[11:50] <dpm> hey translators, how's everyone doing?
[11:59] <kelemengabor> dpm: busy... they keep bombing me with questions and translations to approve :(
[12:05] <kelemengabor> dpm: there is something strange here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+templates
[12:05] <kelemengabor> the kde modules were all uploaded last year
[12:06] <kelemengabor> but kde 4.8 was released and packaged this year... looks like the translations were not uploaded at all.
[12:06] <kelemengabor> do you know anything about this?
[12:13] <jokerdino> hey dpm
[12:13] <jokerdino> guys, how many strings are there in precise that should be translated?
[12:14] <jokerdino> i made a quick math and it comes to about 46660 strings, but i am pretty sure it is far more than that.
[12:16] <artnay> kelemengabor: yeah, many KDE packages/templates seem to be missing from LP (versus kde l10n svn)
[12:26] <artnay> kelemengabor: did you file a bug?
[12:26] <kelemengabor> not yet
[12:27] <kelemengabor> I'm busy with the GJ :\
[12:27] <kelemengabor> could you help me out with that?
[12:31] <dpm> jokerdino, it depends on the languages
[12:31] <dpm> jokerdino, for which language?
[12:31] <jokerdino> Tamil.
[12:32] <jokerdino> Not the number of strings that are remaining, but the total number of strings
[12:34] <artnay> kelemengabor: sure
[12:34] <kelemengabor> artnay: thanks!
[12:35] <m4n1sh> kelemengabor: hey. Thanks for the patch
[12:35] <kelemengabor> you are welcome :)
[12:35] <m4n1sh> I have sent a mail to the list
[12:35] <m4n1sh> if anyone can approve it
[12:35] <m4n1sh> need to put it in UIFE
[12:35] <m4n1sh> as per the requirement
[12:36] <m4n1sh> kelemengabor: you have access to the list?
[12:37] <kelemengabor> I don't think so. but dpm probably has
[12:39] <dpm> m4n1sh, lte me approve it now
[12:39] <m4n1sh> dpm: thanks. I know you lead this team, but you know who leads -doc?
[12:39] <artnay> kelemengabor: bug 945560
[12:40] <artnay> umh, okay... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/945560
[12:40] <TLE> hey dpm. Everything go ok yesterday, getting the new stats page back up
[12:41] <kelemengabor> artnay: thanks. now I have to figure out whom to assign it :)
[12:41] <jokerdino> launchpad bug 945560
[12:41] <jokerdino> amithkk: your bot is MIA?
[12:42] <amithkk> He's not here
[12:42] <jokerdino> there he is
[12:43] <amithkk> Ha!
[12:43] <amithkk> He hasnt had a crash since till now
[12:43] <jokerdino> that sucks
[12:43] <amithkk> It didnt crash yet
[12:43] <amithkk> Still on record
[12:43] <amithkk> @list admin
[12:43] <twobottux`> amithkk: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
[12:44] <amithkk> @list
[12:44] <twobottux`> amithkk: Admin, Alias, BadWords, Bugtracker, Channel, Config, Encyclopedia, IRCLogin, Misc, Owner, and User
[12:44] <m4n1sh> dpm: thanks
[12:44] <amithkk> @list Owner
[12:44] <twobottux`> amithkk: announce, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, disable, enable, flush, ircquote, load, log, quit, reload, rename, unload, unrename, and upkeep
[12:44] <jokerdino> amithkk: don't spam..
[12:44] <amithkk> k
[12:45] <jokerdino> i see both amithkk and m4n1sh here.
[12:45] <jokerdino> now is the best time to discuss Indian English locale
[12:45] <m4n1sh> go ahead
[12:45] <jokerdino> so, is it logical to have one?
[12:45] <m4n1sh> there is one\
[12:45] <jokerdino> i personally feel it is different enough to have one.
[12:45] <m4n1sh> en_IN
[12:46] <jokerdino> oh?
[12:46] <amithkk> Its not very different though
[12:46] <amithkk> And we have one as m4n1sh says
[12:46] <m4n1sh> not much
[12:46] <m4n1sh> jokerdino: but you can use the indianized english if you want
[12:46] <TLE> dpm: ah gotta go again, I'm on family visit during the weekend, so if you need me for anything for the jam, contact me on email
[12:47] <jokerdino> ah, let me find it
[12:47] <m4n1sh> amithkk: do yo know any reference guide to en_IN ?
[12:47] <amithkk> nope
[12:48] <m4n1sh> jokerdino: remember if you are going with en_IN, it is more similar to en_GB than en_US
[12:48] <m4n1sh> en_GB or en_UK whatever you call, not much of a i18n geek
[12:48] <jokerdino> UK it is
[12:48] <m4n1sh> I didn't even know how to i18nize xml files until Kelemen submitted the patch
[12:49] <kelemengabor> no, GB: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+lang/en_GB
[12:49] <jokerdino> ah, thanks
[12:50] <jokerdino> i am going to proceed and set up a team for en_IN
[12:50] <m4n1sh> dammit. en_IN is fully untranslated
[12:50] <m4n1sh> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+lang/en_IN
[12:50] <jokerdino> i saw that :/
[12:50] <jokerdino> we need a team to do anything
[12:50] <m4n1sh> jokerdino: which all langs you know?
[12:51] <jokerdino> i know Tamil. and well yeah
[12:51] <amithkk> Ill contact em
[12:51]  * jokerdino is living in Singapore.
[12:51] <m4n1sh> like indian words are more similar to UK
[12:51] <jokerdino> what about you m4n1sh ? any lang?
