| dpm | hey translators, how's everyone doing? | 11:50 |
|---|---|---|
| kelemengabor | dpm: busy... they keep bombing me with questions and translations to approve :( | 11:59 |
| kelemengabor | dpm: there is something strange here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+templates | 12:05 |
| kelemengabor | the kde modules were all uploaded last year | 12:05 |
| kelemengabor | but kde 4.8 was released and packaged this year... looks like the translations were not uploaded at all. | 12:06 |
| kelemengabor | do you know anything about this? | 12:06 |
| jokerdino | hey dpm | 12:13 |
| jokerdino | guys, how many strings are there in precise that should be translated? | 12:13 |
| jokerdino | i made a quick math and it comes to about 46660 strings, but i am pretty sure it is far more than that. | 12:14 |
| artnay | kelemengabor: yeah, many KDE packages/templates seem to be missing from LP (versus kde l10n svn) | 12:16 |
| artnay | kelemengabor: did you file a bug? | 12:26 |
| kelemengabor | not yet | 12:26 |
| kelemengabor | I'm busy with the GJ :\ | 12:27 |
| kelemengabor | could you help me out with that? | 12:27 |
| dpm | jokerdino, it depends on the languages | 12:31 |
| dpm | jokerdino, for which language? | 12:31 |
| jokerdino | Tamil. | 12:31 |
| jokerdino | Not the number of strings that are remaining, but the total number of strings | 12:32 |
| artnay | kelemengabor: sure | 12:34 |
| kelemengabor | artnay: thanks! | 12:34 |
| m4n1sh | kelemengabor: hey. Thanks for the patch | 12:35 |
| kelemengabor | you are welcome :) | 12:35 |
| m4n1sh | I have sent a mail to the list | 12:35 |
| m4n1sh | if anyone can approve it | 12:35 |
| m4n1sh | need to put it in UIFE | 12:35 |
| m4n1sh | as per the requirement | 12:35 |
| m4n1sh | kelemengabor: you have access to the list? | 12:36 |
| kelemengabor | I don't think so. but dpm probably has | 12:37 |
| dpm | m4n1sh, lte me approve it now | 12:39 |
| m4n1sh | dpm: thanks. I know you lead this team, but you know who leads -doc? | 12:39 |
| artnay | kelemengabor: bug 945560 | 12:39 |
| artnay | umh, okay... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/945560 | 12:40 |
| TLE | hey dpm. Everything go ok yesterday, getting the new stats page back up | 12:40 |
| kelemengabor | artnay: thanks. now I have to figure out whom to assign it :) | 12:41 |
| jokerdino | launchpad bug 945560 | 12:41 |
| jokerdino | amithkk: your bot is MIA? | 12:41 |
| amithkk | He's not here | 12:42 |
| jokerdino | there he is | 12:42 |
| amithkk | Ha! | 12:43 |
| amithkk | He hasnt had a crash since till now | 12:43 |
| jokerdino | that sucks | 12:43 |
| amithkk | It didnt crash yet | 12:43 |
| amithkk | Still on record | 12:43 |
| amithkk | @list admin | 12:43 |
| twobottux` | amithkk: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part | 12:43 |
| amithkk | @list | 12:44 |
| twobottux` | amithkk: Admin, Alias, BadWords, Bugtracker, Channel, Config, Encyclopedia, IRCLogin, Misc, Owner, and User | 12:44 |
| m4n1sh | dpm: thanks | 12:44 |
| amithkk | @list Owner | 12:44 |
| twobottux` | amithkk: announce, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, disable, enable, flush, ircquote, load, log, quit, reload, rename, unload, unrename, and upkeep | 12:44 |
| jokerdino | amithkk: don't spam.. | 12:44 |
| amithkk | k | 12:44 |
| jokerdino | i see both amithkk and m4n1sh here. | 12:45 |
| jokerdino | now is the best time to discuss Indian English locale | 12:45 |
| m4n1sh | go ahead | 12:45 |
| jokerdino | so, is it logical to have one? | 12:45 |
| m4n1sh | there is one\ | 12:45 |
