[02:29] <M4dH4TT3r> hey can someone help me im having some serious issues with bluetooth in ubuntu
[02:30] <M4dH4TT3r> hiya Alanbell how are you today?
[02:31] <pangolin> M4dH4TT3r: this isn't the support channel
[02:31] <M4dH4TT3r> ohh i know but im banned from the support channel still so this is the next best option
[02:31] <bazhang> try askubuntu.com
[02:31] <pangolin> no, this is not the next best option
[02:32]  * M4dH4TT3r still doesnt do forums
[02:32] <pangolin> We still don't do support here, sorry.
[02:32] <M4dH4TT3r> but thanks for kicking that dead horse
[02:33] <M4dH4TT3r> well then maybe you can let me into #ubuntu so i can get support...???
[02:33] <pangolin> not today
[02:34] <M4dH4TT3r> well ive been waiting over a year now so im guessing tomarrows probally out of the question too
[02:35] <pangolin> funny you got banned 2 days ago
[02:35] <pangolin> how does that add up to a year?
[02:35] <M4dH4TT3r> See: ikonia for details
[02:35] <M4dH4TT3r> sorry over a year
[02:36] <M4dH4TT3r> probally closer to 2
[02:36] <pangolin> anyway, you will not be unbanned today.
[02:36] <M4dH4TT3r> well then if you wont let me get support your just gonna have to support me yourself ;)
[02:37] <pangolin> That isn't how it works
[02:37] <pangolin> if you want support you will need to resolve the ban first
[02:37] <M4dH4TT3r> so i have to pay first huh
[02:38] <pangolin> To get that done it will require you agree to follow our channel guidelines and our code of conduct
[02:38] <M4dH4TT3r> ive already agreed to that
[02:38] <pangolin> great
[02:38] <pangolin> You still aren't going to be unbanned today.
[02:38] <M4dH4TT3r> lmfao
[02:38] <M4dH4TT3r> nice burn
[02:38] <pangolin> you can appeal the decision if you like
[02:38] <pangolin> !appeals
[02:39] <M4dH4TT3r> ive already mentioned i dont do forums i belive ;)
[02:39] <pangolin> you apparently also don't read well either
[02:41] <M4dH4TT3r> email is the same as forums
[02:42] <pangolin> it is your choice to follow our procedures or not.
[02:42] <pangolin> I am telling you that you will not be unbanned today.
[02:42] <M4dH4TT3r> yeah but its also your choise to make the procedures and your choice to enforce them
[02:42] <pangolin> Now please part the channel as we are done here
[02:43] <M4dH4TT3r> so no matter what im outnumbered 2 to 1
[02:43] <pangolin> you see this as a fight, the only thing preventing you from getting access to #ubuntu is you.
[02:44] <pangolin> anyway, we are done. have a good night
[02:44] <M4dH4TT3r> fight?
[02:44] <M4dH4TT3r> i never said anything about a fight...
[02:44] <pangolin> an argument, battle, something that you feel you need to win.
[02:44] <M4dH4TT3r> this is merely a discussion about my being freed from bondage
[02:46] <M4dH4TT3r> i belive it is you making such assumptions as to my thoughts and character
[02:47] <M4dH4TT3r> so it is in fact you who belives this is a fight
[02:47] <bazhang> M4dH4TT3r, please exit the channel
[02:47] <M4dH4TT3r> brb my wife is calling
[02:48] <M4dH4TT3r> ok im back
[02:49] <M4dH4TT3r> jeeze you ubuntu opps always ask people to leave have you ever thought about turning that negative into a posative and asking people to stay?
[02:52] <M4dH4TT3r> lol my bad sorry i forgot our conversation yesterday ill be leaving this channel now :)
[02:53] <M4dH4TT3r> i forgot i was just supposed to ban evade and skip the groveling this bluetooth problem cause me to forget bye all
[09:07] <guntbert> hi, I think it might be a good idea to make ubottu address the nick of the invoking person when !list has no "target" mentioned in the channel
[09:08] <guntbert> background: just now there was a misunderstanding in #u, zcat[1] left angry because he thought it was targeted at him
[09:08] <Myrtti> I don't know if that is technically possible
[09:08] <knome> there can be misunderstanding of *every* factoid then?
