[00:00] <wejq> my nautilus is making my eyes bleeding - the ubuntu,smooth,preety look just disappeared, it doesnt load with system
[00:00] <wejq> all things are rectangle
[00:01] <wejq> http://minus.com/mbeCsI5L0F#
[00:01] <Fyodorovna> wejq, what did you change?
[00:02] <wejq> nothing but grub, that doesnt matter
[00:02] <Fyodorovna> compiz.theme...etc wejq
[00:02] <wejq> i changed some OS'es names
[00:02] <wejq> nothing but this
[00:02] <wejq> it suddenly stopped working
[00:02] <ablyss> wejq, create a new user should fix that
[00:02] <Fyodorovna> wejq, can you be exacting?
[00:03] <karya> hii
[00:04] <Fyodorovna> !pm | karya, I don't PM in general
[00:05] <wejq> ok, from the beginning. All my life was stable, but suddenly i decided to reinstall my windows. In unwanted effect i had 130GB of free space because of broken partition table. I repaired it using TestDisk, and my system worked, i had to reinstall and reconfigure grub
[00:05] <wejq> it was about 2-3 days ago
[00:06] <wejq> and today i discovered that ocassionaly nautilus view is like this
[00:06] <ablyss> wejq, corrupt compiz setting
[00:06] <wejq> wut do
[00:06] <ablyss> i had to make a new user
[00:07] <wejq> log on it then ?
[00:09] <ablyss> then that's it
[00:09] <ablyss> make new user admin user
[00:09] <yusuf> connect #zurna
[00:09] <ablyss> copy important stuff over and / or user ubuntu one
[00:10] <ablyss> use* ubuntu one
[00:11] <ablyss> not sure if ubuntu backup backs up all hidden user files, namely compiz settings but it probably wouldn't be good to restore them
[00:13]  * ablyss oops talking to nobody
[00:18] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, you can save your compiz set up and use it in other setups and the original.
[00:18] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, if the compiz is corrupt you think that would still work?
[00:19] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, not a corrupted set up, one that works.
[00:19] <ablyss> i quit messing with compiz it corrupts to easily
[00:19] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, you can save what you want is the point.
[00:20] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, what about ubuntu backup.. does it backup compiz settings for you?
[00:21] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, granted yes, but there are ways of dealing with it a restart of it fixes many things, depends on what you have done. There are lots of tutorials online for the cube etc.
[00:21] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, yes I have restarted compiz many a times
[00:21] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, most likely I use grsync it backs up with rsync, easily accessible.
[00:22] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, look at the tutorials as far as what can be done.
[00:22] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, i see.  I just use the default settings.  To much time wasted for me to try to fix it.
[00:23] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, compiz is not really in sync with just any change for unity or probably anydesktop.
[00:23] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, so far the default settings have not crashed
[00:23] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, cool.
[00:23] <_k4> Unity sucks
[00:24] <Fyodorovna> !cookie | _k4
[00:24] <_k4> Can't help it.
[00:24] <Fyodorovna> lol there is medication for that now _k4 :)
[00:24] <_k4> I used to sing the praises of Ubutu
[00:24] <n0wje> I have gotten used to unity and it seems fine! not for everyone though.
[00:24] <_k4> Ubuntu
[00:24] <RoadRat> How do i make output from lsmod come only one window a time if i humbly could ask?
[00:25] <indio> humungulous, Fyodorovna: Thanks.
[00:25] <CFHowlett> RoadRat   lsmod|more
[00:25] <ablyss> RoadRat, what do you mean one window a time?
[00:25] <RoadRat> thanx
[00:25] <_k4> It was my distro for everyone but now it's on the list of has beens.
[00:25] <Fyodorovna> indio, no problem.
[00:25] <Chipzzz> _k4: install cairo-dock & you'll like unity much better
[00:26] <ablyss> docky is nice too
[00:26] <Chipzzz> _k4: ...or what ablyss said
[00:26] <_k4> I can't figure out how to run anything other that the poorly selected apps that are in the crappy icon list.
[00:27] <airtonix> oh ok
[00:27] <_k4> No obvious way of getting a menu
[00:27] <RoadRat> And how can i search for if a module is loaded
[00:27] <airtonix> _k4: you mean apart from hitting the.... menuuuu button?
[00:27] <Fyodorovna> _k4, dash?
[00:27] <ablyss> RoadRat, #python channel perhaps?
[00:27] <_k4> There is no menu button that I can find.
[00:27] <Chipzzz> _k4: f2 and type the beginning of the command
[00:28] <_k4> Just a bunch of icons on the left side of the window that don't necessarily do everything I want to do.
[00:28] <airtonix> Chipzzz: that's not actually the equiv of pressing the super key
[00:28] <Chipzzz> _k4: sorry... alt-f2
[00:28] <_k4> OK
[00:28] <Fyodorovna> _k4, you might try synapse, key prompt to bring up a search gui.
[00:28] <ablyss> super key works great
[00:29] <ablyss> my only beef with unity is it does not do real-time queries.
[00:29] <Chipzzz> _k4: you'd still like cairo-deck or docky better, though
[00:30] <Chipzzz> (cairo-dock, sorry)
[00:30] <airtonix> Chipzzz: maybe, but that's up to _k4 to decide
[00:30] <Chipzzz> of course
[00:30] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, you mean open apps by realtime queries?
[00:30] <adahlin> I'm trying to re-compile a specific kernel module with ubuntu (10.04). i did apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r), then ran make modules, but the resulting .ko won't load with a "Invalid module format"... thoughts?
[00:30] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, yes.
[00:31] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, and find files
[00:31] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, the left panel shows little dots next to the app open one for each one open I forget which mose key brings them up.
[00:31] <Fyodorovna> mouse*
[00:32] <spiff_> Any easy way to view update change notes in a shell? using apt-get or so...
[00:32] <Fyodorovna> middle click opens a new one ablyss
[00:32] <_k4> Thanks for the suggestions.  I'll check them out.
[00:32] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, hmmm, i dont see any dots
[00:33] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, i press the super key first right?
[00:33] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, to the left of the app if I remember I stopped using unity about two weeks ago.
[00:33] <ablyss> oh..
[00:34] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, it has queries for some it is just figuring it out, we need a god link to all that unity stuff.
[00:34] <Fyodorovna> good*
[00:35] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, well it has recent documents, downloads and folders.. but not real time quires
[00:36] <ablyss> i don't think the system as a whole is setup for it
[00:36] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, alt-tab will show you everthing, with drop downs of multiples of the same.
[00:37] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, alt-tab? That's the window switcher
[00:37] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, iright it is unuty right. :)
[00:38] <Fyodorovna> right*
[00:38] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, say you wanted to find all files starting with XYZ the super key type *XYZ*
[00:38] <ablyss> it just isn't possible
[00:38] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, use the mouse cursor for the drop downs.
[00:38] <ablyss> i have to crank up the terminal and use find
[00:38] <blackmatrix_ny> when will ubuntu change this new user interface ?
[00:39] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, you would do that in the terminal I think
[00:39] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, yup
[00:39] <cordyceps> can someone help me with the audacious player. When I tell it to play a CD a window opens that says 'searching cdda:// 0 files found' and then audacious closes.
[00:39] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, unity has nothing to do with that.
[00:39] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, but it should is my point ;-)
[00:39] <cordyceps> drm?
[00:40] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, gnome 2 doesn't your argument is specious. :)
[00:40] <cordyceps> mplayer plays the CD but very jerkily
[00:40] <ablyss> cordyceps, audio and video ?
[00:41] <cordyceps> audio only
[00:41] <ablyss> cordyceps, have you given vlc a shot?
[00:41] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, it shouls make your coffee and play hail to the chief when you boot but it doesn't lol.
[00:42] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, that's alright with me :)
[00:42] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, I stole it from another user but yeah why not. :)
[00:42] <ablyss> it's free and awesome OS
[00:45] <hiexpo> hola
[00:45] <Braden`> Hello
[00:45] <Guest87598> buenas noches
[00:46] <Fyodorovna> !es | Guest87598
[00:46] <Fyodorovna> hiexpo, ^^^
[00:47] <Braden`> For some reason, I am showing 'init' as taking up 40% of the processor.  Top outputs -> Cpu(s): 31.4%us, 68.6%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st.  What should I look for to diagnose this problem?
[00:47] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, actually this works fine... super key .. type search ... open search dialog and search *XYZ*
[00:48] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, thats the dash search am I right?
[00:49] <GordonFreeman> Hey guys, I just install ubuntu via wubi. When I try to boot into it, there is one flashing thing saying that there is no file for something...then the screen just blinks.
[00:49] <GordonFreeman> I am going to try and reinstall it
[00:49] <Fyodorovna> GordonFreeman, probably best idea you know how to remove it?
[00:49] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, gnome-search-tool
[00:50] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, you get the same with alt=f2 I think
[00:50] <GordonFreeman> Fyodorovna: yea, I just start the installation process over and it removes it automatically right?
[00:50] <Fyodorovna> alt-f2
[00:50] <Fyodorovna> GordonFreeman, I think yo have to remove it from the control remove apps gui
[00:50] <Fyodorovna> you*
[00:51] <GordonFreeman> ah
[00:51] <GordonFreeman> thank you
[00:51] <ablyss> Fyodorovna, alt-f2 brings "run command"  gnome-search-tool searches/queries $HOME contents
[00:51] <Fyodorovna> GordonFreeman, or there is s remove in the wubi folder as well.
[00:51] <Fyodorovna> a*
[00:51] <Fyodorovna> ablyss, ah.
[00:51] <GordonFreeman> Fyodorovan: yeah, I just removed it.
[00:52] <Fyodorovna> GordonFreeman, you might check the ISO or disc witha md5sum if this happens again.
[00:52] <GordonFreeman> k
[00:52] <GordonFreeman> thanks
[00:52] <Fyodorovna> !md5sum
[00:53] <GordonFreeman> Fyodorovan: wubi downloads the iso straight from the website
[00:53] <GordonFreeman> Is there a way I can force it to use an ubuntu install iso on the computer?
[00:53] <Fyodorovna> GordonFreeman, yeah actually all downloads of ubuntu have the wubi in it.
[00:53] <GordonFreeman> What do you mean, "wubi in it'
[00:54] <GordonFreeman> I thought wubi was just for win to install ubuntu as a directory in win without partitioning
[00:54] <YohanMeister> I'm just gonna take a wild shot here... does anyone happen to have a logitech k800 illuminated keyboard and were you able to get it working with linux?
[00:54] <Fyodorovna> GordonFreeman, you can download just the wubi installer and point it at a ISO, never have done it myself though just see this posted on occasion.
[00:55] <GordonFreeman> fyodorovna: I can point wubi to install an iso on my desktop? can you link me to instructions?
[00:56] <zykotic10> GordonFreeman: wubi installs inside windows
[00:56] <GordonFreeman> right
[00:56] <GordonFreeman> without partitioning right?
[00:56] <zykotic10> correct - it's not a real install
[00:56] <GordonFreeman> good
[00:56] <GordonFreeman> I am going to be using this under a truecrypt hidden os
[00:57] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide GordonFreeman heres the guide
[00:57] <Fyodorovna> GordonFreeman, not really but here is the wubi wiki, I think that that info is on it. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[00:57] <GordonFreeman> bazhang: thanks
[00:57] <GordonFreeman> fyodorovna: thanks
[00:58] <Fyodorovna> GordonFreeman, I missed you had gotten it.
[01:00] <topper4125> Does anyone know if the KDE Desktop works well with the Acer Aspire-One netbook
[01:01] <bazhang> topper4125, try a livecd
[01:05] <Merarys> topper4125 : ubuntu 10.4.3 lts does
[01:05] <Merarys> netbook does not have a cdrom
[01:06] <_k4> USB stick.
[01:06] <_k4> F12
[01:07] <Merarys> at least i think so,do it via usb here is the page for the USB installation http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[01:07] <Fyodorovna> topper4125, should I bumped my ram to 2 gigs though 1 gig for ubuntu is advised.
[01:07] <Fyodorovna> at the least for a fast running OS
[01:08] <topper4125> I'm running ubunto 11.10 with XFCE with 1 Gig Ram, runs pretty fast, haven't had any problems yet
[01:08] <topper4125> Unity works well with it (but I'm not a fan of Unity)
[01:09] <Fyodorovna> topper4125, yeah depends on what you have open. :)
[01:10] <topper4125> *That* is very true... I tend to run very few programs simultaneously
[01:10] <Fyodorovna> me to
[01:11] <Merarys> depends on what you do also,,thats a netbook for me a JoliceClowd will work exellent on that aspire one netbook
[01:12] <aicasn> hey all. why does ubuntu install both icedtea and openjdk by default? aren't they both jdk implementations?
[01:12] <_k4> I run mint 12 on my netbook/
[01:14] <topper4125> @aicasn... I don't know why... but if I don't have OpenJDK installed, I can't run .jar files locally with icedtea.
[01:14] <_k4> Other than being a bit picky about wireless connections, I find no faults.  I suspect if I load up wicd that will correct the wireless problems
[01:14] <itaylor57> aicasn, icedtea is the web java plugin, openjdk is the developmenty package
[01:14] <Braden`> http://pastebin.com/XQYSFvWW <-- Can anyone tell me why I have abnormally high processor usage?  That is a complete list of all processes
[01:14] <aicasn> itaylor57: so without icedtea, firefox/chrome/etc won't be able to use embedded java applets?
[01:14] <thomedy> im on the unetbootin page for making my flash drive bootable... and when i download the linux version which i run linux already im just moving back to an lts version instead of 11.1
[01:15] <_k4> Braden`: run htop
[01:15] <itaylor57> aicasn, yes
[01:15] <thomedy> it keeps saying im getting a exe
[01:15] <thomedy> but im not
[01:15] <topper4125> I was thinking about mint for the netbook... but went with the setup I have no instead...
[01:15] <thomedy> and when i chmod +x it does nothing
[01:15] <aicasn> itaylor57: ok. ty for the clarification
[01:16] <itaylor57> aicasn, openjdk or openjre lets you run java applications locally on your system
[01:16] <ki7mt> topper4125, I had a small HP Netbook, have ran both Xubuntu and Lubuntu on it, ran nicely. Gnome or KDE was, in my case too much for it.
[01:16] <asnt> Hi! Can anyone help me with a jittery/laggy mouse pointer?
[01:17] <Fyodorovna> thomedy, unetbootin should be bootable when loaded, what's going ion?
[01:17] <thomedy> i agree but its not booting for me at all
[01:17] <Fyodorovna> asnt, have you looked in mouse for adjustments?
[01:17] <thomedy> i download the link that says (for linux)
[01:17] <knewbie_> hi.. can someone help me with 12.04 beta1? it is not booting
[01:17] <thomedy> and then click  it in my gui
[01:18] <thomedy> but it says no app for running an exe
[01:18] <Fyodorovna> thomedy, you know the key prompt to bring up a boot from menu that is not in the bios try f12.
[01:18] <Braden`> _k4:  I would paste the results to pastebin, but I cannot highlight anything in htop
[01:18] <itaylor57> knewbie_, you need to ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:18] <topper4125> @ki7mt I was thinking the same thing... I might just stick with XFCE... if it ain't broke... don't fix it ;)
[01:18] <knewbie_> ok thx
[01:18] <Fyodorovna> thomedy, when does it sya this?
[01:18] <thomedy> shouldn't i have to make my unetbootin run first
[01:18] <Fyodorovna> say*
[01:18] <thomedy> so that it builds my flash
[01:18] <asnt> Fyodorovna: No I haven't actually. Good thinking (d'oh). Just a minute…
[01:19] <Fyodorovna> thomedy, what have you done so far?
[01:19] <thomedy> i have done this multiple times in my life and because its so infrequently i always forget something
[01:19] <thomedy> i downloaded the iso and the unetbootin thats all
[01:19] <thomedy> i was about to build my flash with runing unetbootin
[01:19] <thomedy> so that it would make my flash bootable
[01:19] <thomedy> thats when i ran into this problem
[01:20] <Fyodorovna> thomedy, for the thimb to a fat, and load the ISO.
[01:20] <ki7mt> topper4125, Yep I like Xubuntu and Lubuntu, either one works well on Netbooks IMHO.
[01:20] <Fyodorovna> s/format/thumb
[01:20] <asnt> Fyodorovna: No luck. (I didn't look there before because I haven't changed anything in the mouse settings in a long time, and the problem only started maybe 2 days ago)
[01:21] <Fyodorovna> asnt, is it jittery when just sitting still?
[01:21] <thomedy> im sorry i dont understand at all waht you just said im sorry again
[01:21] <Braden`> http://pastebin.com/XQYSFvWW <-- Can anyone tell me why I have abnormally high processor usage?  That is a complete list of all processes
[01:21] <asnt> Fyodorovna: No, it's just slow/inaccurate/hitchy when I try to move it (it doesn't always go where I expect it to)
[01:21] <Fyodorovna> thomedy, form the thumb to a fat 32 partition, then use unetbootin to load the ISO to it.
[01:22] <Fyodorovna> format*
[01:22] <Fyodorovna> asnt, not sure then really.
[01:22] <thomedy> thank you
[01:22] <_k4> Braden`: Why
[01:23] <asnt> Fyodorovna: Ok, well thanks anyway!
[01:23] <Fyodorovna> asnt, have you cleaned the roller that the mouse rolls on?
[01:23] <Braden`> _k4:  htop won't allow me to highlight
[01:24] <Braden`> It is some kind of ncurses interface that allows you to click on things with the mouse
[01:24] <thomedy> okay i dont know how i got to an msdos format thank you hopefully that fixes it i just have to figure out how to do that in linux now
[01:24] <_k4> Braden`: run top -n 1
[01:24] <asnt> Fyodorovna: I haven't actually. That's a good idea… I'll try an optical mouse for a couple minutes first to make sure it's not a software problem though.
[01:25] <Fyodorovna> thomedy, the disk utility or gparted works.
[01:25] <Chipzzz> Braden`: init is still running after 16 days?!?
[01:25] <Fyodorovna> asnt, my mouse a older ball type gets the ball junked up and the two flat roolers sometimes.
[01:25] <Fyodorovna> rollers*
[01:26] <asnt> Fyodorovna: Yes, mine does that too sometimes (I prefer ball mice over optical mice just because of the feel). I just tried an optical mouse though and it has the same problem. :-(
[01:26] <Fyodorovna> Braden`, f3 will let you search and f9 will allow you to kill in htop look at the instructions in the gui
[01:27] <Braden`> http://pastebin.com/Bc0K83Vb
[01:27] <Braden`> Thats the updated top
[01:27] <Braden`> output
[01:27] <Braden`> top -n 1
[01:29] <Chipzzz> Braden`: anything in the logs about what init is doing?
[01:29] <thomedy> i really like the style of 11.1 but need the lts of 10.4 when do we think that 12 lts will be fully tested and out of betta does anyone know
[01:29] <_k4> Is init running like that all the time?
[01:29] <_k4> It's taking too much time.
[01:29] <Fyodorovna> thomedy, 12.04=april 4th month
[01:29] <Chipzzz> _k4: the machine's been up 16 days... init has gone berzerk
[01:29] <bazhang> thomedy, in April. 12.04
[01:30] <siv0r> hi! I'm hoping someone could help me with the default music player for 11.1.  I've gone through everything I can think of to change the behavior when I launch music from nautilus, but it always defaults to banshee. trying to get it to run Audacious. Used 'open with' and changed default in system settings.
[01:30] <valdur55> Can anyone reproduce my bug: http://youtu.be/VC7wXPcqjhM ?
[01:30] <Braden`> Let me check the logs
[01:30] <Braden`> But yea, its running like that 24/7
[01:30] <_k4> Chipzzz: Braden` reboot.
[01:30] <thomedy> cool... not to far away... im pretty psyched about a new lts
[01:30]  * giowck O.o
[01:30] <smilcha> has anyone got problems with software cenre? I can`t connect, saying check your internet connection, rest of web is fine
[01:31] <Chipzzz> Braden`: init should have a total time < 1 second & be sleeping
[01:31] <siv0r> smilcha, working fine for me
[01:31] <cavibird> rhythmbox?
[01:31] <smilcha> hmm strange
[01:31] <Pecker> smilcha: does apt-get update work ok, or does synaptic work?
[01:31] <cavibird> mines workin fine too
[01:31] <smilcha> Pecker,  Updates are fine,
[01:32] <Braden`> Nothing is in the logs
[01:32] <Braden`> This is an OpenVZ container
[01:32] <Braden`> would that have anything to do with it?
[01:32] <Chipzzz> Braden`: have you rebooted?
[01:32] <Braden`> Chipzzz:  Same thing on reboo
[01:32] <Braden`> reboot
[01:32] <ubuntu> hej
[01:33] <siv0r> anybody have any luck modifying their default music player away from banshee? that is, from double clicking an mp3 in nautilus, launching into something other than banshee?
[01:33] <Chipzzz> you'll need to find out what init is doing... it's gone amok
[01:33] <Braden`> How would I figure that out?
[01:34] <dlentz> siv0r, right-click the mp3, select open with, choose your music player and make it the default
[01:35] <Pecker> agree with dlentz
[01:35] <Chipzzz> Braden`: that's a tough one...
[01:35] <dlentz> siv0r, nvm i see you tried that
[01:35] <Pecker> hmm weird..sfotware center is very weird
[01:35] <siv0r> dlentz, yeah, I've even tried 'forget association' on banshee
[01:35] <cavibird> I Just use apt-cache and apt-get
[01:36] <_k4> Braden`: ps -e
[01:36] <siv0r> dlentz, it seems pretty dead set on being the default, and I've no idea where the setting is residing to fix it by hand (only been using linux for a very short while)
[01:37] <Braden`> http://pastebin.com/Z40N9sXz <-- ps -e at the bottom
[01:37] <siv0r> I wonder if it's specific to nautilus, since that's where I'm opening the mp3s from
[01:37] <Sach> trying to convert .flv to .mpg with ffmpeg.  After the convert, I try to play the clip, but get the error: "GstMPEGAudioParse: No valid frames found before end of stream"
[01:38] <_k4> Braden`: You're running on a VPS?
[01:40] <Chipzzz> _k4: very observant... that explains it
[01:41] <thomedy> im sorry to be so needy i had to do a bit of googling to to get to where im at... my flash is fat 16 i was asked to format to fat 32 im doing that i installed gparted and when i select my flash as a device and go to format it is grayed out
[01:41] <thomedy> as in not an option
[01:41] <thomedy> and i selected the device
[01:42] <_k4> Chipzzz: and probably OpenVZ
[01:44] <ejcweb> I've got a folder full of (small) images and want to join them all together into a fast photo slideshow, rendered as a video. Each photo will probably show for 1 frame at most. What would you recommend to do this? Does a good tool exist? (The number of images is ~2000),
[01:44] <SaRSAeOL> ejcweb: iMovie does that pretty nicely
[01:44] <Chipzzz> oh yeah, i think he mentioned something about that earlier...
[01:44] <SaRSAeOL> ejcweb: sorry forgot this was the ubuntu irc
[01:46] <dfrkp> ejcweb: OpenShot is pretty good tool, but I'm unsure how easy it is to deal with that many files...
[01:47] <siv0r> I found a site that may have helped. in /etc/gnome there's defaults.list, which lists mime-types and the default application for each, which had this listed: audio/x-mp3=banshee.desktop
[01:50] <che_> che
[01:50] <`Korvin> hey, I installed ubuntu onto an external harddrive that was connected using esata, it screwed up my grub =O
[01:50] <`Korvin> I'm booted into a usb live disc
[01:50] <`Korvin> how can I fix it
[01:52] <siv0r> dlentz, woot! fixed it. No idea why that's not automated.
[01:53] <Braden`> _k4:  Yes, its OpenVZ
[01:53] <Braden`> I don't see why it would be 100% on a vps though
[01:54] <siv0r> dlentz, thanks for the help. solution is gedit /usr/share/applications/defaults.list and change audio-mpeg, mp3, etc. to the app of choice.
[01:54] <Chipzzz> Braden`: what is 100%?
[01:54] <`Korvin> 1/1
[01:55] <Chipzzz> Braden`: your init process is 40% but that is evidently your neighbors
[01:55] <rump> how can i add the backport repo and update to postfix 2.8 without updating every package
[01:55] <rump> i'm on lucid lts
[01:58] <_k4> Braden`: You're seeing the host usage, not hing you can do about that.
[01:58] <Fyodorovna> rump, technically this channel does not support installs out of the release.
[01:58] <thomedy> okay ... i changed my flash to fat 32 which is waht it shows in gparted
[01:58] <rump> Fyodorovna: i see, okay.
[01:58] <thomedy> and then i go to the gui and it says unetboot in is still an executable
[01:58] <Fyodorovna> rump, does not mena you wont get help on occasion, justa heads up. :)
[01:59] <Fyodorovna> mean*
[01:59] <thomedy> also it says in my gui that its filesystemtype is msdos
[01:59] <thomedy> please help fyodorovna thank you
[01:59] <Fyodorovna> thomedy, msdos underlies fat and ext type partitions.
[01:59] <trism> rump: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#Configuring_Backports_for_Manual_Install
[02:00] <thomedy> okay so im fat 32 then is that what you are saying
[02:00] <thomedy> i know gparted is saying that
[02:00] <Fyodorovna> thomedy, yeah.
[02:00] <thomedy> before it says fat16
[02:00] <thomedy> and now its fat 32
[02:00] <Fyodorovna> thats what you want fat32. thomedy
[02:00] <thomedy> question 2 it still says that my unetbootin is an executable
[02:00] <rump> trism++
[02:00] <rump> ty!
[02:00] <Fyodorovna> thomedy, where?
[02:00] <thomedy> when i run it i click it in the gui and it says cant run an executable
[02:01] <Fyodorovna> thomedy, what gui?
[02:01] <thomedy> just the normal screen
[02:01] <thomedy> the graphic user interface
[02:02] <thomedy> also now that i reformated the flash i cant seem to move stuff to it in the command line
[02:02] <Fyodorovna> thomedy, to be honest your overthinking this load it and boot it.
[02:02] <thomedy> i dont have to run it before i run it.
[02:03] <mcurran> Is there a way to make an exact copy of your whole partition in ubuntu?  I was thinking of using dd or make an iso somehow, but just wanted to know if anybody knew?
[02:03] <Fyodorovna> thomedy, you want a thumb you can boot a OS with right?
[02:03] <thomedy> yep
[02:03] <Fyodorovna> mcurran, clonezilla.org
[02:03] <thomedy> i have definately done this before but i remember running unetbootin and making the iso... a thing
[02:03] <Fyodorovna> thomedy, then open unetbootin load the iso and reboot to it.
[02:03] <Guest14034> Hey everyone
[02:04] <thomedy> but tscool
[02:04] <thomedy> i will just run it
[02:04] <Guest14034> I couldn't seem to get my Ubuntu 11.10 to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04
[02:04] <thomedy> sorry
[02:04] <thomedy> do in it
[02:04] <Guest14034> I followed the instructions and it didn't work.
[02:04] <Fyodorovna> Guest14034, not a good idea it is in development.
[02:05] <Fyodorovna> Guest14034, is the 11.10 your main OSD?
[02:05] <che__> hello
[02:05] <Fyodorovna> OS*
[02:05] <Guest14034> Yes
[02:06] <Guest14034> It's not in a virtual machine if that is what you were asking.
[02:06] <che__> could anyone give me some pointers on getting some munin help
[02:06] <Guest14034> My machine is dual booted however.
[02:06] <Fyodorovna> Guest14034, then yhu definately d\should not be ugrading to 12.04 it is development it has not been released.
[02:07] <Fyodorovna> Guest14034, dual booted with what?
[02:07] <che__> yea... i am still on 10.04 for my builds
[02:09] <che__> if someone knows a good channel for help with munin I would greatly appreciate it.
[02:10] <KFP> Hey!
[02:10] <KFP> I've noticed that Ubuntu 11.10 often gets confused with programs that are running in maximized windows.
[02:11] <geirha> che__: I take it you've tried #munin?
[02:11] <Fyodorovna> KFP, how about a definition for confused.
[02:12] <KFP> The top bar doesn't work properly.
[02:12] <che__> yea... channel is dead
[02:12] <Fyodorovna> KFP, in what way?
[02:12] <mrd_> any network monitoring software for ubuntu ?
[02:13] <mrd_> any network monitoring software for ubuntu ?
[02:13] <che__> for net mon use wireshark
[02:13] <mrd_> any network monitoring software for ubuntu ?  expect wireshark
[02:13] <mrd_> any network monitoring software for ubuntu ?  expect wireshark
[02:13] <KFP> Fyodorovna: Recently, it seems to often happen that the menus in the top bar just disappear, so that the only options are minimize, maximize and close.
[02:14] <che__> all kinds but wireshark is best for auditing what you rely have going on
[02:14] <Fyodorovna> KFP, you may need to click the window then the top bar or something like that.
[02:14] <geirha> che__: Well, I'd idle in the channel and "strike" again when it gets lively
[02:15] <KFP> Fyodorovna: I've had the problem a number of times now and have clicked here and there (otherwise I wouldn't be whining about it). :)
[02:15] <che__> geirha... thanx for the advi... i will bounce back and fourth... just kink of anxious since i have limited time and am frustrated now
[02:16] <KFP> Fyodorovna: The problem seems to be happening with *at least* the Audacious music player and the XChat IRC client.
[02:16] <Fyodorovna> KFP, hard to say what the problem is I had to restrt the ldm at one point, could be tweaks to compiz, if you have made any changes.
[02:16] <che__> mrd .... what are you looking to monitor exactly?
[02:17] <beejeebus> does anyone know why php5 for precise has a build-depends on mysql-server-core-5.5?
[02:17] <che__> php and mysql have become intertwined in the last few years... lots of libs that have dependents
[02:18] <KFP> Fyodorovna: Nope, no changes. Sometimes X gets completely frozen when I alt-tab from one window to another.
[02:18] <beejeebus> che__: ok. but mysql server?
[02:18] <Fyodorovna> KFP, hard to say good luck.:)
[02:18] <Itaku> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop, booting off of the CD theres no video. Anyone know a fix?
[02:19] <che__> beejeebus... not sure... but there must be a lib that has a dependent with it
[02:19] <Fyodorovna> !nomodeset | Itaku
[02:19] <Fyodorovna> Itaku, nomodeset or the alternative cd works generally.
[02:19] <Itaku> thanks.
[02:20] <KFP> Fyodorovna: Well, it's not a huge problem, perhaps 12.04 will help once it's released.
[02:21] <che__> beejeebus: I am kind of rusty with irc... havn't used it in years...
[02:23] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> I just messed up Ubuntu
[02:24] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> I accidently pressed alt ctr f2 on my other username
[02:24] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> couldn't figure out how to get out so i typed startx
[02:24] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> Now i can't login to my user name at all..
[02:24] <jslTBH> might be on another virtual console - try CTRL ALT F7 (Default virtual console for X)
[02:25] <che__> lol
[02:25] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> im on root now
[02:25] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> should i do that on there?
[02:25] <che__> your ctrl alt and f1 through 7 are just different tty's
[02:26] <bazhang> ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT, is this backtrack
[02:26] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> no... this is Ubuntu 11.10
[02:26] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> im used to backtrack, that is why i typed in startx
[02:26] <gener1c> startx is fun
[02:26] <bazhang> the root account is disabled ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT
[02:26] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> i had to login to root on Ubuntu just to get on here
[02:26] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> I enabled root in Ubuntu
[02:27] <bazhang> ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT, no there is no need for that , ever
[02:27] <gener1c> albert your name hurts my eyes
[02:27] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> my other account is admin
[02:27] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> I know, but it's somewhat good i did it because now i can get on chat
[02:27] <KFP> Fyodorovna: XChat seems to have lost the top bar menu again. :\
[02:28] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> any help?
[02:28] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> Oh, and it says i am still logged in on that name
[02:28] <che__> yea ... ctrl alt f7
[02:28] <KFP> Fyodorovna: The minmax options are there but nothing else.
[02:28] <bazhang> ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT, it's not clear what your question is
[02:29] <bazhang> ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT, there is never a need to login as root, let alone irc as root
[02:30] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> Ok here is my problem. I was on my other username (which was an admin) and i pressed ctr-alt F2. It took me to a text command. I typed in startx (because i thought it would start the ox back up) and it did some weird stuff. I restarted the comp and tried to login to that same name. It does nothing. I had to login to root to get on here.
[02:30] <che__> bazhag... your missing the issue... he switched tty's and didnt' know how he got there
[02:30] <dr_willis> ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT,  you were allready in 'X' when you ran startx. so  the command would not be what you wanted.
[02:30] <bazhang> ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT, what is some "weird stuff" clarify
[02:30] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> I don't recall. I had to reboot the computer.
[02:30] <dr_willis> ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT,  you so the login screen worked?
[02:31] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> It was alien language if anything.
[02:31] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> yup
[02:31] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> the login screen works perfectly
[02:31] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> oh and btw when i go to user accounts it says i am still logged in
[02:32] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> Any ideas?
[02:32] <alexGla> setting git-hub repo, trying to copy key from git-hub. fail every time
[02:33] <dr_willis> ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT,  try making a new user. see if works for them
[02:33] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> okay
[02:34] <vacho> how do I get a log to print out automatically?
[02:35] <vacho> I do cat, but I have to run cat everytime its appended, how do I get it to output automatially everytime it's appended
[02:35] <trism> vacho: tail -f /path/to/log
[02:35] <vacho> ur the man thx
[02:35] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> i was able to create a new user
[02:35] <dr_willis> the log colorizer tools are handy also
[02:36] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> im more worried about losing all the files on that account
[02:36] <che__> so dose no one here know anything about munin
[02:36] <dr_willis> ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT,  if the new user works.. then its some setting of the old users that seem to be the issue.
[02:37] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> Is there a way to reset that?
[02:37] <dr_willis> you can login to the console and  clean out some settings.
[02:37] <bazhang> !info munin | che__
[02:37] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> how do i do that
[02:37] <dr_willis> in linux theres normally always a way. :)
[02:38] <dr_willis> ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT,  depends on what setting is the issue.  you could start by renameing the .config and .gnome* dirs, (or moveing them to some sub dir to archive them incase you want to try to get your settings back)
[02:38] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> ok i will give it a try.
[02:38] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> Thanks
[02:38] <dr_willis> bbl
[02:41] <lilVaratep> how do you leave an IRC ## ?
[02:41] <lilVaratep> Nevermind =D
[02:46] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> ok here is the error i am getting
[02:46] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> when restarting gnome
[02:46] <OldOneEye> if i have multipul ip address assigned by my isp how can i change the host name so internet users see haxor.box
[02:46] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> when i logout
[02:46] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> it says sessions not unmounting
[02:46] <OldOneEye> like in shell accounts
[02:47] <liubin> hit
[02:49] <airtonix> how do you set "resize with right mouse button" in 11.10? (in previous versions i could do this in gconf-editor, however ubuntu now uses dconf and that option isn't available there)
[02:50] <faissal> hi guys, whats wrong with my compiz volume overlay icon, it has turned to a low res image ? can i fix that ?
[02:50] <lilVaratep> faissal: can you please rephrase?
[02:51] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> Press alt ctr F2
[02:51] <faissal> lilVaratep: sorry, i meant to say that the overlay icon when i press volume up or down is now a lowresolution image, im running ubuntu precise with compiz turned on
[02:52] <bazhang> faissal, #ubuntu+1 for precise
[02:52] <faissal> ok bazhang
[02:52] <bazhang> ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT, who are you addressing
[02:52] <OldOneEye> if i have multipul ip address assigned by my isp how can i change the host name so internet users see haxor.box like in shells
[02:52] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> sorry i pressed ctrl f1 when i did that
[02:53] <ALBERTTTTTTTTTTT> One of my users will not unmount.
[02:53] <trism> airtonix: alt+middle-click maybe? seems to work in oneiric gnome-shell
[02:54] <airtonix> trism: yes i know that alt+middle click drag is the default, but i have always prefered (and been able to) change it to alt+rightclick drag.
[02:54] <airtonix> trism: in fact on my system 76 11.10 64bit laptop, i did somehow change it to alt+rightclick drag
[02:54] <wingdspur> OldOneEye: add your entry to /etc/hosts
[02:55] <OldOneEye> but wat will my external host be on the internet
[02:55] <erpo> I have a pptp vpn set up in networkmanager, and it keeps dropping out. Where can I look for log files to figure out why the connection is dropping?
[02:58] <vostro> wow
[02:58] <lilVaratep> wow... who said to press control alt f2
[02:58] <iiioxx> erpo: I'd start by tailing /var/log/syslog following your disconnect.
[02:58] <lilVaratep> anyone know how to get out of control alt f2?
[02:59] <airtonix> trism: short answer, you have to install compizconfig-settings-manager and change it there
[02:59] <airtonix> lilVaratep: ctrl alt f8
[02:59] <trishxo> how to format dvd-rw discs?
[02:59] <airtonix> trishxo: braeso or kd3
[03:00] <trishxo> airtronix: thank you very kindly sir.
[03:00] <bazhang> trishxo, brasero is what he meant
[03:00] <Roasted> Question - if I drop a bin bash script in cron.daily, will it run... daily? Is that what it's meant for or am I to schedule it in cron like any other job?
[03:00] <trishxo> bazhang: w,e i knew what he meant, so.
[03:00] <bazhang> and k3b
[03:00] <airtonix> trishxo: sorry kb3 not kd3
[03:00] <airtonix> at least i think
[03:01] <lilVaratep> what's ctrl alt f8 do
[03:01] <iiioxx> Roasted: yep, that
[03:01] <bazhang> k3b airtonix
[03:01] <lilVaratep> it just turned my screen blank
[03:01] <airtonix> that
[03:01] <iiioxx> that's what the directory is for.
[03:01] <airtonix> lilVaratep: try f9 or f7
[03:01] <trishxo> airtronix: w,e dude, i got it on brasero now so thx.
[03:01] <johnzorn> from the command line how would I query the x server to find out the displays and to turn them on/off
[03:01] <lilVaratep> f7 brings me back
[03:01] <lilVaratep> but in general what does ctrl + alt + f(x) do?
[03:01] <Roasted> iiioxx, do you know if the cron.daily executes at a specific time daily? I'm trying to figure out if the system is suspended 18 hours a day if it'll still manage to run daily....
[03:02] <trishxo> airtronix: now how do i actually format it? lol
[03:02] <airtonix> lilVaratep: sometimes it's different from machine to machine so you can't be sure
[03:02] <Fyodorovna> lilVaratep, takes you to the tty.
[03:02] <lilVaratep> what's tty?
[03:02] <lilVaratep> !tty
[03:02] <airtonix> trishxo: not sure, i think it's been 20 years since i touched a optical disc
[03:02] <trishxo> airtronix: you use usb to install linux?
[03:03] <airtonix> trishxo: k3b is actually more feature rich, (if you fond brasero lacking)
[03:03] <airtonix> trishxo: yeah all the time now, previously through network
[03:03] <iiioxx> Roasted: cat /etc/crontab
[03:03] <trism> airtonix: yeah I found it for gnome-shell too, still gconf: gconftool-2 -t bool -s /apps/metacity/general/resize_with_right_button true;
[03:04] <lilVaratep> is there a way to install ubuntu on same hard drive as w7? except not using wubi, because what if i want to format my w7?
[03:04] <airtonix> trism: which is of course only applicable to older versions of ubuntu yes?
[03:04] <Roasted> iiioxx, do you understand what I'm asking? That does nothing.
[03:04] <trism> airtonix: no I just tried it, still works in 11.10
[03:04] <airtonix> trism: doesn't for me. (in gnome shell)
[03:04] <iiioxx> Roasted: cat /etc/crontab and it will tell you what time your daily jobs will run.
[03:05] <trism> airtonix: did you restart the shell?
[03:05] <Roasted> iiioxx, no, no it doesn't.
[03:05] <Roasted> iiioxx, my job isn't set in /etc/crontab, its simply sitting in /etc/cron.daily because I was told th ose jobs will execute daily.
[03:05] <iiioxx> Roasted: you don't have a line like '25 6	* * *	root	test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily )'
[03:06] <iiioxx> in you /etc/crontab?
[03:06] <Roasted> iiioxx, oh, I see that now. :X
[03:06] <Sach> Why does my libre office document always open in a new workspace in ubuntu 11.04?
[03:06] <subthalamus> lilVaratep: if you dont already have a separate partition, youll have to create one first
[03:06] <Roasted> iiioxx, so if the system isnt on at that specific time, it wont EVER run... eh?
[03:06] <subthalamus> then installing ubuntu into it is childsplay
[03:06] <lilVaratep> subthalamus: and to do that i'd have to uninstall w7?
[03:06] <airtonix> trism: thanks for that, this was the missing step
[03:06] <iiioxx> Roasted: correct.
[03:07] <subthalamus> lilVaratep: no
[03:07] <Roasted> iiioxx, well, that sucks. I was hoping it worked more like deja dup, where it was intelligent enough to realize the system was turned off previously when it tried to run and jsut go.
[03:07] <Pecker> anyone have keyboard and mouse freezing issues with 10.04
[03:07] <lilVaratep> subthalamus: w7 cd wont let me partition because i already have an OS on this
[03:07] <subthalamus> lilVaratep: I'd suggest using a livecd with gparted and shuffle things around
[03:08] <airtonix> trism: i have one of those microsoft arc mice that flattens out (this middle button is actually a touch pad) so middle click is a tedious double tap
[03:08] <iiioxx> Roasted: I don't believe that's the case.  you could test it.  shut down the system prior to the scheduled time, wait until after, and then boot up again.  cron might do a 'catch up' on start, but I don't believe that's the case.
[03:08] <trism> airtonix: yeah it seems to work better with right-click than middle-click on my mouse as well (smoother)
[03:09] <subthalamus> lilVaratep: clear?
[03:09] <researcher123> whats the best method to backup and restore all my installed applications and settings on Ubuntu 11.10?
[03:09] <lilVaratep> subthalamus:yup
[03:09] <Roasted> iiioxx, thanks for the info. I think I'll take this question over to ##linux since cron can apply to far more than ubuntu.
[03:09] <lilVaratep> lilVaratep
[03:09] <iiioxx> Roasted: np.  sound plan
[03:10] <Roasted> iiioxx, to be honest, I find that hard to believe now that I think about it.
[03:10] <airtonix> researcher123: aptoncd will do all your debs (but not your settings), for system wide settings i use etckeeper (a git based revision system) and for your user settings, just copy the hidden folders in your home folder (bar a few of them)
[03:10] <Roasted> iiioxx, there are many scripts in /etc/cron.daily that I didn't put there. The system would have to be intelligfent enough to acknowledge them.
[03:10] <Roasted> iiioxx, I didn't think it would catch up till I remembered 8 or 9 other scripts in there...
[03:10] <Pecker> anyone?
[03:11] <Roasted> iiioxx, drat. cancel that. they just confirmed it won't run unless it's on. :/
[03:11] <airtonix> researcher123: despite its name, aptoncd can just create an iso for you instead of burning to optical disc
[03:11] <airtonix> !details | Pecker
[03:11] <iiioxx> Roasted: doing a quick search, it seems anacron might catch missed jobs in the /etc/cron.daily, /etc/cron.hourly, etc.
[03:12] <Fyodorovna> researcher123, remastersys is a nice way to go.
[03:12] <Pecker> and noone reads previous chat
[03:12] <Pecker> anyone have keyboard and mouse freezing issues with 10.04
[03:12] <Pecker> there..read chat next time lol
[03:12] <iiioxx> Roasted: from the anacron manpage: "Unlike cron(8), it does not assume that the machine is running continuously."
[03:13] <Fyodorovna> researcher123, you can also just clone it.
[03:13] <Roasted> iiioxx, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoWeeklyUpdateHowTo
[03:13] <Roasted> iiioxx, I see that now.
[03:13] <researcher123> airtonix: whats a etckeeper: How do I get it?
[03:14] <airtonix> researcher123: sudo apt-get install etckeeper. if you're not familiar with git then it's not for you. however what it does is watch the files in /etc and when changes are made during apt-get operations it creates commits (so you can rollback to previous versions)
[03:14] <Ubuntunub> Evening everyone.  :)
[03:14] <airtonix> researcher123: if you're only concerned about your userland settings then just focus on your home folder
[03:15] <lilVaratep2> hey, on my laptop taking a crap right now
[03:15] <Fyodorovna> !tmi | lilVaratep
[03:15] <researcher123> airtonix: I want to format hard disk.Reinstall 11.10 and get back all earlier programs & settigns
[03:15] <lilVaratep2> !slap Fyodorovna
[03:15] <lilVaratep2> =D
[03:16] <lilVaratep2> !commands
[03:16] <lilVaratep2> !KDE
[03:16] <Fyodorovna> lilVaratep, that sort of comment would have some op's banning you .
[03:17] <lilVaratep2> Anyone run kubuntu?
[03:17] <Roasted> iiioxx, this isnt by default though, is it?
[03:17] <Roasted> iiioxx, this needs to be set up, right?
[03:18] <droid-0854> Lilvaratep ive tried it
[03:18] <lilVaratep2> I hate the dash in ubuntu 11.10
[03:19] <iiioxx> Roasted: no, grazing through the anacron manpage it seems to be default behavior to make up the missed jobs.  give it a read and see what you think.
[03:19] <droid-0854> Ku is a nice adapt and you can try lubumtu
[03:19] <droid-0854> Lubuntu*
[03:20] <Roasted> iiioxx, hm, this page - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoWeeklyUpdateHowTo - is also from 2010. I wonder if it's changed since to be default like you're seeing.
[03:20] <Jak2000> how to encrypt a Text with booblefish algorithm? exist a program i am use windows
[03:20] <totesmuhgoats> lubumtu sounds like something fun
[03:20] <Roasted> <3 lubuntu
[03:20] <iiioxx> Roasted: the DVD I'm ripping just finished, so I'm off to watch a movie.  give that anacron manpage a read, I think it will answer your question.  good luck!
[03:21] <lilVaratep2> !torrent
[03:22] <Sach> Why does my libre office document always open in a new workspace in ubuntu 11.04?
[03:22] <lilVaratep2> Did anyone here about a bill passed and now they will track down torrent users?
[03:22] <lilVaratep2> hear*
[03:22] <totesmuhgoats> i like deluge myself
[03:22] <SaRSAeOL> btpd!
[03:22] <SaRSAeOL> :-D
[03:22] <itaylor57> !ot | lilVaratep2
[03:23] <lilVaratep2> !guidelines
[03:23] <Khanna_Param> Hi i am newbie in ubuntu. recently installed the ubuntu 11.10.  I have a strange problem, which i have been trying to solve from past few weeks. The title bar is missing on pressing the window menu button. Can anyone help me out Please
[03:23] <joebodo> can you post a screen shot to imagebin ?
[03:24] <Ubuntunub> Evening everyone.  I have what is likely a simple problem -- I have a backup.sh script I'm running to make a copy of a ramdisk dir and put it on another standard HD location dir.  However, it seems to be making a new folder level every time.  I.E.  I have opt/ramdisk and opt/ramdisk-save.  After the cron executes the backup.sh, I have opt/ramdisk and opt/ramdisk-save/ramdisk, (and after another cycle opt/ramdisk-save/ramdisk/ramdisk
[03:24] <Fyodorovna> Khanna_Param, have you changed anything in compiz?
[03:24] <droid-0854> Khanna I took the long route and made a new user
[03:24] <totesmuhgoats> sounds like a window manager problem
[03:24] <Pecker> anyone have keyboard and mouse freezing issues with 10.04?
[03:24] <Khanna_Param> I had earlier tried to play around with compiz
[03:24] <Ubuntunub> The script is rsync -a /opt/ramdisk/ /opt/ramdisk-save/                           Is it the -a that's causing issues?