| jokerdino | i personally feel it is different enough to have one. | 12:45 |
| m4n1sh | en_IN | 12:45 |
| jokerdino | oh? | 12:46 |
| amithkk | Its not very different though | 12:46 |
| amithkk | And we have one as m4n1sh says | 12:46 |
| m4n1sh | not much | 12:46 |
| m4n1sh | jokerdino: but you can use the indianized english if you want | 12:46 |
| TLE | dpm: ah gotta go again, I'm on family visit during the weekend, so if you need me for anything for the jam, contact me on email | 12:46 |
| jokerdino | ah, let me find it | 12:47 |
| m4n1sh | amithkk: do yo know any reference guide to en_IN ? | 12:47 |
| amithkk | nope | 12:47 |
| m4n1sh | jokerdino: remember if you are going with en_IN, it is more similar to en_GB than en_US | 12:48 |
| m4n1sh | en_GB or en_UK whatever you call, not much of a i18n geek | 12:48 |
| jokerdino | UK it is | 12:48 |
| m4n1sh | I didn't even know how to i18nize xml files until Kelemen submitted the patch | 12:48 |
| kelemengabor | no, GB: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+lang/en_GB | 12:49 |
| jokerdino | ah, thanks | 12:49 |
| jokerdino | i am going to proceed and set up a team for en_IN | 12:50 |
| m4n1sh | dammit. en_IN is fully untranslated | 12:50 |
| m4n1sh | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+lang/en_IN | 12:50 |
| jokerdino | i saw that :/ | 12:50 |
| jokerdino | we need a team to do anything | 12:50 |
| m4n1sh | jokerdino: which all langs you know? | 12:50 |
| jokerdino | i know Tamil. and well yeah | 12:51 |
| amithkk | Ill contact em | 12:51 |
| * jokerdino is living in Singapore. | 12:51 | |
| m4n1sh | like indian words are more similar to UK | 12:51 |
| jokerdino | what about you m4n1sh ? any lang? | 12:51 |
| m4n1sh | english and hindi | 12:51 |
| jokerdino | no kannada? :/ | 12:52 |
| m4n1sh | nope | 12:52 |
| m4n1sh | in India it is Colour and not color | 12:52 |
| m4n1sh | you can use preponed as an opposite of postpone in India | 12:52 |
| jokerdino | we should first have a en_IN guide. | 12:52 |
| amithkk | Whats the ISO 639 language code for en-IN? | 12:52 |
| m4n1sh | it isnt found in any other dictionary | 12:52 |
| dpm | TLE, yeah, it worked :) I'm about to take another timestamp, but I'm quite busy talking to people and can't find a minute to do it properly | 12:53 |
| jokerdino | dpm: TLE left | 12:53 |
| amithkk | later | 12:53 |
| amithkk | cya :D | 12:53 |
| amithkk | stay here 2bottu :D | 12:53 |
| jokerdino | LOL | 12:53 |
| jokerdino | m4n1sh: i am serious about en_IN. | 12:53 |
| m4n1sh | jokerdino: I know | 12:54 |
| m4n1sh | you need to get in contact with indian translation team | 12:54 |
| jokerdino | should i email them? | 12:54 |
| m4n1sh | ask them | 12:55 |
| jokerdino | wait, there is a Indian translation team? | 12:55 |
| m4n1sh | there should be | 12:55 |
| m4n1sh | there is if i last remember | 12:55 |
| jokerdino | there is for different languages, but none for Indian English | 12:55 |
| m4n1sh | jokerdino: this should help a bit http://lh.2xlibre.net/locale/en_IN/ | 12:55 |
| jokerdino | cook thanks. | 12:56 |
| jokerdino | *cool | 12:56 |
| jokerdino | there is no Indian English translation team | 12:56 |
| m4n1sh | jokerdino: look at this too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_English#Vocabulary_and_colloquialisms | 12:56 |
| jokerdino | we should be pinging dpm already. | 12:56 |
| m4n1sh | there isnt Indian "English" translation team | 12:57 |
| amithkk | yep | 12:57 |
| m4n1sh | but Indian translation team | 12:57 |
| amithkk | Im ready to translate | 12:57 |
| m4n1sh | I dont think words like "bunk a class" and "prepone" or "under scanner" or "clean-chit" are used anywhere else in the world | 12:57 |
