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jokerdinoi am trying hard to make pornview build from source but i keep failing :(06:44
vibhavjokerdino: Maybe I could help you07:06
vibhavSuppose I want a package that is of an old version in Ubuntu be updated from upstream,what doo I do?07:09
jokerdinoi dropped pornview and i am now messing with uisp07:14
crimsunhmm? still at it? :-)07:15
jokerdinolol :/07:15
* crimsun is waiting for digikam to finish test-building on armhf07:15
nigelbheh, pornview.07:15
* nigelb gets reminded of a particularly long discussion on a m/l related to it.07:15
jokerdinowhen i dropped the patch, i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/865632/07:16
jokerdinofor pornview07:16
jokerdinonigelb: why on earth is it named pornview? misleading name.07:16
crimsunjokerdino: that shouldn't cause the build to fail, though07:16
vibhavjokerdino: pornview caused a huge flame war at the unity-design mailing list07:17
jokerdinoi know. ;)07:17
crimsunflamewar? why is that not surprising?07:17
nigelband there was a total of 1 email about the name.07:18
nigelbjokerdino: It's like the old libp0rn.07:19
jokerdinoo.O07:19
jokerdinoweird FOSS people07:19
jokerdinoi was expecting a backlash for that X lens.07:20
crimsunheh, the merged pornview FTBFS with a missing -lpng anyway07:22
nigelbalso, hi crimsun! I just realized why the nick sounded familiar :)07:23
crimsunnigelb: hiya!07:24
jokerdinocrimsun: what is that supposed to mean? :S07:24
crimsunah, pornview is a multiarch casualty07:24
vibhavnigelb: Can I PM you ?07:24
crimsunjokerdino: it's looking for libpng in the wrong place07:24
jokerdinowah.07:24
crimsunit'll take another 4 hours to compile digikam anyway ;-)07:25
jokerdinodropping the ubuntu patch makes it build07:25
nigelbvibhav: sure07:25
jokerdinocrimsun: i can build pornview after dropping the ubuntu patch. should i upload the modified dsc to my PPA for verification?07:27
crimsunjokerdino: sure, or use sbuild or pbuilder07:27
jokerdinopbuilder gives positive results.07:27
jokerdinodpkg-deb: building package `pornview' in `../pornview_0.2pre1-11ubuntu2_amd64.deb'.07:28
crimsunjokerdino: that isn't the merged one ;-)07:28
crimsunSource-Version: 0.2pre1-11.1ubuntu107:28
crimsunSpace: 1242807:28
crimsunStatus: attempted07:28
jokerdinoi thought mom did the merging?07:28
crimsunjokerdino: it attempts to07:29
* jokerdino is confused.07:29
crimsunjokerdino: note that your version string is 11ubuntu2, which is "older" (less) than 11.1ubuntu107:29
jokerdinowah, i used the wrong dsc07:30
jokerdinoi will get back to you07:30
jokerdinowell, it failed.07:34
jokerdinono more p0rn for 12.04 then07:34
nigelblol07:35
jokerdinoregarding uisp, i can't find this patch07:40
jokerdino Build with -Wno-error as some warn_unused_result warnings are07:40
jokerdino+    generated. Fixes FTBFS.07:40
jokerdinomay be it was a bad idea to try uisp07:49
vibhavjokerdino: heh07:49
jokerdinoi will pick the relatively easier looking radare07:50
jokerdinono success with radare either08:13
crimsunuploaded pornview08:14
jokerdinooh wow08:14
vibhavcrimsun: Congrats08:14
crimsunjokerdino: don't worry, that one was kinda hairy. It was easier to keep the Ubuntu delta.08:14
jokerdinohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/866336/ what about radare :?08:15
crimsunjokerdino: hmm, what are you attempting?08:18
jokerdinotrying to build the debian src without modifications08:18
jokerdino(crimsun https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pornview/+bug/935370)08:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 935370 in pornview (Ubuntu Precise) "pornview version 0.2pre1-11ubuntu2 FTBFS on i386 in precise" [High,New]08:19
crimsunhmm, I fail.08:20
crimsunI utterly forgot to update the changed-by :/08:20
crimsunoh well, guess Ubuntu Merge-o-Matic gets more karma ;-)08:21
jokerdinoLOL :p08:22
jokerdinoi am going to do something other than rc bugs08:24
crimsungood luck :)08:27
jokerdinois this bug still open? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-user-docs/+bug/80485508:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 804855 in gnome-user-docs (Ubuntu) "Typo string 913" [Low,Fix committed]08:40
vibhavHow Do I update packages in Ubuntu?08:56
jokerdinowhich package?08:56
jokerdinoyou mean locally or in the repo?08:56
vibhavrepo08:56
jokerdinoyou need to sync it from debian.08:57
jokerdinobut i am not very sure about the process. i will withdraw from your question08:57