[09:09] <Myrtti> knome: !list can feel a bit accusory to a bystander
[09:09] <guntbert> knome: not as much, !list is rarely used to tell it to someone else
[09:10] <guntbert> Myrtti: exactly what happened right now
[09:10] <knome> !patiense ?
[09:10] <knome> s=c
[09:10]  * knome sucks today at typing
[09:10] <guntbert> knome: I don't want to argue, it was only a quick idea, ...
[09:10] <knome> no, i'm just wondering
[09:11] <Myrtti> it is a good idea, I just don't know if it is technically possible
[09:11] <Myrtti> knome: you do know the usecase of !list, don't you?
[09:11] <knome> Myrtti, yup.
[09:11] <Myrtti> (just checking)
[09:11] <guntbert> and I don't know if it is possible either, but there will be people who do know
[09:12] <knome> Myrtti, use $who
[09:12] <knome> Myrtti, but of course, that *always* prints the nick then...
[09:13] <guntbert> Myrtti: knome: having delivered my load  :-) - thats it for now, thx for your time...
[09:13] <Myrtti> !list | knome
[09:13] <Myrtti> mmm.
[09:13] <knome> Myrtti, yes, i know. but still.
[09:13] <knome> !list
[09:13] <knome> this is why it might work
[09:13] <Myrtti> I'll change it back for now
[09:14] <knome> because it's only the warez guys using the factoid?
[09:14] <Myrtti> yeah
[09:16]  * knome is off for now, see you
[09:16] <Myrtti> !list
[09:16] <Myrtti> right, so, opinions? ^
[09:51] <Bacta> Hi Alan
[09:51] <AlanBell> hello Bacta
[09:51] <Bacta> :)
[09:52] <Bacta> As you may know I've got what I think was referred to as a global ban across all of the Ubuntu channels. I've attempted to appeal it but never heard back. I was wondering if we could discuss it here
[09:53] <Tm_T> Bacta: I believe your option is to contact ubuntu irc council via email
[09:53] <AlanBell> yes, you do indeed have a namespace ban
[09:54] <Bacta> Tm_T: I attempted to but never got a reply
[09:54] <Bacta> This was in August last year
[09:55] <Tm_T> Bacta: unfortunately there's nothing I can help you with that, try again sending the email
[09:55] <AlanBell> I see emails requesting that you should be banned, but I am not finding anything from you
[09:56] <AlanBell> the requests go back to 2009
[09:56] <Bacta> Ok. Will I have to use my real name?
[09:56] <AlanBell> well give me something to search for, yes
[09:57] <AlanBell> I did a full text search for "bacta" and only found complaints about you that had been escallated to the IRCC
[09:57] <Bacta> Strange.
[09:57] <Bacta> What was the email address?
[09:58] <AlanBell> I am not giving out email addresses of people who complained about you
[09:58] <AlanBell> do you have any further suggestions of things I might search for to find this email?
[10:03] <AlanBell> tell you what, you have a hunt for this email in your sent box, otherwise send a new one
[10:03] <AlanBell> !appeals
[10:03] <AlanBell> there is an appeal process there, with the address to send it to
[10:03] <Bacta> Didn't ask for their email addresses
[10:03] <Bacta> Wanted the one to send to
[10:04] <AlanBell> ircc-appeals@ubottu.com
[10:04] <Bacta> Thanks
[10:04] <AlanBell> ok, I will ask you to leave the channel if that is all for now
[10:05] <Bacta> Sent
[10:05] <Bacta> Ok
[10:05] <Bacta> Thanks
[10:07] <AlanBell> now why did that not create a new ticket I wonder
[10:16] <AlanBell> ah, there it is
[10:29] <glosoli> Hey any possibility to ban spammer from Ubuntu+1 channel which already leaved ? pasting short links to some kinds of a russian website with videos and etc
[10:30] <oCean> glosoli: he is/was in several channels
[10:30] <oCean> was
[10:30] <glosoli> oCean: ah, so you seen it too :) ?