[03:24] <Fyodorovna> Khanna_Param, reset compiz.
[03:25] <Khanna_Param> I changed compiz to install new theme
[03:25] <YohanMeister> has anyone here used, or even heard of, efi_stub?
[03:25] <overdub> Ubuntunub: you need -r for recursion
[03:25] <Khanna_Param> the problem actually started after i installed new theme.
[03:26] <Fyodorovna> Khanna_Param, changing compiz will cause this you can restart it to get the window headers back.
[03:26] <nnatomltop> Khanna_Param, I have had a a similar problem. You have to reset the window manager log out log back in.  It just frustrated me.
[03:26] <Fyodorovna> nnatomltop, you don't have to logut.
[03:26] <Ubuntunub> overdub:  Thank you.  I figured it was something to do with that pesky -a.  :)  Thanks!
[03:26] <Khanna_Param> can you guide me how to reset window manager/compiz
[03:26] <overdub> Ubuntunub: and the / at the end makes a difference
[03:26] <Khanna_Param> please
[03:27] <overdub> Ubuntunub: set up something simple and mess around with it both ways to get a feel for it
[03:27] <Fyodorovna> Khanna_Param, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[03:27] <Ubuntunub> overdub:  Should I not have that / at the end?
[03:28] <overdub> Ubuntunub: possibly, but I suggest setting something very simple up and trying it, then you'll know
[03:28] <Ubuntunub> overdub:  Will do.  Thanks again. :)
[03:28] <Fyodorovna> Khanna_Param, you can run this command as is as well.  gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz
[03:30] <haylo> i just did netinsatll and sound istn working
[03:30] <haylo> i intsalled alsa should i intstall pulseaudio?
[03:31] <Khanna_Param> Thanks everyone i will try and let you know what happened. I really appreciate the help
[03:33] <Pecker> anyone have keyboard and mouse freezing issues with 10.04?
[03:35] <haylo> ok so sound is working in root account- im not usre what i did wrong- il figure it out i guess
[03:35] <Fyodorovna> Pecker, pop a 10.04 cd in and see if it happens there.
[03:36] <Pecker> Fyodorovna: same result
[03:36] <Pecker> it freezes after about 30 seconds - 5 mins
[03:37] <Fyodorovna> Pecker, you booted a 10.04 cd?
[03:37] <Pecker> depeinsing in if you do a lto of things, or use firefox
[03:37] <Pecker> yep
[03:38] <lilVaratep2> pianobar is amazing if you want to listen to pandora in a terminal without flash: sudo apt-get install pianobar            i just tried it right now its awesome =D
[03:39] <Fyodorovna> Pecker, first time I have seen it on this chanell and I have 1000's of hours here, but here is the google of that info, maybe this will help. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=keyboard+and+mouse+freezing+issues+with+10.04&gbv=1&sei=EZJRT7nDJsOuiAKmw8G0Bg
[03:40] <Pecker> k will check it out...
[03:41] <Fyodorovna> Pecker, the only thing I would ask is the ram amount?
[03:43] <Pecker> Fyodorovna: 4GB
[03:43] <Pecker> system works fine in 9.10
[03:44] <Yellowzinha> .i need help
[03:44] <Yellowzinha> how can i install Google Chrome?
[03:45] <Fyodorovna> Pecker, probably would work fine in another release but your bound by the attachment to gnome 2.
[03:45] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   chromium is the linux version ..
[03:45] <aBound> Yellowzinha, Grab the .deb file from the Official google chrome website.
[03:45] <Yellowzinha> i did that
[03:45] <Yellowzinha> and now?
[03:46] <Yellowzinha> but i dont wanna use terminal
[03:46] <dr_willis> install it
[03:46] <SaRSAeOL> you won't have to use terminal
[03:46] <Yellowzinha> terminal is difficult
[03:46] <aBound> Yellowzinha, Who says you have to use the terminal to install a .deb file?
[03:46] <SaRSAeOL> a .deb is it's own little installer
[03:46] <dr_willis> double click it  normally.
[03:46] <SaRSAeOL> you should be fine just letting it rock
[03:46] <Pecker> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/632048 one of the comments describes exact mobo model..will have to try it out
[03:47] <aBound> Yellowzinha, Once you download the .deb file for either 32-Bit or 64-Bit dependent on your processor. Double-click the .deb file from where you saved it and it should prompt you to install it.
[03:47] <dr_willis> get over the terminal phobia is a good idea also
[03:47] <Yellowzinha> i did
[03:47] <Yellowzinha> but is not installing
[03:47] <pat123> anyone knowns the command line to tell ubuntu that i have 4 gig of ram not 2...thanks
[03:47] <aBound> Yellowzinha, What's it doing?
[03:47] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   did it ask you for the administrator password?
[03:47] <Fyodorovna> pat123, yuo need a kernel I believe
[03:47] <Pecker> pat123: soudsn more of liek hardware to me, make sure the ram is properly seated
[03:47] <dr_willis> i find   sudo gdebi foo.deb  is faster  :)
[03:48] <Fyodorovna> you*
[03:48] <Yellowzinha> yeah
[03:48] <pat123> thanks guys ..
[03:48] <Yellowzinha> i was in Terminal
[03:48] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha    do you KNOW the administrator password?
[03:49] <Yellowzinha> i know
[03:50] <Yellowzinha> chromium is free?
[03:50] <pat123> yes
[03:50] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   as is free beer
[03:50] <dr_willis> gpl yes
[03:51] <Pecker> gnome 2 doesnt bother me Fyodorovna, especially with unity ...dare i say crap... halving fps in games... (have to try anohter shell...)
[03:51] <Fyodorovna> !tab | use tab complete of nics so we know who yourtalking to
[03:52] <Fyodorovna> Yellowzinha, pat123 ^^^^
[03:52] <Yellowzinha> hi?
[03:52] <pat123> ?? :-)
[03:52] <Pecker> um i typed "Fy", pressed tab ,auto complete... then i get a tut on it? weird (lol)
[03:53] <Fyodorovna> Pecker, your showed the other users are not using nics it makes it convoluted.
[03:53] <Fyodorovna> yours*
[03:53] <Sach> Why does my libre office document always open in a new workspace in ubuntu 11.04?
[03:53] <Yellowzinha> Cross Over Chromium is good?
[03:53] <Fyodorovna> Sach, in a new workspace?
[03:53] <dr_willis> never heard of it Yellowzinha
[03:53] <Pecker> run that by again..that ddint make any sense
[03:53] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   chromium is in teh software center.  crossover is not.  Think about it.
[03:54] <Mayank1> Hi, Should I install LAMP server or install Apache2, PHP, MySQL separately on a Ubuntu Server? Any reason why I should not go for a LAMP install?
[03:54] <Fyodorovna> Pecker, the tab by the bot was not pointed at you.
[03:54] <Yellowzinha> tell me a site for download
[03:55] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   download what?
[03:55] <Fyodorovna> Yellowzinha, chromium is in the repos.
[03:55] <Yellowzinha> it isnt
[03:55] <Sach> Fyodorovna:  yes, my 11.04 is pre-installed with 4 workspaces (they are supposed to be used to avoid clutter on one screen)
[03:56] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   you need to enable universe packages
[03:56] <Pecker> oh
[03:56] <Fyodorovna> Sach, so libreoffice opens not in the one your on?
[03:56] <Sach> Fyodorovna: no, it opens in he second one for some reason
[03:56] <Pecker> now to rmeember hwo to blacklist drivers...
[03:57] <dr_willis> !blacklist
[03:57] <Fyodorovna> Sach, strange not sure why.
[03:57] <Sach> Fyodorovna:   thanks :)
[03:57] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, yo
[03:57] <lilVaratep> dr_willis: hi again =p
[03:58] <lolcat^> Hello
[03:58] <lolcat^> My computer freezes at boot
[03:59] <Fyodorovna> lolcat^,  do you mean a black screen?
[03:59] <lolcat^> no
[03:59] <lolcat^> it stops at Checking battery State OK
[04:00] <Fyodorovna> lolcat^, was it working, and if so any changes before this happened?
[04:00] <lolcat^> Fyodorovna: It worked on my laptop
[04:00] <lolcat^> I took the hdd out of my intel laptop and plugged it into my AMD desktop
[04:01] <Fyodorovna> lolcat^, try booting a cd.
[04:01] <Fyodorovna> ubuntu cd that is
[04:01] <lolcat^> my cdroom doesn't work
[04:02] <Tamara> hi
[04:02] <CFHowlett> lolcat^   usb boot?
[04:02] <Yellowzinha> thank you! ;)
[04:02] <CFHowlett> Tamara   greetigns
[04:02] <Fyodorovna> lolcat^, I'm not familiar with doing that but it seems to not work eh. :)
[04:02] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   you got chromium?
[04:02] <Yellowzinha> no
[04:02] <Tamara> how can i open a room
[04:02] <Yellowzinha> :(
[04:03] <fr3e> im trying to follow a guide to install dmalloc.h.    it wants me to ungzip and untar files into my source work directory.  what is my "source work directory"?
[04:03] <Fyodorovna> CFHowlett, have you checked out srware chrome http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php
[04:03] <shelest> Hi there!
[04:03] <lolcat^> how do I setup network in a terminal?
[04:04] <CFHowlett> shelest   greetings
[04:04] <CFHowlett> Fyodorovna   thanks, will read up on it.
[04:04] <Tamara> do i need use my password
[04:04] <shelest> lolcat^: do you mean ifconfig eth0 up?
[04:04] <lolcat^> is there a failsafe radeon driver?
[04:04] <Yellowzinha> Linux is difficult to me
[04:05] <lolcat^> shelest: yes
[04:05] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   anything new is difficult...
[04:05] <LukeNukem> lolcat^, Y U NO NYAN CAT?
[04:05] <dr_willis> learn the basics
[04:05] <shelest> Linux can not difficult for someone, someone can be just too simple for linux.
[04:05] <Tamara> can i stay here
[04:05] <CFHowlett> Tamara   this is the ubuntu support channel.  Have you a support request?
[04:06] <Yellowzinha> for me is difficult SHELEST
[04:06] <shelest> suddest me an email client with golded-like CLI interface?
[04:06] <Tamara> how can i make aroom
[04:06] <lolcat^> shelest: It just gave me an ipv6 adress :Y
[04:06] <lolcat^> where is the xorg file?
[04:07] <dr_willis> Tamara:  /join #mylittlechannel   is one way
[04:07] <Yellowzinha> CFHowlett, can i use a terminal to install?
[04:07] <dr_willis> lolcat^:  if it exists /etc/X11
[04:07]  * shelest *philosophize* Yellowzinha just too simple for Linux.
[04:08] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha    as I said previously, you need to enable "universe" in your software center settings.  After that, chromium will appear ...
[04:08] <dr_willis> !repo
[04:08] <lolcat^> What could be a reason for me only being able to read my filesystem?
[04:08] <Yellowzinha> how can i enable universe?
[04:08] <Pecker> well i will get to fixing system later, not at it right now
[04:08] <Pecker> cya later
[04:08] <dr_willis> !universe
[04:09] <shelest> Yellowzinha: the Universe.
[04:09] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   open the software center.  In 10.04 the "settings" tab is in the lower left corner.  Click on settings and get back to me.
[04:10] <dr_willis> googles .deb adds its own repo i recall.
[04:10] <Yellowzinha> Shelest, please,, if u dont know how to help me.. be quiet! thanks!
[04:10] <Yellowzinha> ok CFHowlett
[04:10] <Firebolt> dr_willis: yeah, I think it does
[04:10] <shelest> it is not the Jedi way... download tar.gz. untar and ./configure && make && make install
[04:10] <CFHowlett> * Let's ALL be patient and courteous, please*
[04:12] <lolcat^> when I choose remount in the recovery menu, howdo I get back the menu again+
[04:12] <lolcat^> ?
[04:12] <kim_> ddd
[04:13] <dr_willis> just a guess.. try 'exit'
[04:14] <dr_willis> lolcat^:  exit may log you out. :)
[04:14] <lolcat^> no effect
[04:14] <lolcat^> I don't get a terminal
[04:14] <dr_willis> i rarely use the recovery mode
[04:15] <lolcat^> I just need  read mode
[04:15] <lolcat^> err
[04:15] <lolcat^> write
[04:15] <lolcat^> so  I can edit the xorg to worl
[04:15] <lolcat^> and change password
[04:16] <Fyodorovna> lolcat^, do you want to change the user password?
[04:16] <lolcat^> yes
[04:16] <dr_willis> you could just use the text mode
[04:16] <Fyodorovna> lolcat^, can you not login?
[04:16] <lolcat^> How do I list users?
[04:16] <lolcat^> Can't remember my username :P
[04:17] <dr_willis> ls /home    perhaps
[04:18] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   ???
[04:18] <Yellowzinha> CFHowlett, thank you!
[04:18] <lolcat^> dr_willis: found my username, cant remember password
[04:19] <fr3e> are there any other wyas to autocp[lete long names besides tab and asterisk? e.g. cd long_fil*
[04:19] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   thought you left.  So did you enable the "universe" in your software center?
[04:19] <Yellowzinha> yeah
[04:20] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   and chromium is available in the center now?
[04:20] <Yellowzinha> it is not
[04:20] <dr_willis> lolcat^:  time to start using the same user and pass on all systems i guess.
[04:21] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   okay, time for a bit of terminal.  run this command sudo apt-get update
[04:21] <sheep_> hey, i have a little issue with using wireless on ubuntu
[04:21] <sheep_> anyone around to give some help? :)
[04:21] <lolcat^> dr_willis: But I need to get the remount thing to work
[04:21] <lolcat^> Can I remount manually?
[04:21] <CFHowlett> sheep_   ask away
[04:22] <sheep_> alrighty
[04:22] <Yellowzinha> and now?
[04:22] <dr_willis> lolcat^:  you could
[04:22] <lolcat^> how?
[04:22] <dr_willis> -o remount to the mount command
[04:22] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   sudo apt-get install chromium
[04:22] <dr_willis> !mount
[04:22] <lolcat^> mount -o remount?
[04:23] <sheep_> when i connect to my home wireless (wndr 3700v2 running dd-wrt) in ubuntu 11, my router becomes unresponsive to everything on the network until it is physically turned off/on
[04:23] <sheep_> this doesn't happen when i connect through win7 wireless
[04:23] <sheep_> or through any other device i have
[04:24] <sheep_> if i connect through ethernet it's fine
[04:24] <lolcat^> dr_willis: worked :D
[04:25] <Yellowzinha> nothing
[04:25] <dr_willis> linux FUN
[04:25] <Yellowzinha> only.... reading packages
[04:26] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   run that command again.  Copy and paste the terminal display to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[04:26] <Yellowzinha> ok
[04:26] <lolcat^> how  do  I reconfigure graphics?
[04:27] <dr_willis> lolcat^: whats yourchipset?
[04:27] <lolcat^> AMD A4 3400
[04:28] <lolcat^> Looks like  apt-get upgrae updates xorg
[04:28] <CFHowlett> dr_willis   linux *is* FUN.  noun + verb + adjective = sentence.  :)
[04:28] <lolcat^> maybe  it triggers reconfiuration
[04:28] <sheep_> any idea? :(
[04:30]  * lolcat^ crosses fingers
[04:31] <Yellowzinha> ok CFHowlett
[04:31] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   please copy and paste up the url so I can see
[04:32] <Canadian1296> I need some help with postfix. I tested it and it works, but then I changed postfix to use Maildir instead of mbox. When I restarted it, it created a file called Maildir in ~, but it is a file not a folder. Now I cannot check my mail.
[04:32] <lolcat^> It takes weeks to upgrade this ...
[04:32] <Yellowzinha> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:32] <fr3e>  i made dmalloc, and now dmalloc.h is in /usr/include/dmalloc.h and /usr/local/include/dmalloc.h.   but when i try to compile it still says dmalloc.h no such file or directory. what to do?
[04:33] <Yellowzinha> i am going to give up
[04:33] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   YOU open http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste in your content.  Then you hit enter.  Then url to the screen after that is the one I need to see.
[04:34] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   like this.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoJDRvzMwnY
[04:35] <LachlanH> Anybody able to help with bind9? Reverse DNS is giving me weirdness: http://pastebin.com/ETsqh05t
[04:36] <lolcat^> Do I need a driver for: Radeon HD 6410D?
[04:38] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   still with us?
[04:39] <dr_willis> CFHowlett:  linux FUNdamentals
[04:39] <CFHowlett> dr_willis   maybe.  I remember when I first dipped my toe into linux ... scary.
[04:40] <AaronMT> !edgy
[04:40] <Yellowzinha> yeah
[04:41] <lolcat^> Why is my linux pae?
[04:41] <Fyodorovna> I only give up on love. :)
[04:41] <Canadian1296> Anyone?
[04:42] <lolcat^> # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <- shouln't that ask for input?
[04:43] <Fyodorovna> lolcat^, is it 12.04?
[04:43] <lolcat^> 11. something
[04:43] <Yellowzinha> i am giving up CFHowlett
[04:43] <Yellowzinha> i am going now.. tomorrow i will be here again!
[04:43] <Yellowzinha> thank you! ;)
[04:43] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   alright.  come back when you're ready.
[04:44] <lolcat^> I installed on a intel laptop, and moved the hdd to a amd computer
[04:44] <CFHowlett> good luck.
[04:44] <lolcat^> Now x is b0rked
[04:44] <Yellowzinha> same here
[04:44] <Yellowzinha> bye!
[04:44] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha   learn from these:  http://fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads/
[04:45] <Yellowzinha> ok CFHowlett! thanks!
[04:45] <lolcat^> Oh noes, why do I have unity?! :S
[04:45] <grendal-prime> man..i got this install error for pc-grub
[04:45] <Yellowzinha> thanks for patience!
[04:46] <CFHowlett> Yellowzinha    no worries.
[04:46] <swaj> hey guys, I'm running precise beta, and so far, it rocks.  One thing I'd like to fix though is that when I move my mouse between screens, it "sticks" to the edge until I move it a certain distance.  Can I disable that?
[04:47] <CFHowlett> !precise|swahj
[04:47] <CFHowlett> !precise|swaj
[04:54] <Simkatt> could any1 help me with a router?
[04:54] <AaronMT> !warty
[05:03] <grendal-prime> dpkg: error processing grub-pc (--configure):
[05:03] <grendal-prime> that looks bad
[05:03] <grendal-prime> thats the only error i get back ..
[05:03] <grendal-prime> i mean that and something about it being partially installed
[05:05] <siv0r> hi, does anyone know about bash scripting/nautilus scripts? my problem is in regards to a script that works from the command line but not when run from the nautilus context menu
[05:08] <dr_willis> siv0r: theres a website or 3 with examples i found ages ago thatshandy
[05:14] <codeperl> hello all
[05:15] <codeperl> i am in a problem with my package. can anyone please help me?
[05:15] <codeperl> http://pastebin.com/mNJpwmeh
[05:16] <codeperl> question is, how can i fix up this Broken Packages problem in ubuntu 11.04 and can install my packages.
[05:18] <gordonfreeman> hey guys
[05:18] <codeperl> hello
[05:18] <gordonfreeman> I installed ubuntu via wubi on my laptop. I was wondering if using lubi on wubi would work
[05:18] <codeperl> gordonfreeman, can you help me about my problem?
[05:19] <gordonfreeman> codeperl: maybe
[05:19] <codeperl> http://pastebin.com/mNJpwmeh
[05:20] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!!
[05:20] <codeperl> question is, how can i fix up this Broken Packages problem in ubuntu 11.04 and can install my packages.
[05:20] <CFHowlett> ponrajuganesh   greetings
[05:20] <ponrajuganesh> where could I find the sources.list file in ubunut 11/04
[05:21] <gordonfreeman> codeperl: just download and install them...
[05:21] <gordonfreeman> if they are broken, remove them and re do it
[05:21] <ponrajuganesh> could anyone do a pastebin of their sources.list since I am out of my internal networks I am not able to download the "Expect" I need the repostories of the ubuntu
[05:21] <CFHowlett> ponrajuganesh   /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:22] <codeperl> gordonfreeman: if you see the pastie, there is some dependencies
[05:22] <codeperl> so, How can i?
[05:22] <ponrajuganesh> I need the repositories of ubuntu links to be added in sources.list could u do a pastebin of that CFHowlett?
[05:22] <codeperl> I am a beginner.
[05:23] <CFHowlett> ponrajuganesh   I'm in Ubuntu Studio 10.04 - but see this tool.  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[05:23] <sacarlson> codeperl: I'm sure you already did : sudo apt-get update ; no?
[05:24] <gordonfreeman> I installed ubuntu via wubi on my laptop. I was wondering if using lubi on wubi would work
[05:24] <ponrajuganesh> oh will the repository links change CFHowlett? i don't think s
[05:24] <lanceio> if I install ubuntu-desktop on a server edition of ubuntu, automatically will the GUI start every time I start the computer? or should I manually type startx?
[05:24] <codeperl> sacarlson: ya, i did.
[05:24] <codeperl> but it's not working.
[05:24] <Fyodorovna> gordonfreeman, lubi?
[05:25] <gordonfreeman> fyodorovna: its what wubi is based on. basically wubi but for any distro and its supported only on unix
[05:25] <gordonfreeman> so basically im wanting to do what i did for ubuntu on windows, except now on ubuntu
[05:26] <codeperl> sacarlson: what i should do now? can you please suggest me the commands and procedures to fix this?
[05:26] <sacarlson> codeperl: did you do some custom modifications to your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:26] <codeperl> sacarlson, i need to check. wait a moment please.
[05:27] <codeperl> sacarlson: not actually. i do not change anything.
[05:27] <zabomber> LachlanH: yes. it should
[05:28] <CFHowlett>  ponrajuganesh fwiw:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/866209/
[05:28] <codeperl> sacarlson: you need to see the file?
[05:29] <sacarlson> codeperl: sure pastebinit  to us,  what did you do to make this happen?
[05:29] <zabomber> anyone know of an "out of the box" irc bot in ubuntu?
[05:29] <zabomber> or do i have to utilize a perl skeleton of one and create it from scratch?
[05:29] <Fyodorovna> gordonfreeman, by and large wubi is not really supported, even by its designer at least for long term install.I virtual is a better idea really all in  all. You can try what you want but I'm not sure you will get much help, especially here as this is ubuntu support, just a heads up really.
[05:30] <Fyodorovna> I=A
[05:30] <ponrajuganesh> thanks CFHowlett
[05:30] <codeperl> i need to install ruby. so, at first i need to install rvm. in the process of installing rvm, a command gives me the error.
[05:30] <Firebolt> zabomber: perhaps look into supybot?
[05:31] <codeperl> sacarlson: http://pastebin.com/ehp06qi2
[05:31] <sacarlson> codeperl: did you try apt-get install ruby-full ?
[05:31] <codeperl> this is source.list
[05:32] <codeperl> sacarlson, no,  because of i need to install ruby via rvm
[05:32] <sacarlson> codeperl: I'm not sure but I think natty is at end of life or am I wrong?
[05:33] <codeperl> sacarlson: i am not clear also.
[05:33] <sacarlson> codeperl: no I must be wrong about that
[05:35] <codeperl> sacarlson: source.list, helps you to found out?
[05:38] <codeperl> sacarlson: you there?
[05:39] <sacarlson> codeperl: is this a standard supported mirror site deb-src http://mirrors.ispros.com.bd/ubuntu/ natty main restricted
[05:39] <cbush15> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[05:39] <cbush15> What does this mean and what is the way around?
[05:39] <sacarlson> codeperl: try change your host repository and try again
[05:39] <codeperl> sacarlson.i think yes.
[05:39] <sacarlson> codeperl: then try another
[05:40] <codeperl> sacarlson: ok i am trying.
[05:40] <lahwran> hi. I have ssh access to my desktop. I think I have a vnc server on it, but I tried to forward it and was unable to connect. is there some secret to forwarding vnc over ssh?
[05:40] <lahwran> I'm just using the default vnc server from 10.10
[05:40] <codeperl> thank you, sacarlson.
[05:41] <roasted> Question - I just set up a samba share using system-config-samba. It's configured identically to my other desktop, however, I cannot login. No errors or anything, it just comes back with the login screen again and again. Guest access is okay, just not with valid user access. Both machines Ubuntu (client and server) Any idea?
[05:42] <sacarlson> roasted: maybe you attempted to share from a file system that's not supported?  like maybe ntfs?  try share from your /home/user folder to verify
[05:42] <an0n> anyone know the software name on windows that allows you to update all your programs at once?
[05:43] <soreau> an0n: Try #windows. That has absolutely nothing to do with ubuntu
[05:43] <haylo> so my netinstall doesnt have much on it but has nautilus and thunar and stuff. is there a program i can install to mount drvies with like say other hard drive partitions or should i just be trying to mount them manually
[05:43] <haylo> normally ubuntu mounts them for me but like i said my netinstall is sort of lacking
[05:44] <haylo> other than that though everything is working perfect now
[05:44] <haylo> took me 2 days though
[05:44] <haylo> soryy to be a pain
[05:45] <sacarlson> haylo: nautilus will mount drives if the drive is set to user in fstab
[05:45] <haylo> ok il try to look il mak a link to fstab i guess
[05:45] <roasted> sacarlson, both systems are ubuntu, though. ext4.
[05:45] <sacarlson> haylo: fstab is a file in /etc/fstab
[05:46] <lahwran> how would I check if there is a vnc server running from the command line? I'd prefer to search for the appropriate open ports and check if it will accept connections as I can see the process in `ps aux` but not communicate with it over ssh.
[05:46] <sacarlson> roasted: ok that's supported
[05:47] <sacarlson> lahwran: sudo netstat -pant
[05:48] <haylo> im sorry - i see the drives in fstab but  i dont see anything about users
[05:48] <lahwran> hm that's not good, there's no mention of the process in that output. so now my question becomes, how do I start the "share your desktop" vnc server from the commandline? I think something related to gconftool, yes?
[05:49] <sacarlson> haylo: that may be why a standard user can't mount them, otherwise it will require sudo to mount
[05:49] <haylo> hmm i have a root account maybe i can access them in that if i really need to
[05:50] <sacarlson> haylo: just add user to the fstab of the disks you want your users able to auto mount http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[05:51] <acidrain> epic issue with my ubuntu box. i get error when loading any application just about: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. how do i fix this?
[05:51] <acidrain> does anyone know of a way i can just make this file not be needed? i know it doesnt come installed by default
[05:52] <roasted> Is there such thing as a samba log? I'm trying to troubleshoot this login issue but I have no error message so I'm not sure what could be wrong.
[05:52] <lahwran> acidrain: *any* application?
[05:53] <lahwran> acidrain: does the machine boot at all?
[05:53] <acidrain> lahwran: well... firefox, nautilus. rhythmbox
[05:53] <acidrain> konversation
[05:53] <acidrain> just about any useful application i can think of
[05:53] <lahwran> acidrain: okay, does a terminal open? if so, try `sudo ldconfig` and then try again
[05:53] <acidrain> yeah, hang on
[05:53] <lahwran> it may already be up to date in which case that will do no harm nor good
[05:54] <lahwran> but you can give that a try and see if it fixes it
[05:54] <acidrain> lahwran: appeared to not fix anything. same error
[05:54] <lahwran> acidrain: have you done anything recently which had anything to do with compiling or installing programs?
[05:55] <acidrain> well i had actually downloaded the file libstdc++.so.6.0.3 and it had a link to 6.0.0, and i moved them to usr/lib/ that is when the issue began. and i deleted them both, and the issue still remained
[05:56] <pangolin> try install libstdc++6-4.4-dev
[05:56] <helo_> i installed the ati driver from their website, and after uninstalling it i can't get the normal driver to load
[05:56] <acidrain> pangolin: i cant open synaptic package manager :(
[05:56] <lahwran> helo_: "normal driver"? ie, vesa?
[05:56] <lahwran> acidrain: sudo apt-get install libstdc++6-4.4-dev
[05:56] <pangolin> err wrong version, lawran what version does oneiric have
[05:56] <lahwran> if it boots, it should be able to do that
[05:57] <lahwran> oh I dunno
[05:57] <helo_> it always tries to load fglrx kernel module (which doesn't exist now), and fails trying to access /dev/fb0, says my chipset requires KMS, and fails with no screens found
[05:57] <lahwran> pangolin: I'm still on maverick
[05:57] <acidrain> lahwran: when issuing that command. i get same error :(
[05:57] <helo_> lahwran: presumably... the default driver that was loaded before i installed the ati driver
[05:57] <helo_> lahwran: i think there is an open source ati driver that should work in addition to vesa
[05:57] <lahwran> acidrain: how important is this install? the easiest way to solve this is a reinstall. you can rescue it if you like, but it will be a fair amount more effort than a reinstall if the current one isn't important
[05:58] <lahwran> !ati
[05:58] <acidrain> lahwran: i would prefer not to :/ i have several servers installed. that took weeks to setup
[05:58] <acidrain> lahwran: is this a bug?
[05:58] <pangolin> acidrain: no
[05:59] <lahwran> acidrain: no, it's you sticking your fingers in funny places and leaving holes bigger than they were when you started :p
[05:59] <acidrain> well ill take the long route to fix the issue. can i have some type of reference link?
[05:59] <sacarlson> acidrain: can you try sudo apt-get reinstall libstdc++6  ?
[05:59] <lahwran> he did, it fails too
[05:59] <acidrain> sacarlson: no. i get the error
[05:59] <lahwran> I'm very surprised this machine boots, honestly
[05:59] <acidrain> other part says: wrong elf class: elfclass32
[05:59] <lahwran> oh heavens I'm not qualified to fix that
[06:00] <droid-0854> Lol... elf
[06:00] <pangolin> acidrain: you have separate /home ?
[06:00] <sacarlson> acidrain: that manual link you made I guess you will have to reverse it , if that's even posible
[06:00] <lahwran> acidrain: but to fix the library issue, what I would do is grab your nearest bootable ubuntu live media for the appropriate version, boot it up, and then copy the files from the live media to the install that need to be replaced
[06:01] <acidrain> pangolin: actually when i rebooted, it appears to have loaded a separate account or a restored defaults.
[06:01] <helo_> law_: my card worked initially (after install) without the ati driver, but it isn't listed on the supported cards page of that howto link
[06:01] <lahwran> helo_: what card?
[06:01] <lahwran> helo_: you can find out with `lspci` if necessary
[06:01] <acidrain> lahwran: but the file was never there in the first place...
[06:01] <lahwran> wait, it wasn't?
[06:02] <lahwran> then ldconfig *should* have fixed this
[06:02] <acidrain> lahwran: ... no... i had to download it.
[06:02] <pangolin> acidrain: you are running Ubuntu correct?
[06:02] <lahwran> why did you download it? and from where?
[06:02] <acidrain> i downloaded it. it haxed me. i removed it. im still hax
[06:02] <droid-0854> Lah,acid Great idea mount default iso and pull files
[06:02] <acidrain> pangolin: yes, ubuntu
[06:02] <acidrain> i was getting this error when trying to run the shoutcast server. so i had to find the library file
[06:03] <lahwran> and where did you get the shoutcast server from?
[06:03] <lahwran> surely there is one in the repository
[06:03] <helo_> lahwran: radeon 6550D (apu for amd a8-6850 cpu)
[06:03] <acidrain> lahwran: i got the server from shoutcast.com
[06:03] <lahwran> acidrain: ah, I see
[06:03] <acidrain> pangolin: yes, ubuntu
[06:04] <lahwran> acidrain: what did ldconfig do? error?
[06:04] <pangolin> acidrain: I believe the best solution is to do a clean install, and to check the repos (software centre) before compiling
[06:04] <acidrain> lahwran: i got no error. no output at all
[06:05] <lahwran> okay that should have meant it worked
[06:05] <lahwran> where did you get this file from?
[06:05] <droid-0854> Acid you ran updates and apt-get update, update-db, sync and reboot stuff?
[06:05] <lahwran> droid-0854: he is unable to use apt-get
[06:05] <acidrain> lahwran: well i would like to show you a link. lol. but i had to dig for it
[06:06] <lahwran> acidrain: it's sounding more and more like this file was highly incompatible with your system and I'm about ready to tell you that you're just going to have to deal with having to reinstall
[06:06] <acidrain> lahwran: here is what im wondering. if i copy my entire usr/lib/ from this box to my server box, will it fix this issue?
[06:06] <droid-0854> Oh that is strange Acid did yoi
[06:06] <lahwran> it might. it also might royally screw things up
[06:06] <acidrain> lahwran: yeah im guessing it was incompatible too >_>
[06:07] <acidrain> lahwran: well whats the worse that could happen :/
[06:07] <Masroor> Hello
[06:07] <lahwran> your system becomes unbootable
[06:07] <acidrain> =(
[06:07] <droid-0854> You ls -a ect/sources.list?
[06:07] <lahwran> droid-0854: please read the full conversation before commenting further
[06:08] <droid-0854> May be chown or chgrp thing
[06:08] <acidrain> lahwran: ok so i can boot up a live cd on this computer. copy usr/lib/ to the server box, and try that?
[06:08] <Masroor> i am thinking to move to ubuntu but i want to know my laptop drivers will support out there ?
[06:08] <acidrain> since i know for a fast the live cd and my server box have same versions
[06:09] <lahwran> acidrain: I would copy it to a separate location, then attempt to diff all files to see which ones differ. if any differ, I would individually consider overwriting them
[06:09] <lahwran> acidrain: /usr/lib/ is very important and holds most libraries required to make your system go, it's not something to be trifled with
[06:11] <acidrain> lahwran: wow. what a fail. no other drives will mount.
[06:11] <acidrain> i cant even back my system up
[06:11] <acidrain> =///
[06:11] <lahwran> reboot it to a live media
[06:11] <pangolin> you can mount them by booting to a live cd
[06:11] <pangolin> then backup
[06:12] <acidrain> pangolin: now define live cd for me again? :)
[06:12] <lahwran> what's a good separate-session vnc server?
[06:12] <pangolin> acidrain: an Ubuntu Desktop cd
[06:12] <lahwran> acidrain: is this on a vps?
[06:13] <lahwran> ie, a good, fast vnc server, which can easily be set up, and which will create a separate session from my main desktop login
[06:13] <acidrain> lahwran: vps?
[06:14] <lahwran> that's a no
[06:14] <acidrain> lol
[06:14] <acidrain> ok im booting into live cd now :/ man what a bummer. i knew i shouldnt have touched that stuff
[06:16] <acidrain> this is without a doubt the most epic fail of the year.
[06:16] <acidrain> does ubuntu have a repair option?
[06:16] <acidrain> that would be great
[06:17] <CFHowlett> acidrain   only on the alternate installer cdroms
[06:17] <rymate1234> how do I wipe a DVD-RW
[06:18] <acidrain> i hope i am actually able to access the files
[06:19] <Brewster> how do I add a user to the sudoers file?
[06:19] <acidrain> or if win7 would actually detect a ext4 file system, then we would be alot better off
[06:21] <christinepea777> I know others have had this problem and Ive checked forums but nothing seems to work. I run Ubuntu from a USB stick, it's worked fine until recently, when I try and boot it up it hangs at the splash screen and just sits there. any help? :(
[06:21] <Fyodorovna> rymate1234, I think you can right click it and blank.
[06:21] <Fyodorovna> christinepea777, this was a iso load with persistent?
[06:22] <christinepea777> Fyodorovna, yes
[06:22] <Fyodorovna> christinepea777, couple of possibilities a kernel upgrade will mess it up and the persistent file fills up as well it can't really be cleaned easily.
[06:24] <christinepea777> I didnt do any kernal upgrades, the only think I think I could have done is installed mplayer. in any event, I don't mind reformatting the USB stick and reinstalling, I'd just like to rescue some of my files from the USB stick first.
[06:24] <Fyodorovna> christinepea777, you just need to remove the casper-rw file that is the persistent, it will remove everything added though.
[06:25] <christinepea777> Fyodorovna, if I remove that file I won't be able to recover any of my documents?
[06:25] <Fyodorovna> christinepea777, exactly.
[06:26] <christinepea777> Fyodorovna, do you know of any other possible solution?
[06:26] <Fyodorovna> christinepea777, you can do full installs on a big enough thumb it will run and save and clean like a regular install.
[06:27] <acidrain> how can i backup a sql database from linux while running win7?
[06:27] <christinepea777> Fyodorovna, perhaps if I boot up directly to the CLI thus bypassing the GUI splash screen I can recover my documents, does that sound reasonable?
[06:28] <Fyodorovna> christinepea777, not really myself others might, most people don't know this about that persistent file that it fills up. I'm just guessing that is the problem here, but most likely.
[06:28] <peteyg> acidrain: do you have SSH access to the linux box?
[06:28] <acidrain> i have win7 on a internal drive inside my linux box
[06:28] <acidrain> so i have to boot separate, i can only access files
[06:28] <christinepea777> Fyodorovna, when I try and boot the USB stick and use the Live option, I have the same issue.
[06:29] <Fyodorovna> christinepea777, not sure about the cli, you might get to them from another linux os not sure really.
[06:29] <christinepea777> Fyodorovna, is it possible to boot up to just the CLI?
[06:30] <Fyodorovna> christinepea777, not sure about the cli, and I'm not sure I understand this post..."when I try and boot the USB stick and use the Live option, I have the same issue."
[06:30] <acidrain> i need tis database :(
[06:32] <christinepea777> Fyodorovna, well when you boot up with the USB with ubuntu on it you are prompted with an options screen, you can either boot up in persistent mode (and thus save data to your linux OS) or you can boot up into live mode. which is like a regular liveCD, it doesnt include your persistent file.
[06:32] <Fyodorovna> christinepea777, I would check if you boot a live cd or another thumb then plugin this thumb you might get the documents, not sure really.
[06:33] <Fyodorovna> christinepea777, ah I haven't used a persistent thumb for awhile. I think it is just full the oersistent file that is, but I'm guessing here.
[06:33] <Fyodorovna> persistent*
[06:33] <jadoe> I'm trying to compile s2-liplianin drivers on 11.10 with kernel 3.0.0-16, I get this ( http://sprunge.us/MMCG ) error. They build fine one 10.04. This problem is also mentioned here ( http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/S2-liplianin#Kernel_3.0-3.1 ) without fix. This is not a layer 8 problem on my side, I guess? What do I do? Buy a new TV card? Use an old kernel?
[06:34] <Fyodorovna> christinepea777, I have seen people claim to clean that file, but never actualy seen it done personally, gives you something to look at though if that is the problem.
[06:35] <christinepea777> Fyodorovna, yeah, I'm pretty sure it's got space in it. I think mplayer altered my bootup configs in some manner and that's causeing my to hang at the splash screen. I can press ESC and see all the stuff scrolling by and it's all a bunch of errors.
[06:36] <Fyodorovna> christinepea777, mplayer should not touch the boot thats a long casue and effect jump. :)
[06:36] <Fyodorovna> cause*
[06:36] <helo_> i installed a sblive, and it is not appearing in /proc/asound/cards
[06:37] <helo_> i see that the snd_emu10k1 and related modules are loaded
[06:37] <christinepea777> Fyodorovna, heh, well I was speculating that maybe mplayer altered the sound config in some way and during bootup it encountered errors with the sound config
[06:37] <pankaj> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:38] <Fyodorovna> christinepea777, anything can happen how big was the persistent, and how long did you use the install?
[06:38] <karthick87> Is there any light weight desktop ?
[06:38] <christinepea777> It was like 4gigs, I used the install for like 2 weeks. the persistent file still have 2+gigs of free space when I last checked.
[06:39] <karthick87> Is there any light weight desktop  with nice GUI other than GNOME?
[06:39] <Fyodorovna> christinepea777, how did you check?
[06:39] <CFHowlett> karthick87   lxde xfce4
[06:40] <solpeth> karthick87: window managers like openbox are also good
[06:40] <christinepea777> Fyodorovna, I dunno, I just looked at fdisk -l or something
[06:40] <karthick87> CFHowlett: How to install it?
[06:40] <CFHowlett> karthick87   look in your software center ...
[06:41] <karthick87> solpeth: What is openbox?
[06:41] <adhf> "/list"
[06:41] <mohsin^> hi
[06:41] <lolcat^> It won't let me move the sound thing
[06:41] <lolcat^> why not?
[06:41] <Fyodorovna> christinepea777, I remember when I used a persistent, just checking it out I could not really get a accurate empty full amount just to the nature of the setup.
[06:41] <christinepea777> fyodorovna nod
[06:42] <mohsin^> i need help with turning off left bar on the desktop ..or at least make is collapse
[06:42] <Fyodorovna> mohsin^, collapse?
[06:42] <solpeth> karthick87: it's a window manager, without all the extras of a desktop environment like GNOME. I'm not currently using it but it is fantastic
[06:42] <mohsin^> autohide Fyodorovna
[06:42] <Fyodorovna> mohsin^, do you mean hide
[06:43] <Fyodorovna> mohsin^, the unity plugin in ccsm is the control
[06:44] <mohsin^> Fyodorovna,  .. a little slower please
[06:44] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[06:44] <satyanash> Hi, is a there a file system that is better than FAT32 but is natively compatible with both windows and linux ?
[06:45] <dr_willis> satyanash:  ntfs
[06:45] <rymate1234> ntfs
[06:45] <satyanash> NTFS, will linux auto-defrag NTFS ?
[06:45] <dr_willis> satyanash:  no
[06:45] <satyanash> :(
[06:45] <mohsin^> I have compiz installed but it has so may options I dont have a clue what to turn on or off
[06:45] <satyanash> dr_willis, is the NTFS support good ?
[06:46] <lilVaratep> Dang, still working on that compiz problem?
[06:46] <Fyodorovna> mohsin^, ccsm is the compizconfigm settings manager there is a uintyn plugin there your using the unity desktop. In that plugin are controls for that bar.
[06:46] <satyanash> dr_willis, I mean, does disk resizing fail often ?
[06:46] <dr_willis> mohsin^:  unity plugin has the settings
[06:46] <dr_willis> satyanash:  gparted can resize ntfs
[06:47] <satyanash> okay. I hope it works. I dont have space to take Backup. xD
[06:47] <dr_willis> data worth keeping is worth backing up
[06:47] <acidrain> satyanash: you can buy space for like 5$ at walmart
[06:47] <acidrain> 16gb
[06:48] <CFHowlett> dr_willis   whoa.  Do you like have that saying on a plaque that I could buy somewhere?  :)
[06:48] <satyanash> acidrain,  You do realize, not everybody has has walmart.
[06:48] <acidrain> do you not have a computer store of some type?
[06:48] <acidrain> a kroger?
[06:48] <dr_willis> 4gb was like $7
[06:48] <satyanash> acidrain, Do you mean Flash Drives ?
[06:49] <acidrain> all stores should have them by the checkout line
[06:49] <dr_willis> saw 16gb for $18 tofay
[06:49] <acidrain> satyanash: yes, just enough space for you to backup for now, until you can get something bigger
[06:49] <Fyodorovna> 32 gig class 10 sdhc 35$
[06:49] <acidrain> satyanash: newegg.com :)
[06:49] <satyanash> will check, getting a MicroSD Class 4 8GB card.
[06:49] <dr_willis> ubuntu one has 5gb for free
[06:50] <chris_0076> ok, so some fairly critial files have been deleted off my desktop, how might I go about recovering them?
[06:50] <satyanash> dr_willis, I dont have unlimited/ fast internets.
[06:50] <acidrain> satyanash: dont trust it! ubuntu one will hax your information!
[06:50] <chris_0076> from what I have seen it can be done with scalpel
[06:50] <Fyodorovna> chris_0076, you look in the trash?
[06:50] <satyanash> acidrain, yes, I have seen it happen.
[06:50] <chris_0076> nothing in the trash
[06:50] <dr_willis> data worth keeping is worth backing up
[06:50] <satyanash> acidrain, Fortunately I had backup.
[06:50] <chris_0076> the files are just gone
[06:50] <satyanash> "then"
[06:51] <chris_0076> they were on the desktop ~15 mins ago... now they are not
[06:51] <Fyodorovna> chris_0076, you look at the desktop from home, if the manager crashed.
[06:51] <acidrain> satyanash: i know what you mean, i just luckily found my most recent backup of all of my files. and i am about to make like 10 more copies and hide them from myself
[06:51] <satyanash> :D
[06:51] <chris_0076> the /home/USER/Desktop is also missing the files
[06:52] <acidrain> i have to reformat, and now i have to go through the annoying eth0 wired driver issue again <_<
[06:53] <chris_0076> there were also several folders in the "files" lost, so >.>
[06:53] <satyanash> What would you suggest to backup ~50GB of files, local rsync? cp? local scp ?
[06:54] <dr_willis> depends on what you are backing to. and the files
[06:54] <satyanash> external->internal
[06:54] <satyanash> NTFS->EXT4
[06:54] <chris_0076> so, any thoughts?
[06:55] <satyanash> Files: loads of ISOs and distro disk images.
[06:55] <mohsin^> I have tried to set the switcher settings to autohide but nothing seems to be different
[06:56] <dr_willis> mohsin^: try log out and back in
[06:56] <totesmuhgoats> satyanash: some people put more confidence in the linux ntfs driver than others. i personally don't trust it. i would rather keep the ntfs disk in a windows pc and mount it via cifs if i need to access it from linux
[06:56] <mohsin^> ok
[06:56] <mohsin^> see ya soon
[06:57] <Fyodorovna> totesmuhgoats, you funny joe. :)
[06:57] <satyanash> totesmuhgoats, sure, but copying from NTFS wouldnt really matter right ? As it would be just reading from NTFS and writing to EXT4.. ?
[06:58] <dr_willis> satyanash:  not a problem
[06:58] <acidrain> ugh
[06:58] <GhostWolf> hi all, i have a question, i have looked at the website for webcam that would work well with ubuntu, should i look for ones that work with 11.10?
[06:58] <acidrain> about to drop kick linux right now
[06:58] <dr_willis> ntfs3g driver fir ntfs is very well done these days
[06:59] <solpeth> acidrain: why?
[06:59] <totesmuhgoats> satyanash: a lot of people have reported issues with ntfs in linux to me, i always used to blow them off because i got lucky until i didn't. when I had issues with it one of them was reporting incorrect file sizes
[06:59] <totesmuhgoats> which could be problematic if you want accurate file copies
[06:59]  * satyanash should've started the copying in a screen session.. ugghhh..
[06:59] <acidrain> solpeth: because when i try to install, its not giving me the option of which one of my 5 drives i want to install ubuntu to
[07:00] <solpeth> acidrain: well that's a bit annoying... doesn't the installer let you choose? I don't know, I haven't used ubuntu for years
[07:00] <dr_willis> ive had more issues with ntfs under windows then under linux. :)
[07:01] <chris_0076> so no one knows how to recover deleted files? =(
[07:01] <dr_willis> often its not possible chris_0076
[07:02] <dr_willis> !undelete
[07:02] <chris_0076> I keep seeing this program scalpel but it only seems to have configuration stuff for file types i don't need
[07:02] <chris_0076> I just need plain text
[07:05] <subone> Is it possible to keep a persistent connection of my bluetooth with my phone?
[07:05] <GhostWolf> i have a question about webcams, on this site, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras should i look for webcams that has the version 11.10 of ubuntu?
[07:06] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf   just find one that should work with ubuntu and you'll probably be fine.
[07:07] <GhostWolf> CFHowlett, well not all work with ubuntu i have an older version webcam, i have issues to use the one i have now, hence im looking to see which one i need to look for, and im using 11.10 of ubuntu. and on that site theres webcams that says older version of ubuntu
[07:09] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf  get the best match you can then ...