[12:51] <m4n1sh> english and hindi
[12:52] <jokerdino> no kannada? :/
[12:52] <m4n1sh> nope
[12:52] <m4n1sh> in India it is Colour and not color
[12:52] <m4n1sh> you can use preponed as an opposite of postpone in India
[12:52] <jokerdino> we should first have a en_IN guide.
[12:52] <amithkk> Whats the ISO 639 language code for en-IN?
[12:52] <m4n1sh> it isnt found in any other dictionary
[12:53] <dpm> TLE, yeah, it worked :) I'm about to take another timestamp, but I'm quite busy talking to people and can't find a minute to do it properly
[12:53] <jokerdino> dpm: TLE left
[12:53] <amithkk> later
[12:53] <amithkk> cya :D
[12:53] <amithkk> stay here 2bottu :D
[12:53] <jokerdino> LOL
[12:53] <jokerdino> m4n1sh: i am serious about en_IN.
[12:54] <m4n1sh> jokerdino: I know
[12:54] <m4n1sh> you need to get in contact with indian translation team
[12:54] <jokerdino> should i email them?
[12:55] <m4n1sh> ask them
[12:55] <jokerdino> wait, there is a Indian translation team?
[12:55] <m4n1sh> there should be
[12:55] <m4n1sh> there is if i last remember
[12:55] <jokerdino> there is for different languages, but none for Indian English
[12:55] <m4n1sh> jokerdino: this should help a bit http://lh.2xlibre.net/locale/en_IN/
[12:56] <jokerdino> cook thanks.
[12:56] <jokerdino> *cool
[12:56] <jokerdino> there is no Indian English translation team
[12:56] <m4n1sh> jokerdino: look at this too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_English#Vocabulary_and_colloquialisms
[12:56] <jokerdino> we should be pinging dpm already.
[12:57] <m4n1sh> there isnt Indian "English" translation team
[12:57] <amithkk> yep
[12:57] <m4n1sh> but Indian translation team
[12:57] <amithkk> Im ready to translate
[12:57] <m4n1sh> I dont think words like "bunk a class" and "prepone" or "under scanner" or "clean-chit" are used anywhere else in the world
[12:57] <amithkk> Holidays ahead
[12:58] <m4n1sh> amithkk: esp use words like lakhs, crores too
[12:58] <m4n1sh> very common in India
[12:58] <jokerdino> oh yeah.
[12:58] <dpm> jokerdino, you can calculate the total from http://91.189.93.77/stats/precise/ta
[12:58] <dpm> just do the maths from the percentage translated and the untranslated count
[12:58] <dpm> anyway, going for lunch now...
[12:59]  * dpm lunches
[12:59] <m4n1sh> jokerdino: amithkk "Allopathy", "Jaundice" and "curd" is more of Indian English
[12:59] <jokerdino> i can't find the Indian language team
[12:59]  * jokerdino loathes
[12:59] <m4n1sh> never heard about "non-veg" being used to refer to meat in other parts of the world
[12:59] <m4n1sh> jokerdino: "SMS" means mobile text message
[13:00] <m4n1sh> lots of scope for en_IN
[13:00] <jokerdino> open a gdoc and put these there?
[13:00] <m4n1sh> nope
[13:00] <m4n1sh> ubuntu wiki
[13:00] <jokerdino> for the time being. heh
[13:01] <m4n1sh> jokerdino: indian english is called hinglish
[13:01] <m4n1sh> as it is a lot lot lot influenced by hindi
[13:01] <jokerdino> true that
[13:02] <m4n1sh> jokerdino: keep bookmarking http://www.theindiansabroad.com/2011/04/hinglish-indian-english-idioms-or-and-phrases-ii/
[13:03] <jokerdino> amithkk: you found the ISO code for en_IN?
[13:04] <amithkk> cya
[13:04] <m4n1sh> is that necessary for going ahead?
[13:04] <jokerdino> i guess so.
[13:04] <jokerdino> there are procedures for starting a new team
[13:05] <jokerdino> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/StartingTeam
[13:09] <jokerdino> m4n1sh: i think the ISO code is same as English.
[13:09] <m4n1sh> yes
[13:10] <m4n1sh> but it should also add something after en_GB.utf-8 or something like that
[13:10] <jokerdino> heh the australians don't have those
[13:10] <m4n1sh> jokerdino: so two locales can have same ISO code?
[13:11] <jokerdino> where is dpm when we need him most :S
[13:12] <jokerdino> my google fu is failing
[13:15] <jokerdino> http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php
[13:15] <jokerdino> there is only one English
[13:16] <jokerdino> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-eng sholud be useful
[13:16] <m4n1sh> yeah
[13:17] <jokerdino> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-en-gb for en_GB.
[13:17] <jokerdino> so ours should be en_IN
[13:19] <jokerdino> shall i proceed to start a team then?
[13:22] <jokerdino> my hands are itching
[13:30] <m4n1sh> jokerdino: lol
[13:30] <m4n1sh> consult a few people first
[13:31] <jokerdino> yeah haha, haven't started yet
[15:05] <dpm> jokerdino, lunching, what's up?
[15:05] <jokerdino> you still lunching huh?
[15:05] <jokerdino> we were discussing the idea of starting Indian English locale team.
[15:05] <jokerdino> viable and acceptable?
[15:07] <jokerdino> and i have done the math for the translation strings. total strings = 47k++
[16:26] <dpm> jokerdino, weren't you thinking of helping in another team first? I think contributing to Tamil might be more useful, as it seems they might need a push to reinvigorate the team.
[16:27] <dpm> You can of course start the en_IN team, but I think you can create more of an impact and help more users by contributing to the Tamil one
[17:02] <m4n1sh> jokerdino: AFAIK Tamil team is pretty active