vibhavthanks08:57
vibhavI dont know any programming launguage, can I w\still contribute to MOTU??09:07
vibhavNever Mind, I have started working on "Needs Packaging Bugs"09:10
valdur55Cups default filters doesn't include Samsung-ML1670 fiters...09:13
valdur55filters. How can i fix it?09:13
vibhavIS there any way I can know the dependencies of a specific program using the 'configure' script?09:17
jokerdinoyou can use apt-cache show rdepends packagename09:18
arandvibhav: I think you'll need to do some detective work there, normally.09:18
arandI'm assuming that this is a new package09:19
vibhavarand: The package is not in the repos09:19
arandvibhav: And if it is a new package, aim to package it for Debian first.09:19
vibhavarand: I was working on a "Needs PAckaging" bug09:19
valdur55vibhav, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#auto-apt09:19
jokerdinovibhav:  there is no readme file?09:20
vibhavjokerdino: There is, but it doesnt list the dependencies09:20
arandvaldur55: Oh, that's a convenient one :)09:20
vibhav( https://launchpad.net/unity-lens-bliss )09:20
arandOh, though packaging Unity bits for Debian might be tricky... :)09:21
vibhavI was going to say that09:21
vibhavCant I directly package it for Ubuntu and upload to my PPA09:22
arandOf course.09:23
vibhavBut I dont know the dependencies :(09:23
jokerdinotake a wild guess haha09:24
vibhavNo way09:24
jokerdinoi am guessing it has the same depen as the unity-lens-app09:24
vibhavWhat are the dependencies of                     ^09:25
vibhavfound out09:26
vibhavsyntax error in unity-lens-bliss-0.1.3/debian/control at line 16: line with unknown format (not field-colon-value)09:46
vibhavCan anybody tell me the reason of the problem?09:46
arandCould you pastebin the control file?09:49
jtaylorhurray pytables built :)12:15
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vibhavMy builds are failing giving the message "Missing build dependencies: libunity-dev (>= 5.2)"14:03
jokerdinoadd it to the control14:03
jokerdinothe debian/control file14:03
jtaylortumbleweed: your build status history is not updating anymore :(14:44
drosshey guys :3 Can sexually explicit packages be in MOTU? i.e. XXX slash screens of the GIMP mascot14:58
ScottKdross: Go read the code of conduct and then think about it.14:59
drossScottK: I don't see anything against it in there15:01
ScottKNot a specific 'rule', but think about the intent of it.15:01
drossto cater those who use gimp for rather xxx nature of commissions :-)15:02
drossScottK: I dont' think it's inconsiderate since people won't use it unless they are looking for it15:03
drossi.e. Bible tools, not everyone believes in "God" or are religious at all15:03
jtaylorwell, but its very optional, why offend the easily offended15:03
jtaylormore people will complain that its there than that its not15:03
ScottKdross: Where's the line?  If there was a package that contained images of people being tortured to death, would that be OK?15:03
drossyou all are offending athiests and those who don't believe in God by including bible tools15:03
drosshow is that any different15:04
ScottKdross: It's not a black and white thing.15:04
drossScottK: so are you saying the ubuntu project is controlled by christian morals?15:05
drossthat's what I'm getting from this conversation15:05
ScottKdross: No.15:05
ScottKI'm saying it takes some balancing.15:06
drossit would be optional and even the package name would be very apparent15:06
ScottKFWIW, I think offending Muslim morals is more of a concern.  There is a very popular derivative oriented towards them, so from my POV Christian morals aren't even the worst case.15:07
PaoloRotoloHi all!15:07
ScottKdross: I don't actually know the answer to your question and I'd have to see exactly what we're talking about to have a firm opinion.  My answer to your question is "maybe".15:07
drossScottK: let me get you a thread. i was just messing around and even told the gimp developers. Now it's turning in to an interest.15:08
drosshttp://lulz.net/furi/res/1993335.html15:08
ScottKdross: I'm just about to have to leave, so I really can't look into it further right now.15:08
drosssplash mockup http://img.lulz.net/src/Untitled.png  (NSFW)15:10
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vibhavMy builds are failing giving the message "Missing build dependencies: libunity-dev (>= 5.2)"16:28
Ampelbeinvibhav: For what release are you trying to build?16:29