[07:09] <GhostWolf> CFHowlett, can you be more specific? im asking if i need to find one that shows the ubuntu version im using at this very moment
[07:10] <lolcat^> Could one disk preforming worse than another be caused by one being ext3 and the other being ntfs?
[07:12] <lilVaratep> Do you programmers out there run GVIM or VIM in terminal?
[07:13] <lilVaratep> to clarify, GVIM, or VIM in terminal
[07:15] <lilVaratep> Do you programmers out there use GVIM, or VIM in terminal?
[07:15] <GhostWolf> and CFHowlett i just want to be certain i don't want to spend money on something cause i have to go into a city thats an hour away from where i live to buy decent webcams
[07:16] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf   pretty sure there're no guaranteed webcams.  You will take a risk.  However,   http://www.matthartley.com/logitech-webcam-on-ubuntu/
[07:16] <GhostWolf> CFHowlett, the website i posted is for hardware supported webcams for ubuntu. have you even looked at it?
[07:17] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf   post the url
[07:17] <GhostWolf> CFHowlett, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:18] <cancer> bazhang: hi, sorry i left yesterday coz of some reasons.  you were asking about jockey-kde. so what now
[07:18] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf   yep, I've seen the page.  Start there.  Also, I'd strongly suggest you consider maintaining an LTS only ubuntu install - if you're upgrading every 6 months, well ...
[07:19] <GhostWolf> CFHowlett, i just upgraded to 11.10 from the upgrade manager. cause i didn't know if a toolbar for my browser was going to work, it wasn't when 11.10 first came out
[07:20] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf   understood.  As always, educate yourself as best you can, make a choice and evaluate the outcome.
[07:20] <subone> How can I keep a connection open from my ubuntu PC to my Android Phone? I want Tasker to do something when I move out of bluetooth range and it disconnects.
[07:20] <GhostWolf> CFHowlett, i do, thats why i was asking about that site with webcams, so mainly i should find the ones that say 11.10 on the ubuntu version right?
[07:20] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf   sure.
[07:21] <GhostWolf> CFHowlett, ok. i am just wondering, cause im going into the city tomorrow for other things and going to some electronic stores like bestbuy to see what they have
[07:21] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf   good luck.  By the way, have you chosen your webcam software yet?
[07:21] <cancer> i don't have Vga & audio drivers? i only can change vga resolution to 1024x768 and using Nvidia.
[07:22] <GhostWolf> CFHowlett, what you mean software? only webcam software i have is cheese if thats what you mean
[07:22] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf   guvcview
[07:22] <cancer> ne help?
[07:23] <chris_0076> GAH, this would not be so bad if I could remember what the files were
[07:23] <GhostWolf> CFHowlett, i don't. i just know i have issues with my webcam now on sites that you can chat with friends and also use your webcam, and those sites uses the flash program and as i checked lastnight i couldn't do anything with that flash setting
[07:24] <me-1> hi...how can i reduce icon size in launcher
[07:24] <chelz> is there any official way to shorten "ubuntu"? something like "ub"?
[07:25] <me-1> chelz,  shorten what
[07:25] <Fyodorovna> me-1, in the panel on the left of the desktop?
[07:25] <CFHowlett> Chel  buntu
[07:25] <CFHowlett> chelz   unofficially
[07:25] <me-1> Fyodorovna,  yes
[07:25] <chelz> me-1: shorten the name
[07:25] <chelz> CFHowlett: buntu isn't really that much shorter :P
[07:25] <Fyodorovna> me-1, you can shrink the panel in the unity plugin in ccsm.
[07:25] <cancer> i don't have Vga & audio drivers? i only can change vga resolution to 1024x768 and using Nvidia. ANY HELP?
[07:28] <cancer> Help???
[07:28] <chelz> cancer: what is the nature of your technical emergency?
[07:29] <jadoe> I'm trying to compile s2-liplianin drivers on 11.10 with kernel 3.0.0-16, I get this ( http://sprunge.us/MMCG ) error. They build fine one 10.04. This problem is also mentioned here ( http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/S2-liplianin#Kernel_3.0-3.1 ) without fix. This is not a layer 8 problem on my side, I guess? What do I do? Buy a new TV card? Use an old kernel?
[07:31] <cancer> Chelz: i have waited for 4-5 days for drivers issue and spended many hours here, Then finally what i got is to change Kubuntu from ubuntu. Now answering you question.
[07:32] <chelz> cancer: try running    krandrtray
[07:33] <X-droid> hello
[07:34] <X-droid> 这东西怎么用的
[07:37] <cancer> Chelz: krandrtray only brought trayicon. what with it?
[07:38] <Fyodorovna> !cn | X-droid
[07:39] <X-droid> 试下
[07:39] <lilVaratep> Do you programmers out there use GVIM, or VIM in terminal?
[07:39] <cancer> Chelz: ?
[07:39] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: vim
[07:39] <lilVaratep> how do you change the syntax highlighting for vim terminal?
[07:40] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: change or enable?
[07:40] <lilVaratep> i guess enable
[07:40] <lilVaratep> im new to VI/vim
[07:40] <lilVaratep> and *nix
[07:40] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: :syntax on
[07:40] <GhostWolf> meh. this is seriously not doing me any good. whats the best webcam i can use for 11.10? so for only one that i know the brand is a logitech hd webcam.
[07:40] <lilVaratep> :syntax on didn't change any colors
[07:42] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: you've installed the full vim package right?
[07:42] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: the default version on ubuntu is vim-tiny
[07:42] <lilVaratep> tiyowan: from ubuntu software center?
[07:42] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: open up a terminal and do this: sudo apt-get install vim-full
[07:43] <lilVaratep> unable to locate package tiyowan
[07:43] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: try sudo apt-get install vim
[07:43] <lilVaratep> thats how i installed vim originally
[07:44] <lilVaratep> and i also installed gvim from software center
[07:44] <lilVaratep> 'which vim': /usr/local/bin
[07:44] <lilVaratep>  /vim
[07:44] <chelz> cancer: try to change resolution
[07:44] <lilVaratep> tiyowan: do i have to set the syntax coloring somewhere first?
[07:45] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: do dpkg -l *vim
[07:45] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: is ii next to the first line that says vim?
[07:45] <lilVaratep> yes
[07:45] <cancer> How to install Nvidia Drivers. (kubuntu)
[07:45] <lilVaratep> ii  vim            2:7.3.154+hg~7 Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor
[07:45] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: type :help do you see the help files in color?
[07:46] <lilVaratep> tiyowan: its mostly red text, and some blue and stuff
[07:46] <GhostWolf> i need some advice on what webcam i need to buy, i already have one, but i am having trouble getting to work on some websites that i can chat with friends
[07:46] <airtonix> lilVaratep: i prefer to use a normal text editor instead of spending 80% of my time remember what all the arcane and obscure commands are for vi
[07:46] <lilVaratep> tiyowan: some teal in it
[07:46] <Dark|Code> zzz
[07:46] <Canadian1296> airtonix: I prefer vi.
[07:46] <lilVaratep> airtonix: i always hear from people that once you get past learning curve, it's so fast!
[07:47] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: try :syn on, :syntax on, :syntax enable
[07:47] <tiyowan> airtonix: sublime text's pretty cool too
[07:47] <airtonix> lilVaratep: once you get past the learning curve
[07:47] <airtonix> tiyowan: that's what i use.
[07:47] <Canadian1296> airtonix: It only took me like 15 minutes reading man pages and trying stuff to get past the learning curve.
[07:47] <lilVaratep> tiyowan: how do i check if the syntax is on? can i write like public class bla bla?
[07:47] <airtonix> lilVaratep: but i prefer to just start programming rather than spend an entire week learning how to use it
[07:48] <airtonix> Canadian1296: i shouldn't have to even spend an iota of my time in order to work out how to start entering text on the screen.
[07:48] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: try writing a php file - so...go into insert mode and <?php public function test()
[07:49] <cancer> Chelz: only 1024, 800, 600
[07:49] <lilVaratep> The parenthesis was highlighted green when I had the cursor next to it tiyowan
[07:49] <lilVaratep> other than that, it was all red
[07:50] <GhostWolf> CFHowlett, im still having a hard time finding any webcams that says it works with 11.10. only 2 that does ones a logitech and its a hd webcam another brand is called hercules again its a hd webcam
[07:50] <GhostWolf> if i didn't have issues with the one i have now i wouldn't be finding one that will work for websites that allow broadcasting
[07:50] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf   simple plan: install ubuntu to USB or take your laptop with you to the store.  Test the webcam in store.  Find one that works, buy it, spend your change on a round of beer
[07:50] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: do :set filetype=php
[07:51] <GhostWolf> CFHowlett, i don't have a laptop, this is a desktop pc im using
[07:51] <lilVaratep> tiyowan: there it goes
[07:51] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf   no worries.  install ubuntu to usb, boot up a computer in the store, plugin the cam and go a-calling.
[07:51] <GhostWolf> CFHowlett, i don't have a usb thumbdrive either
[07:52] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: do :filetype, is filetype detection on?
[07:52] <GhostWolf> and i don't think the stores i go to allow someone to allow that either
[07:52] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf   take a cdrom, buy a usb, etc...
[07:52] <lilVaratep> tiyowan it is on
[07:52] <lilVaratep> tiyowan plugin off indent off
[07:53] <GhostWolf> CFHowlett, and i live in usa, don't know bout you but i never heard anyone doing that or any store allowing a customer do that to test what webcam works for ubuntu
[07:53] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: you should be good to go, and for reference: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VimHowto
[07:53] <lilVaratep> tiyowan okay thanks
[07:53] <tiyowan> lilVaratep: look into sublime text as well, both of them are really good, use what works for you
[07:54] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf   please.  I live in the usa as well and if the store won't let me test, the store doesn't net a sale.  That said, go to Frye's or PC Fixx or similar.
[07:55] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf   but it you're TRULY worried, order from amazon.  Return policies tend to favor the customer...
[07:55] <GhostWolf> CFHowlett, i am planning on going to frys. but i never heard of someone letting someone bring in any os like ubuntu on disc or anything since i never see any laptops or pc's on for someone to look at. but i am going to go to frys. i guess i can just ask someone there, was also going to bestbuy
[07:55] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras  <--- GhostWolf here's a list
[07:56] <GhostWolf> bazhang, im on that site, that list is not good. only shows 2 webcams 1 from 2 different brands that mentions anything about working with 11.10
[07:56] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf   I admit, last time I booted ubuntu from a USB at Fry's, I kind of - forgot - to ask permission.
[07:57] <GhostWolf> CFHowlett, well im not someone who isn't just going to go in and do it and not ask, i don't want to end up in jail for one thing or anything of that sort cause i was doing something they don't like
[07:57] <bazhang> GhostWolf, this is getting offtopic
[07:57] <CFHowlett> GhostWolf :)
[07:58] <GhostWolf> bazhang, im not the one talking about it, im trying to get advice on how to get a webcam to work from one i already have or find what kind i can buy.
[08:02] <jadoe> If I want to use an older kernel with oneiric, can I use a precompiled one from an older ubuntu? Do I have to compile from source? What problems can I expect?
[08:03] <VP1> how to regain installed Ubuntu 10.10 when grub is overwritten by Windows install?
[08:03] <CFHowlett> !grub2|vp1
[08:04] <lilVaratep> hmm
[08:05] <vinsag> paradiso amaro
[08:05] <cancer> brb
[08:05] <cancer> bye
[08:05] <fr3e> wheres a list of terminal hotkeys? like if i want to delete everything before/after the cursor?
[08:07] <theadmin> fr3e: "bindkey" will give you the list.
[08:08] <lilVaratep> 0.0
[08:08] <Guest92235> cc
[08:09] <lilVaratep> !games
[08:09] <Guest92235> !flash
[08:10] <lilVaratep> Well, I'm about to head to bed guys...
[08:12] <lilVaratep> Good night all
[08:12] <rymate1234> hello!
[08:12] <CFHowlett> rymate1234   greetings
[08:14] <rymate1234> so I just installed windows 8
[08:14] <rymate1234> and this has uninstalled grub
[08:15] <rymate1234> is there anyway to restore it?
[08:15] <Fyodorovna> rymate1234, you can reinstall grub to the mbr.
[08:15] <rymate1234> yea
[08:15] <rymate1234> how?
[08:16] <Fyodorovna> rymate1234, you have the cd of the ubuntu install the same cd ?
[08:16] <rymate1234> yes
[08:17] <Fyodorovna> rymate1234, 3 methods here if you have the same cd the first one works if not do the chroot. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy_LiveCD_Files
[08:17] <CFHowlett> !grub2|rymate1234
[08:17] <rymate1234> thx
[08:17] <Fyodorovna> rymate1234, no problem just read carefully and run the fsidk -l to confirm the hd is still sda if that is whatit is.
[08:18] <Fyodorovna> fdisk -l doh
[08:24] <RadiumCat> hello everyone :) Is there any way i can have mac osx style font anti-aliasing on kde4.7.4? there is a tool for windows called GDI++ that does just that, i was wondering if it was possible under KDE too?
[08:26] <RadiumCat> hello?
[08:28] <dr_willis> hmm
[08:29] <shake> how does this work?
[08:29] <dr_willis> kde and gnome have some font antisliasing settings you can play with.
[08:30] <dr_willis> what work/
[08:30] <RadiumCat> yeh, i just came across it in system settings. should i set the hinting style to 'full'?
[08:31] <dr_willis> try them . see what you like
[08:31] <RadiumCat> okies!
[08:44] <Khaz> Hi, I was wanting to install ubuntu, but once I install it from my USB do I lose my previous OS?
[08:45] <CFHowlett> Khaz   you mean boot the OS or physically wipe it out?
[08:45] <crizzy> Khaz: you can choose to keep windows and dual boot
[08:46] <Khaz> Well from the official ubuntu website, it allows you to make a USB "liveCD" and then once it starts in Ubuntu it offers to install it, will it allow me to dual boot or get rid of windows?
[08:46] <dr_willis> yes
[08:46] <dr_willis> to all
[08:46] <CFHowlett> Khaz   yes it will offer you installation options - including the option to install nothing ...
[08:47] <Khaz> Okay, thank you!
[08:47] <CFHowlett> you can just test-drive ubuntu
[08:48] <Khaz> Well this whole ordeal was because I had a laptop a while back with ubuntu and it was the only thing that allowed me to use my scanner and I was hoping to get that back because there are no up to date drivers for windows.
[08:48] <CFHowlett> khaz sounds like a plan ...
[08:49] <dr_willis> but... everyone says windows has better h.w support..   ;)
[08:49] <tiyowan> dr_willis: ;)
[08:50] <dr_willis> i had to spend an hr finding windows drivers for an old wireless card
[08:50] <dr_willis> last week
[08:50] <pr0ton> how do i install ktorrent4.0 in ubuntu?
[08:51] <dr_willis> !find ktorrent
[08:51] <CFHowlett> pr0ton   ktorrent is in software center
[08:51] <pr0ton> i want 4.0
[08:51] <pr0ton> i cant add the kubuntu ppa
[08:51] <dr_willis> !info ktorrent
[08:51] <pr0ton> i'm on 10.04 iirc
[08:52] <CFHowlett> pr0ton   www.ktorren.org download/compile and install
[08:53] <CFHowlett> http://www.manast.com/2010/05/26/install-ktorrent-4-0-in-ubuntu-kubuntu-lucid/
[08:53] <pr0ton> that link doesnt work
[08:56] <zcat[1]> trying to download using a magnet link, transmission 1.93. I know how to add the link but it just says "Downloading metadata from 0 peers" forever. How do I find peers when I have no peers to find peers from?
[08:57] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install ktorrent       ;)
[08:57] <bosong> hi i just installed 11.10 on an ibm laptop. it works fine but when i boot i dont see the grub boot menu. it just boots straight into ubuntu. id like to see the grub menu.
[08:57] <CFHowlett> zcat[1]   nothing you can do = peers are volunteers who've chose to provide the material.  Check back at different times/days, maybe it'll come up.
[08:57] <ali_> hi
[08:58] <theadmin> zcat[1]: Add a couple trackers?
[08:58] <guntbert> bosong: press <shift> wile booting
[08:58] <zcat[1]> theadmin:  how?
[08:58] <CFHowlett> bosong you can edit grub settings with this  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[08:58] <bosong> guntbert ok thanks
[08:58] <zcat[1]> It's a amgnet link from the pirate bay. They don't have .torrent links, or trackers
[08:59] <zcat[1]> presumably there's some peer seedlist thing I can do, I don't know..
[08:59] <guntbert> bosong: and for getting it permanently see ^^^
[08:59] <theadmin> zcat[1]: I dunno, depends on your client
[08:59] <zcat[1]> link btw is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:812dfae2b34632cb71bcbb737b63810f6d7d4cdd&dn=Yogscast+Minecraft+adventures+-+Season+1+and+2&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80
[08:59]  * CFHowlett thinks is he TRYING to his door kicked by the feds ...
[09:00] <fabiodl> !list
[09:00] <dr_willis> minecraft cartoons?
[09:00] <zcat[1]> Uhh yeah, it's a podcast ...
[09:00] <Veovis_Muaddib> dr_willis: Minecraft youtube channel
[09:01] <Veovis_Muaddib> Publicly available
[09:01] <zcat[1]> my daughter wants it. it's not warez
[09:01] <Veovis_Muaddib> *As far as I know of course.
[09:01] <theadmin> zcat[1]: That's ubottu's reaction to !list, not to your torrent problems
[09:01] <monsterripper> mornin'
[09:01] <CFHowlett> monsterripper   greetings
[09:01] <zcat[1]> She's been watching it on youtube but we have restricted internet at home, I want to torrent it on a cheaper connection.
[09:02] <Veovis_Muaddib> theadmin: I think the list was brought up simply to bring up the warez message
[09:02] <theadmin> Veovis_Muaddib: Or we have another italian
[09:02] <theadmin> lol
[09:03] <zcat[1]> I could probably download it from youtube I guess, painfully tedious though
[09:03] <zcat[1]> I wanted help, not a bloody lecture about the sort of material I download
[09:04] <dr_willis> not really a ubuntu issue from what i read.
[09:04] <CFHowlett> dr_willis   I agree
[09:04] <guntbert> dr_willis: he left
[09:04] <ggggottto> anyone has an copy of botnet sourcecode?
[09:04] <dr_willis> guess he dident want help then
[09:05] <guntbert> !ot | ggggottto
[09:05] <ggggottto> ...:(
[09:05] <ggggottto> :)
[09:05] <CFHowlett> ggggottto   wrong channel
[09:05] <ggggottto> ....
[09:06] <ggggottto> Virtualbox, vmware, who installed the ubuntu with a higher performance?
[09:07] <CFHowlett> ggggottto   pretty much the same performance wise unless I'm mistaken
[09:07] <armaan> hi folks
[09:07] <CFHowlett> armaan   greetings
[09:07] <armaan> does anybody know about login details for oneiric-server-cloudimg-amd64
[09:07] <T_H_X> i find vbox better than vmware, audio performs better
[09:07] <ggggottto> do anyone deploy the ubunt honeypot in virtualbox?
[09:09] <fmolinero> identify Calandraca5555
[09:09] <ggggottto> i'm going to update my ubuntu to version 11, miss 10.10
[09:10] <ggggottto> but 11 is too shiny
[09:10] <dr_willis> you have an actual support question?
[09:11] <tsaknorris> what would be good backup/image creator tool (not dd) image what i can install to other hard disk too :)
[09:11] <armaan> hi folks, i was wondering how can i find login details for oneiric-server-cloudimg-amd64 ??
[09:11] <dr_willis> tsaknorris:  mondo/mindi is one
[09:12] <dr_willis> !backup
[09:14] <tsaknorris> dr_willis,  thanks, im just reading about it :)
[09:15] <trinity__> hi
[09:16] <lolcat^> Why isn't fglrx included in the iso?
[09:16] <Starn> this is probably a dumb question.. but is it possible to use a real disk partition in a VM??  like say i go to windows and wanna use ubuntu without roobting. haha
[09:16] <dr_willis> legal reasons
[09:16] <lolcat^> Why can't  you warn about it?
[09:17] <dr_willis> Starn:  possible but can damage the data
[09:17] <lolcat^> "Hey,  you can't boot a gui, install fgxlr first"
[09:17] <lolcat^> instead of a black screen saying nothing
[09:17] <dr_willis> the gpl radeon work in most cases or fallback to vesa
[09:17] <guntbert> !bug | lolcat^
[09:18] <lolcat^> guntbert: It  has been found before
[09:18] <Starn> dr_willis: which VM software do you suggest that runs on windows and ubuntu as well (opensource) that would be safest? i'm not concerned about damaging the data..
[09:18] <lolcat^> dr_willis: Screen says no signal, starting x from command line tells me it is trying to use a driver it doesn't have
[09:18] <guntbert> lolcat^: ranting here will help nothing, go help on the bug
[09:18] <dr_willis> Starn:  i only use vbox
[09:18] <Starn> dr_willis: is it fast and stable?
[09:19] <dr_willis> its all i need or use starn
[09:19] <dr_willis> !vbox
[09:19] <guntbert> Starn: virtual box support in #vbox
[09:20] <amit_> hiii.. whenever i open appearance settings, it automatically closes.. cant change wallpaper
[09:22] <spiff_> Hello, is there any way to show pending update change descriptions in a terminal? With apt-get or similar?
[09:26] <ubuntu> Hey everyone I'm sure you get tired of hearing this but I need help installing Ubuntu haha
[09:27] <ubuntu> Ran into some trouble
[09:27] <Taev> will adding an IP address to /etc/hosts.deny stop some one from being able to connect to my webserver?
[09:28] <Taev> Im being slammed by "baidu" and I want to block it, is hosts.deny that most efficient means?
[09:28] <dr_willis> theres other ways to block ips automatically
[09:28] <dr_willis> fail2ban. and others
[09:29] <dr_willis> !info fail2ban
[09:29] <Taev> Will hosts.deny work?
[09:29] <Pideras2> hi
[09:29] <dr_willis> Taev:  not rlsure these days
[09:30] <snow_usa> hi
[09:30] <dr_willis> hosts.deny is old skool. may not work with all services
[09:30] <Pideras2> hello, can someone help me with that problem ? can't fix it for ages. screenshot - http://bitsy.me/img4dy
[09:30] <ubuntu> So I installed Ubuntu and it all went well. I even rebooted the first time and it worked fine. Now when I boot I just get a blank screen. Im running off the disk right now.
[09:30] <snow_usa> I upgrade my ubuntu -- but some how the X is not accessible --- is there any way to see if the upgrade has finished?
[09:30] <_k4> You can add apache directives to limit access.
[09:31] <snow_usa> -- by command-line
[09:31] <Taev> Will it work with Apache?
[09:32] <snow_usa> I upgrade my ubuntu -- but some how the X is not accessible --- is there any way to see if the upgrade has finished? by command line ?
[09:33] <_k4> snow_usa: run apt-get and try to install something.
[09:33] <_k4> It will fail if upgrades are still running.
[09:33] <_k4> Also ps -e | grep dpkg might tell you.
[09:34] <bigeye> Hello. I have a question. I'm using ubuntu 10.04 now, but I can't hear any sound through hdmi cable. It works with the headphone. What should I check first?
[09:34] <snow_usa> dpkg still runs
[09:34] <_k4> snow_usa: So ps -e shows dpkg???
[09:34] <snow_usa> _k4, but it's almost 1.5  hour already
[09:34] <dr_willis> not all hdmi audio is supported by all the video card drivers
[09:35] <_k4> OK
[09:35] <snow_usa> _k4, yes
[09:35] <_k4> ps -ef might tell you what's going on.
[09:35] <_k4> Do you have a second system on your LAN?
[09:36] <bigeye> dr_willis: that's too bad. but my video card is from NVIDIA.
[09:37] <Taev> well that apparently failed
[09:37] <Taev> baidu is still hammering my website looking for non existent pages 10 times every minute
[09:38] <_k4> bigeye: click on your speaker an select sound preferences at the bottom.  Go to hardware and see if there is a device.
[09:38] <_k4> Taev: what failed
[09:38] <spiff_> Taev: Most probably a noob q, but what is baidu?
[09:38] <Taev> i tried listing their IPs in /etc/hosts.deny
[09:38] <Lord_Phoenix> Hello guys, a quick question to get an understanding: Why on my Lenovo T61 with inter gma915 I can play 1080p video in vlc and it's lagging as hell on my media pc with nVidia ION even if I play it locally? :(
[09:38] <Taev> a chinese search engine
[09:38] <djesurun1> hello ubuntu!
[09:39] <spiff_> Taev, ok.
[09:39] <Taev> it failed
[09:39] <_k4> Taev  understandable
[09:39] <Taev> is there a specific ban file for apache2 somewhere?
[09:40] <bigeye> _k4: There is only one device named "Internal Audio". But I think it is not the one which I'm finding.
[09:40] <snow_usa> _k4, now there is no dpkg
[09:40] <snow_usa> but still can not apt-get install
[09:40] <_k4> Taev: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/access.html
[09:40] <dr_willis> hosts.deny is only used i recall by some services. i thibk its an outdated way to block stuff
[09:41] <_k4> bigeye: I'm guessing there is no driver for it.
[09:41] <_k4> snow_usa: what error message?
[09:42] <snow_usa> _k4, some other process is using it
[09:42] <_k4> bigeye: it being your hdmi card.
[09:43] <Taev> so is mod_authz_host a file?
[09:44] <_k4> No mod_authz is an apache module.
[09:45] <Taev> ok how do I make changes to it then?
[09:45] <snow_usa> _k4, the process using it is oneiric
[09:45] <athit> Hi,
[09:45] <snow_usa> ;)
[09:45] <snow_usa> and update-man
[09:46] <bigeye> _k4: I downloaded the nvidia driver in the nvidia homepage and it doesn't work. so I installing the package named 'nvidia-current' and I'will test it now.
[09:46] <_k4> snow_usa: Wierd
[09:47] <Beatbox_Hero> anyone know where I can find some helping getting ubuntu to boot?
[09:47] <dr_willis> been best to test the drivers i  the repos first
[09:47] <dr_willis> Beatbox_Hero:  depends on the issue
[09:48] <Evilkiss> Hi, all!
[09:48] <Evilkiss> Need help
[09:48] <_k4> Taev: first you have to get/build the module.  Then you have to add directives to your apache configuration.  See http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/access.html
[09:48] <Beatbox_Hero> I have installed Ubuntu from a liveCD. Everything went great. Even rebooted the first time and everything worked. But now when I boot into Ubuntu
[09:48] <Beatbox_Hero> it just gives me a blank screen
[09:49] <Beatbox_Hero> Tried Boot Repair. Didn't work. tried safe mode. Nothing.
[09:49] <Beatbox_Hero> sound easy to fix? haha
[09:49] <Evilkiss> What driver answer for reading from usb port, if there is connected keypad
[09:50] <Evilkiss> Beatbox_Hero: I thinks it is driver issue
[09:50] <dr_willis> Beatbox_Hero:  yiu mean no grub.. or no x display
[09:50] <Evilkiss> Beatbox_Hero: video driver i mean
[09:51] <_k4> Taev: or you might try adding the "deny from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" directive into the <Directory /var/www/> section of your apache conf file and restart apache.
[09:51] <Beatbox_Hero> that would make sense. The last thing I did before turning it off is install an Nvidia driver
[09:51] <Beatbox_Hero> Easy fix for that?
[09:51] <Beatbox_Hero> dr_willis: no x display
[09:52] <Beatbox_Hero> I get to grub and select ubuntu. then blank screen of death...
[09:52] <sattu94> Beatbox_Hero: how long did you wait ?
[09:52] <dr_willis> so its a config x  driver issue not a grub issue
[09:52] <Beatbox_Hero> a while. plus im sure that something has gone wrong. my keyboard doesnt respond to things
[09:52] <Beatbox_Hero> correct
[09:53] <Evilkiss> Beatbox_Hero: You need to reboot to non-graphical mode and there uninstall your NVIDIA driver and install default driver
[09:53] <Beatbox_Hero> I used boot repair. So grub should be good
[09:53] <Beatbox_Hero> that sound fun. Should I just google what you said? or is it easy to explain?
[09:53] <_k4> Beatbox_Hero: while in grub, edit the command line and remove the "quiet" from the kernel line.
[09:54] <_k4> You may see errors or at least figure out how far it's getting.
[09:54] <dr_willis> or use the text option to get a console login
[09:54] <Beatbox_Hero> I have an error code that it gets too and then stops
[09:54] <dr_willis> noquiet nosplash text
[09:54] <_k4> From that then you can decide if it's a graphical problem.
[09:54] <_k4> dr_willis: Yes
[09:55] <Beatbox_Hero> I apologize but you guys are way faster then me at this
[09:55] <Beatbox_Hero> in grub how do I get to edit the command line?
[09:55] <dr_willis> c key
[09:56] <dr_willis> or e fir edit
[09:56] <_k4> Beatbox_Hero: I think it's e but the instructions are right there.
[09:56] <Beatbox_Hero> Ha guess i will open my eyes and read it in grub then. Thanks so much guys. cross your fingers for me.
[09:57] <_k4> Beatbox_Hero: http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2007/05/ubuntu-how-to-edit-grub-boot-parameters.html
[09:57] <James_KL> hello , installing Ubuntu , gives that error x86_64 : http://bitsy.me/img4dy - WTF?
[09:57] <Beatbox_Hero> thanks!
[09:57] <_k4> I don't read russian.
[09:58] <_k4> James_KL: Take your ads elsewhere.
[09:59] <James_KL> ads ??
[09:59] <dr_willis> at least summmarize the error
[09:59] <_k4> When I went to that site, I got an obnoxious image in Russian (I think) but nothing else.
[10:02] <nc__> ??
[10:02] <dr_willis> hmm
[10:03] <James_KL> hello , installing Ubuntu , gives that error x86_64 : http://bitsy.me/img4dy - WTF?
[10:03] <_k4> James_KL: That link is garbage.  What is the error?
[10:04] <James_KL> no disk space
[10:04] <dr_willis> you are not installing 64bit os on a 32 machine are yiu
[10:04] <_k4> lol
[10:05] <_k4> I would say maybe you don't have enough disk space.  Did you let it do automatic partitioning?
[10:06] <nc__> 谁有LINUX下的JDK？
[10:06] <dr_willis> !java
[10:07] <James_KL> hello , installing Ubuntu , gives that error x86_64 : http://bitsy.me/img4dy - WTF?
[10:07] <nc__> who have jdk for linux??
[10:07] <Steevca> Can i get the support for ubuntu 8.04 here?
[10:08] <_k4> Is James_KL  a bot?  He doesn't seem to want to answer questions just paste a garbage link.
[10:08] <_k4> Steevca: you'll never know unless you ask a question.  :)
[10:08] <dr_willis> nc__:  read the java info above
[10:09] <James_KL> _k4 omg ??
[10:09] <Evilkiss> Don't answer to James....it's give you a garbage
[10:09] <dr_willis> ponies
[10:09] <_k4> Evilkiss: can you kick him?
[10:09] <Steevca> _k4: I am just asking because i have find out that the drivers for my graphic card are supported with this version of ubuntu.
[10:10] <dr_willis> !8.04
[10:10] <Evilkiss> _k4: I'm not a mod
[10:10] <_k4> Steevca: go ahead and ask the question.  Worst case is no one knows the answer.
[10:10] <nc__> java jdk 1.6
[10:10] <nc__> who have??
[10:10] <Steevca> The question is how good is 8.04 and can i use it without the problems today?
[10:10] <dr_willis> !java | nc__
[10:11] <_k4> Yes, it is still supported until 2013
[10:11] <_k4> Security fixes are still being put into 8.04
[10:11] <liuyun> /
[10:11] <rymate1234> hey
[10:11] <Steevca> _k4: Ok,thanks.
[10:11] <dr_willis> Steevca:  i wouldent. depends on whats its doing and the hardware
[10:11] <JamesK> hello , installing Ubuntu , gives that error x86_64 : http://bitsy.me/img4dy - WTF?
[10:11] <_k4> You might find that some newer hardware might need drivers that aren't there however.
[10:11] <rymate1234> can I have some help with dual booting ubuntu and windows 8?
[10:12] <_k4> Is there someone that can kick this spammer off?
[10:12] <rymate1234> it seems grub does not recognise windows 8
[10:13] <_k4> I would say that's a good thing, rymate1234
[10:13] <nc__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java     i don't open
[10:13] <rymate1234> _k4: i want to try windows 8 :P
[10:13] <dr_willis> add an entry for it in /etc/grub.d/40_custome  perhaps
[10:14] <rymate1234> how?
[10:14] <rymate1234> :P
[10:14] <dr_willis> !grub
[10:14] <_k4> nc__: It opens for me OK. What error do you get?
[10:14] <Steevca> _k4: The thing is that i am now on linux mint 12,and i have came across this : These cards are supported with the legacy ATI 9-3 Catalyst release, but you MUST use a kernel 2.6.28 (or earlier) and Xserver 1.5 (or earlier).
[10:14] <_k4> Steevca: Ah...
[10:15] <nc__> this is china
[10:15] <Steevca> So 9-3 drivers are supporting my card but i think that mint is useng higher kernel and xserver.
[10:15] <m-ismail> how can i create a free ubuntu account?
[10:15] <_k4> Steevca: Well you can try 8.04.  Yes, Mint 12 is much later.
[10:16] <_k4> nc__: OK I see.
[10:17] <_k4> nc__: Install the openjdk-6-jre package using any installation method.
[10:17] <nc__> no
[10:17] <_k4> e.g apt-get synaptic or aptitude
[10:17] <kishon> how to move the unity launcher (dash) to the bottom of the screen in ubuntu 11.10
[10:18] <_k4> nc__: No as in it doesn't work?
[10:18] <Steevca> _k4: Maybe i can try to install them with some minor problems or reductions? .I am not really familiar with linux yet,just started using them.
[10:18] <tapas> hi, i wonder how to get this nvidia gt220 card to work..
[10:18] <_k4> Steevca: Install what?
[10:18] <nc__> Chromium 无法加载网页，因为 help.ubuntu.com 太长时间没有响应。网站可能已下线，或您的 Internet 连接可能有问题。
[10:18] <Steevca> The 9-3 drivers. :P
[10:19] <_k4> Steevca: probably won't work since you need to downgrade the kernel too.
[10:19] <nc__> K4,OK    thanks
[10:19] <dr_willis> try the latest and see uf the gpl drivers work
[10:19] <Steevca> :S I seriosly need to buy a new pc. >.<
[10:20] <_k4> Steevca: Yes.... might help.
[10:20] <Steevca> But that will happen in about 2 years. xD
[10:20] <_k4> I'm surprised there aren't newer drivers.
[10:21] <Steevca> Ati droped the support for my card in 9-4
[10:21] <dr_willis> newer gpl drivers may work
[10:21] <Steevca> I have tryed with the latest ones but the problem is that when is want to open CCC it reports that no drivers are installed.
[10:21] <ubuntu> bogus
[10:21] <dr_willis> ccc?
[10:22] <Steevca> Catalyst Control Center
[10:22] <_k4> What is Catalyst?
[10:22] <dr_willis> because with the gpl driveres you dont use ccc
[10:22] <crizzy> _k4: ati drivers
[10:22] <_k4> OK
[10:23] <_k4> So what is it about gpl drivers you don't like?
[10:23] <crizzy> unacceptable performance
[10:23] <Steevca> dr_willis:  I am using gpl drivers now,but the problem is that my monitor is undetecetd,i have to "force" the 1152x864 resolution with xrandr,and i am having some problems making xorg load it on boot.
[10:24] <crizzy> gpl drivers also still don't even support VBO's so they can never perform well with games
[10:24] <crizzy> quality is very sub-par
[10:24] <dr_willis> that old a system is going to suck at games anyway
[10:24] <Steevca> It's not the games that i have problems with,i don't play them.
[10:25] <crizzy> well, for old systems open driver is fine
[10:26] <kishon> you know which pdf reader can read the pdf for me?
[10:27] <dr_willis> severAal readers in the repos
[10:27] <_k4> Steevca: Google for your specific card and xorg.conf  Maybe someone will have published the right config for you.  Getting the modeline et all is a real PITA.
[10:27] <dr_willis> !pdf
[10:27] <Steevca> The problems i am having is with speed,resolution and i can't use some software like blender.
[10:29] <Steevca> _k4 Can you give me the terminal commands for removing fglrx.
[10:29] <Steevca> Compleatly.
[10:29] <dr_willis> test out latest beta. file bugs. ;)
[10:29] <tapas> btw: how well are ATI cards supported these days?
[10:29] <Halexander9000> Hi! I just installed Limbo, the video game, and when I first executed the program in WINE, it gave me this error message: "Video card is below system requirement. You need a video card with at least Shader Model 3.0"
[10:29] <dr_willis> depends on age of card and versiobs of stuff
[10:29] <_k4> Steevca: Not for sure.  aptitude purge fglrx might work.
[10:30] <tapas> dr_willis: oh ok.. so i might still fare better with an nvidia card.. current, but low end (passively cooled)
[10:30] <Halexander9000> Can someone please help me figure this out, or if it's even possible to run the game on Ubuntu on a 2008 ASUS EEE PC 904HD?
[10:30] <seshagiri> Which all packages(including GUI applications) should be removed to have a console based Ubuntu. i.e no GUI at all?
[10:31] <_k4> seshagiri: if I were doing it, I'd reinstall with the Ubuntu server CD/DVD
[10:31] <dr_willis> !text
[10:31] <aatish> hi can anybody tell me that how can i run Dreamviwer in ubuntu
[10:32] <dr_willis> no need to remove anything. ;)
[10:32] <_k4> aatish: I never got it to work with Wine but that was a while back.  It's not a trivial exercise.
[10:32] <seshagiri> I also want to save some space also
[10:32] <seshagiri> *sorry for the typos
[10:32] <Wingede> anyone had success with macbook pro and efi disabling the discrete graphics?
[10:33] <aatish> coz i read somewhere that with wine we can _k4
[10:33] <_k4> aatish: have you tried it?
[10:33] <damo22> Wingede, i have installed efi native linux
[10:33] <aatish> no exctly
[10:33] <_k4> aatish: so try it.
[10:33] <Halexander9000> Hi! I just installed Limbo, the video game, and when I first executed the program in WINE, it gave me this error message: "Video card is below system requirement. You need a video card with at least Shader Model 3.0"
[10:33] <Halexander9000> Can someone please help me figure this out, or if it's even possible to run the game on Ubuntu on a 2008 ASUS EEE PC 904HD?
[10:33] <aatish> but want to do that coz now i want to shift 100% with ubuntu from win
[10:34] <_k4> aatish: And let us know how it works.
[10:34] <Wingede> dam022: on mac platform? as I can see both video cards, just trying to get the powerful one disabled, otherwise chews battery
[10:34] <aatish> _k4 : i'll try to that , can you tell me how can change the color the tst
[10:34] <aatish> text
[10:34] <_k4> aatish: Of what text?
[10:34] <Steevca> I am definetly ****** xD Sorry for the language. xD
[10:34] <_raven> 11.10 + xfce - how to autologin graphically?
[10:35] <damo22> Wingede, yes, on mac, but im not sure what commands disable discrete gfx
[10:35] <aatish> k4: in chat
[10:35] <monser> hello all
[10:35] <aatish> k4 : like ur color is brown
[10:35] <aatish> k4 : like some haveing green color in chat
[10:35] <monser> how can i find text in a file? I tried grep -r "mytext" *
[10:36] <Wingede> dam022, ahh ok, will keep trying - my one gets darn hot quickly :(
[10:36] <monser> but it does not work
[10:36] <theadmin> _raven: What display manager are you using?: ls /etc/init.d/*dm
[10:36] <_k4> aatish: what client?
[10:36] <aatish> k4 : o sorry in chat windows where chatting
[10:36] <_raven> theadmin gdm
[10:36] <_k4> Chatting using what software?
[10:36] <theadmin> monser: sudo grep -RHF "text" /
[10:36] <_k4> I assume you are talking about IRC client of some kind.
[10:37] <monser> ok I'll try it
[10:37] <aatish> k4 : i m using xchat on ubuntu
[10:37] <theadmin> _raven: http://codintips.blogspot.com/2009/06/ubuntu-gdm-auto-login.html
[10:38] <Steevca> I am geting this when i run the LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo , http://pastebin.com/VExgCY0T ,i get slow and none,is that normal?
[10:38] <_k4> OK aatish check out the faq http://xchat.org/faq/#q27
[10:38] <aatish> ok tx
[10:39] <monser> I'm looking for the file that it is used to set up the mac address of the network card - to change it on every boot
[10:39] <monser> the grep command it looks like it will take ages to complete
[10:39] <monser> do you know what file it is used for that?
[10:40] <theadmin> monser: That's a hardware property, it's not really stored anywhere, it's on the network card itself
[10:40] <monser> man
[10:40] <_raven> theadmin gdm.conf is empty right?
[10:40] <monser> you do not understand me
[10:40] <monser> I can change the mac address with a command
[10:40] <theadmin> monser: I know, yes, that fakes it
[10:40] <monser> and put that command in a file to get executed on every boot
[10:40] <theadmin> monser: Put it in /etc/rc.local
[10:40] <monser> so where is that file stored
[10:40] <_k4> Sounds like monser is up to no good.
[10:41] <_raven> theadmin ok but this does not do an autologin too
[10:42] <theadmin> _raven: It does
[10:42] <_raven> theadmin i tried that - no
[10:42] <theadmin> _k4: Certain ISPs restrict connections to a specific MAC address, and (s)he might have had a network card change.
[10:42] <slainbybeats> jo
[10:42] <monser> so no help?
[10:42] <slainbybeats> kde works
[10:42] <slainbybeats> :D
[10:43] <dr_willis> monser:  put command in rc.local
[10:43] <theadmin> monser: I just said, put your command in /etc/rc.local. IMPORTANT: if your command uses sudo, DO NOT put sudo in front of it!
[10:43] <_k4> theadmin: OK
[10:43] <monser> ok thank you
[10:44] <monser> THANK YOU!
[10:44] <_k4> theadmin: But I got the impression it was going to be different each time.
[10:44] <_k4> theadmin: I guess that's not ghe case.
[10:44] <theadmin> monser: No problem
[10:50] <slainbybeats> KDE is killer!
[10:50] <slainbybeats> damn i love this 1000 times more than unity
[10:52] <hemza> could not have access to GUI desktop in Kubunut 10110
[10:52] <slainbybeats> i have it
[10:52] <slainbybeats> kubuntu 11.10
[10:53] <slainbybeats> the biggest problem keeping me on windows is still itunes.
[10:53] <dr_willis> itunes... ha. ;)
[10:53] <slainbybeats> ? :D
[10:54] <slainbybeats> i paid enough for my ipod, now i want to be able to use it! :D
[10:55] <slainbybeats> afk
[10:55] <dr_willis> sucker born every..... kidding
[10:55] <JonathanEllis> Good morning. I am trying to install ubuntu 11-10 from the live cd into a separate partition alongside jaunty and windows. During install I get the message "Failed to unmount partitions. migration assistant needs to mount a partition, but cannot do so because the following mount point could not be unmounted: /dev/sda8 Please close any application using these mount points. Would you like migration-assistant to try to unmount these part
[10:55] <slainbybeats> which OS are you using on your computer?
[10:55] <fat> Hi all. anybody know why my print screen button wont work with lubuntu 10 10?
[10:56] <oCean> slainbybeats: chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel is for ubuntu technical issues only
[10:56] <slainbybeats> ah k, sorry, i didnt know
[10:56] <oCean> fat: maybe try /join #lubuntu  ...it's the Lubuntu specific channel
[10:56] <JonathanEllis> Trouble is, when I click Continue. I just get the same message. I have asked it not to import settings from Jaunty (which is on /dev/sda8) but it makes no difference. Help! Please
[10:56] <fat> cheers
[10:57] <Shojo> JonathanEllis:  are you running the cd in boot mode?
[10:58] <theadmin> fat: Try installing a screenshot tool (e.g. import, scrot, xfce4-screenshooter or somesuch) and assigning it to printscreen
[10:58] <JonathanEllis> Shojo: Yes, I booted from the CD and then selected "Install Ubuntu", followed by "Do something else" as I wanted to specify a separate home and root partition
[10:59] <Shojo> i understand. Check if the /dev/sda8 is encrypted or a dynamic partition
[10:59] <JonathanEllis> Shojo: sda8 is not encrypted. It is just a logical partition with Jaunty installed on it
[11:00] <JonathanEllis> Shojo: I dont use encryption
[11:02] <Shojo> Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) is NOT an LTS (Long Term Support) release and is no longer supported with security updates (as of October 2010). It is recommended to upgrade to the current version of Ubuntu.
[11:02] <JonathanEllis> Shojo: Yes I know. Thats why I am installing 11-10
[11:02] <Shojo> you might consider backing up the Jaunty files and deleting it
[11:03] <JonathanEllis> Shojo: But I  want a working OS before I delete the old one. I have had problems with upgrading before so I always do a parallel install, get that working and then when I am satisfied everything is OK I delete the old one. Since its on a separate partition it shouldnt be an issue
[11:04] <JonathanEllis> Shojo: Of course since migration assistant is trying to access it to import user accounts, it would probably do the same thing if I had another linux distro on another partition
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> jaunty?
[11:05] <JonathanEllis> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 9-04 was called Jaunty Jackalope
[11:05] <remsSs> Hi everybody
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> i know that
[11:05] <JonathanEllis> MonkeyDust: What is your question then?
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> i was surprised someody still uses it ;)
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> b
[11:06] <Mech0z> what is the reason my computer boots into busybox
[11:06] <Mech0z> can I launch "real" ubuntu from that?
[11:08] <JonathanEllis> MonkeyDust: Oh I see. Well, when I tried to upgrade to 9-10 it failed because of some graphics incompatibility that I could never fix so I just stayed with Jaunty. Now I want to try upgrading again as you rightly point out, jaunty is a bit long in the tooth. My other computer is running 8-10, I think or 8-04 for similar reasons
[11:10] <Shojo> can't you just lookup your graphic requirements and match them up with your system's configuration?
[11:11] <Shojo> i mean all the requirements...not only graphical
[11:15] <JonathanEllis> Shojo: Sounds so easy! Basically when I tried to install 9-10, the screen on my laptop went unreadable with large random strips of colour during install. I was never able to find out why (despite spending many hours trying so I gave up). I figured by now, perhaps whatever was causing that issue might have been fixed in the latest version. Besides, as you rightly point out, my version is no longer supported so its sensible for me to in
[11:16] <JonathanEllis> Shojo: I have found this information http://askubuntu.com/questions/88704/failed-to-unmount-partitions-during-installation-ubuntu-11-10/109648#109648 which is all very well but it strikes me that the live cd might be a bit buggy if the "Install ubuntu" option fails in this way
[11:17] <Mech0z_> how do I boot into ubuntu from easybox? (No reason why it boots into that)
[11:33] <UnknownArtists> hi, is it possible to mix using aptitude and apt-get? are they compatible?
[11:33] <anamfaridi> hi
[11:33] <warhell> lol
[11:33] <LjL> UnknownArtists: yes
[11:34] <UnknownArtists> thank you :D
[11:34] <gvo> UnknownArtists: I do it all the time.
[11:34] <Mech0z_> how do I see what ubuntu is doing at the bootup screen
[11:34] <Mech0z_> its just purple
[11:34] <karthick87> How to change the default mp3 player in firefox ?
[11:34] <anamfaridi> dont quit
[11:34] <dr_willis> !text
[11:34] <_raven> 11.10 xfce - still no success with autologin gdm
[11:35] <Captain_Proton> Mech0z_, as it booting hit ctrl+alt +f2
[11:35] <anamfaridi> how to connect to internet?