[10:31] <glosoli> oh, it was your text above the him, sorry didin't see ;D
[10:31] <oCean> glosoli: yes, that's why I told him to stop it (in +1)
[10:31] <oCean> :)
[10:31] <glosoli> sorry. have a good day :)
[10:31] <oCean> glosoli: no problem, thanks anyway
[10:34] <oCean> glosoli: if there's nothing more, don't forget to /part this channel..
[10:34] <glosoli> aa ok :)
[16:46] <pangolin> !no final is <reply>If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1.
[17:23] <oCean> anyon: yes?
[17:23] <anyon> where do I fill a butthurt assesment?
[17:24] <pangolin> anyon: what is the problem exactly?
[17:24] <oCean> I suspect this is going nowhere
[17:24] <anyon> where's the report form?
[17:24] <pangolin> !appeals
[17:24] <anyon> ubuntu council?
[17:24] <anyon> yes
[17:25] <anyon> my wrong
[17:25] <anyon> sorry
[17:25] <anyon> what was the chan for ubuntu council?
[17:25] <pangolin> first you email them, if they want you to join the channel they will ask you.
[17:26] <anyon> !council
[17:26] <anyon> !info council
[17:26] <pangolin> stop fishing
[17:27] <pangolin> I gave you the info you need to contact the Ubuntu IRC Council.
[17:27] <pangolin> anything else?
[17:27] <anyon> what's the channel, please?
[17:27] <anyon> they had an irc chan on this server
[17:28] <pangolin> click the link ubottu gave you. it has all the info you need
[17:28] <oCean> anyon: you might want to read the link ubottu gave you
[17:29] <pangolin> anyon: was there anything else we could help with?
[17:30] <anyon> they canceled the #ubuntu-council? :(
[17:30] <pangolin> reading all the words on the wiki page would be helpful
[17:31] <anyon> oh thanks, didn't notice the -irc-council
[17:32] <anyon> thanks guys, have a nice morning
[18:24] <anyon> pangolin, explain
[18:24] <anyon> pangolin
[18:25] <pangolin> anyon: you clearly did not read the guidelines you were linked earlier. Now you have a week to read them.
[18:25] <anyon> ban for a week?
[18:25] <anyon> impossibru!
[18:25] <anyon> my ip renews every 3 days
[18:26] <anyon> do i have to come every 3 days and ask you to ban me?
[18:26] <pangolin> anyon: save me the trouble and don't join the channel at all
[18:27] <anyon> pangolin, do you have such thing at all, though?
[18:27] <pangolin> I don't understand the question
[18:27] <anyon> my firefox won't work on pr0nhub, i need some pr0nbrowser..
[18:27] <anyon> it says h.264 not supported
[18:27] <pangolin> anyon: this isn't a support channel
[18:27] <anyon> you banned me on the support channel!
[18:27] <pangolin> I did.
[18:27] <anyon> for asking for support, ironically
[18:28] <pangolin> I'll give you a hint, look into installing flash. Now please part this channel
[18:28] <anyon> Still why would you ban someone that needs help?
[18:29] <pangolin> because you were being disruptive even after I gave you a link to our channel guidelines
[18:29] <anyon> DISRUPTIVE? I WAS ASKING FOR HELP
[18:29] <pangolin> this to me shows you didn't bother to read them.
[18:29] <anyon> I read them the first time i came to here
[18:29] <anyon> that would be 2010 i suppose
[18:30] <pangolin> and yet you still felt it was ok to repeat your question quickly and to go fishing with the bot
[18:30] <anyon> maybe there was my problem in the faq?
[18:30] <anyon> in the bot's database?