vibhavAmpelbein: oneiric16:31
vibhavAmpelbein: https://launchpad.net/~vibhavp/+archive/needspackaging/+build/325638816:32
vibhavIts stuck on "Dependency wait"16:32
Ampelbeinvibhav: See the rmadison output at http://paste.ubuntu.com/866899/, oneiric doesn't have that version of libunity-dev16:32
jtayloroneiric only has 4.016:32
vibhavAmpelbein: How Do I build it for oneiric then ?16:33
Ampelbeinvibhav: You could try to backport the precise version to oneiric16:34
Ampelbein(of libunity-dev)16:34
vibhavIll package it for precise then16:34
vibhavwill backport it later16:34
vibhavthanks Ampelbein16:35
Ampelbeinyw16:35
vibhavAlso, Is fixing "Need Packaging" Bugs also called contributing to MOTU ?16:39
AmpelbeinOf course.16:39
vibhavAmpelbein: I uploaded a package for a certain "Needs Packaging" Bug , what do I do next ?16:40
vibhavin my PPA *16:40
Ampelbeinvibhav: The preferred way to get new applications in Ubuntu is via Debian first, but there's also REVU so that people can review16:42
Ampelbein!revu | vibhav16:42
ubottuvibhav: REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu-specific packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU  Please consider maintaining new packages in Debian rather than Ubuntu, they can be easily synced across.16:42
vibhavAmpelbein: The Application is for unity, so I upload it to Ubuntu.16:43
Ampelbeinvibhav: Then REVU is the way to go.16:43
vibhav"REVU is no longer the primary path for submitting new packages for Ubuntu"16:45
vibhavBut I can still use it, right?16:45
ScottKYes, but you'll have to look for reviewers.16:49
ScottKAlso we're past feature freeze, so you'd have to have release team approval to get any new packages in.16:49
vibhavWhere will I get reviewers from ?16:54
ScottKHere is probably the best place.16:55
vibhavI just uploaded a new package, Its telling me that I have 0 uploads16:59
vibhavhttp://revu.ubuntuwire.com/u/vibhavp17:00
m4n1shvibhav: how did you upload to REVU?17:00
vibhavm4n1sh: dput17:03
m4n1shvibhav: full command? maybe you used the wrong URI or something17:03
vibhavdput revu unity-lens-bliss_0.1.3-1_source.change17:03
m4n1shvibhav: " Processing of uploads is done every 5 min" from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU17:04
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tumbleweedjtaylor: I moved it to ubuntuwire http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/lp-ftbfs-report/historical/primary-precise.html17:53
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RcartHello, while working on a bitsize bug, created a patch and commited the changes, quilt creates a .pc dir20:54
RcartI wanna know if is recommends to delete that dir before commiting the changes, or let it in there20:54
jtayloropinions diverge here, I prefere branches without quilt stuff20:55
Rcartdoes it matters?20:55
jtaylornot really, it just keeps the diff smaller20:56
RcartOk, I'll remove it. Thanks jtaylor (:20:57
brodera udd branch should always have the patches applied, including the .pc dir21:22
broderthere are things that are unfortunate about it, but that's the udd format for 3.0 (quilt) patches. trying to not submit branches like that causes problems during review21:22
Rcartbroder: what kind of problems?21:30
broderRcart: it increases the probability that a sponsor will run into problems merging21:31
broderi don't think i've ever been able to merge a branch with patches unapplied directly - i always have to go and apply the patches and then merge it21:31
RcartUnderstood21:37
Rcartbroder: do you have some time to review this fix-typo branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~rcart/ubuntu/precise/hyperestraier/fix-91418021:42
broderRcart: sure, i'll take a look21:42
broderRcart: did you commit with the patches unapplied? there's a lot of diff for just a debian/control typo fix21:43
RcartI'm using edit-patch, and I guess that it unapplies the patches21:43
Rcartyes, the diff is scary21:44
broderah, you used edit-patch to change the debian/control file?21:44
Rcartyep21:44
broderwe don't use patch systems like quilt to modify stuff in the debian/ directory21:44
broderjust stuff outside of it21:44
broderfor stuff in the debian directory, you can just modify it directly21:44
broderin this particular case, this is a package that ubuntu is getting from debian, right?21:44
Rcartwithout any patch? just the changelog entry?21:44
Rcartyes21:45
broderRcart: yes, just the changelog entry. no edit-patch needed21:46