[11:35] <dr_willis> Mech0z_:  the grub options  nofb nosplash text   may be handy
[11:35] <Jordan_U> Mech0z_: If you select the "recovery mode" entry at the grub menu you'll get detailed boot output. You'll also get a recovery menu, but you can continue past that.
[11:35] <Mech0z_> well I dont know what it is doing
[11:35] <Mech0z_> its just pruple screen, and I am not sure if I can reboot
[11:36] <anamfaridi> thnx for telling
[11:36] <dr_willis> _raven:  perhaps its using lightdm
[11:36] <warhell> am i stupid for doing a 12.04 lts beta 1 upgrade from ubuntu 11.10
[11:36] <dr_willis> warhell:  you tell us...
[11:36] <Captain_Proton> karthick87, tools>preferences> applications
[11:36] <warhell> i think i will be alright
[11:36] <dr_willis> 12.04 is working here
[11:37] <_raven> dr_willis i had the choice between lightdm and gdm
[11:37] <warhell> my laptop ran alpha 2 for a bit
[11:37] <gvo> Probably not stupid if you didn't overwrite your previous install.
[11:37] <pippo> ebay
[11:37] <dr_willis> _raven:  try them both perhaps. bbl
[11:37] <warhell> i have a custom kernel i made for it and it uses exact same verison as beta 1
[11:37] <karthick87> Captain_Proton: How to reset it to default player?
[11:37] <warhell> lol
[11:38] <warhell> because i pulled off precises's source
[11:38] <Captain_Proton> karthick87, go there you need to change the app by format
[11:41] <didi> How do I make a usb bootable from a Debian box? I do not have usb-creator.
[11:42] <Captain_Proton> didi, unetbooten
[11:42] <didi> Captain_Proton: Thank you.
[11:42] <Captain_Proton> didi, should be in the repos
[11:43] <didi> Captain_Proton: It is indeed.
[11:44] <warhell> dr
[11:44] <warhell> how is the beta 1 vs alpha 2?
[11:44] <warhell> on your oppinon more stable?
[11:45] <Mech0z_> how can I see if a raid5 is degraded
[11:45] <Mech0z_> it works fine, but it complained at boot
[11:45] <karthick87> Captain_Proton: Its not getting changed
[11:45] <Captain_Proton> warhell, about the same add more publish and closing bugs
[11:46] <Captain_Proton> karthick87, did you restart firefox?
[11:46] <warhell> ...
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> any package for rss in indicator session?
[11:46] <warhell> thats not so good
[11:46] <warhell> when is it gonna be released stable?
[11:50] <Captain_Proton> warhell, a month I think. I have been running 12.04 since alpha 1 it been stable for me. I few issues here and there but they were fix that day
[11:50] <warhell> thats cool
[11:50] <warhell> so even if i do update through this it will pretty soon hit stable.
[11:51] <Aiden> Currently have an ongoing problem that's really frustrating, could anyone help me with this? can anyone help me with this problem? it's been happening for a while now and i'd love for it to be fixed http://puu.sh/9J8n
[11:51] <warhell> cool, i got pretty much the answers i needed, if you don't mind i will idle and chat if okay, till its done
[11:52] <Layke2> Is there some setting I accidentally made. When I view certain pages, (I think they have flash on), or something that goes fullscreen, the entire page darkens, and go black. As if it's trying to do some cinema lightbox to darken something.
[11:52] <oCean> Aiden: don't post such sillyness here
[11:52] <Aiden> http://puu.sh/9J8n
[11:52] <Aiden> http://puu.sh/9J8n
[11:52] <Aiden> http://puu.sh/9J8n
[11:52] <FloodBot1> Aiden: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:52] <Captain_Proton> I say kick him
[11:52] <theadmin> oCean: It's an obvious spammer. Ignore it, or inform the ops.
[11:52] <theadmin> Owait
[11:53] <gumus> hi
[11:53] <Captain_Proton> glad my kid did not see that when I click she be scared to sleep for a week
[11:53] <MasterP> How do I use RSA/DSA Authenication for SSH
[11:53] <theadmin> Hey gumus
[11:54] <gumus> can anyone help me with subtitle transcoding? I don't remember the exact command
[11:54] <gumus> iso8859-9 to utf-8 for example
[11:54] <bosongg> how do i change my mouse cursor to black ?
[11:55] <chroot> how to start using aircrack-ng in ubuntu
[11:55] <warhell> lol
[11:55] <MasterP> How do I use RSA/DSA Authenication for SSH
[11:56] <Captain_Proton> bosong, install ubuntu tweak and change it in there
[11:57] <theadmin> gumus: iconv -f from_encoding -t to_encoding -o output_file input_file
[11:59] <Steevca> Can anyone help me with,is it possible that this will work with mint 12,i know that this isn't support for mint but i am only asking for opinion. http://pastebin.com/a4NYSMux
[12:00] <theadmin> gumus: In your case: iconv -f ISO8859-9 -t UTF8 -o bar foo
[12:01] <karthick87> Captain_Proton: Still its not working pls find the screenshot http://i.imgur.com/2JFt7.png
[12:03] <Jordan_U> !mint | Steevca
[12:05] <karthick87> Sometimes switching on capslock types the letter in smaller case. what may be the issue?
[12:06] <Mech0z_> apparently my raid5 has a failed disk (Dont think the disk is dead, just a reboot error) how do I add a disk to the raid so its not bad anymore?
[12:07] <Captain_Proton> will if it raid 5 just replace it and the raid will rebuild it by it self
[12:07] <Mech0z_> how do I list what disks a raid5 contains
[12:07] <Mech0z_> then I might be able to fix it
[12:08] <Captain_Proton> karthick87, I looked it just a pic of a web player
[12:08] <crizzy> Mech0z_: http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Austausch_einer_defekten_Festplatte_im_Software-RAID/en this might give some clues
[12:08] <encrypt> Any ideas why my fresh installation of kubuntu 11.10 keeps hanging during the first system upgrade?
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> Mech0z_  i'm not really familiar with raid, but start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid
[12:08] <karthick87> Captain_Proton: I just want to change that web player to the default one
[12:10] <encrypt> hi, i'm installling kubuntu on a separate partition, version 11.10. first log in, running the package manager to upgrade and it hangs in the middle of the upgrading - too long for the largest package one might find in the repositories. I have to force to quit the application and when restarting the system the Network Manager doesn't recognize any wireless device, no internet.
[12:10] <Captain_Proton> karthick87, sorry I thought you want change the play to vlc or something. I do not know what that from maybe some one else knows
[12:11] <Dr_willis> encrypt,  id try updateing/upgradeing via the command line to look for error messages. It could be the servers are just overloaded right now with the release of 12.04 beta1
[12:12] <encrypt> but now i can't connect to the internet via wireless!!
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> !bcm
[12:13] <warhell> unity installing again
[12:13] <warhell> doh
[12:13] <MasterP> How do I use RSA/DSA Authenication for SSH
[12:13] <warhell> gonna have to uninstall later
[12:13] <Dr_willis> !ssh
[12:13] <gumus> hi all
[12:14] <MasterP> Dr_willis:  I got that I'm trying to make the user with DSA/RSA file
[12:14] <gumus> what's the command for converting the format of subtitle files?
[12:14] <encrypt> would it be possibe to get my wireless devices back? runinng iwconfig shows only the ethernet device, even im using a usb wireless (appart from the laptop's)
[12:15] <theadmin> gumus: I told you already.
[12:15] <theadmin> gumus: iconv -f ISO8859-9 -t UTF8 -o bar foo
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> encrypt  maybe you need wpa supplicant
[12:15] <gumus> theadmin: I guess ı lost the connection at that time.
[12:15] <gumus> I get an error
[12:15] <gumus> iconv: illegal input sequence at position 48
[12:15] <mosno> how to i turn off the on-screen keyboard on the gnome shell screen lock screen?
[12:16] <Ri_O> hello..i've some  driver display problem nvidia geforce GT 520 M (ubuntu 11.10).. i've activated it from additional driver but itz still not working.... how can i fix this...!!! help..
[12:16] <Captain_Proton> encrypt, do you have a eth connectioin yoiu can use for a min? if so coonect run from term sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:19] <calico> what is the best private email provider to move to from gmail
[12:19] <fruitbag> Hi.
[12:20] <oCean> calico: how is that an ubuntu issue?
[12:20] <calico> just asking
[12:20] <oCean> calico: maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:21] <Captain_Proton> calico, sudo apt-get install postfix dovecot
[12:21] <Ri_O> hello... can u name me a place ...to ask about my nvidia graphic driver?
[12:21] <saju_m> doubt in parse the command line parameters http://dpaste.com/710949/
[12:21] <Captain_Proton> install roundcube
[12:21] <Captain_Proton> what it doing
[12:21] <Captain_Proton> Ri_O, whats it doing
[12:22] <fruitbag> Guys, I'm trying to install Quake 3 Arena demo on Xubuntu. When I enter 'sh linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh', a window pops up with the name "Quake III Arena Demo" and the message "Warning: unknown mime-type for "-r" -- using "application/octet-stream"
[12:22] <fruitbag> What could the problem be?
[12:22] <jrib> fruitbag: make it executable and run ./linuxq3... instead
[12:23] <Dr_willis> fruitbag,  or try 'bash whatever.sh'
[12:23] <beatboxhero> Dr_willis: Thanks for your help! Everything is working for me now
[12:23] <Dr_willis> fruitbag,  could be its using some old options for the dialog box's -   if thats the official id version of q3 demo. then its quiet old..
[12:24] <Dr_willis> theres quake3 thats playable in your browser now a days. :)
[12:24] <fruitbag> I get the same problem.
[12:24] <fruitbag> So, this version of Quake 3 Arena Demo is too old?
[12:24] <Captain_Proton> fruitbag, also try to unzip it first. gz = gunzip
[12:25] <fruitbag> Captain_Proton, it's a shell script.
[12:25] <Dr_willis> fruitbag,  its a self extracting/executable script i imagine.
[12:25] <Captain_Proton> can you just run ./linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh
[12:26] <Dr_willis> and i imagine its VERY old.
[12:26] <Dr_willis> if it came from the id pages.
[12:26] <fruitbag> Dr_willis, I got it from fileplanet.com
[12:26] <fruitbag> I've tried that too, Captain_Proton. I get the same window and messages.
[12:27] <Dr_willis> !find quake3
[12:27] <Dr_willis> fruitbag,  id find one of the redone versions of q3. :) like the above
[12:27] <Dr_willis> !info ioquake3
[12:27] <fruitbag> Just out of curiosity. Is it possible to make any modification to the version of Quake 3 Arena I've downloaded to make it runnable?
[12:27] <Dr_willis> fruitbag,  or play the   http://www.quakelive.com/#!home
[12:27] <K-4U> Anybody who can hook me up to a nice UPNP/DLNA media client for uuntu?
[12:28] <Dr_willis> fruitbag,  i doubt if its worth the effort really.
[12:28] <Captain_Proton> K-4U, ushare
[12:28] <fruitbag> I wouldn't do it, of course. I was just curious to know if it was possible, Dr_willis.
[12:28] <Dr_willis> K-4U,  xbmc, boxee,  for clients.. for servers, ushare, mediatomb and otehrs.
[12:28] <Captain_Proton> works for xbox and ps3
[12:28] <K-4U> Captiain_Proton: Just the client, the renderer
[12:29] <K-4U> Dr_Willis: Boxee, isn't that like a complete media center?
[12:29] <Captain_Proton> what Dr_willis said
[12:29] <Ri_O> hello..i've some  driver display problem nvidia geforce GT 520 M (ubuntu 11.10).. i've activated it from additional driver but itz still not working.... how can i fix this...!!! help..
[12:29] <Dr_willis> !xbmc
[12:30] <K-4U> Dr_willis: Yeah, i'm using xbmc in windows, i like it, but i just want a simple media player, something like foobar for windows... please don't tell me i need wine now :(
[12:30] <Dr_willis> wonder if vlc can do upnp. cant say i really ever tried it
[12:30] <Captain_Proton> Ri_O, did you install the gui
[12:30] <Dr_willis> My TV's can all browse my upnp servers :)
[12:31] <K-4U> Dr_willis: They say vnc can, but the attempt i made wasn't really.. succesfull
[12:31] <fruitbag> That's for trying to help, guys.
[12:31] <Captain_Proton> Ri_O, nvidia Gui that is
[12:31] <grandboy> http://xeducation.info/2012/03/blonde-teen-bj-in-a-car-then-beautifully-fucked-in-the-pussy/
[12:31] <Dr_willis> vnc? cant say ive ever seen that mentioned as a upnp client.. wouldent make a lot of sence
[12:31] <Dr_willis> VLC perhaps. :)
[12:31] <Ri_O> Captain_Proton, srry? i installed from System settings....
[12:31] <K-4U> Dr_willes: Woops.. *vlc, yes xD i always mess those up
[12:32] <ziyadb> Hello, I have a simple issue. Sound comes out from both the built-in speakers and the audio jack. How do I fix this?
[12:33] <Captain_Proton> Ri_O,  ok you need to run and save the setting then reboot
[12:34] <Ri_O> after run sudo nvidia-xconfig it won't boot me to gui on next..
[12:34] <K-4U> Ri_O: Do you have multi monitor setup?
[12:34] <Ri_O> no .. a laptop
[12:35] <K-4U> Ri_O: Hm.. which one is it? An Asus?
[12:35] <Ri_O> acer
[12:35] <cheater> hi guys, i am having problems with gnome 2 under pangolin.. alt-tab doesn't do anything and the app buttons in the panel don't show the text, just the icons. actually, the selected app shows the text too but it's very faint. is this a known issue? is there a fix?
[12:35] <theadmin> cheater: Precise is not supported, neither is gnome2
[12:36] <K-4U> Ri_O: Hm.. I know that with my asus laptop (the N73SV) Has 2 GPU's in em, when i try to use the nvidia card, my xserver crashes too. Maybe there's the issue?
[12:36] <cheater> where do i go to ask about pangolin?
[12:36] <oCean> cheater /join #ubuntu+1
[12:36] <cheater> thanks
[12:37] <warhell> lol
[12:37] <Ri_O> K-4U, i dun no ,, i've tried the driver from nvidia.com too
[12:37] <K-4U> Ri_O: Paste us your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:37] <K-4U> !paste | Ri_O
[12:38] <Ri_O> can i pm U?
[12:38] <Ri_O> K-4U, CAN I PM
[12:38] <Dr_willis> gnome2 on ubuntu+1 = scary :)
[12:39] <K-4U> Ri_O: Yeah, you can.. but not for the paste of that log, please do that trough the ubuntu paste
[12:39] <boy24ch> http://xeducation.info/2012/03/uk-soccer-fan-with-big-boobs-horny-as-hell/
[12:39] <boy24ch> http://xeducation.info/2012/03/blonde-teen-bj-in-a-car-then-beautifully-fucked-in-the-pussy/
[12:39] <boy24ch> http://xeducation.info/2012/02/bisex-party/
[12:39] <boy24ch> http://xeducation.info/2012/02/my-tight-teens-pussy-is-very-wet-while-big-dicks-fucks-my-asshole/
[12:39] <boy24ch> http://xeducation.info/2012/02/young-lesbians/
[12:39] <FloodBot1> boy24ch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:40] <K-4U> nice :P
[12:41] <theadmin> ...really now?
[12:41] <enchilado> .info?
[12:41] <joshua__> what's with all the porn?
[12:41] <oCean> enough, no need to comment on the spam
[12:41] <theadmin> Just spam, let's not get offtopic
[12:42] <joshua__> ok...
[12:42] <joshua__> whats the topic?
[12:42] <enchilado>  /topic
[12:42] <warfares> hi just testing xchat-gnome
[12:42] <warfares> :-)
[12:43] <Ri_O> K-4U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/866604/ ... my log
[12:44] <K-4U> Ri_O: Hmm, according to this, your xserver should be running
[12:45] <Ri_O> K-4U,  i did it via GUI
[12:45] <K-4U> Ri_O: So.. what was the problem again? :$
[12:45] <Ri_O> i have only 2 D view.. my graphic doesn't recognize
[12:46] <K-4U> Ri_O: try opening a console and running 'glxgears'
[12:46] <ay2> selam
[12:46] <ay2> millet
[12:48] <Ri_O> K-4U, lib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[12:48] <K-4U> Ri_O: Hmm, that issue.. let me search
[12:50] <K-4U> Ri_O: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8545291/opengl-glx-extension-not-supported
[12:52] <ziyadb> How do I enable audio jack sensing in Unity?
[12:55] <Ri_O> how to configure xorg.conf to meet my graphic card??
[12:56] <K-4U> Ri_O: Well. you don't want to configure your own xorg.conf.. believe me :P
[12:56] <wejku> hi guyz, i have got problem with 10.04 and wireless, what info should i deliver to help?
[12:56] <theadmin> wejku: Your wireless chipset model and the actual problem.
[12:57] <Ri_O> K-4U, i don't but i really want it wrok.. i don't wanna go back to Win7 :D
[12:57]  * ivarela is away: Xintando
[12:57] <wejku> some commands to get it ?
[12:57] <theadmin> wejku: sudo lshw -C network
[12:57] <K-4U> Ri_O: Okay, i know that feeling.. uhmm... Let me think.. you now have the Unity 2D session?
[12:57] <Ri_O> K-4U, yeap..
[12:58] <K-4U> Ri_O: And, when you run the standard session, what happens then?
[12:58] <oCean> !away > ivarela
[12:58] <wejku> AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-EXPRESS) Atheros Communications Inc.
[12:58] <Ri_O> K-4U, sorry..i'm on Ubuntu ,, but itz the same with 2 D session..
[12:59] <wejku> I cant connect to wireless network that i can connect to using 2 other laptops, one with windows 7 and second with ubuntu 11
[12:59] <theadmin> wejku: sudo modprobe ath9k && killall nm-applet && nm-applet &disown # And then try to connect again
[12:59] <K-4U> Ri_O: uhm... damn i honestly have no idea anymore.. maybe try searching for your type of laptop on the ubuntuforums
[13:00] <Ri_O> :D K-4U thx so much for u time.
[13:00] <K-4U> Ri_O: No problem ;) Wish i could be of more help though
[13:01] <slackerr> hi. how to set custom gamma value in ubuntu 11.10 ? in kubuntu i can do it in display settings.  in ubuntu i can only assign color profile, but i need to set blue channel to lower value
[13:01] <Ri_O> o_O i wonder why the  driver from nvidia.com won't work for my card .. :(
[13:01] <wejku> ok, i put connection data, wifi indicator in tray is going up-down and still didnt connect
[13:02] <K-4U> Ri_O: Well, you're always better of using the one prebuilt for Ubuntu
[13:02] <theadmin> slackerr: Try using xgamma, a commandline tool
[13:02] <bosongg> hi id like to place shortcuts to apps on my desktop. im on 11.10,
[13:03] <slackerr> theadmin: and set in somewhere in autoload? ok, i know about it. just wonder why it cannot be done through gui settings..
[13:03] <wejku> theadmin: (sorry for reposting myself but i decided to put your nick before) ok, i put connection data, wifi indicator in tray is going up-down and still didnt connect
[13:03] <theadmin> wejku: Oh :(
[13:03] <theadmin> wejku: Sorry no idea then, maybe a bug
[13:03] <Dr_willis> bosong,  the trend these days is to not have a cluttered mess of icons on the desktop. :) You should be able to drag/drop the icons onto the desktop i thought
[13:03]  * Dr_willis recalls seeing people with 200+ icons on their desktops...
[13:04] <Dr_willis> unity is similer to a multi-paged desktop launcher. :)
[13:04] <bosongg> i want to run gksudo without using the terminalk
[13:04]  * theadmin has 0 icons on the desktop
[13:04] <bobweaver> bosong, do you have the shoetcuts already /usr/share/applications/<name of program.desktop> but after reading above seems like Dr_willis  got you going
[13:04] <wejku> theadmin: its kinda strange, that every device connects, that laptop couldnt, but when i put data like ip, mask and gate, it worked for <5min
[13:05] <wejku> i added that device with its mac and so to router whitelit
[13:05] <bosongg> alt+f2 isnt working
[13:05] <bobweaver> bosong, if you want something running as a supersuser just add that or create a new .desktopfile and use gksudo in the execute part
[13:06] <Darkasakerionz> Hello, anybody can help me encrypting a file with blowfish and openssl? Thanks
[13:06] <Dr_willis> running gksudo by itself.. isent too usefull :)
[13:06] <what> hi :)
[13:11] <bobweaver> bosong, a good example may be found in the program "bleachbit "  as there are 2 .desktop files one for reg user's and one for root  under /usr/share/applications/bleachbit.desktop   /usr/share/applications/bleachbit.root.desktop  or wireshark is a good different example   look at those files and pay close attention  to the part that looks like" Exec= "  that is how and where and what all right there hope that this help
[13:17] <balazsbela> hello all. I'm trying to reinstall grub and since os prober won't detect my windows I made a manual entry with set root(hd0,8) and chainloader +1
[13:17] <balazsbela> when I select it
[13:17] <balazsbela> I get a blinking cursor
[13:18] <balazsbela> and windows won't start, but it's the correct partition /dev/sda8
[13:18] <Dr_willis> balazsbela,  i think the proper entry may need more then just those 2 lines.
[13:19] <balazsbela> I found it on a forum.
[13:19] <Dr_willis> balazsbela,  sounds like an entry for the old grub1.
[13:19] <balazsbela> ok, brb
[13:19] <Dr_willis> my windows entry in grub.cfg is more complex then 2 lines.
[13:20] <balazsbela> could you paste it ?
[13:20] <balazsbela> windows 7 /
[13:20] <Dr_willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/866635/
[13:20] <balazsbela> thanks
[13:23] <bosongg> my nautilus has gone grey, looks very old fashionewd=]]]
[13:23] <Dr_willis> so has my  hair
[13:24] <bosongg> my nautilus has gone grey, looks very old fashioned , any idea how i can restore it ?
[13:24] <sacarlson> does ubuntu have a method to mount windows 7 that are in SFS partitions?  if so can grub also boot from windows 7 installed in SFS?
[13:24] <JonathanEllis> Dr_willis: Sounds like you need Grecian 2000 (remember that?) or Just for Men
[13:25] <bosongg> yes it was called grecian 2000 back in the seventies
[13:26] <balazsbela> Ubuntu won't show grub menu only boots the default option
[13:26] <balazsbela> why ?
[13:26] <bobweaver> So I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 32bit server onto virtual box. everything looks good up to the point that I pick my english and then press enter to install. This is where the error starts. This is what I get and it will not move past that. http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=201807
[13:26] <oCean> bobweaver: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (now beta). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[13:26] <bobweaver> oCean,  np
[13:27] <bobweaver> balazsbela, where is grub installed too ?
[13:27] <bosongg> if i run sudo nautilus it appears orange as normal
[13:29] <bobweaver> can anyone or has anyone been able to install magneto onto there server. I can not get it to install
[13:30] <prakas> is there any fix for openjdk on ubuntu that takes nearly 50-90% of cpu when azureus is started (and even is idle)
[13:31] <prakas> is there any fix available?
[13:31] <UltraUser> Hello?
[13:31] <sun_devil> How do you access service configuration, such as starting and stopping services?
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> !info magneto
[13:31] <yeats> sun_devil: System Monitor?
[13:32] <prakas> has this bug bix fixed? any patch or bugfix available for this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/857776
[13:32] <yeats> sun_devil: or are you looking for something like /etc/init.d or /etc/rc.d?
[13:32] <UltraUser> I have the problem described here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1859090.html. The solution is give, but i cant implement it from command line :(
[13:33] <sun_devil> no
[13:33] <prakas> any ubuntu ops/developers here? is there a solution to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/857776
[13:33] <sun_devil> system monitor works with processes, I want to turn off services
[13:34] <sun_devil> a few
[13:34] <yeats> !upstart | sun_devil - this?
[13:34] <Dr_willis> prakas,   [Undecided,Confirmed]   -> no fix has been 'released'
[13:34] <sacarlson> prakas: best solution I found was to use qbittorrent instead
[13:35] <prakas> sacarlson i use eclipse as well
[13:35] <Dr_willis> sun_devil,  what service?
[13:35] <prakas> the Eclipse IDE
[13:35] <oCean> prakas: the LP bug page is used to log any patches/fixes etc, so no it's not fixed. And this channel is not going to fix it :)
[13:35] <sun_devil> bluetooth, portmap
[13:35] <jasonmsp> hey all.  I just finally got around to updating to 11.10.  Everything is going great except my desktop/display doesn't fill the entire monitor screen.  The monitor settings haven't been changed at all on the monitor so I am assuming that Ubuntu is sending data differently than previously.  My google searchs are coming up empty handed.
[13:35] <bosongg> my nautilus has lost its ambience theme . any way to restore it ?
[13:36] <Dr_willis> jasonmsp,  what video chipset?
[13:36] <sun_devil> Its easy in centos
[13:36] <jasonmsp> Dr_willis: not sure.  How do I check??
[13:36] <joseph_> hello?
[13:37] <kame> When I run my battery.sh I get an output because of echo. When I call the script with crontab I don't get the echo? Or where does he print the output?
[13:37] <Dr_willis>  sun_devil  see if its getting started from /etc/init/ and if so you can rename the whatever.conf file to be whatever.dontrun  and it wont run.
[13:37] <joseph_> I just need to change my screenname?
[13:37] <Dr_willis> jasonmsp,  lspci is one way
[13:37] <sun_devil> Dr_willis, ok thanks
[13:37] <prakas> oCean alright np
[13:37] <Dr_willis> kame,  cron dosent have a place to print to. :) use pipes to print to a file or similer in your scripts
[13:38] <jasonmsp> Dr_willis:  ATI Technologies Inc RV710 [Radeon HD 4350]
[13:38] <kame> Dr_willis but I want to print in the console/shell
[13:38] <joseph_> can anyone tell me how to change my screenname?
[13:38] <Dr_willis> jasonmsp,  install the fglrx drivers perhaps., and use the amd control panel to set your overscan  perhaps.
[13:38] <Dr_willis> kame,  i dont think you want to do that with cron.
[13:38] <UltraUser> Is there a way to "uncheck the two boxes " ‘Download Updates’ and ‘install third party software"" from command line?
[13:38] <sacarlson> kame: then use tail to see the output of the pipe in your script
[13:39] <angelleye1> I'm on ubuntu using webmin.  I created a new user, and then I also created an apache virtual host for that user.  If I create files from with Webmin file browser I can now browse them just fine from the web.  I can connect to the server using this account with SFTP, too, but when I try to upload files or create directories I get access denied.
[13:39] <Dr_willis> angelleye1,  its best to not use webmin with ubuntu.
[13:39] <kame> Dr_willis I want a warning of low battery in my actuall console tab.
[13:39] <sun_devil> Any idea on how to create a crontab file?
[13:39] <angelleye1> well, in or out of it, how can I fix this problem?
[13:39] <Dr_willis> kame,  byobu  has a way to show batery level i belive. or make a bash prompt.
[13:39] <angelleye1> I loaded up a TurnKey VM LAMP stack and this is how it came.
[13:40] <Dr_willis> kame,  you dont use cron to print messages to your user normally. cron is made to run stand alone even if the user is not logged in.
[13:40] <sun_devil> Just type crontab and start creating a script?
[13:40] <Dr_willis> angelleye1,  turnkey is not supported ubuntu variant i imagine.
[13:40] <sacarlson> sun_devil: crontab -e
[13:40] <kame> sacarlson but I want the ouput on the shell. Is this possible?
[13:40] <Dr_willis> !cron
[13:40] <sacarlson> kame: yest run tail in your shell on the output file of your script
[13:40] <angelleye1> dr_willis:  well, there has to be some simple way to fix this from the command line or something..??
[13:40] <Dr_willis> kame,  make a bash prompt thing that checks it via a script perhaps.
[13:41] <kame> Dr_willis Then I have to tell the programm to print in the running console
[13:41] <angelleye1> i just dont know linux very well in general is my problem
[13:41] <Dr_willis> kame,  or make a script that just monitors and prints out to the stdout.. talk about ugly.
[13:41] <oCean> kame: like sacarlson says:  run from cron  blahscript.sh >> /path/to/log    and from terminal type  tail -f /path/to/log
[13:41] <Dr_willis> make a script that monitors level in the background then plays 'beep' as a warning perhaps
[13:41] <sun_devil> what would be a example of a crontab, just learning this stuff
[13:42] <sacarlson> kame: oCean: good example
[13:42] <oCean> sun_devil: example of basic cron: http://paste.ubuntu.com/477390/
[13:42] <MasterP> sup
[13:42] <kame> oCean sacarlson Dr_willis give me some time.
[13:43] <sun_devil> oCean, what sort of path
[13:44] <oCean> sun_devil: replace /path/to/command with (for example)  /home/sundevil/scripts/myscript.sh
[13:44] <sacarlson> sun_devil:  a path that your user is allowed to access like /home/sacarlson/myscript.sh
[13:45] <MasterP> How do I use RSA/DSA Authenication for SSH
[13:46] <sun_devil> So create the crontab in crontab -2, write it, then :wq as myscript ?
[13:46] <sacarlson> MasterP: you want no password for ssh?
[13:46] <balazsbela> why doesn't os-prober detect windows 7 ?
[13:47] <llutz> MasterP: man ssh  (-c cipher)
[13:47] <rexor> MasterP, you need to generate keys
[13:47] <oCean> sun_devil: no, you should not rename the crontab file. Just :wq it after adding the correct lines
[13:47] <rexor> MasterP, http://pkeck.myweb.uga.edu/ssh/
[13:47] <sacarlson> balazsbela: I'm gueseing that your windows 7 is installed in a partition type SFS that as far as I know linux doesn't support yet
[13:47] <balazsbela> it's simple ntfs
[13:48] <sun_devil> oCean, thanks
[13:48] <balazsbela> it used to work, but now os-prober can't find it.
[13:48] <sun_devil> OCean, what is the command to check it status of it or run it
[13:48] <kame> oCean: i don't know how. I write the output in a log-file. But where should i call tail -f?
[13:48] <oCean> kame: in a terminal
[13:49] <Halexander9000> kame-hame-ha?
[13:49] <kame> oCean but I need an automatically update when the battery is low.
[13:49] <balazsbela> scarlson : other ideas ?
[13:49] <balazsbela> does the windows partition need to have a boot flag ?
[13:49] <kame> oCean an automatically output
[13:49] <oCean> sun_devil: check the /var/log/syslog file for "cron", for example   grep cron /var/log/syslog
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> guys, when trying to reset unity, i get a D-BUS error -- cannot pastebin it, for it is an "empty file" -- Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-DO7rDcmbmI: Connection refused
[13:50] <sun_devil> oCean, I will try it out...thanks
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> hints & tips?
[13:50] <oCean> kame: your cron script will write to the logfile. The tail -f command in terminal will read from the logfile. So those 2 combined will result in the output of the script in the terminal where you run the tail -f command
[13:50] <krishna_> hello
[13:50] <sacarlson> kame: how about run a script that plays a wav file that alarms you that your battery is low?
[13:51] <soreau> kame: You want a global notice sent to all running shells?
[13:52] <kame> oCean there is no need for crontab then. I could write a command for checking the battery then.
[13:52] <UltraUser> I have the problem described here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1859090.html. The solution is give, but i cant implement it from command line :( This probably wont take long. Please give a couple of minutes. I will be forever indepted to you!
[13:52] <oCean> kame: yeah, what sacarlson said might be better then constantly viewing a logfile. Or use "zenity" command to give a pop-up when you want it
[13:52] <kame> soreau yes
[13:52] <escott> MonkeyDust, what command are you using to reset unity and what are the permissions on /tmp
[13:52] <kame> oCean a pop-up sounds good
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> escott  unity --reset
[13:53] <kame> oCean i didn't hear of zenity until now
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> escott  strangely: 2D is ok, 3D is not
[13:53] <oCean> kame: I don't know what your desktop environment is, but on most of them, there are applets/widgets etc that do just that
[13:53] <oCean> warn for battery status I mean
[13:53] <krishna_> Can anyboby help me out to store the updates for Xubuntu and transfer it  to other PC
[13:53] <kame> oCean gnome + easypeasy
[13:54] <bosongg> fixed my nautilus problem, just logged out and in and it was back to normal.
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> escott  /tmp -> drwxrwxrwt
[13:54] <sacarlson> kame: oCean: ya that looks cool http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/make-your-scripts-user-friendly-zenity
[13:54] <oCean> kame: I guess there must be batterystatus applets or-whatever-they-are-called
[13:54] <linagee> is there a way to prevent the windows key from opening the dash?
[13:55] <linagee> on 11.10 Desktop
[13:55] <Eber> Hey guys, I would like to know how the env variable PATH gets defined at start and how can I change it... There is a directory there that I want to swap, but don't know how...
[13:55] <tull> hi, i have a big problem with ubuntu 10.04, i've installed nvidia drivers and now on every boot nvidia drivers aren't activated, with no windows manager activated
[13:56] <sacarlson> oCean: kame: oh ya I think there are but I assumed it was a remote system, otherwise for local must be nice icon things that show a battery life left symbol
[13:56] <escott> Eber, modify your path in ~/.bashrc
[13:57] <escott> MonkeyDust, im not sure how the 2d/3d difference would affect dbus
[13:58] <Eber> escott: I couldn't find the definition of the PATH on my ~/.bashrc, should I just define it there again?
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> linagee  look in System Settings - Keyboard - Shortcuts
[13:58] <MasterP> rexor:  I dont have SSH I only have ftp access but I can edit any file on the server trying to create a ssh from remote
[13:59] <linagee> MonkeyDust: nope not there. disregard though. found it in gconf-editor /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options/show_launcher
[13:59] <sacarlson> MasterP: is the system remote a ubuntu server?
[14:00] <escott> Eber, or .profile. whichever you prefer
[14:00] <nikolam> I would like to install Ubuntu on ZFS. Since there is ZfsOnLinux driver available on PPA repository, how do you think updating from 12.04 Beta to 12.04 Final work out? Will there be Kernel changes that could break functionality of FS driver, other then ext3/4 and btrfs ?
[14:00] <sacarlson> MasterP: do you also have an apache2 with php running in this ubuntu system?
[14:01] <Eber> escott: oh, right, there it is :) is there an easy way to reload the path?
[14:03] <escott> Eber, reload the path? do you mean source the script ". .profile"
[14:03] <fsgxdroid> i'm having problems making bootable ubuntu 10.04.4 usb... ive tried: "dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M" but it wont boot : (
[14:03] <kuldeepdhaka> [14:04] <Eber> escott: yes!
[14:04] <war10ck1> hi all, how do i forward X session on display 1 from one computer to another computer to display 2?
[14:05] <escott> war10ck1, ssh -X username@host
[14:05] <jadams> I've got a policy I can see set in apt-cache policy for package google-chrome.  I don't see reference to it in /etc/apt/preferences.  How can I remove this policy?
[14:05] <sacarlson> war10ck1:  ssh -X address;  appname;
[14:06] <MasterP> sacarlson: yup
[14:06] <MasterP> sacarlson:  Its remote with ftp and I can edit the Authority_file i want to create a user with it
[14:06] <kuldeepdhaka> **********where i can find the source code of the minimal installer ( that takes interact with the user using simple graphics)*****
[14:06] <war10ck1> escott, this is forwarding to my display not to 2
[14:06] <sacarlson> MasterP: ok and you said any file on the server does that include files in /etc ?
[14:06] <locsmif> Hi all. I see kedit is not available from the repo in Ubuntu, what is the alternative, i.e. what is the basic editor Kubuntu uses?
[14:06] <MasterP> sacarlson:  yeah
[14:06] <tjiggi_fo> fsgxdroid, why don't you install it to USB the same way you would install it on a HDD?
[14:06] <Dr_willis> war10ck1,  on the same machine? or over a network?
[14:07] <war10ck1> Dr_willis, over the network
[14:07] <sacarlson> MasterP: does the user of ftp already have sudo access or I guess what is needed is www-data would require sudo to run an installer
[14:07] <locsmif> Err... Sorry, asking in #kubuntu instead.
[14:07] <kuldeepdhaka> i need the source code of the minimal installer ( that takes interact with the user using simple graphics)
[14:07] <Dr_willis> war10ck1,  you may need to use the xhost command and export the display
[14:07] <Dr_willis> kuldeepdhaka,  you mean the text based installer?
[14:08] <MasterP> sacarlson: yeah it doesnt have sudo access
[14:08] <war10ck1> locsmif, kate
[14:08] <green_> fsgxdroid  have u tried UNetbootin?
[14:08] <sacarlson> MasterP: so if www-data the default apache2 user has sudo then just write a php script that does sudo apt-get install ssh-server
[14:08] <Dr_willis> fsgxdroid,  dd will NOT work for 10.x  only 11.04+ releases
[14:08] <fsgxdroid> green_: not yet...
[14:09] <Dr_willis> fsgxdroid,  use some of the many tools at the pendrivelinux sute.
[14:09] <spiff_> Hello, is there any way to show pending update change descriptions in a terminal? With apt-get or similar?
[14:09] <kuldeepdhaka> Cr_willis, the simple gui that interact with user,, i want to use those graphics in my code
[14:09] <fsgxdroid> alright, ty
[14:09] <green_> try that, works for me
[14:09] <kuldeepdhaka> Dr_willis, the simple gui that interact with user,, i want to use those graphics in my code
[14:09] <Dr_willis> kuldeepdhaka,  'simple gui'  meaning the X or the Console/text gui?
[14:09] <Dr_willis> The X installer is called Ubiquity i belive.
[14:10] <sacarlson> MasterP: this also assumes that the host has ports open for ssh , if not then you might be able to change ssh to run on port 80 ?
[14:10] <kuldeepdhaka> Dr_willis, the simple coloured GUI(may be designed in C using graphics ) used for intallation
[14:11] <sacarlson> MasterP: that would require a script that would shutdown apache to enable ssh to run on port 80 then it would have to work the first time or never
[14:11] <student> 安安
[14:11] <student>  安安
[14:11] <student>  安安
[14:11] <student>  安安
[14:11] <FloodBot1> student: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> guys, here's the error message when I try to reset Unity 3D -- hints & tips? -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/866688/
[14:15] <kuldeepdhaka> Dr_willis, example is http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/minimallucidthumb07.jpg
[14:15] <kuldeepdhaka> Dr_willis, this gui source code is required
[14:15] <atubuntu> hello people
[14:16] <kuldeepdhaka> Dr_willis, i think it is designed in C graphics,,, i need the source code of that GUI
[14:16] <Dr_willis> kuldeepdhaka,  thats the text based installer.. (thats what ive been asking you all this time)  - it uses the ncurses drawing routines
[14:16] <atubuntu> there is some problem with plugin container of firefox which eats up 80-100% CPU for every flash based site; any remedies!
[14:16] <pdin> #call of duty
[14:16] <Dr_willis> i dont recall the name of the text based installer.
[14:17] <kuldeepdhaka> Dr_willis, where can i find its source code,,,please tell me which lang does it use
[14:17] <Dr_willis> kuldeepdhaka,  source code is in the repos. i imagine its in C.  ive never needed to look at its source code.
[14:17] <Dr_willis> not sure what parts of it you would need either kuldeepdhaka .
[14:17] <Dr_willis> Theres most likely numerous ncurses drawing libraries out there.
[14:18] <kuldeepdhaka> Dr_willis thanks
[14:20] <Shojo>  i installed clamar.. but it doesn't appear to be running in the system monitor... Any ideea how to start it?
[14:20] <Shojo> clamav
[14:20] <Dr_willis> Shojo,  clamav does not run in the background or scan in real time.
[14:20] <Dr_willis> yoyu use the clamav command, or gui to scan what you want to scan
[14:20] <Shojo> oh thank you dr
[14:20] <Dr_willis> 'linux is not windows' :)
[14:21] <Shojo> :)
[14:21] <mosno> i thought clamav had a realtime scanner daemon now
[14:21] <Dr_willis> so stuff you learned in windows..may not apply. heh
[14:21] <qt-x> hello people
[14:21] <qt-x> how can I change numbers of disk partition example switch: /dev/sda2 to /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 to /dev/sda1 ?
[14:21] <qt-x> Dr_willis, how true :D
[14:21] <Dr_willis> mosno,  not noticed really. it may have somthing to do scans on a regular basis. but ive never seen it scaning things as open/written/so forth.. never noticed it having that feature under windows either
[14:21] <Shojo> Dr_willis: i didn't assume it would :P
[14:22] <Dr_willis> Shojo,  how about...'why do you assume you even need clamav' :)
[14:22] <Dr_willis> well bbl.
[14:23] <Shojo> protection is always good
[14:23] <mosno> it definitely has it
[14:23] <mosno> oh, he's gone
[14:23] <SafariMonkey> Hello people! I'm trying to add more partitions via windows, but I'd need a dynamic disk. Changing the disk to dynamic via windows' Disk Management, will that affect the ubuntu partitions in any (bad) way?
[14:23] <sacarlson> Shojo: it will only protect users of windows that share files with ubuntu
[14:23] <escott> qt-x, why would you want to? use uuid see blkid
[14:23] <changlizhi> any chinese here?
[14:23] <atubuntu> there is some problem with plugin container of firefox which eats up 80-100% CPU for every flash based site; any remedies!
[14:23] <JonathanEllis> !chinese
[14:25] <SafariMonkey> Anyone?
[14:25] <JonathanEllis> !chinese | changlizhi
[14:26] <SafariMonkey> Can someone respond?
[14:26] <sacarlson> SafariMonkey: I haven't seen any support as of yet for windows SFS (dynamic patition) in linux, not sure how that might effect you
[14:27] <mun> hi
[14:27] <atubuntu> there is some problem with plugin container of firefox which eats up 80-100% CPU for every flash based site; any remedies!
[14:27] <atubuntu> no one knows
[14:27] <atubuntu> bad
[14:27] <qt-x> escott, I have split the first partition in 2 and and now first partition on the disc is detected as /dev/sdX4 and I want to call it by sdX1
[14:27] <SafariMonkey> sacarlson: people have said ubuntu can be installed on dynamic disk, but no-one has said about change after installation. :/
[14:27] <mun> i've just installed scim but can't seem to trigger it using the default ctrl-space. i've already set 'keyboard input method system' to scim-immodule under 'language support', but the trigger won't work. does anyone know if scim works in 11.10?
[14:28] <sacarlson> SafariMonkey: ubuntu system for dynamic partitions is LVM  not the windows somewhat equiv SFS
[14:28] <kuldeepdhaka> Dr_willis, i want to dive into linux [distors or kernel] development, can u guide me how to...   :)
[14:29] <sacarlson> kuldeepdhaka: I might point you to ruby or java or bash to start
[14:30] <Raggs> how long is long term service?
[14:30] <bosongg>  /join #defocus
[14:30] <sacarlson> kuldeepdhaka: more advanced would be C and c++
[14:30] <frailty> hi
[14:30] <SafariMonkey> sacarlson: thanks. looks like I won't be getting windows 8 preview partition then.
[14:30] <kuldeepdhaka> sacarlson, i know c and c++
[14:30] <frailty> Here's my problem: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/qfvrb/having_problem_with_samba_nfs_shares_cant_write/
[14:30] <frailty> need help, please :)
[14:32] <kuldeepdhaka> sacarlson, i know c and c++ , how can i start development,, please guide me,,
[14:32] <qt-x> what would be the best filesystem for /boot partition ?
[14:33] <sacarlson> kuldeepdhaka: if you already know c and c++ I might look at examples in github.com that use one of the graphic libs qt or other if you are wanting that kind of stuf
[14:34] <Raggs> has anyone tried the new LTS beta and if so how is it?
[14:34] <oCean> Raggs: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (now beta). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[14:34] <sacarlson> kuldeepdhaka: other option is gtk3 is another graphic gui lib option you might look at
[14:36] <sacarlson> qt-x: I would just use the default that I guess is ext4
[14:36] <bobweaver> hello there I am trying to help out with this http://mhall119.com/2012/02/contributing-to-unity-for-non-developers-quicklists/   but here is what I did to filezilla and it will ot show up now I will paste bin the .desktop file
[14:37] <BlueWolf> Raggs: Are you referring to Ubuntu 10.04?
[14:37] <qt-x> thanks sacarlson
[14:37] <Raggs> BlueWolf: no, 12.04
[14:37] <ChogyDan> any suggestions on how I can learn "the GCC/binutils toolchain, make and gdb"   ?
[14:38] <bobweaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/866726/
[14:38] <sacarlson> Raggs: last problem I heard was it wasn't coming up in virtualbox with some pae instruction problem,  maybe it was VM something else
[14:39] <bobweaver> I look at other programs like chromium and there .desktop looks so different then what is in that blog
[14:39] <bufalo1973> hello
[14:39] <bobweaver> could someone look at that and tell me if it for real or not ..   http://mhall119.com/2012/02/contributing-to-unity-for-non-developers-quicklists/
[14:39] <sacarlson> Raggs: maybe you can confirm the problem, if it doesn't work in virtualbox maybe just try another kernal to try the rest
[14:39] <oCean> sacarlson: just tick PAE/NX in vbox guest config, and you're fine. Anyway, further 12.04 discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[14:40] <bobweaver> Raggs,  what is going on you are getting screen that says no kernel  blah blah blah ?
[14:40] <bobweaver> oCean,  +1
[14:40] <sacarlson> oCean: very good problem solved raggs, so try it in virtualbox and find out
[14:40] <kandinski> -topic
[14:40] <Raggs> sacarlson: i plan on actually installing it, no VM
[14:40] <kandinski> oops sorry
[14:41] <sacarlson> Raggs: well if you have a spare partition just try it, but don't delete your old one just yet
[14:41] <Raggs> not running ubuntu atm
[14:42] <sacarlson> Raggs: I'm still running 10.04,  I'm more into stable not cutting edge
[14:42] <HaBS> Hi. Anyone here have success with installing Ubuntu on Alienwae M17x R3?
[14:43] <mun> i've just installed scim but can't seem to trigger it using the default ctrl-space. i've already set 'keyboard input method system' to scim-immodule under 'language support', but the trigger won't work. does anyone know if scim works in 11.10?
[14:43] <Raggs> sacarlson: me to, runnng scientific linux atm
[14:43] <Tasmania> I have Windows 95.
[14:43] <Tasmania> It's pretty cool.
[14:45] <BlueWolf> sacarlson: Raggs: Ubuntu 10.04 seems to be a firm operating system with only few problems. And it's LTS...
[14:46]  * Tasmania[A] is away Reason : #awayreason
[14:46] <ChogyDan> What exactly is the "gcc toolchain" and how can I learn it?
[14:46] <sacarlson> BlueWolf: ya but only like 18 months of life left, so in about 6 months I will start trying something else
[14:46] <oCean> Tasmania[A]: please disable that
[14:47] <AllanLinux> Who testing beta? Very good?
[14:47] <oCean> AllanLinux: /join #ubuntu+1 for that
[14:48] <noah> hey guys, I have a HP notebook with a broadcom wifi card. I installed the drivers for it with the GUI however I am showing that there is no wlan0 and that the broadcom wifi card is "unclaimed". any idead how I can get this assigned to wlan0?
[14:49] <BlueWolf> sacarlson: Then why not use 10.04 for a year and when you have six months left then try and move onto another operating system? It's so far a better Ubuntu.
[14:49] <sacarlson> noah: can you show the link of what you used as a reference to install the broadcom driver?  not all of them are supported very well
[14:50] <sacarlson> BlueWolf: I may continue to run until it dies but I'll have to start to move my custom stuf, it may take months to get it to work in the new ones
[14:51] <noah> sacarlson, I used the "find/Install missing drivers" in system-administration and let it install the one it selected automatically
[14:52] <sacarlson> noah: I guess you will have to research your device by looking at sudo lspsi  or lshw  and see if that device is in the list of supported or the problems that others have seen
[14:52] <Timmy> what can i use for DNS domain and Search domain?
