernandoMiguel: sure I did [12:39] There was some updates and all were success [12:39] let me change mirrors [12:39] imma using MAIN [12:40] glosoli: yeah, the "gnome classic" mode or whatever it is called [12:40] glosoli: that is gnome 2, right? [12:40] or am i mixing things up? [12:40] cheako: it isnt :) [12:40] it's Gnome 3 [12:40] ah [12:41] but in a gnome 2 style setting? [12:41] ok [12:41] any ideas about the issues i am having? [12:41] cheako: GDM is ditched since Oneiric as I know [12:41] you installed it by yourself ? [12:41] it's not "ditched" since it's in a package [12:42] it's just not the default [12:42] it still should work [12:42] $ pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list [12:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/866603/ [12:42] glosoli: ^^^^ [12:42] hmm [12:43] cheako: maybe, sorry have no Idea about LightDM, since it's not default I dont ever use it again :) [12:43] FernandoMiguel: you change everything in that file ? [12:43] you mean gdm [12:43] ok [12:43] thanks anyways [12:44] maybe someone else will know about this gdm issue [12:44] cheater: you might try forums maybe anyone there will be using GDM [12:44] thanks [12:44] i think that's a good idea [12:44] anyway, LightDM is quite promising :) [12:44] minimalistic [12:46] actually from what ive seen lightdm is getting more features with each release. :) [12:46] i still wonder whats up with that grid of white dots.. [12:46] Dr_willis: It can be disabled [12:46] But don't remember how :D [12:47] i recall needing to use some extra ppa to disable it. but again. I dont see any point in them at all. it looks like somthing people just overlooked. ;) [12:48] so far 12.04 has been working decently on my problematic ati desktop test bed. :) [12:49] I did notice i had to change vlc2 to use alsa instead of 'default' for sound to not sound funny.. [12:49] Dr_willis: ATI laptop here [12:50] do you get these login corruptions ? [12:51] i see some initial corruption when X first starts then it clears up. Using the open drivers. not fglrx [12:52] not tried gnome-shell yet. [12:52] glosoli: I have a few on .d/ [12:53] The following packages have been kept back: [12:53] compiz compiz-core compiz-gnome compiz-plugins compiz-plugins-default compiz-plugins-main compiz-plugins-main-default debhelper libcompizconfig0 [12:53] libdecoration0 libnux-2.0-0 libnux-2.0-common libunity-core-5.0-5 unity unity-common unity-services [12:53] meh [12:53] I guess depencies are broken [12:53] as usual, Friday is always a bad day for upgrades [12:53] hmm. just updated/upgraded earlier and had no issues. [12:53] try a dist-upgrade? [12:54] FernandoMiguel: Friday ? ;D [12:54] yeah, was about to say that :> [12:54] glosoli: Saturday takes what ever fridays pushes [12:54] FernandoMiguel: aa :D [12:54] Dr_willis: if upgrade aint doing a clean upgrade, Im not disting it :) [12:54] I'm not THAT crazy [12:55] FernandoMiguel: disting may be needed for compiz [12:55] FernandoMiguel, dist-upgrade makes 'held back' packages upgrade... [12:55] ik [12:55] it does not upgrade to the next release... [12:55] i dist-upgrade all the time during beta [12:55] that's why you will see that message [12:55] until you dist upgrade [12:55] Dr_willis: I miss aptitude :( [12:55] * Dr_willis scoffs on aptitude [12:55] Dr_willis: you just need to check if it's not trying to remove smth by dist [12:55] ive had aptitude do some really weird things befor. :) [12:56] i cant recall seeing dist-upgrade removeing stuff.. guess its possible. :) [12:56] aptitude doesn't have multi arch support [12:56] dis-upgrade is supposed to handle just that, dependencies [12:56] Dr_willis: it's sometimes :) if dependencies are wrong, may times tryed to remvoe my ia32-libs, or evne unity itself, but it asks before [12:56] hence Im not using it [12:56] many times'' [12:57] normally during beta i have a script/alias that does a update,upgrade, dist-upgrade :) [12:57] The following packages will be REMOVED: [12:57] compiz-plugins-extra [12:57] hence why I'm not disting :) [12:57] reinstall it afterwards. [12:57] LOL [12:57] !package compiz-plugins-extra [12:57] could be that package has been obsoleted also. [12:57] I love compiz to much to even touch it [12:57] yeah, or the funcionality replaced by something else [12:58] i have to wonder if you are even using any of the extra plugins [12:58] I might [12:58] I avoid messing with it [12:58] it's just "perfect" [12:59] Check Compiz Config I am sure you aint using any [12:59] extra plugins [12:59] ;D [12:59] there are only three of them [12:59] if it's categorized properly anyway, be patience, dependencies will be fixed [12:59] $ sudo aptitude safe-upgrade [12:59] Unable to resolve dependencies for the upgrade: no solution found. [12:59] Unable to safely resolve dependencies, try running with --full-resolver. [12:59] As it didin't want to remove anything for me [13:00] FernandoMiguel: are you on x86 ? [13:00] ill wait a few days [13:00] :D [13:00] x64 [13:00] apt-get --fix-the-silly-thing [13:00] so what the ... for aptitude ? [13:00] lunch [13:00] bbl [13:00] glosoli: aptitude doesn't support multiarch [13:00] I have skype and a few others installed [13:01] what is multiarch? [13:01] sounds like a marketing term. :) [13:01] a 'Super Huge McDonolds [13:02] :DDD [13:02] multiarch is support for x86 packages in x64 systems. [13:02] heh [13:02] Daekdroom: oh, gotcha [13:27] So I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 32bit server onto virtual box. everything looks good up to the point that I pick my english and then press enter to install. This is where the error starts. this is what I get and it will not move past that. http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=201807 [13:28] bobweaver: Does virtualbox allow you to select features of the guest cpu? [13:29] long time since I've used it [13:29] Unity 5.4 isnt available for Ubuntu oneiric using ppa? [13:29] ppa:unity-team/ppa dont have anything compiled [13:29] (Im using 5.4 in precise and this is why ive asked here) [13:29] penguin42, yes [13:30] bobweaver: Then try enabling PAE in the guest CPUs [13:30] yep, that's it ^ [13:30] PAE_NX ? [13:30] yep, tick that box [13:30] bobweaver: Hmm NX is something else [13:31] It looks like it could be YEs it is working \0/ [13:31] penguin42: vbox provides this as one config option. [13:31] thanks oCean and penguin42 [13:32] there is a pae kernel out the git go I take it [13:32] bobweaver: Out of interest was this a new VM you created or just booted the CD on a previously created VM? [13:33] it was just a regual setup [13:33] sorry about spelling [13:33] I picked ubuntu and names it pannel and gave it 20 gig HDD and 1gig ram [13:34] [13:34] then grabed the cd and put it onto the storage drive [13:34] for booting not a real cd just a iso image [13:36] I wonder if I create new one and call it server if it will check PAE_NX for me auto or not === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:38] penguin42, oCean do you all have wiki's ? [13:38] would like to put up a postive thing for the both of you. it is the least I can do [13:39] bobweaver: hah, that's nice, but there is no need. [13:46] bobweaver: No I don't; but thanks - your thanks will be held in perpetuity in the logs of the channel? [13:47] Does anyone here have magneto installed on there server ? I can not get it to install I get to the part where it wants to create the data base and it can not ever sign in I have tried adding sql users and useing there profile I ave tried roots profile. [13:59] Hi, I updated my kernel and now cannot install nvidia driver [13:59] http://pastebin.ca/2123791 [14:00] what can I do to fix it? [14:14] edgy: which version of kernel and are you using latest nvidia ? [14:14] ubuntu precise with kernel 3.3.0-030300rc5-generic [14:14] edgy: how do you managed to get 3.3 in precise ? [14:19] glosoli: one of the bugs in launchapd asked to to test the latest kernel from canonical kernel site [14:19] edgy: Did you tryed latest nvidia driver, or you're already using it ? [14:20] glosoli: I was using it on my old kernel but when booted the new one it didn't work so I tried installing and got [14:20] ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.3.0-030300rc5-generic is not supported [14:20] Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.3.0-030300rc5-generic (x86_64) [14:21] "is not supported" [14:22] edgy: OPen Source drivers works just fine yes ? [14:22] Hi, I've created a LiveUSB out of 12.04-beta1 using unetbootin, Lili, and universal usb installer, and with all 3 i get boot problems (usually kernel panic), but the cdrom I burned from the same iso works fine, any ideas? [14:22] jStefan: You should just be able to dd the 12.04 cd image onto a thumb drive [14:22] jStefan, just dd the iso file to a usb. Or under windows . i used the tools from pendrivelinux to make one earlier today that worked [14:24] glosoli: how can I check? [14:25] penguin42, ok thanks [14:25] edgy: just remove nvidia driver and do: http://bpaste.net/show/24514/ [14:28] glosoli: nvidia works with my old kernel, can't I just keep it and enable the open source driver for this kernel only? [14:30] edgy: well, I don't know if you can, and if you can, I don't know how to [14:30] edgy: what problem do you have with older kernel ? [14:30] edgy: all old kernels should show up in the grub boot menu [14:30] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/944271 [14:30] Launchpad bug 944271 in linux (Ubuntu) "iwlwifi: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting 0x2000000" [Medium,Confirmed] [14:33] edgy: the way the driver is set up you can only use it for all kernels, or none [14:33] yofel: ok [14:35] how is the new lts lookin? [14:37] thanks guys for your help [14:37] Raggs: promising [14:38] major bugs or is it fairly stable at this point? [14:38] Raggs: for me it's fairly stable with some anyoing minor bugs :) [14:40] hello [14:41] glosoli: i might just have to wait for it to come out [14:41] hi, how stable is pangolin already? [14:42]