Rcartawesome, I'll fix it right away21:46
broderRcart: it might be easiest to just start over so we  can get rid of the rest of that diff21:46
broderonce you've made the change, you can push --force lp:~rcart/ubuntu/precise/blah/blah/blah21:47
broderto overwrite the branch that's already there21:47
Rcartin fact I do --overwrite for the push21:47
brodererr, right that one21:47
brodersorry, i'm mostly a git person21:47
Rcartshould I report this to upstream?21:48
broderRcart: not upstream, but you should report it to debian21:48
broderwe actually have a script that makes that really easy - submittodebian21:48
broderyou can run it once you've made your change21:49
Rcartyeah, I mean debian21:49
broderfor any package that we're importing from debian, we almost always prefer getting the change from debian to maintaining it ourselves, at least in the long term21:50
broderso i would have asked you to submit it to debian anyway :)21:50
Rcartupdated (:21:56
broderRcart: much better :). i'll go ahead and sponsor it now21:57
Rcartthank you broder, I'm gonna submit it to debian (:21:58
broderawesome. do you know how to associate the debian bug with the ubuntu one on lp?21:59
Rcartyep, adding a bug watcher, no?21:59
broderright21:59
broderthat's important because it means that down the line people can easily confirm that you sent the bug to debian22:00
RcartOk22:00
Rcartbtw, I'll work on this bug too #90248522:01
Rcartbug 90248522:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 902485 in mpd (Ubuntu) "mpd unable to create database" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90248522:01
RcartIt's a typo, and this time I need to work on a  patch, right?22:02
Rcartsorry, needs to update a string*22:03
broderRcart: is the only change that the "start-create-db" needs to be removed from the usage string of the initscript?22:03
Rcartyes22:04
broderit's not trying to create the database from the package's postinst script or something?22:04
Rcartthe database creation is now inside mpd, not needed to be called directly22:05
broderok22:05
broderthe initscript usually lives at debian/packagename.init or debian/init22:05
brodersince it's inside the debian/ directory, you just modify it directly22:05
RcartOk, and then report it to debian as well?22:06
brodersure. have you checked that debian hasn't fixed this already?22:07
Rcartyes, I did. There's no bug report about it.22:08
brodercool. then yeah, fix it and report it to debian22:08
Rcartawesome22:09
broderRcart: still working on a test build of hyperestraier, btw - my network connection's a bit slow today22:21
Rcartbroder: No worries (:22:26
broderdamnit, i need to do more ppa uploads. "dput ubuntu" comes out without thinking if i'm not careful23:23
jtaylor^^23:24
Rcarthttps://code.launchpad.net/~rcart/ubuntu/precise/mpd/fix-902485/+merge/9576123:27
Rcartbroder: would you review it please?23:28
broderRcart: sure, looking now23:34
broderRcart: the patch looks good, but it seems like there are a bunch of bugs open against mpd about install-time failures23:37
brodere.g. bug #77857123:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 778571 in mpd (Ubuntu) "package mpd 0.16.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77857123:37
broderif that still happens, it would be nice to fix those now23:37
broderif you don't want to, though, i can just upload the patch and we can move on23:37
broderhmm, actually, it's not clear that all of the postinst faliure bugs are the same23:39
Rcartbroder: I've never try to fix FTBFS bugs S:23:40
broderRcart: these aren't FTBFS; they're failure to install23:40
broderbut they alos seem to be a pretty mixed bag - this may not matter as much as i had thought23:41
RcartI would like to try to fix them, but no have experience on that kind of bugs S:23:42
RcartDo you have any link on debian/ubuntu about it? I'd really like to work on that kind of bugs23:46
Rcart(kind of bored of typos)23:46
broderi do'nt know of any references, but i can try to help you understand what's going on23:47
Rcartawesome, let's do it then =P23:48
broderanyway, i don't see anything obvious with any of the install failures, so i'll just upload your typo fix23:48
Rcartbroder: take a look: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=48935323:59
ubottuDebian bug 489353 in mpd "failure to start causes failure to install/upgrade" [Normal,Open]23:59

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