[14:53] <BlueWolf> 	
[14:53] <BlueWolf> sacarlson: This would only apply to people such as yourself that customize their linux as you do. But the better decision would be to use it while it lasts?
[14:53] <ChogyDan> Timmy: like `whois` ?
[14:53] <Timmy> no, ChogyDan
[14:53] <sacarlson> Timmy: I'm not sure what you ask,  there are tools to check dns with commands like dig,  or provide services with things like bind9
[14:54] <sacarlson> BlueWolf: agreed,  I try to advice don't fix it if it aint broke policy
[14:58] <_sala_> fuck
[14:59] <HaBS> Ubuntu 11.10 doesn't load on Alienware M17x R3 laptop, I'm running an nVidia GeForce GTX 580M. What could be preventing it from working?
[14:59] <sacarlson> BlueWolf: when it comes a time that an application I want can't be supported even with a backport from ppa in what I now run that I start to take focus on the next version and what the cost and time will be to upgrade
[15:00] <sun_devil> how would I write tar Uvh to untar a rpm file in downloads?
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> guys, here's the error message when I try to reset Unity 3D -- Unity 2D is ok --  hints & tips? -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/866688/
[15:01] <sacarlson> sun_devil: I think there is something like alien  to repackage rpm files to deb but I would verify that there aren't already builds in ppa
[15:01] <sun_devil> tar Uvhfilename.rpm ?
[15:02] <oCean> sun_devil: .rpm is a redhat package, not a tar archive.
[15:02] <hypershock> if its in tar format use tar -Uvhx filename.rpm
[15:02] <noah> sacarlson, was blacklisted, found it when I changed search terms.....
[15:03] <sun_devil> I just right  clicked in downloads and open with installer
[15:03] <sacarlson> noah: I take it that's not good, no work arounds?
[15:03] <oCean> sun_devil: you can't, the rpm format is not supported
[15:04] <BlueWolf> sacarlson: Fair enough, I do agree that it is better to upgrade to a newer version as it brings a number of advantages but at the same time it brings disadvantages. It depends on what your use of Ubuntu is for. I like to wait at least six to eight months after a new ubuntu has come out so that by the time I use it most of the problems have been fixed.
[15:04] <sacarlson> oCean: sun_devil  what is the package you sure there isn't another alternative install method?
[15:06] <sacarlson> oCean: I guess sun_devil got what they wanted,  I hope they didn't hope to install an rpm
[15:07] <kuldeepdhaka> can anyone help me to start with NCURSES
[15:07] <hypershock> found this for sun_devil in case he comes back and i'm not here http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-extract-an-rpm-package-without-installing-it.html it uses rpm2cpio to convert the rpm to format that can be unpacked. ubuntu has this installed by default i believe.
[15:07] <escott> qt-x, got caught up in errands. you can use parted and probably also gparted to renumber, but there isn't much purpose to doing so.
[15:07] <sacarlson> kuldeepdhaka: you want to develop with ncurses?
[15:08] <kuldeepdhaka> sacarlson, yes i want to develop graphical text mode GUI for my project using it
[15:08] <hypershock> kuldeepdhaka: ironically there is a #ncurses channel here that displays a link in their title that should get you started. :)
[15:08] <ulidtko> hi channel. Is it possible to run an application (wine) without pulseaudio?
[15:09] <sacarlson> kuldeepdhaka: maybe start here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curses_Development_Kit
[15:09] <hypershock> ulidtko: yes
[15:09] <ulidtko> hypershock: how?
[15:09] <kuldeepdhaka> hypershock, thnxs
[15:09] <hypershock> ulidtko: you'll have to install wine without using a .deb tho to do it. that way you can bypass that particular dependency
[15:10] <qt-x> escott, thanks
[15:10] <ulidtko> hypershock: no problem with that. Is it a PPA?
[15:10] <wolfnoc> #vampire
[15:11] <Vampire0_> ?
[15:14] <hypershock> ulidtko: well to me a ppa is about the same as a .deb so that might not be what you want but if it is, there are a whole slew of ppa's for wine. [http://paste.ubuntu.com/866771/]; however, I think you should going from source.
[15:14] <hypershock> s/should/should consider/
[15:14] <ulidtko> no problem with building from source too
[15:15] <ulidtko> but wait
[15:15] <ulidtko> are you going to propose me pulseaudio patches for wine?
[15:15] <hypershock> no, you wanted it without wine
[15:16] <ulidtko> a *system* (more precisely, a session) whithout pulseaudio
[15:16] <hypershock> ulidtko: for better support try #winehq
[15:16] <Prez00> mad Nickserv identify Ajimon98
[15:16] <ulidtko> oh come on
[15:16] <hypershock> ulidtko: actually in your wine cfg you should be able to just turn off the sound
[15:16] <ulidtko> but i WANT sound ;[
[15:17] <ulidtko> i'm ready to use something like xinit gnome-session to use bare system
[15:17] <ulidtko> without running&respawning pulseaudio daemon
[15:17] <hypershock> heh, i thought you opening line meant to be without sound. but now I understand you meant without pulse. what are you using for your audio driver then?
[15:17] <ulidtko> alsa
[15:18] <jrib> ulidtko: use pasuspender
[15:18] <ulidtko> doesn't work
[15:18] <ulidtko> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/944295
[15:18] <minixvbox> part
[15:18] <ulidtko> reported that already.
[15:18] <Prez00> hello, a bit off topic, but I am now a bit worried, my hosting site, getnetworks.com has been down since 7:45am GMT, no word from them on twitter and all sites down...
[15:19] <ulidtko> btw, if there are some triagers here: confirm please
[15:19] <kuldeepdhaka> any Ncurses or Curses developer here....need help
[15:19] <jrib> kuldeepdhaka: ask your actual question
[15:20] <ulidtko> so, any other way to use bare system without running pulseaudio daemon?
[15:20] <sacarlson> Prez00: being your here in ubuntu, your option to fix move your site to your local ubuntu server over adsl until they fix it
[15:20] <jrib> ulidtko: does wine work if you just kill pulse...?
[15:20] <kuldeepdhaka> jrib. i want to write a gui for my project  in c,,how to use ncurses
[15:20] <Shojo> uh, why would someone try to steal my nick?
[15:20] <ulidtko> jrib: nope, PA respawns
[15:20] <delinquentme> HEEEYYY alll!  So I've got my little brother ( age 16 ) running on ubuntu  ( ! ) I've showed him around some of the lovely UI customization options and hes starting to dig into it ... Now I'm wondering if there happen to be any good open-source fruity loops type programs.  Ideas?
[15:20] <jrib> ulidtko: tell it not to :D
[15:20] <ulidtko> err... how?
[15:21] <Firebolt> Shojo: because people are silly
[15:21] <kuldeepdhaka> jrib, textmode gui for my project
[15:21] <jrib> ulidtko: (add "autospawn =no" to ~/.pulse/client.conf)
[15:21] <jrib> ulidtko: (add "autospawn = no" to ~/.pulse/client.conf)
[15:21] <ulidtko> ok! brb
[15:21] <hypershock> ulidtko: found this for you
[15:21] <hypershock> ulidtko: http://paste.ubuntu.com/866783/
[15:21] <jrib> kuldeepdhaka: start at ##c though I don't know if they will support ncurses
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> guys, here's the error message when I try to reset Unity 3D -- Unity 2D is ok --  hints & tips? -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/866688/
[15:22] <illuminatyguy> is ubuntu 12.04 supported here?
[15:22] <jrib> illuminatyguy: no
[15:22] <ulidtko> hypershock: isn't that just apt-get build-dep wine?
[15:22] <illuminatyguy> why?
[15:22] <kuldeepdhaka> jrib, i went to ncurses room on free node but no one responded
[15:22] <DJones> illuminatyguy: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04
[15:22] <jrib> illuminatyguy: because it's still being developed.  Use #ubuntu+1`
[15:22] <illuminatyguy> It's on the main page arleady
[15:22] <jrib> illuminatyguy: because it's still being developed.  Use #ubuntu+1
[15:22] <hypershock> ulidtko: did you try it
[15:23] <reisio> kuldeepdhaka: what's up?
[15:23] <jrib> illuminatyguy: it's beta
[15:23] <illuminatyguy> jrib, when will it be supported in here?
[15:23] <hypershock> ulidtko: that is supposed to force ubuntu to compile wine from source using your actual dependencies the way i understand it.
[15:23] <jrib> illuminatyguy: when it's released
[15:23] <kuldeepdhaka> reisio, can u help me developing a text mode gui using ncurces
[15:23] <illuminatyguy> that would be?
[15:23] <illuminatyguy> !precise
[15:23] <reisio> kuldeepdhaka: to do what?
[15:24] <illuminatyguy> when will precise be released?
[15:24] <ulidtko> hypershock: no, it just installs the deps
[15:24] <reisio> illuminatyguy: probably next month
[15:24] <kuldeepdhaka> reisio, i want to develop a gui using ncurses for my project
[15:24] <reisio> illuminatyguy: the 04 standing for the fourth month of the year, you see
[15:24] <hypershock> ulidtko: did you try what jrib suggested?
[15:24] <reisio> kuldeepdhaka: ah, secret project
[15:24] <illuminatyguy> oh 2012.04? that's clever
[15:25] <ulidtko> jrib, i tried "autospawn = no", doesn't work. I've created ~/.pulse/client.conf, because it didn't exist
[15:25] <kame> !japanese
[15:25] <sacarlson> kuldeepdhaka: did you check out the #ncurses irc?  also for me the best way to learn is to look at examples
[15:25] <reisio> illuminatyguy: it would be, if they didn't give them codenames like 'precise pangolin' that everyone used instead, thus defeating the purpose of version numbers :p
[15:25] <DJones> illuminatyguy: According to the release schedule, 26th April 2012
[15:25] <reisio> wow, need to install more CJK fonts
[15:25] <hypershock> ulidtko: look in ~/.config for all of your configs
[15:25] <kuldeepdhaka> sacarlson, no one responded in the room
[15:25] <reisio> kuldeepdhaka: #ncurses, #friendly-coders, #lang-of-choice, etc.
[15:25] <ulidtko> hypershock: nothing pulseaudio-related there too
[15:25] <reisio> ulidtko: for most of your configs*
[15:26] <reisio> ulidtko: traditionally they go in ~/.packagename, not ~/.config/packagename
[15:26] <reisio> we're in a transition period ATM
[15:26] <sacarlson> kuldeepdhaka: did you try google "ncurses examples" look at some code
[15:26] <ulidtko> yeah, i know that
[15:26] <kuldeepdhaka> no,, not secret, its source is available on sourceforge,i developed my own gui using c graphics now i want to design it in ncurses
[15:26] <reisio> ulidtko: just sayin' :)
[15:26] <ulidtko> % ls -d .* | wc -l
[15:26] <ulidtko> 215
[15:26] <ulidtko> ;/
[15:26] <reisio> kuldeepdhaka: well then you should be able to read the docs #ncurses gives you and manage it yourself
[15:27] <reisio> kuldeepdhaka: should be simpler than proper GUI
[15:27] <reisio> ulidtko: heh
[15:27] <ulidtko> that's in ~ offc
[15:27] <reisio> yeah I rather like having stuff in ~/.config
[15:27] <reisio> I'm not sure I should, but I do
[15:28] <kuldeepdhaka> reisio, from where i can get ,ncurses source code,,i got a source from vexus and invisible island which one to use
[15:28] <Shojo> could anyone tell me: with a DHCP router, would the internal ip match the external ip?
[15:28] <N3M35I5_> hey guys im getting mutt to email me the contents on a text file on a @daily crontab.  but at the end of the command could i put <command> | rm <file>
[15:29] <reisio> kuldeepdhaka: you should be able to get it from your package manager
[15:29] <ulidtko> Shojo: your question is ambigous
[15:29] <reisio> kuldeepdhaka: might have to use apt-get or apt-src or something, I'm not sure
[15:29] <chillpill> hi
[15:29] <Shojo> how so?
[15:29] <geirha> N3M35I5_: Pipe is wrong there. You want && or ;
[15:29] <reisio> the actual upstream page is at http://www.gnu.org/software/ncurses/ AFAIK
[15:29] <ulidtko> Shojo: "internal" and "external" ip-s of *your* machine (connected to router) will match if the router in the "Bridge mode"
[15:29] <reisio> but again, you should use the package manager whenever you can
[15:30] <N3M35I5> geirha: so mutt etcc... < ~/file.text && rm ~/file.text ???
[15:30] <Shojo> ulidtko:  do the standard settings come with Bridge Mode enabled or i just install it normally?
[15:31] <geirha> N3M35I5: Yes, that'll remove the file after mutt has run, and if mutt was successful
[15:31] <ulidtko> Shojo: no, default settings use NAT and internal DHCP usually. You'd have to configure the device
[15:31] <N3M35I5> geirha, cool thanks dude
[15:31] <geirha> N3M35I5: If mutt was unsuccessful, it will not rm the file. That may or may not be the behavior you want.
[15:31] <Shojo> ofc i do not with the externam ip to match the internal one
[15:31] <Shojo> do not wish*
[15:31] <Atterall> Odd PDF navigation Q: Anyone know anyway for one to have a single pdf document where one view of the document displays the last page and the other view displays the next page ?
[15:31] <ulidtko> Shojo: why?
[15:31] <N3M35I5> yeah thats perfect geirha :)
[15:31] <Shojo> more security?
[15:32] <geirha> N3M35I5: great :)
[15:32] <ulidtko> Shojo: accompanied with more problems with network software, like voip and p2p
[15:32] <ulidtko> is it worth that?
[15:33] <ulidtko> your ISP will already provide you enough protection from the Internet
[15:33] <Shojo> ulidtko:  if guess if i run the standard installation on it it would be working just fine..
[15:33] <ulidtko> it would. Do what you want -- by why asking question then?
[15:34] <Shojo> because i didn't know about the bridge mode, and either it was a standard mode
[15:34] <Shojo> thank you, ulidtko
[15:34] <hypershock> ulidtko: does this [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1547036] relate to your problem?
[15:35] <BlueWolf> Shojo: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc961399.aspx or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol
[15:35] <sacarlson> Shojo: no normaly dhcp is used to setup a nat (network address translation) so that one external ip is shared with many internal lan clients
[15:35] <ulidtko> hypershock: no
[15:35] <ulidtko> not even close
[15:36] <ulidtko> in winecfg i have "alsa" driver and the "test audio" button WORKS
[15:36] <ulidtko> and some games have sound
[15:36] <ulidtko> but one isn't
[15:36] <ulidtko> and i'm tired with wine&pulseaudio stuff, so just want to run a system without the latter
[15:36] <minixvbox> !appdb | ulidtko
[15:36] <Shojo> ulidtko:  i'm sorry, i will read that later, right now ive been learning alot and i need a time out, just needed your advice :) And thanks again
[15:37] <hypershock> ulidtko: do you have all the wine extra stuff installed like wine-doors and winetricks installed.
[15:37] <ulidtko> yeah, appdb writes about that game "everything works, including sound"
[15:37] <ulidtko> yes, winetricks is
[15:37] <funnyfingers> In centos generating new ssh host keys is as easy as deleting them and starting up sshd.  What needs to be done for Ubuntu 11.10
[15:37] <hypershock> which game is it
[15:37] <jrib> ulidtko: what do you mean by it "doesn't work"?  Were you not able to kill pulse?
[15:38] <BlueWolf> Shojo: And me :'(
[15:38] <ulidtko> jrib: i was (with sudo though), but on speaker-test it respawns again
[15:38] <jrib> ulidtko: I don't understand what you are saying
[15:38] <ulidtko> jrib: i was able to kill pulseaudio perfectly fine
[15:39] <jrib> ulidtko: so you've resolved your issue?
[15:39] <ulidtko> but when i execute speaker-test, it respawns again
[15:39] <ulidtko> no.
[15:39] <jrib> ulidtko: you may need to log out and back in for the file to be read
[15:39] <ulidtko> the code for respawning in inside the pulseaudio client library
[15:39] <ulidtko> if it cannot find the daemon, it executes it
[15:40] <jrib> ulidtko: I don't use pulse on my ubuntu install.  All I do is add that line I believe
[15:40] <psicho> hello people
[15:40] <chillpil1> hello psicho
[15:40] <psicho> i'm trying to get the linux headers by this command : sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) , but this fails because of : E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-2.6.38-11-generic
[15:41] <psicho> any idea how to resolve this issue ?
[15:41] <jrib> psicho: what ubuntu version?
[15:42] <psicho> i'm running on 11.10 x64
[15:42] <minixvbox> psicho: 11.10 uses the 3.0 kernel
[15:42] <escott> psicho, just install linux-headers it will install the matching header version
[15:42] <sacarlson> psicho: try sudo apt-get update ;  if you haven't already
[15:42] <SDX> Do I need Symmetric multi-processing support built into the kernel to make use of a multi-core processor?
[15:42] <minixvbox> !info linux-headers
[15:43] <escott> !info linux-headers-generic | psicho
[15:43] <psicho> minixvbox but i'm running it with the 2.6.4 kernel
[15:43] <minixvbox> escott: thanks
[15:43] <minixvbox> psicho: so this is an updated ubuntu from 11.04?
[15:44] <psicho> yes
[15:44] <minixvbox> psicho: why aren't you using the 3.0 kernel?
[15:44] <psicho> my linksys AE1000 wifi adapter does not work with it
[15:46] <minixvbox> psicho: did you need to install the wifi when you were using 11.04? or did it work out of the box?
[15:47] <sacarlson> psicho: if you can't find it in the present ubuntu respoitory I guess you could just pull the deb from the older and install it,  not sure what harm it could cause if that's what your running now
[15:47] <psicho> when I had 11.04 I did not have the wifi adapter . I have bought it just recently
[15:48] <minixvbox> psicho: i see, is this wifi a usb thing?
[15:48] <psicho> i have found this tutorial how to make it work : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwMiHiaWtPI
[15:48] <psicho> but in the description it says i need the linux headers
[15:48] <psicho> yes its a usb wifi adapter
[15:49] <minixvbox> psicho: if you want to install it for the 3.0 kernel you'll need the 3.0 kernel headers
[15:50] <minixvbox> psicho: can you use the ethernet cable to install the headers?
[15:50] <Fuwex> I've got sound routed through HDMI via a receiver to my television. When DPMS kicks in in order to put the display to sleep, sound is also put to sleep. Is it possible to remidy this, or do I have to disable dpms alltogether? I've got an nVidia ION board. I'm unsure whether this is a problem with DPMS/Xorg or the nvidia drivers
[15:50] <psicho> yes, thats how I'm connected to the net right now, view ethernet cable
[15:50] <Nexus6> psicho : chipset adapter ?
[15:51] <minixvbox> psicho: so why not install the 3.0 headers?
[15:51] <qw-Russian> help me please
[15:51] <psicho> hmm okey
[15:51] <psicho> Nexus6: Realtek
[15:51] <haylo> what is the command line prompt for the ubuntu text-unstaller? my little backed up iso thing is using ubiquity and i would like to use the advaced installer or at least the text based on
[15:51] <psicho> this is the driver I'm trying to compile : 2011_0427_RT3572_Linux_STA_v2.5.0.0.DPO
[15:52] <minixvbox> psicho: if you want to make the wifi work with the 3.0 kernel and you need the 3.0 headers then you'll have to install them rather than the previous kernel's (11.04) headers
[15:52] <haylo> or at least try i guess
[15:52] <qw-Russian> after install Windows XP in VirtualBox, Windows XP didn't see my USB Flash
[15:52] <qw-Russian> ?
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> qw-Russian,  you have to confitgure vbox to see real usb devices.
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> qw-Russian,  see the  vbox docs.
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> and i think you may need to install the non-ose version. or was it just an extension these days? i forget. for the feature.
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> !vbox
[15:53] <Nexus6> psicho : driver rtl8187 http://wireless.kernel.org/download/compat-wireless-2.6/
[15:53] <qw-Russian> i am see 'faq' but i am not see my problem
[15:54] <psicho> Nexus6,  thanks
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> vbox has a rather detailed manual..
[15:54] <haylo> you have to make vbox able to acess your system bus i think
[15:54] <Sc56> hello
[15:54] <haylo> its kind of a pain realy to be honest- but you will ge tit
[15:55] <xaxes> hey folks.. I need libpython2.5 on natty.. what's the best/easiest way?
[15:56] <xaxes> adding karmic to sources.list doesn't fix it.. trying to build it by myself end in some errors
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> you dont mix release repos.
[15:56] <minixvbox> xaxes: never mix different releases repos
[15:56] <xaxes> okay ;)
[15:56] <xaxes> next time ;)
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> installing differnt versions of python can be tricky
[15:57] <minixvbox> xaxes: why do you need 2.5?
[15:57] <xaxes> dependency of another tool
[15:57] <minixvbox> xaxes: which is...
[15:57] <pksadiq> how can I run a [/usr]/bin command from grub? like say  /bin/rm temp/*   , this command has to be run from grub, very before rc.local is executed, [or] any [better] idea?
[15:58] <xaxes> xbmc probably ^^ it has a module that tries to load libpython2.5 stuff
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> pksadiq,  from grub is a bit 'silly' you COULD pass a init=/bin/bash (or similer) to drop to a shell befor any of the system loads up.
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> pksadiq,  what are you needing to do from this command?
[15:59]  * Dr_Willis thought there was some setting/service that could auto clean temp on boot also..
[15:59] <pksadiq> Dr_Willis: I need to run the loadkeys command to disable on of my malfunctioning keys while ubuntu is loading
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> pksadiq,  you could try to redo the initrd perhaps.  not sure  of any other good place to put such a thing. or in an early service
[16:01] <tull> anyone can help me with my problem? i use ubuntu 10.04, i've installed nvidia drivers, and now on boot i have no window manager and i have nvidia drivers not activated
[16:01] <pksadiq> Dr_Willis: where would you recommend to put the code?
[16:01] <minixvbox> tull: how did you install the nvidia drivers?
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> pksadiq,  Initrd is a preload type thing that runs befor the main os loads.
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> Ive rarely needed to mess with initrd.
[16:02] <tull> minixvbox, i install nvidia drivers with driver hardware software
[16:02] <pksadiq> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks for reminding initrd, I'll try to find a way to mess my computer ;)
[16:02] <tull> minixvbox, i've installed nvidia drivers with driver hardware software
[16:03] <tull> minixvbox, now on every boot i have to activate them
[16:03] <minixvbox> tull: sorry? do you mean the additional drivers ui?
[16:03] <xaxes> minixvbox: some tips regarding python2.5 on natty? ;)
[16:04] <xaxes> is there an additional repo or something like that?
[16:04] <minixvbox> xaxes: sorry, never needed older python releases myself, so i'm not sure what to suggest to you
[16:04] <qw-Russian> (
[16:04] <xaxes> minixvbox: is there a standard way to get support for older packages?
[16:04] <sacarlson> xaxes: I think I see python2.5 in ppa for natty
[16:05] <xaxes> another fact I forgot to mention: I need ARM-packages ;)
[16:05] <sacarlson> xaxes: but I would look for the package above it that needs it in ppa first
[16:05] <minixvbox> xaxes: not to my knowledge, you might be able to use a ppa, but all ppas aren't supported
[16:06] <xaxes> thank you both :)
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> 'use the source luke' :)
[16:07] <SDX> Do I need Symmetric multi-processing support built into the kernel to make use of a multi-core processor?  On one hand, it takes up one processor slot, but on the other hand...
[16:07] <xaxes> tried to Dr_Willis  ;)
[16:07] <minixvbox> SDX: spm is default i think
[16:07] <minixvbox> smp
[16:07] <tull> SDX, are you a programmer?
[16:08] <tull> SDX, if not the multi-process support is already built into kernel
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> the build-dep option to apt-get is handy when compiling differnt verisons of things in the repos
[16:08] <SDX> tull, I know how to nest statements in Python, but that's about it.
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> guys, here's the error message I get  when I try to reset Unity 3D -- Unity 2D is ok --  hints & tips? -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/866688/
[16:09] <minixvbox> SDX: if your processor supports it the default kernel will use smp
[16:09] <Mech0z> Can I install this https://secure.logmein.com/labs/ with apt-get somehow?
[16:10] <minixvbox> SDX: no need to change any settings
[16:10] <SDX> tull, multi-processing support is already built into my current kernel, but I'm going to compile kernel 3.2.9, and I'm trying not to add un-needed things to it.
[16:10] <minixvbox> Mech0z: you could try teamviewer instead, i know that works
[16:10] <rexor> SDX, so if i don't need SMP just unmark it in kernel confing
[16:10] <tull> SDX, ok
[16:11] <Mech0z> minixvbox I want to use this to transfer files, isnt this better for it?
[16:11] <g0tcha> hey guys, im running ubuntu server 10.04.4 LTS, i dont want to upgrade to 11.10, does "apt-get upgrade" only updates the packages or to the new 11.10 version?
[16:11] <sacarlson> SDX I don't recall the method but you can pull the configs used to build your previos kernal and use those settings or compare them
[16:11] <SDX> rexor: Right, that's what I was doing until I got to SMP.  :p
[16:11] <minixvbox> Mech0z: just transfering files, i thought logmein was like remote desktop support
[16:12] <wylde> g0tcha: it just updates 10.04, you use dist-upgrade to get to 11+
[16:12] <rexor> g0tcha, it will upgrade only packages
[16:12] <tull> minixvbox, i've used the additional drivers Ui
[16:12] <operatorplik> halo
[16:12] <rexor> g0tcha, you need run dist-upgrade
[16:12] <minixvbox> tull: ok
[16:12] <rexor> g0tcha, for version upgrade
[16:12] <g0tcha> thanks alot guys
[16:12] <tedi> Greetings people, anyone know any good guide on getting proper drivers for Radeon 6870 , currently says Graphic drivers: VESA: BARTS :/
[16:12] <Mech0z> minixvbox I just need it to give me an access to my server, the server is behind a firewall I dont control and dont have a static ip I can connect to
[16:13] <tull> minixvbox, i know how to use terminal if i must
[16:13] <minixvbox> Mech0z: does it support ssh? wouldn't that be easier if you're just transfering files?
[16:13] <SDX> sacarlson: My previous kernel came with installing my current distro, so it has all sorts of modules and such that I don't need.
[16:13] <minixvbox> !nomodeset | tull
[16:14] <Mech0z> minixvbox how should I get a hold of it?
[16:14] <tull> minixvbox,  i have no black screen
[16:14] <Mech0z> I cant connect to my server due to the firewall
[16:14] <SDX> sacarlson: Hyperthreading support on an amd64 architecture, for instance.
[16:14] <minixvbox> Mech0z: ahh yes, you'd need to know the ip
[16:14] <wylde> Mech0z:  you can use a dynamic dns service to solve the ip issue, for the firewall issue you'll need some way for the machine behind the friewall to initiate a connection to your workstation
[16:15] <sacarlson> SDX maybe so but if you have disk space I don't think the modules will load unless needed
[16:15] <minixvbox> tull: what does happen with the driver installed?
[16:15] <Mech0z> wylde that wont help me
[16:15] <tull> minixvbox, the guide says: Installing proprietary nvidia drivers usually makes this option no longer necessary, so it may not be needed to make this option permanent, just for one boot until you installed the nvidia drivers.
[16:15] <minixvbox> tull: did yu say you were using 10.04?
[16:15] <Mech0z> the place I live have one big IP wit hlike 100 other users
[16:16] <SDX> sacarlson: SMP in particular can only be built-in or omitted completely.
[16:16] <tull> minixvbox, yes i'm using ubuntu 10.04
[16:16] <Mech0z> so I want to use loogmein as a middleman to connect through
[16:16] <minixvbox> tull: ah, i think it was a bug report where the ui says the driver isn't in use but it actually is
[16:16] <wylde> Mech0z:  if 100 people had the same IP the network wouldn't function. Each machine has it's own ip address on the internal network
[16:17] <theGrg> Hey, just want to ask about adding noapic to the boot options. Do I just type "noapic" at the end? (my boot line ends with: " ... quiet splash -- " . Should I write it after the " -- " or before them?
[16:17] <SDX> sacarlson: I'm not too concerned.  I'm asking out of curiosity at this point.
[16:17] <Mech0z> yes, but that IP is a local ip like 192.168.. not a global ip
[16:17] <Mech0z> so cant be used to connect to
[16:17] <tull> minixvbox, with the driver installed, if i start ubuntu and i'm in my account, i see no window edge if i don't activate driver with Additional Drivers UI
[16:18] <Mech0z> anyway when I try to install with rpm -ivh logmein,..... I get failed dependencies: /bin/sh
[16:18] <minixvbox> tull: oh, so a different issue
[16:18] <wylde> Mech0z: Are you able to forward a port on either network?
[16:18] <Mech0z> I am on my local router, I dont have access to the shared router
[16:18] <Mech0z> so no
[16:18] <tull> minixvbox, and Aspect is always on Nothing on start
[16:18] <minixvbox> !rpm | Mech0z
[16:19] <tull> minixvbox, yes i think it's a different issue
[16:19] <tull> minixvbox, it's a problem with configuration
[16:19] <Mech0z> will install the tgz instead then
[16:19] <SDX> tull: Installing AMD drivers from the Additional Drivers UI under Mint 9 rendered Gnome's window manager unusable if that helps you at all.
[16:19] <wylde> Mech0z: suppose you could try using alien to convert the rpm to deb if there's no tarball or deb
[16:20] <minixvbox> tull: hmm, sorry i've never had many problems with the nvidia drivers myself, hope somebody can help you
[16:20] <tull> SDX,  thanks but i have an Nvidia card
[16:20] <wylde> I have Nvidia tull, what's the problem?
[16:20] <wylde> sorry wasn't following your convo
[16:21] <tull> wylde, i've installed nvidia drivers with the UI method
[16:21] <wylde> using jockey?
[16:21] <tull> wylde, yes
[16:22] <tull> wylde, and now on every boot i have Aspect "Nothing" an no window edge
[16:22] <wylde> tull:  and the new drivers aren't working?
[16:22] <wylde> hmm
[16:23] <sacarlson> SDX: well if it fails to work you can try your original config on the new kernal build or compare it, it's located here /boot/config-`uname -r`
[16:23] <tull> wylde, if i activate them with Jockey, then is ok
[16:23] <tull> wylde, but on next boot it's the same
[16:23] <minixvbox> tull: when you say window edge do you mean the borders? have you tried doing compiz --replace?
[16:23] <SDX> sacarlson: Okay, thank you.
[16:23] <wylde> tull: which version are you using? My primary OS is 10.04 using the proprietary drivers from Nvidia, and I have no issues
[16:23] <tull> minixvbox, yes borders
[16:24] <faissal> hi guys, i got a volume icon in the notification area and another one next to the clock, can i remove the icon from the notification area ?
[16:24] <tull> wylde, 10.04 with propetary drivers with this issue
[16:24] <minixvbox> tull: if compiz --replace works all you need to do then is add it to startup apps
[16:25] <wylde> ok I'm using the driver I down'oaded from Nvidia, it even managaes to remove the nouveau driver when used on a fresh install
[16:25] <minixvbox> tull: or if you are using metacity it would be metacity --replace
[16:25] <SDX> faissal: What desktop environment do you have installed?
[16:25] <tull> minixvbox, can i try to start "compiz --replace" on every boot?
[16:25] <faissal> SDX : gnome
[16:26] <minixvbox> tull: sure, but try it first to see if that solves your problem then you could add it to startup
[16:26] <Gaflana> Hi all!
[16:26] <tull> minixvbox, now  itry
[16:26] <SDX> faissal: Oh.  I'm sorry, but I'm not very experienced with Gnome.  Xfce is one of the first things I install.
[16:26] <faissal> SDX: np
[16:27] <Gaflana> Who make his own OS?
[16:27] <minixvbox> SDX: you could use xubuntu
[16:27] <minixvbox> SDX: then you don't get unity :) (happy days!)
[16:28] <Gaflana> U know what Shattlowrth is a gay? And Its real good!
[16:28] <SDX> minixvbox: I recently switched to Debian.  The only reason I'm here is that the Debian channel is almost dead most of the time.  :p
[16:29] <mlpokn> Hey guys. How can I set the framebuffer in Ubuntu?
[16:29] <minixvbox> SDX: ahh, i use arch but i like to help sometimes
[16:29] <Gaflana> hi
[16:29] <SDX> minixvbox: I did enjoy Xubuntu, though.
[16:29] <Gaflana> its simply
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> mlpokn,  its normally enabled by default. theres some kernel options, or the fbset command to tweak its settings.
[16:29] <oCean> Gaflana: do you have an actual support question?
[16:29] <Gaflana> just enable it
[16:29] <Gaflana> sure
[16:29] <mlpokn> dr_willis. I want to set the framebuffer res
[16:30] <minixvbox> !fb | mlpokn
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> fbset can do that on the fly. or check the grub options i think.
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> I tend to Disable the framebuffer. :)
[16:30] <faissal> Hi guys, I got another question, When i press the media control on my keyboard for volume up or down, I got this Freaking Ugly OSD overlay ICON : http://i40.tinypic.com/fw3b4x.png   anyone knows how i can replace it with a decent volume ICON ?? thanks
[16:30] <tull> minixvbox, i had my problem only with my account, now it's resolved with command "compiz --replace" on every boot
[16:31] <tull> minixvbox, thank you very much
[16:31] <minixvbox> tull: yay, i helped :)
[16:31] <mlpokn> ty minixvbox, That would not work. It's for Grub not for Grub2
[16:31] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Why disable the framebuffer? That way you can't view images/videos in TTYs...
[16:31] <Gaflana> How can I to be using Ubuntu for anal sex?
[16:31] <faissal> the icon in itself is fine, its just that it seems to be low-resolution !!
[16:31] <minixvbox> !yay | tull
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> theadmin,  it slows down my console speeds. :)
[16:31] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Ah... ok
[16:32] <tull> !yay | minixvbox
[16:32] <minixvbox> tull: i tend to stay away from compiz, always been rather buggy for me, xfwm is all i need
[16:33] <tull> minixvbox, xfce is too simple for me, i prefer gnome
[16:33] <overlord> Hey guys
[16:34] <overlord> Now that Notes iw removed from Ubuntu One web interface, how am I supposed to sync with Tomboy?
[16:34] <pangolin> overlord: I think tomboy still supports dropbox
[16:34] <Mech0z> ehm I need to use the Hamachi clinet with commandline, how is I found out where it is installed os I can do that from terminal :s
[16:35] <pangolin> not 100% sure though
[16:35] <tull> minixvbox, \can i have compiz on 1 account?
[16:35] <overlord> pangolin: Tomboy supports many services, but I need my notes from Ubuntu One :P
[16:35] <tull> minixvbox, can i have compiz only on 1 account?
[16:36] <minixvbox> tull: sure, every user can use whatever desktop you want them to
[16:36] <pangolin> overlord: I'm sure you can still get them from the web interface, #ubuntuone can help.
[16:36] <Jas> any xubuntu experts here??
[16:36] <Jas> I need a little help
[16:36] <Gaflana> Why me kicked ?!?! Reason? stp it please!
[16:36] <Gaflana> stop
[16:36] <overlord> Ok, thanks
[16:36] <minixvbox> Jas: define expert :)
[16:37] <tull> minixvbox, ok thanks
[16:37] <minixvbox> tull: no worries :)
[16:37] <Jas> well.. someone who is good at it..I need help , I can't connect to internet on it
[16:37] <minixvbox> !wifi | Jas
[16:38] <ultrixx> just out of curiosity - why was that guy kicked?
[16:38] <minixvbox> ultrixx: off-topic
[16:38] <mlpokn> wiggers
[16:38] <mlpokn> wassup
[16:38] <Jas> no actually, GPRS connection through phone modem connected via bluetooth
[16:38] <Apeman> test test test - just checking for "checkbox" do not let me  interrupt you...
[16:38] <minixvbox> Jas: oh sorry, then i'm not an expert :)
[16:39] <tull> minixvbox, how can i use xfce on ubuntu?
[16:39] <minixvbox> !test | Apeman
[16:39] <minixvbox> !xfce | tull
[16:40] <minixvbox> gotta love that bot
[16:40] <Jas> I can connect easily on ubuntu 11.10 but when I use xubuntu, I am able to pair the device , but after that I don't know what to do
[16:40] <minixvbox> !botsnack
[16:43] <Edico> hi
[16:43] <theadmin> Hey Edico
[16:43] <dimakx> http://www.artecnoprogetti.it
[16:44] <dimakx> dns http://www.artecnoprogetti.it
[16:44] <minixvbox> dimakx: don't advetise
[16:44] <Edico> I want to install ubuntu 12.04 beta 1. Can I upgrade from 12.04 beta 1 to 12.04 final release?
[16:44] <elham> hi
[16:45] <zykotick9> !final | Edico
[16:45] <BrandonBolton> Is there any way I can create a ext2.ko file system? I can not figure out how to do it.
[16:45] <Edico> thanks zykotick9
[16:45] <vostro> Hey guys, what's the virtual box that I should use to run XP?
[16:46] <elham> I wanna to instal ubuntu 11.10 on my old hardware pc . (ram:256 /hard:80 ) can i ?
[16:46] <theadmin> vostro: There is only one Virtualbox.
[16:46] <vostro> WIne?
[16:46] <Edico> does 12.04 beta 1 has many bugs?
[16:46] <minixvbox> vostro: preferably the one in the repos
[16:46] <zykotick9> Edico: yes
[16:46] <theadmin> Edico: It's not supported here.
[16:46] <pangolin> !12.04
[16:46] <zykotick9> Edico: ask for support in #ubuntu+1
[16:46] <ultrixx> vostro: wine is not "a virtualbox"
[16:46] <theadmin> elham: No, our current RAM minimum is 512 meters. Try Lubuntu/Xubuntu
[16:46] <BrandonBolton> vostro, There is only one VirtualBox. Just remember to give your account rights to it. That'll save you a lot of time.
[16:47] <elham> theadmin✌ oh , thanks
[16:47] <ultrixx> lilvaratep: virtualbox is a hypervisor from Oracle
[16:47] <minixvbox> !info virtualbox | lilvaratep
[16:47] <Jas> i guess.. no one here knows the answer to my ques.. :/
[16:48] <BrandonBolton> Jas, what is your question?
[16:48] <hypershock> all: lol | vostro: use virtualbox-ose vs the other one from oracle. as it contains better code.
[16:48] <anyon> Morning buntus.
[16:48] <Jas> xubuntu, gprs connection through phone modem connected via bluetooth
[16:48] <Jas> xubuntu 11.10
[16:48] <theadmin> hypershock: Virtualbox-ose doesn't exist anymore, the main Virtualbox edition and Virtualbox-OSE are now merged, and the non-free componnents are released as an extension pack
[16:49]  * hypershock goes "DOH!"
[16:49] <anyon> vbox is no more opensource?
[16:49] <callaghan> Hello, I just tried to download Precise Beta 1 and went to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Beta1 . There is a link to the Netboot version of Ubuntu (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/12.04/), but this Link is dead. Is there another way to get the netboot image for precise beta 1?
[16:49] <BrandonBolton> Jas, you are trying to connect your phone to have like a wireless hotspot with Xubuntu?
[16:49] <theadmin> anyon: It still is, there is just no more separate edition for it
[16:49] <minixvbox> anyon: vbox is still gpl
[16:50] <pksadiq> Jas: phone make ? model? did you win pairing your phone? adding it as a modem?
[16:50] <anyon> some parts of it r closed source?
[16:50] <elham> i have pinguy on my laptop now , i installed KDE on it and now i have both gnome and kde on a user ! so it makes some problem for me .if I remove KDE then my gnome will have problem ?
[16:50] <theadmin> anyon: As said before, the closed-source componnents are currently available as an extension pack from Oracle.
[16:50] <minixvbox> callaghan: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 questions please
[16:50] <Jas> just normal dial up connection through phone modem connected via bluetooth and yes , the pairing is easy
[16:50] <Jas> and
[16:51] <callaghan> minixvbox: well it's no precise question :) it's a problem with the ubuntu homepage
[16:51] <Zaitzev> heh, my brother fubar'd his laptop trying to install ubuntu
[16:51] <Jas> I am able to do all the settings in network manager
[16:51] <elham> ( pinguy : ubuntu + gnome 3.2 )
[16:51] <Jas> under mobile broadband
[16:51] <Jas> but it just doesn't shows up in the network manager
[16:51] <callaghan> minixvbox: but thanks, i'll take a look there as well
[16:51] <xangua> elham: ask on Pinguy channel/forum/mail list
[16:52] <mlpokn> guys. I have a really slow startup. What sould I do>
[16:52] <Jas> on ubuntu 11.10 , it's easy, I am using it now
[16:52] <BrandonBolton> callaghan, You can download the desktop one and install the netbook desktop environment.
[16:52] <Jas> but not on xubuntu
[16:52] <elham> xangua✌ but it's ubunto base with gnome 3.2 !
[16:52] <theadmin> BrandonBolton: netbooT and netbooK are not the same thing.
[16:52] <theadmin> !derivatives | elham
[16:52] <pangolin> elham: but it isn't Ubuntu. try a Pinguy channel
[16:52] <minixvbox> mlpokn: develop patience or switch to a lighter buntu? (lubuntu)
[16:53] <callaghan> BrandonBolton: i mean the netboot version, which is just a few MB large, so I get the latest packages when I install it ;)
[16:53] <BrandonBolton> theadmin, callaghan, Sorry I read that wrong.
[16:53] <mlpokn> it's xubuntu
[16:53] <pksadiq> Jas: try using the Blueman packge
[16:53] <mlpokn> I am getting this at startup?! Could it be it? atkbd serio0: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xab on isa0060/serio0).
[16:53] <elham> theadmin✌ ubottu pangolin ok , thanks and sorry :)
[16:53] <Jas> ...how??
[16:54] <mlpokn> for like 20 times . startup
[16:55] <apparle> hi guys :)
[16:55] <BrandonBolton> Is there any way I can create a ext2.ko file system? I can not figure out how to do it.
[16:55] <mlpokn> Also, I would like to disable the "Loading animation". Is that possible?
[16:56] <apparle> I'm planning to buy Lenovo Ideapad Z570 Are there any major linux specfic issues with it?
[16:56] <mlpokn> Figured it out.
[16:56] <mlpokn> I should remove quiet splash
[16:56] <const_antine> How can I see the downstream and upstream data rate in my taskbar?
[16:57] <pksadiq> Jas: I'm using ubuntu 10.04, which too doesn't shows the phone, so I installed the Blueman package, which allows me to use dial-up, and then its shown in the network list
[16:57] <const_antine> (this is for Gnome)
[16:57] <Ferrari> how I change the password of root?
[16:58] <bastidrazor> Ferrari: root doesn't have a password
[16:58] <Jas> ok... do you know where I can download it from and how can I try it on xubuntu, coz since I don't have network I can't download it there
[16:58] <bastidrazor> const_antine: which version of ubuntu?
[16:58] <BrandonBolton> Ferrari: sudo passwd
[16:58] <_Marcus> Hi
[16:58] <xangua> !noroot | BrandonBolton
[16:59] <_Marcus> How do I remove the password for root on my machine?
[16:59] <const_antine> bastidrazor: lucid
[16:59] <Ferrari> BrandonBolton and when the sudo not working?
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> guys, here's the error message I get  when I try to reset Unity 3D -- Unity 2D is ok --  hints & tips? -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/866688/
[16:59] <BrandonBolton> xangua, Sorry, I didn't know that.
[16:59] <Ferrari> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440
[16:59] <Ferrari> sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[17:00] <geirha> Ferrari: Ouch. chmod 777 should NEVER be used.
[17:00] <zykotick9> Ferrari: i'd try booting to recover and changing the permission of sudoers fine then
[17:00] <zykotick9> s/fine/file/
[17:00] <bastidrazor> !info netspeed lucid | const_antine
[17:01] <const_antine> thanks
[17:01] <pksadiq> Jas: if you are not connected to internet, sorry I have no idea with xubuntu,
[17:01] <elham> so I'm going to install ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop then if i want to upgrade it to 12.04 beta how much is the size of things should i download ?
[17:02] <theadmin> !precise | elham
[17:02] <Jas> ok.. thanks anyway, I'll see how I can get the blueman package to download it here and transfer it to xubuntu
[17:02] <bastidrazor> const_antine: after you install it right click the top panel > add to panel > find netspeed in the list
[17:03] <tr33m4n> elham: if you're upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 you'll possibly end up downloading approx 300-500meg of updates
[17:03] <_Marcus> How do I check if root has a password set for it?
[17:03] <aaGp> wish app should i install to have a ftp server??
[17:04] <pangolin> _Marcus: Ubuntu locks the root account, there is no password. use sudo
[17:04] <KM0201> aaGp: an FTP server?  vsftpd is a nice simple one (all command line though)
[17:04] <_Marcus> pangolin: I think I set one
[17:04] <elham>  sorry i'm new to linux and also here :) thanks for ur helps :)
[17:04] <pangolin> _Marcus: then you can't get support here. We don't support setting a root pass
[17:05] <allain> I'm trying to install ubuntu 11.10 onto on acer aspire 7250 computer and the screen goes gray (even an plugged in one) when I use nomodereset.
[17:05] <_Marcus> pangolin: Do you support changing it so that it is possible for you to support?
[17:05] <KM0201> how to brick ubuntu:  listen to people who say you shouldn't use sudo and set a root password
[17:05] <tr33m4n> allain: don't use no nomodereset then :
[17:05] <allain> If I try to run without the fag, the screen goes completely black and the plugged in monitor appears
[17:05] <allain> err flag
[17:06] <aaGp> km0201: will try it
[17:06] <aaGp> 10x
[17:06] <allain> Suggestions on how to get it installed and get my screen visible?
[17:06] <KM0201> aaGp: https://security.appspot.com/vsftpd.html
[17:07] <escott> allain, is this the livecd?
[17:07] <KM0201> aaGp: another helpful link on installing/configuring..  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-vsftpd-ftp-service-server/
[17:07] <callaghan> In case someone here has the rights to change this: The link for the netboot image for Precise Beta 1 at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Beta1 points to the wrong location (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/12.04/). The correct link is: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/precise/
[17:08] <hypershock> _Marcus: actually you can set a password for root, while it's not recommended you can still do it. just do "sudo bash" enter your password, then do "passwd" and follow the prompts. afterwards you can use su and that password to get root. you can still use su and your own password for one deals. however considering what I just said about bash, you might as well leave root secure and just grab a root shell only when you need it.
[17:09] <aaGp> thanks a lot
[17:09] <usuario> hola
[17:09] <OerHeks> callaghan, join #Ubuntu+1 for that support Q
[17:10] <Fyodorovna> hypershock, your not supposed to suggest or give the instructions for a root password on this channel.
[17:10] <zykotick9> hypershock: plus, "sudo bash" is never the right answer...
[17:12] <callaghan> OerHeks: sry, but it's not a question. I figured since here are so much more people and presumably some of them might have the rights to change the broken link in the ubuntu wiki I might as well post this problem here.
[17:13] <aaGp> KM0201: i installed it from the software manager, but i dont see the app anywhere, where should i've look??
[17:13] <zykotick9> callaghan: if the people in #ubuntu+1 know about it - i wouldn't worry yourself about it
[17:13] <KM0201> aaGp: i told you, its all command line
[17:14] <KM0201> aaGp: just to be clear right, you want an FTP server right, not an ftp client?
[17:14] <allain> escott, yes it is.