| amithkk | Holidays ahead | 12:57 |
| m4n1sh | amithkk: esp use words like lakhs, crores too | 12:58 |
| m4n1sh | very common in India | 12:58 |
| jokerdino | oh yeah. | 12:58 |
| dpm | jokerdino, you can calculate the total from http://91.189.93.77/stats/precise/ta | 12:58 |
| dpm | just do the maths from the percentage translated and the untranslated count | 12:58 |
| dpm | anyway, going for lunch now... | 12:58 |
| * dpm lunches | 12:59 | |
| m4n1sh | jokerdino: amithkk "Allopathy", "Jaundice" and "curd" is more of Indian English | 12:59 |
| jokerdino | i can't find the Indian language team | 12:59 |
| * jokerdino loathes | 12:59 | |
| m4n1sh | never heard about "non-veg" being used to refer to meat in other parts of the world | 12:59 |
| m4n1sh | jokerdino: "SMS" means mobile text message | 12:59 |
| m4n1sh | lots of scope for en_IN | 13:00 |
| jokerdino | open a gdoc and put these there? | 13:00 |
| m4n1sh | nope | 13:00 |
| m4n1sh | ubuntu wiki | 13:00 |
| jokerdino | for the time being. heh | 13:00 |
| m4n1sh | jokerdino: indian english is called hinglish | 13:01 |
| m4n1sh | as it is a lot lot lot influenced by hindi | 13:01 |
| jokerdino | true that | 13:01 |
| m4n1sh | jokerdino: keep bookmarking http://www.theindiansabroad.com/2011/04/hinglish-indian-english-idioms-or-and-phrases-ii/ | 13:02 |
| jokerdino | amithkk: you found the ISO code for en_IN? | 13:03 |
| amithkk | cya | 13:04 |
| m4n1sh | is that necessary for going ahead? | 13:04 |
| jokerdino | i guess so. | 13:04 |
| jokerdino | there are procedures for starting a new team | 13:04 |
| jokerdino | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/StartingTeam | 13:05 |
| jokerdino | m4n1sh: i think the ISO code is same as English. | 13:09 |
| m4n1sh | yes | 13:09 |
| m4n1sh | but it should also add something after en_GB.utf-8 or something like that | 13:10 |
| jokerdino | heh the australians don't have those | 13:10 |
| m4n1sh | jokerdino: so two locales can have same ISO code? | 13:10 |
| jokerdino | where is dpm when we need him most :S | 13:11 |
| jokerdino | my google fu is failing | 13:12 |
| jokerdino | http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php | 13:15 |
| jokerdino | there is only one English | 13:15 |
| jokerdino | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng sholud be useful | 13:16 |
| m4n1sh | yeah | 13:16 |
| jokerdino | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-en-gb for en_GB. | 13:17 |
| jokerdino | so ours should be en_IN | 13:17 |
| jokerdino | shall i proceed to start a team then? | 13:19 |
| jokerdino | my hands are itching | 13:22 |
| m4n1sh | jokerdino: lol | 13:30 |
| m4n1sh | consult a few people first | 13:30 |
| jokerdino | yeah haha, haven't started yet | 13:31 |
| dpm | jokerdino, lunching, what's up? | 15:05 |
| jokerdino | you still lunching huh? | 15:05 |
| jokerdino | we were discussing the idea of starting Indian English locale team. | 15:05 |
| jokerdino | viable and acceptable? | 15:05 |
| jokerdino | and i have done the math for the translation strings. total strings = 47k++ | 15:07 |
| dpm | jokerdino, weren't you thinking of helping in another team first? I think contributing to Tamil might be more useful, as it seems they might need a push to reinvigorate the team. | 16:26 |
| dpm | You can of course start the en_IN team, but I think you can create more of an impact and help more users by contributing to the Tamil one | 16:27 |
| m4n1sh | jokerdino: AFAIK Tamil team is pretty active | 17:02 |
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