[18:30] <anyon> who knew?
[18:31] <anyon> and i didn't repeat it
[18:31] <anyon> Is there a pr0n browser for ubuntu 11.10? *UNITY* <[18:31] <pangolin> anyon: I don't have time to waste. The ban is going to be a week, if you ban evade ( your ip changing and you joining the channel is ban evading) the ban will be extended
[18:31] <anyon> I see nothing breaking the rules in my question
[18:32] <anyon> and what link you gave me?
[18:32] <pangolin> ubottu: tell anyon about guidelines
[18:33] <pangolin> ubottu: tell anyon about codeofconduct
[18:33] <pangolin> Now we are done. have a nice day.
[18:33] <anyon> so you give me the link afterwards but you ban me the first time?
[18:33] <pangolin> I gave you the link earlier, just before you joined this channel the first time
[18:34] <anyon> when was that? I just joined this channel
 !guidelines | anyon Read this please
 anyon Read this please: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
 oh hi pango, no need to, ur the man
[18:35] <anyon> what?
[18:36] <pangolin> you even acknowledged it.
[18:36] <anyon> w-what?
[18:36] <anyon> where can i complain of operators, please?
[18:36] <pangolin> you are banned. that's it.
[18:36] <pangolin> I also gave you the link to the appeals earlier
[18:36] <pangolin> enough wasting time
[18:37] <anyon> dude, what?
[18:38] <pangolin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/867070/
[18:38] <pangolin> Please part now.
[18:38] <anyon> You're saying that I talked to you, before, but I just got in here, looking for a solution to my browser wich won't display pr0nhub.com
[18:39] <pangolin> Please stop.
[18:39] <anyon> what?!
[18:39] <pangolin> The more time you make me waste explaining the same thing to you the less time I have to help people who actually need help.
[18:40] <pangolin> I know you think this is fun but really it is annoying, disrespectful and just plain stupid.
[18:40] <anyon> pangolin, I understand that, but how could you have even talked to me if I just started xchat?
[18:40] <pangolin> We are done, leave this channel.
[18:40] <anyon> sir, have i insulted you or your ways of .. fixing stuff?
[18:42] <Myrtti> you've been given the link to the appeals page
[18:42] <anyon> sir, are you being racist and calling me annoying, disrespectful and plain stupid cause I'm canadian?
[18:42] <Tm_T> anyon: you've been asked to leave, and as the conversation isn't proceeding, just follow the information given ^
[19:08] <Silverlion> hi nixternal
[19:15] <pangolin> !away > varela_
[21:11] <Myrtti> oh great.
[21:12] <Myrtti> I'm cleaning out -offtopic bans and get a pm how do I get to be an op
[21:18] <Myrtti> !canibeanop > baconbacon123
[21:27] <baconbacon123> Myritti keeps unbanning adverisers
[21:27] <ikonia> baconbacon123: please stop with random comments
[21:27] <ikonia> baconbacon123: you know they are not advertiser and it doesn't matter if they are
[21:27] <ikonia> is there something you need help with from the operator team ?
[21:28] <Myrtti> baconbacon123: hello
[21:28] <baconbacon123> yes they were nm and they just remvoed op status
[21:28] <ikonia> baconbacon123: you are making no sense
[21:29] <baconbacon123> they just removed Myritti op status "ChanServ removes channel operator status from Myrtti"
[21:30] <ikonia> baconbacon123: Myrtti did that
[21:30] <ikonia> baconbacon123: don't concern your self with it
[21:31] <baconbacon123> ok im sorry i thot *!*@c-71-61-33-254.hsd1.pa.comcast.net was a advertiser im sorry nun of my business
[21:31] <ikonia> baconbacon123: great,
[21:31] <baconbacon123> huh?
[21:31] <ikonia> baconbacon123: anything else you need from the operator team ?
[21:32] <baconbacon123> no thank u for your help :)
[21:32] <ikonia> baconbacon123: no problem, as you don't need anything else we ask that you leave this channel