[17:14] <callaghan> zykotick9: you're probably right ^^
[17:15] <aaGp> KM0201: yes an a server
[17:15] <OerHeks> callaghan, we can't change the wiki, #Ubuntu+1 is the place to be, or contact the wiki-authors kate steward, address at the bottom of the wiki
[17:15] <allain> I'm booting it off the CD first to see if I have hardware issues. Seems I do. Would running it off the hard drive change anything?
[17:15] <callaghan> OerHeks: ok, thank you
[17:15] <aaGp> KM0201: i mean i got it that its all command line, but how i  know where is installed?
[17:15] <escott> allain, you could try the alternate installer, but it would be a good idea to figure out why the display is gray in the livecd. what exactly do you mean by gray? the X11 test stipple
[17:16] <allain> I mean, lit, but not displaying anything.
[17:16] <Fyodorovna> allain, what is the graphic card/chip?
[17:16] <faissal> muppets
[17:17] <allain> Fyodorovna: http://pastebin.com/jZJ7yNhW
[17:17] <happyfac1> Can I get GNOME 3 help in here? Or only unity?
[17:17] <allain> sorry, brb, my kids...
[17:18] <faissal> happyfac1: whats your question
[17:18] <happyfac1> I installed gnome 3, but the window controls are messed up, there's only an "X" to close and it looks wrong
[17:19] <anyon> LOL
[17:19] <anyon> wtf
[17:19] <anyon> lol
[17:19] <theadmin> happyfac1: That's the standard gnome3 window behaviour.
[17:19] <anyon> wtf
[17:19] <_Marcus> anyon: ?
[17:19] <_Marcus> anyon: Stop spamming.
[17:19] <faissal> happyfac1: thats normal
[17:20] <anyon> _Marcus, stfu LOL
[17:20] <Fyodorovna> happyfac1, messed up?
[17:20] <_Marcus> !lol | anyon
[17:20] <anyon> ubuntu quited unexpectedly
[17:20] <anyon> that's why i lol
[17:20] <_Marcus> No need to spam, though.
[17:20] <anyon> buffer error i suppose
[17:20] <happyfac1> theadmin: faissal: the "x" doesn't looks like it's the right png image or something, it's using the unity theme I think. How do I change the theme?
[17:20] <Fyodorovna> happyfac1, you can change them in the gnome-tweak tool.
[17:20] <happyfac1> Fyodorovna: ooh ok thanks
[17:21] <faissal> happyfac1: u have a screenshot ?? use tinypic for example to upload it
[17:21] <derspankster> 10.04.4 can't add app to list in right click (on folder) "open with" menu.  Anyone know of a fix for this?  I can't find one myself.
[17:21] <anyon> guys, can i run ubuntu on eeepc?
[17:21] <oCean> anyon: control your language here, please. Telling others to stfu is not acceptable here
[17:21] <faissal> anyon: yes
[17:22] <tr33m4n> anyon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Installation
[17:22] <apparle> ubottu: hcl
[17:22] <anyon> oCean, did I ask you for permission for what to do? I'm a grown man.
[17:22]  * krycek sthu
[17:22] <theadmin> apparle: The channel has a set of rules, linked to in the topic.
[17:22] <happyfac1> faissal: http://oi42.tinypic.com/29bhkwy.jpg It looks like it's cut off, maybe it's by design but it looks wrong to me
[17:22] <pangolin> !guidelines | anyon Read this please
[17:22] <anyon> oh hi pango, no need to, ur the man
[17:23] <derspankster> 10.04.4 can't add app to list in right click (on folder) "open with" menu.  Anyone know of a fix for this?  I can't find one myself.
[17:23] <faissal> happyfac1: i see, let me try to figure this out
[17:23] <fluxy> Hello. I am looking for a recent tutorial/guide on setting up suphp / suexec on ubuntu (11.10). any suggestions please?
[17:23] <zykotick9> derspankster: um, nautilus' main purpose is to open folders?  Do you want to use a different filemanager to open the folders?
[17:23] <faissal> happyfac1: which version of ubuntu r u running ?
[17:24] <happyfac1> faissal: 11.10
[17:24] <IronSight> What is the current best app for screen recording with opengl support, high quality audio, without the need for jack audio server (which never seems to work for me).
[17:24] <allain> any ideas?
[17:24] <IronSight> Is it still GLC?
[17:24] <Fyodorovna> !best
[17:24] <derspankster> No zykotick9 - what I want to is add an app to this list of open with apps when I right click on a folder.  Say for instance, movie player for a folder of mp3's.
[17:25] <Fyodorovna> IronSight, ^^^
[17:25] <Guest6469> how to proper start compiz in oneiric classic gnome?
[17:25] <apparle> theadmin: What happened? Which rule did I violate?
[17:25] <IronSight> Fyodorovna, there is usally a best in that particular software, since well, most of it in linux runs horrid in linux :(
[17:26] <IronSight> at least for opengl capture
[17:26] <Fyodorovna> IronSight, best is a channel no no.
[17:26] <bastidrazor> derspankster: normally, when you right click a file you can select 'Other Application'.. after doing so the next time you right click the same file type it'll offer that application as a choice in the drop down
[17:26] <faissal> happyfac1: not sure, but u can try changing the theme, either in the appearance settings, or install gnome tweaktools, or gtk-chtheme. maybe someone else has an idea ?
[17:26] <oCean> apparle: I don't think theadmin meant you
[17:26]  * IronSight restates his question then...
[17:27] <theadmin> apparle: Sorry, was meant for anyon
[17:27] <happyfac1> faissal: I changed everything to default using gnome-tweak-tool and I think it's good now.
[17:27] <faissal> happyfac1: good to know :)
[17:27] <mrdeb> hi
[17:27] <happyfac1> faissal: though, the ubuntu theme does look better. Do you know where I can get more themes?
[17:27] <derspankster> yes, bastidrazor but that no longer works in 10.04.4 but it does in 11.04, 11.10 etc.
[17:27] <IronSight> Is there an app that does opengl capturing of the screen with full great quality audio without using Jack, is quite stable for longer videos.
[17:28] <faissal> ubuntuthemes.org happyfac1
[17:28] <happyfac1> ty
[17:28] <faissal> np
[17:28] <krycek> sl
[17:28] <apparle> Ohh ok.. Its been long time since I visited ubuntu IRC. I thought asking things to ubottu has been made against the rule or what :-D :-D
[17:30] <theadmin> Bah, brb from another host. Gotta configure my irssi.
[17:30] <Guest4988> how to start in proper way compiz in oneiric classic gnome?
[17:31] <Guest4988> I could't manage this
[17:32] <KM0201> Guest4988: embrace the horror... classic will likely be gone in 12.04  might as well get used to it now, or switch to KDE/XFCE/LXDE
[17:32] <derspankster> or stay with 10.04 or 11.04
[17:33] <KM0201> derspankster: well, eventually those will go EOL... so really that's not a solution
[17:33]  * satyanash will probably get 12.04 with no DE.. and then customize it to his linking..
[17:34]  * KM0201 thinks that will be a ton of work
[17:34] <satyanash> s/link/lik
[17:34] <derspankster> I still run my server on 8.04
[17:34] <KM0201> derspankster: server and desktop is quite different
[17:34] <satyanash> KM0201, not really.. if you use fvwm2.. :D
[17:35] <derspankster> Well, if you insist and it becomes necessary I'll change distros.
[17:35] <Guest4988> should I use another window manager for nice effects?
[17:35] <indicator> hi, when I run glxinfo, It segfaults
[17:35] <indicator> same with compiz
[17:35] <indicator> how come?
[17:36] <derspankster> glxgears
[17:36] <derspankster> oops
[17:37] <donal> Hi all
[17:37] <donal> I'm trying to install tomcat7 on ubuntu 11.04
[17:37] <indicator> hm, glxgears segfaults too
[17:37] <Guest4988> Compiz work in Unity?
[17:37] <indicator> no
[17:38] <donal> I tried "apt-get install tomcat7" but I get an error "Unable to locate package tomcat7"
[17:38] <minixvbox> Guest4988: compiz is unity's default window manager so yes
[17:38] <Guest4988> minixvbox:thanks
[17:38] <donal> do I have the wrong package name, or is the repo that contains this package not in the defaults ?
[17:39] <Dreadtower> Really dumb newbie question
[17:39] <Dreadtower> How do I run a .sh file?
[17:39] <minixvbox> !find tomcat | donal
[17:39] <donal> Dreadtower ./filename.sh
[17:39] <minixvbox> !find tomcat natty | donal
[17:39] <Dreadtower> Thanks :)
[17:39] <Dreadtower> I tried that strangely
[17:39] <fluxy> !find suphp oneiric | fluxy
[17:40] <donal> you might need to do ther following first "chmod 777 filename.sh"
[17:40] <minixvbox> donal: looks like tomcat7 is in oneiric but not natty
[17:40] <donal> is that the repo name?
[17:41] <minixvbox> donal: no, natty is 11.04, oneiric is 11.10, never mix repos
[17:41] <Dreadtower> Thx - actually 'sudo ...' of course
[17:41] <Dreadtower> Thx
[17:41] <donal> hmmmm, so how can I install this package from 11.04 ?
[17:41] <minixvbox> donal: there might be a backport or a ppa
[17:42] <minixvbox> !backport | donal
[17:42] <minixvbox> !ppa | donal
[17:42] <cyril_> #undernet
[17:42] <minixvbox> donal: any reason you're not using 11.10 anyway?
[17:43] <donal> don't think my hosting company provide it
[17:44] <const_antine> is it possible to measure power consumption of different components?
[17:44] <const_antine> cpu, hdd, video
[17:44] <minixvbox> donal: i'd have thought you'd want to stick with lts releases for servers
[17:44] <donal> I do, but that's what my hosting company have given me
[17:45] <const_antine> tried pwrkap, but the version on canonical dbs is using obsolete module, so i cannot test it out of the box
[17:45] <allain> Hey. Is there a list somewhere of ubuntu 12.04 supported hardware?
[17:46] <_Marcus> allain: You should ask #ubuntu+1
[17:46] <minixvbox> allain: it may be better to just check the kernel version in use and see what that supports
[17:46] <minixvbox> allain: also 12.04 questions in #ubuntu+1
[17:47] <allain> heading there now, just wasn't aware.
[17:49] <Oxicore> möpi
[17:50] <escott> donal, chmod +x is better than 777. you probably dont want to be executing something that anyone on the system can modify
[17:51] <happyface> after all that, I think I'll stick with unity :)
[17:53] <theadmin> !test
[17:54] <theadmin> Good.
[17:55] <donal> hi....I'm still struggling to install tomcat7 on 11.04
[17:55] <donal> I tried enabling backports, though to be honest I've no idea if there even is a backport available
[17:57] <Fyodorovna> donal, http://askubuntu.com/questions/37822/how-do-i-install-apache-tomcat-7
[17:57] <donal> fyodorovna, that's for 11.10 or higher
[17:57] <donal> i'm on 11.04
[17:58] <Fyodorovna> donal, 11.04 will only be supported up to april I believe.
[17:58] <donal> well, I don't have any choice, because that's all my hosting company provides
[17:58] <manuel_> i just downloaded teampeak on linux and the file is a .run extension which i have executed using chmod +x filename.run. i hit enter and i takes me to the licensed agreement in the terminal. it doesnt say what to do next.... it hasnt finished installing so help?
[17:59] <bin> Hi my wired ethernet connection is being a pain. When I connect my internet will work for about 5 seconds as it should and then grinds to a halt or does not work at all. I've tried stopping the avahi-daemon but that did not work.
[17:59] <theadmin> manuel_: Read the EULA?
[17:59] <bin> I'm using 10.04 btw
[17:59] <manuel_> theadmin: yes i scrolled all the way down to the end of the agreement. it doesnt say anything
[18:00] <theadmin> manuel_: I guess you need to exit the reader. Try hitting q or esc
[18:00] <kid___> tab key
[18:00] <tr33m4n> bin: Have you tested with other hardware? Another computer perhaps, to make sure it is not your router?
[18:00] <manuel_> theadmin: thanks i hit "q" now i can finish. good help :)
[18:00] <bin> yes I'm on the network with 3 other computers right now and they are all working fine.
[18:01] <theadmin> manuel_: That's how you normally exit "less", the thing which is commonly used to read files and/or command output :D
[18:01] <tr33m4n> bin: what ethernet card are you using?
[18:01] <bin> tr33m4n: All the other comps are on wired connections. If i boot into another distro on this same comp it works fine as well.
[18:01] <raleeha> hello
[18:02] <bin> tr33m4n: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Gigabit express
[18:02] <Fyodorovna> donal, actually eol is in october my mistake.
[18:03] <donal> thx
[18:03] <manuel_> theadmin: i tried esc but it ddidnt nothing. thanks for the help
[18:03] <bin> tr33m4n: BTW just last night it was working fine after I did a reboot. I've rebooted many times today and put the eth0 interface down and up disabled some daemon re enabled them alld o not work.
[18:03] <gid0> hi all
[18:03] <Raggs> hi all, what is a safe / partition size?
[18:03] <Casey> can someone help me with a php problem?
[18:03] <tr33m4n> bin: suggest trying some of the suggestions given here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10283670
[18:04] <gid0> how do I install WINE
[18:04] <gid0> on a server
[18:04] <gid0> so I can ms .net framework 2 mono app
[18:04] <tr33m4n> bin: I'm not entirely sure what to try personally, however check that thread
[18:04] <theadmin> gid0: You'd better just install mono
[18:04] <theadmin> Raggs: Depends on what other partitions you want to create
[18:05] <Raggs> just / and home
[18:05] <bin> tr33m4n: Ok will do
[18:05] <theadmin> Raggs: Then about 30G I guess, then again depends on how much stuff you gonna install and other things
[18:06] <Raggs> 30 G for / ? i was thinking more like 10
[18:06] <gid0> theadmin: it's already compiled with mono
[18:06] <minixvbox> Raggs: depends what you want to install and other things
[18:06] <theadmin> gid0: Does it run with mono? If so, it'll run with .NET
[18:06] <minixvbox> Raggs: 10gb is fine for me
[18:06] <gid0> theadmin: it doesn't run at all
[18:07] <gid0> theadmin: runs fine under Windows 7
[18:07] <Raggs> ty minixvbox
[18:07] <theadmin> gid0: Ah then it's a Mono problem, but I don't think Wine runs the .net framework
[18:07] <qw-Russian> i would like install game Counter strike but i didn't have this to do
[18:07] <minixvbox> Raggs: what are you planning to use it for?
[18:07] <qw-Russian> help me please
[18:07] <Raggs> minixvbox, normal desktop use
[18:07] <Ebron> Do you know of good comparisons between truecrypt and cryptsetup. Interested in performance, security and ease of use (command line only)
[18:07] <Raggs> plan a 10G / and a 40G /home
[18:08] <minixvbox> Raggs: anything huge you need to install (like vms or video editing stuff)?
[18:08] <Raggs> VMS?
[18:08] <minixvbox> Raggs: vm virtual machines
[18:08] <Raggs> no editing stuff
[18:08] <donal> hi, does anyone know what is the equivalent of add-apt-repository on 11.04 ?
[18:08] <Fyodorovna> Ebron, not really ubuntu support material just a heads up.
[18:09] <Raggs> minixvbox, i will install vmplayer
[18:09] <theadmin> donal: "add-apt-repository" works on Natty just fine, should at least
[18:09] <minixvbox> Raggs: not virtualbox?
[18:09] <tr33m4n> qw-Russian: you will have to install a program called 'wine' which allows you to run Windows applications on Ubuntu. You should check out http://www.winehq.org for information about the compatibility of Counter Strike when running through Wine
[18:09] <qw-Russian> what is time now?
[18:09] <Raggs> no, prefer vmplayer
[18:09] <donal> I tried running "add-apt-repository ppa:tomcat7-ubuntu/backports" but got an error "add-apt-repository: command not found"
[18:09] <Casey> could someone help me with a mysql syntax error
[18:10] <donal> Casey: maybe I can
[18:10] <minixvbox> Raggs: your choice, you'll probably want more than 10gb / (unless it stores your vms on /home)
[18:10] <tr33m4n> donal: install python-software-properties and try that command again
[18:10] <fufftsch> /JOIN #KUBUTU
[18:10] <Raggs> it does
[18:10] <qw-Russian> ooo no no i could not have install wine beacose this programm very very bad working
[18:10] <minixvbox> Raggs: ah, there you go, 10gb should be fine for /
[18:11] <donal> tr33m4n: why would I need to install python-software-properties to run add-apt-repository ?
[18:11] <Casey> donal: i'm  trying to install a chatroom on my webserver and when it trys to make the tables i get this error"14) NOT NULL, userid int(11) default NULL, banneduserid int(11) default NULL, r' at line 1"
[18:11] <Raggs> ok, if ya get mored minixvbox try vmplayer sometime
[18:11] <Ebron> Fyodorovna: sure it is, cryptsetup is officially supported and the help-section on the web provides installation instructions and support for both.
[18:11] <aethelrick> donal: missing a sudo perhaps?
[18:11] <minixvbox> Raggs: no thanks, i prefer open source
[18:11] <donal> no, I'm logged in as root
[18:11] <donal> I tried with sudo too
[18:11] <Raggs> so do i, when it works as well
[18:11] <ironhalik> Hello - how can I adjust my laptops fan speed? Its spinning even at idle, when on windows or arch linux it was much less agressive
[18:11] <aethelrick> donal: k
[18:11] <Fyodorovna> Ebron, not a comparison with trucrypt though. :)
[18:11] <tr33m4n> donal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[18:12] <donal> Casey: can you post the SQL file as a question on stackoverflow.com
[18:12] <donal> then send me the link and I'll have a look
[18:12] <tr33m4n> donal: python-software-properties contains the tool add-apt-repository
[18:12] <donal> ok, thanks, I'll try that
[18:12] <Ebron> Fyodorovna: I see your point. perhaps I should rephrase my question to asking about the benefits of choosing the built-in support of cryptsetup ;)
[18:12] <Casey> donal: what SQl file do you need?
[18:12] <Ebron> very well
[18:12] <Ebron> google .. here I come :(
[18:13] <Fyodorovna> Ebron, and links to such which I doubt exist beyond personal opinions, which is al you will get here anyway.
[18:13] <Fyodorovna> ;)
[18:15] <ndfkx> hi
[18:15] <Shojo> hi
[18:15] <reisio> hi
[18:15] <_Marcus> hi
[18:16] <Shojo> echo
[18:16] <elijah> Is there a way to visually see what mode VI is in?
[18:17] <mr_boo> is the latest ubuntu 11.10 ?
[18:17] <DJones> mr_boo: Yes
[18:17] <mr_boo> does it come with realtime kernel?
[18:17] <Quantum_Ion> I am still using 10.04 LTS not ready to upgrade yet
[18:18] <gid0> how i install realtime kernel
[18:18] <tr33m4n> mr_boo: think there are some unofficial ppas somewhere with a realtime kernel, but I don't think it does officially at the moment
[18:18] <Quantum_Ion> When is the next LTS release due out ?
[18:18] <mr_boo> tr33m4n: that explains why ubuntustudio no longer has
[18:18] <erespond> hi... am have troble on my vga make my desktop gui bad, any ide for help me...
[18:18] <escott> !oneiric | Quantum_Ion
[18:19] <gid0> my vga no work cygwin
[18:19] <joyfulgirl> Howdy, folks! I'm running into trouble using an Oneiric bootable pendrive (created with usb-creator-gtk, per the wiki); I can boot initially, but after installing some updates (so that hopefully I can eventually install the proprietary nvidia driver and quiet down the darn fan on this card) and rebooting, grub can't seem to find the partition any more!
[18:19] <tr33m4n> mr_boo: yes :(
[18:19] <faissal> 12.04 Quantum_Ion
[18:19] <escott> !precise | Quantum_Ion
[18:19] <mr_boo> the reason i'
[18:19] <erespond> please....
[18:19] <erespond> hi... am have troble on my vga make my desktop gui bad, any ide for help me...
[18:19] <mr_boo> the reason i'm gonna upgrade is that my ubuntustudio 10.04 has become crashy upon changing graphics card
[18:19] <Quantum_Ion> okay thanks
[18:19] <joyfulgirl> In fact, from my Arch install, /dev/sdb1 (the Ubuntu partition on the usb stick) no longer shows up (though /dev/sdb does). Thoughts?
[18:19] <gid0> my vga no work cygwin, any ide for help me?
[18:20] <mr_boo> erespond: what has happened?
[18:20] <const_antine> how can i find how much power my system is consuming?
[18:20] <tr33m4n> mr_boo: what card are you running?
[18:20] <escott> joyfulgirl, those are a bit fragile. you might have better luck with something that doesnt use a loopback on FAT if your bios supports it. I think ubootnetin is a direct boot
[18:20] <mr_boo> tr33m4n: i've swapped down to an old en7950x2 card
[18:20] <lpdaskain> werd up son
[18:21] <gid0> my ati 5600 no play the minecraft any ide for help me
[18:21] <donal> tr33m4n: your advice about python-software-properties, thanks YOU ARE A LEGEND!!!
[18:21] <joyfulgirl> escott: Hmm, fair enough.
[18:21] <erespond> mr_boo, my vga broken,
[18:21] <mr_boo> erespond: describe the problem in more detail
[18:21] <tr33m4n> donal: my pleasure :)
[18:22] <gid0> no ide for help me?
[18:22] <roca> hola
[18:22] <joyfulgirl> escott: Honestly, I might just do a hard disk install to a spare partition; I'm about to give a quick talk on switching to linux, and I'd hoped to demonstrate that actual install while doing it! Unfortunately, having to talk over the fan is just not an option.
[18:22] <roca> gola
[18:22] <lpdaskain> cools
[18:22] <anyon> Is there a pr0n browser for ubuntu 11.10?
[18:22] <escott> joyfulgirl, you could also try a hard disk install directly to the usb, although not all bioses like that
[18:22] <roca> vo
[18:22] <anyon> Is there a pr0n browser for ubuntu 11.10? *UNITY*
[18:22] <tr33m4n> mr_boo: not too sure about that one
[18:23] <roca> hola
[18:23] <joyfulgirl> escott: Yeah, I suppose so.
[18:23] <gid0> no ide for help me?
[18:23] <punk> hi guys. i've got interesting trouble with my bluetooth device. Searching formus has no results. Maybe You can help me?
[18:23] <mr_boo> tr33m4n: i just swapped cards without changing anything in ubuntu
[18:23] <mr_boo> tr33m4n: my old 8800 just broke so i had to install this old card
[18:23] <anyon> !pr0n
[18:23] <anyon> !info pr0n
[18:23] <joyfulgirl> Thanks, escott. Cheers, folks.
[18:23] <tr33m4n> mr_boo: I'd suggest a rebuild
[18:23] <anyon> !info porn
[18:23] <gid0> !precise | pr0n
[18:24] <roca> hola
[18:24] <shaneo> hey guys i just had to do a fresh install of ubuntu 11.10 amd64 and now my wifi is horrible i have tried the various methods around but none seem to work any suggestions
[18:24] <roca> holaaaaaaaa
[18:24] <roca> hika
[18:24] <gid0> hola
[18:24] <roca> bsndbasjdnsaç
[18:24] <gid0> my ati 5600 no play the minecraft any ide for help me
[18:24] <joyfulgirl> Thanks, pangolin.
[18:24] <erespond> mr_boo, am have install ubuntu, and befor i install it my gnome panel menu is good, so after am upgrade that bad
[18:24] <Fyodorovna> shaneo, can you define horrible?
[18:24] <shaneo> 24 \kb/s
[18:24] <erespond> mr_boo, ubuntu theme that I use is faulty air line so that I could hardly recognize the menu
[18:24] <shaneo> from 1.4mb
[18:25] <mr_boo> erespond: ouch
[18:25] <mr_boo> erespond: graphics seems to be messed up it sounds like
[18:25] <gid0> no ide for help me?
[18:25] <Fyodorovna> shaneo, have you run a speed test.
[18:26] <mr_boo> gid0: have you installed the graphics drivers?
[18:26] <shaneo> Fyodorovna: yes many times
[18:26] <tr33m4n> gid0: is there a native client for Minecraft or are you running it through Wine?
[18:26] <alpharishie> zxzx
[18:26] <shaneo> Fyodorovna: not getting any faster no matter what i do
[18:26] <gid0> its java
[18:26] <tedi> Can't get Dragon Age 2 to work :<
[18:26] <Fyodorovna> shaneo, have you restarted the router, and is it your router?
[18:26] <gid0> i tried to download ATI driver but it ask for .NET framework ? any idea?
[18:26] <shaneo> Fyodorovna: yes i have and no its not the router all other wifi devices are fine
[18:27] <theadmin> gid0: Eh, you got the wrong driver, this isn't Windows
[18:27] <erespond> mr_boo, yes
[18:27] <tr33m4n> gid0: are you trying to install ATI driver through wine??
[18:27] <Fyodorovna> shaneo, best thing here is to actually identify the card I would think.
[18:27] <gid0> tr33m4n: yes but it doesnt let me
[18:27] <shaneo> Fyodorovna: broadcom
[18:27] <Fyodorovna> shaneo, ah and uyou install the drivers?
[18:27] <mr_boo> gid0: if you use wine you must configure graphics in wine first
[18:28] <tr33m4n> gid0: you need to install the native graphics driver for Ubuntu. The driver you are trying to install is designed for Windows, not Linux
[18:28] <shaneo> Fyodorovna: i try to remove ath9k and it says it doesnt exist
[18:28] <erespond> am used Ubuntu 10.10 and install on lenovo g460 intel did any body have solution ???
[18:28] <shaneo> Fyodorovna:yes all drivers installed
[18:28] <gid0> tr33m4n: any idea how to do?
[18:28] <Fyodorovna> shaneo, broadcom is out of may pay area, but if you !broadcom the channel the bot will link you.
[18:29] <mr_boo> erespond: if possible try to navigate the system menu and look for System ? Administration ? Hardware drivers
[18:29] <shaneo> :) ok thanks
[18:29] <shaneo> !broadcom
[18:29] <giakar> ciao
[18:29] <giakar> list
[18:29] <erespond> all hardware drivers work well...
[18:29] <erespond> just can't used desktop effect
[18:30] <tr33m4n> gid0: open a new terminal session (open Gnome Terminal or equivalent) and run 'sudo jockey-gtk', or find Hardware Drivers in the Dash
[18:30] <mr_boo> erespond: maybe your card is too slow
[18:30] <nineu_oajsh> q
[18:30] <erespond> not am have troble on desktop effect
[18:30] <tr33m4n> gid0: Ubuntu should then let you know if you need any extra drivers for your system
[18:30] <escott> !gksudo | tr33m4n gid0
[18:31] <erespond> affter am trun on my desktop effect tha error on, Desktop effects could not be enable mr_boo
[18:31] <lpdaskain> hoi
[18:34] <Thanatos> i'm looking for a french help chan can u help me?
[18:34] <erespond> affter am trun on my desktop effect tha error on, Desktop effects could not be enable mr_boo
[18:35] <geirha> !fr | Thanatos
[18:35] <mr_boo> erespond: i'm not sure i truly understand
[18:35] <Thanatos> thx
[18:37] <erespond> mr_boo, am need remove all nvgida driver on my notebook how i do
[18:37] <mr_boo> erespond: open synaptic package manager and make a search for the nvidia drivers
[18:38] <brittyazel> or open Jockey and remove it from there
[18:38] <mr_boo> erespond: then just untick the checkboxes for those packages
[18:38] <megamanx1978> If I install ubuntu 12.04 beta1 can I upgrade to 12.04 later and if so do I use apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist upgrade?
[18:38] <brittyazel> yes you can
[18:38] <minixvbox> !final | megamanx1978
[18:38] <brittyazel> technically you will just be automatically updated to the latest release the day of
[18:38] <erespond> mr_boo, how i check what driver had i install on my notebook
[18:39] <punk> m, thanks guys. I just was thinking about Ubuntu 12.04 beta release
[18:39] <trteue> hi
[18:39] <brittyazel> it is a good release for sure
[18:39] <minixvbox> punk: 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[18:40] <mr_boo> erespond: if your notebook has nvidia chip then you could go to System ? Administration ? Hardware drivers in the menu
[18:40] <kantlivelong> why is it when i press "2" in the login screen it gets fuzzy and relaunches login? 11.10
[18:40] <punk> ok, thanks but now I just need an 11.10 support
[18:41] <thomedy> ls
[18:41] <megamanx1978> so is it a upgrade or dist upgrade?
[18:41] <brittyazel> dist-upgrade once you have the proper repositories enabled
[18:41] <thomedy> question i just downloaded phpmyadmin from ubuntu software...
[18:42] <punk> guys I need your help really. With my bluetooth adapter
[18:42] <thomedy> but where do i put my index.html's
[18:43] <theadmin> thomedy: phpmyadmin is a database administration software, not a web server -_-
[18:43] <megamanx1978> what repos would that be?
[18:43] <thomedy> oh you know waht of course im thinking of lampp
[18:43] <thomedy> sorry
[18:43] <kantlivelong> thomedy: you dont even need to use phpmyadmin from repo
[18:44] <mr_boo> is it true that the new ubuntu kernel is soo improved that a realtime kernel is no longer needed?
[18:44] <thomedy> i always get lampp and because i see so much phpmyadmin i just spaced out
[18:44] <thomedy> why is it that i dont need phpmyadmin
[18:44] <kantlivelong> thomedy: you can dl it and use it manually..
[18:44] <kantlivelong> no need for a pkg
[18:44] <kantlivelong> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0
[18:45] <kantlivelong> anyone know what thats about?
[18:45] <chown_> is that normal my top menu bar crashing a lot? so i have to restrat compiz in order to get my top bar?
[18:45] <minixvbox> mr_boo: linux is the kernel, and realtime kernels are usually for those who need it like audio profesionals
[18:45] <punk> thomedy: thanks, I'l use LAMPP next time
[18:45] <pangolin> !gpgerror | kantlivelong
[18:45] <tr33m4n> kantlivelong: looks like you havn't imported the signing key used by the ppa
[18:45] <pangolin> !gpg | kantlivelong
[18:45] <kantlivelong> pangolin: its imported
[18:45] <mr_boo> minixvbox: i record music in ubuntu
[18:45] <dluzius> need help directing install to right partition
[18:46] <pangolin> kantlivelong: there is a factoid for it. gimme a sec
[18:46] <megamanx1978> what proper repos will need to be enabled for the upgrade to 12.04 final
[18:46] <kantlivelong> pangolin: it synced ok a few days ago
[18:46] <mr_boo> minixvbox: will it work just as well with newer ubuntu versions that don't have the realtime kernels?
[18:46] <lpdaskain> excellent
[18:47] <minixvbox> mr_boo: i'm no expert in real time kernels but i doubt it
[18:47] <dluzius> want to install Mint 12 to specific partition
[18:47] <mr_boo> minixvbox: different roumors circle around
[18:47] <minixvbox> mr_boo: better to read up facts and benchmarks than listen to rumors
[18:47] <pangolin> !gpgerr | kantlivelong
[18:48] <mr_boo> minixvbox: some say the generic kernel has been optimized to the point a separate realtime kernel is obsolete
[18:48] <megamanx1978> Also thank you for the help
[18:48] <dluzius> am I making my question clear ?
[18:48] <kantlivelong> thanks pangolin :) maybe a key changed..?
[18:48] <minixvbox> !mint | dluzius
[18:48] <tr33m4n> dluzius: this is an Ubuntu channel
[18:48] <pangolin> kantlivelong: possibly but I doubt it.
[18:48] <gid0> ati driver failure in installation!
[18:48] <kantlivelong> odd
[18:49] <kantlivelong> pangolin: any idea why pressing 2 kills X at the login?
[18:49] <pangolin> none
[18:49] <kantlivelong> blah
[18:49] <mr_boo> i can't make up my mind if i shall install ubuntustudio 11.10 or not
[18:49] <kantlivelong> and my tty is all messed up :(
[18:50] <mr_boo> i've got 10.04 installed
[18:50] <demonspork> Ubuntu 11.10, I have tried to create a swapfile both with dd and fallocate, then use mkswap, but when I try to do "sudo swapon /swapfile" it says   swapon failed: Function not implemented
[18:50] <geirha> mr_boo: Might as well wait for 12.04 and upgrade to it.
[18:51] <mr_boo> so it is official that 11.10 was a bad release?
[18:51] <tr33m4n> mr_boo: I'd wait for 12.04 I reckon... How about just doing a rebuild with 10.04? Think your system will be a lot more stable for now
[18:51] <megamanx1978> or try 12.04 beta1 like me
[18:51] <jrib> mr_boo: no?
[18:51] <mr_boo> does 12.04 support a realtime kernel then?
[18:52] <jrib> !12.04 | mr_boo
[18:52] <ZyX-I> Hello. I have Epson Stylus SX230 and installed epson-inkjet-printer-201108w  driver on Ubuntu 10.04.4, but when I try to print something it hangs at “processing” stage.
[18:52] <geirha> mr_boo: I recommend 12.04 because it's an LTS release, not because 11.10 is bad.
[18:52] <tr33m4n> mr_boo: no, I don't think so
[18:52] <KM0201> mr_boo: not really, it's just that some ar ehaing a hard tiem adjusting to the new interface, that won't really change with 12.04.. so..
[18:53] <Cahata> hello
[18:53] <KM0201> suggesting a beta to an obvious newb is really not a good idea
[18:53] <mr_boo> maybe i should read up on how suitable the generic kernel is to music making
[18:53] <brittyazel> 11.10 isn't a bad release at all. I have had maybe 1 issue with it that got fixed in an update
[18:54] <Cahata> does someone knows does ubuntu encryption supports TPM in nearest future ?
[18:54] <theadmin> mr_boo: ...kernel has nothing to do with music at all
[18:54] <tr33m4n> theadmin: I beg to differ
[18:54] <mr_boo> theadmin: that's weird since i even got an error message starting the Rosegarden sequencer from the generic kernel
[18:54] <gid0> real time kernel = better mmusic splicing engine
[18:55] <tr33m4n> theadmin: a realtime kernel will have a lot less latency when recording with external audio interfaces and the such
[18:55] <theadmin> tr33m4n: I see. Huh. Pardon my ignorance.
[18:56] <mr_boo> i'll probably start with a rebuild of my 10.04
[18:56] <chown_> what could make my top bar windows vanish?
[18:56] <gid0> does ubutnu have a adobe flash cs3 alternative
[18:57] <tr33m4n> mr_boo: I'd definitely go with that option for now
[18:57] <aminoss> hello
[18:57] <aminoss> how to install a new language ?
[18:57] <aminoss> please ?
[18:58] <aaGp> go to System Settings
[18:58] <aaGp> suport languages
[18:58] <aaGp> there..
[19:00] <shubbar> i installed gnome-raw-thumbnailer and restated nautilus, but still not getting the thumbnails for raws
[19:00] <Mech0z> how do you list all a systems users
[19:01] <erespond_> how do i active desktop effect on ubuntu 10.10 intall on lenovo g460 intel ???
[19:01] <mr_boo> have you guys seen that roughly 5% of all operating system users use linux!
[19:01] <gid0> does ubutnu have a adobe flash cs3 alternative
[19:01] <chown_> Do u guys consider kde more stable than gnome?
[19:01] <mr_boo> it has increased over the last decade
[19:02] <NahsiN> KDE is not necessarily more stable than gnome but it is a much more mature desktop than gnome.
[19:02] <tr33m4n> Mech0z: try "cat /etc/passwd | cut -d":" -f1"
[19:02] <NahsiN> I have switched from Gnome to KDE last year and I must say I am not disappointed.
[19:02] <Mech0z> nice
[19:02] <theadmin> Mech0z: This is a bit tricky, but will do: cat /etc/passwd | awk '{FS=":" ; print $1; }
[19:03] <theadmin> Err, forgot a closing quote
[19:03] <Fyodorovna> NahsiN, thanks now do you have a support question?
[19:03] <chown_> NahsiN: is it hard for me to switch?
[19:04] <Fyodorovna> NahsiN, or use the nics so we know who your talking to. :)
[19:05] <NahsiN> Oh, I don't have a support question.......(was just answering chown's question).......I don't know how to use these "nick" things. I am fairly new...
[19:05] <mr_boo> are these statistics correct? http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
[19:05] <mr_boo> linux has recently become more popular than windows vista!
[19:06] <Fyodorovna> NahsiN, cool you can tab complete nics with a start of the nic. :)
[19:06] <Quantum_Ion> mr_boo, Yeah Windows Vista really sucks now
[19:06] <Quantum_Ion> You can do all kinds of cool stuff with Linux
[19:07] <Quantum_Ion> mr_boo, plus those Android phones are basically Linux kernel 2.6 anyway
[19:07] <NahsiN> chown_: hard it what sense? It definately is a breeze to install (google has a lot of pages). As for feel, it has a traditional desktop feel to it so it shouldn't take much time.
[19:08] <Quantum_Ion> I use Ubuntu Linux more than I use Windows Vista nowadays
[19:09] <Fyodorovna> Quantum_Ion, this is support chat is on #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:09] <NahsiN> chown_:  You might be thrown off by minor changes like single click to open stuff or the default hiding of a menu bar to the right hand side....But one can change all that. And this is a plus point for KDE. I find that almost everything is changable if you don't like the way it is now.
[19:11] <chown_> NahsiN: ty, im searching how to change on google, i hope i get it
[19:11] <NahsiN> chown_: Every now and then sometimes an app in KDE crashes (segmentaion faults usually) but it has a very robust system of getting back to normal almost immediately.
[19:12] <halohalohalo> hi
[19:12] <demonspork> does Ubuntu 11.10 support using a swapfile? Whenever I try to activate a swapfile and it just keeps saying "swapon failed: function not implemented"
[19:13] <theadmin> !purekde | chown_
[19:13] <Fyodorovna> demonspork, do you have a file or partition?
[19:13] <NahsiN> chown_:  http://blog.sudobits.com/2012/02/22/how-to-install-kde-on-ubuntu-11-10/ Just remember if you install this on your current Ubuntu you will both gnome and kde applications.
[19:13] <pfifo> I just noticed that my timezone is not listed anywhere in the 10.04's installer.
[19:14] <Flannel> demonspork: are you on Btrfs by any chance?
[19:14] <demonspork> Fyodorovna: a file, created with fallocate and I have used mkswap on the file to set it up. I also tried making the file with dd if=/dev/zero blah blah but it ends with the same result, "function not implemented"
[19:14] <demonspork> no
[19:14] <demonspork> Flannel: no
[19:14] <chown_> NahsiN: so if i have them both at login screen i could select into wich i want to login, is that right?
[19:14]  * varela_ is away: Xintando
[19:14] <NahsiN> chown_: Yep :)
[19:15] <pfifo> demonspork, are you swaponning as root?
[19:15] <mrFrog> I've never installed ftp on a server before (i hate the idea, i'd just as soon use sftp). But one of my clients requires it. Is vsftpd the standard one? Or is there something else I should try?
[19:15] <demonspork> pfifo: yes, via sudo
[19:15] <Flannel> demonspork: Is it chmodded 600?
[19:15] <pfifo> demonspork, are you using a custom kernel?
[19:15] <demonspork> Flannel: yes
[19:15] <chown_> NahsiN: oh, man thank you very much, some guy was talking to me to reinstall  my entire system with another distro with kde by default
[19:16] <Fyodorovna> demonspork, swapon is a partition command here is a old info link. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[19:16] <Flannel> demonspork: Can you please pastebin the terminal session where you're doing all of this?  The only thing I can think of is some small silly mistake somewhere, a second set of eyes may help.
[19:16] <aaGp> mrFrog: barely install vsftpd i recommed it!.
[19:17] <NahsiN> chown_: Yeah that;s also possible. Some ppl prefer it that way. YOu can multiple desktop envs or only one.
[19:17] <demonspork> pfifo: I am not sure, I am on a CR48 netbook and I used a script that automatically installed Ubuntu, I am not sure what method it used to get it working. Is there a way to check if the kernel in use is custom or the generic kernel
[19:17] <viktor133> i have a problem with my fan / cpu temp. it very quickly goes to over 90°c and regularly shuts down (i'm assuming due to overheating) can anybody give some help suggestions to increase fan speed?
[19:17] <pfifo> demonspork, that means no
[19:17] <CFHowlett> viktor133   laptop or desktop
[19:18] <wylde> demonspork:  uname -a
[19:18] <viktor133> CFHowlett, laptop, older model toshiba satellite
[19:18] <NahsiN> chown_: So if you just choose to install the KDE desktop environment on your current Ubuntu then just remember you will default apps for both the desktop envs. For example for file managers you will have Dolphin(KDE) Nautilus(Gnome)
[19:18] <NahsiN> chown_: Music Amarok (KDE) Banshee (Gnome)
[19:19] <demonspork> wylde: pfifo $ uname -a     Linux eccleston 3.0.13 #1 SMP Tue Feb 14 03:18:54 PST 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[19:19] <donal> I'm trying to start Tomcat on port 80 without success as described here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9549074/cant-start-tomcat-on-default-port-80
[19:19] <NahsiN> chown_: Some ppl don't like that so they prefer to reinstall to KDE only distro.
[19:19] <donal> does anyone have any ideas?
[19:19] <Flannel> demonspork: Which script did you use to install it?  I'm not familiar with CR48s at all.
[19:19] <CFHowlett> viktor133   hmm.  Well depending on exactly how difficult it is to access the fan, a drop or two of 3:1 oil might be advisable.  Failing that, I'd say a thorough cleaning.  See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeZnHSnxS0I
[19:19] <faissal> hey guys, can someone please tell me where is the firefox plugins folder ? i mean where is it
[19:19] <chown_> NahsiN: oh, i got it. now i understand.
[19:20] <Fyodorovna> faissal, why?
[19:20] <faissal> Fyodorovna: installing java7
[19:20] <demonspork> Flannel: I used this script: http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.com/2011/04/ubuntu-1104-for-cr-48-is-ready.html
[19:20] <myrmidette> what is the simplest way I can shave off the first 17 seconds of a video?
[19:21] <viktor133> CFHowlett, no doubt that will help, but isn't there anyway to increase the fan speed, it seems to run at low speed regardless of temp
[19:21] <CFHowlett> myrmidette   openshot razor tool
[19:21] <Fyodorovna> faissal, I don't think the ff plugin folder is what you need.
[19:21] <myrmidette> CFHowlett, it's seriously called razor?
[19:21] <myrmidette> that's awesome
[19:21] <CFHowlett> viktor133   myrmidette openshot is the app, razor is the tool.  See the software center
[19:22] <faissal> Fyodorovna: reading the instructions from their website thats what i need
[19:22] <myrmidette> kk
[19:22] <viktor133> CFHowlett, i'll check it out, thnks
[19:22] <myrmidette> it seems pretty big, almost 60mb to download
[19:23] <Fyodorovna> faissal, you might give the info on the channel, sometimes direct instructions from 3rd partities is not needed.
[19:23] <lpdaskain> snokelok
[19:23] <demonspork> Flannel: as requested, pastebin of me creating the swapfile: http://pastebin.com/NPa6FG6e
[19:23] <CFHowlett> viktor133   I'm no expert on fan issues, but you did say older laptop.  I'd suspect hardware + cleaning will go far towards a solution
[19:23] <faissal> Fyodorovna: ok, so what do you think i need ?
[19:24] <viktor133> CFHowlett, no doubt i should do that, just haven't done it before and a little uncomfortable cracking open my laptop, but first time for everything
[19:24] <Fyodorovna> faissal, I have no clue but with looking at the web and not knowing you actual release or anything about java 7 I see links for ppa's and such, you might just ask the channel on installing that java.
[19:25] <Fyodorovna> !info java7
[19:25] <CFHowlett> viktor133   see if you can find the OEM maintenance manual, take your time and respect your boundaries.  In fact, considering the age, a simple fan replacement might be an even better idea.  ID the part and search on amazon ...
[19:26] <faissal> Fyodorovna: ok thanks, ... i got the answer to my question anyway, the package name is sun-java-jre by the way !
[19:26] <wylde> demonspork:  just out of curiosity could you do a quick sudo fdisk -l  and let us know if you see any Linux swap partitions
[19:26] <Fyodorovna> faissal, cool. :)
[19:27] <faissal> Fyodorovna: thx for being so helpful !
[19:28] <Seryth> Setting up noip2, what do I put here: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/l8xfxkdm/Terminalserythubuntujacob_001.png ? Yes or No? What does it mean?
[19:28] <Fyodorovna> faissal, not sure I was bu tno problem :)
[19:28] <faissal> Fyodorovna: ;)
[19:28] <demonspork> wylde: there is no swap partitions or files currently in existence, only the one I am tryig to create
[19:29] <wylde> demonspork:  ok, just checking :)
[19:31] <ghostdog> halo
[19:31] <bin> I'm trying to download a rtl 8111/8168 driver from the realtek page and it won't even download. Are the links not working or something?
[19:31] <viktor133> CFHowlett, i'd want to speed up the fan untill i have time for cleaning, but can't find the app or tool you specified
[19:31] <CFHowlett> viktor133   as I did not recommend one yet ...
[19:32] <viktor133> CFHowlett <CFHowlett> viktor133   myrmidette openshot is the app, razor is the tool.  See the software center
[19:33] <CFHowlett> viktor133   did I really do that?  Damn fat fingers!  Sorry for the confusion viktor.  openshot has ZERO to do with fan.  This however ...https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fan_Speed_Control
[19:33] <wylde> viktor133: ---> man pwmconfig
[19:33] <wylde> or what CFHowlett said :)
[19:34] <viktor133> CHHowlett, np thnks, wylde, thnks
[19:36] <n0sq> nice - linksys wmp600n worked right out of the box - - but i can only get a 52 Mb connection even though the router is only 20 feet away
[19:37] <bin> Hello all I just installed the rtl 8168 ethernet driver and it showd up in ubuntu's Hardware drivers GUI.  But not I have no eth0 interface! Please help.
[19:39] <dougl> I cannot vncviewer into my ubuntu box from my ubuntu notebook after enabling remote desktop - where should I start?
[19:40] <commadorre> hi
[19:40] <dougl> hi
[19:40] <wdsnead> I am a sorta newbie to ubuntu and had connections to the other PCs on my home network. Now when I choose Places/Network I receive the following error message Could not display "network:///" Nautilus cannot handle "network" locations. What have I messed up?
[19:40] <commadorre> what s your name
[19:40] <wdsnead> David Snead
[19:41] <dougl> :)
[19:41] <commadorre> nice too meet you
[19:41] <wdsnead> back atcha!!!
[19:42] <escott> wdsnead, network:// isn't a protocol. are you trying to use samba in which case use smb://
[19:42] <CFHowlett> myrmidette   openshot do what you needed?
[19:42] <tr33m4n> wdsnead, are you running Nautilus as root?
[19:42] <wdsnead> I really didn't know I was running Nautilus so you see how much of a newbie I really am...
[19:43] <tr33m4n> wdsnead, ah ok, then you weren't running it as root, which is good
[19:43] <donal> I am logged in as root, but when I run  "sudo service tomcat7 start" it think it tries to start tomcat under another user, how can I check this?
[19:43] <donal> or is this even possible?
[19:43] <wdsnead> good...
[19:43] <dougl> how can I tell what version ubuntu is installed?
[19:43] <tr33m4n> donal, if you are logged in as root already you won't need to use sudo
[19:43] <donal> I know
[19:44] <Church> dougl: try cat /etc/*elease*
[19:44] <lolomg> hola alguien me puede ayudar? query plz
[19:44] <jpds> !es | lolomg
[19:44] <wdsnead> i guess the proper protocol is to say "tr33m4n, good..."
[19:44] <mrFrog> I'm running a web server and I've got a question about security. If I have a folder at /var/www/examplea.com and a folder at /var/www/exampleb.com, how do i make sure that php files in exampleb.com can't access files in examplea.com via "include ../" or such?
[19:44] <donal> is there any possibility that when logged in as root, it tries to start tomcat under another account ?
[19:44] <lolomg> gracias :)
[19:44] <dougl> Church, thanks - like a charm :)
[19:45] <donal> dougl I think uname -a would also work
[19:45] <myrmidette> CFHowlett, I don't really get how to use it
[19:45] <tr33m4n> wdsnead, is this a fresh install? and what version?
[19:45] <Church> uname -a shows only running kernel. useful only to tell version (if you need updates) and to tell if it's x86 or 64bit. not for telling distribution version
[19:46] <pfifo> mrFrog, enable safemode
[19:46] <donal> tr33m4n: is there any way to check what user account a service is running under?
[19:46] <CFHowlett> myrmidette   see https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=edit+video+with+openshot&oq=edit+video+with+openshot&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=1486l6489l0l6624l34l32l6l4l6l0l118l1580l18.4l22l0
[19:46] <Church> donal: ps -ef|grep procname
[19:46] <Church> check under which user it runs
[19:46] <SDX>   uname -r wouldn't be more concise?
[19:46] <wdsnead> tr33m4n, I am running ubuntu 10.04 and have had it installed for about 3 months now... worked great until about a week ago...
[19:47] <tr33m4n> donal, you can use top or htop to view processes under users
[19:47] <mrFrog> pfifo: looks like safe mode is deprecated in recent php versions - anything at a different level?
[19:47] <Fyodorovna> wdsnead, bummer, specifics?
[19:47] <Peytonien> Whenever I start Ubuntu the screen goes black, I kniw its running because I can hear a noise when I change my volume, can anyone help?
[19:47] <L3top_> Church: ls /lib/modules
[19:47] <Fyodorovna> !nomodeset | Peytonien
[19:48] <Peytonien> Thank you
[19:48] <tr33m4n> wdsnead, can you think of any software you've installed recently, or any system changes you might of made?
[19:48] <L3top_> Church: ls /lib/modules --sort time|head -1    will show most recent
[19:48] <donal> a ha!
[19:48] <donal> right, when I start tomcat it runs under the tomcat7 user
[19:48] <pfifo> mrFrog, Nothing I know of at the OS level, I believe there are some PHP settings that can alter behavior like that.
[19:48] <bin> Hello all I just installed the rtl 8168 ethernet driver and it showd up in ubuntu's Hardware drivers GUI.  But now I have no eth0 interface! Please help.
[19:49] <donal> but that user doesn't have permission to run apps on port 80
[19:49] <Fyodorovna> bin, did you reboot?
[19:49] <donal> how can I give him permission?
[19:49] <bin> Fyodorovna: yes about 2 times
[19:49] <theadmin> donal: Uhm, well, only root can start stuff on ports below 1024
[19:49] <wdsnead> fyodorovna, about a week ago I added a HP Photosmart 6515 printer and connected it wirelessly. Had trouble getting to the printer and then it suddenly connected and after that no connection to the PCs. I am connecting to the network wireless from my laptop.
[19:49] <pfifo> donal, ports 1-1024 are reserved for root
[19:49] <vuxor> guys, what commander do you use?
[19:50] <Fyodorovna> wdsnead, not sure about thatb myself.
[19:50] <tr33m4n> donal, maybe you need to add the user to the 'network' group, if it exists
[19:50] <Church> L3top: .. but not what you might be running, as you can select at boot different. and also you can run one distrib's kernel in another. so imho to tell distribution name/version cat /etc/*elease* should work best
[19:50] <SDX> bin: I've never had any luck with that either.  Have you tried uninstalling the driver?
[19:50] <pfifo> donal, so to answer your question, to allow that user to run something on port 80, simply give him root access
[19:50] <tr33m4n> donal, is there not a tomcat tutorial somewhere?
[19:50] <theadmin> vuxor: "commander"?
[19:50] <L3top_> Good thinking Church.
[19:50] <AndroUser> Hellooo
[19:50] <donal> I had a look at the ubuntu server guide, but it doesn't mention this
[19:51] <wdsnead> tr33m4n, did you see my response to Fyodorovna regarding what has changed???
[19:51] <L3top_> bin: cat /etc/network/interfaces does not show an eth0? just auto lo?
[19:51] <vuxor> theadmin, well file manager, but with two panes
[19:51] <KI7MT> donal, that's not a good idea, you should check you tomcat config to see how it sets which port to listen on, use4 root to start/stops the app, and tomcat7 to run.
[19:51] <vuxor> is there anything like that?
[19:51] <theadmin> vuxor: Try mc (clone of Norton Commander pretty much), xfe and mucommander
[19:51] <carpediembaby> hi. i need some help with mounting a windows pm0artition. i've been trying for hours now to no avail. in my fstab i have: /dev/sda7  /media/DATA2  vfat  rw,uid=ghufran,gid=ghufran  0  0
[19:52] <bin> L3top_: I'm restarting again. Ill check when it boots up. But when I did ifconfig -a no eth0 to be found.
[19:52] <carpediembaby> but it keeps giving me readonly error
[19:52] <vuxor> thanks
[19:52] <theunrealreality> test
[19:52] <luciano> olá, tem algum especialista em jsf
[19:52] <luciano> por ai:
[19:53] <luciano> Hi I need some help to configure jsf application...
[19:53] <LjL> !br | luciano
[19:53] <pfifo> carpediembaby, can you maount it manually?
[19:53] <tr33m4n> wdsnead, yes I did. Perhaps the default interface has changed in your Network settings... However printer issues keep me awake at night :P
[19:53] <bin> L3top_: Yeah no eth0 in there
[19:53] <L3top_> bin: if so...  echo "auto eth0" >> /etc/network/interfaces; echo "iface eth0 inet dhcp" >> /etc/network/interfaces; /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:53] <carpediembaby> pfifo: it mounts okay. but its still read-only
[19:54] <pfifo> carpediembaby, is the write protect switch on? look on the card and double check
[19:54] <wdsnead> Printers are easier in Ubuntu than they used to be back in the day when I used Unix....
[19:54] <L3top_> that is one line bin.
[19:54] <carpediembaby> pfifo: its a partition on a single drive on my laptop
[19:54] <pfifo> carpediembaby, can you give me the command your using to mount, and then pastebin the output of `mount`
[19:55] <tr33m4n> wdsnead, yes but printers back then were designed to work
[19:55] <carpediembaby> pfifo: i have this line in my /etc/fstab. i umount the partition, then use mount -a
[19:55] <pfifo> carpediembaby, ok, still need the pastebin
[19:55] <wdsnead> :)
[19:55] <L3top_> bin... I do everything wrong and begin as root... so add a sudo for each of those like so:
[19:55] <tr33m4n> wdsnead, and JUST printed, rather than scan, fax, make coffeee
[19:56] <tr33m4n> wdsnead, connect via wifi :p
[19:56] <carpediembaby> pfifo: you want the output of sudo mount -a?
[19:56] <L3top_> bin: sudo echo "auto eth0" >> /etc/network/interfaces; sudo echo "iface eth0 inet dhcp" >> /etc/network/interfaces; sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:56] <bin> L3top_: I did that and it said bind socket to interface: no such device    Failed to bring up eth0
[19:56] <pfifo> carpediembaby, no `mount` all by itself
[19:56] <wdsnead> any ideas how to fix the issue and keep the printer connection???? can't see nor ping any PCs but can ping the printer...
[19:57] <L3top_> can you pastebin the output of cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[19:57] <konam> i'm have an issue with ubuntu's s-video and vga output on my laptop.
[19:57] <pfifo> tr33m4n, can I brew a perfect pot of coffe, scan it, save it and then print out a copy on demand?
[19:57] <konam> when i fn+f4 (which activates the output through those ports) it recognizes the screen or projector just fine but if i touch the keyboard the projector loses the image (through the vga port) and if it's through the svideo to my TV the image gets messed up, it loses focus :S
[19:57] <Shojo> how do i get my screen not to turn off while a video is playing ?:P
[19:57] <Shojo> cuz i wana watch from bed :P
[19:57] <L3top_> bin can you pastebin the output of cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[19:58] <carpediembaby> pfifo: http://pastie.org/3513648 i also have umask in the fstab but removing/adding that didn't change anythng
[19:58] <SDX> konam: I read something about needing special XOrg config files for output that works with anything aside from a single monitor.
[19:58] <L3top_> !pastebinit bin
[19:58] <konam> SDX interesting, tell me more
[19:58] <tr33m4n> pfifo, not sure, ask cups :p
[19:58] <L3top_> oops
[19:58] <L3top_> lol
[19:59] <bin> L3top_: http://pastebin.com/46LBVWfQ
[19:59] <wdsnead> removing nautilus now to see if it helps resolve the issue....
[19:59] <lpdaskain> zordalord
[19:59] <pfifo> carpediembaby, can root modify files on /media/DATA2? sudo touch /media/DATA2/test
[19:59] <Shojo> pfifo:  uhm.... that would be teleportation,... mright
[19:59] <tr33m4n> wdsnead, I don't think that'll help
[19:59] <SDX> konam: I don't know much more.  I caught a glimpse of a box of text with that as its title as I was looking at the wiki for AMD's Linux graphics drivers.
[20:00] <L3top_> looking... everything running very slow over here... doing more on this processor than anyone should
[20:00] <tr33m4n> wdsnead, might confuse Ubuntu a lot more
[20:00] <carpediembaby> pfifo: no.
[20:00] <SDX> konam: Shall I look for it or do you have something other than an ATI/AMD card?
[20:00] <viktor133> wylde, if pwmconfig says There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed, what do i do then?
[20:01] <pfifo> carpediembaby, unmount the disk and then mount it like so `mount /dev/sda7 /mnt` then see if root can write
[20:01] <wylde> viktor133: hmmm, let me check something.
[20:01] <wdsnead> well it is gone so you recommend i reinstall... ok, will do now...
[20:01] <L3top_> bin... that is an interfaces file... is that the output of your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file?
[20:02] <tr33m4n> wdsnead, does any of this help you at all? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne
[20:02] <carpediembaby> pfifo: yes, then i can create a file :S
[20:03] <konam> SDX that's part of what is weird, i have a generic intel GMA. i have always had this issue through the svideo port but i didn't give it much thought since i just wanted to watch something on tv, not to type or anything. but i discovered today tha i also have it through the vga port while showing a ppt in class :D
[20:03] <ibm_enigma> hello . got a problem when i use a nano editor ctrl + any button dos't work so this prolblem is comes just today and no idea where to find the answer. have any idea for that?
[20:03] <LukeNukem> Hello
[20:03] <LukeNukem> my ip is renewing
[20:03] <wylde> viktor133:  you have lm-sensors installed? I'm looking up dependancies
[20:03] <LukeNukem> how can i stop this
[20:03] <fAz4> guys, i just deleted a file 10 minutes ago wrongly, can i return it
[20:04] <tr33m4n> LukeNukem, surely that's to do with dhcp on your router?
[20:04] <pfifo> carpediembaby, edit the fstab like so "/dev/sda7  /media/DATA2  vfat  defaults 0 0" then chown -R 1000:1000 /media/DATA2
[20:04] <viktor133> wylde, nope, shall install now
[20:04] <ibm_enigma> faz4  check in rubbish bin ;)
[20:04] <pfifo> carpediembaby, edit the fstab like so "/dev/sda7  /media/DATA2  vfat  defaults 0 0" then `chown -R 1000:1000 /media/DATA2`
[20:04] <bin> L3top_: Oh sorry. Here:  pastebin.com/8NrxM9Tu
[20:04] <LukeNukem> tr33m4n, any idea on how to disable it or something
[20:04] <wdsnead> well, after reinstalling nautilus the error message has been eliminated and Places/Network now opens but the other PCs are not appearing in the workgroup.
[20:04] <LukeNukem> i use DLINK
[20:04] <fAz4> ibm_enigma: i ****ed that dude :(
[20:05] <wylde> viktor133: alrighty
[20:05] <carpediembaby> pfifo: trying..
[20:05] <SDX> konam: I found this: http://maketecheasier.com/output-display-to-projector-in-ubuntu/2007/11/22
[20:05] <tr33m4n> LukeNukem, you can define a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:05] <SDX> konam: It doesn't say it's a problem specific to ATI/AMD cards.
[20:05] <viktor133> wylde, same msg when i run pwmconfig, no pwm-capable sensor
[20:05] <tr33m4n> LukeNukem, for the router I'd recommend leaving it on, however there should be an option to reserve ips based on your computers mac address
[20:06] <tr33m4n> LukeNukem, leaving dhcp on that is
[20:06] <LukeNukem> tr33m4n, its not that, on my router i have certain rules to 192.168.1.2 (apache and so on) if the shit keeps changing ip adress
[20:06] <LukeNukem> the rules are ignored
[20:06] <LukeNukem> i need to change ip adress to the correct one after checking in ifconfig every damn time
[20:06] <fAz4> i want my dear dot file back !! any recovery tool :(
[20:06] <wylde> viktor133: on thing I can think of is to check the specs of your motherboard. Mind you most reasobaly up-to-date mobo's have sensors.
[20:06] <SDX> LukeNukem: Maybe you're changing your neighbor's router.
[20:06] <carpediembaby> pfifo: it doesn't allow me to change permissions like that .. "Operation not permitted
[20:07] <Shojo> loool
[20:07] <SDX> LukeNukem: Sorry.
[20:07] <LukeNukem> ugly troll
[20:07] <LukeNukem> ,,|,,
[20:07] <SDX> LukeNukem: It was too good to pass up.
[20:07] <L3top_> bin that all looks right
[20:07] <tr33m4n> LukeNukem, so you have http:80 etc pointing at a specific IP, but you want your server to have that IP everytime you boot up right?
[20:07] <L3top_> bin can you reboot one more time please
[20:07] <wylde> viktor133: hmmm sec.. you might need to load lm-sensors first no just installed. It's been a while since I set that up
[20:08] <LukeNukem> tr33m4n, yes
[20:08] <bin> L3top_: kk
[20:08] <pfifo> carpediembaby, check to ensure that the folder is now owned by uid/gid 1000 `ls -l /media`
[20:08] <carpediembaby> pfifo: yes it is
[20:08] <tr33m4n> LukeNukem, have a look here http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[20:08] <wylde> viktor133:  do you get any output from doing "sensors" in terminal?
[20:08] <pfifo> carpediembaby, remount and test if the user can write
[20:09] <tr33m4n> LukeNukem, you will need to add some extra settings to /etc/network/interfaces which will reserve the ip for that computer
[20:09] <viktor133> wylde, he still says "command not found" when i try to run lm-sensors. output from sensors is the following
[20:09] <viktor133> viktor@viktor-portable:~$ sensors
[20:09] <viktor133> acpitz-virtual-0
[20:09] <viktor133> Adapter: Virtual device
[20:09] <viktor133> temp1:       +80.0°C  (crit = +105.0°C)
[20:10] <tr33m4n> LukeNukem, you shouldn't have to bother with the DNS part
[20:10] <viktor133> wylde, afk for 2 min
[20:10] <pfifo> LukeNukem, static ip addresses are the answer to everything
[20:10] <wylde> viktor133:  ok
[20:10] <konam> SDX ok, THANK YOU
[20:11] <carpediembaby> pfifo: no. same result.
[20:12] <viktor133> wylde, k, back
[20:12] <thomedy> i just installed lampp and i cant find the directory to ln -s it
[20:12] <bin> L3top_: Yup still nothing. No eth0 interface in sight. This all happened when I followed the following guide to install the rtl8186 drivers:  www.pastebin.com/SacvTLkX
[20:12] <pfifo> carpediembaby, then I am stumped, vfat has always worked well for me,
[20:12] <tr33m4n> thomedy, in what context are you trying to ln -s?
[20:13] <wylde> viktor133:  I found this, like I said it's been a while since I set the fans and temp monitoring up. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[20:13] <pfifo> carpediembaby, maybe try mounting somewhere in the users /home instead of /media
[20:13] <carpediembaby> pfifo: okay! thanks anyway.. yes, it normally works but its not working now.. i don't know why.. i'll try mounting to /mnt..
[20:13] <xgamer4>  ##crawl
[20:14] <carpediembaby> pfifo: it always worked in /media
[20:14] <viktor133> wylde, gonna dig through this, thnks
[20:15] <kalib_> Hi people, I'm trying to install 11.10 on Amazon AMZ A601 but it´s not working. I'm using the live cd boot it freezes on boot and keep on a black screen. Just that. Any guess?
[20:15] <CFHowlett> !nomodset|kalib
[20:15] <e-head> Hi
[20:16] <thomedy> excuse me does anyone know which directory im supposed to ln -s for my new localhost www in lampp
[20:16] <CFHowlett> !nomodeset|kalib
[20:16] <CFHowlett> e-head   greetings
[20:16] <kalib_> CFHowlett: thanks
[20:16] <kalib_> I'll check it..
[20:16] <e-head> Man, my system is a mess.  ;)
[20:17] <carpediembaby> pfifo: how do i unmount from /mnt ?
[20:17] <CFHowlett> e-head   details...
[20:17] <e-head> I've tried every desktop known to man on it. I suppose there is nothing wrong with this.
[20:17] <pfifo> carpediembaby, `sudo umount /mnt`
[20:17] <pfifo> thomedy, you dont need any ln -s
[20:17] <e-head> Oh, it's working fine. I'm just trying to figure out if I should download the latest ubuntu and do a fresh install, or should i do an upgrade.
[20:17] <L3top_> sorry bin... very laggy on my end. To be clear... you have something plugged into it yes?
[20:17] <e-head> any thoughts?
[20:18] <CFHowlett> e-head   d - e- t- a- i - l - s
[20:18] <tr33m4n> e-head, fresh install definitely
[20:18] <pfifo> when is voice chat going to be enabled on freenode IRC?
[20:18] <KI7MT> thomedy, not a direct answer, but allot of good server info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/index.html
[20:18] <e-head> tr33m4n: you think so?
[20:18] <thomedy> i put it in /opt/
[20:18] <thomedy> and i dont want to have to go through all of that every day
[20:19] <bin> L3top_: The adapter is plugged in and yes there is an ethernet cable in it.
[20:19] <e-head> are there advantages/disadvantages to a fresh install?
[20:19] <jpds> e-head: Yes, in both cases.
[20:19] <e-head> that's what I figured.
[20:19] <L3top_> bin: rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules   and reboot. It will be recreated, but if you are paranoid, you can back it up in another directory.
[20:19] <minixvbox> e-head: more could go wrong with an upgrade
[20:19] <e-head> I suppose it keeps all your customizations in place.
[20:19] <tr33m4n> e-head, yeah I wouldn't want to upgrade if the system has a lot of cruft... would rather just reinstall than upgrade and then end up fighting problems afterwards
[20:20] <e-head> And that could be good or bad.
[20:20] <tr33m4n> e-head, as in fighting problems if I chose to upgrade
[20:20] <e-head> yeah, I noticed a warning about potential problems.
[20:20] <bin> L3top_: Ok trying that now.
[20:21] <e-head> Is anyone here running the latest version? 12.04
[20:21] <tr33m4n> thomedy, did you install the packages from Ubuntu repos?
[20:21] <Fyodorovna> e-head, a fresh install is much faster, and if you have a system of saving the previous cruft it is really efficient.
[20:21] <pfifo> the usual upgrade method is to perform the upgrad, see what goes wrong, file a bug report, and then reinstall
[20:21] <tr33m4n> e-head, yeah I am
[20:21] <thomedy> no i just went to xampp.com
[20:21] <thomedy> or whatever
[20:21] <e-head> Which display manager does it use, out of curiosity?
[20:21] <KI7MT> if he used tasksel would have to do any ln -s would ahve already been done.
[20:21] <e-head> I heard they were switching.
[20:22] <thomedy> i dont think lampp comes from the ubuntu software center
[20:22] <KI7MT> .. would not ..
[20:22] <minixvbox> e-head: 12.04 discussion in #ubuntu+1 please
[20:22] <e-head> ahh, no problem
[20:22] <pfifo> thomedy, you should remove what you installed and install the official lamp stack from ubuntu, otherwise we cant help you
[20:22] <wylde> thomedy: ummm actually it does.
[20:23] <KI7MT> thomedy, all you ahve to do is open a ternimal, sudo tasksel then select LAMP .. and its done.
[20:23] <minixvbox> !lamp | thomedy
[20:24] <thomedy> thank you
[20:24] <bin> L3top_: Ok I did it and now there seems to be now eth0 rule in that file now: pastebin.com/FVRF0Cnn
[20:24] <bin> L3top_: NO* rules
[20:25] <thomedy> thank you that was easy
[20:25] <thomedy> im going to remove the opt version
[20:25] <thomedy> thats awesome
[20:25] <tr33m4n> thomedy, yep
[20:26] <L3top_> You are correct....
[20:26] <L3top_> bin: lspci | grep thernet
[20:28] <L3top_> bin can you find the link to the guide you used?
[20:28] <L3top_> and tell me your install info
[20:29] <pfifo> thomedy, actually youll soon find out its not that awesome -_-
[20:29] <tr33m4n> pfifo, in what way?
[20:30] <pfifo> tr33m4n, debian apache/php packages are poor quality
[20:30] <tr33m4n> pfifo, never really had a problem with them, how come?
[20:31] <bin> L3top_: Here is the output from lspci and a link to the guide I used: pastebin.com/SbhckLB0
[20:32] <dougl> I have followed a couple of different Howto trying to config vnc server on Ubuntu 10.10 machine but still have not been able to connect form my ubuntu 11:10 notebook - any suggestions?
[20:32] <pfifo> tr33m4n, first off, what if I want PHP version XYZ? ohh, too bad. second, what if I need that so and so extension? ohh too bad. Ive also run into config problems that needed to be manually corrected too, and dont even get me started on PHP's mail under ubuntu
[20:33] <tr33m4n> dougl, have you tried simply forwarding X over ssh? not as efficient but should work
[20:33] <baconbacon123> where r u trying to connect from dougl
[20:35] <dougl> baconbacon123, from within my local network (both machines are on one desk)
[20:35] <baconbacon123> dougl hmmmmm
[20:35] <tr33m4n> pfifo, that just sounds like many bad cases of bad luck to me. PHP is whatever version it is in the package manager in many distros, build from source if its an issue. I've never found an extension I wasn't able to install in Ubuntu, whether from source, via pecl or from the repos. What config problems? Have you tried simply installing exim4? it's a simple solution to mail
[20:35] <dougl> tr33m4n, will google it and see - have not tried that.
[20:35] <Cristian> Hi guys, I'm trying to install 11.10 but it's too slow. My system is an Intel 3.4 Ghz, Hyper Threading, 2 GB DDR2.
[20:36] <Cristian> Should I play with the noapic nolpic, etc options?
[20:36] <oops> If you share me how to play cat I remain grateful to you.
[20:36] <thomedy> is it supposed to take this long
[20:36] <aaGp> Cristian: what do you mean that is slow??.
[20:36] <pfifo> tr33m4n, I dont need support, im just saying, the official lamp isnt what it could be.
[20:37] <escott> Cristian, in what way is it slow
[20:37] <pfifo> thomedy, installing mysql takes a bit of time, I recommend simple installing apache and php by itself, and using sqlite
[20:38] <Cristian> Well, it takes ~10 minutes until I see the desktop.
[20:38] <thomedy> it seems to be stuck at 89% , and just so i understand that is normal?
[20:38] <Cristian> (No Applications/System) menu though.
[20:38] <tr33m4n> pfifo, depends on what technologies you plan on using it for
[20:38] <Cristian> Only the menu bar, systray.
[20:38] <L3top_> bin I dunno what that package you are wgetting is... follow this instead ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10283670
[20:38] <Cristian> Tried direct install, still the same thing.
[20:38] <escott> Cristian, ctrl-alt-f1 and login and see what is running in top
[20:39] <aaGp> 11.10 have Unity this mean the old menu dissapear
[20:39] <baconbacon123> unity uggg
[20:39] <aaGp> maybe the cd is scratch?
[20:40] <pfifo> tr33m4n, what do you mean? I use lamp as a developer, I need uber control over everything.
[20:40] <baconbacon123> usb disk is more reliable
[20:40] <baconbacon123> dont u wish we got beens for this
[20:40] <L3top_> bin... before you do that... please tell me what your setup is... what version ubuntu are you running/
[20:40] <thomedy> is it possible that since i ran sudo tasksel bufore i removed /opt/lampp it is stalled out and wont continue
[20:40] <bin> L3top_: Yeah i was going to do that first but try going to the realtek website and downloading one of those files. They don't exist. You cant even install the official driver if you want to lol
[20:40] <Cristian> 10x escott, will try again.
[20:40] <bin> L3top_: Ubuntu 10.04
[20:40] <Cristian> Should I get the 12.04 beta?
[20:40] <Cristian> Did any of you try it?
[20:40] <L3top_> 32bit 64bit
[20:40] <L3top_> ok
[20:40] <bin> L3top_: 64
[20:41] <L3top_> one second.
[20:41] <CFHowlett> Cristian   beta - unstable.  ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:41] <thomedy> how do i get it to stop and try again
[20:41] <baconbacon123> is it possible to uprge from 11.10
[20:41] <tr33m4n> pfifo, well having been developing for Drupal since it first forked I've encountered issues with the development of PHP vs the development speed of Drupal, subsequently writing guides on how to downgrade PHP in Ubuntu for running Drupal... these have obviously been resolved, but that's an example anyway
[20:42] <Cristian> Thank you. See you later, hopefully from Ubuntu.
[20:42] <thomedy> wait tr33m4n you develop for drupal
[20:42] <L3top_> bin the drivers are there, at the link, work fine
[20:42] <tr33m4n> thomedy, not for drupal drupal, just patches here and there for modules
[20:43] <pfifo> tr33m4n, you may be more familir with current limitations of lamp, I havent used it since it failed to make my life easy one day back in 8.04
[20:43] <thomedy> ?thats funny me too
[20:43] <L3top_> http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=5&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#RTL8111B/RTL8168B/RTL8111/RTL8168%3Cbr%3ERTL8111C/RTL8111CP/RTL8111D%28L%29%3Cbr%3ERTL8168C/RTL8111DP
[20:43] <thomedy> not patches yet.. but i alwasy right my own... only im teaching myself php
[20:43] <thomedy> i took c++ in college and java you know the regs
[20:43] <thomedy> and i just like web more i think
[20:43] <thomedy> that being said im kinda a noob  i just went straight into theme and mod development
[20:44] <thomedy> im decent though
[20:44] <baconbacon123> i cant learn c++ to hardddddd
[20:44] <tr33m4n> thomedy, good for you man, personally java and php is where it's at
[20:44] <baconbacon123> no not this discussion again
[20:45] <sparky> Hi I'm having trouble getting virtualbox to create the virtual hard disk. It keeps freezing up on me for some reason. Any idea why?
[20:45] <bin> L3top_: When I click it it says javascript:void(0); and the bottom link url and jsut brings up a blank screen.
[20:45] <thomedy> i actually like the power of c++ and learning a not so strict language is weird to me like the fact that a variable doesnt need to have a type in its declaration just $ and your good
[20:45] <thomedy> anyway
[20:45] <tr33m4n> thomedy :p yeah, it is a different beast
[20:46] <thomedy> okay i really need to kill tasksel and run it again i think that it stalled out because i had a mysql server on it when it started that phase how do i burn this
[20:47] <haylo> is there a way to use the gnome weather applet thing in my ubuuntu openbox netinstall? it is a pretty awesome app
[20:47] <L3top_> one second bin
[20:47] <tr33m4n> sparky, what type of virtual disk are you creating?
[20:48] <L3top_> ftp://WebUser:n8W9ErCy@207.232.93.28/cn/nic/r8168-8.028.00.tar.bz2
[20:48] <L3top_> bin^^
[20:48] <tr33m4n> thomedy, any progress?
[20:48] <sparky> a fixed sized disk
[20:49] <JohnNapster> hello
[20:49] <baconbacon123> herroe
[20:49] <JohnNapster> how are the .po files generated in ubuntu source ??
[20:49] <thomedy> on what im sorry tr334n
[20:49] <thomedy> on the mods or getting lamp up
[20:49] <tr33m4n> thomedy lamp up
[20:49] <thomedy> well i have tasksel stalled out
[20:50] <thomedy> `at 89 %
[20:50] <thomedy> no good
[20:50] <JohnNapster> how are the .po files generated in ubuntu source ?? hello??!!
[20:50] <JohnNapster> from the .pot file  ??
[20:50] <tr33m4n> thomedy, suggest quitting tasksel, running apt-get -f install, and run taskel again
[20:50] <pfifo> JohnNapster, that is a feature of autoconf, has nothing todo with ubuntu sources
[20:51] <JohnNapster> autoconf hey?
[20:51] <baconbacon123> is there any other ubuntu-offtopic ish channels ubuntu-offtopic is kinda dead right now
[20:51] <JohnNapster> and how wxactl is that done?
[20:51] <JohnNapster> and how exactly is that done?
[20:51] <pfifo> baconbacon123, club-ubuntu
[20:51] <thomedy> thank you so much
[20:51] <baconbacon123> pfifo thanks
[20:51] <wdsnead> tr33m4n, thank you for all of your help! I always get in trouble when I make assumptions. It turns out that the main PC I  was trying to connect to was shut down and when it was rebooted I logged in as administrator. Something had happened to the Windows XP PC and all other users were lost and the workgroup was the default workgroup. Resolving that problem now. Again, thank you for your help!!!!
[20:51] <bin> L3top_: Thankyou sir. Ok i'm going to follow the guide now.
[20:52] <JohnNapster> pfifo: well?
[20:52] <Krenair> I installed openjdk-6-source from the ubuntu repos. Where can I find the code files now?
[20:52] <L3top_> ping me and let me know how you make out
[20:52] <pfifo> JohnNapster, youll have to read the autoconf manual, I have no idea.
[20:52] <tr33m4n> wdsnead, not a problem, anytime :)
[20:52] <pfifo> JohnNapster, you coulf try #autotools as well
[20:52] <sparky> tr33m4n: I'm trying to create a fixed size disk
[20:53] <thomedy> im sorry how do i kill tasksel i closed the term i dont know the pid
[20:53] <zykotick9> Krenair: does "dpkg -L openjdk-6-source" show you?
[20:54] <tr33m4n> thomedy, try running 'top' (if it's install) then try killing the relevant process with 'killall'... or install htop, which is pretty ncurses task manager
[20:54] <zykotick9> thomedy: is tasksel still running?  "ps aux | grep tasksel"
[20:55] <zykotick9> thomedy: "killall tasksel" if it is.
[20:56] <Krenair> zykotick9, yep, thanks
[20:56] <tr33m4n> sparky, as in a VDI, VMDK, VHD or a parallels hard disk?
[20:56] <Gorkyman> is there a way to enable root user ?
[20:56] <baconbacon123> sudo passwd root
[20:56] <zykotick9> !noroot | Gorkyman
[20:56] <zykotick9> baconbacon123: see above
[20:57] <baconbacon123> ohhh ic sorrry
[20:57] <sparky> tr33m4n: as a VDI but also tried VHD and it froze as well
[20:57] <thomedy> i got a hit on ps aux
[20:57] <thomedy> i think that means its running
[20:58] <zykotick9> thomedy: it wasn't the grep was it?  you'd probably have a number of lines if it was running
[20:58] <minixvbox> thomedy: unless that hit was just your grep
[20:58] <Gorkyman> the problem is, I get permission denied on all the things and need to type sudo before.. is there a way to skip this ?
[20:58] <thomedy> i did get a number i jus tdont know which one is my process id
[20:58] <tr33m4n> sparky, tried a dynamically allocated one instead, it will still display to the guest OS the correct disk size, only virtualbox will manage how the disk grows
[20:59] <minixvbox> Gorkyman: what are you trying to do?
[20:59] <zykotick9> thomedy: using killall you use the name instead of the PID
[20:59] <bin> L3top_: Hmm ok Well now I do have a eth0 after restart with an ip address. Allthough I do not see a connection at the top right GUI bar.  I can bring the eth int down and up but I cannot ping google or use the web Allthough I can ping the router. Sec doing some dns settings to see if that will fix the problem.
[20:59] <Gorkyman> minixvbox: just trying to set set my user to full permissions
[20:59] <sparky> alright ill try it out. Thanks
[20:59] <minixvbox> Gorkyman: for what exactly?
[20:59] <bin> L3top_:  after following the guide and restarting* I should say
[20:59] <thomedy> i didnt know i could do that thank you let me man killall
[21:00] <Gorkyman> minixvbox: like $echo "something" > somefile.txt
[21:00] <zykotick9> thomedy: killall "should" have TAB completion as well ;)
[21:00] <Gorkyman> no permissions...
[21:00] <minixvbox> Gorkyman: use tee instead
[21:01] <floown> hi
[21:01] <pfifo> Gorkyman, you can get a root shell with `sudo -i`
[21:01] <L3top_> bin: does cat /etc/network/interfaces look the same?
[21:01] <floown> I have lost my Gimp installation, I have apply theses instructions https://launchpad.net/~matthaeus123/+archive/mrw-gimp-svn
[21:02] <L3top_> iface eth0 inet dhcp?
[21:02] <thomedy> its saying dpkg is unavailable but i killalled my tasksel
[21:02] <glebihan> Gorkyman, echo "something" | sudo tee -a filename
[21:02] <Gorkyman> pfifo: is there a way to start temirnal with root by default ?
[21:02] <thomedy> im just going to kill all dpkg
[21:02] <zykotick9> thomedy: is it saying something about a lock?
[21:03] <pfifo> floown, PPA's are unsupported
[21:03] <thomedy> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:03] <bin> L3top_:  YESS! It worked. I set /etc/resolv.conf to my internal dns server and I get interwebs! L3top_ I want to give you a big wet kiss. thanks for your time. And yeah /etc/network/interfaces looks the same
[21:03] <zykotick9> !aptlock | thomedy
[21:03] <zykotick9> thomedy: are you using sudo!
[21:03] <pfifo> Gorkyman, you could add a launcher somewhere to run `gksudo gnome-terminal`
[21:03] <L3top_> great have fun
[21:04] <thomedy> yeah im using sudo
[21:05] <glebihan> thomedy, this is happening precisely because you killed tasksel, that's something you should never do
[21:05] <thomedy> okay all sorts of errors here
[21:05] <zykotick9> pfifo: <sidenote> i wonder what is better?  gksuing gnome-terminal or running "gnome-terminal -e sudo -i"?  humm...
[21:05] <pfifo> what does fuser -vki do?
[21:05] <thomedy> i thought someone said to im sorry
[21:05] <glebihan> thomedy, follow the instructions given by ubotty
[21:05] <thomedy> okay...
[21:05] <thomedy> send me uboty ill do it
[21:05] <pfifo> zykotick9, I like to have additionally created tabs be root as well
[21:05] <thomedy> i can fix this right
[21:06] <glebihan> thomedy, just read a few lines up the message from ubottu
[21:06] <thomedy> oh no i did that
[21:06] <thomedy> and thats where my new errors are
[21:06] <thomedy> its saying dpkg dependency errors
[21:06] <pfifo> zykotick9, wound sudo complain about your command not having an interactive shell?
[21:06] <thomedy> error processing mysql server 51
[21:07] <thomedy> leaving unconfigured
[21:07] <thomedy> stuff like that
[21:07] <zykotick9> pfifo: no "gnome-terminal -e ..." means execute following in gnome-terminal
[21:07] <thomedy> and that var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[21:08] <tr33m4n> thomedy, suggest reboot, then fixing with dpkg-reconfigure -a
[21:08] <thomedy> okay.
[21:08] <thomedy> i hope that works
[21:08] <pfifo> zykotick9, I know, but it the shell actually available to sudo at that time? also, what about password?
[21:08] <thomedy> ijus twant to go live on my new site
[21:08] <thomedy> ill try that thank you
[21:08] <thomedy> brb probably
[21:08] <tr33m4n> thomedy, good luck!
[21:09] <zykotick9> pfifo: it will ask for one in terminal
[21:10] <pfifo> zykotick9, I cant get your command to work
[21:10] <zykotick9> pfifo: ? i can't test, no gnome-terminal here
[21:11] <zykotick9> pfifo: ? i can't test, no gnome-terminal here or sudo for that matter ;)
[21:11] <pfifo> zykotick9, but lxterminal -e "sudo -i" worked, just needed the quotes
[21:16] <donal> i'm logged into a server as root but want to change to the user tomcat7, I tried running "su tomcat7" but when I create a file I still see that the owner is root
[21:16] <soreau> donal: try login
[21:16] <dwon> donal: su - tomcat7
[21:17] <dwon> donal: su -s/bin/bash - tomcat7
[21:18] <donal> thanks dwon
[21:18] <zykotick9> donal: the - "fakes" a login
[21:18] <donal> thanks
[21:20] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[21:20] <dwon> donal: just for curiosity, what's the output of "getent passwd tomcat7" on your machine?
[21:20] <Alwimo> Hello. I reported a bug on launchpad yesterday, and today the bug report has disappeared (no longer in my reported bugs). Can they be deleted?
[21:20] <Tetracomm> How do I list parallel ports in Ubuntu?
[21:20] <donal> dwon: it's this  tomcat7:x:104:106::/usr/share/tomcat7:/bin/false
[21:21] <donal> one other thing, when I do "ls -l" I see something like -rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat7 tomcat7    0 Mar  3 16:18 ff
[21:21] <dwon> soreau, zykotick9, donal: Yeah, the /bin/false at the end means that the user is configured with /bin/false as its shell, so when you do a regular su or login, it just exits immediately instead of running bash.  Using su -s/bin/bash overrides that.
[21:22] <donal> one of the tomcat7 fields is showing the file owner, but what's the other tomcat7 ?
[21:22] <dwon> donal: group owner
[21:22] <donal> sweet thanks, my unix foo is very rusty
[21:22] <soreau> dwon: oh cool
[21:22] <zykotick9> donal: where you required to use the -s/bin/bash?  for a non /bin/false user, just using the - worked - but i can see why /bin/false would mess with things.  nice job dwon :)
[21:22] <donal> yes it only worked with -s/bin/bash
[21:25] <Alwimo> Is it possible for somebody to delete a launchpad bug report the day it was created?
[21:25] <zykotick9> Alwimo: they get marked invalid, but i don't think they're deleted usually
[21:26] <soreau> Alwimo: Are you sure it was ever submitted?
[21:26] <zykotick9> Alwimo: do you have the bug number?
[21:26] <Alwimo> soreau: Yes, I am certain. I visited the page of the report several times, to see if it was replied to.
[21:27] <soreau> Alwimo: What is the bug number?
[21:27] <Alwimo> zykotick9: I thought that was the case.
[21:28] <otaviobarreto> HI
[21:28] <PoolShark_> hi
[21:28] <Alwimo> I think it ended with an 8, and so I'm guessing 94541418 as it was soon after 945414 from someone else
[21:29] <JulinBM> join ubuntu_pt
[21:29] <jolo12345>  hey how do i make a bootable floopy to usb disk
[21:30] <KM0201> jolo12345: say what>?
[21:30] <JulinBM> where i can speak pt?
[21:30] <KM0201> !PT
[21:30] <Myrtti> !pt | JulinBM
[21:30] <elijah> I have an app that didn't come from a repo (smartgit), it says to just run it from where I extracted it was. What is the best practice for apps like these? Should I place in bin or sbin?
[21:31] <zykotick9> elijah: /opt is intended for out-of-repo stuff
[21:31] <jolo12345> JulinBM: i need to make a bootable floppy disk so i can boot my usb stick
[21:31] <KM0201> pre unity, i just shortcut it on the desktop or my menu, to start it
[21:32] <KM0201> jolo12345: never heard of that, sorry.
[21:32] <genii-around> elijah: Another conventional place used is /usr/local/  where you would have bin,sbin, whatever other hierarchy
[21:33] <zykotick9> genii-around: i'd personally consider anything under /usr to be system sacred territory (but perhaps that's to conservative)
[21:34] <elijah> zykotick9: Thanks!
[21:34] <elijah> genii-around: Thanks for that tip too!
[21:35] <Contra> hey
[21:37] <Alwimo> Okay, I see I got an email marking my bug report as a duplicate of another. Strange that it made it disappear from my list of bugs, though.
[21:37] <soreau> Alwimo: What is the bug number?
[21:37] <Alwimo> 945438
[21:37] <zykotick9> Alwimo: you can subscribe to the other bug if you want to follow it
[21:37] <Alwimo> Yes, I've now subscribed to it.
[21:38] <Alwimo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/945438 that was my one,
[21:38] <Alwimo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/936996 that is what it duplicated
[21:38] <soreau> Alwimo: The bug is still here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/945438
[21:38] <soreau> bug #945438
[21:39] <zykotick9> bug 945438
[21:39] <Alwimo> Yes, it's just not showing up on my page of bugs, or where I reported it, so I thought it disappeared.
[21:39] <baconbacon123> i installed lubuntu-desktop then kubuntu-desktop but still have lubuntu boot up screen
[21:39] <soreau> Alwimo: Clearly, you did it wrong ;)
[21:39] <CFHowlett> !plymouth|baconbacon123
[21:40] <Alwimo> Thanks for the help. :)
[21:41] <HSarena> Hi! how to change read-only partition to read/write?????
[21:41] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: thanks - i wondered how ubuntu dealt with the plymouth theme changes, hadn't seen the factoid.  update-alternatives isn't used in ubuntu very much anymore
[21:41] <ikonia> HSarena: why is it read only ?
[21:41] <minixvbox> HSarena: and what fs?
[21:41] <baconbacon123> thanks brah
[21:42] <CFHowlett> zykotick9   I only know because upgrading ubuntu to Ubuntustudio does NOT change the ubuntu theme.  Had to manually configure plymouth.  Esoteric knowledge triumphs again ...
[21:43] <Siegel-> hello. i upgraded to 12.4 yesterday and my wifi doesnt work anymore. the little wifi icon on my keyboard doesnt light up anymore. network connections says wireless is unavailable. what do i do/
[21:43] <minixvbox> !12.04 | Siegel-
[21:43] <zykotick9> Siegel-: reask in #ubuntu+1
[21:43] <Siegel-> ok thanks
[21:44]  * CFHowlett wonders why so many folk seem to believe that beta means upgrade NOW.
[21:44] <Buceph> I just read something from last may about a Netflix Chrome plugin. Has there been any update on that?
[21:45] <minixvbox> CFHowlett: google might have something to do with that mindset
[21:45] <zykotick9> CFHowlett: the only point to running beta is reporting bugs.  if you need to ask for help with something - you shouldn't be running development.
[21:45] <Zaitzev> derp
[21:45] <Zaitzev> i've just had an interesting experience with installing ubuntu on a laptop
[21:46] <CFHowlett> zykotick9   agreed - but then I'm biased in favor of LTS only.  :)
[21:46] <Zaitzev> with dualbooting and stuff..
[21:46] <CFHowlett> Zaitzev   do tell
[21:46] <Zaitzev> well
[21:46] <Zaitzev> it went completely batshit
[21:46] <Zaitzev> first try anyway
[21:47] <Zaitzev> it must've been an issue with the win7 installation or something
[21:47] <Zaitzev> weird partitioning or whatever
[21:47] <minixvbox> !enter | Zaitzev
[21:47] <Jordan_U> Zaitzev: Please watch your language, and try to give complete details of what happend (in one line).
[21:47] <HSarena> ikonia: I have 2 ntfs partition on my ubuntu, i don't know how but now there are read -only
[21:48] <ikonia> HSarena: how did you mount them
[21:48] <Zaitzev> it basically resulted in windows 7 not being able to be booted anymore.
[21:48] <HSarena> minixvbox: i have 2 ntfs partition om my ubuntu
[21:48] <Zaitzev> ubottu: reading very long lines of text on IRC is a pain, just fyi..
[21:48] <Jordan_U> Zaitzev: How did you try to boot Windows, and what happened when you tried (and by the way, in the future this is the type of detail you should start with).
[21:48] <gdoteof> i plugged in an old school ipod short and fat guy
[21:49] <minixvbox> HSarena: do you have entries for them in fstab?
[21:49] <Zaitzev> oh, right. didn't see that. :P
[21:49] <gdoteof> it mounts as an ipod, but i can't add files
[21:49] <gdoteof> it just mounts up.. should i sudo writes?  or is there some built in package to deal with it
[21:50] <Zaitzev> Jordan_U: The bootmenu (grub?) that appears when you turn on the computer shows Ubuntu and Windows 7 as choices. I chose Windows, but it just borked.
[21:50] <danniel> hi
[21:50] <CFHowlett> Zaitzev   did you use the wubi installation?
[21:50] <otaviobarreto> a
[21:50] <otaviobarreto> a
[21:50] <CFHowlett> danniel   greetings
[21:50] <Zaitzev> In any case, what I had to do was wipe the entire drive, remove all partitions and start from scratch. That sucked since it had a bunch of data that'll take a while getting back.
[21:51] <danniel> i'm try to play a video file captured on apple computer
[21:51] <Jordan_U> Zaitzev: When asking for support, "it just borked" is a completely useless description of a problem. What exactly happens when you select the Windows entry?
[21:51] <danniel> but i can't!
[21:51] <CFHowlett> danniel   what format is the video?  mpeg, etc?
[21:51] <Zaitzev> CFHowlett: You mean installing Ubuntu from within Windows?
[21:51] <northernen> If I want to set an environment variables, independent of the user logging in, in which file should I set this?
[21:51] <CFHowlett> Zaitzev   right
[21:51] <HSarena> ikonia: i don't know, with natilus
[21:51] <Zaitzev> Jordan_U: Oh, I'm not in need of support right now, was just telling about my experience. :)
[21:51] <danniel> CFHowlett: mov
[21:51] <minixvbox> Zaitzev: the virtue of backups is a lesson you need not learn the hard way
[21:51] <danniel> Apple Quicktime Movie
[21:52] <danniel> i already try VLC
[21:52] <CFHowlett> danniel   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:52] <Zaitzev> minixvbox: had nowhere to backup to. either way, the files aren't "lost forever" as they can be redownloaded. it's just gonna take some time (30-40 GB of data)
[21:52] <danniel> installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[21:52] <tiox> [Ubuntu 11.10] I want to make a bootable USB system without the need for unetbootin. How do I go about this?
[21:52] <CFHowlett> danniel   you need the proper codecs to play different types of media.  mov is not supported by default in ubuntu, but can be installed.
[21:52] <kdkidkdk> how to use pastebin
[21:52] <Fyodorovna> tiox, you can dd that release.
[21:53] <minixvbox> Zaitzev: you should always have somewhere to backup your files, otherwise your data isn't important to you
[21:53] <tiox> I made a multi-distro image with MultiCD and unetbootin messes the boot menu up -- MultiCD does menus in a different way, and I presum uses a different bootloader to handle startup tasks.
[21:53] <CFHowlett> tiox   use ubuntu startup disk creator
[21:53] <danniel> CFHowlett: ubuntu-restricted-extras is installed
[21:53] <minixvbox> Zaitzev: i keep an external harddrive just for backups
[21:53] <kdkidkdk> neone have link to pastebin
[21:53] <tiox> I'll seek it.
[21:53] <Zaitzev> minixvbox: it was my brothers laptop, and the files lost was his World of Warcraft data and patches, hahaha
[21:53] <zykotick9> danniel: it's an Apple issue so i'm not interested, BUT be sure you have U-R-E (mentioned above).  If that still doesn't work, get w32codecs (or w64codecs) from mediubuntu and try something mplayer based (vlc won't take advantage of the mediubuntu codecs)
[21:53] <danniel> CFHowlett: the file info is: ISO Media, Apple Quicktime movie
[21:54] <tiox> Fyodorovna: I saw something about DD on a page for fedora, but I am not certain if I can directly copy-paste their command line.
[21:54] <minixvbox> Zaitzev: bet he loves you :)
[21:54] <Zaitzev> among a few other files, but all in all not a huge loss. Personally I have both cloud and local backup for the most important stuff :)
[21:54] <Fyodorovna> !dd
[21:54] <CFHowlett> danniel   as zykotick9 said ...
[21:54] <kdkidkdk> hi can anyone help with a tiger security report i have put in pastebin
[21:54] <Zaitzev> minixvbox: He has to, since he doesn't have anyone else to turn to for tech support. Nothing is worse than being on a techie's sh*tlist as we all know.. ;)
[21:54] <kdkidkdk> it has lots of stuff im not sure about at al
[21:55] <minixvbox> kdkidkdk: tiger?
[21:55] <danniel> tnks CFHowlett
[21:55] <kdkidkdk> i thinki its tiger
[21:55] <danniel> tnks zykotick9
[21:55] <danniel> i'll try
[21:55] <zykotick9> !medibuntu
[21:55] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: as in macos ?
[21:55] <kdkidkdk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/867346/
[21:55] <Siegel-> zykotick9: i read what you had to say. i didnt know about how the beta versions are for reporting errors. how do i know when a "real" version is out? what is it called then/
[21:55] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: as in macos ?
[21:55] <kdkidkdk> thats the report
[21:55] <minixvbox> kdkidkdk: no idea what you are talking about
[21:56] <zykotick9> Siegel-: -devel will disappear
[21:56] <mattwj2002> hi guys I need help with audio routing
[21:56] <kdkidkdk> can anyone take a look and let me know if anything major should be done and how to do it ta!
[21:56] <mattwj2002> I am using lubuntu
[21:56] <Siegel-> zykotick9: where does it say -devel?
[21:56] <zykotick9> Siegel-: check "lsb_release -a"
[21:56] <Fyodorovna> tiox, somebody here knows th dd command I have never really used it just ask.
[21:56] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: please answer the question. Is this Mac OS Tiger
[21:56] <Zaitzev> does anyone else experience troubles when playing around with Compiz? Last time I "experimented", or rather tested a couple of the available things, I had to format.
[21:56] <kdkidkdk> know unix tiger tool
[21:56] <minixvbox> kdkidkdk: might help if you descrive the problem here first
[21:56] <mattwj2002> I want my bluetooth headset to take all of the audio and my built in sound card to have none of it
[21:56] <guntbert> !enter | kdkidkdk
[21:57] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: what distro are you running this on ?
[21:57] <kdkidkdk> no problem just ran it and it came up with the report in pastebin
[21:57] <kdkidkdk> umm latest i think
[21:57] <kdkidkdk> oneiric ocelot or whatever
[21:57] <Siegel-> zykotick9: ok but when its "advertised" i guess it wont be called the beta version anymore, right? would you suggest to go back to two versions ago? 10.04 or what it was called? narwhal?
[21:57] <Siegel-> zykotick9: because that was a "Real" version? everything worked on it. all my plugins.
[21:57] <mattwj2002> audio routing anyone?
[21:57] <Siegel-> now they dont
[21:57] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: can you please show me the output of "uname -a"
[21:58] <L3top_> mattwj2002: the sound has to first be processed by the card, you just want to redirect the output.
[21:58] <eblume> Hi. My ubuntu box's only drive is starting to fail - it's clearly on its way to dieing. I am currently booted in to that box with a second drive that is differently sized. How can I copy over from the failing (but not failed) drive to the new drive in such a way that I don't lose data, can boot off of it, and fill all available partitionable space?
[21:58] <kdkidkdk> ok hold on then do i just type it in the command box
[21:58] <mattwj2002> exactly
[21:58] <zykotick9> Siegel-: it's the development version right now, see "/msg ubottu final"
[21:59] <L3top_> I am not sure how to do that outside of our system... I will look into it. Please be patient.
[21:59] <kdkidkdk> #29-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 14 12:48:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:59] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: the full output please.
[21:59] <mattwj2002> okay thanks
[21:59] <Siegel-> zykotick9: i see. interesting. so you suggest keeping to the official releases and not upgrading to beta versions?
[21:59] <mattwj2002> L3top_:
[21:59] <kdkidkdk> that was it
[22:00] <R3van> i try to spin down my hdd (sata) via hdparm -S 60 in hdparm.conf.. but it seems that the config will not be loaded during boot time.. using the command in terminal works perfekt.. how to fix this problem?
[22:00] <mattwj2002> don't bother I got someone else to help me! :)
[22:00] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: no, it's not
[22:00] <mattwj2002> I'll pass one what I know
[22:00] <zykotick9> Siegel-: don't use beta unless you feel like fighting/reporting bugs - that's it's only purpose
[22:00] <Zaitzev> I'm still trying to find "must have" programs to install in Ubuntu :)
[22:00] <Siegel-> zykotick9: im not able to fight/report bugs so ill stick to the official ones
[22:00] <ikonia> Zaitzev: the ones you like are the "must have" programs
[22:01] <Zaitzev> in that case
[22:01] <elijah> Does anyone know where I can change the key binding for show desktop (currently ctrl+alt+d)
[22:01] <kdkidkdk> well thats all it came up with
[22:01] <php101uk> Guys - having a real problem with setting up a xen domain in ubuntu. http://www.pastie.org/private/r0trxzhoipv8exzg7q Can anyone help
[22:01] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: type it again, and paste it fully
[22:01] <php101uk> ?
[22:01] <elijah> I am in keyboard shortcuts and compiz and am having trouble finding it
[22:01] <CFHowlett> Zaitzev   no such thing as must have - suggest you do some research, identify your interests and THEN select.  start here:  http://fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads/
[22:01] <L3top_> mattwj2002: check this out, see if it seems appropriate https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset
[22:02] <escott> R3van, rc.local
[22:02] <Zaitzev> CFHowlett: What I do is scroll the Software Center, hehe
[22:02] <kdkidkdk> Linux bluecrispmanu-Compaq-Presario-CQ60-Notebook-PC 3.0.0-16-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 14 12:48:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:03] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: ok, there we go,
[22:03] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: so what is your concern with the security report ?
[22:03] <eblume> Can anyone help me figure out how to make a bootable copy of an HD on to another HD of a different size?
[22:03] <kdkidkdk> well i dont know what it means
[22:03] <R3van> escott: hmm ok, but i should a sleep time ?
[22:03] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: then don't worry about it
[22:03] <kdkidkdk> or if there is anything seriously wrong really.
[22:03] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: if you don't know how to use the tool or what it means, why run it ?
[22:03] <escott> R3van, for local config that isn't specified elsewhere in the boot just put the command into /etc/rc.local
[22:04] <northernen> If I want to set an environment variables, independent of the user logging in, in which file should I set this?
[22:04] <kdkidkdk> well to paste it where someone might know about it
[22:04] <kdkidkdk> to help
[22:04] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: why though ? why are you running a tool you have no understanding of for no reason
[22:04] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: just use ubuntu and enjoy it
[22:04] <kdkidkdk> just am
[22:04] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: don't start looking for problems for no reason
[22:04] <kdkidkdk> well it came up with a few
[22:05] <angelleye> I've got a basic LAMP setup and I have a few sites setup as virtual hosts already.  I realized it was running in mod_php, though, which was giving me permissions issues on my websites.  I installed SuPHP and that seems to have worked, however, now my PHP scripts won't load.  I get a 500 Internal Server error.  HTML, directories, images, etc. still work fine.
[22:05] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: you're looking for problems......if you don't understand the tool, just use ubuntu and don't worry about it
[22:05] <angelleye> I see I have two different php.ini config files now.  Is there some way I need to switch my current sites to use the new one or something?
[22:05] <Zaitzev> i'm curious, who in here have been using ubuntu since the very first release?
[22:06] <CFHowlett> !ot|Zaitzev
[22:06] <Zaitzev> ok..
[22:06] <R3van> escott: ok thanks ill try
[22:07] <kdkidkdk> hmm anyone here understand ubuntu
[22:07] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: yes
[22:08] <skinkie1> Hi, I'm currently running ubuntu server 12.04 beta
[22:08] <L3top_> What is your issue kdkidkdk? You are starting to seem... trollish.
[22:08] <ikonia> skinkie1: then #ubuntu+1 is the best channel for your questions
[22:08] <skinkie1> I have installed gcc etc. and also libxml2-dev
[22:08] <skinkie1> thanks
[22:08] <kdkidkdk> --WARN-- Found cron file for unknown user
[22:08] <angelleye> How do I always run into things nobody has an answer for.  ugh.
[22:08] <KI7MT> #ubuntu+1
[22:08] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: stop looking for problems,
[22:09] <CFHowlett> !precise|skinkie1
[22:09] <kdkidkdk> --FAIL-- [dev002f] /dev/rfkill has world permissions
[22:09] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: unless you have a reason to think there is a problem (eg: you've changed something and you are worried about what you've changed) don't worry/use tools you don't understand and just use the OS
[22:09] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: please stop pasting random lines
[22:11] <kdkidkdk> --WARN-- [lin003w] The process `avahi-dae' is listening on socket UDP  its saying 'warning' and 'fail' for a reason...someone telling me to ignore it all makes me suspicious
[22:11] <angelleye> Can anybody help me out with an apache/php problem?
[22:11] <Fyodorovna> bot
[22:11] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: stop posting random lines from your log
[22:11] <ikonia> angelleye: just ask, and we can try
[22:11] <tr33m4n> kdkidkdk, What exactly is your problem?
[22:12] <kdkidkdk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/867346/
[22:12] <angelleye> Everything was running in mod_php so I was having permissions issues.  I installed SuPHP, but now my PHP scripts won't load.  I get Internal Server Error.
[22:12] <kdkidkdk> im just wondering if there is anything to worry about in this report from tiger
[22:12] <eblume> Can anyone help me clone a bootable drive on to another *smaller* bootable drive?
[22:12] <angelleye> I see two php.ini config files now, and I'm wondering if I need to somehow change my sites to use the new one or something..??
[22:12] <ikonia> kdkidkdk: don't worry about it - just use the computer
[22:12] <ikonia> angelleye: there should only be one php.ini
[22:12] <KI7MT> angelleye, you may want to try in #ubuntu-server
[22:13] <lilvaratep> When I try to move a file from an archive into nautilus, it still says permission denied, what can i do?
[22:13] <ikonia> lilvaratep: look at where you are moving it to/from and check the permissions
[22:13] <berevgia> I can't mount my usb flash pen drive on ubuntu 10.04, tried to do it manually but it doesn't even appear when i type: "sudo fdisk -l".
[22:13] <lilvaratep> ikonia: it is a vim plugin im trying to add
[22:13] <angelleye> ikonia:  there are 2 because one is mod_php and the other is mod_suphp.  I followed a guide to install SuPHP and everything went according to the guide except for my problem now.
[22:13] <tr33m4n> kdkidkdk, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[22:13] <CFHowlett> kdkidkdk   ask in #tigervnc
[22:13] <L3top_> eblume: you could resize the partition on which the bootable drive is, presuming it is not persistent.
[22:14] <Fyodorovna> berevgia, what is it formatted as?
[22:14] <L3top_> then use clonezilla
[22:14] <escott> berevgia, plug/unplug the usb and then run dmesg | tail -n 20
[22:14] <StrangeCharm> How can I disable a gedit plugin without starting Gedit? I think the plugin that I just enabled is preventing gedit from starting.
[22:14] <kdkidkdk> thanks
[22:14] <ikonia> angelleye: surly they should be using the same php.ini
[22:14] <ikonia> lilvaratep: that doesn't change my advice
[22:15] <eblume> L3top_: I'm currently booted on to that drive, so resizing isn't an option. I think?
[22:15] <angelleye> ikonia:  yeah, I need them all to use the new one, but I'm not sure how to change it, or really if that's even my problem (maybe they got changed automatically when I disabled mod_php, installed mod_suphp, and then restarted apache)
[22:15] <lilvaratep> ikonia: i cant find the dot files for vim, only in /usr/share/vim why is this?
[22:15] <ikonia> lilvaratep: make one
[22:15] <L3top_> eblume: you can boot to live disk then use gparted
[22:15] <angelleye> all i know is my PHP pages won't load anymore, but everything else in apache is still fine.  html pages, directories, images, etc. all load fine
[22:15] <ikonia> angelleye: what are the locations of the two php.ini files
[22:16] <eblume> L3top_: Unfortunately I don't have access to a disk drive. Is there a way around it? Maybe run levels?
[22:16] <L3top_> no.
[22:16] <berevgia> @escott: can't do copy paste, but it doesn't say anything like "sdb1". I'm chatting with my mac.
[22:16] <angelleye> ikonia:  the mod_php one is at /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini and the new one is at /etc/php5/cgi/php.ini
[22:16] <L3top_> You cannot resize a partition you are actively using... unless there is a tool that will reboot to do so.
[22:17] <escott> berevgia, does it say anything about the usb bus? does it identify that the device was plugged in?
[22:17] <L3top_> Do you have access to a thumbdrive eblume?
[22:17] <ikonia> angelleye: that's interesting.
[22:17] <angelleye> one is labeled "configuration for mod_php" and the other is labeled "configuration for scripts run via cgi"
[22:17] <ikonia> angelleye: I see how it's seperated (didn't know ubuntu did that) one should be exected for fastcgi scripts, the other for standard php pages,
[22:18] <ikonia> angelleye: the etc/php5/apache2/php.ini is the one that will affect your ability to see php pages
[22:18] <angelleye> I know on my actual server that uses WHM/Cpanel I can easily switch between different PHP Handlers for each site
[22:18] <angelleye> well, i guess that's my problem, though.  with that one (or at least with mod_php) I have permissions issues
[22:18] <ikonia> no idea who cpanel works, I don't like those tools
[22:18] <eblume> L3top_: Unfortunately no
[22:18] <L3top_> eblume: dl live disk and apt-get install unetbootin. Use unetbootin to make bootable drive out of the thumb... change bios to boot to usb.
[22:18] <L3top_> well...
[22:18] <L3top_> lol
[22:18] <angelleye> ikonia:  well they sure make things like this easier
[22:18] <angelleye> heh
[22:18] <berevgia> @escott: yes, it says: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 20, configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[22:18] <ikonia> angelleye: make the permissions open.....then close them down to a secure level
[22:18] <ikonia> angelleye: actually, they make things a mess (cpanel and the like)
[22:19] <northernen> If I want to set an environment variables, independent of the user logging in, in which file should I set this?
[22:19] <L3top_> You have no media to possibly clone with... I don't know what you are gonna do.
[22:19] <eblume> L3top_: if I try to dd if=/live/disk of=/new/disk, and then repair the resulting /new/disk partition table, could that work?
[22:19] <berevgia> @Fyodorovna: how do I check the file format? it could be it since i used it with windows, mac and ubuntu.
[22:19] <macmartine> how do i see what's running on a particular port?
[22:19] <Jordan_U> eblume: The first thing I would do, if you haven't already, is backup any really important files.
[22:19] <eblume> Jordan_U: Definitely done.
[22:20] <Fyodorovna> berevgia, escott gave you a option, if it is a apple format that is probably the proble.
[22:20] <escott> berevgia, the next couple of lines should indicate what kernel driver attached to the device, and it should also give the device id
[22:20] <Fyodorovna> problem*
[22:20] <Jordan_U> eblume: OK. Resizing a filesystem on a dying drive is likely to cause serious problems and make recovery of existing data more difficult, are you OK with that?
[22:20] <L3top_> You are beyond my ability to give advice eblume. I do not attempt to do anything to disks I am doing from.
[22:20] <lilvaratep> I have /usr/share/vim which has addons and then leads to folders plugin, syntax, and doc, but vim73 also has plugin, doc, and syntax, and then vimcurrent folder also has the three folders... where should i put my plugins?
[22:21] <eblume> L3top_: Thanks for trying!
[22:21] <KI7MT> macele, top or for network ports sudo netstat -ntlup
[22:21] <eblume> Jordan_U: Do I need to resize the dieing drive? I'm wondering if I can just make a disk image, mount it with loop or something, and resize that?
[22:21] <KI7MT> macmartine, sir that was for you .. top or sudo netstat -ntlup
[22:21] <eblume> dying*
[22:21] <eblume> or whatever
[22:21] <berevgia> @escott: it stops after the two lines i told you, i even made tail -f, and nothing else pops up
[22:21] <Jordan_U> eblume: Where would you save the disk image to if all you have is a smaller drive?
[22:22] <eblume> Jordan_U: I also have a USB mass-storage device, which is non-bootable.
[22:22] <Jordan_U> eblume: And it is large enough to make a full copy of the drive?
[22:22] <macmartine> KI7MT: thanks. not seeing anything on that port. are there common uses for it?
[22:22] <eblume> Jordan_U: goodness yes, many dozens of times over.
[22:22] <lapion> Hello.
[22:22] <lilvaratep> I have /usr/share/vim which has addons and then leads to folders plugin, syntax, and doc, but vim73 also has plugin, doc, and syntax, and then vimcurrent folder also has the three folders... where should i put my plugins?
[22:22] <escott> berevgia, odd. the kernel is not recognizing it. one would expect the usb mass storage driver to attach to the device. if that doesn't happen you can't do anything with it
[22:22] <CFHowlett> lapion   greetings
[22:22] <macmartine> KI7MT: oh, sorry, for port 5000
[22:23] <escott> berevgia, where did you get the usb stick
[22:23] <L3top_> Jordan_U: eblume you can specify output size... one second
[22:23] <Roge152> Hi, will the beta update to the final release, or would I need to reinstall ?
[22:23] <Somelauw> Sometimes, after I clicked ubuntu in grub, the screen keeps purple. I can switch to a tty in such cases, but I can't login and there is scary text on the screen, that doesn't make sense to me.
[22:23] <eblume> L3top_: The disk image compresses to 30GB, but I am currently running a zero'ing operation to hopefully reduce that even further. There are 9GB of actual data.
[22:23] <Jordan_U> eblume: What makes this USB drive "not bootable"? If you BIOS supports booting from USB then you can easily install grub and loop boot an Ubuntu Live iso off the USB drive.
[22:23] <guss> guss
[22:23] <tr33m4n> Roge152, it should update to final
[22:24] <Roge152> K, thanks.
[22:24] <KI7MT> macmartine, Im not certain but I think 5000 is upnp but I'd have to go dig a bit.
[22:24] <eblume> Jordan_U: the USB drive contains sensitive information that I can't afford to lose by overwriting.
[22:24] <Jordan_U> eblume: No need to overwrite any files.
[22:24] <eblume> Jordan_U: could you walk me through that then?
[22:25] <berevgia> @escott: I have 3 usb sticks that I'm trying to make work: they are kingston, one i bought it, 2 from work, i've been using them before successfully.
[22:25] <Jordan_U> eblume: Yes. Are you booted into Ubuntu right now? Do you have an Ubuntu 11.10 LiveCD iso available?
[22:25] <16SAAUAWU> Jordan_U, has he configured the bios to make the USB boot first?
[22:25] <lapion> I have a macbookpro 3.1 on which I am running 11.04 ( dislike unity) however to install 11.04 I had to begin installing 9.04 and upgrade step by step to 11.04. Because somehow directyly else than
[22:25] <berevgia> @escott: i can try to reformat them? i'll google how to do it.
[22:25] <KI7MT> macmartine, try this one:  netstat -a | egrep 'Proto|LISTEN'
[22:25] <Jordan_U> 16SAAUAWU: I don't know.
[22:25] <CFHowlett> lapion   9.04 will NOT do a direct upgrade to 11.04
[22:26] <escott> berevgia, check "lsmod | grep usb_storage" i dont think you can even reformat unless they are recognized as mass storage
[22:26] <eblume> Jordan_U: Yes, I am booted on the machine I'm trying to clone. No, I don't have an 11.10 LiveCD ISO, but I do have an 11.04 LiveCD ISO. (Note that I DO NOT want to do a new install - but I think you get that.)
[22:26] <lapion> CFHowlett, thats why I upgraded it up to.
[22:26] <danniel> CFHowlett: mediubuntu didn't work... :|
[22:26] <lapion> step by step.
[22:26] <Jordan_U> eblume: 11.04 should work as well.
[22:26] <berevgia> @escott: i can read them fin with my mac, only ubuntu don't recognize them.
[22:26] <macmartine> KI7MT: still don't see anything on that port. just trying to make sure i can block it without consequences
[22:26] <danniel> maybe i need to buy a mac to see this video!.... kkkk
[22:26] <angelleye> There's gotta be some simple way to switch my sites to use CGI instead of modphp.  that's how it works on my servers with cpanel/plesk.  it has both installed, and i can easily choose on each site which module i want to use.  If i use modphp i have permissions, if i use cgi I don't.  So on my server I have both, but I don't have that nice little drop down to choose between the two for my site(s)
[22:26] <Jordan_U> eblume: Can you mount your external USB drive and tell me the mountpoint and device name?
[22:27] <CFHowlett> danniel   some .mov will not be readable.  Don't know why except that's it's an apple encoding issue
[22:27] <danniel> yes, it's the problem... tnks for help!
[22:27] <lapion> CFHowlett, because any newer version installation cd/dvd then 9.04 will not boot in 3.1 macbookpro
[22:27] <KI7MT> macmartine, if it's not being listed, then it's probably safe to "assume", there's that word, it's not being used.
[22:27] <eblume> Jordan_U: The "new" hard drive is /dev/sda (~85 GB). The "dieing" hard drive is /dev/sdb (~280 GB). The mass storage device is /dev/sdc (~2TB)
[22:27] <KBentley57> Jordan_U, have you tried the dd comman?
[22:27] <berevgia> @scott: lsmod | grep usb_storage returns nul, i tried to find only usb and no result
[22:27] <macmartine> KI7MT: thank
[22:27] <macmartine> s
[22:28] <lapion> and the upgrades will only work if I immediately install nvidia driver upon installing 9.04
[22:28] <tr33m4n> lapion, I've never had an issue, running 12.04 on MacBook 1,1...
[22:28] <Jordan_U> KBentley57: I'm not asking for support, and I don't understand your question.
[22:28] <CFHowlett> lapion   ah.  didn't know that.  you may be stuck at 11.04 or you might have better luck with xubuntu or lubuntu - both are good for lower spec older machines.
[22:28] <KBentley57> Jordan_U, Sorry, sent that to the wrong person
[22:28] <Jordan_U> KBentley57: Np :)
[22:28] <lapion> tr33m4n, this is a macbookpro 3.1
[22:28] <CFHowlett> lapion   but tr33m4n seems to have figured it out :)
[22:29] <escott> berevgia, modprobe usb_storage. is udevd running? it should be handling this for you
[22:29] <lapion> CFHowlett, mbp 3.1 is dual core very powerfull machine believe me..
[22:29] <Jordan_U> eblume: I need to know the mountpoint as well, or if it's not already mounted (and it's the first partition which you want to use) you can run "sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/".
[22:30] <L3top_> eblume: they dont call dd disk destroyer for nothing... but I think I have a solution.
[22:30] <CFHowlett> lapion   no doubt.  ask tr33m4n as my mac install experience = zero.  hackintosh only.  sorry.
[22:30] <eblume> Jordan_U: Oh, sorry, it's mounted on /bulkdata
[22:30] <tr33m4n> lapion, not seen anything to do with having to upgrade from 9.04 for macbookpro 3,1 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[22:30] <lapion> CFHowlett, the only problem I have is when booting any live disk beyond 9.04 the system freezes up with a black screen
[22:30] <eblume> L3top_:  Oh?
[22:31] <L3top_> Well... a couple really
[22:31] <berevgia> @escott: modprobe usb_storage returned 3 WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release. blacklist too.
[22:31] <tr33m4n> lapion, suggests 10.10 works perfectly pretty much
[22:31] <lapion> and my actual problem is getting the system to bootup directly into ubuntu seeing as 9.04 is not efi  aware and thus does not install efi boot..
[22:31] <tr33m4n> lapion, would also assume that later versions would do as well
[22:32] <Jordan_U> eblume: OK. Then copy the iso over to the USB drive, I personally like to keep bootable isos in a "boot-isos" directory, so if you want to as well "sudo mkdir /bulkdata/boot-isos/" then copy the iso file over (without extracting it or doing anything else).
[22:32] <tr33m4n> lapion, I would suggest downloading a more recent version, 11.10 for instance and trying that
[22:32] <lapion> now I have to use the mac-disk selection at bootup each time
[22:32] <Zaitzev> Does anyone in here use Serviio as DLNA server? I use it, but the library seems to reset every time I reboot/unmount a drive
[22:32] <eblume> Jordan_U: the ISO happens to already be stored on that drive, happily enough.
[22:32] <eblume> Jordan_U: also a compressed archive of the failing disk is also on the storage device.
[22:32] <berevgia> @escott: i see the usb flash pen drive!!!! whas it the last command i guess.....
[22:32] <lapion> tr33m4n, cough cough unity cough cough .. argh choke\
[22:33] <Jordan_U> lapion: You don't need to use Ubuntu 9.04 to get an iso without an EFI bootloader. You can use the +mac iso instead for any recent verison.
[22:33] <tr33m4n> lapion, lubuntu 11.10 then :P
[22:33] <L3top_> eblume df -h the drive and tell me how much space is in use
[22:33] <mongy> isn't 12.04 onwards a hybrid iso ?
[22:33] <lapion> 9.04 does'nt have the efi loader.. it's only reason ti will boot on mbp 3.1
[22:33] <eblume> L3top_: Which drive do you mean?
[22:33] <escott> berevgia, usb_storage is the driver that attaches to the device. i would have expected udevd to modprobe it on your behalf. not sure why it isn't
[22:34] <L3top_> source drive eblume
[22:34] <L3top_> I assume target is empty
[22:34] <Jordan_U> lapion: Read what I just said. The +mac iso (which is available for Ubuntu 11.10) does *not* have an EFI bootloader.
[22:34] <tr33m4n> lapion, you are aware that no matter what flavour of 'buntu you get you can simply install whatever desktop you wish on it? There's even a fork keeping the older version of Gnome alive
[22:34] <eblume> L3top_:  /dev/sdb1            299540080  10240964 274083348   4% /
[22:35] <eblume> L3top_: But keep in mind that there is also a roughly 7.4 GB swap partition on that drive
[22:35] <L3top_> ok... let me go over this a second on paper before I give it to you
[22:35] <Jordan_U> lapion: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.10/release/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about-the-mac-iso-image
[22:35] <eblume> Jordan_U: In any case the copying is effectively done
[22:35] <eblume> L3top_: sure thing
[22:35] <lapion> tr33m4n, I prefer gnome.. and the system is powerfull enough to handle unity and everything.. however the lack of any menustructure in the unity interface is a real showstopper for people needing more programs than the bar can show at once
[22:36] <escott> lapion, you probably don't want a straight efi boot on a mac. their version of the efi firmware is not exactly "to spec," you will probably get better results to use bootcamp
[22:36] <berevgia> @escott: thanks a lot!!!
[22:36] <Jordan_U> eblume: Well, if you already have an archive made then you don't need to boot from another drive, but you might still want to just because working from a known bad drive could cause unexpected bugs.
[22:37] <tr33m4n> escott, I am pure Ubuntu on MacBook 1,1
[22:37] <eblume> Jordan_U: fair enough - I'm willing to proceed
[22:37] <tr33m4n> escott, it does work quite well
[22:37] <escott> tr33m4n, ok. i just see lots of blog postings about how broken their efi implementation is
[22:38] <Jordan_U> eblume: Now run "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/bulkdata/boot/ /dev/sdc" (note that that is sdc, and *not* sdc1 as we need grub's boot sector in the mbr).
[22:38] <tr33m4n> escott, oh no doubt :P but it's still doable
[22:39] <tr33m4n> lapion, I'd suggest installing Ubuntu 11.10 then simply install the desktop you want... You can even remove Unity.
[22:39] <L3top_> eblume: I have a few ideas now... I dont know which is best... now I read your drive is damaged?
[22:40] <lapion> tr33m4n, have looked into that however, the backports are even buggier then unity
[22:40] <L3top_> idea 1: make partitions on target drive, debootstrap that drive, chroot into that drive install grub, so we have a clean drive to work from...
[22:40] <Fyodorovna> tr33m4n, removing unity is not advised.
[22:41] <KI7MT> It's OT i know, but I really hope they keep a classic desktop version of gnome alive, Unity is gonna be trouble for allot of us.
[22:41] <eblume> Jordan_U: just to be clear, there is no /bulkdata/boot. That's OK?
[22:41] <Jordan_U> L3top_: We're basically doing that now, except we're going to be loop booting an Ubuntu 11.04 iso from a known good external USB drive.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> eblume: Yes. It will be created.
[22:42] <L3top_> I thought we had no usb drive
[22:42] <eblume> Jordan_U: and also to be clear, when I say there is an archive on /dev/sdc, it's a compressed (gzip) dd image
[22:42] <L3top_> I clearly asked about that... lol
[22:42] <Jordan_U> eblume: Yes, we'd need to decompress it to resizse it, but it sounds like you have the space to do that.
[22:42] <L3top_> that would fix everything
[22:43] <L3top_> to heck with all that... if we have a thumbdrive, clonezilla, unetbootin and be done with it
[22:43] <eblume> Jordan_U: L3top_ : Sorry, I want to back up a second. This USB drive contains extremely sensitive data, I really don't want to mess with its MBR
[22:43] <eblume> Jordan_U: L3top_: Like, if I lose the USB drive, I'll lose my job.
[22:43] <tr33m4n> lapion, well, at the risk of being told off by admins, maybe Ubuntu is not the distro for you?
[22:43] <L3top_> missed that
[22:43] <L3top_> sorry
[22:43] <kevin> hi all. say you are using find -exec, and the commandline you exec creates new files in the directory. will 'find' report on those new files?
[22:43] <eblume> L3top_: no prob
[22:44] <eblume> Jordan_U: can we still proceed or will that grub-install command be dangerous?
[22:44] <L3top_> I would go buy a 6 dollar thumb from walmart before I blew up the drive I was trying to save.
[22:44] <L3top_> thats just me
[22:44] <L3top_> I will drop out now
[22:44] <droid-0854> L3top, clonezilla to unetbootin can you tell me more about that?
[22:44] <Jordan_U> eblume: grub-install is not dangerous. It will only change the boot code, leaving the partition table intact.
[22:45] <eblume> Yeah I figured I can do that too, I was just hoping there was a way to very simply clone over a image from one disk to another without having to go buy a thumb drive
[22:46] <Fyodorovna> eblume, you can copy paste with gparted, if bothare shown on it.
[22:46] <L3top_> droid-0854: download clonezilla iso, apt-get install unetbootin... run unetbootin and use the clonezilla iso. It will turn your thumbdrive into a clonezilla dvd, basically, and you boot to it, clone your drive/partition to another drive, or image, or
[22:46] <lapion> tr33m4n, I am hoping eventually MS will realize that it's the   that solve most problems, and most geeks I know of ( even our great LT ) ran away from ubuntu after unity.
[22:46] <L3top_> droid-0854: can backup to hard media, nfs, samba, ftp... whatever.
[22:46] <eblume> Fyodorovna: I was trying to do that earlier but saw no easy copy/paste across drives, just for two partitions on the same drive
[22:46] <L3top_> is very nice
[22:47] <eblume> Jordan_U: I'm going to do a bit more research before I proceed. It's not quite as bad as I made it out to be (the absolutely job-critical files are also backed up 'on the cloud') but I was hoping for something a bit simpler. If I really need to do all of that I'll just go buy a thumb drive somewhere.
[22:47] <eblume> Jordan_U: thanks though
[22:47] <Fyodorovna> eblume, has to be a equal size or larger paste I believe, uyou might be right though if one is a dropdown other dive.
[22:47] <Fyodorovna> drive*
[22:47] <lapion> tr33m4n, probably 11.04 will become ubuntu's "XP" no vista/7 or 8 for a
[22:48] <eblume> It seems like there should be a way to modify the partition table and size of a disk image
[22:48] <lapion> just talking in metaphores
[22:48] <KI7MT> Indeed, it's gonna eb rough
[22:48] <Jordan_U> eblume: You could also use unetbootin, and there are other options like installing grub's boot sector (and even the iso itself) to the other internal drive. But then you have some other things which might trip you up when trying to work with a drive you booted from (it's possible, but I'm not aware of any guides for doing it).
[22:49] <Jordan_U> eblume: You can do the resizing from your current Ubuntu system if you trust it enough.
[22:49] <tr33m4n> lapion, personally I like Unity. I'm running 12.04 atm and I'm enjoying the new HUD (kind of like a quick search for everything). If you are going to have any version install lower than 11.10 I'd say 10.04 if you havn't already
[22:49] <droid-0854> L3top:  clone spits out an iso will /etc or /sys contain errors one diffrent machines or just use dd and clean up?
[22:49] <Jordan_U> eblume: Unfortunately I need to leave now, good luck.
[22:49] <eblume> Jordan_U: thanks for the help!
[22:50] <Jordan_U> eblume: You're welcome :)
[22:50] <eblume> And for the record, since I have that whole-disk backup, I'm totally fine with using the current install
[22:50] <lapion> tr33m4n, I am planning on running 12.04 in VM to check out the hud
[22:50] <runelind> could someone please help me recover my ubuntu server?  I upgraded to 11.04 and I think I got grub messed up since it just dumps me to a grub prompt.  I am using lvm and I'm booted into a recovery shell.
[22:51] <tr33m4n> lapion, cool, you might find you can survive without traditional menus... I figured it out, even initially not liking the idea, but now I think it's ace
[22:52] <mongy> lapion: you can use ubuntu 12.04 base and whatever desktop you wish.  You are not stuck with unity.
[22:52] <lapion> I allways had the icon sidebar.. simply by installing a panel and putting all apps and start buttons over there , it's only the concept of having to search for everything else.. just
[22:53] <tr33m4n> lapion, you are aware that you can access all programs from unity even in the early versions without adding them to the launcher? you don't have to put every app in the launcher, it's just for popular ones you use often :p
[22:53] <Fyodorovna> lapion, hehe wait till it is just hud.
[22:53] <lapion> stiflles creativity and lowers productivityby having to waste brain cycles to think of how to search for what I need..
[22:53] <droid-0854> If clonezilla spits out an iso will /etc or /sys contain errors one diffrent machines or just use dd and clean up?
[22:54] <droid-0854> On*
[22:54] <Fyodorovna> droid-0854, clonezilla does not spit out ISO's
[22:54] <lapion> tr33m4n, I really do not want to have to visually search in a sea of icon's to hope that I find the only I was looking for
[22:54] <droid-0854> (Fyodorovna) droid
[22:54] <L3top_> droid-0854: if you want an iso try remastersys
[22:55] <droid-0854>  ty fy
[22:55] <lotus-blade> I want to try the beta, but when i do the upgrade I am getting an error
[22:55] <lotus-blade> any place I can get the iso of find anouther way to updgrade?
[22:55] <tr33m4n> lapion, fair enough... But as it stands you are sacrificing system stability, reliability and performance by not running a recent distro.
[22:55] <L3top_> thanked and effed in the same line.... Im not sure how I feel about that
[22:55] <droid-0854>  ty fy
[22:55] <Fyodorovna> lotus-blade, not until releasev to be safe really, what error are you getting.
[22:55] <filo1234> Fyodorovna: clonezilla makes iso too
[22:55] <Fyodorovna> filo1234, never seen that option may be there.
[22:56] <KI7MT> lotus-blade, #ubuntu+1 is best place for beta questions, it's not stable and there's lots of thigns there working out still, assuming your referring to 12.04 beta.
[22:56] <filo1234> Fyodorovna: it does :)
[22:56] <faissal> hi guys, got an issue here : I got 2 volume icons, one in the notification area, the other one in the applet called 'indicator applet complete'. i want to keep the one on the 'indicator applet complete' because it has direct access to rythmbox's next and previous songs, etc.. whereas the one in the notification area is useless and ugly. i want to remove it. any ideas on how i can do that please ? running ubuntu 11.10 gnome classic, thanks !!!!
[22:56] <droid-0854> So it might work
[22:56] <L3top_> eblume: I didn't think about that before... but... you could try remastersys as well... it will turn your setup into an iso
[22:56] <lotus-blade> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[22:56] <lotus-blade> E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[22:57] <L3top_> at only 10gb I expect squashfs would get it to an appropriate size
[22:57] <eblume> L3top_: if there's no easy way to do it I'll just grab a thumbdrive from the local quickmart and burn in a boot ISO and do it that way :)
[22:58] <eblume> L3top_: right now I'm persuing mounting a disk image as a loop device and running gparted on it
[22:58] <Fyodorovna> filo1234, a recovery ISO I see.
[22:58] <L3top_> eblume... remastersys is pretty simple... just have to add a repo, download and run the program... there is even a gui... then you can loop mount the iso and install it to your other drive
[22:58] <Fyodorovna> not sure it is a full ISO of the backup
[22:59] <filo1234> Fyodorovna: yeah, you have to restart clonezilla after disk/part clone, and choose iso
[22:59] <L3top_> eblume: however if this drive is problematic, the less installing and manipulating you do, the better
[22:59] <eblume> L3top_: I'll give it a look, thanks!
[22:59] <L3top_> eblume: so certainly your best option is a thumb
[22:59] <trism> faissal: the other one is started by /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-sound-applet.desktop, if you copy that file to ~/.config/autostart/gnome-sound-applet.desktop and remove the NoDisplay=true line, you can configure whether it starts or not in gnome-session-properties
[23:00] <faissal> trism:  sounds good, i'll try that right now
[23:00] <lapion> tr33m4n,  the concept of the unity icon system is like heading back to 1993 and getting a NEXT, and the forest of icons in  in the all-apps unity windows is like heading back to the likes of windows 1.0-3.11, so I do not understand how unity is progress
[23:01] <L3top_> eblume: Don't forget, a spare hard drive sitting around will work too
[23:01] <tr33m4n> lapion, well it works for me :)
[23:01] <Fyodorovna> lapion, a continued bias posting style helps no one.
[23:01] <filo1234> Fyodorovna: if you make a full HD backup you'll have a full ISO, so btw it has a 4GB limit
[23:01] <Fyodorovna> lapion, especially yourself. :)
[23:02] <tr33m4n> Fyodorovna, :p
[23:02] <jonnybbad> i have a problem with ubuntu it seems to be having bluetooth problems it freezes, it wont pair with my headphones, any of the adapters ive tried are hit and miss if they will even find anything can someone help me?
[23:03] <lapion> Fyodorovna, I really liked the next desktop environment however the next offered a menustructure as well as the icon-bar..
[23:03] <lapion> and everything was configurable.. what if I like my menubar to the right.. top bottom or elsewhere
[23:04] <Fyodorovna> lapion, honestly none of us care what you like this is support.
[23:04] <lapion> I mean iconbar
[23:04] <lapion> ok
[23:04] <Fyodorovna> lapion, #ubuntu-offtopic is for that.
[23:04] <KI7MT> I care, it's just a matter of mow much I care :-)
[23:06] <jonnybbad> if someone can help me please pm me as its really hard to read/see in this webclient
[23:07] <j0bi> does anybody know how to install latest murrine engine 0.98 in ubuntu 10.04???
[23:09] <faissal> trism: thanks a million, it worked. I have the same problem with the battery indicator, but i cannot find any file related to it in /etc/xdg/autostart. do you have an idea please ?
[23:10] <j0bi> does anybody know how to install latest murrine engine 0.98 in ubuntu 10.04?
[23:11] <xangua> !latest | j0bi
[23:11] <trism> faissal: unfortunately that is started by gnome-settings-daemon, it has extra code so it doesn't display when in unity, but otherwise it is hardcoded to display, so not much you can do about it
[23:11] <faissal> trism: thanks !
[23:12] <jeregon> hello
[23:12] <jonnybbad> really if someone is trying to help me i really cant tell unless you pm me i know its not standard but i cant see it any other way
[23:12] <tr33m4n> j0bi, have a look here http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/murrine_daily ... It's a ppa containing murrine daily build
[23:12] <jeregon> jonnybbad: what do you need?
[23:12] <jonnybbad> i have a problem with ubuntu it seems to be having bluetooth problems it freezes, it wont pair with my headphones, any of the adapters ive tried are hit and miss if they will even find anything can someone help me?
[23:12] <theTroy> could someone suggest where can I get tokens for apparmor? (i.e. allow deny owner etc)
[23:16] <Gaming4JC> Anyone know where I can get experimental Messa packages for natty? :) (8.0.1+ preferred!)
[23:17] <Daekdroom> Gaming4JC, https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[23:17] <j0bi> does anybody know how to install murrine engine 0.98 in ubuntu 10.04???
[23:17] <Daekdroom> Gaming4JC, but you have to use all the packages from there.
[23:17] <tr33m4n> Gaming4JC, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/xorg-edgers
[23:18] <Gaming4JC>  Daekdroom: Thanks! How would I go about forcing my system to use them 'all'? :/
[23:18] <Daekdroom> Gaming4JC, add the repository ;)
[23:18] <Daekdroom> What I meant is that you should not download the mesa packages separately.
[23:18] <Gorkyman> whats the shortcut to switch between windows in one workspace ?
[23:18] <Gaming4JC> ok :)
[23:18] <Gaming4JC> thnx :D
[23:19] <tr33m4n> Gaming4JC, do you know how to add an apt repository?
[23:19] <faissal> hi guys, i got another question about the notification icon, i installed parcellite, the little clipboard utility, its really nice. however, the icon in the notification area is freaking ugly, does not match with my theme at all and it sucks big time. any idea how i can change it. i mean this icon must be stored somewhere thats for sure, and i was wondering if i could simply replace this icon by the one i want ? any ideas guys ? thanks .
[23:19] <faissal> (ubuntu 11.10 gnome classic)
[23:19] <FloodBot1> faissal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:20] <faissal> sorry FloodBot, i didnt mean to !
[23:20] <Gaming4JC>  tr33m4n: yes I've used wine's ppa for some time. Thanks tho :)
[23:20] <Daekdroom> faissal, it's a bot.
[23:20] <tr33m4n> Gaming4JC, good, just making sure :) you never know what some people have done before or not
[23:20] <faissal> Daekdroom: i figured so, just kidding
[23:23] <Gorkyman> is there a shortcut to quickly switch between windows in one workspace?
[23:24] <soreau> Gorkyman: Alt+Tab?
[23:24] <che687> lol
[23:24] <Gorkyman> soreau: alt+tab is slow
[23:24] <vuxor> yeah
[23:24] <User_007> Hello, i am trying to compile something, and i found that it require gtk+3 to compile. What is the package name for this lib?
[23:25] <northernen> What is the problem when I've all of a sudden have had my sudo rights revoked?
[23:25] <soreau> User_007: Possibly libgtk-3-dev
[23:25] <che687> northernen: not sure how that could happen
[23:25] <User_007> thanks
[23:26] <jeregon> hello can any one help me with ssh?
[23:26] <soreau> ! ssh | jeregon
[23:27] <pythonsnake> Hi.
[23:27] <tr33m4n> jeregon, what problems are you having?
[23:27] <escott> northernen, the most common mistake ive seen is someone running usermod -G without using -a
[23:27] <che687> any one know of a kiosk style web login script for an intranet?
[23:27] <jeregon> tr33m4n: well i can connect but i whant to connec to it remotelly
[23:27] <jeregon> tr33m4n: :)
[23:28] <pythonsnake> What's Ubuntu 11.10's kernel version?
[23:28] <deww> 3.0.0-16-generic
[23:28] <tr33m4n> jeregon, so your connecting to the ssh server from the same machine the server is running on, so you know it works, however you want to connect remotely?
[23:28] <northernen> escott, right. Precisely I did...
[23:28] <pythonsnake> Thanks.
[23:30] <che687> jeregon: ssh -l 'username' x.x.x.x
[23:30] <jeregon> che687: what will that do?
[23:31] <tr33m4n> jeregon, are you connecting to the ssh server from the same machine?
[23:31] <jeregon> tr33m4n: i can connec to it in the same network but not out side the network its in
[23:31] <che687> if you are connecting remotely you may be trying to log in under a different username than is allowed privs
[23:31] <tr33m4n> ah right
[23:31] <jeregon> tr33m4n:  no
[23:31] <jeregon> tr33m4n: from my laptop
[23:31] <tr33m4n> jeregon, ah right... well you need to make sure that the correct port is open on your router/firewall
[23:31] <pythonsnake> What's the default music player?
[23:31] <jeregon> tr33m4n: ok
[23:32] <jeregon> tr33m4n: give me a sec :)
[23:32] <tr33m4n> jeregon, then you should be able to connect via your IP or hostname depending on your DNS etc
[23:32] <cracka> can someone msg me im testing libnotify and want to see if its functioning properly
[23:33] <jeregon> tr33m4n: how do i setup dns on the server?
[23:34] <tr33m4n> jeregon, that's a very large question, I'd suggest Googling for specific tutorials
[23:34] <che687> jergon: you would have to set a full fledge bind9 or eqiv... just put your ip/host address translations in /ect/hosts
[23:35] <jeregon> tr33m4n: all i want is to set an address to my server and connect to it persay in the librery
[23:36] <che687> jeregon ... just put your address/host translations in /etc/hosts file
[23:37] <jeregon> che687: ok now that im in it how do i go about doing so
[23:37] <tr33m4n> jeregon, if you have a domain name hosted by someone, simply add an A record to the DNS settings provided by them pointing to your IP address
[23:37] <jeregon> che687: im new to this so help is very valued
[23:38] <joebodo> jeregon: on your router - port forward 22 to you home computer's ip. On your home computer, google "what's my ip". Write it down. On you laptop, do ssh yourlogin@theipyouwrotedown
[23:39] <tr33m4n> jeregon, however if you have a dynamic ip you will have to sign up for a service like DynDNS, otherwise you'll have to keep writing down your ip everytime the connection refreshes
[23:39] <User_007> soreau, i got this error, do you have a clue? :/usr/local/share/glib-2.0/schemas
[23:39] <User_007> file not found
[23:39] <che687> jeregon: lets start from begining... are both of your machines in the same building?
[23:48] <User_007> nevermind, i already solved stuff here. Thanks!
[23:51] <Boreeas> I have this weird issue that in the middle of the screen, there is an (invisible) area in which my cursor simply disappears
[23:51] <mrFrog> I've got a dedicated server with 5 "usable" ip addresses. However, when I'm setting up nginx, I can't get it to listen on any of them except the first one. Am I supposed to do any special set up like in /etc/hosts or something to make all 5 ip addresses work? 
[23:51] <Boreeas> It still works, I can still click stuff, but I don't see it anymore.
[23:51] <Boreeas> Does anyone know why that happens?
[23:52] <popey> Boreeas: it sounds like a splash screen for a java app
[23:52] <Boreeas> Hmm
[23:52] <popey> Boreeas: probably some app is still running but borked in the background
[23:55] <BlouBlou> hey, is there any "what is now playing" script quassel/amarok?
[23:56] <rexor> mrFrog, virtualhost working only on one ip ?
[23:57] <mrFrog> rexor: right, i can only listen on one ip
[23:57] <berevgia> how should the file /etc/network/interfaces look like?
[23:57] <rexor> mrFrog, I mean that u have configurated only one site in ngix witch is working only at first ip
[23:58] <rexor> maybe.
[23:59] <mrFrog> rexor: right, i've got two "server block configurations", each supposed to be listening on different ip addresses. but only the first one actually works. i'm reading about the "interfaces" file right now, seeing if i'm supposed to configure something to get multiple ips working
[23:59] <rpg32> any sql gurus out there?